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Speaker 1: Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCray, and Newey Scrugs.
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Speaker 1: I haven't done this in a minute. I forgot. I
Speaker 1: forgot how to get here. For a second, I forget
Speaker 1: how to get here. I just haven't been down here.
Speaker 1: We've been able to have a couple of media things upstairs,
Speaker 1: but but not I've not been down here well over
Speaker 1: eight years. Players last, Players lined up. New Scrugs, longtime
Speaker 1: Cowboys reporter. That's Barry Church for Dallas Cowboys safety number
Speaker 1: forty two. Buddy Danny McRae. He's still on assignment, but
Speaker 1: we may have Danny next week. We're looking and hoping
Speaker 1: to have Danny next week here. So we're back here
Speaker 1: in the building here the SWBC Mortgage Studios to do
Speaker 1: our thing for the next hour. Now. We're we're pushed
Speaker 1: back an hour today because Scotboys rookie camp and we
Speaker 1: wanted to get out here and see exactly what was
Speaker 1: going on here in church. Yes, sir, this is where
Speaker 1: I'm going to lean on you because you've played the game.
Speaker 1: You were undrafted rookie. You know what a rookie minicamp means.
Speaker 1: That what these guys were out here. So give me
Speaker 1: your impressions of some of the guys you saw. Give
Speaker 1: me some some some guys he said, Oh I like this,
Speaker 1: and some guys you said, well, got a question mark.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, dive into it a little bit
Speaker 1: and um, well, first and first point, I'm glad they're
Speaker 1: having this rookie mini caamp. I mean, for so many
Speaker 1: guys out there, this is such an advantage. There's such
Speaker 1: an opportunity to make the team. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: when me and our other running Bate McCrae, came to
Speaker 1: rookie mini camp, we were only two safeties out there,
Speaker 1: so we had to take every single one on one red,
Speaker 1: every single team rep. I mean it was it was
Speaker 1: a brutal stretch right there, but I mean we made
Speaker 1: it all payoff because it helped us make the team.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad these guys are able to have the
Speaker 1: opportunity to go out there show what they got out
Speaker 1: there in front of these coaches, and this is just
Speaker 1: a building block, This is just a start of what
Speaker 1: they can do. So but when I looked at this game,
Speaker 1: when I looked out there at that practice, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you who I was extremely impressed with. And I
Speaker 1: didn't even know who the guy was. I didn't even
Speaker 1: know he existed. At first. I knew he was a
Speaker 1: draft pick that I didn't even know, like, you know,
Speaker 1: all right, he might be a camp body. But it
Speaker 1: was number thirty eight. And I don't want to. I
Speaker 1: do not want to butcher his last name. But his
Speaker 1: name is Israel, and I don't want to mukakama, mukuamo
Speaker 1: kuam you heard first, mum Reel Israel. He was the
Speaker 1: corner outside opposite of J. C. Horn down there in
Speaker 1: South Carolina, and they moved him back to free safety.
Speaker 1: And this is a big kid. It's a big six
Speaker 1: four two twelve, so he's he's a big guy, big kid,
Speaker 1: and they moved back to free safety. So I was
Speaker 1: looking at the dB drills, not just you know, bias
Speaker 1: at the safety. I'm looking at him, and this guy
Speaker 1: looked fluid. I'm talking about from the breaks. I mean,
Speaker 1: there was no false steps he wasn't stepping in the bucket.
Speaker 1: Everything just seemed to be a positive movement with this guy.
Speaker 1: His hips were extremely fluid. He had great ball skills.
Speaker 1: You know those coaches during those drills, they like the
Speaker 1: fire the ball, they the riflet thinking back in the day,
Speaker 1: thinking it is you know they Johnny United, I'm a
Speaker 1: getting and I mean this guy was catching everything. He
Speaker 1: looked extremely fluid. When they were doing the kind of
Speaker 1: mirror the receiver drills as a kind of a press
Speaker 1: coverage technique, he looked extremely like comfortable, like he was
Speaker 1: out there before. And that's what cast to become from
Speaker 1: his corner background that he had in South Carolina. But
Speaker 1: I'm loving what I've seen in this guy. I know
Speaker 1: it's early. I know everybody looks great when you just
Speaker 1: have shoulder, when you just have shorts and a helmet on,
Speaker 1: and everybody looks like they're the best athlete in the world.
Speaker 1: But from my time in the league, I can tell
Speaker 1: you that guy looks extremely fluid and I want to
Speaker 1: see what he can bring to the table for this defense,
Speaker 1: especially in that safety room where it seems to be
Speaker 1: up for grabs. It seems to be up for grabs
Speaker 1: outside of a strong safety position, so I want to
Speaker 1: see what he can do. Six round six, round pick
Speaker 1: twenty seven. And he looks good. He looked. I watched
Speaker 1: him the whole time. He looked good. And there was
Speaker 1: another guy, another safety back there. Because you know me,
Speaker 1: you know I love the defensive side. I love the secondary.
Speaker 1: So I focused a lot on the secondary of to day.
Speaker 1: And this is an undrafted dude. This guy was undrafted.
Speaker 1: I believe he was out of Purdue. But it's thirty
Speaker 1: nine Tyler Coyle if I'm not speaking his name wrong.
Speaker 1: I looked guy looked fluid as well. You could tell
Speaker 1: he had some experience. Back there's backpedal looked great, as
Speaker 1: transitions looked great. Now he's a little smaller of a guy,
Speaker 1: so we gotta see what he looks like when pads
Speaker 1: get back on. But overall, those two looked extremely impressive
Speaker 1: to me as far as fluid and just being able
Speaker 1: to getting in and out of their brakes catching the ball.
Speaker 1: They seem very natural out there. Now, once again, this
Speaker 1: is just in helmet, so we'll see what they looked
Speaker 1: like with pads come on. But both of those guys
Speaker 1: looked amazing to me out there. I don't want to
Speaker 1: see what they got later on in camp. But what
Speaker 1: was kind of I'm not gonna say it's disappointing. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say it's disappointing because the guy had a
Speaker 1: whole year off, you know, because he opted out of
Speaker 1: the coviding. But the first round pick, Mike Parsons, I mean,
Speaker 1: you can tell you have some explosiveness to him, but
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure that Cardio is all the way
Speaker 1: up to snuff. I mean, when I was watching him
Speaker 1: out there, it was it was early in practice. He
Speaker 1: had his you know, hands over his head. He had
Speaker 1: the kickstand going, and everybody that's an athlete and played football,
Speaker 1: y'all know what the kickstand is. That leg over leg
Speaker 1: so you can just kind of balance up with all
Speaker 1: you using all your muscles. Out there, he was breathing heavy,
Speaker 1: hands on the knees, shorts. It was just and then
Speaker 1: after every after every kind of rep they did, it
Speaker 1: wasn't like he did. He didn't have like that spring
Speaker 1: like oh bam, I just hit the sled. I got
Speaker 1: that spring. It was like, oh I just slid and
Speaker 1: it was kind of oozy. As coach Garrett what used
Speaker 1: to say it it's oozy. It wasn't snap. It was
Speaker 1: kind of oozy. So hoping he can get his cardio
Speaker 1: back up. So I was I was a tad bit
Speaker 1: not I don't want to say disappointed, but just like man,
Speaker 1: I thought he would come in with a little bit more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: small red flag. And there's a difference between you know,
Speaker 1: being in shape and in being in football shape. And
Speaker 1: we talked about this before the show. When you're out
Speaker 1: there working out, you know what to expect. You know, Oh,
Speaker 1: I got this. I can cruise through this part, go
Speaker 1: hard on this part, so you know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: But when you get into that football field and that
Speaker 1: football shape, you got coaches yelling at you non stop
Speaker 1: to go here, and hear that shape seems to get
Speaker 1: zapped quick. So I'm gonna give him the benefit of
Speaker 1: the doubt. It was the first little rookie camp. We'll
Speaker 1: see what he can do later on, but right now,
Speaker 1: it's kind of a short, little red flag for me. No,
Speaker 1: he just looks a little red flight. That's it. Well,
Speaker 1: I go back to something you just said, I don't
Speaker 1: played football a year. That's true. So that means not
Speaker 1: only you're not been, and I don't and just what
Speaker 1: you said, you don't care that he worked out with
Speaker 1: a trainer and they simulated some drills and maybe he
Speaker 1: even hired a professional coach to help him out. It's
Speaker 1: a whole other thing when you're out here in the team,
Speaker 1: are with the juice slowing, and then you're now giving
Speaker 1: instruction as well. And that was that next thing. I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about what you saw here at manicamp,
Speaker 1: because now guys are learning voscot. This is different. This
Speaker 1: is not the same thing. They ran. The speed, the temple,
Speaker 1: everything goes up another notch here, Oh yeah, it goes
Speaker 1: up another notch. And right now, it's kind of cool
Speaker 1: because you're, you know, you're you're amongst your rookies, and
Speaker 1: you're amongst the first year guys. You guys are all
Speaker 1: kind of in the same boat. But when those veteran
Speaker 1: guys get out there and it ramps up a little
Speaker 1: bit and you see how they're going one hundred miles
Speaker 1: an hour in each direction, that's when it kind of
Speaker 1: get you a little flustered as you're a rookie, like
Speaker 1: I gotta go here, I gotta go there. That's when
Speaker 1: you gotta find that leader. That guy. For me, it
Speaker 1: was Gerald cincinbad for me, it was you know those
Speaker 1: type of guys I kind of kind of led behind,
Speaker 1: let them, let them go by example when I just
Speaker 1: kind of fed off of what they were doing. So
Speaker 1: these rookies now, I mean, it's it's it's a little
Speaker 1: bit easier because you're you're amongst your peers and you know,
Speaker 1: you guys are you know, don't know what to expect
Speaker 1: out there. But once everybody comes to as a team together,
Speaker 1: that's when it's gonna ramp up a little bit, and
Speaker 1: coaches are gonna they're gonna gonna let you know, they're
Speaker 1: gonna let you know, he's pick it up here, pick
Speaker 1: it up there. They ain't going to sugarcoat things like
Speaker 1: when you're all amongst your rookies. So I mentioned to
Speaker 1: see what they can do when it comes to that point.
