1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Via Around the NFL Podcast, Wait where are all the Jets? Hats? Dan? 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition to the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Jansas and I'm joined by rom 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: Philis of Heroes, Mark Sessler, Greg ros Athal oh and 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: joining us for the first time in a in a 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: full show capacity at least, Nick Shock. Hey, Dan, who's 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Nick Schuck? Do you want to know? Nick Chuck? Is 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 1: Nick Shook baer, That's what he is, Nick Shook, And 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: this is our video show. So right away you're like, 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: whoa who is this dude? Very well built, extremely masculine. 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: Nick Shook works on the editorial team downstairs in the newsroom, 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: has been with the company for a couple of years. Right, 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 1: took a little sabbatical, took a sabbatical, um, but it's 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: definitely highly knowledgeable. Also another Browns fan. Oh, there seems 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: to be quite a few Browns fans considering the play. 16 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: What do you know? They're actually loyal through the course 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: of their life. They don't just move to another city 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: and pick up what other team happens to be operating 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: there in the zip code. Very nice, well played. Mark 20 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: we Jook is an allied Well okay, you know, shook 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: and I have beens are sometimes it's I like to 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: tell what it's like to watch a team that hasn't 23 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: want in three plus decades. He likes to tell me 24 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: about one that hasn't won in two plus. It's it's 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: somehow a stranger argument coming from a man who grew 26 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: up in Connecticut and roots for the Browns. But you've 27 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: been loyal, you know what I mean, You've been Yeah, 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: it is fair, But this guy is from Cleveland workers 29 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: playing on Sunday, so you have to pick a team. Um. Mark, 30 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: By the way, yeah, we do want to touch touch 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: based real quick. So Nick, welcome to the show. Happy 32 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 1: to have you for our around the NFC and forty 33 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: eight minutes we're gonna get to we needed help, so 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: we we go to the bullpen and we're excited. Mark. Uh, 35 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: last time we talked to you, you were racing back 36 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: for from an urgent care clinic. Uh. Here's uh in 37 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: case you missed our last show, a quick rundown of 38 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: what happened with Mark lash show this together made your 39 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: laceration on the on the left index finger, on the 40 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: left index finger and on the left index finger. Hey, 41 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: let's just glue this together. Hey, let's just glue this together. Alright. 42 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: So major laceration and uh you went to the urgent 43 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: care and got it stitched up, a smaller cast on 44 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: your hand, but still a lot of gauze. Where are 45 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: you at physically right now? Well, that ridiculous thing that 46 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: was on the hand before I switched it over, and 47 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: the BP makes sense. I looked at it. It does 48 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: not look good. I'm gonna be honest, it just doesn't 49 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: look good. And they have me on some bizarre antibiotic 50 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: where I feel slightly dizzy and nauseous all the time. 51 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: So Mark, okay, listen. The last time Shook was on 52 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: the show, I was on the couch at home sideline 53 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: with another health issue. So this is could be huge 54 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: for Shook. I helpe. West isn't at home recovering from 55 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 1: the big He's doing great. You know, lost his voice 56 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: a little bit listening to us moan about the finger. 57 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: What do you say? Why are you marginal again? Greg? 58 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: Marginalized two times in roughly two minutes, Greg taking everything 59 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: that I'm about, just saying you're kind of worthless to Greg. 60 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: Of course. This is the Around the NFL Podcast presented 61 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: by new Era and UH and and now we have 62 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: all the hats. If you're watching the video show, which 63 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: UH is live on NFL dot Com at nine thirty 64 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: Eastern six thirty Pacific overseas, figure it out all the 65 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: hats on display. We're all wearing hats for today's show. Uh. Greg, 66 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: you're going with the the Patriots um visor that neatly 67 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 1: matches your NFL Network shirts, So you kind of look 68 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: like a guy that like one of Belichick's underpaid assistants. 69 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: Not happy about it either. With the clothing, I'm happy. Yeah, 70 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm like the guy who who holds the red hanky 71 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: for him and handed right, you're basically Eric Mangini in 72 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: I would take that. Yeah, that's gonna give you a 73 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: better job than that, I think, like next to Josh 74 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: McDaniels with your arms folded. Yeah, alright, so tell you. 75 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: We got a lot to get to so let's get 76 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: to it. Um, Maddie Stafford got paid. Oh my goodness, 77 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: as I teased moments earlier, we did the a f 78 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: C on Monday today around the NFC, and I mean 79 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: around the NFC and forty eight minutes. UH. And Joe 80 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: Hayden no longer brown and uh, guys, I got a 81 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: little news now a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers. My goodness. 82 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: So we'll get into that and we'll talk to the 83 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: Browns fans in the room. But before we do any 84 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: of that, would say hello behind the glass to the 85 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: great Erica Tamposy. Some people call her a loose cannon. 86 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: I'll just call her LC. What's up? That's right? How's 87 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: it going. It's going great. You have your Patriots cap on. 88 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: This is our final New Era show, so we're really 89 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: blown it out on Twitter. But New Era like, where's 90 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: my brain? See? This is why always always always looking 91 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: for that angle building the brandy. She's ruthless. She's running 92 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: her own fantasy league with listeners that I think it's great. 93 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: I couldn't fill my own with my own I don't 94 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: have any friends, have zero friends friends. You got four 95 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: on this side of the game, Aserica. Let's let's do 96 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: some news alright. Let's start UM with the latest than 97 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: and what has been you know, a tragedy down in 98 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: Texas and along the Gulf coast now Hurricane Harvey, which 99 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: UM continues to batter the region there as a result 100 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: of the storm and the unprecedented flooding. The Texans were 101 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: in a very difficult spot with their final preseason game. 102 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: There was a plan for the Cowboys and Texans to 103 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: move and play their game at a T and T 104 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: Stadium in Arlington, which of course is the Cowboys home field, 105 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: but that has now been canceled. Both teams announced um. 106 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: According to Mike Garifolo at NFL Network, one of the 107 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: reasons for canceling the game now is for players to 108 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: get back to Houston, help out in the relief efforts 109 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: and be with their families. Uh So, no final preseason 110 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: game between the Cowboys and Texans, but there is greg 111 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: um some positive signs and missed the devastation down there 112 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: that we might be getting back to approaching normalcy in 113 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: terms of the long road back to that well for 114 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: for football, yes, I I took some news that Rick Smith, 115 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: their general manager, said the plan was to play Week 116 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: one in Houston, that they would be hosting the game 117 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: against the Jaguars. I don't think that's official, but he 118 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: said that that's the plan, and I'm sure that'll be 119 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: uh an emotional day. I think it's gonna be a 120 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: long recovery for the region. But you can understand. Of course, 121 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: of course you go home, like if they would have 122 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: had to stay there an extra forty eight hours, knowing 123 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: that their kids in some cases and their house and 124 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: their families and their wives are there, and you're just like, 125 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: you have to stay there for the fourth preseason game. 126 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: It seemed a little crazy. So they they sounded like 127 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: they were very excited to get on the bus and 128 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: head back to Houston. UM and for everyone to know 129 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: because one of the great UM, you know, human stories 130 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: out of this that's come out of this is how 131 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: much everyone has helped and pitching across the country. J. J. 132 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: Watt has been a major part of that, and a 133 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: lot of teams chipping in. UH. You can to UM. 134 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: You can join the NFL family and helping those affected 135 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: by Hurricane Harvey by texting keyword Harvey UM to nine 136 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: zero nine to donate ten dollars to the American Red 137 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: Cross Hurricane Harvey Relief. Your donation enables the Red Cross 138 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: to respond and help people recover from this disaster. Please 139 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: donate today and help those in need. You could also 140 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: visit www dot red Cross dot org slash NFL. There's 141 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: a lot of when these type of tragedies happen. UH, 142 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: and there's massive relief efforts. There's a lot of scams 143 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: that pop up. Make sure you're donating to the right places. 144 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: That one's full proof. Moving on to UM football news, 145 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: we had uh earlier. Joe Hayden no longer remember of 146 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: the Browns. Uh. The former first round pick who had 147 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: been there since two thousand and ten and was once 148 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: uh their best players, has slipped in the last couple 149 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: of years with some injuries. UH. And now the Browns 150 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: made the decision to cut ties with the former pro bowler. Uh. 151 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: Nick Chuck will start with you on this one. Uh. 152 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: He right, just as we started the show, he agreed 153 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: to a three year deal with the Steelers. How difficult 154 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: is it? Uh, let's start here as a Browns fan 155 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: to see him go from Cleveland to Pittsburgh, your arch rival. Uh. 156 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: This The first time this happened in my life was 157 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: when punter Chris GARDOCKI defected from the Browns to the 158 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: Right at that level back in the day, and that 159 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: was heartbreaking. I've since grown into an adult and it 160 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: doesn't affect me as much or if at all. Joe Hayden, 161 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: Joe Hayden lost a step um in the last year 162 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: and a half, whether anybody likes to admit it or not, 163 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: he has dealt with injuries having a um. How how 164 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: would you characterize a groin injury? Uh, that's gonna make 165 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: you a little bit. You could tell he's not a 166 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: an eight figure cornerback anymore. He's not a top five cornerback. 167 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: And I mean even some of the highlights that we 168 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: run now, if if there isn't a safety to help 169 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: him there, he's getting burned. And the rest of the 170 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: division knew that. So, I mean the Steelers, this is 171 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: a pretty big contract for yeah, for a team that 172 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: might know that. But then again, you know, maybe maybe 173 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: I think the Steelers know it because they were willing 174 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: to give Cleveland. I mean, listen, whenever you can take 175 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: from the Browns at at a a contract that Cleveland 176 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: will help split the bit, split the bill on why not. 177 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: They gave Cleveland a draft pick for Justin Gilbert, so 178 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: they're always willing to test the waters. They'll play Cleveland 179 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: in Week one. I find that to be. You know, 180 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: it bothered me last year when Cleveland agreed to the 181 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: trade with the Eagles that allowed the Eagles to get 182 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and you knew Carson Wentz was playing Cleveland, 183 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: and the opener that there would be right there would 184 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: be a way to kind of create issues right away 185 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: with that trade. And this is not a trade, but 186 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: the idea that Joe Hayden probably could be lining up 187 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh immediately, you know, week one in dealing with 188 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: Cleveland and probably you know, offering secrets about Cleveland's plan. 189 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: That said, I'm Wis Shook that this was something that 190 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: we've mentioned on the podcast more than once this offseason, 191 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: that Hayden's contract was untenable. Cleveland is aggressively moving in 192 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: a new direction, and I don't have a problem with 193 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: Cleveland partying ways here with Joe Hayden. It's a huge 194 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: move for Pittsburgh that they're giving him seven million dollars 195 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: this season. So that's not top shelf starter money, that's 196 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: just kind of mid level veteran starter money, but that's significant. That's, Hey, 197 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: we're desperate at the position. We don't know who we're 198 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: gonna start. It was gonna be Ross Cockerel. I believe 199 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: their third round pick, Cam Sutton was maybe in the 200 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: Mike or Cody sense, like they did not feel comfortable 201 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: at cornerback at all. They're looking for Hayden to come 202 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: in and kind of shore up that position, and I 203 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: found this interesting. Adam Schefter reports that Hayden had bigger 204 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: offers from other teams that that he turned down because 205 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: he wanted Pittsburgh. So he stays in the a f C. North. 