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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? John Middlecoff The Three and Out Podcast,

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Speaker 1: brought to you live by the Colin Coward Podcast Network,

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Speaker 1: talking a ton of football, Sam Donald, Hugh Jackson, Todd Hailey,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Freaking Ramsey, uh, even a little John Gruden. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: everyone listening like And I'm also gonna end with the

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Speaker 1: on iTunes subscribe rate and in the review section I

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Speaker 1: will get to him. And if I missed you, I apologize.

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Speaker 1: I didn't mean to. It's not by I didn't do it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't choose to skip you. It's just

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Speaker 1: I'm not a great accountant. You know I missed something,

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Speaker 1: So slide back up in there. If I miss your question,

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Speaker 1: just reissue another one. I will get to it, I promise.

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Speaker 1: Hang my hat on responding to people on social media,

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Speaker 1: That's what I do. But we gotta start with Sam Donald.

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Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot about this, the way I

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Speaker 1: had my quarterbacks. I thought Josh Rosen was just the

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Speaker 1: most pure quarterback talent. I mean, he just looked the

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Speaker 1: most like an NFL player. I thought Baker clearly was

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Speaker 1: really good. I thought he was just a shorter, a

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Speaker 1: what case Keenan was last year, which was damn good

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Speaker 1: and obviously not Drew Brees, but somewhere in there. I

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Speaker 1: think he's a really good player. I would have drafted

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Speaker 1: him in the top ten, not number one overall. But

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald. Sam Donald to me, is special, there is

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Speaker 1: no disputing that. And I think in life, we love

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Speaker 1: to quantify everything. We love to put a numeric value

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Speaker 1: everyone wants to be able to say, uh, there's a

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Speaker 1: tangible value on a player on clearly. We've been doing

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Speaker 1: it forever in business, right I grew up. I didn't

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Speaker 1: grow up in a journalistic world. I grew up in

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Speaker 1: a business first world. My dad was a farmer. He

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Speaker 1: was in business. You're either making money or losing money.

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Speaker 1: Most of his friends businessmen. You're making money, we're losing money.

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Speaker 1: It's black and white. Your salesman is either doing a

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Speaker 1: good job or he's not. It's very it's just on

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Speaker 1: an Excel spreadsheet whatever the hell before Excel spreadsheets were existed,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, like a notepad. US millennials are very spoiled,

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Speaker 1: but you can't like the Excel spreadsheet in a business

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Speaker 1: tells you a lot. Now it doesn't tell you everything.

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Speaker 1: And some people in business would say there is a

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Speaker 1: tangible value or I guess an intangible value of the

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Speaker 1: power of a product, like do you use Apple? For example?

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Speaker 1: just it's actually worth on paper, and as we know,

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Speaker 1: it's worth a shipload on paper. But I say this

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Speaker 1: about people all the time time, like it's really hard

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Speaker 1: had a question last week on the middlecoff mail back,

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Speaker 1: like why do teams struggle so much with hiring the

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Speaker 1: right coach in college or pros? Especially especially in the pros.

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Speaker 1: It's because it's hard to put a numeric value on

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Speaker 1: And listen, I'm biased. I I believe in this guy.

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Speaker 1: How much Matt Naggy did when he was with Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: you know, and you think you meet the guy and

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Speaker 1: I know this. I got my start in college football

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Speaker 1: And to me, moneyball, Billy Bean crushed the scouts, and

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Speaker 1: you can't quantify him in one game, in one film study.

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Speaker 1: You have to watch his entire career. He's a full

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Speaker 1: career guy. And it was only two years. But Sam

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Speaker 1: not your Pete Carroll Trojans in the mid two thousand's

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Speaker 1: Clay Helton's not the alpha on that team. Sam Donald was.

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald just has it. I don't know how to

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Speaker 1: every throw from his first preseason game. You watch it,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's gonna be Tom Brady or Joe

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Speaker 1: who cares? You can overthink it. And the Jets sometimes

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Speaker 1: And I'm in a market that has two teams for

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Speaker 1: this guy is really really good. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald's gonna be really really good. Well, have his

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Speaker 1: and they've had one of the most dominant offenses in

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Speaker 1: the league. How people love to say it's all bad,

426
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Speaker 1: but clearly Todd Haley knows what he's doing. And there

427
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Speaker 1: was a scene last night where Todd Haley looks at

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Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry and kind of called him out a little

429
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Speaker 1: bit almost for his rant in the first episode of

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, like, Bro, you're gonna give this much effort

431
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Speaker 1: and be this big of a team leader when the

432
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Speaker 1: cameras are on, how about do something when the cameras

433
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Speaker 1: are off. See that guy Antonio Callaway that was just

434
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Speaker 1: busted for having a roach in his car and a

435
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Speaker 1: suspended license, how about you take him under your wing?

