1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: War will visit us here on the continent. The world 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: has changed. There is no long term national strategy to 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: deal with anything. 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: In the Ukraine conflict, maybe the US was sort of 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: exposed as being a little bit incompetent or behind what 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: the Russian military was. 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: Russia has won. One point eight million Ukrainians in uniform 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: are dead. 9 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: Terrible. 10 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: Russia will determine what Ukraine looks like beyond the Polish border. 11 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: The most heinoused evil type of crime that you could 12 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: even imagine. 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Are we going to admit that our drug problem is 14 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: here in the United States. 15 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: It's a serious conversation that needs to be have. 16 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: The average African warlord cares more about the people he 17 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: leads in Central Africa than most of the senators and 18 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: congressmen care about us. You may not have a job 19 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: here anymore. Things are about to change, you know, we 20 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: went through this before it was called the Civil War. 21 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: We're living through the biggest global power shifts since World 22 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: War II, and most Americans don't even see it yet. 23 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: Now the rest of the world does. We see nations realigning. 24 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 2: Old alliances are cracking. The US is stretched thin in China, Russia, 25 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: and the global South they're all moving into the vacuum. Now, 26 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 2: the question that every investor, every entrepreneur, every family should 27 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: be asking is what comes next? Because whatever this new 28 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: world looks like, your wealth, your freedom, and your future 29 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: is going to be shaped by it. So today we're 30 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 2: going to be joined by somebody who's been warning about 31 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 2: this moment long before it hit headlines. I'm talking about 32 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: Colonel Doug McGregor. He's a career Army officer, military strategist. 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: He's someone who's not afraid to tell the truth, no 34 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,639 Speaker 2: matter how uncomfortable it is. We're going to talk about 35 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: NATO Ukraine. We're going to talk about Venezuela, China, the 36 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: collapse of American influence. We'll talk about the global power 37 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: realignment that's already underway, and most importantly, what it means 38 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: for you. So let's get into it. Colonel, you've openly 39 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: talked about the US being financially exhausted right now, right now, 40 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: you know, thirty eight trillion dollars in debt and rising, 41 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: rising global commitments. What typically happens when an empire expands 42 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: while it's balance sheet collapses, Well. 43 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: Eventually catastrophe, but in the short run, and we're still 44 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: not yet. In the long run, we're getting there, but 45 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: we're not there yet. I think we have to understand 46 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: that our problems really began with the Vietnam War. A 47 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand that Lyndon Johnson actually bankrupted 48 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: the country the cost of the Vietnam War along with 49 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: his social programs, but primarily the war essentially bankrupted the country. 50 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: And so on fifteen August nineteen seventy one, Richard Nixon 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: discarded the gold standard. Now some people will say, well, why, well, 52 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: you discarded it because he couldn't pay for anything. We 53 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: have to remember that historically, if you wanted to do something, 54 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, if Washington wanted to spend, they had to 55 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: tax the American people. There was a limit. But after 56 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one and the abandonment of the gold standard, 57 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: there was no limit. You needed money, you simply printed it. 58 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: And as a result, over a long period of time, 59 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: they printed away our savings, our income, everything, our heritage, 60 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: our standard of living. They didn't print wealth. What they 61 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: printed for themselves was power. So the printing press for 62 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: dollars is essentially the mother of unending war. You know, 63 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: for two trillion dollars in Afghanistan over twenty years and 64 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: four presidents. We replaced the Taliban with the Taliban and 65 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: there's no accountability. 66 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: Why yeah, well. 67 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: It didn't matter to the average American. You know, if 68 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: the government had to tax us directly to bomb countries 69 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: that most of us can't even find on a map, 70 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: then there would be a revolution or rebellion. But because 71 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: they could print, war was invisible. You know. The printing 72 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: press also is the foundation for endless bureaucracy. When money 73 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: is infinite, you can hire armies of bureaucrats. You can 74 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: take seventy thousand pages of federal code and turn them 75 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: into two hundred thousand. The printing press is also the 76 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: source of uncontrolled immigration. They tell you it's about compassion, 77 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: it isn't. It is a wage suppression operation. Why pay 78 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: an American a living wage when you can import a 79 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: replacement from some other place in the world Latin America, Africa, 80 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: the Middle East, the Indian subcontinent for half the price. 81 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: So what's the result. Millions of people fled into the 82 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: United States, not necessarily people we really need or necessarily want. Certainly, 83 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: not necessarily people that are remotely interested in becoming Americans 84 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: or even can be. But we drive down the cost 85 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: of American labor, while Washington prints money to drive up 86 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: the price of their assets. So we don't have a 87 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: border crisis. What we have is an economic weapon that's 88 00:04:54,400 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: deployed against us. And printing money without constraint is also 89 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: the mother of endless outsourcing. Fake money allows them to 90 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: ship factories overseas. Behind those closed doors lie rusted towns, 91 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: broken families, an opioid epidemic that kills more than three 92 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: hundred thousand people a year, a lot more than died 93 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: in Vietnam. So I think we're heading into the currency 94 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: debasement problem now. And of course this then elevates something 95 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: like bitcoin to considerable importance, because we clearly cannot go 96 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 1: back to a pure gold standard. It would be nice, 97 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: but I don't think there's enough gold left in the 98 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: United States, maybe not even in the world to do it. 99 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: I mean, you stop and think that in the last 100 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: twenty two months, we've printed thirty percent of all the 101 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: dollars that have ever existed. Now, that's an enormous, enormous 102 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: quantity of dollars. And the President smiles and says, Oh, 103 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: everything's just fun, everything's getting better. All the presidents have 104 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: done that. It doesn't matter if you're a Democrat or Republican. 105 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: And they say, well, this is capitalism, this is a 106 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: free market. No, it's not. Capitalism requires competition, periodic failure, 107 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 1: or creative destruction. So in this current environment, given the 108 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: ability to sort of inject liquidity whatever you like, or 109 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 1: quantitative easy and call it what you will, when big 110 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: business fails, Washington prints money to bail it out. Now 111 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: that assumes that if you're in big business, you have 112 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: the right friends in Washington. And if you aren't big 113 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: business and you don't have friends in Washington, you're foreclosed. 114 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: So I think that's a good way to look at 115 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: the problem that we have right now. And there's no 116 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: easy way out, and nobody wants to default because that 117 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: could have profound consequences. So what do we do. We 118 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: continue to print, and we have a very elaborate game 119 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: involving balance sheets and bonds and T bills. And now 120 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: the stable coin business is another scam in my judgment, 121 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: it's not bitcoin, And why would anybody want to invest 122 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,559 Speaker 1: in stable coin? If each coin is worth one dollar, 123 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: We'll forget it. Let's all buy bitcoin, forget stable coin. Right. Anyway, 124 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: I think those things are coming together. These forces are converging. Now. 125 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: The other part of this is, in addition to running 126 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: out of wealth, which is effectively where we are we 127 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: don't produce anything. What do we manufacture. We manufacture some 128 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: military equipment, but much beyond it. No, our manufacturing base 129 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: was driven out of the country. So we're trying to 130 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: restart that. But that's not something you snap your fingers 131 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: and change. It's going to take a long time. What 132 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: have we done in the energy industry? What have we 133 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: done for agriculture? Those two things used to be pillars 134 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: in the high church of productivity and wealth in the 135 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: United States. We're not getting nearly out of energy or 136 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: out of the agrarian sector. In my judgment, what we 137 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: need there needs to be a focus on that. You know, 138 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: just look at mining. We talk about mineral wealth, and 139 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: we're worried about rare earth. Now, we found some rare 140 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: earths deposits up at Alaska. But I've got news for you. 141 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: There's rare earth all over Canada. There's rare earth in 142 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: the United States, but we haven't bothered to do anything 143 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: with it. Why well, it wasn't to financially rewarding. It 144 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: was cheaper, faster, better to go somewhere else. And the 145 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: worst part is we don't even have a refinery for 146 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: the stuff. So where do we send our rare earth 147 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: to be refined? Times up China, you know, so it 148 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: goes to China or you know, Kazakhstan. I don't know 149 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: if Mongolia has an operating refinery right now, but we 150 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: haven't built one. You know, we need to build one. 151 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: It's crazy. And we have friends that are sitting on 152 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: enormous rare earth deposits that nobody ever bothers to mention. 