1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Easter twelve, two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching apps car. Hey, what up with 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: your Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Hope your life 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: is great, your day is good, Your weather's a little 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: bit warmer than what we got. This's Doug Gottlieb Show, 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. You guys are gonna appreciate this one. 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: Last year, we played in Santa Barbara. Santa Barbara comes 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: to our place here in fourteen days. So I filmed 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: a little digital ad for the game. And right now 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: it's not terribly cold. I mean, if you're in Santa 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: Barbara when it's twenty six and it feels like thirteen, 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: that's really really cold. But it's not as cold as 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna be. But we had some fun with it. 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: We had some fun with it, welcoming in Joe Pasternak 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: and his crew to the frozen Tundra with our special 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: brand of weather. Tomorrow morning, Jay Stu, when I wake 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: up two degrees. 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: Two degrees, that's awesome. And I love the fact that 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: you're playing the Big West. I've been to the thunder 24 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: Dome men in times, watched the Galagos, including last year 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: when Sam ordered at least three hot dogs and the 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: half that he was there. Yes, he showed up at halftime. 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: No, I got there during the first half. I think 28 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: I missed. I mean I think I missed like seven 29 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: minutes of the of the half, but I did have 30 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: probably three or four hot dogs. 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: Actually, Jay s dou, I actually have big news for. 32 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 4: You and marchronizing the place, big. 33 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: Bigness to you in Mark time, I believe we have agree. 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: We haven't gotten a date yet. I think we're coming 35 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: to play Cal State Forwards the next year. No, Ken, Yeah, 36 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: Titan Jim, I've played. I've played at Titan Jim, Titan 37 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: Jim and the Brand Events Center. I think I played 38 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: a Titan Jim more because we used to play pick 39 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: a basketball there all the time, all the time, all 40 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: the time. So pretty fired up that I not not 41 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: officially official, but unofficially official, but I expect you and 42 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: Mark Stein to be court side. 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: But that's my I'll bring the Walker brothers to nice 44 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: their buddies of one. Yeah, no, I'll have a bunch 45 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: of people. I need a lot of tickets. 46 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: Well, one of the Walkers, this son plays it at Auburn. 47 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: So Kevin Son plays it plays at Auburn anyway. 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End of this show, which is the end 58 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: of this hour. You can just download the podcast. It'll 59 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: be live at the top the hour. So middle of 60 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: the show, middle of the day, middle of the week. 61 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: Let's get to the midway. He's not getting the middle 62 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: with you. 63 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 5: It's time for the midway. 64 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: Hi, Jay Stu, what's the topic. 65 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 6: I'll take it from here. 66 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 4: You take it from here. 67 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: The uh, it looks like the consensus on the group 68 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: text was this, we're gonna uh, we're gonna recap post 69 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: mortem the regular season of college football. Now the jumping 70 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: off point, I'd like to do kind of a flashback. 71 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: The Wednesday, midway before the start of the regular season, 72 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: we did our one storyline we are most intrigued by 73 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: going into the season. I'm gonna give you those four 74 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: and you guys could choose in this in the next 75 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: ten minutes to talk about those things that maybe you 76 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: had brought to the table, or you could just choose 77 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 2: another thing. I just want to know you're you're kind 78 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: of like a big takeaway storyline from the season that 79 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: you enjoyed following the most or were most surprised by. 80 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: So here it was our four stories coming into the 81 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: season that we were most intrigued by. Was will Dion 82 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: Sanders after losing his son lose interest in and it 83 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: won't have a good season? That turned out that way? 84 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 6: Uh? Bill Belichick? 85 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: Who was that? Who was that? By the way? 86 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 6: That was that was mine? 87 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 7: That was mine? 88 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 6: Bill Belichick? What kind of the season is he going 89 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 6: to have? That didn't turn out too well? 90 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 2: Arch Manning. I forgot who brought that to the table, 91 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: Arch Manning, is he going to live up to the 92 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: hype that didn't work out too well? And then Caitlin 93 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 2: de boor, is he going to be the next Mike 94 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: Shula or the next next Saban? 95 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 4: I think that was yours, Dougie. I think you. 96 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: I feel like Kalyn Devor was your guy. I don't 97 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: remember what mine was. 98 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: Everybody wanted him fired after week one. Then he was 99 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: the guy. Then he was the guy. Now there are 100 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: people that think that if he loses Saturday, they'll go 101 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: take the Penn stage job. 102 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 7: The North Carolina story was so much of a train 103 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 7: wreck that it wasn't even a like a nice train wreck, 104 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 7: Like it was just such a mess, right. 105 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: Just wasn't aware of a nice train wreck ever before. 106 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. 