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Speaker 1: You know what, Because it's pretty clear this guy is

437
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Speaker 1: a baller, so are you, Jarvis, and you're the old

438
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: vet that has his life together. How about you mentor

439
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Speaker 1: this guy? And then he ended it with the icing

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00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: and Cherry on top by going Larry Fitzgerald would smiled

441
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 1: and walked away. I went, damn, that's pretty that's pretty

442
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 1: strong sentiment, because you know where Larry FitzGeralds headed the

443
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. You know what, Larry Fitzgerald is the

444
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Speaker 1: greatest playoff wide receiver I've ever seen, the greatest playoff

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Speaker 1: receiver I've ever seen, Hall of Famer, highest character, one

446
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Speaker 1: of the highest character guys in the league. And Todd

447
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: Haley was right. And then you know what you think,

448
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Speaker 1: you go is Todd Haley gonna be the coach of

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Speaker 1: this team. If I had to go over under right now,

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Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson being the coach week eight of the Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 1: I go under because here's one thing that I know,

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Speaker 1: after watching Hard Knocks and then just watching them play

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Speaker 1: in the preseason game the other night, this seems good

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Speaker 1: like they have a legit roster. If you told me

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid was the head coach of the Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 1: I'd say they'd go nine and seven, ten and six.

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Speaker 1: If you told me they had Kyle Shannahanna, Sean McVeigh,

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Speaker 1: I'd say they're competing to make the playoffs. Pete Carroll,

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlins. This team would be really good, Hugh Jackson,

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Speaker 1: I mean, who knows, but they have no excuse not

461
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Speaker 1: to be competitive. They have obviously excuse not to make

462
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. They have won one game in two years,

463
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Speaker 1: but to not make to not be competitive and not

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Speaker 1: win six seven eight games, this team is stacked like loaded.

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Speaker 1: I watched Tyrod Taylor, their quarterback, who is a solid

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback, make the playoffs with with a much less

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Speaker 1: talented team last year in the Buffalo Bills, and now

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Speaker 1: they also have Baker Mayfield, who, if you watch that

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Speaker 1: first preseason game, has proved to be pretty damn good.

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Speaker 1: This team is good. Excuse me, good is the wrong word?

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Speaker 1: Is talented? Teams become good because they're well coached. And

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Speaker 1: the one consistent theme in Hard Knocks is how undisciplined

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Speaker 1: Hugh is. There is just no discipline. It's why Todd

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Speaker 1: Haley in the first episode when Hugh Jackson told him

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Speaker 1: guys weren't gonna practice, and he starts naming off second

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Speaker 1: and third year players and to Haley goes, those guys

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Speaker 1: are veterans. They need to practice. Miles Garrett got a

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Speaker 1: veterans day off. Miles Garrett's a second year player, veterans

479
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Speaker 1: day off. Not Reggie White, you know he's not Dwight Freeney.

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Speaker 1: You get better in football by practicing. This isn't baseball.

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Speaker 1: You don't play every day. This isn't basketball. You don't

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Speaker 1: play every other day. In football, you practice six times,

483
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Speaker 1: five times more than you play. You practice all the time.

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Speaker 1: That's how you improve. In baseball, you just get through

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Speaker 1: a slump by getting more at bats. In basketball, you

486
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Speaker 1: just get through a shooting slump by shooting. In football,

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Speaker 1: you get through stuff by practicing. It's what makes the

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Speaker 1: sports so unique. I think golf has some parallels of that.

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Speaker 1: You gotta practice a lot to be good at golf,

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Speaker 1: and you also gotta play. Just like football. You gotta play,

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Speaker 1: But practicing is so key. You practice all the time.

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Speaker 1: I mean help the sport originated when it really took

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Speaker 1: off seventies eighties, ninety double days for a month to

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Speaker 1: practices a day for a month in pads. It was hard.

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Speaker 1: It's no longer hard. Now it's practice, walkthrough. But it's

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Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson is a dead man walking. I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: not only Todd Haley, to me, is going to be

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Speaker 1: the interim head coach. I think there is a very

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Speaker 1: very strong chance that Todd Haley is just the future

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Speaker 1: head coach, especially if Baker Mayfield were to come in

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Speaker 1: and look good. And if that happens, I might have

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Speaker 1: to chime in and write something about it. And if

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Speaker 1: I do, you can find me on the Athletic because

504
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Speaker 1: the Athletic is where I do all my sports reading. Listen.

