WEBVTT -  The Girlfriends S2/E5:  Her Legacy

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<v Speaker 1>Novel. Hey listener, here we are at our final episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to let you know that we are

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<v Speaker 1>releasing our soundtrack as an EP. You can listen on

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<v Speaker 1>all reputable streaming platforms. You can also purchase the EP

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<v Speaker 1>by going to bandcamp dot com and searching for the

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<v Speaker 1>Girlfriend's Our Lost Sister soundtrack. All proceeds go to our

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<v Speaker 1>charity partner, DNA DO Project. In this final episode, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be talking a lot about drug addiction. We'll also speak

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<v Speaker 1>about parental neglect, sex work, as well as acts of

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<v Speaker 1>extreme violence, including murder. But in amongst all this darkness,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll also hear a woman's story brought to life by

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<v Speaker 1>the people who loved her. If you feel impact did

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<v Speaker 1>by any of the themes while listening, I encourage you

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<v Speaker 1>to check out our charity partner, DNA DOE Project. They

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<v Speaker 1>work with law enforcement to identify Jane and John Does

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<v Speaker 1>using genetic genealogy in the hopes of reuniting the bodies

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<v Speaker 1>of unidentified people with their families. You can find them

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<v Speaker 1>at DNADO project dot org. And one more thing, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably hear more bad language from me. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the final episode, so why stop now? You know? So

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<v Speaker 1>far on the girlfriends our lost sister. The whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>is so horrific, it's almost like it's become this moral

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<v Speaker 1>obligation to find her.

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<v Speaker 2>In ninety eight, did missing persons really want to deal with?

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen eighty nine Torso?

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<v Speaker 3>That watch though I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, it's doctor Shapiro and I'd like to speak with

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<v Speaker 4>the deputy medical Examiner.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you mind if I send a text?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I might get something. What do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Could you say perpetrator for me?

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<v Speaker 3>Who is she?

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<v Speaker 6>Let's bring closure to another family. Let's open this door?

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<v Speaker 2>Hello? Hi?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this Anne?

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<v Speaker 7>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>When Anna reached out to Heidi Balch's family, they were

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<v Speaker 1>pretty shocked to hear from her, and trust me, I

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<v Speaker 1>can certainly relate to that, But despite their surprise, they

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<v Speaker 1>agreed to talk. So Anna explains the long complicated story

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<v Speaker 1>how a Torso washed up on Staten Island and was

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<v Speaker 1>buried in Gilkatz's grave for nearly a decade, and how

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<v Speaker 1>DNA testing avally proved that it wasn't Gael, and how

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<v Speaker 1>that Torso was then buried on Hart Island until twenty

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<v Speaker 1>and thirteen, when it was exhumed once again by the

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<v Speaker 1>Office of the chief medical Examiners. We ask Kiti's family

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<v Speaker 1>for records anything relating to the police or medical examiners

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<v Speaker 1>that they would be willing to share with us to

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<v Speaker 1>help us solve this mystery once and for all. They

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<v Speaker 1>forward us an email which they were sent by the

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<v Speaker 1>police back in twenty thirteen and included in there two

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<v Speaker 1>paragraphs down is a medical examiner case number R eight

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<v Speaker 1>nine zero five six three, which is a number some

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<v Speaker 1>discerning listeners may recognize because it's the same number that

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<v Speaker 1>we've had in our files for a year and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the number that all the way back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty nine was assigned to our Jane Do's Torso, the

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<v Speaker 1>one that was misidentified as Gail Cats. I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying this, Girlfriends, but we finally have the proof.

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<v Speaker 1>We found our lost sister, and her name is Heidi Balch.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Carol Fisher and from the teams at Novel and

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<v Speaker 1>iHeart Podcast, this is the girlfriends our Lost Sister, Episode five.

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<v Speaker 7>Her Legacy. Yes, okay, I've got a confession to make.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I always say I'm a Vegas girl because

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<v Speaker 1>that's my hometown and I love a little glitz and glamour.

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<v Speaker 1>But about seven years ago, I fell in love with

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<v Speaker 1>the man from New Orleans and I found myself in

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<v Speaker 1>a long distance relationship. Listener, don't fear this. One's a

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<v Speaker 1>really nice guy. But the deal was I would spend

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<v Speaker 1>more time out of Las Vegas if I could have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of animals. So we purchased a home right

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<v Speaker 1>outside the city, and I'm happy to report that we

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<v Speaker 1>have a shitload of chickens, two geese, a lot of ducks,

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<v Speaker 1>five mini goats, one pet pig, two horses, and one pony.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, and we have two cats.

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<v Speaker 7>Anna, Anna, come on.

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<v Speaker 1>For the past week, I've been introducing my producer Anna

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<v Speaker 1>to my menagerie. This is one of our cats.

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<v Speaker 3>Ferguson.

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<v Speaker 1>She's here because she looked like she could do with

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<v Speaker 1>a good meal, but also because, and you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>fucking believe this, Heidi's aunt. She lives just fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 1>down the road from me. I mean, you can't make

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<v Speaker 1>this ship up.