107 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 3: I know what you mean, like fugitive train wreck, like 108 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: where like the cars were just scattered all over what he's. 109 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: Saying, like it wasn't it wasn't even fun. It got 110 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: it got to the punt where like this is not 111 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: even fun. 112 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, just ridiculous. He thought that there would be something 113 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 7: of standards of commitment, and it was just a circus 114 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 7: all season long. 115 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: Well, I would, I would I agree with you, Dan, 116 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: I would also say that we really don't know the 117 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: level of dysfunction. I think, me just being honest, I 118 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: think what was reported by what's his name does all 119 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: the investigative journalism based for the entire industry was what 120 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: was reported by Pablo was so damaging that everything became 121 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: every game everything became about that, right, And and basically 122 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: Pablo is like, he might not even make it to 123 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: the season. It's such a disaster. And he was right, 124 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: it was a disaster. I don't know if he's writ 125 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: in terms of what was actually going on behind the scenes. 126 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: Again he hasn't missed yet. But again, this was this 127 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: was just this was without receipts. We don't know. And 128 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: I can also tell you that yet and you're holding 129 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: a guide to the standard that we're used to with 130 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: him as an NFL coach is sort of ridiculous when 131 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: you're a college coach. And I did say, when you 132 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: got seventy new players, you're not going to win. You're 133 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: just not, especially when you never coached college football before. 134 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: Just it's so hard now year two, year three, there 135 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: has to be has to be improvement, and I would 136 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: guess there will be, but I I agree with you, Dan, 137 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: it was not even fun. I did see a lot 138 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: of myself in what was going on there where the 139 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: reality is they just didn't have good at players. 140 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, well you didn't have Jordan Hudson interfering in everything. 141 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 7: And there's another there's another aspect of this because we 142 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 7: look at Belichick, and we look at Belichick's assistant and 143 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 7: look at what Matt Patricia did at Ohio State. So 144 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 7: Matt Patricia failed as an NFL head coach and then 145 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 7: failed in his return to New England in coaching the 146 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 7: offense and coaching the quarterbacks, and Bill Belichick failed at 147 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 7: North Carolina. And while Ohio State does have great talent, 148 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 7: they did have to replace a lot of talent on defense, 149 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 7: and they became even better on defense with Matt Patricia 150 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 7: leading it, which maybe isn't a surprise when we say, well, 151 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 7: of course he learned from Bill Belichick, but that also 152 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 7: then tells you how dysfunctional things have gotten around Belichick 153 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 7: that he can't even rely on his defense or the 154 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 7: stuff that he knows. I get worked for Matt Patricia 155 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 7: and it was a complete mess in Chapel Hill fair 156 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 7: fair point. 157 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: Did we think though, in terms of wins and losses, 158 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: that it would be kind of around five and seven, 159 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: four and eight. 160 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 4: They finished four. 161 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 7: I don't think we knew. I don't think we had 162 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 7: any idea, right, I mean, I. 163 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 4: Didn't think they'd go bold. I really didn't know much 164 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 4: about the personnel. I just felt like it would just 165 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: be a season though. Where there I. 166 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 7: Think any of the start we knew about North Carolina football. 167 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 7: I think we're fooling ourselves. And I think that we 168 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 7: thought that, well, maybe Belichick fresh start. Heck, he knows 169 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 7: more about football than anybody. He'll be able to win 170 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 7: them the five six or seven games. And I don't 171 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 7: even think it got to the point of that where 172 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 7: it didn't matter if he could be a mastermind and school. 173 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 7: Some of these college head coaches. 174 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: Ended on a free game losing streak, including a bad 175 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: loss at NC State. 176 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they also they had probably two games they 177 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: should have won. Was the Cow game, I think, which 178 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: was one. 179 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, they lost by three to Cal too. 180 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: That they should have won their late as well. And 181 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: I think that the one topic we missed on that 182 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: we didn't know is I mean, I thought that Jim O. 183 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: Fisher would be the total outlier where guys get bought 184 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: out with these ridiculous sums of money. I didn't realize 185 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: it would be the norm. And this was the year 186 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: where half the SEC was fired and half of the 187 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: coaches that were fired were fired before the midway point 188 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: in the season. Complete change. This is not what college 189 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: football has ever looked like before. And just so people understand, 190 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: the next thing that's coming is players are going to 191 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: get fired early in the season. You want to make 192 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: the employees they're fireable, they'll get fired. 193 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 7: How many guess how many coaches got new extensions because 194 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 7: of what happened at Penn State, right, I mean. 195 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: That also happens anytime the Kentucky job gets up in basketball. 196 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: Everybody says they're a candidate for the job, they get it. 197 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't think it was just Penn State though, Dan 198 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: to be you know, right, like all these jobs being open, 199 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: everybody got an extension. But yeah, Penn State obviously got 200 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: Matt Rule an extension. And then the second said, like, ed, 201 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: do we really want Matt Rule? Like I don't know, 202 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. 