Speaker 1: But right now, I mean, it was it was a
Speaker 1: it was a good first start. It was a good
Speaker 1: first start. So I was watching Parsons out there, and
Speaker 1: also I was checking out jabrelle Cox, m linebacker from Ali.
Speaker 1: He was that big, so I thought he was my size,
Speaker 1: but he got some size to him. He bought two
Speaker 1: thirty something, and George Edwards was basically, even though he's
Speaker 1: not the linebacker coach, he's basically leading all the linebacker
Speaker 1: drills and out there teach him. So I paid attention
Speaker 1: to him a little bit. Also put my eyes on
Speaker 1: number twenty four, Kelvin Joseph, so I was looking at
Speaker 1: him in Nashan right the other corner, the third third
Speaker 1: round pick. They took number ninety nine overall, six foot
Speaker 1: four from Oregon State, And it was just interesting because
Speaker 1: there's one drill they were running out there, so you
Speaker 1: had you had Easy and Nashan the Sean right there
Speaker 1: next to each other, like they're very tall. And then
Speaker 1: it was and then it was a little because I
Speaker 1: wrote his name down here. It was the running back
Speaker 1: Nick Ralston. So Nick Rawlston, the six foot full back
Speaker 1: from Louisiana was standing next to him. Yes, I was like,
Speaker 1: these corners, these corners, they were the corner safe. They
Speaker 1: are big. So that is something that that really kind
Speaker 1: of stood out to me as I watched rookie camp
Speaker 1: and then the other thing with the quarterbacks here. So
Speaker 1: the quarter iually brought in JT. Barrett of Ohio State fame,
Speaker 1: who's from which a tall Texas? Which which a tall
Speaker 1: false Texas where the Cowboys used to whole training camp
Speaker 1: and then Brady Davis quarterback out of an Illinois state.
Speaker 1: Not good? Yeah good. When I was looking, you know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of reminded me of when the Nucci went
Speaker 1: out there for that Philadelphia game on Sunday night and
Speaker 1: you just looking and you're just like, man, he just
Speaker 1: ain't got it. Well, I mean the tough part is
Speaker 1: the pastors. What you said, you just saw inaccurate passage,
Speaker 1: and it was there was no rush. That's the thing
Speaker 1: that it was like. It's literally there's not even an
Speaker 1: offensive line in front of you. It's do your drop
Speaker 1: back or do your fake handoff, and then there's a
Speaker 1: coach standing right where you could throw the ball. And
Speaker 1: it was just a lot of air throws. I mean
Speaker 1: sometimes coach had to jump up and tip it with
Speaker 1: one hand to try to bring it in. I made it,
Speaker 1: and it shouldn't be like that when there's no rush,
Speaker 1: no amts to line. I mean, maybe the nerves got
Speaker 1: the better of them, you know, you know, first time
Speaker 1: out in the league, you know, they just got the
Speaker 1: star on your helmet, but it was just a lot
Speaker 1: of inaccuracies out there. Yeah. So so I'm also trying
Speaker 1: to check out semi Philco from Stanford, and it was
Speaker 1: it's just it was it was tough. I mean, the
Speaker 1: white receivers out there today, you had a tough job
Speaker 1: because the quarterbacks here were you know this clearly it's
Speaker 1: not Dak Prescott and you know, but it's it was.
Speaker 1: It was tough. And so it ain't like my boy
Speaker 1: double g out there. You no, no, no, no, no, literally,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's no, you're not. It's not Garrett Gilbert,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's it's an issue here. So
Speaker 1: that was the thing I took away from the quarterbacks here.
Speaker 1: Question real quick before we go on, are you comfortable
Speaker 1: Gilbert backing up be backing up Prescott out there. I'm
Speaker 1: not really worried about it. Now. I think what we'll
Speaker 1: see and you know this business come June first, Let's
Speaker 1: see who else is out here. Okay, that's right, that's
Speaker 1: who who else is gonna be out here? Um, they
Speaker 1: brought in Jeff Driscoll for a little business and they
Speaker 1: didn't sign him. And I'm like, good, yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: So so just let's see what we Every year, we
Speaker 1: know there's gonna be some players releases. You got that
Speaker 1: guy's on them, we're getting okay, can we grab him? Right?
Speaker 1: So so let's let's see what happens. And just like
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, you weren't expecting Andy Dalton to end up
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys last year, and so along the way,
Speaker 1: and I think of this from a backup standpoint. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you're a guy out there and you want to go,
Speaker 1: I want to check, go to the Cowboys. No state
Speaker 1: taxes can't beat it. Dak's probably gonna play because until
Speaker 1: last year he always played. That's exactly what Andy Dalt
Speaker 1: was thinking. Let me get just three f Romo's here,
Speaker 1: give me golf club. I know the game plan, I
Speaker 1: know what I need to do. He would literally come
Speaker 1: in every Monday, coward and we're coming every Monday. Who's
Speaker 1: ready to party? And I'm like, hold on, man, we
Speaker 1: just had a game. We're out here, dead tired floor.
Speaker 1: Kyle Lord's coming in. Happened? You know what's going on? Guys?
Speaker 1: What's up? I'm like, man, he had the job, he
Speaker 1: had to. I mean, he had it made right, right,
Speaker 1: so to me, I would think that in this whole
Speaker 1: backup market that you know, somebody loses a job and
Speaker 1: and and we know that as you go through coaching staff,
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna get free. I just believe at some point
Speaker 1: in time the Cowboys will find someone and they'll be
Speaker 1: an attractive destination for a guy who says, you know,
Speaker 1: man's a little check, no state taxes, hang out, chill
Speaker 1: out in Texas. Can always thought about being a Cowboy.
Speaker 1: I mean this is you can find that guy. You can't.
Speaker 1: You can't. And that's what I'm counting on Steven Jones
Speaker 1: and Will McClay to go find that guy. That guy
Speaker 1: I got, I got because through the years they found
Speaker 1: they have found that guy. I remember going back when
Speaker 1: Steve Burline was a backup quarterback for the Cowboys Detroit
Speaker 1: and Steve Burline has started a lot of games with
Speaker 1: the Raiders. I mean, this is a proven quarterback and
Speaker 1: rode the train a little bit. Um got a couple
Speaker 1: of starts in the next thing, you know, move moved on.
Speaker 1: He came in. Ain't thing, got a couple of starts in.
Speaker 1: Uh some I think Romank gotta hurt one of those
Speaker 1: you've got a couple starts in the you know, who's
Speaker 1: on his way living a good life, living a good life,
Speaker 1: living a good life. So that's so that's why, you know,
Speaker 1: let's let's just see where that where it plays out
Speaker 1: with a quarterback situation because I'm not I'm not, I'm
Speaker 1: not stressing on it, just because it's the cowboys and
Speaker 1: they're gonna get somebody, that's the bottom line. They're going
Speaker 1: to find someone to come in here and do this thing. Um.
Speaker 1: So I want to go back to Parsons. What you said,
Speaker 1: all right, Church, So you're saying shape is a condition
Speaker 1: a question for her at the conditioning, and you pose
Speaker 1: the topic, can can Laton Vanderesh Jayals? Can they hold
Speaker 1: off Parsons? Who by the way, you know, it's supposed
Speaker 1: to start off at middle linebacker, see and that And
Speaker 1: that's the thing where I'm like, I don't know. If
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, they're gonna be at Sam, I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, he's gonna start Sam and then they'll
Speaker 1: have Lve and they'll have a Jaalen Smith. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be the starters, but they have them at middle so
Speaker 1: they don't any't like they have them learning this base
Speaker 1: for three outside? Do they got in that middle right behind?
Speaker 1: Who is it Smith Righter? That's that's Vanderesh in the
Speaker 1: middle and then Smith is on as at the whill.
Speaker 1: I believe, well, that's what they had last year under
Speaker 1: Nolan and before that switched. I mean, in my opinion, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know. The first thing is good, get Vanderesh
Speaker 1: out that middle. Yeah, yeah, he get him out the
Speaker 1: middle with those neck problems. I mean subconsciously he might
Speaker 1: not even know it. He might just like I'm going
Speaker 1: full force. But right before the impact you can tell.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was kind of it was just dumb. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just it was just Mike. Mike Nolan did
Speaker 1: a disservice to the players. Yeah, I'm hoping Dan Quink
Speaker 1: could bring a little bit more than Mike Nolan did.
Speaker 1: But if he's at if Parsons is at that Mike,
Speaker 1: I'm saying Jalen's in trouble. Man. I'm saying Jalen is
Speaker 1: in trouble. If if Parsons is at that Mike and
Speaker 1: he's backing them up, I'm saying Jalen's in trouble. Because
Speaker 1: I'm thinking eventually this guy's goes. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it'll be weak one, but they're gonna push him on
Speaker 1: that field. I believe they're already hyping him up everywhere else.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at any type of social media ESPN,
Speaker 1: NFL netwhere anybody they're hyping this guy. He's already i think,
Speaker 1: leading the percentages from Rookie of the Year. And we
Speaker 1: didn't even stepped on the fail yead he talk Aboudy's
Speaker 1: gonna be defensive Rookie of the Year. So whoever's in
Speaker 1: that middle spot, whether it be LV GYM, they're in
Speaker 1: trouble because he's gonna get every opportunity to get that
Speaker 1: starting spot. Now, unless he comes out here and plays,
Speaker 1: you know, just just below average and not good there,
Speaker 1: then he'll be the backup. But if he comes out
Speaker 1: here it's any any type of respectable play, I think
Speaker 1: he'll be forced into that lineup. Either he's ready or not.