505
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Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm biased. I've written for him since

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Speaker 1: the San Francisco UH group came out. We started in August.

507
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Speaker 1: But when you subscribe to the site zero ads, and

508
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Speaker 1: anyone knows that tries to read any article on the internet,

509
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: every paragraph, ad, pop up video, you can't get through it.

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Speaker 1: It's on arable. That's a great part about the Athletic.

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Speaker 1: You subscribe zero ads, zero at, you read anything you

512
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Speaker 1: want ABLAS. It's incredible. All you get is sports content.

513
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: Over seventeen NFL teams covered you like baseball? I know

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00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: I like reading about baseball. Guess who they had, Ken Rosenthal,

515
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: Jason Stark, Peter Gammon's you ever heard of him? Pretty

516
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 1: sure he's a Hall of Famer. So if anything about baseball,

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Speaker 1: you can read from those guys on the Athletic dot Com.

518
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Speaker 1: Slash J Middle covers hockey, covers a ton of college football,

519
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: Stewart Mandel, Bruce Feldman to the best in the business. Uh.

520
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: And it also gives you unique angles, like you're not

521
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: gonna where are you gonna find a former NFL scout

522
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: writing like myself not to problem myself, but but it's

523
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: just the truth. Videos. I mean, you get everything you want.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm telling you about the Cleveland site. Dustin Fox

525
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Speaker 1: radio host who played in the NFL for a long time,

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Speaker 1: writes a film piece every week former NFL player. Right,

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Speaker 1: You're not getting that at your local newspaper. You're not

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Speaker 1: getting that on websites because you have to go through

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Speaker 1: Uh you have, you have to scroll through so many apps. Listen,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't get any better. And the thing about the Athletic,

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Speaker 1: it's only scratching the surface, Like, imagine what this website

532
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: is going to be like in a year two. They

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Speaker 1: cover everything, fantasy football, gambling, it has it all. The

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Speaker 1: Athletic dot Com slash J Middle, this this came across.

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Speaker 1: I think it would have been Tuesday morning, maybe Monday morning,

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Speaker 1: that the Raiders had restructured. Donald Pen They're starting left

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Speaker 1: tackle who has never played right tackle in his career,

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Speaker 1: played a short period in a game a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago. I think it was a total of snaps.

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Speaker 1: He restructured his contract for more guaranteed money and they

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Speaker 1: moved him to the right side. And listen, I people

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Speaker 1: think I'm a Gruden hater, I'm not. I think he's

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Speaker 1: a good coach. I think I questioned some of his

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Speaker 1: salary cap stuff and the way Kleil mac has been handled,

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Speaker 1: even though I don't know if it's all him, but

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Speaker 1: I think coaching football and watching their first preseason game

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Speaker 1: against the Lions, the offense he's running. He's gonna be

548
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Speaker 1: good at coaching football. But this is a move that

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Speaker 1: just make me shake my head a little bit I

550
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Speaker 1: learned when I was in the NFL. I got luckily.

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Speaker 1: I got to be around a lot of people, good

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Speaker 1: and bad. I mean, I was Howie Roseman's basically his

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Speaker 1: right hand man for a couple of years. In terms

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Speaker 1: of doing task for him. I worked hand in hand

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Speaker 1: with Lewis Riddick, who anyone that's watching ESPN knows he

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Speaker 1: knows his ship. I also saw the worst of the worst.

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Speaker 1: I saw Ryan Grigson wasn't shocked when he crashed and burned.

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Speaker 1: Pheel Savage ran the Senior Bowl former GM super sharp.

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Speaker 1: I've seen it all, Brett Veach GM with Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: I have seen the good in the bat But the

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Speaker 1: one thing I learned is in free agency, and this

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Speaker 1: is going to speak to Donald Penn. When you sign

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Speaker 1: a player, you can't expect them to be different once

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Speaker 1: you signed them. If they are an established veteran, what

565
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Speaker 1: they do is what they do. No, no different in anything.

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Speaker 1: In any business, you signed a guy, a fourty year

567
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Speaker 1: old salesman that had been doing something for fifteen years,

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Speaker 1: you can't sign him to your company and think he's

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Speaker 1: going to excel in somewhere else and not have him

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Speaker 1: do what he's good at. Like people establish who they are,

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Speaker 1: you have to take them at face value and use

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Speaker 1: who they are to your advantage. In business. No different football.