206 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: I know, if I know is well in a similar 207 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: situation David Harris going to the Patriots. I'm happy for him. 208 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: I hopie he does well. But going to the Patriots, 209 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: I mean there's some similar DNA. They don't you'd rather 210 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: not end up with your division ronal. You want him 211 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: to do well, but that's it. Like to see him 212 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: with the Lions. Just get him, get him deep into 213 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: the distance. And one quick other note on the Browns. 214 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: Cavern Cameron Irving, a draft bus from two thousand and fifteen, 215 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: traded to the Chiefs for a fifth rounder, so the 216 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: Browns continue to accumulate draft picks. Also in the news, 217 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford got paid. That is the business a quarterback 218 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL. If you are above average, if you're 219 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: on the right side of the Dalton scale, you're gonna 220 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: get a lot of money, and Uh, Detroit and Stafford 221 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: agreed to terms on a five year deal worth a 222 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five million ninety two million and guarantees 223 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: he is now the highest paid player in the league. Greg, Uh, 224 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: tell me what this says about the landscape financially in 225 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: the NFL. Just means he's up next. And I we 226 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: keep having this conversation. I still think he's underpaid. He 227 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: actually takes up less of the salary cap than many 228 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks like Aaron Rodgers did when he first signed his deal, 229 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: because the salaries have exploded and then it hasn't really 230 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: caught up quarterback wise compared to defensive ends making eighteen 231 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: million dollars a year. So this, this story got on 232 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: a lot of talk radio sports radio's radar. How how 233 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: can Matthew Stafford be the top player in the league. 234 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: It's like he'll be the twelve best paid quarterback in 235 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: three years and so that then it will be we 236 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: all need to catch up on the quarterback thing. It's 237 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: it's just the latest. They're all gonna be over thirty 238 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: million before too long. Kirk Cousins especially is gonna help 239 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: blow it out, all right, And Uh, that's what's happening news. 240 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: We've gotta keep moving. Congratulations Maddie, He'll pay for a 241 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: lot of diapers. As he tweeted yesterday, he timed this well. 242 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: He got that. He got that money being the number 243 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: one overall pick before this cb A came in just 244 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: like Sam Bradford, and now he's coming in after the 245 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: salary cap. Both of him and Sam Bradford have made 246 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: an insane amount of money considering like compared to a 247 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: Tom Brady or Peyton Manning or Drew Brees, like those 248 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: two guys timed everything perfect. Um, I'm it's a little aggregating, 249 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: aggravating to me as somebody that has to pay for 250 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: diapers and it cost a lot of money for that 251 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: to be one of the go to bits for guys 252 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: after they signed a big contract. Now I can take 253 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: care of these diapers. Yeah, alright, either expensive and there's 254 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: a constant expensive bro. Well maybe not for you, creg 255 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: but on the on on the salaries that Dan and 256 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: I are operating on, I think they took a chunk 257 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: out of the household budget. I will I can confirm 258 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: extremely expensive. Worst thing to buy diapers, waffle fries, worst 259 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: things got paid their car well, that's that's right, that's right, 260 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: And of course Joe Flacco famously went to McDonald's after 261 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: he got his massive contract. All right, now it's time 262 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: for the training camp Spotlight presented by New Era. All right, Greg, 263 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: queue us up here. Um, there are names out there. 264 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: Trades happen in the league this time of year. Uh, real, quick, 265 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: throw throw out some names that could be on the 266 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: move in your opin, Yeah, I think this done this week. Yeah. 267 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: All the players are getting cut after the Thursday night game, 268 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be a day lose of players, and 269 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of trade talks. A couple of names. 270 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: I think to watch brock Oswiler if he doesn't get traded, 271 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: and I'd be shocked if he did. Will he get cut? 272 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: I tend to think yes. Once you put these guys 273 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: up on the trade blox, they usually get cut. T J. 274 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: Ward is another one in Denver, Matt Forte. I don't 275 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: know why they would cut him when he's guaranteed four 276 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: million dollars look pretty good the other day. But he's 277 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: another name. Well, they don't want to win games, that 278 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: would be one. Yeah. Sheldon Richardson has really killed it 279 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: in the preseason. I'm wondering if they really make one 280 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: last gasp to try to get him moved before the season. 281 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: He could help someone and in a contract a year. 282 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: I think he's somebody that if you're a team that 283 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: needs help on the defensive line, Uh, maybe will cost 284 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: you a second or third rounder, but you get a 285 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: guy that can really win games for you potentially. Uh 286 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: not bad either. One quick jet thing. Is it a 287 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: total disservice to Matt Forte to wait this long to 288 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: the what to do with him and he's gonna trying 289 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: to go catch up with somewhere else if he gets cut. 290 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: Joe had in the same thing. Yeah, I mean Hayden. Hey, 291 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: I agree that's fair, But I mean Hayden at some 292 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: point had a chance in camp I think to truly 293 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: be a starter for Cleveland. With Matt Forte, it's like 294 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: they obviously cut bait on all these all these veterans, 295 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: and now he's he's not going to get a starting jo. 296 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: They didn't cut him because the money was guaranteed and 297 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: they made the decision to try to hold on to him. 298 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: I guess he's probably been shot for a while. Uh. 299 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: That is the training camp spotlight presented by New Era. 300 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: Oh Yeah, speaking in which New Era's NFL Training Collection 301 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: has a great combination of innovative performance and style with 302 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: features like UV protection, moisture wicking, and cooling technology. 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Well, you know you're got 313 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: a great can I say you're checking the box of 314 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: I've been pumping up Kevin Patrick for three years in 315 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: this podcast for his bod, and now we got like 316 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: a young Arnold sitting in the studio and it's now 317 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: I feel weird about the Patrick thing. How do I 318 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: ever go back to as as nice as Patrick's bod 319 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: is after seeing what I've seen? You know, flaming I 320 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: think it's great. Patrick has that bulletin board that he 321 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: has up on his wall and he's got a lot 322 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: to write on it. Now. Yeah, so does anyone that 323 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: claims to be in shape on any level. I mean, 324 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: if there's an argument that human beings came from like 325 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: multiple different planets when shook, when he walks around the newsroom, 326 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: he'd be an argument because he literally looks like a 327 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: different human being than most other men in the room. 328 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: So anybody else on objectified Nick body before we move. 329 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: I think he likes it, though he seems to like. Um. 330 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: I was walking down the street with my girlfriend the 331 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: other day and I walked past a construction crew and 332 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: we're whistling at you. She's in shape, and she was 333 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: wearing a crop top and they said stuff to me, 334 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: not her. She was upset into a problem. That's not 335 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: he likes it now. It's part of life, you know 336 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: what it's part. It's part of the good life. What 337 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: it is. You put in a lot of work on 338 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: that bod, Yes or no? How many times a week 339 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: you working at five? Oh my god, how many what 340 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: are you doing the other two days? I don't want 341 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: to sound like that guy, but I would say like 342 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: active rest, playing basketball, that kind of thing. The rest 343 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: is important to uh, probably an hour and a half 344 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: each time. Do the math, guys pumping iron. I'm also 345 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: not married, I don't have kids, So he takes so 346 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: all that work. Now he gets the show out now 347 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: and say this is what the work gave. Most of 348 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: us didn't have kids deep into our thirties and we 349 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: never achieved anything close. So that's not you know, Um, 350 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: is this getting weird? Erica? Is this getting weird? I 351 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: mean a little weird. But it's like it's fine. Junior 352 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: Belichick over here, you know, pretending like he's not a 353 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: part of it. You're looking at the Bob two. Alright, 354 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: you need to cover up. Alright, So we did it. 355 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: Let's move on. So we did it um on Monday 356 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: around the a f C. And just so you're aware, Nick, 357 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: we we don't go through. We don't kind of jump 358 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: in and out. We go around the NFC in forty 359 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: eight minutes, three minutes per team, and we'll start in 360 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: the NFC East and Greg, we will start with you. Erica. 361 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: We're ready to start the clock. I mean, this is 362 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: our NFC preview right here. Yeah, we're ready give us 363 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: a little fog horn to get us going. Eagles go. 364 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: If football is one in the trenches, they always say 365 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: that a football is one up front, don't. We have 366 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: to take the Eagles seriously as a contender in this 367 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: division because for their defensive line, Timmy Journ again would 368 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: be one of the best pickups of the off season. 369 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: Next to Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham, that's a great 370 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: defensive line. The offensive line is pretty strong, not quite 371 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, but I think they believe it will 372 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: be a strength of their team. This is a team 373 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: built from the inside out, and I think they have 374 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: to feel pretty good about both of their lines heading 375 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: into the season. Are you getting sucked in by the 376 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: Eagles again? Just what I do? I feel like of 377 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: any team that I watched on game Pass Live during 378 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: the preseason, that Phillies front seven interrupted and created chaos 379 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: for every quarterback they faced. I don't buy it so 380 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: much with what I saw in the ground game and 381 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: on the offensive line. Had a bad preseason, so I 382 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: think they have to worry about on paper. I think 383 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: they liked the players. Defense was completely different than last 384 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: year's team. Now, Greg, when is the last time you 385 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: didn't pick the Eagles to win the NFC East. It's 386 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 1: been a while. I just like to be consistent, you know, 387 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: pick what you wrote, what you want to happen anyway, 388 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: So why not? Why is that? I'm just that just 389 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: a little bit, Like I picked the Packers in the 390 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: Patriots in the Super Bowl every year for a long 391 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: long time. I don't know what are we expecting from 392 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: from Carson Wentz this year, because I know he showed 393 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: good and bad trades last year. Nick, what do you think? 