203 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: And Penn State's been a story all year from what 204 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: being a top three team yep, and then getting to 205 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: the Oregon game, losing in overtime, and then the Law 206 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: and then James and now they finished six and six, 207 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: They're going to a bowl with the interim coach. It's 208 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 3: just been like if you woke up from a long 209 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: slumber or a coma and you looked at Penn State 210 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 3: starting as a top three team to finishing six and 211 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: six with an interim coach, You'd be like, what did 212 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: I miss? 213 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 4: Well, it's crazy. 214 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: What's amazing about it is I think Dan, you, me 215 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: and Sam could probably just vamp on really good games 216 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: this year. Georgia Tennessee was amazing. Early in the year, 217 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: Alabama Georgia was incredible. Alabama Auburn was really good. This 218 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: past weekend Oregon Indiana was a very good football game. 219 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: Texas Ohio State not that great. Texas comeback against Mississippi 220 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: State was incredible. A and M. Notre Dame A and 221 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: M Texas all great games. 222 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 4: Notre Dame Miami is a good game too. 223 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: Notre Dame Miami was a good game, especially the year right. 224 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: But I and Dan, this maybe is more for you 225 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: because you have more historical knowledge of it. I feel like, 226 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: because of the college football Playoff, what's the real memorable 227 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: game for the year, Like, I don't know where he 228 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: is the one, because none of them seem that big, 229 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: because though they matter, don't totally matter as much as 230 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: they used to matter. And so you don't freak out 231 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: after a game you're like, well that team season is over, 232 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: because it's almost like it's kind of never over until 233 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: it's over. 234 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 7: I'll tell you the game, and it didn't come down 235 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 7: to the wire, but it's I think that the coaching 236 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 7: carousel is the number one story of this past season. 237 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 7: I agree, I think, and I think that's a negative story. 238 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 7: I think the positive story. I'm going to say this, 239 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 7: I think if we're looking at positives, Indiana saved college football. 240 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 7: Indiana Indiana when you look at these show and they 241 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 7: may be there for the next eight years, but right 242 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 7: now they are still new to the party after being 243 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 7: in the playoff last year, even better this year to 244 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 7: see the growth of the team and the program and 245 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 7: for them to be the look at the brands. I mean, 246 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 7: even like Texas Tech is still new to the party. 247 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 7: But there's just something about Indiana being twelve and zero 248 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 7: where I actually think Saturday's game is more important to 249 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 7: Indiana than outside of a national championship. A winning team 250 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 7: like to be able to show like we are now 251 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 7: the king of the Big Ten Conference. If they were 252 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 7: to beat Ohio State, I think it means way more 253 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 7: to Indiana than it does Ohio State this Saturday. But 254 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 7: I think that Indiana has been that beacon in college 255 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 7: football when there's just been a lot of negativity with 256 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 7: the coaching firings. It's the same old, same old. It's 257 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 7: the sec plug in this team here, this team there 258 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 7: probably could have been old Miss if link Giffin didn't leave, 259 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 7: but he's part of that coaching carousel conversation. So I 260 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 7: think that Indiana has been this this beacon. Vanderbilt as 261 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 7: well in Diego Pavia and his mom, I think you've 262 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 7: been positive for college. 263 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 4: Football, but they're a negative. 264 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 7: But Indiana, to me, he's been the beacon. 265 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this is a more of a minor story. 266 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 7: But so. 267 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean Clemson being just average, Clemson, Florida State, and 268 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. Right where Virginia Tech fires their coach. Florida 269 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: State came close, but they're like, yeah, we'll give them 270 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: another year and Clemson. It's just too expensive to fire 271 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: Dabos Sweeney. It's crazy. Those are hit three historically significant, 272 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: big time college faball programs who are all at best 273 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: mediocre at best, and when you consider how the season 274 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: started for Floor's date, that's a stunner. 275 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 7: There were also people who said that Clemson had the 276 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 7: best talent in all of college football to start the year. 277 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 4: They're seven and five, right. 278 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: Seven five? At least they're not six and seven six 279 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: seven seven. Sorry, I just want to believe you, guys. 280 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: I just Jason Stewart wants to murder me right now. 281 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 4: I was random side. 282 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: Out and some people have browns for murder with that. 283 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: I was watching Iowa Michigan State last night. It was 284 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: Paul Burmeister and Nick ba on the broadcast, and one 285 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: point one of them did say six to seven, and 286 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: neither of them reacted to it, and I was like, 287 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: thank you, guys, thank you for moving past this. 288 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 4: They could have, they didn't. Hats off to them. 289 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any positive in this. So 290 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: as a casual football fan, I just looked up the 291 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: odds for the Heisman and I I mean I I 292 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: vaguely know these names from the season. 