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Speaker 1: Donald Penn is a left tackle, so you draft Colton Miller,

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Speaker 1: who cannot play right tackle. He's said over and over

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Speaker 1: it was a disaster at U c l A. He's

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Speaker 1: only comfortable on the left side. Well, Donald Penn, if healthy,

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Speaker 1: which he is now, is a better player right now?

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Speaker 1: Maybe not in a couple of years. Don's three years old,

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Speaker 1: but right now then Colton Miller, So they kind of

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Speaker 1: have a problem on their hands. So you are making

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Speaker 1: instead of making one position worse, like maybe quote Colton

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Speaker 1: up and right tackling. If he can't do it, just

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Speaker 1: have him take over next year. But it would kind

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Speaker 1: of suck because you're not getting anything out of your

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Speaker 1: first rounder. But when you move Donald penn away from

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Speaker 1: left tackle to right tackle, you were making two positions

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Speaker 1: worse at once because he's your best left tackle and

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Speaker 1: he's not a right tackle. Now, maybe he's talented enough,

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00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: maybe he figures it out, but that's a lot to

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Speaker 1: ask of a thirty five year old guy. I think

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Speaker 1: he's just kind of crazy. To me. He'd been better

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Speaker 1: off probably just cutting him if you want him to

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Speaker 1: play another position. Again, there is a chance that he's

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Speaker 1: a solid right tackle. I'm not, you know, just assuming

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a disaster, he might be solid.

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Speaker 1: He's probably better just learning from scratch, better than anything

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Speaker 1: they have. The bar is low. But I do know

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Speaker 1: one thing. When Donald Pender left tackle, he's good. He's

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Speaker 1: a good starting left tackle, been to multiple Pro Bowls

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Speaker 1: for the Raiders. Derek trusts him Coulton Miller. You're forcing

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Speaker 1: this rookie to come, which again I actually think Colton

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Speaker 1: Miller might be better than I originally thought. But I

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Speaker 1: think it's kind of crazy. You know, Usually when you

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Speaker 1: have a strength, which the Raiders did the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years as an offensive line, once you start tweaking it,

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Speaker 1: things changed dramatically. You saw it with the Cowboys a

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Speaker 1: little when when Lyle Collins went from guard to right tackle.

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Speaker 1: It just weakened them a little bit. Part of their

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Speaker 1: strength was when guys are really good at a position.

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Speaker 1: You write it when when humans established what they're good at,

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Speaker 1: you you use that to your advantage in any business.

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Speaker 1: So I I just think it's not a head scratching move.

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Speaker 1: I get it, but I think it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a hail Mary that's unneeded. But the problem, and

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Speaker 1: this is where the Raiders got them in trouble give

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Speaker 1: themselves in trouble, is when they took Colton Miller and

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Speaker 1: all he can play is left tackle. Donald Penn really

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Speaker 1: doesn't have that much value to you because you draft

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Speaker 1: a guy in the first round, you gotta start up.

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Speaker 1: They would have been better off just and maybe they

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Speaker 1: end up doing this, trading Donald pen or cutting him,

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Speaker 1: because attempting to have him play right tackle when he

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Speaker 1: has been a means thirty five years old, has been

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Speaker 1: a league forever as a left tackle. That's that's asking

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Speaker 1: a lot, and it's kind of asking for a problem.

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Speaker 1: And I think sometimes players go, God, you won't pay

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Speaker 1: Khalil Mack. Our best tackle is you know, our best

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Speaker 1: left tackle is actually not the starter. He's actually over right.

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Speaker 1: You know, you just open yourself up to people. You know,

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Speaker 1: players talk, they're they're not idiots. And again, I am

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Speaker 1: a John Gruden supporter. I know Colin thinks it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a dumpster part. I don't. I think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a good coach. This moves a little head scratching

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Speaker 1: from just an ex's nose football standpoint, I think it's

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Speaker 1: just a huge hail Mary. Now again the more and

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Speaker 1: as I'm talking this out, maybe they just end up

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Speaker 1: trading him, you know, in the next couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: if he just proves he's healthy, and that might happen

639
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Speaker 1: because a ton of teams need left tackles. But if

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Speaker 1: this is the Raiders trying to keep him, I I

641
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Speaker 1: think it's pretty crazy. Okay, time to get into the

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Speaker 1: middle coff mail bag. Uh. If I missed your question

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Speaker 1: on iTunes, I apologize, send me a new question because

644
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of at the top of the list now,

645
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna work through some Instagram questions too. I

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Speaker 1: I didn't do this on purpose. I don't mean to

647
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Speaker 1: skip your questions. I obviously want to read your questions.