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<v Speaker 8>That's when it comes to people being connected through the show.

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<v Speaker 8>This feels like the craziest example. You know, down the road,

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<v Speaker 8>go down.

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<v Speaker 1>The road, going only four minutes away. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy. Throughout the series, we said that we want

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<v Speaker 1>to learn who our lost sister is, but all we

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<v Speaker 1>could find were gruesome details about her death, and today

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<v Speaker 1>we're hoping to find out about how she lived from

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<v Speaker 1>the people who knew her and loved her. What is

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<v Speaker 1>it this? Oh, it's says, isn't it cute? Drible cuts?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a dinosaur? I think that's a bird. Could

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<v Speaker 1>we get out of the car and walk through an

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<v Speaker 1>old wooden gate towards a clapboard building with a porch

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<v Speaker 1>and a rocking chair. The front yard is full of

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<v Speaker 1>luscious greenery that's dripping from the heavy Louisiana rainfall. Him, Carol, Carol, Hello.

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<v Speaker 5>Me too, Rita, Rita.

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<v Speaker 1>We're greeted at the door by Rita, or Rusty to friends.

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<v Speaker 1>She's Heidi's aunt by marriage. Rusty's one of those beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>older women who just radiates a gentle, calm, warmth and

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<v Speaker 1>understated wisdom.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a church.

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<v Speaker 6>What is it you can now tell?

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<v Speaker 1>I said it, as if we didn't have enough coincidences

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day, this converted church. It was called

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Anna, I mean, and come on, Rusty has lived

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<v Speaker 1>here for decades. And as the first person to ever

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<v Speaker 1>call it home. She says, you can feel the energy

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<v Speaker 1>of people in the building, and I can believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>She guides us through the house with its navy floorboards

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<v Speaker 1>and persian rugs lit up through the stained glass windows.

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<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely stunning. As we're taking it all in, we're

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<v Speaker 1>joined by Anne.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, I'm here, so nice to meet you.

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<v Speaker 1>She's Heidi's cousin and Rusty's niece. Her dog says hello too.

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<v Speaker 5>This looks like friendly, but just telling her how to jump.

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<v Speaker 1>This looks like my dog.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yes, just like my dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Anne and Rusty seem to be cut from the same

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<v Speaker 1>Bohemian cloth AND's about eleven years older than Heidi. She's

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<v Speaker 1>in her early seventies. Now she's a wood turner and

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<v Speaker 1>artist and talks about driving around in a van for

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<v Speaker 1>half the year seeking adventures while she still can.

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<v Speaker 3>So now we get to where its one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're coming to.

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<v Speaker 5>The worm area.

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<v Speaker 1>We were there On a dining room table surrounded by fruit, salad,

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<v Speaker 1>hot coffee, and granola bars are photos of Heidi and

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<v Speaker 1>her family throughout the years. There's one of Heidi as

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<v Speaker 1>a toddler being cuddled in the backseat of a car.

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<v Speaker 3>She was two there and I was twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Lyle. She's an sister and another cousin of Heidie's.

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<v Speaker 1>Her wavy white hair is effortlessly tied back, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a pair of loose fitting traditional Nepalese trousers.

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<v Speaker 10>We had a big record of the Singing Nuns and

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<v Speaker 10>we would dance to this song, and there was one

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<v Speaker 10>in particular we loved, and little two year old Heidi

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<v Speaker 10>would go over to the record player very delicately, lift

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<v Speaker 10>up the needle, put it back on the groove where

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<v Speaker 10>the song like. She never scratched the record, she never

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<v Speaker 10>missed putting it in the right place. I was just

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<v Speaker 10>amazed at her dexterity. We must have danced to that

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<v Speaker 10>song like a hundred times. I think it was a

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<v Speaker 10>song called Dominika Nika. Anyway, you can tell how much

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<v Speaker 10>we loved each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this dancing little girl with a family of gorgeous hippies.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't the story I was expecting. Here with Heidi's relatives,

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<v Speaker 1>I get a sense of a life she could have led,

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<v Speaker 1>full of art and color and music. I wish we

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<v Speaker 1>could tell that story, but that's not how things worked

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<v Speaker 1>out for Heidi. So what happened. To understand that, we

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<v Speaker 1>first need to learn about Heidi's parents, Tom and Gretchen,

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<v Speaker 1>who met in California in the early nineteen sixties.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a ten year age gap.

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<v Speaker 9>She was twenty two and Tom was thirty two or whatever,

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<v Speaker 9>and he was not living a life that was about

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<v Speaker 9>having children or finding a wife.

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<v Speaker 10>My understanding was that he was just kind of a playboy,

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<v Speaker 10>and so I think he just liked to have sex,

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<v Speaker 10>and he liked to go out with different women, and

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<v Speaker 10>he wasn't looking for a relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>And she got pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>When Tom's mother, who the family all called Nana, found

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<v Speaker 1>out about the pregnancy, she told Tom that he had

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<v Speaker 1>to do the right thing and marry Gretchen. She felt

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<v Speaker 1>like it was the only way to give the baby

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<v Speaker 1>a proper start in life. In the photos from their

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<v Speaker 1>wedding day, Gretchen is six months pregnant in a sixties

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<v Speaker 1>coat and a beehive hairdoo. Tom's in a pale suit

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<v Speaker 1>holding a glass of champagne. He looks like a deer

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<v Speaker 1>in the headlights. Heidi's born a few months later in

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<v Speaker 1>California on January seventh, nineteen sixty four. But within in

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<v Speaker 1>a few months, Tom and Gretchen's marriage is over and

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<v Speaker 1>Heidi gets stuck between two miserable parents.