293 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't tell you who who's going to Heisman. 294 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: I honestly am uh you would think that if if 295 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: I'm aware of just by consuming, you know, superficial knowledge 296 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: of college football and watching highlights, I would remember like 297 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: a standout play that was like a signature moment from 298 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: a player among this list. 299 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 6: I mean, you guys are familiar. 300 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: With Julian saying, uh, Diego Pavia, Fernando Mendoza. I there's 301 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: no like signature, like uh, what's his face? From Michigan 302 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: in the nineties, had that one signature play? You'll never 303 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: forget it. I just don't. I don't see any of that. 304 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: In this what's his face? You mean Desmond Howard. 305 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 6: Or Charles Woodson for that matter. 306 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: Was it Desmon Howard striking the heisman post? 307 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 7: Yes? 308 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: It was, yeah, yeah, yeah, No. The Heisman has become 309 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: whatever it really has, And I again, I think so 310 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: much of it is because of the playoff with all 311 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: what about that play? What about the play Mendoza made 312 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: when they beat was a Penn State Are you like, 313 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: does it matter that much? Whereas when you do it 314 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: for a national championship, like, oh, do you remember that play? 315 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: So what's gonna happen. They're gonna move the They're gonna 316 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: move the voting for the ward after the playoff, and 317 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: nothing that happens in the regular season is gonna. 318 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 7: Matter at all. Honestly, Penn State Oregon may have been 319 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 7: game of the Year of the year, yeah, fir, but 320 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 7: then it falls apart. I think that the Heisman has 321 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 7: decided Saturday in the Big Ten title game. 322 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: I think that if between those two, yeah. 323 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 7: I think if if Mendoza shines, then it's his for Indiana, 324 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 7: and if Ohio State roles with saying doing his, I 325 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 7: think it's gonna be Sayans. 326 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 6: And one of those guys the top overall pick is 327 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 6: also the rumor. 328 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 7: Well saying can't go to the pros yet, so he'll 329 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 7: be back next year. 330 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: So I don't think Mendoz is that guy, but I 331 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: could be wrong. The interesting about Mendoza is Mendoza was 332 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: the guy at Cal last year when they beat Stanford 333 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: who was getting all emotional talking about his brothers at 334 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: Cal and at the brotherhood whatever. Like he was like, man, 335 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: this has means so much the brotherhood here, Like, hey, 336 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: you want to come to Indiana play for NASA championship. Yeah, 337 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm good. Yeah, sure, yeah, brothers can be a different locations, right. 338 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 3: I'd like to throw out one more topic here more 339 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: so uh after the fact here Oklahoma from where they 340 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 3: went last year, this year, what they I think eight 341 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 3: and five they finished seventy five with brand ventables and 342 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 3: now ten and two, and they did it with defense, 343 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: they did it with Mateer's magic. A lot of those 344 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 3: wins were ugly, but. 345 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: Matier wasn't Matier after he got it right, was just 346 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: not what it was? 347 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: Just whatever, right, But they may just they've churned out 348 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: wins and and they're they're They're back, They're back. 349 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 7: That's probably the biggest what if for them. If he 350 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 7: doesn't break his hand then because he was not good 351 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 7: against Texas and rushing back for that. 352 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: Game, No, nope, nope, And that is the Midway, the Midway. 353 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 354 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 355 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 5: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 356 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 5: listen live. 357 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: Optimist Optimist Climb. That's a great name, Optimist Climb. 358 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 7: Your nickname recall is great. 359 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: By the way, nicknames work for me, right, I feel like, 360 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like George George W. Bush. You know, 361 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: I just give everybody nicknames that don't actually make sense. 362 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: Do you guys remember that? He's like, hey, shorty, shorty, skinny, chubby. 363 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: He just start to name it because he can't remember 364 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: his dude's names. I do remember Josh Page's name. That's 365 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: because he's synonymous with college football. He's kind of to 366 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: spend some time with us, as he has periodically throughout 367 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: the year. You see him everywhere on three, ESPN, Yahoo Sports. Course, 368 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: Colherd heard him on my show. He's like, I gotta 369 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: have that guy on because he's a studt Josh Pai 370 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: Joy just here on the Doug Gottlieb Show. You are 371 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: known for paid state Penn State still looking for a coach, Like, 372 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: what the hell is going on that nobody wants to 373 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: go to state college and make ten million dollars. 374 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 8: A year, dude, I don't even know. It's it's bad. 375 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 8: I didn't want them to. I mean I didn't support 376 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 8: them Fire and Franklin to begin with. But whatever, I mean, 377 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 8: guys have lost their jobs before that. I thought should 378 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 8: get one more year. But man, like I don't have 379 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 8: to know. I can look out the window as an 380 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 8: outsider and see fog. But if you're an athletic director, 381 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 8: you can correct me if I'm wrong. Here you live 382 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 8: in this world. If you're an athletic director and you're 383 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 8: gonna make the move on a coach that has averaged 384 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 8: basically a playoff caliber season over the past three or 385 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 8: four years, don't you at least have to have a 386 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 8: pretty good working set of knowledge about who you can acquire, 387 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 8: which was void up there. Just we're gonna fire and 388 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 8: then well we'll let the plane take off, then we'll 389 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 8: figure out how to fix the landing gear mid flight 390 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 8: was basically the. 391 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 7: Planet Penn state. 