648
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Speaker 1: That's the whole point of this thing. But I might

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Speaker 1: have skipped it, and I know I had. Some people

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Speaker 1: will get mad at me, So again, I apologize. I'm

651
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Speaker 1: not uh mail bag accountant. I'm gonna miss some stuff,

652
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Speaker 1: so I don't know what else to say besides I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to uh the Browns here. This is a

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Speaker 1: pretty good one. Even if the Browns Denzel Ward ends

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Speaker 1: up becoming a Pro Bowl Calendar caliber player and Bradley

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Speaker 1: Chubb is an average starter, it seems like you could

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Speaker 1: still make the case that Chubb could be more valuable

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Speaker 1: in today's NFL. Any truth to that? And did you

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Speaker 1: like them taking award at four? Well, I think we

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Speaker 1: can all admit Denzel Ward was the best corner in

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Speaker 1: the draft, but it is so hard to play dB. Now,

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Speaker 1: with the rules, you can't touch the wide receiver, you

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Speaker 1: can't tackle, you can't be physical. It's just a difficult

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Speaker 1: position to play. So the difference between just a solid

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Speaker 1: guy and an elite guy, you know, with the rules,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it makes that big of a difference.

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Speaker 1: The one place where you can still kick ass, take

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Speaker 1: names and be physical is the line of scrimmage. And

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Speaker 1: if Adeley chub is, let's go above average starter, like

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Speaker 1: a pseudo pro bowler. Like trying to think of a

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Speaker 1: good example, like it becomes like Bruce irvan Is from

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Speaker 1: now for the Raiders, like a starter on a championship team,

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Speaker 1: just a really key, good player. I think you could

674
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Speaker 1: make the argument that you should have taken Bradley job.

675
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Speaker 1: I got a couple of buddies in the league that

676
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Speaker 1: think like the Browns draft could haunt them forever. Listen,

677
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Speaker 1: I like Baker Mayfield, but you just watched the preseason games.

678
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Speaker 1: Sam Donald just has more gifts. He's just a more

679
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Speaker 1: gifted player. Now, if Sam Donald becomes a star and

680
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Speaker 1: Baker becomes really good, it it might not matter that much.

681
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: But this, to me, the position that was a little crazier.

682
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Speaker 1: This This was kind of crazy. And who pushed them

683
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Speaker 1: for this? Their defensive coordinator. It looks like he's going

684
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Speaker 1: through a midlife crisis and he wanted this guy. And

685
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Speaker 1: can you imagine if you had a pass rush of

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Speaker 1: Denzil Award and Miles Garrett, how good that defensive line

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Speaker 1: would be. I I think that that it was a

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Speaker 1: little io opening, not the Denzel Ward was going high.

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Speaker 1: He he was a top seven eight pick. Lock. There

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Speaker 1: weren't that many corners in the draft. He was the

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Speaker 1: best one and had a ton of upside, But you

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Speaker 1: took a one year starter. Now, the reason he was

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Speaker 1: a one year starter because Marcus Lattimore and garyon Conley

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Speaker 1: were on the team. But yeah, man, it's that pick,

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Speaker 1: probably more than Baker because I think Baker at worse

696
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Speaker 1: is gonna be solid. It's not going to kill him

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Speaker 1: as much as this one. I mean, he better become

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Speaker 1: a roll bowler. I'll tell you that much, because if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't, and Denzel, Denzel Ward's gonna be good in Denver.

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Speaker 1: He plays with Von Miller, like, those two guys are

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Speaker 1: gonna kick ass. I promise you. I saw it five

702
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Speaker 1: years ago when DeMarcus Ware was there, they were unstoppable combo.

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Speaker 1: So Vaughan is much better now and Denzel or I mean,

704
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: excuse me, Bradley like they're gonna be really good. So

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Speaker 1: it's something Cleveland that to me is a bigger kind

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Speaker 1: of question mark red flag than the Donald Baker. Okay,

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Speaker 1: hello John, what is your opinion on the injuries happening

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Speaker 1: in the preseason. Is it strength and conditioning coaches fault

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Speaker 1: for not getting players better prepared or should teams start

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Speaker 1: falling Baltimore's approach and do more Oklahoma drills? Thank you

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Speaker 1: for the time. I'll hang up and listen. I had

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Speaker 1: that part, Jimmy g strings. I like that, damn listen.