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<v Speaker 2>What struck me about Gretchen was how bitter She was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of toxic, and Tom became bitter as well. But

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<v Speaker 2>Tom was bitter about a lot of things. So both

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<v Speaker 2>parents full of that bitterness, really created an environment that

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't even close to the atmosphere baby needed. There was

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<v Speaker 2>no nurturing, there was no making the baby fly up

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<v Speaker 2>in the air and catch her, or having fun or

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point, a local woman is hired by the

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<v Speaker 1>family to look after baby Heidi, but before long, according

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<v Speaker 1>to Heidie's cousins, this woman takes Heidie's Nana to one side.

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<v Speaker 1>She tells her that from what she's seen at Gretchen's apartment,

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<v Speaker 1>she thinks Gretchen will be the death of Heidi and

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<v Speaker 1>that the family should get rid of her to protect

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<v Speaker 1>the baby.

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<v Speaker 9>She said, you know, I have people in my neighborhood

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<v Speaker 9>who know how to take care of these kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, So let me get this straight. This

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<v Speaker 1>devout Christian nanny is suggesting that they put a hit

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<v Speaker 1>out on Heidie's mom.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, Nana was shocked, and of course Nana said no,

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<v Speaker 9>and you know, it wasn't even a consideration.

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<v Speaker 1>Nana didn't give up, though. The family tells us that

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<v Speaker 1>she tried to take custody of Heidi but was unsuccessful.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the end, she did whatever she could to

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<v Speaker 1>make Heidi's life as normal as possible. Whenever she came

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<v Speaker 1>to visit, big family meals with freshly pressed tablecloths, cute

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<v Speaker 1>girly dresses, riding up and down the curb on a

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<v Speaker 1>shiny new bike, some money or toys at birthdays and Christmases.

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<v Speaker 1>But back home with Heidie's mom, things weren't as right.

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<v Speaker 1>The family told us they suspected that Gretchen was working

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<v Speaker 1>as a sex worker from her apartment. They heard from

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<v Speaker 1>people that she had different men over while Heidi was there,

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<v Speaker 1>that she only had beer in the fridge. One time,

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<v Speaker 1>the cousins say Heidi came to Nana's house with a

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<v Speaker 1>cigarette burn on her. It's important to point out here

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<v Speaker 1>that we can't fact check these claims because we believe

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<v Speaker 1>Gretchen has passed away, and records show that Tom, Heidi's father,

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<v Speaker 1>died in twenty twenty three. We do know that Gretchen

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<v Speaker 1>told the detective who looked into Heidie's case that she

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<v Speaker 1>was going through a rough patch back then. It all

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<v Speaker 1>came to a head when Heidi was five. Gretchen turned

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<v Speaker 1>up at Tom's front door one day and said she

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't deal with raising Heidi anymore. She then walked away

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<v Speaker 1>and left the little girl to live with her equally

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<v Speaker 1>uninterested father.

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<v Speaker 9>Tom did come home at night, and Heidie had learned

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<v Speaker 9>by six or seven to take a frozen dinner out

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<v Speaker 9>of the freezer and turn on the oven and make

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<v Speaker 9>it for herself.

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<v Speaker 1>Heidie's cousins Lyall and Robert show us some more pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of Heidi.

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<v Speaker 10>She's not so old in this picture, and you can

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<v Speaker 10>see that face is someone's gone through.

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<v Speaker 11>Some Yeah, she was just obviously really lonely.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you look at these photos and there is

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<v Speaker 5>like a clear change.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, she is just a normal.

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<v Speaker 3>Happy, cute kid when she's like two three.

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<v Speaker 12>In these ones, and then there is something about her

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<v Speaker 12>eyes that just goes Yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 5>What I say.

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<v Speaker 10>I feel like if we put all these pictures in

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<v Speaker 10>chronological order, you almost see the light go out in

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<v Speaker 10>her eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>At school, Heidie's teachers noticed there was something wrong too.