153 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: Norway has perhaps the large just rarest department in all 154 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: of Europe. So I think we've just got problems in 155 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: Washington because there is no long term national strategy to 156 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: deal with anything. There's no long term national strategy for 157 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: military purposes, none for scientific industrial development, none for mineral 158 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: wealth and extraction, none for agriculture, none for energy. Everything 159 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: is ad hoc, last minute, a short term. And that's 160 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: not surprising because every four years, what do we do 161 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: in Washington? Every four or eight it depends on how 162 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: long the president lasts. Well, we lobotomize the government. We say, oh, well, 163 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: everything they did was wrong. Now we're going to do 164 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: all of these things. Well, it doesn't really change the country. 165 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: The country remains the same thing, but there is no 166 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: framework for development, no framework for improvement. So I think 167 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: at this point, I think we're on the road to 168 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: what Nasam Talent calls the perhaps the mother of all 169 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: black swans. 170 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: Well, that's a really good frame, and it all kind 171 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 2: of starts with your case for sound money, which I 172 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: thought was really well put. The interesting historical fact is 173 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: that the first central bank that was created was the 174 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: Bank of England in the late sixteen hundreds. That was 175 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 2: created specifically so they'd have more money to continue to 176 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: fight wars. So it was started so they could print 177 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 2: money so they could just keep these never ending wars going. 178 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: And that's what we've seen, and you mentioned, you know, 179 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: spending two trillion dollars in Afghanistan. So while the US 180 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: government certainly has the power of the money printer and 181 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: can continue to print essentially at this point endless amounts 182 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: of money to fight these wars. The symptom of that, 183 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: as you mentioned, then it also requires sort of maybe 184 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: hollowing out the manufacturing base, which I think brings to 185 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: maybe a more crucial point. You're talking about not being 186 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: able to refine our own rare earth elements and things 187 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: like that. So currently, right now the US has this 188 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 2: massive amount of debt. The money printer is still working 189 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: at this point, it's having diminishing returns. But maybe the 190 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: real crux or maybe pain point that we have right 191 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: now being able to sort of project power globally is 192 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: not just in the money or the debt that we have, 193 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: but the ability to even fight a war, to even 194 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: be able to produce the goods that we need. You've 195 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: heard me talking about investing in layers and things like. 196 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 2: The reason you have to work so hard is because 197 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: your money doesn't well. I want to invite you to 198 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: a special event. I'm having a three day live event 199 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: called the Wealth Operating System. It's an accelerator event. I'm 200 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: going to teach you all the tools that the one 201 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: percent use to have their money work harder than they do, 202 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 2: getting their money to do one job, two jobs, three 203 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: five jobs at once, so it can work faster and 204 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: harder than you. Over three days, we're going to go deep. 205 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to bring in guest speakers. It's workshop style. 206 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: I got about fifteen tools and We're going to go 207 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: through a methodical process so you can learn how to 208 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: reclaim ten to fifteen hours of your time back per week, 209 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: how to keep more of your money, how to invest 210 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: it and multiply it faster than you've ever imagined by 211 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: the individual. Have a ninety day plan of exactly what 212 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: you need to do to go make twenty twenty six 213 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: the best year you've ever imagined. It's all going to 214 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: be live, it's all going to be virtual. There's a 215 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: link down below if you want to come check out. 216 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: I'll put a QR code up on the screen. If 217 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: you want to get your money working harder than needed 218 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: to grow your wealth faster than you've ever imagined, like 219 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: the one percent, check out the Wealth Operating System Accelerator event. 220 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 2: Check out the link down below. 221 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: Well, I think you're you know your British analogy is 222 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: Merit's closer attention because you're right. They created the Bank 223 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: of England for those purposes. It was also the strategic 224 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: engine in many ways, at least in monetary terms, for 225 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: the founding and expansion of the British Empire. But having 226 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: said that, Britain did recognize limits and constraints and they 227 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: operated within these limits and constraints. They understood the criticality 228 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: of gold backing their currency, and so they were able 229 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: to be part of various alliances and coalitions that defeated 230 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: various enemies, whether it was Louis the fourteenth or Napoleon Buonaparte, 231 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: and they were able to do it without enormous loss 232 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: of life and without fielding enormous forces. The large forces 233 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: that did most of the fighting were always continental, largely 234 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: German speaking and Russian speaking armies, connected with some others 235 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: on the periphery, but those are the main ones to 236 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: defeat these French forces. That changes in nineteen fourteen and 237 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: a very very bad decision is made, and that decision 238 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: was to intervene in the First World War, something for 239 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: which the British were not prepared and could not sustain. 240 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: And by nineteen seventeen it was pretty obvious to anybody 241 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: looking at the facts on the ground that France and 242 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: Britain were losing, and so the pressure for the bankers 243 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: was enormous for us to come into the war ultimately 244 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: bail out the French and British imperialists. So we ended 245 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: up doing that and had terrible consequences for US because 246 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: we destroyed Europe and we eliminated the major powers in 247 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: Central East Europe that held the European civilization together. Wherever 248 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: we have intervened historically, we have distorted the natural dynamic 249 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: forces in the area, which ultimately determined how people would 250 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: be governed and how people would live. And that's been 251 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: disastrous because we are, much like Great Britain, ultimately a 252 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: maritime and aerospace power. We are not a continental military 253 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: power anywheres but in the Western hemisphere. So like the British, 254 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: we've never had a requirement for a very large army, 255 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: and having to field large armies, especially during and after 256 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: World War Two, was an expense for which we weren't 257 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: prepared and we had to sustain this all through the 258 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: Cold War, which was frankly not a good thing. I mean, 259 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: people don't realize how much of our wealth was squandered 260 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: on containing the Soviet Union. So here we sit at 261 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: the end of this whole process. In nineteen ninety one, 262 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: we saw ourselves as having quote unquote won the Cold War. 263 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: In reality, the Soviet structure simply collapsed. It didn't make 264 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: any sense. State socialism was a disaster. There was an 265 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: opportunity then to do a lot of things. It made sense. 266 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: The first was to get out of NATO, or at 267 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: least set NATO up to operate without us. You know, 268 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: NATO is kind of like I'm sure some of you 269 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: have contracts with ADT. This is a nationwide security service 270 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: that cuts to your phone and wires your doors, your windows, 271 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: and then you have an alarm system. Well, NATO has 272 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: been the ADT analog for Europeans now for what almost 273 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: seventy sixty five years, and they've never had to pay 274 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, that's the problem. They said, Oh, well, 275 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: that's not true. We put money here in here. Let 276 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: me tell you it's a pittance. I served most of 277 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: my military career in Europe. I lived over there for 278 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: ten years. The school there served there twice three times 279 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: actually twice in Germany and then once in Belgium. We 280 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: provided free of charge ADT for the Europeans, and oh, 281 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: by the way, we've provided ADT free of charge for 282 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: Japan and to a lesser extent, Korea. The Koreans did 283 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: join US in Vietnam tried to reduce the burden on 284 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: US there, but not Japan. Japan's national strategy has been 285 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: to extract as much wealth as possible from us and 286 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: get a defense for it without paying for any of it. 287 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: And it's worked. So what Donald Trump has been saying 288 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: is now saying publicly this needs to end. And of course, 289 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: you know you're dealing with countries es actually in Europe 290 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: that have been spoiled, rotten like children, and they don't 291 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: want us to leave. They want us to continue to 292 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: pay for everything and protect them for nothing. Now, there 293 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: are a lot of people in Washington that don't like it, 294 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: because in Washington everything is mortgaged to vanity as well 295 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: as money. That means everybody likes the fact that we 296 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: have US forces all over the world. People like to 297 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: stand up and talk talk, and even President Trump does this, 298 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: which is really annoying. Frankly, we have the greatest armed 299 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: forces in the world. Nobody can stand against us. Well, 300 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: if you're like the British before World War One, and 301 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: you skillfully avoid fighting anybody who can really fight back, 302 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: you look pretty good. And Britain looked pretty good in 303 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: nineteen fourteen until it faced the Imperial German Army and 304 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: the rest is history. Same thing happened again in World 305 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: War Two. So your point is accurate. We're really not organized, trained, equipped, 306 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: and ready, if structured, to go after anybody who is 307 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: a near peer opponent if you will, or appear opponent. 