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Speaker 1: I think for the most part, you know, a broken leg,

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Speaker 1: torn a c L, something like that, it's pretty freaky.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna happen. Inevitable, it is inevitable. There's

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Speaker 1: an inevitability to injuries in the sport of football. Last year,

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Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, remember towards a c L in a preseason game,

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Speaker 1: like to me that a c L was snapping sooner

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Speaker 1: or later. You looked at Richard Sherman last year when

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Speaker 1: it was Achilles popped, as he had said he knew

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Speaker 1: it was eventually gonna pop. Now, I'm not a doctor,

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Speaker 1: Uh just been around football and heard the way they

723
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Speaker 1: talk about it. There is something like muscle polls with

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Speaker 1: hydration and stretching, for sure, and some teams are clearly

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Speaker 1: better than others at that. But I do think part

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Speaker 1: of football, like I, I don't think you're any more likely.

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Speaker 1: Here's where I would agree with the Hardbaugh approach and

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Speaker 1: just a more physical approach is if you just do

729
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma drills. Now I don't know if just doing the

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma drill, but just doing more physical practices like have

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Speaker 1: goal line periods tackled to the ground, You're just as

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Speaker 1: likely to get hurt as if you're in you know,

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Speaker 1: O T a seven on seven and guys have non

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Speaker 1: contact injuries. It's it's a violent sport. People get hurt.

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Speaker 1: It's why I always see like it happens a lot

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Speaker 1: in college football when a guy gets hurt late in

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Speaker 1: the season or a bowl game and they go, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, he should have not played in the game. Well,

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Speaker 1: he would have been to me just as likely to

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Speaker 1: break a leg training trying to deadlift five pounds, you know,

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Speaker 1: a non contact injury running cones. You can get hurt

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Speaker 1: doing anything at any time. You cannot live scared in football.

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Speaker 1: You just played football. Now you can obviously. And this

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Speaker 1: is where I think the NFL has done a good

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Speaker 1: job in practices. Isn't necessary to tackle to the ground

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Speaker 1: for three straight weeks? Probably not like you can do thud.

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Speaker 1: But I know a lot of people listening don't get

748
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Speaker 1: a chance to go to an NFL practice because I've

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Speaker 1: been to a lot of college practices from scouting and

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Speaker 1: being at Fresno State. Like THUD in college is I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty violent still, I mean, especially the Division One level,

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Speaker 1: but THUD in the NFL, and when I say thud,

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Speaker 1: it just basically means you you hit with kind of

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Speaker 1: your shoulder pads and hands. You're you're not wrapping up,

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Speaker 1: you just kind of make contacts and then run through

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Speaker 1: is pretty violent, you know. I mean sometimes a running

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Speaker 1: back even in THUD, we'll just get knocked to the

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Speaker 1: ground because you know, Quasky tart Is flying up or

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Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, you know, or Bruce Irvan or Reuben Foster.

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Speaker 1: Like you play thud with the Reuben Foster, you get

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Speaker 1: literally thudded, you know, and you know, guys are strong,

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Speaker 1: they stay up, but sometimes you hit the ground. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: your knee may buckle. Again, it's football. I I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's a right or wrong way to appro this.

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Speaker 1: I would always lean a little more physical. I do

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Speaker 1: think there is something too. There's there's a reason boxer

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Speaker 1: spar before they fight, and to me, there is a

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Speaker 1: reason there have been more injuries in games the last

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Speaker 1: several years. I have no stats to back this up,

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Speaker 1: but I think when you're more physical and you're more

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Speaker 1: used to the contact, your your body is more used

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Speaker 1: to it. Again, when you're used to you know, when

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Speaker 1: you're young and you're wrestling all the time with brothers

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Speaker 1: and friends, you don't get you know, it doesn't hurt

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Speaker 1: as much. If I were to wrestle now at three

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Speaker 1: or four years old, I wouldn't be able to walk

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Speaker 1: the next day. We're getting to just put on, you know,

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Speaker 1: some face gear and go box and being so much pain.

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Speaker 1: But if you're used to it, the the physical pounding

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Speaker 1: and people are I've never been to a New England

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Speaker 1: Patriot practice, but they'll tell you they keep the pads on,

782
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Speaker 1: you know, throughout the whole season. Bill Freak and Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Where do you learn that from Bill freaking Parcels, Bill

784
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Speaker 1: freaking Walsh, all those guys believed in that. Now should

785
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Speaker 1: you do the same way they did in two? Of course?

786
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: But should you keep the pat Should you wear you know,

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Speaker 1: pads in practice in December, even if it's just for

788
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: Wednesday practice? Probably? I mean, you know, don't you want

789
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Speaker 1: to get used to the way things are gonna feel

790
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: when you play? And there's also a balance and you know,

791
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Speaker 1: knowing who's our pro you know, knowing what guys are

792
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Speaker 1: pros and what guys aren't pros, and what guys can

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Speaker 1: handle it. So good question. Let me try to find

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Speaker 1: something on Instagram. I got a bunch of middlecoff mail bags.