394 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: I don't even think that would be the problem. I mean, 395 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: you have your second year, which tends to be the 396 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: year when those especially guys who've got a lot of 397 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: experience in the rookie year, take that next step because 398 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, the game slows down and everything. My problem 399 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: with him is is where is he going outside of 400 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: of all Shan Jeffrey and and Zach Ertz, Like they 401 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: put a lot of pressure on Nelson Aglor to be 402 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: something worthwhile and I haven't seen it so far. And 403 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,239 Speaker 1: if you're going into a season and relying on him 404 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: is one of your best targets, Tory Smith, you hope 405 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: can take the top off, like Mac Collins a little bit. 406 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: You have some running backs that can catch the ball. 407 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: I don't know you. I've heard good arguments from smart 408 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: people that Carson Wentz is the next guy. He's the 409 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: guy to build around in the entire NFL. I've heard 410 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: good arguments from smart people that Wentz was, you know, 411 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: a mess last year, and there's no reason to believe 412 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: in articular that he's gonna be in above average quarterback 413 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: anytime soon. I don't know what to believe, Like I E, 414 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: I have no idea what's gonna happen with Wentz either way, 415 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 1: when it happens with these after one year, there's a 416 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: lot of assumptions drawn on quarterbacks. We saw it with 417 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: Derek Carr. We saw it with Blake Bortles. We've seen 418 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: it with Carson Wentz. Maybe we'd stopped drawing these conclusions 419 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: after one season. I keep on catching a glimpse of you, 420 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: Greg in the video monitor. With the the way the 421 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: shirt matches the cap, it looks like a Halloween cost. 422 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: It wasn't planned. Yeah, it wasn't planned. I definitely do 423 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: look like especially with the headset, I really do kind 424 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: of look like I'm calling in plays like or it's 425 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: like senior year of college and someone's stone like a 426 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: Halloween party and you're playing Belichick. Poor Eagles didn't even 427 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: get talked about Graham Cox Journe again. That there. I 428 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: believe with one of the best trios in the league, 429 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna be in the mix. Dallas Cowboys, all right, 430 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: the Cowboys one last year? Why, guys, why, I'll tell 431 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: you why. They had a rookie quarterback who can make plays, 432 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: limit mistakes, and the dominant running game that could chew 433 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: up the clock, close out games pretty easy if you 434 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: can get that formula. It's not easy to get the formula. 435 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: But with Zeke Sideline potentially into week eight and we 436 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: don't know that that could even come down before you 437 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: hear this, what's going on with his appeal, But as 438 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: as of right now, it's still uh the six weeks suspension. 439 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: Uh If with him Sideline, is the formula compromised and 440 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: is the Dallas defense which was effectively hidden last year 441 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: about to be exposed? Anthony Hitchins's injury won't help matters. 442 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. I don't like when I hear people say that. 443 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: Once we've seen someone like Darren McFadden come in the 444 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: preseason and run well in games where no one's game 445 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: planning that this is a kind of a running back 446 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: proof offense. That Ezekiel Elliott wasn't really a difference maker. 447 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: I think anyone that watched him last year saw a 448 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: really rare athletes someone that was a completely different type 449 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: of guy. So missing him is huge. The idea that 450 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: an offensive line is going to continue to play the 451 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: way it does year after year. They've had some changes 452 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: in personnel another assumption, so I need to see it 453 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: before I make sure that's going to happen. I'm on 454 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: board with that because and and I'll give you my 455 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: hot take at the end of this, but that's a tease. Uh, 456 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 1: this this line is missing pieces. You know, they relied 457 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 1: on on Larry last year. He's gone, Doug Free gone, 458 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: and you don't you might not have your best running back. 459 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: And there's a way that he runs, like you said, 460 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: that's specific and unique to to his I guess body 461 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: type and also in the way that he can find 462 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: a hole that that your average running back Darren McFadden 463 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: or Alfred Morris. But they have three All pros and 464 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: they believe they're better at right tackle. We'll see if 465 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 1: they are. But well, they believe they're better at right 466 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: tackle for Layole Colins. So they have one real major 467 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: trouble spot left guard where it looks like it's gonna 468 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 1: be Jonathan Cooper to bite off. That's a problem. I 469 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: think the one thing we haven't talked about yet, and 470 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: it's typical of this show, which is amazing and think about, 471 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: is Dak Prescott. Like Dak Prescott, like, where is that 472 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: ceiling for him? We haven't talked about it much. And 473 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: if if he was a first round picker, I don't 474 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: know if considering he's on the Cowboys, his ceiling should 475 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: be the best quarterback in the league because we have 476 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: not seen a quarterback come into the league and be 477 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: that good. If he takes the normal second year leap, 478 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna be unbelievable. He has played um you know, 479 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: put how much how much stock you want to put 480 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: into it, but he's played lights out um this summer 481 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: in his practices. You all you read his raves about 482 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: how smooth and how in control he is. They're talked 483 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: about giving a bigger role. Des Bryant is healthy, there 484 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: is a chance and I I'm concerned if I'm a 485 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys fan that will be hard to replicate last season. 486 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: But the way the way the path back to twelve 487 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: and four, thirteen and three is Dak takes that next 488 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: step and is even better, and then when Zeke gets back, 489 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: everything kind of comes together and you're a force. Yeah. 490 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: Biggest issue I think is that the fact that division 491 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't surprise me if any of the teams won 492 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: the division would not surprise me. It's a wide open division. 493 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: Hot takes, Cowboys don't make it. They don't make the 494 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: playoffs because of their defense. Up next, Nick Shook, All right, 495 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: so we have the New York Giants, which you know 496 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: what you're gonna get in the New York Giants past 497 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: defense you're gonna do. You know what you're gonna get 498 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: from most of that front seven. But the big question 499 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: mark this entire preseason, and we don't want to put 500 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: too much stock in the preseason, but you know, that's 501 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: all we have to work with right now is that 502 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: offensive line and specifically the right guard position, which has 503 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: been John Jerry. They've rotate some other guys in there, 504 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 1: and left tackle Eric Flowers hasn't exactly been the best either. Uh. 505 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: You saw the results of that in Giants failing to 506 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: score an offensive touchdown until the third preseason game, which 507 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: was against the New York Jets. Uh, that's what they 508 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: needed to get into the end zone, and I think 509 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: that's where the concerned live. They have the weapons, but 510 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: can they protect Eli Manning. I'm not sure they can, 511 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure they can have the best running 512 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: game either. As a result, it's the familiar problem they 513 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: had they issued last year. Eli uh did not get 514 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: the time he needed and he didn't play well. And 515 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: Uh we talked about it during the free agency draft 516 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: process that when you're a team with that situation with 517 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: the line issue, and it's not a good draft for 518 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: a line and there's not a lot of great free 519 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: agency options, like how do you get better? How do 520 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: you fix that problem? It's not easy. They doubled down 521 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: on the guys that they had in terms of flowers 522 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: and heart, and they're thinking they'll get better. I'm interested 523 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: to see how this offense looks because we've heard Brandon 524 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: Marshall has been a little slow to get up to 525 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: speed there in terms of learning that offense. And when 526 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: I watched him, to me, Sterling Shepherd is gonna be 527 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 1: a much bigger factor than Brandon Marshall. And with O'Dell 528 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: Beckham hurt early in the season, he's gonna be even 529 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: a bigger factor. And Evan Ingram. I know it's only 530 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: the preseason, but he looks like he might skip that. 531 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: Every rookie tight end isn't that big a factor early. 532 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: I mean Ingram and Shepherd. If the two of them 533 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: end up making a big time impact, that that improves 534 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: the offense. I I really have concerns about the line, 535 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: the running game, and that division and in general just 536 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: trying to get deep into the season has not improved, 537 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: which is why I picked them for some reason in 538 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: August to go to the Super Bowl. Very concerned about that. 539 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: Why that? Why not they do? Say? Why not with them? Well? 540 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: Because defense? The defense, Please, they could be I was 541 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: trying to think who's the best defense in the NFL. 542 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: There's only a couple of different teams that comes to mind, 543 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: and they're one of them. Like that that first game 544 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: Giants Cowboys could be the best offense versus the best defense. Yeah, 545 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: I think they're GM saved this job with a killer 546 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: free agency hall last year and now they have a 547 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: second year together. That's what you I guess Mark, with 548 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: your prediction. The defense is as good as last year 549 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: or better. And Eli isn't done. And it was a 550 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: wildly rash thing. Hey not backing away, but I'm not. 551 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: It's it's not logic that I'm arguing. It's just I 552 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: threw it out there. Let's see what happens. Any other 553 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: final thoughts on the New York Giants going back to 554 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: protecting the quarterback and Eli has been like the iron Man, 555 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: but they're pack up quarterback situation would not be good 556 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: if he went down. You know, Smith may not make 557 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: the team. That's another name to watch this weekend. He's 558 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: coming off a tour n A c L has not 559 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: played well. They'll be there him or Josh Johnson gets 560 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: cut and one of them will be the backup. Great, 561 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: what about you like? That would be hurtful of Josh Johnson. 562 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: I hope they make the right decision. Giants, if you 563 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: know what's good for you. Mark closed out the division 564 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: with the Washington football team. All right to me? Watching 565 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: this team, this looks like a bottom five offense from 566 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: wire to wire. In the preseason, I didn't see Terrell 567 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: Prior connecting or meshing with Kirk Cousins. I didn't see 568 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins connecting with really anyone your tight end as 569 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: an issuary injury prone guy. And honestly, I watched this 570 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: team over and over wanting to see the club that 571 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years under a Grood and 572 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: has really a times peaked and been an exciting offense. 