Speaker 1: I think he'll be forced into that lineup. We just
Speaker 1: gotta see what happens when he gets out there. And look,
Speaker 1: we know Vanderesh has a problem of availability. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is very true. So you know these are factors that
Speaker 1: you had to put it. This is why you've got
Speaker 1: Jabril Cox on this team and Michael Parsons on this team.
Speaker 1: You're two starting guys right now, and Layton Vanderesh and
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. Two years ago you thought you had You
Speaker 1: thought you had some some you know, perennial Pro Bowls.
Speaker 1: You thought this was a strength. Now it's a question mark.
Speaker 1: It is Jerry Jones, And we talked to Jerry lil
Speaker 1: But and Jerry spoke about you know, okay, hey, look
Speaker 1: there's there's some some competition here, even a little bit
Speaker 1: of pressure for Jalen Smith, which which is good. That's
Speaker 1: gett ready to gain. I'm tired of dudes being handed job.
Speaker 1: We saw what happened last year when there's no accountability
Speaker 1: and you got guys saying all types of stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: all right, hey, these coaches don't know how to coach
Speaker 1: or this that in the third you see you saw
Speaker 1: the film hundred say and then when Jalen says, just
Speaker 1: check the tape. We checked the tape and it's like
Speaker 1: you got guys running around you. It's so I love
Speaker 1: what they did as far as bringing in competition each
Speaker 1: level the line. We saw a couple of casualties already
Speaker 1: Antoine was is out of there because we brought in
Speaker 1: some defensive line We didn't have a guarantee. You ain't
Speaker 1: two million. You aren't gonna pay two million for a
Speaker 1: guy's at backup when you've already drafted dudes you can
Speaker 1: you know those guys are going for six hundred k
Speaker 1: and you got two million. It's just if you just
Speaker 1: ain't gonna do it. Ain't gonna do it. Didn't have
Speaker 1: the linebacker you got. You know, like you you just said,
Speaker 1: we got all that competition. What are we gonna do
Speaker 1: with Kiano Neil? Now you know we brought him in
Speaker 1: here five mill? Where does he play at? This is?
Speaker 1: This is for me why I think about Kiano Nil.
Speaker 1: I go back to what I've been talking by on
Speaker 1: the players not someone he knows the defense. That's true.
Speaker 1: So the fact that you know the defense gives you
Speaker 1: an advantage already. And also dan Quinn trusts you right now,
Speaker 1: if we're just being honest, dan Quinn can't trust any
Speaker 1: of these linebackers right now. You know, trust has trust
Speaker 1: has earned three ways. You need three things for trust, time, proof,
Speaker 1: and consistency. Kean O'Neil has that. These other guys have
Speaker 1: to demonstrate it to him. So to me, Keyan O'Neil
Speaker 1: is a guy that right now I pencil him in
Speaker 1: on the lineup because he knows what to do or
Speaker 1: where to be. Yeah, but do you see you see
Speaker 1: you think paying him five meal and just having him
Speaker 1: in like some type of sub packages, like that's a
Speaker 1: lot of money just for being in like a you know,
Speaker 1: let's get him in here, Let's get him in some
Speaker 1: dying let's get him you know, ten fifteen snaps a game,
Speaker 1: seventeen games, that's a that's a healthy one. That's a
Speaker 1: healthy long one. Yeah, seventeen games one, all right, so
Speaker 1: seventeen games, lake vanderesh? Can you write him down for seventeen?
Speaker 1: Could write him out for sixty? So you can't do that.
Speaker 1: Jayle Smith underperformed last year. He did, so you know,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna get? Maybe he's maybe you've let
Speaker 1: his fired. He's gonna go ahead and have it unbelievable. Maybe,
Speaker 1: but you've got too many question marks in my opinion
Speaker 1: to say, well, we're gonna go ahead and let him go.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go ahead and cut nah nah. To me,
Speaker 1: Neil is a guy that I'm gonna have him here
Speaker 1: until until someone shows me that he shouldn't be here.
Speaker 1: I just hope they don't move him back to You
Speaker 1: can't just twy body. You got too many bodies. No, hey,
Speaker 1: plus he can't I was talking abouty Hares and Rody
Speaker 1: say he can't cover. He can't cover. So if you
Speaker 1: put him in linebacker, fine, you can help himself. But
Speaker 1: do not have this guy covering anybody. So that's where
Speaker 1: once again you could trust your your your decordinator, Dan Quinn,
Speaker 1: because it's a player he knows, so you know him.
Speaker 1: You know the war, you know the wards. You know
Speaker 1: the great coaches understand the wards of their players, and
Speaker 1: they cover up the wards. So how do you cover
Speaker 1: up the ward for Neil? You don't put him back
Speaker 1: here and say you're trying to cover anybody. Put him
Speaker 1: up here closer to the box. So at least they
Speaker 1: already understand who and what was he is a lot
Speaker 1: of times last year I don't think Mike Nolan knew
Speaker 1: what he had because he I mean, because if you did,
Speaker 1: you would never have put in Layton Bander. I should
Speaker 1: middle linebacker, swift the wheel at the wheel what I want?
Speaker 1: What do I I mean to me, I go back
Speaker 1: to that Bear's Thursday Night game. I was a soldier
Speaker 1: field and you had duck on mental Trupisky turning through
Speaker 1: and around us, but but also going after Jalen. This
Speaker 1: was everywhere and he everywhere fifty four. It was like,
Speaker 1: I'm check, hey, target, Hey, Mike, fifty four, We're gonna
Speaker 1: target right. It was bad so so, but that was
Speaker 1: what he was doing. It's like that time when Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodders went out to the cheetoh twenty four. I'm going
Speaker 1: where's that? I'm going right there, And so that's what
Speaker 1: Trubisky was doing a Janiel. So so we know this
Speaker 1: is not the strength of him. And that's where I
Speaker 1: go back to as a coach. And it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what any sport, your coaches are supposed to figure out,
Speaker 1: what are the wards the team? How do you cover
Speaker 1: them up? And I thought Mike Nolan didn't do a
Speaker 1: good job and putting these guys in their best positions.
Speaker 1: And so that's your hope that Dan Quinn this year
Speaker 1: can take the linebacking corps and put him in the
Speaker 1: proper position and get these guys rolling. I don't personally,
Speaker 1: I would hope that Neil made the team and could
Speaker 1: help coach the other guys you played with Sean Lee.
Speaker 1: What was one of the biggest benefits besides Sean when
Speaker 1: he was healthy playing it was Sean's ability to also
Speaker 1: helped coach. And it ain't even just his position. He would,
Speaker 1: I mean, he wouldn't know. He would let you the
Speaker 1: safety y'all gotta drop in here a corner, you got it.
Speaker 1: If you're on a nub side, meaning there's no receivers
Speaker 1: in just a tight end, you gotta fit the d gap.
Speaker 1: I mean, he would. And that's the benefit of plan
Speaker 1: with a guy like that, because it was just it
Speaker 1: made everything so much easier because it was just like
Speaker 1: everybody was communicating and everybody was on the same page.
Speaker 1: And hopefully, like you said, hopefully Keyan O'Neill or CAZy
Speaker 1: can bring that kind of that kind of calmness to
Speaker 1: a defense where if things are going crazy and people
Speaker 1: are like, I don't know what, everybody relaxed and you
Speaker 1: got this, you got that, and you get this Casey
Speaker 1: in the defensive backfield. So think of your last two levels.
Speaker 1: Last level, you got Kazy back here knows the defense
Speaker 1: knows what Dan Quinn wants, then over here the linebacker level,
Speaker 1: you got Neil who's gonna help your guys figure out
Speaker 1: what to do and where to go. Hey, Parson, is
Speaker 1: what we're looking for, LV, this is what they're looking
Speaker 1: This is what they're looking for, and that, to me
Speaker 1: is a big benefit. And Dan Quinn spoke about that
Speaker 1: after the draft the press conference I was at, so
Speaker 1: but I just I just believe that's a big emphasis
Speaker 1: and I just believe that's a big help. And to me,
Speaker 1: five million dollars for that is worth it. And hopefully
Speaker 1: he's that type of player where he's like, I'm an
Speaker 1: if I help everybody out and benefits the whole team,
Speaker 1: because there's some players out there that, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get on the field too, and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to make my staff and stay on the field,
Speaker 1: so I can't you know, I'll help you to some
Speaker 1: sort but I can't, you know, I can't divulge all that.