308 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: And I hope people begin to understand that. And the 309 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: answer to that is not to pour money into the 310 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: old structure and the old defense establishment because we need 311 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: a new one. It's to cut back on spending defense spending, 312 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: figure out what it is that we need, and then 313 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: build that, and then steer a different course in foreign policy. 314 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: And that course is war avoidance. You mentioned that in 315 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: Washington and people look at you and say, what conflict 316 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: avoidance will Why? Yeah, because war will visit us here 317 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: on the continent. It's not what it was. The world 318 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: has changed. The technologies we once enjoyed a monopoly over 319 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: have now proliferated. War is dangerous. The last president who 320 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: really understood that was Eisenhower, and he understood that World 321 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: War II is no great march to victory without massive, 322 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: massive loss of life. And you know, this disruption of 323 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: our way of life. So you know, you put together 324 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: the end of the fat system, which I think is 325 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: staring us in the face or it's collapsed, together with 326 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: this giant force it's not really the force we need 327 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: for the future. It happens to be the force that 328 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: we've used for the past fifty sixty years to pulverize 329 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: anybody we didn't like and bullied people into submission. How 330 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: do we rectify this? And that's where you come into 331 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: a discussion of where do we go from here financially 332 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: And I don't really feel competent to discuss that in detail, 333 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: but I think bitcoin fits into that because the fat 334 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: system is not going to survive, not in its current form. 335 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: You talk about when you talked about the British army 336 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: looks strong until they met the German army, and sort 337 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 2: of the US is sort of looks strong if you 338 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: look at it, and I think, you know, I've heard 339 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: many of your interviews talking about this sort of the 340 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 2: US was sort of put on a global stage, well 341 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: two times maybe, So if you have heard of like 342 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: the generations of warfare, maybe the third generation of warfare 343 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: was like the industrial armies of like World War One 344 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: and World War two. Fourth generations sort of being maybe 345 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: starting in Vietnam, more of like a guerrilla type warfare. 346 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: And so if you look at like from Vietnam, Ford, 347 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: I mean, how many of these wars have been have 348 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 2: we been winning from the US side? But then maybe 349 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: more specifically in the Ukraine conflict, maybe the US was 350 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: sort of exposed as being a little bit incompetent or 351 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: behind maybe what the Russian military was. 352 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: Oh, I think it has been. It's been very much exposed. 353 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: Now how profoundly has that affected our standing in the world. 354 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: It'll take time to sort that out. The quickest way 355 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: to demonstrate, you know, the weakness of the United States 356 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: strategically would be to disable or sink an aircraft carrier. 357 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: People don't realize the enormous impact of the loss of 358 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: the Prince of Wales. It's giant British battleship that it 359 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: had been sent along with a cruiser by Churchill to 360 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: Singapore in nineteen forty two, and at the time the 361 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: admirals told Churchill, don't do this, they're at risk. And 362 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: he said, what do you mean they're at risk? These 363 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: are the greatest warships in the world, said, ye know, 364 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: but they don't have any air cover and their air 365 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: defenses on board the vessels are inadequate. And he said, nonsense. Well, 366 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: we know what happened The Japanese found it, they flew 367 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 1: out to it and they sank it. That was the 368 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: beginning of the end of the British Empire. And then 369 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: subsequently we have the defeat at Singapore, which pretty much 370 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: nailed the coffin shut. So those kinds of events matter. 371 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: We haven't really experienced that yet, but it doesn't mean 372 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: we could very easily and very suddenly. One example I think, 373 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: of course, of the Hoodies. Look at the success the 374 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: Hoodies had against the United States Navy in the Red Sea. Well, 375 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: was that the fault of the sailors on the ships 376 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: that they weren't able to avoid being struck and they 377 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: weren't able to damage fatally the Hoodies, No, of course not. 378 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: And the wrong vessels doing the wrong things for the 379 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: wrong reasons, with the wrong weapons systems. This is years 380 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: and years of negligence. It's also years and years of 381 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: continuing to buy the same things and spending money on 382 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: the same things that we always have because that makes 383 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: people inside the belt Way wealthy, that makes the donors happy, 384 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: it creates money. It doesn't help us in defense, which 385 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: is why spending more money for defense is not an answer. 386 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: It matters how you spend it and on what you spend, right, 387 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: it also matters the quality of the soldier, sailors, airminham 388 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: marines that you have the quality of discipline and leadership. So, 389 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: you know, I think your question is a valid one, 390 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: and I would say, yes, we have been exposed to 391 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: some extent, and I don't see any evidence that we 392 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: are seriously examining what has been exposed. I really don't. 393 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: I don't think the majority of the people I talked 394 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: to has still all sorts of fantasies about what is 395 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: really happening on the ground in eastern Ukraine and what 396 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: isn't complete failure to understand what the Russians have really done. 397 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: And I think it's unfortunate, but there's not much that 398 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: we could do about. It's very, very hard to take 399 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: a power with the kinds of armed forces we have 400 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: and persuade the people that lead it to pay attention 401 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: to reality on the ground, especially if that reality is 402 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: so radically different for what they imagine. 403 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, Unfortunately, in life, sometimes you have to take a 404 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 2: loss or hit rock bottom before you change direction, and 405 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: certainly we hope it doesn't come to that point. But 406 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: kind of talking about the Russia Ukraine, conflict. You said 407 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 2: that the conflict is essentially over, but maybe just not officially. 408 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: Now there are some terms of a treaty that have 409 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: been proposed. It looks like that's coming to a head. 410 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 2: But you said it is essentially over, just we haven't 411 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 2: really Reality hasn't caught up to that. 412 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: Well. The opportunity to have influenced this positively in a 413 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: way that would have led to peace and stability was 414 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: lost a long time go because the people in Washington, London, Paris, Berlin, 415 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: the globalists that are ruling us weren't really interested in peace. 416 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: The problem that President Trump has is I think he is, 417 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: but he doesn't control Congress, and Congress has no interest 418 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: in peace. The Senate and the House are happy if 419 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: we continue to spend wastefully on what's happening in Ukraine, 420 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: as are the people in Western Europe. Now, the reason 421 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: in Europe's a little different. I think the Europeans still 422 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: delude themselves into believing that they can harm Russia, but 423 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: the sanctions haven't really had the desired impact. Whatever impact 424 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: they had was rapidly balanced out by other actions, and 425 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: we found that most countries, in most cases can find 426 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: a way around sanctions, so that's not really our interest anymore. 427 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: I think the President Trump really would like to normalize 428 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: relations with Russia and be on a better footing, sure 429 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: footing with the Russians than we are. I just don't 430 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: know that he can make it happen. And if you 431 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: look at these twenty eight points, I think somebody pointed 432 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: out to me recently, well, if you want to read 433 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: the twenty eight points that have now been reduced to 434 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: nineteen that are probably going to become ten, you need 435 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: to go to the men's room in the Kremlin and 436 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: look at the current version on the wall, because it's meaningless. 