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<v Speaker 1>In one of her report cards from first grade, it

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<v Speaker 1>says she almost never smiles. I believe she needs a

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<v Speaker 1>great deal of affection right now. But there are also

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<v Speaker 1>signs of Heidi's creativity and potential. One of her teachers

0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.440
<v Speaker 1>says she was an excellent reader who loved the Chronicles

0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.800
<v Speaker 1>of Narnia. They also say she was a talented writer,

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<v Speaker 1>producing many fine stories and poems with the wit and

0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:29.080
<v Speaker 1>humor that was unique to her. There are moments in

0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:33.680
<v Speaker 1>these reports that show flashes of Heidi's personality, a headstrong

0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.680
<v Speaker 1>young girl who simply wastes too much time doing what

0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:41.720
<v Speaker 1>she pleases instead of paying attention. One report from nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two, when she was eight, says that if Heidi

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<v Speaker 1>continues receiving the love, help, and understanding she has seen

0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.960
<v Speaker 1>from school and home, then I believe she will make

0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.960
<v Speaker 1>even greater social progress. But the love she received at

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<v Speaker 1>home didn't come from her dad. That was all Nana,

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<v Speaker 1>who continued to play a key maternal role in Heidi's life,

0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:06.120
<v Speaker 1>especially at Christmas when Heidi would go and visit. There

0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.160
<v Speaker 1>are real sweet photos of her sitting on Santa's knee.

0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:13.760
<v Speaker 1>That feel like glimpses of childhood joy. One time, Heidie's aunt,

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<v Speaker 1>Rusty remembers when they were all at Nana and Grampy's house.

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<v Speaker 2>Grampy was kind of a grumpy He was the one

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<v Speaker 2>who decorated the tree every year, that was his tradition,

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<v Speaker 2>and the tree that he brought in that year had

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<v Speaker 2>a bird in it, a live bird.

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<v Speaker 1>Grampy rescues the bird from the tree and brings it outside.

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<v Speaker 1>But while he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Gone, Nana said, let's have some fun on it, so

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<v Speaker 2>they started decorating the tree. Graffy was gone, and Heidi

0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:51.000
<v Speaker 2>was delighted. It was just wonderful to see her spirit

0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:52.359
<v Speaker 2>dancing around.

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<v Speaker 1>But then the worst thing that could happen happened. Grampy

0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:04.520
<v Speaker 1>retired and decided he wanted to move to Florida, eleven

0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.440
<v Speaker 1>hundred miles away from Ohio.

0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:10.480
<v Speaker 10>Nana just was wringing her hands about moving so far

0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.240
<v Speaker 10>away from Heidi, but.

0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Grampy's word was law in their relationship and she had

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<v Speaker 1>no choice but to go.

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<v Speaker 10>So there was no longer visits to Nana's house, where

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<v Speaker 10>there really was stability and home cooked meals.

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<v Speaker 1>By nineteen seventy two, Heidi loses regular contact with the

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<v Speaker 1>most important and loving figure in her life. A few

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<v Speaker 1>years later, in nineteen seventy six, the family are gathered

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<v Speaker 1>together for a golden wedding party. Looking at a photo

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<v Speaker 1>from the day, you can see twelve year old Heidi,

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<v Speaker 1>who looks like a young Jodie Foster, but to her

0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:52.760
<v Speaker 1>cousins she seems almost unrecognizable. She's already had several run

0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.840
<v Speaker 1>ins with the law and is experiencing things that her

0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.720
<v Speaker 1>older cousins can't even imagine.

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<v Speaker 10>She was worried that she was pregnant and that she

0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.359
<v Speaker 10>might have hepatitis from shooting up with a dirty needle.

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<v Speaker 3>I went into shock.

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<v Speaker 10>I felt like I had gone from being the cousin

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<v Speaker 10>who's ten years older who can lead the dancing, to

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<v Speaker 10>feeling like I was a country bumpkin who had no experience.

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<v Speaker 1>It was clear to everyone that Heidi was on a

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<v Speaker 1>downward spiral, and her father Tom seemed to be doing

0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:31.320
<v Speaker 1>nothing to stop it. Around that time, her aunt Rusty

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<v Speaker 1>stepped in. She moved Heidi in with her and her family.

0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:35.520
<v Speaker 11>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, well, I could help her. No, and I

0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:40.919
<v Speaker 2>tried to give her some ground rules while we're at

0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:44.320
<v Speaker 2>the house, and she resisted everything. It was this bubble

0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:48.560
<v Speaker 2>that she was in. It seemed that it couldn't be penetrated.

0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.199
<v Speaker 1>So she really protected herself, like with a shield of

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<v Speaker 1>armor around her.

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<v Speaker 2>She did.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually, Heidi was forced to attend a reform school in Ohio,

0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.760
<v Speaker 1>and for a while she was doing doing well. Heidi

0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.480
<v Speaker 1>seemed to thrive with a bit of discipline and structure.

0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:08.560
<v Speaker 1>She was a naturally bright young girl and started advancing

0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:09.920
<v Speaker 1>in her education again.

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<v Speaker 11>And then the story goes that Tom came to visit her.

0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:16.080
<v Speaker 11>This is Robert, and he took her away. He took

0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:21.240
<v Speaker 11>her back. Tom had this thing about bucking the system,

0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:25.280
<v Speaker 11>you know, fuck the man. He hated any kind of authority,

0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:30.040
<v Speaker 11>and so I think he valued that in Heidi too

0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:31.600
<v Speaker 11>and encouraged it.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in Toledo with her dad, Heidi wanted out. At

0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:40.480
<v Speaker 1>just fourteen years old. She told her dad Tom she

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<v Speaker 1>was moving to California to follow her dreams of being

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<v Speaker 1>an actress and a model. She said she could get

0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:50.119
<v Speaker 1>a ride with some long distance truck driver she had met.