392 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: That's a great way. That is a great analogy, unbelievable analogy, 393 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: I would agree. Like again, it's it's one of those 394 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: you know what the the you know what it does 395 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: is it completely dismantles and disarms the argument of hey, 396 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: we got to fire a guy early in the season 397 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: so we get ahead on the hiring cycle. It's actually 398 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: been backfired for them because you know, because once they 399 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: fired him, okay, Nebraska's like, well, we know you're coming 400 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: after our guy. We're going to re up him before 401 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: there's ever a chance, you know, to get him on campus. 402 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: That's really what happened. 403 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell you the other thing. I think ls 404 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 8: you missed the boat here as well. I think LSU 405 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 8: and Penn State. Now LSU got their coach, so it's 406 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 8: all well and good for them. But we went through 407 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 8: this whole multi week ordeal about if Kiffin takes the job, 408 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 8: will he be able to coach in the playoffs? And 409 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 8: then you got Birje Assbury in the administration at LSU saying, hey, 410 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 8: we would have been fine with him coaching the playoffs. 411 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 8: Well how about this, then, why didn't you just hang 412 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 8: on to Brian Kelly through January? He could be none 413 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 8: the wiser. You could back channel this thing, keep it 414 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 8: ultra quiet. Is it the most ethical move in the world. No, 415 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 8: But I mean, look at the landscape right now. It's 416 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 8: void of any logic, much less ethics. So I look 417 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 8: at Penn State the same way. If you've got a 418 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 8: tight circle and you got folks you can trust, just 419 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 8: backchannel the thing. It's purely theatrics to pretend like you 420 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 8: have to have fired your head coach publicly before you're 421 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 8: allowed to begin a coaching search. There's no law that 422 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 8: says that. There's not even a bylaw that says that. 423 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 8: But you've got real Look, I want to be respectful because, 424 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 8: like I know these guys, but just some gross incompetence 425 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 8: at the wheel right now at multiple big time programs. 426 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: I don't think there's there's any question. 427 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 7: You know. 428 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: What's interesting was I talked to a couple ads and 429 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: they're like, you know, the guy who should get the 430 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: sec job versus John Summraw and he's kind of got 431 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: drugged through a drug over the coles when I don't know, 432 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: it feels like Florida actually made a good hire, but 433 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: because they didn't get Kiffin, it seems like a negative. 434 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, here's basically what that equates to. I mean, the 435 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 8: best defense of not liking Sumrall that I have heard 436 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 8: from Florida fans boils down to will we already tried 437 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 8: a G five coach from the state of Louisiana, you know, 438 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 8: which is a ken in the real world, to saying 439 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 8: I want dated a girl from Charlotte, North Carolina. It 440 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 8: did not work out. I could never date another girl 441 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 8: from Charlotte, North Carolina. Like the entire pool of potential 442 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 8: bachelorettes there in the greater Charlotte area. They're permanently poisoned, 443 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 8: the wellest poisoned because one example didn't work out. Of course, 444 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 8: there's no logic. It's void of any logic. I've said 445 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 8: that three times already in the short period that we've 446 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 8: been talking here. But John Somerral's great, Like if you 447 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 8: get down to football, just get down the real brass 448 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 8: tax football type stuff. 449 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 7: He's great. 450 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 8: He's Look, if you don't believe me, I don't care. 451 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 8: I mean my opinions. Whatever it is. You said it, though, 452 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 8: go talk to people around the league. Go talk to 453 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 8: people just around the South in general. Talk to NFL scouts. 454 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 8: They universally knew it was a matter of when, not if, 455 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 8: he got one of those big time jobs. I will 456 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 8: tell you this, Doug. He wanted that auburne and Auburn 457 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 8: fumbled it fantastically, and I was ready to just rip Auburn, 458 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 8: but I kept my mouth shut because sometimes athletic and 459 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 8: administration's trip backwards across the finish line and ended up 460 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 8: landing softly. And they did. They got Alex Golish, and 461 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 8: he's a really good coach too. But John wanted that 462 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 8: Auburn job Florida. For all the people been moaning this 463 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 8: higher down, there may in three years be looking at 464 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 8: it saying that could have been the most fortuitous turn 465 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 8: of events over that seventy two or ninete sent hour 466 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 8: period that we ever could have voted for. 467 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: Josh Payton joining us synonymous college college football. It's Doug 468 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Josh Paid, of 469 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: course has the Josh Paid College Football Show, which you 470 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: should watch, listen to download at your leisure, or check 471 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: him out on YouTube as well. We were just having 472 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: a discussion about the year that has been college football, 473 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: and my point was, I can pick apart all the games, 474 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, like