573 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: Deep concerns. Should I just say it's the preseason, I 574 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: don't need to worry. They're gonna figure it all about 575 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: out by week one, not by week one. This team 576 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: hasn't played together, so you mentioned Reid Bit was barely 577 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: there prior has not played well with Cousins Dots and 578 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: has really been off and on the field coach calling 579 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: them out. So they really just haven't been on the 580 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: field at the same time together. But they could warm 581 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: it up into it, I think, I don't know if 582 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: you can. That's my concern. And well, the Cowboys could 583 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: be in the same situation without Elliott, but warming warming 584 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: up in the in the NFC East could be tough. 585 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: Think it's a tough that's a tough road. I get 586 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: they have not looked good and they're changing their scheme, 587 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: and I guess I'll give Kirk Cousins a little credit here. 588 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: The fact that he keeps on getting twenty million dollar 589 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: contracts is he's been a producer, uh every time he's 590 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: gotten the opportunity. And I think they have the players 591 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: they there. There's injury issues, but I'm not gonna I'm 592 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: not gonna panic yet, but it might take a little 593 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: while and in a very competitive competitive division, I would 594 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: love to see you actually panicking over this. Then, just 595 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: like Fredding Gosh, this Redskins offense, I do think about 596 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: them a lot. I think their their season really comes 597 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: down to those two wide receivers prior in Dotson, because 598 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: they have to have a special offense. That's kind of 599 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: the way they're built. They're an offensive team because defensively, 600 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: they're just one of those teams that that are hoping 601 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: to be average, Like they have no hope to be 602 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: a top defense. They're just hoping that they're okay, and 603 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: they could be worse than Okay, you want Josh Norman 604 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: coming after you. Secondaries, Okay, secondary is not bad. They're 605 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: pretty deep at cornerback. They like their cornerback situation. I 606 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: think this is one of the toughest divisions to try 607 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: to pick in the way that it'll all pan out 608 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: in the end. But I think having after having this discussion, 609 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: I think I see the bottom feeder here. I mean, 610 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: it's it's not dishonorable to go six and ten. Yeah, 611 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: picking the Redskins to come in last two, I think 612 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: they I do as well. I think that they're in 613 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: a tough position here, but they have kind of exceeded 614 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: modest expectations before and I'm wary of that. I'm not 615 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: panicking about it, but I'm wary. I've got a lot 616 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: of emotion tied up in this Redskins. I'm just trying 617 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: to get to zero on the clock. I have a 618 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: weird flashback, really, I can talk about the Redskins. Have 619 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: a weird flashback to last year. Uh. I think we 620 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: all picked them to come in last or something like that, 621 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: and then you know, they went to the plan. We've 622 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: been wrong on that. We also forked them one year 623 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: they made the playoffs with r T three. So do 624 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: you like that? You like that? Remember that? Yeah? You 625 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: know that was a thing. What else he got on 626 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: the Redskins? Greg, how about the fact that Jay Gruden 627 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: didn't hire Wade Phillips when Wade Phillips wanted the job, 628 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: and the guy he did hire only lasted one more 629 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: season or no one more season. I mean, I don't 630 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: like their defense at all. Look at their coordinators. Right 631 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: the division pick I got the Giants. I'm going Giants 632 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: as well, with the Eagles as a wild card like that, 633 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: no one's picking the Cowboys. I'm gonna take the Eagles 634 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: just for that. There you go, all right, let's move 635 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: on to the NFC North. Greg get us going with 636 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: the defending champs of that division. The Packers have been 637 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: good for so long that we take it for granted. 638 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: You know, Rogers is always there. Ted Thompson is always there, 639 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy is always there. But they kind of have cycles. 640 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: They They're not where like the Patriots where they're just 641 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen wins all the time. And right now 642 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: I think they are in a good cycle of their 643 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: offense having been there and coming together all at the 644 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: right time before it blows up. Jordy Nelson's fully healthy 645 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: way removed from surgery, Davante Adams proved he can be 646 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: a difference maker. Randall Cobb is they're still he's healthy time. 647 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: Montgomery has been in that system, their offensive line has 648 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: been together, and it's as good as it's been in 649 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: the entire Aaron Rodgers run to me, they are in 650 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 1: the cycle kind of like the Steelers where this should 651 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: be the year that they are peaking. Like everything is 652 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: set up for that offense and really defensively overall, it's 653 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: pretty good too for this to be a Packers let's 654 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: get that one seed type of season. Well, you'd almost 655 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: you'd almost say we could get a rematch of Packers Pittsburgh, 656 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: who they met back in two thousand and ten. These 657 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: are the two teams in each conference. You're wondering, when 658 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: will you finally get it done and get back there. Yeah, 659 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean, look at it. Aaron Rodgers is if he's 660 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: not the best quarterback in the league, he's right behind 661 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: Brady and they last made it to the super Bowl. 662 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: Forget about Whin made it in two thousand and ten. 663 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: Uh that season. So it's like it's time, it's time 664 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: to take advantage of having this, you know, top ten quarterback, 665 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: maybe the top five quarter of all time, having the 666 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: right team around him. It's seems like they do this time. 667 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: And that's why I am I'm with you. I think 668 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: it's a referendum on the on the coaching staff. Uh, 669 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: get something done, win the twelve games, get the home games, 670 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: and give yourself a clear path. I think last year, 671 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: you're right, there was a lot of uncertainty, especially in 672 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: the running game. And you're right, they have everything out 673 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: on the offense for the most part. I mean time Ongomery. 674 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: He's not exactly the guy you really want to run 675 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: handball off too, but he's still effective. I think it 676 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: comes down to how their secondary plays in these situations, 677 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: because early in the season last year they struggled. I 678 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: mean they were really bad for about a five game stretch. 679 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: It's what got them beat. I mean, there are you 680 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: know they there offense I think was good enough to 681 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl last year. It was that those 682 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: that secondary, that defense bounced back with a with a 683 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: similar good stretch later in the year. But ultimately, their 684 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: defense in a division where you'd like to see that 685 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: has never been a great strength. And you can Tom 686 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: Caper's essentially a nuclear bomb could land on Green Bay 687 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: and he would he would still be walking around on 688 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: Lamb hero. It's definitely by the way, you are interested 689 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: in Aaron Rodgers and I've always found him to be 690 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: a fascinating figure in the league. Mina Kimes of ESPN 691 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: just wrote a feature that is well worth your time 692 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: and it really gives you a interest, really good look 693 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: at what the man behind the mask the mustache is 694 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: all about. The mustache. Lose the mustache, by the way, 695 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: come on, keep the mask. Let's talk about the Minnesota Vikings. 696 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: All right, new new season, same question. Do the Vikings 697 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: have enough offensive firepower to keep up in the NFC North? Okay, 698 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: so then the preseason not gonna set the Vikings fans 699 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: minds at ease. The first team offense of Sam Bradford 700 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: at the Controls did not score a touchdown in the 701 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: final three games of the preseason. The offensive line is 702 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: subpar or has been a subpar, both in the running 703 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: and in past protection game. There are things to be 704 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: concerned about on this offense. And when your division has 705 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: guys like Matt Stafford and Aaron Rodgers in it, you've 706 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: got to score points. Is this a death blow? Mm 707 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: hmm their offensive issues. I that's another team that watching 708 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: Bradford not a lot of time to throw attempt after attempt, 709 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: And it's another team like Washington where you where you 710 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: thought a year ago you went out and got that 711 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: alpha wide receiver, the guy that was gonna lead your team. 712 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: Instead you have the Kwan Treadwell who's not progressing and 713 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: maybe I'll do something this year. He might at least 714 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: he might. I mean, I liked Dalvin Cooks so far, 715 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: but it's the office. It's another team that's gonna need 716 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: to hold teams to fourteen fifteen points a game. That 717 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: just doesn't work in the NFL. So it doesn't. It 718 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: didn't find ways to score more than that. It's true 719 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: because the teams that build around defense, like the Vikings, 720 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: defense is less predictable. First of all, you know, if 721 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: you have a great offense, you're great every year like 722 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: the normally, and it's it's there. Aren't That mean? There 723 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: weren't any defenses that were really that big of a 724 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: difference maker last year. I mean, the Vikings had ultimately 725 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: a disappointing season considering all the talent they had defensively. 726 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: I hate to keep sounding like that broken record here, 727 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 1: but this is a team that wins and loses based 728 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: on how it tackles play because they I mean, Bradford 729 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: has no time to throw. They had nowhere to run 730 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: last year, and they look exactly the same in the preseason. 731 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons why I kind of liked 732 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: how Bradford. I thought Bradford had his best season overall, 733 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: that his best two seasons really are the last two 734 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: and Billy in Minnesota, that I think he's shown some 735 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: progress that if you can help him, that he'll be 736 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: a solid enough starter for you. I don't want to 737 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: put this type of pressure on the kid, but uh, 738 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: once upon a time, Randy Moss came into came into 739 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: the league, took it by storm, and transformed the entire 740 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: Vikings offense. David Cook has gotten a lot of good reviews, 741 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: rave reviews. Uh, he's replacing a legend and Adrian Peterson obviously, 742 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: maybe make sure to use Peterson as the example since 743 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: he's also running back and Cook is replacing him. But 744 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: we're past that now. Cook could he be a potential 745 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: guy that shoots out of the box and as a 746 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: monster contributor and solves a lot of issues for him. 747 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: I think he does a lot well. I mean, he 748 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: catches the ball, he's on, he's in every down kind 749 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: of race. They have good players on their offense, like 750 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: Rudolph and Feeling, who's now playing the almost exclusively, and 751 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs. But all of these guys, they're not top 752 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: ten guy. It's kind of like they're kind of like 753 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: the Sam Bradford's of their position. It's a lot of 754 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: guys that are in the middle, but there's not a 755 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: lot of guys that are at the top. And that's 756 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: not gonna be good enough. Ultimately, what are we hearing 757 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: on the Kuan Treadwell, by the way, is he gonna 758 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: be a He's playing this year, so that's different, like 759 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: he's gonna be starting. We'll see what happened to them 760 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: last year. Alright, Moving on next the Detroit Lions. The 761 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: Lions had a hot start to the preseason, destroying the 762 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: Colts and perhaps finding a new weapon in wide receiver 763 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay. Uh. Since then, Uh, they've had some bad 764 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: things happened. They lost defensive end Carrie Hyder for the season. 