0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Heidie's family couldn't believe Tom was okay with it.

0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:58.000
<v Speaker 11>You can't allow your daughter to just go and get

0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:02.119
<v Speaker 11>in a car with anyone. These are grown men. You

0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:02.760
<v Speaker 11>can't do it.

0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:03.560
<v Speaker 2>You can't do it.

0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:06.399
<v Speaker 11>And he's just like, got this dumbass smile and a

0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:09.040
<v Speaker 11>drink in his hand and a pipe. He was, in

0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:11.960
<v Speaker 11>a weird way, proud of her independence.

0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:14.760
<v Speaker 1>But there was no talking to Tom or to Heidi.

0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.680
<v Speaker 1>And so in nineteen seventy eight, with their dad's consent,

0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:24.040
<v Speaker 1>fourteen year old Heidi gets in the truck with this

0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:49.240
<v Speaker 1>random guy and sets off to make it big in California.

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<v Speaker 1>California was the furthest fourteen year old Heidi Bulch had

0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:57.120
<v Speaker 1>ever been from her family. Like so many other teen girls,

0:21:57.400 --> 0:22:00.680
<v Speaker 1>she had aspirations of being a star and an actress

0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:03.680
<v Speaker 1>or maybe a model. She didn't have all the details

0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:07.560
<v Speaker 1>figured out yet. Heidi's family don't know much about her

0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:10.480
<v Speaker 1>life at this point, but what they do know is

0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that she never made it big in Hollywood. We're pretty

0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:19.320
<v Speaker 1>sure that she didn't book any acting gigs, and she

0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:22.320
<v Speaker 1>decided that at five foot one, she was too short

0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:26.280
<v Speaker 1>to make it as a catalog model. So, at age sixteen,

0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Heidi packs up her life and once again, with her

0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:34.879
<v Speaker 1>father's blessing, she decides to move, this time to New

0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 1>York City. When Heidi arrives in the Big Apple, her

0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:45.960
<v Speaker 1>dreams have changed, well kind of, because of her height.

0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:48.359
<v Speaker 1>She thinks she might have better luck as a hand

0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:52.439
<v Speaker 1>and face model, so she starts putting a portfolio together.

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<v Speaker 1>Picturing a sixteen year old Heidi alone in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes me think of my own daughter when she

0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:03.800
<v Speaker 1>was sixteen. She was still in school, she was learning

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 1>to drive a car and starting to think about colleges.

0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:12.160
<v Speaker 1>As a mother, it's hard for me to understand how

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 1>anyone could let their child go off alone into a

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:20.560
<v Speaker 1>city as dangerous as New York in the eighties, Heidi

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 1>no doubt considered herself pretty street wise, and in a

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.919
<v Speaker 1>lot of ways she was, but she was also just

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:31.960
<v Speaker 1>a kid in need of some love and guidance. According

0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:34.760
<v Speaker 1>to her family, Heidie's dad paid the rent on a

0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:38.920
<v Speaker 1>studio apartment for her, but he never visited. Heidi was

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:46.639
<v Speaker 1>left to fend for herself. Her life became increasingly turbulent.

0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 1>She was falling deeper into the throes of drug addiction,

0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and she got arrested multiple times. According to her cousin, Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>who was living in New York at the time. Within

0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 1>a few years of being in the city, Heidie found

0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:05.440
<v Speaker 1>herself an infamous Island jail Rikers her robbery and assault.

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 11>Heidi was a tough character by that point, so she

0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 11>prided herself in knowing how to navigate being in Rikers

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:19.760
<v Speaker 11>and she would ask for different things like socks and cigarettes,

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:24.160
<v Speaker 11>whatever underpants, and she could barter use them to her advantage.

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 11>But she took real pride in being able to handle herself.

0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:30.639
<v Speaker 1>After Heidi came out of Rikers when she was around

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.399
<v Speaker 1>twenty one, her family arranged for her to go to

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:37.199
<v Speaker 1>Florida for a few months to stay with Nana. While there,

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 1>she spoke about getting clean and even got her high

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:43.879
<v Speaker 1>school ged. But this brief respite from her life in

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 1>New York didn't last. Once she returned to the city,

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:51.240
<v Speaker 1>she fell back into her old ways. She'd stop buy

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 1>and visit her family, who were living in the city,

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:55.840
<v Speaker 1>every once in a while for dinner or to get

0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:58.920
<v Speaker 1>a few extra bucks, but they weren't seeing very much

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 1>of her. A lot of her life was a mystery

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 1>to them.

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 11>We knew she was addicted to drugs and using her

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 11>sexuality in some way.

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 9>She was really on the downward spiral, and it may

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 9>have even been around a discussion about being a sex worker.

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 9>She just came out with this statement. She said, well,

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:21.440
<v Speaker 9>you know, I'm a lesbian.

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:26.680
<v Speaker 1>But after coming out as a lesbian, Heidi suddenly marries

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 1>a man.

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:32.679
<v Speaker 9>She met this guy who was attempting to get a

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 9>green card and struck a deal.