Dan Byer and I we watched all 475 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: these games. Sam's a Iowa guy, so he watched all 476 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: the Iowa games, and we go, this was a great game. 477 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: That was a great game, you know, and maybe Ohio 478 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: State Indiana is an epic one. Has it changed for 479 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: you as somebody who grew up around this and now 480 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: talks about it for a living, the the energy towards 481 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,239 Speaker 1: a game, because who wins and who loses doesn't have 482 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: as great an effect on the outcome of the national 483 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: championship because the biggest games, for the most part, both 484 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: those teams are going anyway, right, Yeah, So I guess 485 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: that's the question is of the games this year, are 486 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: any of them in the regular season going to be 487 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: memorable or they really diminished by the playoff. 488 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 8: It's a really it's a good question, and it's a 489 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 8: weird answer. So my answer is for some of the 490 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 8: regular season games, my biggest spear was the expanded playoff 491 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 8: would delude the value of those regular season games, and 492 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 8: maybe it did a little bit, but in a percentage form, 493 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 8: I would say like five percent. I went to all 494 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 8: the biggest games the country. I get to pick wherever 495 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 8: I go every week, Like a lot of those things 496 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 8: were still really really big game environments. I will say 497 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 8: this though. It just dawned on me yesterday Number one 498 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 8: and versus Number two were playing Saturday, and I think 499 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 8: back to some of like the Game of the Century 500 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 8: type matchups or a Game of the Millennium type matchups 501 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 8: we've had where one v. Two happens in the regular season, 502 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 8: and I think you're right, those did feel infinitely bigger, 503 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 8: even as regular season games than the Big ten championship 504 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 8: game does. And it's because we built a great, big 505 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 8: safety net under it, and that was always going to 506 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 8: be the price you paid for expanding the playoffs. It's 507 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 8: also why it just aggravates me to no end that 508 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 8: we're sitting here at twelve. I still think we have 509 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 8: a fine enough balance and we've got a complete mess 510 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 8: of the college football calendar, and yet the powers that 511 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 8: be's main focus is how do we expand the playoff one? 512 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 8: You know, you got a huge mess over here, and 513 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,239 Speaker 8: you got something that's working okay, over there, and all 514 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 8: their attention is over there instead of over here. 515 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: Okay, so help me out. How do you so this 516 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: is a real discussion, Josh Page joining us here in 517 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: the Doug Gollie Show. So again, I don't have all 518 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: the answers, but I am a college coach, and I 519 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: can tell you that at least college basketball did make 520 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: one adjustment to the portal calendar. Last year. The portal 521 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: was opened during the NCAA tournament Oka and then it 522 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: closed up in the Final four, then opened this year. 523 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: I believe it's not open until after the NCAA tournament, 524 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: So that that's a positive adjustment. Football is different, okay, 525 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: and let me explain, Josh, I know you know this, 526 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: this is not for you, but so people understand that 527 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: the early signing period starts today, right, and high school 528 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: players can enroll early, Okay, enroll early as well as 529 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: for transfers. Like, the idea is, you got to have 530 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: somebody in place for the portal for high school recruiting, 531 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: and so you have a team in place at the 532 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: start of second semester so that you're gonna have spring 533 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: football so that you have some of these practices before 534 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: you get the summer where you don't have enough time 535 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: in the summer to make up for it. Okay, how 536 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: do you, Josh Pate, adjust the calendar so that we 537 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: don't have not only coaches changing jobs when their team 538 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: is still playing playing games. 539 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 8: Yep, all right, So you got two options here. You 540 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 8: really have no control over the first one from the 541 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 8: athletic side, and that is the academic calendar. You could 542 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 8: have an alternate universe where, you know, people kind of 543 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 8: acknowledge the reality, and that is that the quote unquote 544 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 8: student athlete exists on campus because of a completely different 545 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 8: reason than the math major. Therefore, you create a separate 546 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 8: student athlete academic calendar as you know that's very unrealistic. 547 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 8: If you could do that, you can solve a lot 548 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 8: of problems. So if we assume we live in a 549 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 8: world where that's not possible, then college football has got 550 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 8: to adjust its calendar. And I think what you probably 551 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 8: have to do, and I would hate it because it's 552 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 8: one thousand degrees in the South in late August, but 553 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 8: you probably have to move the start of your season 554 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 8: up a week to where you're that third week in 555 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 8: August kicking off to where you can end your season 556 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 8: third week of November, where your conference championship games are 557 00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 8: taking place December or Thanksgiving weekend rather and you just 558 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 8: four week your playoffs and have your national championship on 559 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 8: New Year's Day, and then you go National Signing Day 560 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 8: shortly thereafter and portal windows shortly after that. That's the 561 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 8: only obmum I make. 562 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: I would say there's one other option, and I think 563 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: Saban sort of said it, which is I think what 564 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: you gotta do is you gotta cut the spring and 565 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: fire up the summer. I think that's what you gotta do. 566 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: I have you no, I mean, and for people don't understand, again, 567 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: you can't for basketball, we can do eight hours but 568 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: it has to be four and four. So we get 569 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: four hours a week in the summer for basketball and 570 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: it helps, but again it's still very very difficult. You 571 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: don't have time to have real practice. Like look, reality is, 572 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: all of these programs that we're talking are four programs. 