Speaker 1: So it just depends on the type of player he is,
Speaker 1: and hopefully he's one of those guys that, hey, come
Speaker 1: with me, I'll teach you to ropes, young guy. So
Speaker 1: hopefully he's that kind of because if it's the other
Speaker 1: way that. I mean, the team's just knock gonna, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna, you know, And that's a great point, and
Speaker 1: we'll find out. Find out, Yeah, find out. But so
Speaker 1: you've got that two players who know the defense, and
Speaker 1: I also go back to this where you've got dan
Speaker 1: Quinn bringing in two assistants who understand this defense at
Speaker 1: the front and the back. I just believe that these
Speaker 1: are opportunities where the Cowboys can help themselves. Or last
Speaker 1: year you just had so much dysfunction between the coaches
Speaker 1: and the players. Last year was bad. It was too
Speaker 1: much gray area. You know, people are talking about I
Speaker 1: don't like standing up and this, that and a third
Speaker 1: and every people didn't even know how to play cover
Speaker 1: three for the most part out there, and that's one
Speaker 1: of the most simple basic coverages there is. So I,
Speaker 1: you know, coaching the coaches, okay, so here's my only
Speaker 1: trying to coach the coaches. Now you also trying to
Speaker 1: coach the players. Yeah, So it was it was a mess.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a mess. And hopefully dan Quinn
Speaker 1: can get this thing fixed and just have some symbolance
Speaker 1: of everyone understand, Hey, Jovi Dv's coach. He knows what's
Speaker 1: going on here, you know, so so that in your
Speaker 1: D line coaches, you brought it really that he gets
Speaker 1: what's going on. So just at least that part and
Speaker 1: a huge part of that hopefull it's gonna hope, well,
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll get the word on it is. If we're
Speaker 1: gonna have like otia some sort of some some some
Speaker 1: type as sibilance of OTAs mini camps something like that,
Speaker 1: we'll go a long way, I think with this team,
Speaker 1: because I mean last year we saw it. We no OTAs,
Speaker 1: no mini camp abbreviated training camp. We saw how I
Speaker 1: heard us out there. People were running around with their
Speaker 1: heads cut off out there. So hopefully we're able to
Speaker 1: do something in the off season. This rookie mini camps
Speaker 1: a great start. Hopefully we'll be able to do all
Speaker 1: that stuff we got. It's gotta have it. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: we saw all these draft picks here don't don't, don't
Speaker 1: know what to do and the neat him in here.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break. Second, first break here,
Speaker 1: let's dive into the twenty twenty one schedule here on
Speaker 1: the players lines. We haven't done it yet, and I
Speaker 1: really want to focus on the front and the back.
Speaker 1: It's a seventeen game schedule, folks. Seventeen games, um never
Speaker 1: happened before in the National Football League. So it's going
Speaker 1: to be interesting to see. I mean, you talk about
Speaker 1: a marathon. It was already at marathon at sixteen. Now
Speaker 1: you add one more seventeen. It is a This is
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one schedule. And the league did Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: no faith, no love by saying, hey, not only do
Speaker 1: you get Week one against Tom Brady and Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get it up Thursday night on in BC
Speaker 1: as they raised the banner up the Pirates ship to
Speaker 1: celebrate their second World championship. We knew Tampa was on
Speaker 1: the schedule, and you knew you had to go to Tampa,
Speaker 1: but you weren't thinking week one, week one that I
Speaker 1: meant before we got that's an audit to me, that's
Speaker 1: an l off the rib I mean, that's that's an
Speaker 1: l off the ribbon. I say that because look at Tampa, baby,
Speaker 1: they brought back literally their whole, their whole twenty two
Speaker 1: starting roster. Calvin Watkins the Dallas Morning News says, it's
Speaker 1: a w he's crazy, he's out of his mind. They
Speaker 1: got back their whole twenty two rosso Even if they
Speaker 1: lets say they knocked out oh, we don't have OTAs,
Speaker 1: we don't have any of that, they still got that continuity.
Speaker 1: They know the strengths and weaknesses of each other, and
Speaker 1: they got the same team back. Okay, so here's here's
Speaker 1: the graphic. We'll dive more into that, but this is
Speaker 1: this is what you got. So two road games to
Speaker 1: start the season, all right, So you got Tom Brady
Speaker 1: and the Buccaneers. Then you get last year's Rookie of
Speaker 1: the Year offensive rookie Justin Herbert got So you got
Speaker 1: to go to LA. Your first home game is against
Speaker 1: the Eagles. That's Monday night, football. Then you get Carolina
Speaker 1: at Jerry World. So Carolina has got Sam Darnald now
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, and I personally think that if you
Speaker 1: give Sam Darnold some help which he has down there
Speaker 1: for a receiver position and get in the running back
Speaker 1: position to run CMC, I think Sam Doarnold's gonna gonna
Speaker 1: show folks that he can play he can play football.
Speaker 1: And then of course you get Week five at home
Speaker 1: against the New York Football Giants. So to me, I
Speaker 1: look at these first five games, is the cow advantage. Yes,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have got to take advantage. They've got to
Speaker 1: try and get things done here. So, by the way,
Speaker 1: within this, you charge your game, your eagle game. Two
Speaker 1: new head coaches. This is true. Okay, so both teams
Speaker 1: have head coaches, Toddy, these are games you've got to get.
Speaker 1: You got Carolina coming in here, it's a home game.
Speaker 1: You gotta handle your business. And then with the Giants
Speaker 1: being a division game, here the Cowboys. To me, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and this first fuck, you got to win three.
Speaker 1: You got to win three, and you got three at
Speaker 1: home that are very very very winnable. And then you
Speaker 1: got the one out in the West Coast which is,
Speaker 1: like you said, it's gonna be a tough one because
Speaker 1: you've got to go all the way out to the
Speaker 1: West Coast. I mean, they're playing at what at the time,
Speaker 1: they're playing over there. They're planning a three twenty five,
Speaker 1: so they ain't it too bad. But like you said,
Speaker 1: Herbert has been slinging the ball great this past year.
Speaker 1: He got weapons out there defensively, I think we should
Speaker 1: be able to take advantage of them. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: count that as a w But these three home games
Speaker 1: we gotta wipe off the plate. We gotta make sure
Speaker 1: we take advantage of these three home games. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about the Eagles, the Carolina Panthers, and the New York Giants.
Speaker 1: We have got to take advantage of them. Two of
Speaker 1: those games or division games. So we gotta get a
Speaker 1: leg up in the division with both of those, with
Speaker 1: both of those teams, and I feel like we can
Speaker 1: do so. Against the Eagles, I'm not worried about the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Were worries me a little bit though, is what they
Speaker 1: got going on in New York. The Giants, I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna sleep, They're gonna sneak up on a lot
Speaker 1: of cast this year, they added a lot of talent
Speaker 1: to that offensive side of the ball, and they're bringing
Speaker 1: back Nate Soldier who opted out last shot their left tackles,
Speaker 1: so they're solidifying that offensive. Look. I thought he was
Speaker 1: all right. Here's the thing about Solder. How many guys
Speaker 1: has Belichick let walk out the building? Where you say,
Speaker 1: boy boy, they miss him? What? Tom Brady? I love
Speaker 1: Willie McGinnis, Willie's my boy challenge Jones. Okay, two there
Speaker 1: we really begin us when to Cleveland, but we got
Speaker 1: to so so okay, two mistakes two and six Chandler
Speaker 1: Jones is definitely a mistake. Brady. That's it. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's it, you know, I mean the Super Bowl MVP
Speaker 1: Dion Brand Did they miss him? He ain't done. Wes
Speaker 1: Welker good player. So so so that's my thing when
Speaker 1: I think about when I when I think about that, um,
Speaker 1: I just don't think Solder was that much of a
Speaker 1: difference maker. Now, what they've got to do is get
Speaker 1: last year's first round pick, it was Andrew Thomas from
Speaker 1: from George. They got to get that guy to speed.
Speaker 1: He was the first tackle take and he's got to improve.
Speaker 1: But we saw the Giants last year as eight team
Speaker 1: start to buy more into what Joe Judge was doing. Ye, say,
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley, what's back? What's the help? And that's the
Speaker 1: what's the You know, these injuries play game. This is true.
Speaker 1: You know we always want to think guys or who
Speaker 1: they used to be when they come back. Can he
Speaker 1: can he pull off an Adrian Peterson? Can he come back?
Speaker 1: Because because Ape's a freak. We all know Ap, it's
Speaker 1: a freak of nature. If he had if he can
Speaker 1: come back in any type of similance like that, I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be legit. Man. So so there, So
Speaker 1: it's no bottom line is it's no easy double no,
Speaker 1: noon is. Yeah, there's never an easy w once you're
Speaker 1: in the division. So those are the first five games,
Speaker 1: all right, Chris gives the next ones. So then it
Speaker 1: is a week six contest. You're going to New England
Speaker 1: to face the Patriots. They don't win there, No, I mean,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what's happen. Ye, it don't matter. Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's I tell you what. That's a trip I'm
Speaker 1: hoping to go on. I love going up there, man,
Speaker 1: I like driving through the neighborhood and then you just
Speaker 1: stadium just pops up, boom. It's it's a pretty cool spot.
Speaker 1: It's definitely a pretty cool spot. Stay over in Rhode
Speaker 1: Island and I go to this place called Iggy's, uh
Speaker 1: Iggy's Dope Boys, and um, they got the best clam
Speaker 1: cakes and clam strips. It's right there on the water Soggs. Yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: the seafoods fresh. You can't beat the seafood from up there.
Speaker 1: I'm right the road on So it's one sent it
Speaker 1: so my spot when you go over there and go
Speaker 1: go go down and shot down at Iggy's, go to
Speaker 1: the game right if at the game, go the next day.
Speaker 1: But they've got to figure out a way to get
Speaker 1: a w whether it's Cam Newton starting or Matt Jones,
Speaker 1: but they have to figure out a way. They've got
Speaker 1: to start stealing some games on the road. And that's
Speaker 1: one they got to steal last the last time they
Speaker 1: were there, it was cold, it was in the rain,
Speaker 1: it was there for the taking. Should have won it.
Speaker 1: They should have won it. And when you lost it
Speaker 1: because the special teams, Yeah, nobody, nobody but Block Slater,
Speaker 1: Matthew Slater. Nobody right, So they lost. They lost. It
Speaker 1: was the dreaded fair catch game, right when when he
Speaker 1: had like fifteen that wasn't that was ta was against Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Minnesota forgot about the Blenders, the special teams blenders day. No, no,
Speaker 1: that was that was the next thing that drove Jerry Man.