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Allegedly, he gave Heidi fifteen hundred dollars to marry him.

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 1>It seems very much like a business transaction. As far

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 1>as we know, there was no real relationship. Heidi's addiction

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>continued to spiral. At various points in the mid to

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>late eighties, her family tried to step in.

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:03.160
<v Speaker 9>I was living in New York and my parents, Heidie's

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 9>aunt and uncle were making one more effort to try

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 9>to get her into drug rehabilitation. And the last night

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 9>before she said she would go, and my folks were

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 9>going to take her. They had gotten a hotel room

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.200
<v Speaker 9>about a half a block away from where they lived.

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:30.359
<v Speaker 9>I remember being in the hotel room and Heidi was

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 9>going into the bathroom like every twenty minutes, and you know,

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 9>it was sort of obvious that she was taking drugs.

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 9>She was using needles and heroin by that point, and

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 9>I remember seeing her legs in her arms in that

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 9>way that really advanced drug addicts have pustules of sores.

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:04.200
<v Speaker 9>And it was already that she had had an AIDS diagnosis,

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:16.439
<v Speaker 9>and she wanted a smoothie and I said, well, I

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:18.679
<v Speaker 9>can go over to Orange Julius, you know, one of

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 9>those corner store places in New York, and get you one.

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 9>And she said, you know, I'm organic.

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:34.919
<v Speaker 12>That's great, and it was just so funny, like it

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:42.920
<v Speaker 12>was like, oh my god, she's organic, and she wasn't

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 12>there the next morning.

0:27:51.040 --> 0:28:02.159
<v Speaker 1>A Heidie's life in New York was, to put it,

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>mildly unpredictable. But in amongst all the chaos, there was

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 1>one person in her life that she would never bail on,

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 1>her beloved Nana. Every January on her birthday, Heidi would

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>call Nana and they catch up a little.

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 9>And Nana would say, oh, I want to send you

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 9>a check, and you know, it's so nice to hear

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 9>from you, and you know, it was kind of a

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 9>way to know that she was alive and well.

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 10>And it was nineteen ninety when she doesn't call Nana,

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:34.680
<v Speaker 10>and now it's been a year almost and so everybody

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 10>was knowing something's going on.

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Increasingly worrying for Heidi's welfare, Nana reaches out to Heidie's

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>green card husband to see if he's heard from her,

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>and he.

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 9>Said, oh, yeah, she's fine. You know, she's over on

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 9>the Alphabet Land Avenue A, and I haven't really seen

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 9>her seen her, but I know other people have seen

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 9>her and just led Nana on. That went on for

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 9>a number of years, and so Nana was not suspecting anymore.

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 9>She believed it and said, oh, well, she's just like

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 9>in more trouble and you know she's she's on drugs.

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 9>Because the fake husband was reassuring Nana for his own

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 9>self interest, that she was alive. Nana died in nineteen

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 9>ninety six, so she never knew whether Heidi was really

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 9>missing or.

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 12>Not, and probably it was better that way for Nana.

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh, without a doubt.

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>When Nana died, these calls stopped and Heidi's family were

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 1>left wondering what happened to her. Robert tried to console

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 1>himself with fantasies of Heidi having turned her life around.

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 11>My narrative, the thing that I hope was that she

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 11>joined a cult and she was like in Arizona and

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 11>changed her name to Sunbeam. And you know, she was

0:29:58.560 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 11>gotten clean and healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>But as time went on, nobody had spoken directly with

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<v Speaker 1>Heidi for several years, the family began to wonder whether

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<v Speaker 1>something serious had happened. Throughout the nineties, the family tried

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<v Speaker 1>to make Heidie's father, Tom, file a missing person's report,

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<v Speaker 1>but he.

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<v Speaker 10>Refused because of his dislike of any authority, Like that's

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<v Speaker 10>why he kept telling our mom, no, don't report it yet.

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<v Speaker 10>Somehow he maybe was scared or just disliked the police

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<v Speaker 10>so much or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't understand how any parent could go years without

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<v Speaker 1>knowing if their child is alive or dead and do nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>The rest of the family felt torn. They were desperately

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<v Speaker 1>worried for Heidie's welfare, but they wanted to respect Tom's

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 1>wishes as her father, so they stood by until eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and one, Heidie's aunt Robin, took matters

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<v Speaker 1>into her own hands.

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<v Speaker 9>My mother just couldn't stand it anymore, and so she

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<v Speaker 9>just decided I have to report her missing.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the years, the family checked in with the police,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was no sign of Heidi anywhere. There also

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't any media attention, not like there was in Gail's case.

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Heidie's face didn't appear in the news or on a

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<v Speaker 1>milk carton under missing. I have to wonder if it's

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<v Speaker 1>because Heidi was a sex worker and a drug addict.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasn't a perfect victim, and maybe she reflected backup

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>people the kind of life they wanted to hide away from.

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<v Speaker 1>Given how much Heidi means to me, to Anna, to Mindy,

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<v Speaker 1>to Elaine, to all of us girlfriends, it's heartbreaking to

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<v Speaker 1>think that for so long her story was just ignored.