765 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: Golladay has been a non factor since then, and Zeke 766 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 1: Ansa still hasn't played. He's supposedly on track to play 767 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: Week one. A lot of guys like that right now, 768 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: they oh, they haven't practice, but he's gonna play week one, 769 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: which I can understand, especially a week four, what's the 770 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: reason to play them? I won't believe it until I 771 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: see them on the field or off the inactive list 772 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: come Sunday. I think another position that they need to 773 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: really play well in the absence of Taylor Decker is 774 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: the left tackle spot. UM Greg Robinson they've brought in 775 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 1: to try to alleviate it, and that's yeah, I mean, 776 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: we we know what you can get out of him 777 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: or can't get out of him. Uh. And also offensively, 778 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: what are they going to get out of Amir Abdullah 779 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: Because he's a guy who's got a lot of talent 780 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: and you can see it in him, but he hasn't 781 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: necessarily produced that so far, and I think that goes 782 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 1: a long way to how they succeed offensively. Um. Defensively, 783 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: I think they're a little thin upfront. We kind of 784 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, already covered that, but on the back end 785 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: they should be Okay. They were one of the worst 786 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: defenses in the league last year, so there's really nowhere 787 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: to go but up. Abdulah is a guy that jumps 788 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: out to me because yeah, we've been talking about him 789 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: for a couple of years now. In terms of being 790 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: a guy that can be a real big time playmaker, 791 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: and they, let's face it, they need somebody to come 792 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: in there, whether it's on the offensive or defensive side 793 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: of the ball and kind of electrify that place a 794 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: little bit because they're kind of just they just exist 795 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: right now. The lines. I was waiting for for that 796 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: take because I think the Lions have gotten a lot 797 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 1: of grief in this room. You thought they're just lazy 798 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: for good reason. Training campla get to camp. I've gotta 799 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: here's a hot take. This is a fun offense to watch. 800 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: I enjoyed watching them last year and they should be 801 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: more fun. Matthew Stafford is a fun quarterback to watch. 802 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: Mira Abdullah is a fun quarter is a fun running 803 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: back to watch. If you can stay on the field, 804 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: he's exciting. Marvin Jones has a lot of potential. Didn't 805 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: quite stay consistent, but he's had a good preseason. Golden 806 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: Tate's long been one of my favorite holiday here was 807 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:44,439 Speaker 1: making some HIGHLIGHTSS got a little bit of joke. Gotta 808 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 1: do it too. I don't know about that last part, 809 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: but here's the thing. Matthew Stafford, who had mechanical issues 810 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, left and right. His whole career very frustrating 811 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: to watch. I do think we love Jim Bob Cooner 812 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: in this room. Guy actually has made a change with 813 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford and there isn't up and up, But I 814 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: is that narrative still happening. I think it is a 815 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: different quarterback under him. When you open up your profile 816 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: on a team, though, with roughly seven or eight burning questions, 817 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: that's not a great thing. Most of them, most of 818 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: them with not as clear answer. They're they're defensively for 819 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,760 Speaker 1: the most part. Now they have a couple of second 820 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 1: year guys a Sean Robinson's had a really good training camp. 821 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: They're actually gonna start. Anthony Zette, a sixth round pick, 822 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: is taken over. Why not. They have some young guys 823 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: coming up that if they can emerge, Robinson especially seven 824 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,959 Speaker 1: and nine. They also took down their playoff banners. Yeah, 825 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: that's fabric is like a hundred years old at this point. Mojo, alright, no, 826 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:43,839 Speaker 1: if you made the playoffs, they okay, sorry, sorry, sorry, alright, 827 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears close out the division. Mark alright, little 828 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: sandwiches bet here, alright, we can how how deep you 829 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: get into the Bears without talking to sandwich propositions. What 830 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,720 Speaker 1: week does Mitchell Drobiskie make his first start? I'm tired 831 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: of hearing about this red shirt nonsense. John Fox is 832 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: the potential issue there because we don't know what he 833 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: thinks about quarterbacks. But started off shook, what week for 834 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: a sandwich? Well, first off, you're the captain of playing 835 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: every rookie quarterback. Yes, I am red red shirt. Preventing 836 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: the inevitable red certain quarterbacks is on Mark's radar because 837 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: it does like I like this, Brassy Mark, stand up, 838 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: be Brassy Mark. How many games does he does he start? Well? Now, 839 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: what what week do we first see him? Whoever gets 840 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: you can even you can split a sandwich if you 841 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: want to pick the same week week three, So okay, 842 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: I don't call that a red shirt. I'll hold off ahead. 843 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the schedule here, seeing you know the 844 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: the defenses they play early aren't aren't the tops. I'm 845 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: gonna go week five. Let's unveil him for a nice 846 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: Monday night game against the Viking. No, no, no, no, 847 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna do the classic. Hey, we want to get 848 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 1: the kid ready during the bye week, and then they'll 849 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: roll them out Week ten against the Ackers, and then 850 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: you're pretty nineteen million dollar investment at least gets half 851 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,959 Speaker 1: a season before they say, oh, he's not the guy. 852 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: That's my prediction there. It's a weird situation because Glennon 853 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: and Trabinsky when he ultimately plays, has a really good 854 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: offensive line in front of him and potentially a good 855 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: running game. So those are good things for a quarterback, 856 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: and maybe a decent defense. But but I would say 857 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: the worst wide receiver group now that Cam Meredith is 858 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 1: out for the season in the entire NFL, Kendall Wright 859 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: is their number one receiver. And I haven't seen a 860 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: quarterback or at least remember when in recent memory who 861 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: was a free agent signing who lost so much momentum 862 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: so quickly, Like yeah, and you know what, the the 863 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: teams that don't give their quarterbacks any receivers, you don't 864 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: really give him a chance because they don't get the 865 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: guys that you play don't get separation. And if you, 866 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: if you, even if your offensive line is good, you 867 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: end up being in a situation when you're holding onto 868 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: the ball that leads to trouble. You gotta give your 869 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: guy at least one weapon and alshon Jeffrey type. You 870 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: don't give him anything. You're done, alright, You guys are 871 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: all picking very smartly. You know, at least a couple 872 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: of weeks into the season. I think he's taking snaps 873 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,439 Speaker 1: by the end of week one, and he starts week 874 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: two against the Bucks. It's happened before. It's happened before. 875 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: And here the one thing when we talked about, well, yeah, 876 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: when we talk about he if he had been a dud, 877 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: then you can't just bring him. But you don't go 878 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: six weeks into a season if you're John Fox and 879 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: you're Owen five and you don't try that that quarterback. 880 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's very likely a possibility. Their defense 881 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: could be really good. We we have no idea of 882 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: pronoum if he's even gonna play, but their defense could be. 883 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: They could be good and still go one and four. Though. 884 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: Who would have thought. Though Trabinsky and Kaiser were the 885 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: two rookie quarterbacks, everyone got jazz up about this preseason. 886 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,959 Speaker 1: Jeff We all got the Packers winning the division. Yeah, 887 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: no other playoffs? Okay, yeah, alright, move moving on to 888 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: the NFC South Grade. Get us goal with the Saints, 889 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints have been needing a good rookie 890 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: class for a while. They needed to get younger, they 891 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: needed to get it faster, and we'll see if they 892 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: actually are good. But they're gonna be playing a lot 893 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 1: of rookies this year. Three starters on the defense, Uh, 894 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: that's gonna be playing as rookies. Marcus Lattimore who's looked good, Um, 895 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: who am I forgetting? Marcus Williams who's looked good at safety? 896 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: And Alex And I wasn't sure exactly about the pronunciation there, 897 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: How does it go? It's Anzaloni Aloni. Let me hear 898 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,800 Speaker 1: it again. There we go. He's the new gyros bird. 899 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,720 Speaker 1: He's moving around, and watch out for a J. Klein. 900 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: Watch out for a J. Klein, not a rookie free 901 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: agent pick up from Carolina who looked really good in 902 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: the preseason. One of their beat writers, who does a 903 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: great job, Nick Underhill, said he's the best linebacker he 904 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: thinks it's been on the Saints in the last four years. 905 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 1: We haven't seen this guy because he was Luke Kickley's 906 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 1: back up, but when he played late last year really 907 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 1: made a difference for them and he could really help 908 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: the Saints defense. I don't want to put too much 909 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: weight in the preseason. Have to say that with every 910 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: comment I make about what happened in the last month. 911 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: But if this is the Saints defense that Sean Payton 912 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: should have begun to rebuild about half a decade ago, 913 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: thank you for finally doing it. They look interesting. If 914 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 1: they could just be average, that's their formula. Let's get 915 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: an average they could be a playoff team, and then 916 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: we can be a playoff team with an average defense. 917 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: How does the backfield shakedown there? I'm very interesting because 918 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 1: you've got three guys, including the kid who seemed to 919 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: be ready to to get work. You figure Adrian Peterson 920 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: is gonna get a shot at this to be the 921 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: primary guy, but maybe not. How do we see it 922 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 1: chacking out? I don't even know what what they've done 923 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: in the preseason. It doesn't matter. They pulled Peterson down 924 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 1: by the goal line for Ingram. I think Alvin Kamara. 925 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how you keep on the field. Camar 926 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: is gonna play a lot in that Reggie Bush Darren 927 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: Sprowls type of role, and I think Ingram and Peterson 928 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: split the snaps. Otherwise, I think they're gonna be kind 929 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: of try to be a more run first type of team. 930 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: We have our part two of the Fantasy Extravaganza on Friday. 931 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: I feel like the Saints are a um fantasy Bermuda 932 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,919 Speaker 1: triangl a position. Is that fair to say? Yeah? That's 933 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: after having taken out Tomorrow late in the draft last night. 