573 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: I would guess by now they all have indoors, So 574 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: weather's not an issue. If it is, if it's hot 575 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: and you don't have an indoor, one you better build 576 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: one and you're not getting coaches or players, and two 577 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: you can do it in the morning. But again the 578 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: counter to it is because because the argument is, hey, 579 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: we need those practices, we need to get our young 580 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: guys up and going we build a new team. I 581 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: think the only way to do it is, you know, 582 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: maybe you maybe you cut off early early enrollees and 583 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: then you have summer practice, or you have a certain 584 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: number of practices where you're allowed with any guys that way, 585 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: even your early enrollies, if they want to get there, 586 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: they can. But that you can either bank the practices 587 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: for the summer that we're supposed to be in the 588 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: spring something like that. 589 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 8: I think that works a lot of ads that I've 590 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 8: talked to, and a lot of coaches that I've talked 591 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 8: to strongly prefer that you can always tell the guys 592 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 8: who have coached pro ball, So the second that's mentioned, 593 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 8: they just say, yeah, that's just a fancy way of 594 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 8: saying OTAs, and yes, I'm all for it, and yes 595 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 8: it would greatly alleviate a lot. Look, that stuff just 596 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 8: makes my head spin because I'm a visual guy, so 597 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 8: it's hard for me to mentally see the calendar, much 598 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 8: less all the dates on the calendar. But when guys 599 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 8: whose opinions I trust all start to align behind something, 600 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 8: I usually shut up and listen to it. And that's 601 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 8: one that's been floated around a lot. 602 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna I'm gonna load 603 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: you up with some amo and you can pick it 604 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: apart or go. That's good. I'm gonna go with it 605 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,479 Speaker 1: when I talk about it on my show. Okay, you 606 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 1: ready for it? 607 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 8: Go. 608 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: Lots of people are saying, hey, I don't want to punish, 609 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: for example, Ole Miss's players for Lane Kiffin's departure. I 610 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: don't think you punish him. Okay, I think we're looking 611 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: at this all wrong. I don't think Florida State was punished. 612 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: I think Florida State was appropriately evaluated as being inferior 613 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: to their where they were in the regular season two 614 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: years ago when the quarterback went down. I think that's 615 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: the the old miss thing. If you move them down 616 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 1: seed wise or whatever you do with them, you're not 617 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: punishing them. You're trying to figure out who the best 618 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: teams are. And I don't think anybody would argue they're 619 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: not as good without Lane Kiffen as they were with 620 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin, much the way you'd say with the quarterback. 621 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: Do you know you are? Are you okay with pushing 622 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: back on the punished word. 623 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 8: I yes, I see where you're going. Like logically, that's 624 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 8: all aligned, Like we're aligned on that. The two things 625 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 8: that I keep pushing back on all right. One, we 626 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 8: saw Florida State play multiple games without Jordan Travis. Sure, 627 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 8: so if you wanted to go that route, like our 628 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 8: eyeballs saw how inferior their offense was without him on 629 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 8: the field. Now, my whole thing during that period was 630 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 8: that committee did not say best teams. They said most 631 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 8: deserving teams. And then at the eleventh hour, I vividly 632 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 8: remember it, Doug Bill Hancock goes on some interview, like 633 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 8: it wasn't even an official platform or anything, and he 634 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 8: just casually said, you know, the term most deserving is 635 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 8: not in our lexicon. It's best. Well, once you say that, 636 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 8: I don't really even care if I think you're punishing 637 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 8: them or not. Like we can argue over semantics if 638 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 8: we're trying to put the best teams in there, who 639 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 8: are essentially power rating teams at that point, and no 640 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 8: Florida State would have no business there. But even applying that, 641 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 8: how does one apply that to Ole Miss right now? 642 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 8: Because there's season's over, we will have never even seen 643 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 8: them without Lane Kiffin or without some of his staff. 644 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 8: And I really don't know how you even quantify the impact. 645 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: Agreed? Uh does Alabama getting if they lose? 646 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 8: Yes, they do, Absolutely they do. I think Notre Dame 647 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 8: has been in far more trouble than Alabama for a 648 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 8: couple of weeks now. I just think the committee finally 649 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 8: admitted it in their rankings last night. 650 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: He's Josh Pate check them out. It's payte State, It's 651 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: the Josh Paig College Football Show. You, sir, are the best. 652 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: Enjoy this is I know, your personal Christmas. Thanks for 653 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: bringing our guests. 