437 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: Russia has won. Russia will determine what Ukraine looks like, 438 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: what Eastern Europe looks like beyond the Polish border. That's 439 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion. The Russians have no interest in conquering 440 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: Eastern Europe, never have. They don't even want to move 441 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: much beyond where they are right now. They want to 442 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: get on with business as usual. They would like, I think, 443 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: to have good relations with us for the same reason 444 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: we would like have good relations with them. But again, 445 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: President Trump had the opportunity after he took over to say, look, 446 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: I didn't start this. I don't like it. I don't 447 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: see any value in it, and I'm going to end it. 448 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: And the only way for this to end is if 449 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: I in Washington pull the plug. I halt the flow 450 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: of funds and equipment to Ukraine. This will compel the 451 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: Europeans and the Ukrainians in Kiev to reach some sort 452 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: of deal, because as long as we continue to support them, 453 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: they are simply not incentivized for peace. And they don't 454 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: care how many millions of people that are killed, you know, 455 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: one point eight million Ukrainians. It's about the latest number 456 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 1: I've gotten. One point eight million Ukrainians in uniform are dead, terrible, 457 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: and we don't care. You know, we don't care. Yeah, 458 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: I don't see any evidence to anybody on the hill 459 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: gives a damn. 460 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 461 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: In fact, I've begun to think that the average African 462 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: warlord cares more about the people he leads in Central 463 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: Africa than most of the Senators and congressmen care about 464 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: US Americans, let alone the Ukrainians. 465 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're so detached from it. But I think it 466 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: has seemed like Trump has tried to pull the plug, 467 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: as you said, But your point, maybe the neo cons 468 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 2: and the warmongers in Congress keep pushing forward on that. 469 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: But what we haven't stopped the money, right, We haven't 470 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: stopped the intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance information that is vital and 471 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: essential to anything that the Ukrainians want to do. Haven't 472 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: done that. We haven't holded all the equipment, although the 473 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: equipment that's promised that the Europeans are now being expected 474 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: to pay for probably won't arrive for two or three years. 475 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: Is some of that maybe just to keep a little 476 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 2: bit of pressure on to get Putin to tell us 477 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: what his terms are going to be to reach that 478 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 2: peace agreement. 479 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: He's already done that. He's troubles his terms for three 480 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: plus years. Okay, it's not a secret, don't There's no 481 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: pressure on Putin anymore? Yeah? None. There might have been 482 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: two or three years ago because at that point the 483 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: Russian military was much smaller. They hadn't yet geared up, 484 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: their manufacturing base was not running at full speed. Right now, 485 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: Russia is mobilized for war, and if they're pushed by 486 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: the stupidly billlobilized for total war. And I'll tell you 487 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: that Putin is right. A war between our European allives 488 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 1: and the Russians would end very quickly, and it wouldn't 489 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: end well for the Europeans. Again, it takes at least 490 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: ten years just to build an army. 491 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of this then hinges on NATO. 492 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: You're mentioning Russia and the Europeans. You talked about, you know, 493 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: for a long time, the US footing the bill for NATO. 494 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: Trump has been very vocal about getting every country to 495 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: pay their fair share. They haven't lately. Just in the 496 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, I've been seeing this increasing rhetoric 497 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: around the US leaving NATO, but not for the reasons 498 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: that we typically would think about. It's not so much 499 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: about hey, it's a relic of the Cold War. Hey 500 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: they're not paying their fair share now. It's like we 501 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: don't even share a ligne values with any of these 502 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: countries any longer. So that seems to be the rhetoric 503 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: I'm seeing popping up. Curious your take on that. Every 504 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: day we see headlines about inflation and dead and diminishing 505 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: control over our own money. That's why I always come 506 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 2: back to bitcoin, because it's built for generation, it is 507 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: built for legacy. But protecting your bitcoin legacy the right 508 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: way is not always simple. It demands discipline, focus and 509 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: the right partner. 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Because your bitcoin 526 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: isn't just for life, it's for generations. 527 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: Well, First of all, all of the problems that President 528 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: Trump points to with regard to the massive impact of 529 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: migrants that have flooded in from Africa, the Middle East, 530 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: the Indian subcontinent, and so forth, we have it too. 531 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, we have. 532 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: The same thing here. Who's he kidding? He needs to stop. 533 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: And I mean, if you live in a glass house 534 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: and we are in one, it's probably not a good 535 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: idea to hurl those stuff. 536 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: Well, he's been calling out dearborn Michigan. He's been calling 537 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 2: out the Somalis in Minnesota as well. 538 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, but what are we going to do 539 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: about it? 540 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 2: Right? 541 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: And see the Europeans, they're in a it's an existential 542 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: question for them. One out of every five adults in 543 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: France is a Muslim. Now that means he's a Muslim 544 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: from Africa or the Middle East, and all probability, all right, 545 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: and you do the math, look at the birth rooms. 546 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: So either they find a way to expel these people 547 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: or that's the end of France and French speaking civilization 548 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: and culture is one of the foundations of the West. 549 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: It could go away. Don't kids yourself that Italy is 550 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: not in the greatest shape it's not as bad as France. 551 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: Germany has its own set of problems. Once again, not 552 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: quite as bad as friends. What he is saying to 553 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: them is something that we need to come to terms with. 554 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: If you want to survive, you've got to defend yourselves, 555 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: and you need to defend yourselves internally, determine what you 556 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: will and won't tolerate. Look, he's you know you mentioned dearborn. 557 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Chicago and Governor Pritzker in Michigan, who 558 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: effectively says that ICE is a terrorist organization, that he's 559 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: openly rebelling against the federal government. And you know, we 560 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: went through this before it was called the Civil War. 561 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: I thought we settled that question. But this, this is 562 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: not a good thing. This is destructive to the body politic. 563 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: This is very serious threat to national cohesion. And President 564 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: Trump needs to focus there, which is why I have 565 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: argued for a long time. Get the troops out, bring 566 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: them home, get them back into the United States. You know, 567 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: let's let's ratchet down the operational tempo. You know, these 568 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: just imagine these poor bastards that were over in the Mediterranean, 569 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: in the Navy. They were over there for a few months. 570 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: Now they've sailed down to the Caribbean and there's there's 571 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: sort of sitting around sailing there. You know, this wears 572 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: you out. You know, these are human beings. They have 573 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: to perform, they have to operate the systems, they have 574 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: to make it all work. We seem to have lost 575 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: touch with these things. But here they sit and no 576 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: decision seems to have been made. And I still haven't 577 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: figured out what we expect to accomplish in Venezuela. Again, 578 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: are we going to admit that our drug problem is 579 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: here in the United States. 580 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good way to put it. 581 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: You can the hell out of Venezuela, Colombia, Mexico and 582 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: anything you want. What are you doing about it here? 583 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: I heard someone say it's like, you know, these other countries, 584 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 2: whether it's China with their fentanyl or Venezuela, whatever country 585 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: you want to put onto it, like their job sort 586 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: of is to destabilize us. Our job is to not 587 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 2: be destabilized. 588 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: Like, no, you're you're exactly right. And I don't think 589 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: first of all, China and people do. I don't know 590 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 1: how much time you spend in Northeast Asia, but very 591 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: few Americans understand Asia it bears no resemblance to our world. 592 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: They could just as easily be on a different planet. 