934 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: I liked pictures, Yeah, but we don't. Yeah. I like 935 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: the running back situation. I like that we went there. Um. 936 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna shake out between Ingram 937 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: and Peterson, though some people have talked maybe Peterson ends 938 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: up being the guy more than Ingram. But how do 939 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: you do that to a guy who rushed for over 940 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: a thousands last year. That's a fantasy problem, though. I 941 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: think that's a great thing for Ingram exactly a lot 942 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,879 Speaker 1: to be healthy. Neither is Peterson. Well, they can also 943 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: as a direct result of all the talent they have 944 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: in the backfield, this is gonna be the year where 945 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 1: they kind of tone it down a little bit. With 946 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,720 Speaker 1: Drew Brees. I think they're gonna throw for five thousand 947 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 1: yards again with all those weapons in the backfield. I 948 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,280 Speaker 1: think you're getting Max Unger back at center fairly early 949 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,479 Speaker 1: in the season. It sounds like, yeah, I I think 950 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: their talents at running back they got Michael Thomas, but 951 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: it's not the deepest receiver group that they've had after 952 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas. Defense right up to the end with the 953 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: Saints when the when the horn goes off, got to move. 954 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm feeling all right, is it fair to it is fair? 955 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: I will say, I'm not even ask you, it is 956 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 1: fair to wonder if Matt Ryan and the Falcons offense 957 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: will take a step back under Steve Sarkisian. Uh. Biggest 958 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: thing about it Kyle Shanahan last year it was essentially 959 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: the equivalent of a perfect game in baseball. Uh, the 960 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 1: way he handled himself and and ran that offense last year, 961 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 1: He's gone, Um, how concerned should Falcons fans be? Uh? 962 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: If that this offense is simply just not going to 963 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,240 Speaker 1: be the same, because you never want to be Sarks, 964 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 1: Like we said in the show, you never want to 965 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: be the guy that follows the guy. You want to 966 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 1: be the guy that follows the guy that follows the guy. 967 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 1: I think they're I think they were. You know, Shanahan 968 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 1: had a perfect game up until like the bottom of 969 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,399 Speaker 1: the ninth when the Patriots hit like a home run 970 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 1: out of the park to win it. But I will 971 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: say that Bowl Greg just said this, Oh, let's take 972 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 1: a look at the numbers for we assassinate their offensive 973 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl three drives, three, three scoring drives out 974 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 1: of tend. Their lowest scoring per drive except for one 975 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 1: game all season was one of that Ryan takes a sack, 976 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: that kick a field goal and they win. Yeah. They 977 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: also they also created some way us defense stays the same. 978 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: You can is more predicted to stay the same or 979 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: offense from from year to year. And what's been taken 980 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: away from this attack the their offensive line is what 981 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: I loved last year to the way they rebuilt that 982 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: you have all the same weapons and the actual scheme 983 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,760 Speaker 1: from what we've seen in the preseason looks very similar. 984 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,280 Speaker 1: So my I'm optimistic in terms of reaching statistical heights 985 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: that you that they did last year that it was 986 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 1: never gonna happen with Kyle Shanne. They almost are underrated 987 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: for how good they were. They scored the second most 988 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: amount of points per drive in NFL history. Only the 989 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: two thousand seven Patriots were better than the Falcons. So 990 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: they were gonna take a step back that's just that's 991 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 1: just natural. But I think the defense very young we've 992 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 1: talked about on the show. I like their talent. I 993 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 1: think that makes up for it because their defense is 994 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 1: pretty bad. So if their defense can improve to above average, 995 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: that makes up for the offensive. The client. I think 996 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 1: the Prime to win the NFC South and and that's 997 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: really probably the easiest prediction you can make in this 998 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,839 Speaker 1: entire show. But considering they won the conference last year, 999 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: but they haven't really lost much, like you guys said, 1000 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 1: I mean, the first person I can think of offensively 1001 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: who they lost, it's fullback Patrick DeMarco. Like that's how 1002 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 1: far down you have to go. And I also love 1003 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: how they're often spreads it to so many different targets 1004 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 1: that it really doesn't matter because so many guys are 1005 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,919 Speaker 1: gonna catch balls, are gonna get handed, you know, gonna 1006 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,839 Speaker 1: get carries that you know, it doesn't really matter if 1007 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 1: you lost a guy or it's probably injuries alone that 1008 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,240 Speaker 1: would sink them. I think this is the best division 1009 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: in football. I think any one of these four teams 1010 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: could win the division and it shouldn't be a shock. 1011 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,720 Speaker 1: And I think this division has a chance to sneak 1012 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: three teams into the playoffs. Even though they got to 1013 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 1: play each other, they also get to play the a 1014 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: f C East and get those wins over those dregs 1015 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 1: like the Bills and the Jets. I love this division. 1016 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: It's back, um okay. I appreciate the optimism. Greg. I 1017 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: will say that they did lose something, Nick shook and 1018 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: let's I'm not joking. Don't say to Georgia dun they 1019 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 1: lost their innocence in that Super Bowl, and I believe 1020 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: in the hangover that I buy in Nip the Bucks, 1021 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,280 Speaker 1: you know, well they did gain a giant bird outside 1022 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 1: the stadium, dude. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, well they've been 1023 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: the darling of Hard Knocks this year and so we've 1024 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: gotten a pretty uh close look at how things go 1025 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 1: down there the radio. Everyone gather around, we're going to 1026 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: talk about the Bucaneers. Uh. John Gruden had a moment, 1027 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 1: I think on the third episode of Hard Knocks where 1028 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 1: he looked at Jamison a production meeting and said, what 1029 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 1: more do you need? You got two good tight ends, 1030 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 1: you got all these receivers, you got you know, good 1031 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 1: running backs, you got a pretty good offensive line. What 1032 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: more do you need? Well? I think Jamis Winston is 1033 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 1: primed to have his best season yet. You could say 1034 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: I'm on the hype train, But when I look at 1035 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 1: that roster and and yeah, they struggled last week in 1036 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 1: the preseason, Um, they have all the pieces that they 1037 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,919 Speaker 1: need to be successful. It comes down to Winston though, 1038 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: because every once in a while he makes one of 1039 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 1: those bone headed plays deep in the red zone when 1040 00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,800 Speaker 1: he's getting pulled down by a defender and throws the 1041 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,320 Speaker 1: in the air. He's got to cut down on those. 1042 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I don't know if he's 1043 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: going to get rid of that, and I don't know 1044 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 1: if he totally needs to. He's never gonna be Tom 1045 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: Brady and maybe he's not gonna be here and like, 1046 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 1: but there's been some great quarterbacks that throw some interceptions. 1047 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: You know, you can be Philip Rivers, you can be 1048 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 1: Eli Manning, you can be Joe Namath certainly, you know, 1049 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: you can be Brett Farve, like a lot of guys, 1050 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: a lot of great quarterbacks through a lot of interceptions. Yeah, 1051 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: and yeah, he might always be that guy. I don't 1052 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 1: think he's gonna not be that guy this year. I 1053 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: think he's gonna drive Tor cutter crazy occasionally we've seen 1054 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 1: on Hard Knocks, which is continuing what's been an excellent season. 1055 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: But also keep this in mind, he's still just twenty three, 1056 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 1: so he came into the league so young that we 1057 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: might it might be five years before we see the 1058 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 1: best version of Winston. He's still learning the game and 1059 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: he's a lot of fun to watch. The thing I 1060 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,439 Speaker 1: love about their offense is the pairing of of Mike 1061 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: Evans into Seawan Jackson. I just I love how they 1062 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: kind of compliment each that you've got the short, speedy guy, 1063 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: you got the big, you know guy, I can go 1064 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: get the jump ball, um, you know. And they also 1065 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: love each other a lot, like as in they love themselves. Defense. Yeah, 1066 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 1: I know, it's great entertainment. Uh. The only thing only 1067 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,320 Speaker 1: real concern I have on defense is to stay healthy, 1068 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: and namely Gerald McCoy um, and also the back end 1069 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: Chris Conti and and Keith Tandy are their safeties. And 1070 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,439 Speaker 1: that's kind of one thing no one's really talked about. 1071 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 1: I don't really know what you can I know what 1072 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,799 Speaker 1: I can expect at Chris Conti, which isn't a ton. 1073 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,359 Speaker 1: I don't know about Tandy. He had moments last year. 1074 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: The most tired uh item I heard all offseason was 1075 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: this business that Doug Martin might not be the starter 1076 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 1: when he comes back. If he looks the way that 1077 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 1: he's looked, then that's the key to their offense too, 1078 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 1: not just Jamis Winston. That ground game when they had 1079 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: essentially the the NFC's best pair two years ago. If 1080 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 1: you can have that to to center your passing game around, 1081 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: they can score points and make up for Chris Conti 1082 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 1: and the rest of the issues. They might have stood 1083 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 1: out as much as any player in the preseason for 1084 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 1: having that juice, like he was exciting close out the division. 1085 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler with a panther biggest question for me in 1086 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,799 Speaker 1: Carolina and I need your guys opinion on this. What 1087 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: have you seen out of six round and Alexander Arma, 1088 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: I've seen great burst uh a knack for his surroundings 1089 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 1: and maturity. What position does he play? I think Dan 1090 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: wrapped that up. Let's go in a different direction. Christian McCaffrey, 1091 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: I think the most exciting, one of the most exciting 1092 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 1: players we've seen in the preseason by far. He's basically 1093 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: or they've already put his name on the offensive Rookie 1094 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 1: of the Year award barring some sort of issues. But 1095 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 1: let's I like mix in two. But I'm just saying 1096 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 1: McCaffrey has those plays that are gonna be you know, 1097 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna be on NFL dot com all week long. 1098 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 1: Already can see it happening over under a plug for 1099 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,799 Speaker 1: my employer. I am good at that. Um here's my 1100 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: over under line yards on the ground, five hundred through 1101 00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 1: the air, ten total touchdowns total. You are some scrimmage 1102 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 1: and double digit touchdowns. That, first of all, is barring 1103 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 1: Kaiser or somebody else blowing up. That is offensive for 1104 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,399 Speaker 1: Key of the Year in production. I don't see why 1105 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,959 Speaker 1: it can't happen. I think they're gonna make a real 1106 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,480 Speaker 1: effort to protect cam this year. Uh and with the 1107 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,400 Speaker 1: shoulder issue and also just that he's been beat up 1108 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 1: a lot in the last few years. And getting McCaffrey 1109 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: the ball in space quickly giving him the rock along 1110 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 1: with Stewart, I think I I could see him producing 1111 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 1: at that level overs across the board also drafted him 1112 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: over for yards and and catches, but under for touchdown 1113 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 1: it's a lot of touchdown Like for a little guy 1114 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 1: get down. I think he's gonna have a game where 1115 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 1: he scores four. He's gonna have one game that year 1116 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,319 Speaker 1: where he scores four, and it it boost the whole thing. 1117 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 1: They're they're a little like the Redskins that they haven't 1118 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 1: practiced much together, so that you kind of expect them 1119 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: to come into the season a little slow. I mean, 1120 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 1: Cam most notably hasn't really practiced, and then Curtis Samuel 1121 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: also hasn't been on the field, So I don't know 1122 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: if they come out of the gates being their best offense. 