Speaker 1: Next but after that Patriots, Jerry was so hot. He
Speaker 1: was hot because it was winnable game. Oh yeah, New
Speaker 1: England had no wide receivers. I mean, this was a
Speaker 1: winnable game. So maybe this is the one they can
Speaker 1: actually get in. Tom Brady doesn't play there anymore, so
Speaker 1: maybe this is the time that Mike McCarthy and company
Speaker 1: can get it. So Week seven is a buye. Then
Speaker 1: it's another road game. Now it's the Minnesota Vikings and
Speaker 1: it's on NBC Sunday Night Football, Thanksgiving Night. Um, you
Speaker 1: can say whatever you want about Kirk Cousins, but understand,
Speaker 1: the guy has weapons. And I know the Cowboys been
Speaker 1: the last year, but you know, you take you take
Speaker 1: Jordan Jefferson, you got Adam Feeling, you have Dalvin Cook. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is a challenge and if Mike Zimmer can fix
Speaker 1: his defense, which I think they got their capabilities to do.
Speaker 1: So they they're I think they're gonna they're gonna pose
Speaker 1: a pretty formidable, formidable game for es, especially being in
Speaker 1: Minneapolis primetime. That's gonna be a tough one for you.
Speaker 1: We do play well on primetime, though, I will say
Speaker 1: that we do play well on primetime. So then you
Speaker 1: get you get the Denver Broncos and luckily you don't
Speaker 1: have to go to Mile High Stadium. It's a tough
Speaker 1: place to play. But you get the Broncos here. Who
Speaker 1: knows who the quarterback will be, Drew Locker or Bridgewater.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'll say this, They're gonna be good defensively.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be good defensively. Soon will be back in there,
Speaker 1: will be back coming off the edge. So Vaughn on
Speaker 1: a contract yere okay, Vaughn on a contract year at all?
Speaker 1: Last year off basically so. And then you get the
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons coming back to Jerry World, so dan Quinn
Speaker 1: and company and maybe they'll win one for dan Quinny weapons.
Speaker 1: You talk about Julio Calvin Ridley, the stud from Florida pitt.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't believe Julio Jones will be there.
Speaker 1: You don't think you think they're gonna get rid of Julio.
Speaker 1: You got cat problems, man, he does count. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you've got to you have cat problems, You've got to
Speaker 1: sign these rookies. So they were already talking from church.
Speaker 1: They spent the whole drafts about trading for I mean
Speaker 1: that though, who gon gonna take that contract? And fel Man,
Speaker 1: who think anybody take Jared Goff's contract? Detroit too, So
Speaker 1: so you know, you get trade, you know, and here
Speaker 1: comes that thing now, golf. The contract got moved, but
Speaker 1: look at all that the Rams had to give Detroit
Speaker 1: in order to move it. So start quarterback game. So
Speaker 1: if you're if you're Atlanta first, no you don't because
Speaker 1: you gotta pay for the contract. I gotta pay the
Speaker 1: big money. So I'm gonna take that. You can, Yes, yes, someone, yes,
Speaker 1: someone will take it, because someone will look at Julio
Speaker 1: and say, this is the piece we need Snational Football
Speaker 1: League man, somebody. He's had had some injuries too. I
Speaker 1: don't know when the last time he played a full
Speaker 1: full sixteen. Well. I also heard of Bertie tell me
Speaker 1: that he's not a big practice player either. New head coach,
Speaker 1: you know, great player, don't like practice kind of doing
Speaker 1: his own thing. But said, that's what that's what I
Speaker 1: was told. So yes, he has what weapons, But I
Speaker 1: don't think that Jones is going to be there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they moved Jones on. I don't know. That's
Speaker 1: like I said, because of the cab. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is this is now money. This isn't talent. So let's
Speaker 1: just throw out the fact that this is a guy
Speaker 1: who who's had a fantastic NFL career and his name
Speaker 1: should be talked about when he retires of possibly being
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. Poor guy. You know, he made
Speaker 1: that greatch that toe touch toe toe tapping catching soup
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl that should resulted in the field
Speaker 1: goal which they could have won. You know, that kind
Speaker 1: of ring thing that he could have had for himself.
Speaker 1: He won't have that, But but you can't afford him.
Speaker 1: That's that's what this is all about. Now, that's why
Speaker 1: I say June first, it's gonna be interesting because there's
Speaker 1: gonna be some teams to look at some guy. We
Speaker 1: can't afford this. We have to make off and let's
Speaker 1: be on the super Bowl team. M hm. They brought
Speaker 1: him all back Is this the super Bowl team? No,
Speaker 1: that's so, why are we paying Huligo maw? We gotta characterized.
Speaker 1: Let's let's move him on. Let's let him move on.
Speaker 1: We're gonna put his note brought down the rafters one day.
Speaker 1: But it becomes about the cost. And I see Atlanta,
Speaker 1: I see why Atlanta will want to get off of them.
Speaker 1: I just don't see anybody wanting to grab that contract
Speaker 1: for a gotta have. He's a great talent, great talent
Speaker 1: and will automatically make your receiving group better. But is
Speaker 1: he gonna be there for secon? Can I throw this
Speaker 1: out here? Who thought Houston would trade Hopkins? They did that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That was so people lost his mind. People do goofy things.
Speaker 1: It is true, This is true. He lost his mind
Speaker 1: on now Yeah, so so people are gonna do some
Speaker 1: goofy stuff in this league. Um, so Jones will get moved.
Speaker 1: There was already conversations, but it was trying to figure
Speaker 1: out the draft compensation and when you get it, so
Speaker 1: these conversations will pick up one more time. Let's go
Speaker 1: to the Kansas City Chiefs. Now who Mahomie and friends?
Speaker 1: So that game is on the road. Arrowhead stadium, tough
Speaker 1: place to play. It's at Arrowheads. Yeah, L right there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a tough one there. So you've got that.
Speaker 1: Then there's the Thanksgiving Day game against the Raiders. So
Speaker 1: here it is back to back games in the uh
Speaker 1: AFC West, that's the division they're playing this year. So
Speaker 1: you got the Raiders at home. You gotta win that.
Speaker 1: You gotta win. You have to win that. What I'm
Speaker 1: nervous about. I'm nervous about Waller because our in our
Speaker 1: interior coverage last year between our linebackers and safety, it
Speaker 1: was it was suspect it will subspect that best. And
Speaker 1: I know we got some new talent in there. We
Speaker 1: got you know, we got Parsons and there we got Cox,
Speaker 1: those guys that have a little bit more fluid hips
Speaker 1: than Jalen and Lve. But Waller special man. And if
Speaker 1: he goes out there and starts to torch our middle
Speaker 1: of our defense, I can see that one being a
Speaker 1: long game. So I want I got it as a
Speaker 1: w But if I'm playing Spade, that's that's a possible.
Speaker 1: That's a possible. L right, right, Well, we all know
Speaker 1: they're all possible. Yeah, in this league, and then of
Speaker 1: course we know they got Jacob's the big running back
Speaker 1: for vegans, so so that's obviously Turkey Day Thursday game.
Speaker 1: Then they come back one week later with another Thursday game.
Speaker 1: This time though, you got to take the short trip
Speaker 1: down to New Orleans to face the Saints. Um breeze,
Speaker 1: we don't know who and what they will be December six.
Speaker 1: You know that, you know, we don't know who and
Speaker 1: what they this organization, what this team will be. Will
Speaker 1: Winston be that thirty interception guy or you know that
Speaker 1: year behind breeze and under you know Sean Payton's tutelage.
Speaker 1: Will he be able to turn it around? But we'll
Speaker 1: he'll well, we'll hell he'll he'll be come come December. Second.
Speaker 1: That's one I don't know what against and now here
Speaker 1: to me is the real wild card of this seventeen
Speaker 1: game season. Um, as you start to get into the
Speaker 1: last five year, Okay, so you start a Week fourteen
Speaker 1: with the Washington football team. That's a road game, so
Speaker 1: you've got that. Then it's another road game in the
Speaker 1: NFC East against the Giants. Okay. Then you turn around
Speaker 1: and you've got a game day after Christmas December twenty
Speaker 1: six on Sunday Night Football against the Washington football team.
Speaker 1: Then you host Kyler Murray in the Arizona Cardinals, and
Speaker 1: you go on the road to end the season at Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: So the last five games three road games. All three
Speaker 1: of the road games are in the NFC East, with
Speaker 1: four NFC East games in the last five. How you
Speaker 1: start and how you close is gonna, to me tell
Speaker 1: you a whole lot about the season. But these first
Speaker 1: five and the last Yeah, it's these last five that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough stretch. That's gonna be stef especially
Speaker 1: with that added game. I mean, the bye week is
Speaker 1: so early in the season. It's week seven, so you're
Speaker 1: talking about a whole eleven weeks of straight football for
Speaker 1: these guys, no type of break. So that's that's that
Speaker 1: stretch you're talking about. That last five is gonna be
Speaker 1: extremely important for the division. And I mean it's just
Speaker 1: gonna be important for these gas period because Washington Football team,
Speaker 1: to me, I think they improved the most in our division,
Speaker 1: so I think they're gonna be an extremely hard team
Speaker 1: to beat, and we got them twice within these last
Speaker 1: five games. So obviously, ESPN, whoever makes these schedules, they
Speaker 1: they know, they they know who's gonna come down into
Speaker 1: the nfcas I think it's gonna come down to Washington
Speaker 1: and Dallas as well. But that that last five stch
Speaker 1: of games, it's gonna be tough man. Three away games,
Speaker 1: two home games. Two of those two of those games
Speaker 1: are it gets your division rival. So it is gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough stress for these boys. First five you
Speaker 1: gotta set the tone. Last five, you gotta go ahead
Speaker 1: and finish strong and hopefully we're healthy at that time.