593 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: That's how different Asia is from the United States and 594 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: the West. The Chinese have no interest in a war 595 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: with us under any and all sort of says. They 596 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: don't want a war with anybody. If the Chinese live 597 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: in fear of something, I think they live in fear 598 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: that the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy will come back. 599 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they fear us militarily now. They are 600 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: prudent people, and we have made it very clear that 601 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: if we choose to do so, we can block all 602 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: of China's ports. We've threatened those things in the past. 603 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: We have been very, very aggressive towards China militarily. So 604 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: the Chinese have invested heavily in this One Belt one Road. 605 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: And what is One Belt one Road. It's a Eurasian 606 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 1: network of transportation and communication that the United States Navy 607 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 1: can't distrust. Right, They've done what they can to protect 608 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: themselves against the things that we might do to them. 609 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: I don't think President Trump wants anything to do with 610 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: the war against China, and I think privately he's figured 611 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: out if you tried to defend Taiwan against a determined 612 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: attack by the Chinese. You're going to lose, right, that's 613 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: six thousand miles from the United States. This was the 614 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: problem with going to Ukraine. Where is Ukraine? It's on 615 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: Russia's doorstep. Who are we kidding? That's a war they 616 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: can't lose. That's like saying, well, the Russians and the 617 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: Chinese are going to jointly develop a Mexican military establishment 618 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: designed to invade the United States and retake the lost 619 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 1: territories from the Mexican War in eighteen forty six. Yeah, 620 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: good luck, we could crush that quickly. They're not stupid. 621 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: So you know, there's an awful lot of irrational behavior. 622 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: There's too much emotion, not enough thinking, and not enough 623 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: honesty about what the hell are problems are. 624 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 2: Doesn't it look like there's been a renewed push maybe 625 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 2: for this if you call it the Monroe doctrine, but 626 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 2: sort of it seems like Trump has been saying, Okay, 627 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 2: we're done being over all over the world, done in 628 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 2: the East in China, and let's just focus on the 629 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: northern hemisphere. 630 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: No, he didn't say northern, he said western. 631 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, that yeah, that's what talk is. 632 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: Cheap bart sounds great, Let's see what happens. That's my 633 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 1: first remark. Come awful lot of hot air in Washington 634 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: about doing things or not doing things, and I've been 635 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: listening to it for decades, So I think, you know, 636 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: these are great ideas. Let's see some implementation. Sure, there's 637 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: nothing in that National Security Strategy that talks about implementation. 638 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: There is no framework for action. They're just assertions. This 639 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: is the way I feel. I don't think we should 640 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: be there. Great, I don't think we should be there either. Okay, 641 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: so now what you know? This is the so what now? 642 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 1: What the now? What is missing? And I think that's 643 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: what we need desperately. Now maybe he'll provide that, but 644 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. 645 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: It goes back to how you opened up and about 646 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: you know, now whatever fifty sixty years of endless money 647 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 2: printing and what all the consequences of that, one of 648 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 2: which you pointed out very correctly, which is this massive 649 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 2: expansion of the bureaucracy inside the government and all of that, 650 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 2: and so you kind of get to this point where 651 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 2: we're at now. It's like, you know, the government's not 652 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 2: a monolith, so It's like, there could certainly be many 653 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: people who would be happy to sort of withdraw back 654 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 2: to the Western hemisphere. But to your point, you know, 655 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 2: we got the neocons, the warmongers, you have the bureaucracy, 656 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 2: and so I'm guessing it's much harder than it sounds, right, 657 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 2: easier said than done sort of thing. 658 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not sure that you can do it with 659 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: the current government that we've got. And remember that you 660 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: do have a number of forces inside the government, in 661 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: the court system, on the hill, inside the federal bureaucracy, 662 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: who are going to fight you to the death because 663 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: you are potentially telling them you may not have a 664 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 1: job here anymore. Things are about to change, Our policies 665 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: are about to change. Yeah, it's like you get into 666 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: a discussion about illegal immigration. Oh, I don't think we 667 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: should have borders. Everyone who wants to come here should 668 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: be allowed to come here. 669 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 2: Okay, great, yeah. 670 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: And we all know that's not going to work. But 671 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: then you say, well, wait a minute, why can't we 672 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: hire Americans to do these jobs? Oh, Americans don't want 673 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 1: to do that. Well, you know, I have two sons, 674 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: and when they were growing up, they went to work. 675 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: You know, where they worked. They worked at a large 676 00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:02,280 Speaker 1: food produce store, something like Giant Orter, and they stacked 677 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: vegetables and they recovered carts. They did all the things 678 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: that Americans don't want to do. You know, that's nonsense. Secondly, 679 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: one of them went into it, you know, and he 680 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: did very well. And he worked in a company where 681 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: he was one of three or four Americans in a 682 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 1: company of four hundred people from India. And he came 683 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: back to me and he said, you know, Dad, we 684 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: don't have to bring in these Indians. There are Americans 685 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: who will do these jobs. But he says, you've got 686 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: to pay them a living wage. Right, these people are 687 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: brought over here, they're paid nothing. They're treated badly by 688 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: their own people. He said, it's awful. He didn't like 689 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,760 Speaker 1: it at all. And he said, these are not bad people. 690 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: But he said, I can go out this afternoon and 691 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: find ten Americans for twenty or thirty foreigners, and they'll 692 00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: do the soft software work, the coating. If we're engineering 693 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: all of that extremely well. We have a lot of 694 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: schools now that have set up excellent training courses to 695 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: train Americas to do these things. Yeah, so we got 696 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: to get out of this. Well, if you say that 697 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: you're a racist, if you say that you're this, you know, 698 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm so tired of hearing people called Nazis, communists, racists, whatever, bigots. 699 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: These people don't know what they're talking about. 700 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think it's two part, and you're 701 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 2: absolutely right. But the second part of that is that 702 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 2: when you're paying people fifty sixty thousand dollars a year 703 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 2: to sit at home and do nothing, they also don't 704 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 2: want to go do that job. Why would I want 705 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 2: to go stack produce for fifteen twenty bucks an hour 706 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 2: when I can just make thirty forty bucks an hour 707 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 2: doing nothing. And then with the immigration then, you know, 708 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 2: is something like sixty I hate I want to be 709 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 2: fact checked it on my own show, but it was 710 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 2: something like sixty five percent of illegal immigrants were like 711 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 2: on welfare. 712 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's that's because we don't even have control 713 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: of the social security system. Remember when Elon Musk went 714 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: there with his team and then he was castigated and 715 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: attacked by everybody for turning up the truth. Yeah, you 716 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: know that what you had twenty million, thirty million, forty 717 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: million people receiving benefits that didn't even. 718 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 2: Exist, and I looked like, so we have immigration rules 719 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 2: that have I mean, and our founding fathers talked about 720 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 2: the dangers of bringing in too many immigrants at one 721 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 2: time that couldn't assimilate, so that we've been talking about 722 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 2: this since the founding of the country. And currently there's 723 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 2: a rule I believe it's only six hundred and fifty 724 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 2: thousand immigrants per year, and over the last five years 725 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 2: we've doubled that legally and then illegally it's, you know whatever, 726 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 2: it's ten to fifteen million. 727 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: On top of that, Well, here's here's a factoid for you. 728 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: And I'm trying to find the book here because I've 729 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: found it so useful. I've learned so much about it. 730 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: It's about the growth of the United States. It explains 731 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: our climb to economic power, and it points out that 732 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: our greatest leap economically as a scientific industrial power occurred 733 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 1: between nineteen twenty four and nineteen seventy. And the author 734 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: points out that from nineteen twenty four until the nineteen fifties, 735 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: we had no immigration none. However, we did have a 736 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: law on the books, and it was called the Exceptional 737 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: Skills Act, and that law said that if the individual 738 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: who wants to come into the country, has skills and 739 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: abilities that we can utilize, it can be a benefit 740 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 1: to the American society, then that person could be admitted. 741 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: That's how we cut Einstein. I mean, if you start 742 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 1: going down the list of the people that did come in, 743 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: they were superstars, they were wonderful. And then immigration starts 744 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: to pick up again. But then in nineteen sixty five 745 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: we changed the laws. We threw a lot of things out, 746 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 1: we opened the floodgates. It didn't really affect us until 747 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties. Frankly, I remember that Ronald Reagan then 748 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: issued amnesty to all of the people from Latin America 749 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 1: that were here illegally. And they said, well, that'll solve 750 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: the problem. Nobody'll come anymore. 751 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 2: Right. 