795
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Speaker 1: Mail bag question. Okay, this is a good one. With

796
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame happening this past weekend, it was

797
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: really good. By the way, Uh, players who are the

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Speaker 1: best at their position, of course making the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: My question is, do you think Devin Hester will be

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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame one day? He was the

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Speaker 1: best punt and kick returner of all time. I think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna take a little while, uh, but I definitely

803
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Speaker 1: think he'll eventually get there, and this was the argument

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Speaker 1: forever about Ray Guy. Like Ray Guy was a football player.

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Speaker 1: Now he wasn't on offense or defense, but he was

806
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Speaker 1: the best punter ever. He should have been in the

807
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame and said he had to wait forever.

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Speaker 1: Now I get it when you're nitpicking quarterbacks Nippick and

809
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Speaker 1: wide receiver's Nipick and d Lyneman. But Devin Hester what

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Speaker 1: he did on the football field and played on some

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Speaker 1: really good teams as a kick and punt returner, was

812
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Speaker 1: as dynamic as a guy, and he did it forever.

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Speaker 1: So to me, when you say Devin Hester, I think

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Speaker 1: Devin Hester is every bit for example, of the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer as Terrell Davis is. And again Terrell Davis's

816
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Speaker 1: highs or higher. He was super Bowl MVP. Was he

817
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Speaker 1: super Bowl MVP? Yeah? I think he was super Bowl MVP.

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Speaker 1: He was MVP the league, but his his career last

819
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Speaker 1: like four years, like Devin Hester did it forever. That

820
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Speaker 1: might be a bad example because I've always thought Roll

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Speaker 1: Davis was a Hall of Famer, But the guys that

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Speaker 1: making it, like Devin Hester was better at what he did,

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Speaker 1: for example, than like Tim Brown was better at his

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Speaker 1: position right, Devin Hester was the best in the league

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Speaker 1: at what he did for years. So yeah, to me,

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Speaker 1: Devin Hester, because you can't probably vote a guy like

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Speaker 1: that in for the first couple of years. Eventually he

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Speaker 1: should one make the Hall of Fame. Hey boss, A

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Speaker 1: huge fan. My question to you is, don't you think

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Speaker 1: McCarthy and Tomlin are on the hot seat for people

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Speaker 1: who have had head coaching security for a long time

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Speaker 1: and although their powerhouses in the regular season, they haven't

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Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl recently. I think this is a

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Speaker 1: pretty good question. I was asked the other day on

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Speaker 1: I think Twitter, maybe it was on Instagram. Is Mike Tomlin, like,

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Speaker 1: is he on the hot seat if they were to

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Speaker 1: not make the NFC Championship Because you look at the

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Speaker 1: Steelers and you go, if they don't make the NFC Championship,

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Speaker 1: it is a royal failure failure, and I do agree

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Speaker 1: with that. But to me, Mike Tomlin, he's a stone

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Speaker 1: cold lock to make it to two thousand nineteen. That's

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Speaker 1: just not the way the Steelers operate. I do think

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Speaker 1: if they were to have a own year this year,

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Speaker 1: you know, get bounced in the first round, uh, not

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Speaker 1: even make the playoffs. I think he would be under

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Speaker 1: some heat. But I I cannot and I repeat not

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Speaker 1: see Mike Tomlin making it till the following year in

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Speaker 1: two thousand nine team. Then he'd be on the hot

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Speaker 1: seat right right now. It would take a it would

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Speaker 1: take a scandal or just something super crazy to happen

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Speaker 1: that I can't even think of. Uh, Mike McCarthy. I

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Speaker 1: do think he legitimately is on the hot seat New

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Speaker 1: GM first kind of turnover in forever for Green Bay

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Speaker 1: with Gunakins who's running the show now. If they make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, win the division, I think McCarthy is pretty safe.