Speaker 1: I mean, as we've seen it, you need a death,
Speaker 1: you need your death, and you need your rookies to
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Speaker 1: Hopefully he is back with us next week. Speaking up
Speaker 1: back with us, how about the topic you raised, Jeff
Speaker 1: Heath cut by the Raiders, now out on the open market,
Speaker 1: and you are saying, maybe bring him back. Yes, this
Speaker 1: is because you're not talking about Jeff Heavey. Is the
Speaker 1: camera on me real quick? Cbe he put the camera
Speaker 1: the goats. We talk about the goats Heath right now,
Speaker 1: and it's hum about just you know, your average safety.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the goat heat. He could run forever,
Speaker 1: all right. This guy is still young. I think he's
Speaker 1: twenty nine years old. And look to me, you bring
Speaker 1: him in here. He's one of the smartest safeties matter,
Speaker 1: one of the smartest players I've ever been around. He
Speaker 1: will pick up the playbook like that. So it ain't
Speaker 1: like it's a it's gonna be a you know, development.
Speaker 1: We gotta get this guy in. You gotta learn a playbook,
Speaker 1: all that stuff. He'll pick it up like that. And
Speaker 1: this guy is way more athletic than a lot of
Speaker 1: people give him credit for. He was always that offseason
Speaker 1: award winner when it came to, you know, Mike Woisick
Speaker 1: doing these offseason awards for the most in shape or
Speaker 1: or you know, the best time and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: He was always in the top three when it came
Speaker 1: to speed, strength, athleticism, all that. This dude is an
Speaker 1: unbelievable athlete, smart guy, and he plays the game the
Speaker 1: right way. So for me, I'm saying, bring the goat
Speaker 1: Heath back. No disrespect to Kazy, but I think Jeff Heath,
Speaker 1: a healthy Jeff Heath is better than a Kazy coming
Speaker 1: off for the torn achilles one year have for the
Speaker 1: torn achilles. So for me, I think it's a no
Speaker 1: brain you're bringing the Goat back. He's not like he's
Speaker 1: gonna break your bank out there. He'll probably hit you
Speaker 1: for the same thing CAZy, maybe a little bit more,
Speaker 1: but he's not gonna break the bank out there. You
Speaker 1: bring this guy in. If you don't think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a starter, you know for sure he's gonna produce
Speaker 1: on your special teams. He's not too big of a
Speaker 1: guy to be like Nah, I'm I don't need special
Speaker 1: teams no more. He can do it all for you.
Speaker 1: I don't know why there's not more conversation going on
Speaker 1: about this. We gotta bring this guy in. I think
Speaker 1: it's only a positive and I think it'll be an
Speaker 1: upgrade for this defense overall, because like I said, I
Speaker 1: think him being healthy is better than a torn achilles CAZy.
Speaker 1: So for me, there's no question. Bring the goat heath
Speaker 1: back to the d back to the secondary. We need
Speaker 1: him back there. Okay, So I come back into and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I've been I've set it, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep on saying it. Casey knows the defense, Casey has trust.
Speaker 1: They know him, So it's something to just as you
Speaker 1: talk about it. Keep that in mind and you you play.
Speaker 1: You know how coaches are now? Coaches like their guys. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they like their guys and guys who who you know?
Speaker 1: They when you're super Bowl with this guy. So okay,
Speaker 1: now let's let's look at just in terms of safeties,
Speaker 1: you got Donovan Wilson, got Kazy, you got Izzy like Izzy,
Speaker 1: you got jay Ron Curse, you got Darren Thompson. Now
Speaker 1: you're gonna bring in Heath. Yeah, a couple of them guys.
Speaker 1: Gotta go. Dren Thompson, you got to go. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean we just listen to six safeties. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: are times he gonna had to go. Um, who is
Speaker 1: he can stay? I like what I saw so far
Speaker 1: from Curse, you got to go. I mean he could come.
Speaker 1: He could come in here and do the same thing
Speaker 1: Curse could do, but on the better level. Special. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: so you got to go. Uh, Darian Thompson, you got
Speaker 1: to go. Kazy if you bring in if you bring
Speaker 1: in Heath and get him up to speed. I know,
Speaker 1: I know these coaches, they love their guys, and this
Speaker 1: probably won't happen because you know, Dan Quinn loves his guys,
Speaker 1: and you know Kazy and Ky. I don't know, so
Speaker 1: it probably won't happen. But to me, if I'm sitting there,
Speaker 1: if i'm Will McClay, I'm looking back and I'm bringing
Speaker 1: the Heath guy, I'm saying, Casey, you can go, I mean,
Speaker 1: it didn't like his contract was that, you know, boisterous
Speaker 1: to where all, we cannot let this guy go. He's
Speaker 1: making too much money. So I just just had to
Speaker 1: throw it out. And I don't know if him being
Speaker 1: if Casey's knowing the defense, I understand it will help
Speaker 1: the secondary, get the secondary lined up, but you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna put you know, if
Speaker 1: it's if it's that big to where he can you know,
Speaker 1: help line up the linebackers and the defensive, He's not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to help all those guys out. It's
Speaker 1: just a secondary back, all right, And bring up another
Speaker 1: You just spoke about Tyler Coyle number thirty nine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hit Rockie Camp today. I'll add another layer into this.
Speaker 1: Just conversation about what you're saying. Heath is a veteran.
Speaker 1: It's going to cost you. What do we know they're
Speaker 1: trying to do. They keep talking about, you know, they
Speaker 1: want some discounts. He will set you for what Casey
Speaker 1: to me, I think what a Casey hit for it.
Speaker 1: I think he got like one point one or something
Speaker 1: like that. One. So anyway, I just I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm just merely throwing it out here as we
Speaker 1: have the conversation. If you want to bring it heat.
Speaker 1: This is a crowded This is a crowded room. Some
Speaker 1: cats got to go. We talk about they keep talking
Speaker 1: about competition, but in you Oh, by the way, if
Speaker 1: you're Jeff Heathen, you come here, you want some guarantees,
Speaker 1: Yeah you can get you want some guarantees. So anyway,
Speaker 1: this is this is It's an interesting conversation, interesting conversation.
Speaker 1: I think overall, I think he would match up better
Speaker 1: than CAZy. But what the one thing that Casey has
Speaker 1: over him, like you said, is he knows the price.
Speaker 1: And so I feel like dan Quinn would go to
Speaker 1: bat for Kyzy more than he would go to bat
Speaker 1: for Heath. Can I also put this out here about Casey.
Speaker 1: Happen when healthy? This guy gets turnovers. He's a he
Speaker 1: was a tenorrible machine. I'll give you that. He had
Speaker 1: tenor picks. He was flying all over the place. This
Speaker 1: is that Achilles. I understand. I understand that this is
Speaker 1: what we've heard the head coach consistently preach about all
Speaker 1: season long. We need turnovers, We need turnovers. If you
Speaker 1: Dwinn's got a guy who can do this. And the
Speaker 1: reason you got him was because he's hurt. If he's
Speaker 1: not hurt, probably still with a Falcons, or he's somewhere
Speaker 1: with a better deal than what he got here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and so did hess Did he impress you that
Speaker 1: much when we played against him? I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: when we played against Atlanta, Okay, I see this, both
Speaker 1: defenses were bad. Yeah, look at the score of the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the defense was good. He was a part of that.
Speaker 1: Terrible secondary at either team was good. I mean, but
Speaker 1: you look, you brought in Dan Quinn to run your defense,
Speaker 1: the dude coach of a team that was bad defensively.
Speaker 1: So that's what got me nervous about the whole years.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and um, you know, is there a hypocrisy there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of hypoxic is it trying to act like, well,
Speaker 1: did he did? You see the Atlanta game? Dan Quick coach?
Speaker 1: You know what happened. He was a part of that.
Speaker 1: What happened was, you know, he was good in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: You know that's he was good at Seattle. He was
Speaker 1: good at All he has to do is focus on defense.
Speaker 1: He's done, man, He'll bring it, you know, min minus that,
Speaker 1: minus that second half against the Patriots, they almost wont
Speaker 1: to Super Bowl. I hope that fifteen minutes away from
Speaker 1: getting that ring, he was that guy. What happened was
Speaker 1: so yes. I mean, it's it's the constant thing of
Speaker 1: what we're doing or trying to think about what about this? One?
Speaker 1: About that? But that is what it is. It is
Speaker 1: what it is, what it is. But it's going to
Speaker 1: be interesting. So you brought up Jeff Heath here, all right,
Speaker 1: another topic you you would approach here. Kelvin Joseph, the
Speaker 1: second round pick out of Kentucky, checked him out a
Speaker 1: little bit at camp today. He's got hands, got hands,
Speaker 1: He's got some hands here. But the potential of him
Speaker 1: starting to me, I don't see just from watching today,
Speaker 1: Just from watching today, I don't see him as being
Speaker 1: a day one starter. Yes, he has good hands, he had.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have as good as feet as um. I
Speaker 1: keep butchering his name Israel, but I was called him
Speaker 1: Israel from now where is he? I don't want to
Speaker 1: say his last name on Bushelm. He doesn't have his
Speaker 1: great his feet, but his hands and everything like that
Speaker 1: are very solid. The reason I don't see him being
Speaker 1: a Day one starters because he has the same body
Speaker 1: type or same build as the Nickels we already have here.
Speaker 1: I don't see him. I know he did it on
Speaker 1: in college he was outside, but in the league it's
Speaker 1: a lot different. I don't see him having that body
Speaker 1: type to be able to transition to the outside corner
Speaker 1: as well as a as a Trayvon Diggs did, or
Speaker 1: as well as a Pat short team might do in Denver.
Speaker 1: I think he's more suitable for that interior that that
Speaker 1: that nickel, that nickel position, which we already have Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: we already have Anthony Pack. What's that? What's going on?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, you're in Cheeto out there. This is true.
Speaker 1: We saw the results of that. That's why I don't
Speaker 1: want my GUYO Chee. The guy was it was in
Speaker 1: the number previous and just didn't have success, like the
Speaker 1: dreaded number twenty seven. Like I don't know, I will
Speaker 1: never dawn in a Jersey where the guy but previously
Speaker 1: he just didn't have it, like I'm not known that.