752 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: That's when it's spiked, Right, so you know, the immigration 753 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: thing is not what it appears to be. And now 754 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: if all of the projections and predictions for AI are accurate, 755 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: then the last thing you need are people coming into 756 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: this country that don't read and write, even in their 757 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: own languages. People that are not skilled, people are not 758 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: well educated. Somebody said, well, you just don't like Mexicans. 759 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: I said, no, I'll stand on the border and invite 760 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: every Mexican into the United States that has a degree 761 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: and applied mathematics you know, science, technology, engineering, mathematics by 762 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: the way, and preferably speaks English. They said, well, that's unreasonable. No, 763 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: it isn't. More people in China speak English than inside 764 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: the United States. 765 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 2: What Yah. Wow, that's a shocking. 766 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: More people in China could speak English than speak English here. 767 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: That's if you have three hundred and fifty million and 768 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: you assume that everybody speaks English, there are more Chinese 769 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: that speak English than we have living in the United States. Wow. 770 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 2: People, that's a shocking statistic. 771 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: I think there's there's no excuse for not speaking English anymore. 772 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: We could, we could set that standard. 773 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 2: The world has, you know, and probably social media as 774 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure very uh partly or massively to blame for this, 775 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 2: But we've lost the ability to have even to civil discourse, 776 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 2: but more specifically like nuance where it's like I can 777 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 2: be one hundred percent pro immigration, that could be one 778 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 2: hundred percent promegration, but not want to bring everybody like 779 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,280 Speaker 2: we get to separate those two things. 780 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,479 Speaker 1: Well, I think I understand your point, but I think 781 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: we're beyond that now I think things are going to 782 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: get ugly. Yeah, and again it's back to the economy, right, 783 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: you know, we've hollowed out the economy. Now now we're 784 00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: talking about AI and people are saying already that A 785 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: is going to cause massive layoffs. I've seen predictions for 786 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: the coming year. Well, if that's true, we really have 787 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: to sit down and very carefully scrutinize who is here. 788 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: We think there are fifty two million people inside the 789 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: United States who were not born here, and of that number, 790 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,919 Speaker 1: we may have thirty plus million that are illegal. Right, Well, 791 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: if we're looking at this AI avalanche, it's going to 792 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: fall on everybody and it's going to eliminate jobs. What 793 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: are we doing in immigration? 794 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 2: It's a serious conversation that needs to be had. I 795 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 2: want to jump back a little bit more. We'll stick 796 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,479 Speaker 2: in the Western hemisphere topic you've been talking about quite 797 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 2: quite a bit lately, and I'm pretty interested in. You know, 798 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 2: hopefully we've talked about the rust of Ukraine thing, and 799 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,399 Speaker 2: to your point, it's already been resolved, we just don't 800 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 2: know it yet. But now we have this situation going 801 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 2: on in Venezuela. You know, there's a lot of attack 802 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 2: going on with Trump and Hegsath because you know they're 803 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 2: bombing the narco boats and what's your take on what's 804 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,439 Speaker 2: going on? Why are we involved in trying to take 805 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 2: out drug boats? There? Is it more than just drugs 806 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 2: in your opinion. 807 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 1: I don't think the drug business has much to do 808 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: with it. You can certainly make an argument that the 809 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: banks in Venezuela have helped to launder money involved in 810 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: the drug trade, but then again, you could make that 811 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 1: argument about Hong Kong, Grand Cayman. I think this has 812 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: more to do with, frankly, resources, especially when you look 813 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 1: at oil, gas, gold mines, emerald minds, rare earths, and 814 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: so forth. I do think there are people in Washington 815 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: that truly believe that if we can install a puppet 816 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: government down there that will be responsive to us, that 817 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: we can then gain undisrupted, uninterrupted access to all of 818 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,800 Speaker 1: those resources, and that those resources could even be collateralized 819 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: and perhaps help to offset this tremendous debt problem that 820 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: plagues us. I'm not sure how you do that. I 821 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: haven't figured it out. And the other thing is that 822 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: even if you were able to get in there and 823 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: put a government in that you say is friendly to you. 824 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: It's Missus Moschado or whomever else. How do you stop 825 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 1: the people that decide they don't like you and don't 826 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,439 Speaker 1: want you and start to blow up your oil rigs, 827 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: who throw explosives into you know, mines. The country's enormous. 828 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: It's the size of Germany, Austria, France combined. The population, 829 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: depending upon which source you go to, is twenty eight 830 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,760 Speaker 1: point five million to thirty million. I mean, this is enormous. 831 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: It has one thousand, three hundred and eighty mile border 832 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,760 Speaker 1: with Colombia, a one thousand three hundred mile border roughly 833 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: with Brazil if you go in there. The Colombians have 834 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: already said that they'll support the Venezuelas against us, even 835 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: though they don't like the Venezuelans. They have real conflicts 836 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,280 Speaker 1: the Brazilians. They they have perhaps fifty to one hundred 837 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,800 Speaker 1: thousand paramilitaries that they can send across the border from Brazil. 838 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 1: I mean, we want to turn this into some sort 839 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: of Latin American crusade against the evil Yankees who are 840 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 1: back trying to exploit us. I mean, I think that's 841 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 1: a bad idea. I don't see this being necessary or good, 842 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 1: but again, another reason that's given. We have to show 843 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 1: those Chinese and Russians we're in charge and they need 844 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: to get out of Venezuela. Okay, good luck with that. 845 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: Let's assume that you can do that. What's going to 846 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: prevent them from coming back. You know, five years from 847 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: now or ten years from now. We do live on 848 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 1: a planet that is increasingly globalized. Trade is globalized, commercial 849 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: activity is globalized. We're all doing business. Surely there's a 850 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 1: way to resolve some of this tension. You mentioned the 851 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: Monroe doctrine. I'm glad you did, because everybody's been taught 852 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,360 Speaker 1: for years how important this is. When President Monroe mentioned that, 853 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 1: everybody nodded and thought this was interesting. But at the 854 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 1: time when he was president, everybody knew we had no army. 855 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 1: We had great little navy. It was no way for 856 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: us to enforce any of it. The first time it 857 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,800 Speaker 1: comes up for serious discussion, believe it or not, is 858 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 1: in the nineteen twenties, and people said, well, we've got 859 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 1: to be sure that our hemisphere is free of infiltrators. 860 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: That could be anarchists, communists, socialists, later on fascists and 861 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: so forth. But it never had that much teeth, and 862 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: I think we're deluding ourselves. I don't think we can 863 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,359 Speaker 1: wall off South America or Central America from everybody who's 864 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: not any Western hemisphere. 865 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 2: What about you know, General Mike Flynn has been talking 866 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 2: about color revolution happening inside the United States. We see 867 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 2: there's the Seditious Six that are telling the military that 868 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 2: could stand down and not you disobey unconstitutional orders. So 869 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 2: we see these things going on. You talked about Pritzer 870 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 2: saying ICE is A is a terrorist organization. So this 871 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 2: so this idea that Mike Flynn is talking about. General 872 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 2: Flynn is talking about with this Color Revolution, and there's 873 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 2: a lot of people talking about how Venezuela is it's 874 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 2: not about the resources there, it's really about their role 875 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 2: in this deep state, in this CI black ops. We 876 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 2: have this l POYO. You know, there's a couple people 877 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 2: who have now come from Venezuela that are giving the 878 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,879 Speaker 2: US intel on this, and it seems that maybe this 879 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,320 Speaker 2: is an attack on resource, it's more about an attack 880 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,359 Speaker 2: on that deep state kind of shutting down this insurrection. 881 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 2: Have you seen that? Do you think there's any you know, 882 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 2: smoke fire there. Governments will never stop printing money, so 883 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 2: inflation it's not going away. 884 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 1: Now. 885 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 2: If your money's not earning at least ten percent a year, 886 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 2: you're losing purchasing power. Now, that's why I talk about bitcoin. 887 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,280 Speaker 2: It's the number one way to beat inflation and secure 888 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 2: your future. And the question I get asked almost every 889 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 2: day is where do you buy your bitcoin? 