1123 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: Anybody spooked it all by Ron Rivera when they asked, 1124 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 1: you know, what do you expect to see from Cam? 1125 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 1: And he's like, nobody knows. It's like when he was 1126 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 1: a rookie. Uh, you know, we'll know when when the 1127 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: season starts. I mean, it was very honest, but it's 1128 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,879 Speaker 1: also kind of like a little bit telling, like he's 1129 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,319 Speaker 1: leaving the window open that Cam might not look like 1130 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 1: the guy from two thousand fifteen at all. No one 1131 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,400 Speaker 1: seen him throw a pass down the field yet, and 1132 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 1: he's barely practiced with his team. But this team, this 1133 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 1: Panthers team, wouldn't shock me if they get a buy 1134 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,799 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I think that these four teams have 1135 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 1: such a high ceiling if things go right, because the 1136 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: defense is so good on paper. I think they love 1137 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,359 Speaker 1: those two young cornerbacks Bradberry especially. They still have the 1138 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 1: great linebacker group and that pass rush on the end 1139 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,879 Speaker 1: and now Kwan short and load lately in the middle 1140 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 1: like that. It's about as deep a pass rush and 1141 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 1: as solid a defense. I think Ron Rivera loves this defense. 1142 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: You could see this division with a thirteen and three 1143 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: and eleven and five and a nine and seven. You 1144 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,799 Speaker 1: guys are really that doesn't happen very often. Well, it's 1145 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,319 Speaker 1: hard to predict who's gonna take it because there's so many, 1146 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 1: so much reason for each one. I just think they 1147 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 1: all have a really high ceiling. Like there's a lot 1148 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 1: of potential on all these teams, Like four of the 1149 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 1: best seven or eight teams in the in This is 1150 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 1: Gregg's golden period. This has been his division for a 1151 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 1: long time. I was gonna fall on their face. Picked 1152 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:22,719 Speaker 1: the division real quick, mark Atlanta Atlanta Buccaneers with a 1153 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,959 Speaker 1: wild card. I got Atlanta against my better judgment. Perhaps 1154 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm sticking with the Falcons any any I have bucks 1155 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 1: wild car old card teams. Oh yes, I do. Actually 1156 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,560 Speaker 1: I have Tampa Bay get and I'm gonna go Falcons repeat, 1157 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 1: and Saints get into the playoffs. Let's close it. Look 1158 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,319 Speaker 1: thinking of throwing all three. But you've picked all your team. 1159 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: You picked the Eagles, and you picked the Saints, all 1160 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 1: the Greg tent posts. Hey, he a news flash. We 1161 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,879 Speaker 1: don't actually know what we're doing when we're predicting. Why 1162 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,399 Speaker 1: not predict something you want. Let's move to the NFC West, 1163 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,360 Speaker 1: get us go and Greg with the Seahawks. I have 1164 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 1: to go again. I thought we were done forgot about 1165 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 1: the West entirely all right, Just like the Green Bay 1166 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 1: Packers have timed it well in terms of their offense. 1167 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,800 Speaker 1: I believe this is a big season for the Seattle 1168 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: Seahawks in that you are timing Russell Wilson's peak quarterback 1169 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: play with the very end of this defense. Having stayed 1170 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 1: together for so long, Cam Chancellor, Earl Thomas, Richard Sherman, 1171 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 1: kJ Wright, Bobby Wagner, Cliff Avriel, and Michael Bennett have 1172 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 1: been teammates together on the same team for five straight years. 1173 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 1: You don't see that this is the greatest defense of 1174 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 1: the century in terms of staying together over a long period, 1175 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 1: and I don't think it's close. It's one of the 1176 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 1: best defenses of all time. So to me, they they 1177 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 1: have an absolute chance to go win the Super Bowl 1178 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 1: this year. When you have Wilson at this peak and 1179 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 1: you still have this defense together one last I think 1180 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 1: you've hit the nail on the head. Greg. It's the 1181 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 1: same we if you go to NFL dot com, nice plug, Mark, 1182 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 1: we have all on the website. Uh. And I said, 1183 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 1: I feel the Seahawks have one last big run in 1184 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 1: them with this core and this everything seems to be 1185 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 1: a line for that to happen. Where Russell Wilson is 1186 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,959 Speaker 1: at the apex of his powers and healthy and looking 1187 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 1: like Wilson, the defense together and still in their prime, 1188 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 1: one last big run. I see it happening. I think 1189 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks are a super Bowl favorite to me. 1190 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 1: You guys, they're consistent. I mean they are one of 1191 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 1: the teams that you can look at every year and say, yeah, 1192 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 1: that they'll be there. And it's because of that core. 1193 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 1: Like you said, the one question I really have for 1194 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 1: them and how far they'll go is on the left 1195 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: tackle because they lost George Fan and I just want 1196 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 1: to know how they replace him. That's a great question problem. 1197 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 1: But you never knew if he was gonna be I 1198 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 1: mean he he really struggled last year. Now you now 1199 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 1: you have a young guy. You gotta see You're right, 1200 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 1: it's a huge question mark. I've been a line last 1201 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,560 Speaker 1: year or a couple of years. Like last year, the 1202 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 1: line caused Russell Wilson's breakdown in health and it completely 1203 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 1: disrupted that offense. That needs to be a markedly better situation. 1204 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: I will say, of all all these players that went 1205 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,439 Speaker 1: and got in shape in the offseason and I did 1206 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 1: this and that with my diet, Russell Wilson showed it 1207 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 1: on the field. He looks like a physically different person. 1208 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 1: He looks faster, he looks fully healthy. So you you're 1209 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 1: getting him from full go, and we you're hoping Paul 1210 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 1: Richardson stays healthy. You're not sure what you're gonna get 1211 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 1: out of lock it. But it's a deep backfield right now. 1212 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 1: This guy Chris Carson. Every year West talks about who's 1213 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 1: gonna be the rando that shows up in the preseason. 1214 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 1: Chris Carson runs on the field like he's batman. I mean, 1215 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 1: he's not built like a normal running back, and I 1216 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 1: just love the way he runs. He's fun to watch. 1217 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 1: Between him and Rawls, I think that's gonna be so basically, 1218 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 1: it's every year for the Seahawks they get one of 1219 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 1: these guys though. Basically, Greg, and just cut another shot 1220 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 1: of you in the monitor for some reason when you're 1221 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,840 Speaker 1: in the middle of a point and it's just it's amazing. 1222 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,960 Speaker 1: All right, let's move. I'll talk about the Arizona Cardinals. Alright. 1223 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 1: The basic question, can the Cardinals protect their old man QB? 1224 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 1: Carson Hammers showed him the second half of last season 1225 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 1: that he could still will sling. It's for ball jargon, 1226 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 1: but it'll be thirty eight in December. He's an injury risk. 1227 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 1: We know that the offensive line has been suspect for 1228 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 1: a while. Now. You know we were talking who is 1229 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 1: the bad lineman we were talking about earlier that they're 1230 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 1: putting a lot of faith in the tackle, Greg Robinson, 1231 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Greg Robinson, how about a little DJ Humphries protecting Carson 1232 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Palmer's blind side? Is this all a recipe for disaster? 1233 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 1: Drew Stanton warming up on the sideline? What I mean 1234 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 1: you're asking us to predict if if if it feels 1235 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,480 Speaker 1: if you'll last, which I think it's tough to do. Uh, 1236 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 1: you took basically my move there. I I will say this, 1237 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 1: I think there is a lot to be hopeful about 1238 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 1: in Arizona on defense, which in terms of him d 1239 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 1: J and guys like Honey Badger that looked completely refreshed 1240 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:51,000 Speaker 1: and new. This this this preseason offense, there were issues connecting. 1241 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 1: I think it boils down to John Brown being John Brown. 1242 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 1: He was right away, had a couple of touchdowns in 1243 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 1: the last game. That's definitely got them excited. It's an 1244 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 1: interesting last stand type of season because you feel like 1245 01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 1: it's this might be it for Palmer, might be it 1246 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 1: for Fitzgerald, might be it for Arians. That's a lot. 1247 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 1: It's a lot of pressure to put on a team. 1248 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 1: I watched Bruce Arians body langu which in the preseason 1249 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 1: so far and even in his press conferences. He's never 1250 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 1: a cheery guy, but I could almost feel him sweating already. 1251 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 1: I think he knows the gravity of the season. You 1252 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 1: know what I love though about this team, and I 1253 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 1: was I've been saying their playoff team all off season. 1254 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 1: I was thinking of jumping off it for one of 1255 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 1: these n NFC South teams. But then I looked at 1256 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 1: the schedule and you get the forty niners in the Rams, 1257 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 1: who are a little better, but that's four games, and 1258 01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 1: you get the a f C South out of division. 1259 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 1: That's a big time edge to the Seahawks and the 1260 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals in terms of trying to boost up that wind total. 1261 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 1: Those are all very winnable games. Four games against the 1262 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 1: a f C South for the Cardinals, and that's why 1263 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 1: I think they'll be a wild card team. David Johnson 1264 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 1: is also an m VP candidate, obviously, and I know, Greg, 1265 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 1: I think I think you wrote in that preview piece 1266 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 1: the idea that he could have a one thousand, one 1267 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 1: thousand season in him. Potentially. You're dealing with that type 1268 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 1: of talent in the backfield. So if you have if 1269 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 1: you have Carson Palmer healthy, when you have a weapon 1270 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 1: like that, if John Brown's healthy, if Lair Frittell does 1271 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,080 Speaker 1: another year in the tank. There are a lot of 1272 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 1: ifs in play here. If Honey Badger really does get 1273 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 1: back to where he was, if Kim DJ actually lives 1274 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 1: up to his draft standing this year. A lot of 1275 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 1: things I feel like have to go right, and sometimes 1276 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 1: I feel like their window did close two seasons ago 1277 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,800 Speaker 1: and we're still keeping it open a little bit. But 1278 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that this is anything more than a 1279 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 1: nine and seven team. They would have been a nine 1280 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:34,920 Speaker 1: or ten win team last year were they called of 1281 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 1: kicks in a couple of breaks, and that was with 1282 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 1: a lot of things going wrong, And we talked about 1283 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 1: the lines don't have a lot of top tier talent. 1284 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 1: This team has a lot of top tier talent, Like 1285 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 1: their top ten players are about you know, are right 1286 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 1: there with top ten players from from others. And then 1287 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 1: going nine and seven and bowing out or missing the 1288 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:54,440 Speaker 1: playoffs is not a success. Uh Nick shook one of 1289 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 1: the league's laughing stocks last year, the forty Niners. Things 1290 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 1: looking up and that's that look at the man. Uh Yeah, 1291 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 1: two and fourteen last year and pretty ugly to watch. 