Speaker 1: So maybe he doesn't start, and I'll keep holding this up.
Speaker 1: It's seventeen games, Yeah, it'll be a great depth. So
Speaker 1: at some point in time he's going to play. Uh
Speaker 1: that's your hope that he can stay healthy and play.
Speaker 1: All right. Um, so that's the cowboy things we wanted
Speaker 1: to get to, Like when when we talk about dan Quinnon,
Speaker 1: what he wants for this defense or does he not
Speaker 1: want that same type of body type that Sherman, that
Speaker 1: browner that was long lanky, that seemed like we've got
Speaker 1: all nickel bodies outside of Treyvon did all right, So
Speaker 1: this is another thing you got to kind of come
Speaker 1: back to the two guys. You were one of the
Speaker 1: two guys you were hoping to get. Both guys got
Speaker 1: got so horns or Tanner gone. The Georgia corner they
Speaker 1: were looking at right out the gate, Jacksonville takes him
Speaker 1: and round two. So you were getting the list was
Speaker 1: getting short. This is true. So the list was getting short,
Speaker 1: and so the Raiders jumped in front of the Cowboys
Speaker 1: and they took Trayvon Marring of TCU, and people like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's who the cowbirys gonna take the Cowboys. No, we were,
Speaker 1: we were taking the corner. So so when you by
Speaker 1: the time you get to Joseph, you know it's it's
Speaker 1: like it's you know, it's one fifty in a club.
Speaker 1: That's all that club. You know who looking good? Now? Hey,
Speaker 1: hey girl, now be meeting it. Talk to you all
Speaker 1: night long. You waited to the last minute. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: let's get a little let school to some pizza right
Speaker 1: after the game at your club. Here, I mean, but
Speaker 1: that's where you are. So so here you are. This
Speaker 1: was you know, when you're going down your list of guys,
Speaker 1: they liked he was a guy that he you know
Speaker 1: he was when the last week, Hey, it's one fifty
Speaker 1: the club, the corner got to close. You better if
Speaker 1: you gotta get money, you better get out spend your
Speaker 1: game to everybody. Okay, So so because this has five
Speaker 1: eleven here, but that's generous that that might be generous.
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying this is this is what it
Speaker 1: now is They talked about, you know, he'll compete and
Speaker 1: do all these things. So we'll see. But you know, no,
Speaker 1: it wasn't perfect at this point in time, but they
Speaker 1: they keep talking about they like his intangibles, they like
Speaker 1: who he is. So we'll see translates, we'll see kids.
Speaker 1: But can you play a five eleven five ten corner?
Speaker 1: You can um be a dog. It's not perfect out there,
Speaker 1: so you know, well we'll see yeah, And this is
Speaker 1: the this is gonna be the BDIA camp when they
Speaker 1: talk about competition on we have these OTAs and these
Speaker 1: because because we need to see it. So that's it.
Speaker 1: So that that is you know, this is once you know,
Speaker 1: it's never perfect, it's never it's never gonna be perfect.
Speaker 1: But that that was the thinking and where they went to.
Speaker 1: And you know, speaking of perfect, um, the situation in
Speaker 1: Green Bay is far from perfect. And I want to
Speaker 1: make sure we hit on that with Aaron Rodgers because
Speaker 1: you and I haven't talked to you on the Player's
Speaker 1: Lounge about this at all. And I don't understand how
Speaker 1: Mark Murphy who runs the pack, they don't have an
Speaker 1: ownership Mary's Room or something like that. Mark Murphy runs it.
Speaker 1: So Mark Murphy runs it. Mark Murphy has the GM,
Speaker 1: Brian Gooda quents here, it's got the head coach, Matt
Speaker 1: Lafloores here. But Brian is running this thing. I mean right,
Speaker 1: but Mark Murphy's running this thing. Everybody's mad at Brian. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if if Brian is the guy who
Speaker 1: just who decided, Hey man, we're gonna trade up and
Speaker 1: we're gonna go get Jordan Love. You know, but Mark
Speaker 1: but Murphy had to know about it. Mark Mark Murphy
Speaker 1: is a former NFL player with a Super Bowl in Washington.
Speaker 1: So this is not some guy who doesn't understand football.
Speaker 1: He knows football. But they have screwed this up at
Speaker 1: big time. I don't think Jordan can I don't know.
Speaker 1: To me, I'm getting the field that Jordan Love can't
Speaker 1: play or something. Because these guys are They've seen them practice,
Speaker 1: you've seen them in camp, them on and stuff, and
Speaker 1: it's like they're they're they're petrified of what Aaron Rodgers got.
Speaker 1: Is it because Jordan Love just can't play? Or I mean,
Speaker 1: I understand what Aaron Rodgers brings. M vps's Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: hell of a player. But you would think, all right, man,
Speaker 1: look we drafted, we went, we traded up to get
Speaker 1: this guy. If this, if Rodgers is complaining this much,
Speaker 1: we should just go ahead and get this. But he
Speaker 1: must not be able to play. Well okay, this is
Speaker 1: just how I see it. Okay, we don't know because
Speaker 1: the guy didn't get to play. There were no preseason games, yea,
Speaker 1: you know, so you go right to the season. You're
Speaker 1: not giving him any reps. They were competitive and winning
Speaker 1: all year long, so there was no real need to
Speaker 1: play him. And Aaron Rodgers rolling on it had an MVP.
Speaker 1: He he wasn't trying to make sure he had. Guy
Speaker 1: got a rep. He's standing over there. That's what that
Speaker 1: goes back to our play earlier when we're talking about
Speaker 1: what type of player is Kiano gonna be? Is he
Speaker 1: gonna be? What I th I got this playboy? Just
Speaker 1: check out over there. I know we up thirty. Watch this, Jordan,
Speaker 1: I'm up thirty without my handed off right, you're looking
Speaker 1: at it. So yes, um, but they have screwed this
Speaker 1: thing up. And just the fact that you hear and
Speaker 1: Aaron doesn't want to play there he wants to get
Speaker 1: traded in the Packers saying though they don't want to
Speaker 1: trade him, and then the story by well Rogers wants
Speaker 1: the GM fired. And look, as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 1: you fire the g. I he got to having worked
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, I believe in the Magic Johnson thing.
Speaker 1: So Magic Johnson, uh first year rookie. They go win
Speaker 1: the NBA Championship with Paul westball I mean, Paul west
Speaker 1: Head is a head coach. But then west Head got
Speaker 1: a little bit too big. He's trying to start telling
Speaker 1: anybody would do a magic that man trade me. I
Speaker 1: don't play for him anymore. And Jerry busts only, yeah, fired,
Speaker 1: you're fired. So he fired him. He made Jerry west
Speaker 1: the head coach. Jerry west Man, I don't want me
Speaker 1: to head coach, give it to pat Riley. And they
Speaker 1: moved on, moved on, and it was people got all
Speaker 1: on magic. They vilified man rung players. But guess what
Speaker 1: Magic was right? Right, Magic was right. You do not
Speaker 1: mess with the guy like Aaron Rodgers. And the other
Speaker 1: thing for me is what is this is a business?
Speaker 1: How much money is Aaron Rodgers made the Packers made
Speaker 1: him relevant after Brett Farm He's made them relevant. And
Speaker 1: it is just they're always in gotta go player over
Speaker 1: over over or office right here. You got he is
Speaker 1: one of the stars of the league. Then to be
Speaker 1: he's what you don't sit around here and do this
Speaker 1: to one of the stars. And for me, I people
Speaker 1: keep talking about last year's number one pick. Love I said,
Speaker 1: do you want to talk about the number two pick
Speaker 1: as well? Because the first two picks that Brian Ludikins
Speaker 1: made made me shake my yes. And they went and
Speaker 1: resigned and Aaron Jone Dyland ain't gonna see the field.
Speaker 1: I was like, you just tracted two dudes who don't
Speaker 1: help you at all. And that's what Rodgers was saying
Speaker 1: this whole time. You are, y'all gonna get me some
Speaker 1: help in here, and and Gludakins just continuously slaps him
Speaker 1: in the face with these picks. Even if you took
Speaker 1: t Higgins who went in the second round to Cincinnati
Speaker 1: and had a good year there, I mean, you could
Speaker 1: have helped Aaron Rodgers, but out a doubt. And so
Speaker 1: here it is. You get to the NFC Championship game,
Speaker 1: you're at home and you lose. And he talked about
Speaker 1: how bitter the pill was. I could sit up here say, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: can I had a little bit more help? Could I
Speaker 1: had another weapon here? Um very legitimate arguments that and
Speaker 1: so for him to feel him and you guys have stubby,
Speaker 1: I feel true. I want out of here. I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it. And Green Base screwed this thing up.
Speaker 1: And look look what it's leaking down to. Its leaking
Speaker 1: it down now you got DeVante Adams talking about a
Speaker 1: you know, if if Aaron Rodgers, you know, feels like
Speaker 1: he needs to go, you know, separate ways. You know
Speaker 1: that that that's to me thinking in the future, Well
Speaker 1: when you on, they're gonna make that move your receiver.