654 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 8: Appreciate it. 655 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: Doug. 656 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 657 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 5: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 658 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 659 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. No more 660 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: waiting your goals start now this Cyber Monday. Take your 661 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: workouts around the world with Nordick Track and I Fit. 662 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: Save big on treadmills, bikes and rowers at Nordi Trak 663 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: dot Com, Nordi Trak Trade Anywhere, explore everywhere. Let's get 664 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: to Dan by her for the press, the press, dingle 665 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: bell jingle bells. 666 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 7: Anybody got bub all right, Doug? Chiefs Cowboys on Thanksgiving 667 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 7: Day is now the most watched NFL regular season game ever. 668 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 7: More than fifty seven point million viewers tuned in, peaked 669 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 7: with more than sixty one million viewers now. Prior to 670 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 7: that on Fox it was the Packers and Lions. Forty 671 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 7: eight million people tuned in to watch that game. Yes, 672 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 7: it's a that's a lot. That was at the time 673 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 7: for about three and a half hours. The most watched. 674 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: How many people watched? How many you watch? 675 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 7: Forty eight million? 676 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: Nearly how many people watched the Cowboys. 677 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 7: Game fifty seven point two. 678 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: Okay, so listen the next time you go, hey, why 679 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: are those shows always talking about the Cowboys. Again, I'm 680 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: not saying it's always a good deal the idea to 681 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: talk about the Cowboys, but this is what TV people do, right, 682 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: They see those numbers, like, well, everybody wants talk about 683 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, so talk about the Cowboys. And especially in 684 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: the offseason, we just make up segments. We don't put 685 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: others make up segments to talk about the Cowboys. This 686 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: is why. 687 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 7: Well, and historically this has been the highest rated game 688 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 7: of every season, and the Lions game is the second one. 689 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 7: When you throw the Chiefs into it, like, it's just 690 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 7: like mega, Like that's the dream super Bowl scenario I 691 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 7: think for the NFL. 692 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 2: Also, it's also proof that there is exactly zero motivation 693 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: to fix the product. If you're delivering those numbers and 694 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: revenues are up, there's not gonna be any meetings about 695 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 2: how do we fix this mid product? 696 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: Well, I actually do think I agree with you, Jason, 697 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: that they're not going to try and fix the product, 698 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: but they're the best thing they do to try to 699 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: help the product is keep the quarterbacks healthy, and that's 700 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: the only thing they feel like they've been able to do. 701 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: Keep the quarterbacks healthy. You can't really hit them in 702 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: a way which taking get hurt. That's the goal. 703 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 6: Jackson Dart excluded. 704 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 7: I will also say this, and I've always been a 705 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 7: supporter of Lion stay on Thanksgiving and like those rumblings 706 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 7: were heard a little bit more, I would say that 707 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 7: when yes, and then when they stunk for a long 708 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 7: long time now, like in this window that we were in, 709 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 7: if they weren't as good as they were right now, 710 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 7: the NFL would change it. Now, I don't think that 711 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 7: they can. I think that now Detroit is locked in, 712 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 7: and even if Detroit takes a turn for it, it 713 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 7: would be a while before they would strip it away. 714 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 7: But my goodness, I think Detroit got super fortunate in 715 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 7: the timing that they became really good right when I 716 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 7: thought like the NFL would maybe pull the trigger on 717 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 7: making a change. 718 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: We agree, and I'm. 719 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 7: Very happy for it. ESPN reports the agent for Bucks 720 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 7: forward Jannison Tetakumpo, has initiated conversations about whether Janis's future 721 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 7: should be in Milwaukee. A decision is expected. 722 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: In that worded that's like the most BS wording ever. 723 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: Not you did, Dan, I'm saying that just well, they're 724 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: could begin conversations whether a Milwaukee is the right place. 725 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: In other words, hey man, do you wander this now? 726 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: Do you want to wait to the offseason? 727 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 7: That's what's happened, correct, and find out what other teams 728 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 7: want to be, uh want to be in. 729 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: Right, it's the opposite. It's the opposite of the of 730 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: the Luca deal. Right where Dallas decided to shop him, 731 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: they did so in silence, and in this case, it's 732 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna be silent about it. 733 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 7: A lines wide receiver I'm under us Saint bron is 734 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 7: questionable to play tomorrow against the Cowboys. Mike Evans return 735 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 7: to practice for the Buccaneers today. Brown's open up the 736 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 7: twenty one day practice window for Deshaun Watson and Jim 737 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 7: Harbaugh had go to the Charger, says Justin Herbert not 738 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 7: practicing today, but they're optimistic he plays Monday against the 739 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 7: Eagles despite that broken hand. And that is the press. 740 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 1: May get out there and pressed. That was the press 741 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: the Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, Tomorrow's 742 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: game day for US first Conference League game. Enjoy the 743 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: Night Back Tomorrow. Download the podcast is available now. This 744 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: Dugogg Show