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<v Speaker 1>Until twenty thirteen, when Heidi's ain't Row gets a very

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<v Speaker 1>important visit for.

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<v Speaker 3>Hope Well detectives knocked on her door and said, could

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<v Speaker 3>this be your niece?

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<v Speaker 9>My mother took one month with the pictures and she said,

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<v Speaker 9>that's Heidi.

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<v Speaker 1>This was when the family learned that Heidi was dead

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<v Speaker 1>and that the serial killer Joel Rifkin was responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>her murder.

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<v Speaker 11>And then my sister Anne, she got right on the

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<v Speaker 11>commuter start investigating and she tells me, you know, Heidie

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<v Speaker 11>was decapitated.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all so much darker, so much more heartbreaking

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<v Speaker 1>than they ever could have imagined.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, it was one of those moments though, where

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<v Speaker 11>were you when you found out? When the towers came

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<v Speaker 11>down or whatever?

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<v Speaker 10>It was definitely shocking. It was, I mean, kind of

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<v Speaker 10>knocked my breath out.

0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Trying to come to terms with what's happened. The family

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 1>seek out as much information as they can. They come

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<v Speaker 1>across old news articles about Heidi's death before she was identified,

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<v Speaker 1>articles they may have read a few years previously, without

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<v Speaker 1>knowing the connection they had.

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<v Speaker 10>I think I saw the headline that said head has

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<v Speaker 10>aids and I just felt like I couldn't talk about it,

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 10>or I just didn't, you know, I didn't know how

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 10>to process it. I didn't know what to do with it.

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>The callous, in dismissive way Heidie was spoken about by

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<v Speaker 1>the press after her death is a fucked up mirror

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<v Speaker 1>image of the way Joel Rifkin saw her and his

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<v Speaker 1>other victims. He spoke about it in the book From

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<v Speaker 1>the Mouth of a Monster.

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<v Speaker 10>I didn't read the whole book, but I have it

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<v Speaker 10>in my mind that he said, well, I picked these

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 10>kind of girls because no one's looking for them. They

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<v Speaker 10>don't have families that care.

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<v Speaker 7>And that just.

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<v Speaker 10>Felt like a dagger in my heart to be well,

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<v Speaker 10>how long did it take for us to report it.

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<v Speaker 10>We wouldn't have known, like within a week or two,

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<v Speaker 10>because no one was in that close touch with her.

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 10>But by that summer we could have said, we should

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<v Speaker 10>get some help in case we can't find her. You know,

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<v Speaker 10>if we had reported it, maybe it would have led

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<v Speaker 10>to him being caught.

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<v Speaker 3>There'd be sixteen other women still alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Lyle Robert and Anne have been trying to figure out

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 1>how their cousin, the girl they shared Christmases with, who

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 1>played the danting nuns on repeat until the record nearly

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>wore out, who had dreams of being a star, how

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<v Speaker 1>it is that she could have gone down so a

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<v Speaker 1>different road to them.

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<v Speaker 10>It makes me realize that intact, consistent, reliable love that

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<v Speaker 10>our parents gave us, How valuable that is, how important

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 10>that is. Like I could be right where Heidi was

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<v Speaker 10>if I had had Uncle Tom.

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 11>And I mean she did have love from Nana, yeah

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<v Speaker 11>and whatever Tom, in a weird way, there were little

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<v Speaker 11>pockets of it, you know, So she wasn't completely deprived.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm not. It's we're just still trying to sort it

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<v Speaker 11>out and figure it out, Like, how does a life

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<v Speaker 11>go so wrong? You know, how does that happen?

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<v Speaker 1>After the twenty and thirteen police investigation, all of Heidi's remains,

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>including her torso, were finally reunited and cremated as one.

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:08.359
<v Speaker 1>The family had some kind of closure, But what they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know until we came along was that Heidi's torso

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<v Speaker 1>had been buried for nearly ten years in the grave

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:19.759
<v Speaker 1>of Gail Cats. So we thought it fitting to introduce

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<v Speaker 1>them to the woman who visited her all those years,

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<v Speaker 1>Gail's sister Elaine.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Hi, we have something terrible in common.

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<v Speaker 6>I am so sorry, thank you, I am so sorry

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<v Speaker 6>to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you.

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<v Speaker 13>You know.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that it's only since we got connected with

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:50.479
<v Speaker 9>Anna and learned the story of the misidentified torso and

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:56.360
<v Speaker 9>realized that there was a lot of peace that we

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<v Speaker 9>have felt knowing that somebody loved her and buried her,

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<v Speaker 9>and that she was cared about for a period of time,

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 9>when for twenty five years it was a total mystery.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, Heide's torso gave my family an enormous amount

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 6>of peace and closure.

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:22.399
<v Speaker 2>Burying her.

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<v Speaker 6>We finally felt that, you know, we had some part

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<v Speaker 6>of my sister back. So thank you for lending her

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<v Speaker 6>to me and my family.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big heart that you have.

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<v Speaker 9>We know and appreciate that there was loving energy going

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 9>her way.