Speaker 1: It okay, I'm with you, Aaron. I got your back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what you that's what he should say. I get it, right,
Speaker 1: I get that. But I mean the end of the day, um,
Speaker 1: they you're a free agent. They stole that slap that
Speaker 1: franchise take. He's not sitting out. Aaron can sit around
Speaker 1: here and sit out. And you know, okay, we got
Speaker 1: a problem. Yes, DeVante, you're a great football player. But
Speaker 1: but no, you know you're not moving you you're not
Speaker 1: match You can't do this magic Johnson thing like that
Speaker 1: demanding stuff. No you can't do it. No, you can't
Speaker 1: be knt Grippy Junior. When he told the Mariners trade
Speaker 1: me to Cincinnati, he was testing his power, but he
Speaker 1: just wanted to You're a seed. I mean, haven't we
Speaker 1: learned from Odell Beckham Junior and all that he wanted
Speaker 1: went to Cleveland practically vanished off the BA, except when
Speaker 1: he played the Cowboys. So he played the Cowboys. He
Speaker 1: was about to get traded before he played the Cowboy
Speaker 1: trade and they had had a great game. But oh,
Speaker 1: he's back. Other topic, your old team. What's you're talking
Speaker 1: about now, which I know you ain't talking about? My boy?
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer decided to bring in Tim Tebow to play
Speaker 1: tight end thirty three years old. Come on, I don't
Speaker 1: understand it. I don't get it. We're talking about a
Speaker 1: six year hiatus, not even talking about nine nine us
Speaker 1: we're not even talking. Let's not even talk about it.
Speaker 1: Or right now to the position switch. This guy nine
Speaker 1: years from his last significant down played in the NFL.
Speaker 1: We've seen what happened when five years takes off of you,
Speaker 1: and that was Aldon Smith and he came back to
Speaker 1: play the same position, the same position, started off great,
Speaker 1: and then he fell off a cliff because he hasn't
Speaker 1: played in five years. And it takes a different type
Speaker 1: of mentality, different type of shape to get into for football.
Speaker 1: For you to just jump off your couch and play,
Speaker 1: it's just not gonna work. So when they say that
Speaker 1: about Tim Tabo, I'm just like, what, why, what do
Speaker 1: you think is gonna what do you think this any
Speaker 1: like he can teach Trevor Lawrence something about the quarterback game.
Speaker 1: He was never good at quarterback, so they like he
Speaker 1: can teach him something. Who's he gonna teach at time?
Speaker 1: He didn't, He's never played the position. Who's he gonna block?
Speaker 1: How did you talk about leadership? Leaders I'll tell you
Speaker 1: right now from experience, the players in that locker room
Speaker 1: are not gonna sit there and say Tim Tebow's our leader.
Speaker 1: If he's the fifty third person on the depth chart
Speaker 1: and he's not getting no playtime and he's not out there,
Speaker 1: you know, he's not contributing to the team. No one's
Speaker 1: gonna listen to him. Here're gonna come in there barreling
Speaker 1: in there doing his little pregame speeches. We gotta do this.
Speaker 1: People are gonna look at him like he's crazy, Like Tim,
Speaker 1: gets this guy out of my face. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: no one is gonna listen to the fifty third man
Speaker 1: on the roster, and that's what Tebow is gonna be
Speaker 1: if he makes the team. So I just don't understand
Speaker 1: what is he bringing to the Jaguars right now? What
Speaker 1: new he helped me out here? What does he bringing
Speaker 1: I've heard people try to talk about that whole leadership thing,
Speaker 1: and I laugh about it because in the National Football
Speaker 1: League League leadership it comes from people who are playing.
Speaker 1: They don't come from some dude who's never played the spot.
Speaker 1: All I can think of is the first time Tim
Speaker 1: Tebow gets up that line and Nino Brown had a
Speaker 1: new Jack City. He looked at you, what to consist
Speaker 1: your five people? Go make Jake Timpty? What's Timpty gonna say?
Speaker 1: You know, this isn't Florida, this isn't college football. Many
Speaker 1: look at that man like he's crazy. And I want
Speaker 1: to understand from Urban Meyer, can we put twelve fourteen
Speaker 1: million a year? How do you still not understand? You're
Speaker 1: gonna hire the strength coach, coach that's got this pass
Speaker 1: that he got issues with with with with black folk.
Speaker 1: Then you're gonna go hire Tim Tebow when you've already
Speaker 1: got guys in the building grinding, trying to sit around
Speaker 1: here and make a team. You know, you got dudes
Speaker 1: or I mean just like you see his rookie can
Speaker 1: you know and the guys who one or two year guys,
Speaker 1: guys who are trying to make it, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: roll his cat in here, roll him in there, and
Speaker 1: he's gonna make the squads. He even understand which shoulder
Speaker 1: the block with. He's gonna make us. Gonna see him
Speaker 1: too though. No, Yeah, we played Jacksonville the preseason, so
Speaker 1: jack Ce Tebow playing. So Chris Beam telling us we're
Speaker 1: gonna see, We're gonna see week four, Week four the preseason.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get out. Who's he gonna block? Who Michael
Speaker 1: Parson like a Parson's out there block he's gonna block
Speaker 1: Dlong Del won't be playing. He won't be playing. He
Speaker 1: won't be playing. He won't be playing. Maybe maybe Jabill
Speaker 1: can't play that last same right, maybe Jabrill Jabrill. Maybe
Speaker 1: he's gonna put hands on Jabrick. If that's another thing.
Speaker 1: If you go, if you're a defensive player and you
Speaker 1: line up against Tebow and he blocks you, come on,
Speaker 1: you ain't never gonna hear the end of that. You
Speaker 1: let first quarterback block you. First time that guy makes
Speaker 1: a catch? You know a guy who go trying to
Speaker 1: let him up so they get gett highlights highlights who
Speaker 1: is Tebow route book? Who is gonna get out open
Speaker 1: against man? The man run probably at his boat for eight.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is not the problem is people want to
Speaker 1: try and correlate him to taste him. He's not taste
Speaker 1: him Hill, No, okay, he's not. No. And and you've
Speaker 1: taken nine years off nine years old, it gonna be
Speaker 1: thirty three years old. And and and this is what
Speaker 1: Urban Myers. I'm trying to figure I Urbert, what are
Speaker 1: you doing in Jacksonville that ego? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm urban? You could bring Tim Tebow in I can
Speaker 1: change his whole culture. Let me hire this racist weightlifter
Speaker 1: from Iowa. Let me get him in here. What are
Speaker 1: you doing that happen? This is this is professional football, man.
Speaker 1: This isn't Ohio Status, not Florid, It's not UTAs, it's
Speaker 1: not Bowling Green Man. You can't this. Guys aren't going
Speaker 1: to buy into this. And and looks I just feel
Speaker 1: like guys are gonna go out of their way to
Speaker 1: light up Tim Tebow without a doubt. You hadn't earned this.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna light him go out way to light
Speaker 1: him up. Let him catch the ball. Coaches, boy, and
Speaker 1: you've already I've read reports where you've talked about guys
Speaker 1: say other coaches are like, what are we doing the coaches' Jackson,
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Because it's because I could. I
Speaker 1: could see if he brought something to the quarterback room
Speaker 1: where he could teach this guys something. But like we said,
Speaker 1: he hasn't played well at the quarterback position to be
Speaker 1: able to teach Lawrence something. Leadership. Nobody's listening to a
Speaker 1: fifty third person. And I've been fortunate enough to cover
Speaker 1: some teams where I saw head coaches bring in former players,
Speaker 1: but the players they brought in could help. When Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson was here, he brought in Alfredo Roberts, who was
Speaker 1: with him at Miami. Alfredo could play. This is true.
Speaker 1: You know, you've got to make sure the dudes you
Speaker 1: bring in can play. When when I was in Cleveland
Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick was there, he brought in Carl Banks,
Speaker 1: he brought in Pepper Johnson. They could play. Play again,
Speaker 1: the guys he was with with the Giants, they could play.
Speaker 1: Had the biggest thing. These dudes had to be able
Speaker 1: to do it. They got to That's the only way
Speaker 1: people are gonna respect you, because people think just because
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen it time and time again where
Speaker 1: cats will come in here and they think you know,
Speaker 1: their first round draft pick. But if you can't play,
Speaker 1: no one is gonna listen to you. No, go back
Speaker 1: to parcels when he came here. He brings in Richie Anderson,
Speaker 1: he brings in Vinnie Testaverdie, he brings in Keyshon. They
Speaker 1: could all play. If you can't play. Brought in Terry Glenn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't bring in your You can't bring in your
Speaker 1: guys if they can't play. Now you're gonna bring in
Speaker 1: one of your guys. He's never played tight end never,
Speaker 1: he's thirty three. Man, Come on, what do we do it?
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see it, though I can't improv.
Speaker 1: Not hey playing. You got some friends and and it's
Speaker 1: not like Jacksonville they needed the sealities tickets. You got
Speaker 1: Urban Myer there. Tibow is not selling. He's not doing it,
Speaker 1: So like, what what's the That's why you drafted Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: It's why you went and got Urban Myyer. You're good,
Speaker 1: you're good. Give him a coaching to give him one
Speaker 1: of them you know, coaching gigs where he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's in the room somewhere as a coach or something
Speaker 1: like that. But and his his own ego to want
Speaker 1: to do this, that's what's that's what's why his own ego.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Man? He saw what happened when
Speaker 1: he guy when he was done with football. Let me
Speaker 1: go to back and switch sports. Let me go to
Speaker 1: baseball and be the truth that just didn't happen. All right.
Speaker 1: That's our players lounge this week at a lot of
Speaker 1: good stuff. We covered rookie minicamp today. Um, you thought
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons was a little gas you loved hy um
Speaker 1: mukamamu fluid six foot four safety out of usc they
Speaker 1: took in the sixth rounds. So you like those two
Speaker 1: guys that you saw there, and you also liked uh
Speaker 1: Coyle Tyler Correll the other safety out there from produce early.
Speaker 1: That's my early pick for undrafted to make the team. Okay,
Speaker 1: if we don't bring the goat back all right, that
Speaker 1: is Barry Church. That's forty two Cowboys safety our boy
Speaker 1: um and a running mate. Danny mccraig should be back
Speaker 1: next week. I'm new he scrubs a long time Cowboys
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