890 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: Now? 891 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 2: For years, I've personally use River dot Com and I 892 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 2: only take on sponsors that I use and I trust, 893 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 2: and I trust them because River's bitcoin only. They have 894 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 2: one hundred percent reserve, and they keep your bitcoin safe 895 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 2: in cold storage with no middlemen, and you can actually 896 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 2: talk to a real person, a US based support dedicated manager. Now, 897 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,479 Speaker 2: try getting that peace of mind from coinbase. Of course 898 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 2: you can't. Now the perks. If you set up auto buys, 899 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,879 Speaker 2: you can pay zero fees plus instead of you're bank 900 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 2: paying you, you know, zero point four percent on cash. 901 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 2: River pays you three point seventy five percent on cash 902 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,839 Speaker 2: paid in bitcoin. So if you're ready to build your 903 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 2: bitcoin position with confidence, go to River dot com, slash 904 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 2: Mark Moss and get up to one hundred dollars in 905 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 2: bitcoin when you sign up. Because freedom starts when you 906 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 2: own your money and your money starts with bitcoin. 907 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: Well, I'm familiar with the allegation that Dominius software was 908 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: developed under Hugo's Chabez for his purposes, and that it 909 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,320 Speaker 1: was used in the United States allegedly to rig the 910 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,360 Speaker 1: last election or the next to last election for the 911 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,919 Speaker 1: presidency against Trump. I don't know. I mean, that could 912 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: be the case. I just don't know very much about it. 913 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: I do know that there was a lot of irregularity 914 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 1: and there still is in the system in the United States. 915 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: I think voting integrity is a huge issue, a very, 916 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 1: very difficult thing to deal with, and I don't think 917 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 1: it was solved this last time around. Beyond that, I 918 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: don't know now as far as the six senators and congressmen, 919 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 1: whatever they were, you know, that was a shameless attempt 920 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 1: to undermine the authority of the commander in chief, the 921 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: president of the United States. That's all. You don't have 922 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 1: to follow an order, Well, I've got news for you. 923 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 1: If you're in the regular armed forces of the United States, 924 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 1: you damn wellware and have to follow the order. Now illegal, Well, 925 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: what illegal order are you being issued? I did not 926 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 1: have illegal orders issued to me. Well, I was on 927 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,720 Speaker 1: active duty for twenty eight years. However, I did see 928 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: a case of an illegal order that was favorably resolved. 929 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: But it's a very difficult proposition. Now what they were 930 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: talking about should be divorced from what we now know 931 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: about these drug boats. First of all, if you follow 932 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,439 Speaker 1: our own law of war, in our own national law, 933 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 1: we should not be destroying these boats in international orders. 934 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 1: Somebody sent me an email and said, well, there's no 935 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: flag on it. If there's no flag, it's free game. 936 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 1: You can blow them up. No, you cannot. We are 937 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,359 Speaker 1: not under our own laws. We're not even talking about 938 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 1: the wooden closed to the law of the sea. I'm 939 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: talking about American law. You do not have the right 940 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,800 Speaker 1: in the United States Navy or Coastguard to simply see 941 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 1: a vessel and say, well, it's not flying a flag, 942 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,839 Speaker 1: so we can blow it up. Now, under certain circumstances, 943 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: you can board it and inspect it. And one of 944 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 1: the things that we have not seen since this got 945 00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 1: underwagh is any attempt to stop board and inspect. And 946 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm very suspicious of that. You know, this take no 947 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 1: prisoner's approach, which is allegedly what happened kill the remaining 948 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,840 Speaker 1: two that are alive strikes me as an attempt to 949 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 1: ensure no one can survive and explain who or what 950 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,799 Speaker 1: they are. And you know, I don't know if you 951 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 1: know this or not, but in war as well as 952 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 1: in peace time, you always want to capture people. That's 953 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 1: how you find things out. So at I been there, 954 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 1: my concern was absolutely, rescue these people. Let's find out 955 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,839 Speaker 1: who they are, where did they come from? And you 956 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 1: can do that. But I'm beginning to think that people 957 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 1: don't want to find out that particular truth because we 958 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 1: know historically if you go to the DEA's website, look 959 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: at Venezuela, Mexico, these other places, less than four percent 960 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 1: of the illegal drugs that do come out of Venezuela 961 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: come to the United States. Whatever does, for the most part, 962 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,439 Speaker 1: goes to Africa and Europe. Now I'm not saying that's 963 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,359 Speaker 1: a good thing. We don't care about the rest of it. 964 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: But if you compare the fentanyl influx into the United 965 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 1: States it comes out of Mexico, it's nothing. And quite 966 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,799 Speaker 1: recently there was a raid up on Port City called 967 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 1: Traverse Port City in Michigan. They found three point eight 968 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: tons of drugs, most of it was fentanyl. It had 969 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: come in through Michigan from the Great Lakes, from the 970 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 1: Sinaloa cartel in Mexico. Now, this was a brilliant operation. 971 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,280 Speaker 1: People should look into it, the federal marshals, the local 972 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 1: police ever. I mean, it was a great operation. We 973 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: were successful. But my point is that's where we need 974 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 1: to focus, not in Venezuela. Bombing Venezuela, I would argue, 975 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 1: bombing Mexico is not going to help us deal with 976 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 1: this drug prom Sealing off the border, keeping people out, 977 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 1: and by the way, we have a huge problem at 978 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 1: the legal crossing points because we don't pay customs off, 979 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,839 Speaker 1: let alone border patrol. But enough money, right and what 980 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: happens is the cartail comes in and we'll pay you 981 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars extra a month. Just let this truck through. 982 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 1: What's he going to do? You know, we're not realistic 983 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: about these things. We have not sealed off the coastlines 984 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,840 Speaker 1: by any means. These semi submersibles have been around for years, 985 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 1: they continue to operate. They could bring in all sorts 986 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 1: of things, people, drugs. One of the things when I 987 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: was involved in this down in Key West and join 988 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 1: Integrated Task Force South Chiada South and Joint Inner Agency 989 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 1: Task Force South. Excuse me, we were very worried about 990 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: the possibility that people infected with terribly infectious and dangerous, 991 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 1: deadly diseases could be brought in on semi submersibles right 992 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 1: into mobile bay, off loaded in mobile bay, and then 993 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: wander around in the United States until suddenly somebody starts 994 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: it becomes very ill, and they discover wow, my god, 995 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,399 Speaker 1: it's smallpox, right, and then you find that how many 996 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: people is this person touched and being there? I mean, 997 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 1: this is a big deal border and coastal security. And 998 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 1: then you go to the airports and what are we 999 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,760 Speaker 1: doing in the airports. I'm not saying we're doing nothing. 1000 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is you've got to enforce this. You've 1001 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 1: got to enforce the law there, but you got to 1002 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 1: enforce the law inside the United States. What do you 1003 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 1: do when you catch two men that have thirteen children, 1004 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: little children that are being trafficked, that are brought up 1005 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: from Mexico and you catch them in Phoenix, Arizona. What 1006 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 1: do you do with a truck driven by two people 1007 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,879 Speaker 1: and they're bringing up enormous quantities of drugs? They pull 1008 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 1: into a warehouse and the drug peddlars come in to 1009 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: collect their wares so they can disseminate them, and you 1010 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 1: capture them. They're all found guilty in a court of 1011 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,760 Speaker 1: law or as you take them to court and they're guilty, 1012 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 1: what do you do with them? 1013 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 2: Wow? 1014 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 1: I mean I would execute them. And people say, oh, 1015 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 1: it's too much, that's harsh. You want to stop it, right, 1016 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 1: Every law enforcement officer I've spoken to and asked, what 1017 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,800 Speaker 1: if we made the penalty death for trafficking and children 1018 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 1: and women trafficking drugs? Bring it in? Oh, well, gee, 1019 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 1: it would stop. 1020 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. You can just look at the countries with the 1021 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 2: harshest penalties on crime, and then look at the crime statistics. 1022 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 2: I saw in Singapore the other day. They're like publicly 1023 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 2: caning people, you know, and they don't have any crime. 1024 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 2: In Singapore, nobody wants to be publicly caned. And so 1025 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 2: I'm certainly for much much harsher criminal penalties for sure, 1026 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 2: especially when it comes to trafficking women and children. I mean, 1027 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 2: it's just like the most heinoused evil type of crime 1028 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 2: that you could even imagine. 1029 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 1: But if you're losing three hundred thousand dead a year 1030 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 1: in the United States defendant the right, What are you 1031 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 1: going to do? Don't we have an obligation to protect 1032 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 1: our citizens. 1033 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 2: Well, that's the only obligation of the government, right, Yeah, 1034 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 2: But even if they. 1035 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 1: We have to protect the citizens from themselves. I mean, obviously, 1036 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 1: the choice to use drugs is a badwin. Fentanyl is deadly, right. 1037 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 1: We can't stop everything, but should we not try to 1038 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 1: stop that? 1039 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 2: And unfortunately, you know, I mean, this is a much 1040 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 2: deeper conversation, but you know, I have kids, teenage kids, 1041 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 2: and unfortunately, they know several people who have died of 1042 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 2: fentanyl in high school. None of them went to do fentanyl. 