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<v Speaker 2>In Heidi's story, that means a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>As we end the call with the Lane, the Louisiana

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<v Speaker 1>sky is getting dark. Still strew across the table in

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<v Speaker 1>front of us are the documents and photographs. It gives

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<v Speaker 1>us snapshots in the Heidi's too short life, and it

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:10.799
<v Speaker 1>might be the rainstorm or maybe the spirits in the

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 1>house that Rusty talked about. But the lights start to

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:17.319
<v Speaker 1>flicker on and off, and the conversation turns to what

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<v Speaker 1>Heidi would make of all of this.

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<v Speaker 9>At one point, when she was in her teen years,

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<v Speaker 9>she said to me, you know, what I really want

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 9>is to be on the cover of a magazine and

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<v Speaker 9>have my mother see me on the cover of a

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<v Speaker 9>magazine when I'm famous. Like the motivation was to be

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:45.400
<v Speaker 9>discovered by her mother. Yeah, and she's not a famous

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:49.240
<v Speaker 9>hand model or an actress who's doing brilliant work.

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 3>But maybe this is the legacy we've been waiting for.

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<v Speaker 9>Maybe this is being on the cover of the magazine

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<v Speaker 9>in some weird way, and I think she will be

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<v Speaker 9>represented now with a story. It's more than the blood

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:10.280
<v Speaker 9>and gore on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that you all are telling it. I also

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:21.879
<v Speaker 2>have the sense that the girlfriends are growing in numbers. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and count me in.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to think that, Gail and Heidi, you're just

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<v Speaker 1>friends somewhere in the ethers.

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<v Speaker 14>I was thinking that too, in the ethers, but maybe

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<v Speaker 14>it was like a destiny right thing and a divine intervention.

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<v Speaker 1>Today, Heidi's ashes are scattered underneath a palm tree somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida. It's nice to imagine her there, soaking up

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:21.760
<v Speaker 1>the sun. Finally at peace. I'm back on the shores

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<v Speaker 1>of Staten Island, where Heidi first entered our story. Mindy

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<v Speaker 1>and Anna are with me. The three of us are

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<v Speaker 1>gathered here one final time, in this beautiful, slightly melancholy

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>spot to say goodbye. We started this journey with one

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<v Speaker 1>mission to find our lost sister, and now that we've

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<v Speaker 1>not only found her but named her two, we're here

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:54.360
<v Speaker 1>to give her a proper sendoff. So we're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>it in the only way we know how. Very Jewish,

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:01.320
<v Speaker 1>a little slap dash with a lot of heart.

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<v Speaker 4>In the Jewish tradition, if you visit a grave site,

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<v Speaker 4>you leave a stone, and I think we should leave

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<v Speaker 4>a stone here.

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<v Speaker 10>I love that.

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<v Speaker 14>Let's leave the snow.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you going to place it?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go down there, walking right out to

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<v Speaker 1>the water's edge. Mindy gently lays down the stone.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that something you say when you do this?

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<v Speaker 1>Normally you say yes? Score? Jitsker is a special memorial

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 1>prayer for the departed, where you say the name of

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:40.280
<v Speaker 1>the dead you wish to honor. It means may God remember,

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<v Speaker 1>But sadly and a little ironically, we don't remember the words.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Siri, can you say y?

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<v Speaker 10>Score?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? How to get your credit report?

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<v Speaker 12>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>We warned you slap dash, But eventually Mindy finds what

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:04.800
<v Speaker 1>she's looking for. So, dear listener, we'd like you to

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<v Speaker 1>join us in taking a moment to remember.

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<v Speaker 8>Heidi, balch okay, are you ready.

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<v Speaker 13>Showcat on me? Moments an don't gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Should be.

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<v Speaker 5>Taken sho.

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<v Speaker 4>Heidi, okay, shall oh that's any one?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it's enough.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's gotta be a shorter one. I'd like to

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:58.759
<v Speaker 1>imagine that Hidie and Gil are looking down on us

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>from the ethers, both of them laughing at me. Mindy

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and Anna as we awkwardly make our way off the beach,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving behind two unassuming stones just on the water's edge,

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:35.359
<v Speaker 1>one for Heidi and one for Gail. This story is

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<v Speaker 1>for all of us. It's for Gail and for her

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:43.280
<v Speaker 1>sister Elaine. It's for Anne and Rusty and Lyle and Robert.

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<v Speaker 1>But most of all, this story is for Heidi Balch,

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<v Speaker 1>who is no longer our lost sister. Because we found you, Heidi,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will never forget you. The girlfriends Our Lost

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<v Speaker 1>Sister is produced by Novel for iHeart Podcasts. For more

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<v Speaker 1>from novel, visit novel dot Audio. The show is hosted

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<v Speaker 1>by me Carol Fisher, and our chief investigator is Mindy Shapiro.

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<v Speaker 1>To find me on social media, search Carol A. Fisher

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<v Speaker 1>is Madeline Parr. The editor is Joe Wheeler. Max O'Brien

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<v Speaker 1>is our executive producer. Our fact checker is Dania Suleiman.

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<v Speaker 1>the whole team at WME, and a special shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to Vince Hayward, my life partner in True Crime for

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