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Speaker 1: But if somehow like Rogers gets hurt again and they

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Speaker 1: missed the playoffs, McCarthy to be done. I I think

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Speaker 1: McCarthy not only needs to make the playoffs, probably needs

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Speaker 1: to win a game or two in the playoffs to

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Speaker 1: keep his job. I think there is a lot of

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Speaker 1: validity to I wouldn't say his seat is on fire,

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Speaker 1: but it's definitely slowly he being up kind of like

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Speaker 1: a microwave, you know, it's like the first ten seconds,

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Speaker 1: like you can feel it coming. Joe from San Jose,

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Speaker 1: what is your opinion on the new college football rules

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Speaker 1: about how many people can have a headset on during

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Speaker 1: a game and how many people can be in the

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Speaker 1: press box for coaching staffs. How do you think it

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Speaker 1: will affect the power five football programs as opposed to

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Speaker 1: the group of five staffs with less man you know,

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Speaker 1: the non group of fives with less manpower. Do you

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Speaker 1: think the NFL will ever put restrictions on it? Start

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Speaker 1: with the NFL. No, because the owners don't give a

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Speaker 1: shit about any of that. I mean, they just do

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Speaker 1: not care. And I'm a big believer. There can be

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Speaker 1: too many, too many chiefs and not enough Indians. You know,

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Speaker 1: too many cooks in the kitchen, Like how many guys

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Speaker 1: do you need on the headset? You know, Saban did

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Speaker 1: it forever, He'd have fifty guys in the headsets. Former

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Speaker 1: coaches listen some boxes at some smaller schools that they're

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Speaker 1: not even that big. I don't know how you fit

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Speaker 1: everyone in there, But you got fifteen to twenty coaches,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not even counting the g as the analyt us,

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Speaker 1: Like how many of them need to be on the headset?

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Speaker 1: How much of it truly matters? This is what I

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Speaker 1: think would be fair Obviously, most staffs have a position

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Speaker 1: coach for every position, usually offensive line, defensive line, sometimes

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Speaker 1: defensive backs have assistance for that position. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: usually there's a quarterback coach, offensive coordinator, and if your

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Speaker 1: head coach is offensive guy, that's three guys that are

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Speaker 1: basically quarterback coaches. How many how many quality control graduate

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Speaker 1: assistants do you need on the headset? I think you

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Speaker 1: should cap it too in the in the box for college.

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Speaker 1: In the pros, I don't think it matters because it

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Speaker 1: just does not matter. You know, there there are three

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Speaker 1: or four coaches literally doing everything that in in college.

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Speaker 1: I'd make it your coordinators if either one of them

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Speaker 1: are in the box, their assistant, whether that's the quality

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Speaker 1: controller g A, and then another position coach. But to me,

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Speaker 1: the an analyst should not get a headset like I

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Speaker 1: I get we're seeing Sabans doing it, and I give

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Speaker 1: them credit for it can outside the box and hiring

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Speaker 1: these guys, but they should not get a headset on

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Speaker 1: game day in the pros. I don't care how many

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Speaker 1: quality control guys you give headsets too, because it ultimately

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Now, I do think there is a benefit

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Speaker 1: to you know, if a young coach. It would suck

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Speaker 1: to not have a headset on because you hear the

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Speaker 1: way coaches operate during games and the banter that goes

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Speaker 1: back and forth, and I mean it's incredible. I've I

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Speaker 1: got to be on the headset a couple of times

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Speaker 1: at Frazzo State. I know, I have buddies that are

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Speaker 1: pro scouts that in in the pros. Unlike college where

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Speaker 1: your quality control guy is kind of your scout in

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Speaker 1: the your your pro scouts help in pro football. So

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Speaker 1: they're on the headsets, helping with signs, helping with personnel groups,

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Speaker 1: and depending on the team they're on, they'll just say, God,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a roller coaster ride. You know, I've

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Speaker 1: never done it. In the NFL. When I was in Philly,

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Speaker 1: Lewis Lewis Riddick was would travel with the team and

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Speaker 1: do that. I mean it was intense, you know, you

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Speaker 1: had I don't know if I could handle the pressure.

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Speaker 1: But to me, they should just cap the number for

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Speaker 1: Division one football, you know, at three guys in the

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Speaker 1: booth with headsets on, and then every position coach gets one,

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Speaker 1: so maybe two extra guys, but the guys the schools

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Speaker 1: without the resources and without the manpower, will will always

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Speaker 1: be at a huge disadvantage whether you have headsets or

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Speaker 1: don't have headsets. But I do think that's fascinating something

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Speaker 1: to think about because I know it it does affect

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Speaker 1: college more than it affects the pros. Appreciate everyone listening.

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Speaker 1: Football is back, Thank God, Thank you Jesus for sending

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Speaker 1: us this great game follows here middle of August. Uh

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Speaker 1: a ton more games this weekend. Thanks everyone for listening. Again.

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Speaker 1: If I missed your question, I apologize. Go back into iTunes,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep working through them. My My Instagram is

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