1292 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 1: For some reason, I ended up with a lot of 1293 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 1: forty Niner games to monitor last year, so I got 1294 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,440 Speaker 1: to know him pretty well and one of my favorite 1295 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 1: guys on the team at the end of the chart. Yeah, 1296 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 1: I understand where I stand. Don't worry. Uh Vance McDonald 1297 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,040 Speaker 1: was one of my favorite guys and he just got traded, 1298 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,520 Speaker 1: so uh that's gonna be a thing that's gonna make 1299 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 1: me sad about the Nighters this year when I watched 1300 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,920 Speaker 1: them again and again and again. Uh. The other exciting 1301 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 1: point from their offense was a backup quarterback who they 1302 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 1: drafted this year in C. J. Bethard, who has the 1303 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,720 Speaker 1: town talking um. But he's not exactly someone I would 1304 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 1: pin my hopes and dreams on either. You know what 1305 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,960 Speaker 1: you get in Brian Hoyer. Um, Kyle Shanahan is going 1306 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,520 Speaker 1: to be the right guy for the job in the 1307 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 1: long run, and I think John Lynch is the right GM. Uh. 1308 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 1: They've kind of taken the whole spaghetti approach and just 1309 01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:55,439 Speaker 1: throwing a lot of it at the wall and seeing 1310 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 1: with sticks. Um. Offensively, they've added some talent in pure 1311 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 1: garsone and Marquis Goodwin and Aldred Robinson. Really didn't d Goodwin, 1312 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 1: but you know Aldred Robbinson. And then the most exciting 1313 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 1: point for them, and I think, uh Connor sticks with 1314 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,959 Speaker 1: me on this is their defense has been really fun 1315 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,440 Speaker 1: to watch. Well. They've drafted well and it's worked out 1316 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 1: with so far with the players they picked. And I 1317 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,440 Speaker 1: think that if you look at a team that can say, 1318 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, maybe the forty Niners. If you're just gonna 1319 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,000 Speaker 1: expect them to go three and thirteen, that script may 1320 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 1: not work because I could see them staying close in 1321 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,760 Speaker 1: certain games. Kyle Shanahan is one of the best play callers, 1322 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,880 Speaker 1: and he already seems to start to have in some 1323 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 1: way the makings not the Falcon's offense, but the type 1324 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:42,760 Speaker 1: of wide receivers, that type of players, their best receivers 1325 01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,560 Speaker 1: practice off season, and then it shows up in the 1326 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 1: absolutely so I could see them this kind of team 1327 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,439 Speaker 1: if you want to see growth, if you want hope. 1328 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,840 Speaker 1: As a forty Niners fan, it's a little ugly out 1329 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,920 Speaker 1: of the gate, you get some flow. Brian Hoyer is 1330 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 1: probably not gonna start every game for you, but he's 1331 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 1: gonna do some good things and bad things, and you 1332 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,400 Speaker 1: win one or two games, maybe in your own division 1333 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 1: down the stretch. That causes problem for some of these 1334 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,600 Speaker 1: upper teams. The Cardinals and the Seahawks, I think the 1335 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 1: two worst teams in the league last year, the Browns 1336 01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 1: of forty. I think both of those teams could surprise 1337 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 1: people and win five to seven games in that range. 1338 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,120 Speaker 1: I think the forty Niners gonna be better because better coaching, 1339 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 1: a better quarterback and an improving defense. I think they're 1340 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,880 Speaker 1: gonna surprise people, and I don't. I think the Browns 1341 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 1: were a much better team than San Francisco last year. 1342 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 1: The forty niners were about as bad as it gets. 1343 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,560 Speaker 1: They were lucky to win two games. They were not competitive. 1344 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,720 Speaker 1: This team will be competitive. They they have really good 1345 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 1: things up front. Seven. I mean, Ruben Foster's has to 1346 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,600 Speaker 1: be one of the favorites for Defensive Rookie of the 1347 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,560 Speaker 1: Year because those guys that just get a hundred tackles 1348 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 1: going sidelines to Island, that's who wins that that awards sometimes. 1349 01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas look good. You've got Rick Armstead, You've got 1350 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 1: a young defense. Their cornerbacks are probably the worst cornerback 1351 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,360 Speaker 1: group in the entire league. So it's still an unfinished 1352 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 1: and unfinished team. I think their defense is exciting for 1353 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 1: them this year, but I think they'll be on the 1354 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,360 Speaker 1: field too much. And that's why I have them winning 1355 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 1: no more than four games. All right, let's pick the 1356 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 1: division real quick, Mark, we're just skipping the Rams. Yeah, 1357 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 1: you just how dare you? You know? It's funny too 1358 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,600 Speaker 1: because it's Alex Wilkes last show behind the Glass video 1359 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,760 Speaker 1: producing so rude that we would skip his team or 1360 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 1: I would skip. I apologize, Mark close us out with 1361 01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:21,200 Speaker 1: l A. Rams. The Rams with another new coaching situation, 1362 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 1: not not that different than than San Francisco, that this 1363 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,680 Speaker 1: isn't one of the most depressing teams in the league 1364 01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 1: like they were last year. But I get a little annoyed, 1365 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 1: and I knew this was gonna happen, and it did. 1366 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,360 Speaker 1: The whole Jared Goff thing. We've talked about it before. 1367 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 1: The expectations are so ultra low that if he went 1368 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,480 Speaker 1: and had like two thirds of the season of Trevor Simeon, 1369 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,080 Speaker 1: they'd be saying, Wow, what a jump? Want a jump? 1370 01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,000 Speaker 1: By the way, this was the number one pick in 1371 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,680 Speaker 1: the draft. Why is it this way? And secondly, what 1372 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,080 Speaker 1: is actually true growth from Jared Goff? I don't want 1373 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,800 Speaker 1: to hear he throws seven touchdowns, but boy, he's getting 1374 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,919 Speaker 1: the ball out quicker. This is the number one pick 1375 01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 1: in last year's draft. I want to talk about what 1376 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:04,960 Speaker 1: is true growth? More touchdowns than interceptions, just looking comfortable, 1377 01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,960 Speaker 1: looking like an NFL quarterback. I think if he had 1378 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 1: a solid season, they'd have to be happy about it. 1379 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:15,680 Speaker 1: He gets it's kind of a sneaky not even sneaky. 1380 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 1: That's a huge season for him because if they face 1381 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,800 Speaker 1: plant for a second straight year, playing in l A 1382 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,200 Speaker 1: for a second year, and they are near the top 1383 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 1: of the first round, could they be tempted to get 1384 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 1: sucked into what's a supposed to be a really great 1385 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 1: quarterback class. I think he would really have to struggle 1386 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,439 Speaker 1: for them to be in that conversation. But crazier things 1387 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,400 Speaker 1: have happened. Uh, We've said it on this podcast. I'm 1388 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what he's what like with the 1389 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 1: real coaching staff and some actual supporting players. But he 1390 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 1: is definitely he hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt 1391 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 1: from anyone yet. I think we're in an era where 1392 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 1: teams aren't afraid to Jennison guys they don't think are 1393 01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,960 Speaker 1: the guy. We just Houston do it with brock oswell 1394 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,680 Speaker 1: that they surrendered a second round pick just to get 1395 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,960 Speaker 1: rid of him, So I like that idea. I think 1396 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,720 Speaker 1: that might be a little extreme right now, since we 1397 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 1: haven't they traded bunch of picks just to get into 1398 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 1: that spot to get him with the first overall pick, 1399 01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,520 Speaker 1: that should buy you more than two years. But the NFL, 1400 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:11,360 Speaker 1: it's an interesting draft class coming up. Sammy Watkins hasn't 1401 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 1: made a big impact in the preseason. That's fine, it's 1402 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,920 Speaker 1: not a big deal. But you do wonder if his 1403 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,439 Speaker 1: deep speed can be taken advantage by Goff, who hasn't 1404 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 1: shown the ability yet to really go vertical or the 1405 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,759 Speaker 1: inclination as much as a guy, let's say, like Kaiser 1406 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,679 Speaker 1: or Robinsky, where I think they're there, they don't show 1407 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 1: that hesitation to pull the trigger, and maybe Jared Goff has. 1408 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 1: To this point, I want to ask wilk as a 1409 01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 1: legitimate RAMS fan, born and raised in so Cal has 1410 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,559 Speaker 1: no microphone, so he's gonna give him a little time, 1411 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:44,960 Speaker 1: So will Where is the expectation of a real RAMS 1412 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 1: fan in l A right now? Pretty low? But I 1413 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 1: think there is hope. I don't I don't think that 1414 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,160 Speaker 1: there is expectations of coming close to a division title, 1415 01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,840 Speaker 1: but I think there's hope to be six and ten, 1416 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 1: which would be an improvement, and then to grow from there. 1417 01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,280 Speaker 1: And you got Wade Phillips, you got Wade of ups 1418 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,679 Speaker 1: and some pretty good defensive pieces. If you get Aaron 1419 01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:08,519 Speaker 1: Donald back, can Jared Goff play? Yeah? A little family 1420 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 1: with faint praiser. All right, pick the division. Now we'll 1421 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,439 Speaker 1: pick the division. Mark, Seattle will win it. No other 1422 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,599 Speaker 1: playoff teams. Yeah, I'm I'm with him on that. Three. 1423 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,320 Speaker 1: I feel like Mark didn't pick. Who are your wild cards? 1424 01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,040 Speaker 1: Did you pick anyone? Philadelphia and Tampa Bay? Yeah? I 1425 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,280 Speaker 1: should wow, Mark and I both. I didn't mention I 1426 01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,840 Speaker 1: have Philadelphia as my other wild Ye, they're the second 1427 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,840 Speaker 1: wild card for me. I love this. Did we agree 1428 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,040 Speaker 1: on every pick? I just don't try to remember what 1429 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 1: I picked for NFL dot Com because last year I 1430 01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,880 Speaker 1: spread my picks over so many different media formats that 1431 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,880 Speaker 1: I was right and wrong. I got the Seahawks win 1432 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:41,680 Speaker 1: in this division and the Cardinals in the playoffs. Mark, 1433 01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,240 Speaker 1: you got the Eagles as a wild card right there? 1434 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,880 Speaker 1: And the Bucks. You said that, right, That's what I said. 1435 01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,839 Speaker 1: All right, good, good job, Mark, you have the Seahawks 1436 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,400 Speaker 1: in the West. How does my Super Bowl pick compared 1437 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,280 Speaker 1: to those NFL dot Com people? They're gonna think this 1438 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 1: guy needs to be fired immediately. Thin already thinking, I 1439 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 1: think you're sticking with your picks this year and the Yeah, 1440 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 1: look at you. Good for you. All right, that's that's progress. 1441 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,840 Speaker 1: That's year one to year two progress. That's at the RAM. 1442 01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,000 Speaker 1: It only took half a decade for me to actually 1443 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 1: stick to something that I saw steady as he goes, 1444 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 1: all right, there we go. Uh So that is our 1445 01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:21,559 Speaker 1: around the NFC, Around the NFC and forty eight minutes. 1446 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 1: A reminder that again, this is our video show. Uh 1447 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,720 Speaker 1: So Tuesday, nine eastern, six thirty uh Pacific. You can 1448 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,760 Speaker 1: check it out at NFL dot com slash a t 1449 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,519 Speaker 1: n video next week. Starting next week, the schedule shifts 1450 01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:40,240 Speaker 1: because the season's beginning, hooray uh and our video show 1451 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 1: and our first podcast of the week will be on Tuesday, 1452 01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,040 Speaker 1: unless you count Sunday Sunday the first day of the 1453 01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:48,880 Speaker 1: week or the last day of the week. I think 1454 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 1: it's the first technically. But before then we still have 1455 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,160 Speaker 1: part two of the Fantasy. Oh yeah, I'm gonna the 1456 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,680 Speaker 1: plugs are still rolling out Greg Friday back. I will 1457 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,400 Speaker 1: not be. I will be in Texas with the wife 1458 01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,400 Speaker 1: doing things uh no, not charity work. Maybe maybe I'll 1459 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,559 Speaker 1: get involved and maybe I won't, but I'll probably be 1460 01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,799 Speaker 1: and my parents or my in laws family reunion outside Austin. 1461 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:17,120 Speaker 1: You guys will carry on and um the Fantasy Extravaganza 1462 01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:21,720 Speaker 1: Part two with special guests. I have no doubt that 1463 01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 1: you will get involved in some sort of charity work 1464 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,880 Speaker 1: down in Texas. Thank you, Thank you for believing in me, 1465 01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 1: Mark putting some pressure on me quite frankly. Um, all right, 1466 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,639 Speaker 1: that's it, Nick Schook, thank you for joining us. Thanks 1467 01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:37,960 Speaker 1: for having beautifully great time, even the whole objectification of 1468 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,880 Speaker 1: my physical being. Yeah, we were going straight up to 1469 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,559 Speaker 1: HR after this. I would say Kevin Patrick should steer 1470 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,640 Speaker 1: clear of the video show, not that I want to 1471 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,320 Speaker 1: negatively impact. Well, he's got the rest of us to 1472 01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,240 Speaker 1: sit next to. Still, this was like the first the 1473 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,720 Speaker 1: first batting practice Shook took as a member. Yeah he's 1474 01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,559 Speaker 1: got a ring as a member of the Shields team. 1475 01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,160 Speaker 1: Now he just comes out there in that for us. 1476 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,759 Speaker 1: You know, batting practice and balls are flying over the fence. 1477 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,519 Speaker 1: Well they certainly are used that, but don't tell anybody that. 1478 01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,759 Speaker 1: All right, let's get let's scrub that from the show. 1479 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,759 Speaker 1: Let's get out of here. This is Dan handsOn signing 1480 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:20,800 Speaker 1: off for the Quiet Storm or Shook, Pepper Spray l 1481 01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,479 Speaker 1: C and Alex Will Can everyone else mind the glass? 1482 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:37,200 Speaker 1: Helping out thanks to everybody until Friday,