1043 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 2: They were doing, you know, something, They thought they're doing 1044 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 2: some other type of drug or pill, and it just 1045 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 2: happened to have the fentanyl in there. And so part 1046 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,919 Speaker 2: of me thinks, well, I don't think and I don't 1047 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 2: know statistics on this, but from what I've seen personally, 1048 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 2: like nobody's going out to do fentanyl. It's that all 1049 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 2: the other drugs are so underground that they accidentally get it. 1050 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 2: And so maybe if we had more liberal drug laws 1051 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 2: like you see in other countries, where kids, teenage kids 1052 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,959 Speaker 2: weren't going underground to get something and then accidentally dying, 1053 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 2: maybe that could stop it. But yeah, it's a whole 1054 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 2: deeper conversation. 1055 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 1: Well, the society is an experiment with this sort of 1056 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 1: thing produced some interesting outcomes obviously. You know, China was 1057 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 1: forced to accept opium at gunpoint by the Royal Navy, 1058 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 1: and we the Vanderbilts and others made billions of dollars 1059 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 1: from the opium trade. That almost destroyed China as a nation, 1060 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 1: and so they subsequently implemented very harsh measures to stop 1061 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 1: the opium epidemic. More recently, you can go to a 1062 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 1: place like the Netherlands and see large numbers of people 1063 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 1: that are engaged in all this sort of legal activia. 1064 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,480 Speaker 1: My only experience with the Netherlands was with the military, 1065 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:41,439 Speaker 1: and it was terrible, and they were as remote from 1066 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: readiness to fight and kill anybody as almost anyone I've 1067 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 1: ever seen. They're not bad people, but I think this 1068 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 1: sort of drug dependency or to use for it's a 1069 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 1: dangerous thing. If you're trying to maintain an effected society, 1070 00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 1: you're trying to organize, train and educate people to be 1071 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 1: productive members of society, You're never going to have one 1072 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 1: hundred percent success. But when you do that with drugs, 1073 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 1: you're you're probably going to have a lot less success. Yeah, 1074 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. My friends out in Colorado tell me 1075 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 1: that it's been a disaster. 1076 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems to be the case. Well, let's go 1077 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 2: ahead and wrap this up. Man, We've covered so much ground, 1078 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 2: and I really appreciate you taking the time maybe to 1079 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 2: kind of bring this kind of together and summarize this 1080 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 2: for sort of my main audience thinking about macroeconomic and 1081 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 2: business owners investors. When you think about this and the 1082 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 2: shifting world order that we've talked about, you know, maybe 1083 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 2: the US kind of reaching into its row, NATO potentially falling, 1084 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 2: you know, these different conflicts that we have around the world. 1085 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 2: What would you think for the average you know, investor, entrepreneur, 1086 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 2: how should they be thinking about this over the next 1087 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 2: five to ten years, Like, how would how would you 1088 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 2: be preparing for these shifts if you were in their shoes? 1089 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,280 Speaker 1: Well, I would tell investors two things right off the bat. 1090 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 1: Demand that laws be enforced. You know, law enforcement is critical. 1091 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 1: We were very successful economically largely because we had almost 1092 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,320 Speaker 1: perfect rule of law in the United States. I'm not 1093 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: talking about every jury trial was wonderful. What I'm trying 1094 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 1: to say is that people came to this country, and 1095 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 1: I've talked to so many from different places, and I said, 1096 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,440 Speaker 1: what strikes you is most important about the United States? 1097 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 1: He said, oh, you could do business here? Yeah. I said, really, Oh, yes, 1098 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 1: you don't have to bribe anybody. You're not paying people 1099 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 1: under the table, you know, and you put your money 1100 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 1: down and you get what you paid for, and so 1101 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 1: forth so on. So the first thing, number one thing, 1102 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,520 Speaker 1: is demand law be enforced. The second thing I would 1103 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 1: tell them is end all these overseas military interventions. Dump 1104 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 1: this sanctions regime. We have something like thirty two to 1105 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,880 Speaker 1: thirty three countries under sanctions because somebody on the hill 1106 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 1: or somebody in the state department decide, well, we don't 1107 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 1: like them because they said mean things here where they 1108 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 1: entreat women nicely or they put bags on earth. Get 1109 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 1: rid of all that crap. 1110 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1111 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 1: In other words, get back to doing business with people, 1112 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,480 Speaker 1: not trying to impose our way of life, our values, 1113 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 1: our structure, our system on others. If you could get 1114 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 1: those two things straight, which is halt the wars, stop 1115 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 1: the sanctions, and enforce the law, I think that would 1116 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 1: be enormously beneficial to business because you don't. Right now, 1117 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 1: China has said, well, you know, if you're going to 1118 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 1: behave this way, you're not going to get any rare earth. Now, personally, 1119 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 1: I'm thankful because that makes us finally pull our heads 1120 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:41,440 Speaker 1: out of rectal territories and think seriously about you know, 1121 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:47,280 Speaker 1: rare earth. But having said that, what possible reason do 1122 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,120 Speaker 1: we have for that kind of hostility with China? The 1123 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 1: answer is none. And by the way, if you change 1124 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,480 Speaker 1: your approach there and then you turn to the police 1125 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,760 Speaker 1: agencies in China and say, we need some help because 1126 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,439 Speaker 1: we know that fentanyl and its ingredients and so forth 1127 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: are shipped, you know, down to Mexico and even into 1128 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 1: the United States. We'd like your help with that. You'd 1129 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,920 Speaker 1: be surprised. You'll probably get it. Everybody has problems. China 1130 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,920 Speaker 1: has got one point four billion people in it. Good 1131 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 1: Lord Ge wakes up every morning hoping, hoping that he 1132 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 1: can hold that country together. Yeah, it's not easy. 1133 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, good points. All right, Well, I think that's a 1134 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,960 Speaker 2: great place to end. We'll wrap it up there again, 1135 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,080 Speaker 2: Colonel I really appreciate you sharing all your insights and 1136 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 2: your experience and knowledge with us today. Anything that. I 1137 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,960 Speaker 2: know you create a lot of content here on You're 1138 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,919 Speaker 2: constantly making the rounds, and I appreciate your hard work there, 1139 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,440 Speaker 2: and I think you want to point attention to that 1140 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 2: people should be paying attention to, or that they can 1141 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 2: follow you with. 1142 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you get a chance, go to the website 1143 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 1: Nationalconversation dot org. We developed that last year. It's brand new, 1144 01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 1: it's a nonprofit. It's an attempt to try and chart 1145 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 1: a course into the future that is not part of 1146 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,600 Speaker 1: the Democratic or Republican parties. Frankly speaking, I'm one of 1147 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 1: these people that thinks we've reached a point where, contrary 1148 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,520 Speaker 1: to what they say, whatever you do, you're going to 1149 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 1: get pretty much the same outcome from both parties. We 1150 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,200 Speaker 1: need a different way forward, a different set of principles, 1151 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 1: different set of ideas, different set of priorities. The National 1152 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,480 Speaker 1: Conversation is designed to attract people to help us figure 1153 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 1: out what that is. It's not something where you come in. 1154 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's not what is it, Oh gosh, the 1155 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 1: Tom Cruise religion, what's that? 1156 01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,160 Speaker 2: Scientology? 1157 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,840 Speaker 1: We're not turning you into something like a scientologist. What 1158 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 1: we want to do is have you join us for 1159 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 1: various meetings that we're going to hold all over the country, 1160 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,000 Speaker 1: meetings and dinners. We're going to have speakers and then 1161 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,480 Speaker 1: we want to hear what you have to say. I 1162 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,760 Speaker 1: still think that's the best way to get forward. You 1163 01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 1: can't if you try to develop a new party structure, 1164 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:06,080 Speaker 1: a new third party from the top down, it will fail. Right, 1165 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 1: you need leadership, but you need people from the bottom 1166 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,920 Speaker 1: up who are committed to it. Yeah, and everybody is 1167 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,640 Speaker 1: saying it can't be done. It can't be done, it 1168 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,240 Speaker 1: can't be done. There's too much money in these other parties. Well, 1169 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 1: that's what people thought about the Republican Party, and it 1170 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:24,640 Speaker 1: didn't happen that way. The Republicans actually came into power. 1171 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:27,720 Speaker 1: And that's because of events over which you and I 1172 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,600 Speaker 1: have no control. We don't know what will happen in 1173 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 1: the next twelve months, and suddenly people based on the 1174 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,480 Speaker 1: events may decide, Gosh, these people over here with a 1175 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,040 Speaker 1: national conversation, they've got a good idea. We need to 1176 01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 1: go that way. 1177 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 2: I love that. I love that good idea. I'm gonna 1178 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,280 Speaker 2: make sure we'll link all that down below. I'm going 1179 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 2: to join it. I want to be involved in that. 1180 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 1: A national conversation, thank and good luck with those teenagers. 1181 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks so much, but