WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Flock to the Ball

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time for The Break on.

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys dot Com right with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 5>It is Wednesday, September eighteenth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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<v Speaker 5>episode number thirty two. Welcome to the latest edition of

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome to the show. We've got a lot we're going

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<v Speaker 5>to get into today. Cowboys versus Ravens is our first day.

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<v Speaker 5>Moving on to week three of the season, we will

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<v Speaker 5>get a breakdown from Brian on the Baltimore offense, which

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<v Speaker 5>is scary versus the Dallas defense. We will get to

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<v Speaker 5>some different topics. I had some questions I have around

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<v Speaker 5>the Dallas defense and some things that they've been experiencing

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<v Speaker 5>in ways that they're gonna have to approach getting better.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I was gonna let you finish, but I made

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<v Speaker 6>that face because I did want to ask you guys

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<v Speaker 6>a question after you get done.

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<v Speaker 4>I have one even after you all right, you know something,

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<v Speaker 4>we're taking over the show.

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<v Speaker 5>Whatever I was gonna say, it doesn't matter, Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the question?

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<v Speaker 6>Does this defense have a problem with big offenses? And

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<v Speaker 6>I mean big as far as personnel. If you play

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<v Speaker 6>with are you built to play the what was at

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<v Speaker 6>one time the modern passing game where everybody was throwing

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<v Speaker 6>the ball and now you're kind of we're into that mix.

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<v Speaker 6>Where about the Shanahan stuff, you know, and Shanahan's back

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<v Speaker 6>in the day, I was, you know, I competed against

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<v Speaker 6>the father you know, used Denver the way they ran

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<v Speaker 6>the ball and stuff and played with a full back

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<v Speaker 6>and all that. But are are the Cowboys built in

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<v Speaker 6>a way, not at this current configuration, not to play

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<v Speaker 6>against the big offenses and I mean big with full back,

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<v Speaker 6>multiple tight ends, big bodied guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me let me answer that question with a question,

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<v Speaker 5>what was Cleveland? Because Cleveland feels to me like a

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<v Speaker 5>big boy brand of football. Type team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they didn't have their back. Yeah, but that back

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<v Speaker 2>played pretty well for yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, and and Djoku I to me, I'm thinking I'm

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<v Speaker 6>thinking with with Cleveland, maybe not so much with.

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<v Speaker 2>The fullback and all that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they developed, they had a lot of fullback, didn't they.

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<v Speaker 6>The quarterback had something to do with that too. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>just trying to think about the teams that have kind

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<v Speaker 6>of the teams that have given Dallas problems, the teams

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<v Speaker 6>like a San Francisco and even maybe a little bit

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<v Speaker 6>of a Green Bay the way they give Dallas the problems.

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<v Speaker 6>If you play in twenty one personnel or twenty two personnel,

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<v Speaker 6>that seems to be something. But you're right about Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 6>I just don't know if Cleveland and Cleveland, like I say,

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<v Speaker 6>yeah Cleveland, that Cleveland run the ball, they just didn't

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<v Speaker 6>have the guys they normally run the ball with. Now

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<v Speaker 6>San Francisco is watching them against Minnesota this morning. You

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<v Speaker 6>know they've got a guy in Mason that could run

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<v Speaker 6>the ball. Actually is even more physical than McCaffrey running

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<v Speaker 6>the ball. So I was kind of curious, like what

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<v Speaker 6>in Minnesota do to them defensively? A block punt, fourth down, interception,

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<v Speaker 6>you know there was.

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<v Speaker 5>San Francisco has not won in Minnesota since nineteen ninety two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, Yeah, I was like, that seems weird, Like I

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<v Speaker 5>had to go back and rewind on my team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>nineteen ninety two.

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<v Speaker 6>I just I just wondered that about that about cause

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<v Speaker 6>you're BI.

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<v Speaker 2>You were built to play in an era where teams.

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<v Speaker 6>Remember there was a time, Derek, when I was working

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<v Speaker 6>for you here at dot com where we were talking

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<v Speaker 6>about if you ran the ball, and everybody remember how

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<v Speaker 6>much we.

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<v Speaker 2>Would do shows and everything.

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<v Speaker 6>They're running it too much on first down, they're running

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<v Speaker 6>it too much on second down every run play.

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<v Speaker 2>And then everybody that.

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<v Speaker 6>Was an analytics guy or gal was telling you that

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<v Speaker 6>running the football was not the way to go because

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<v Speaker 6>they were.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying, running the football, you don't score enough. Okay, you don't.

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<v Speaker 6>But now where are we We're to the We've built

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<v Speaker 6>these defenses to combat the eleven personnel stuff, and now

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<v Speaker 6>we're trying to get back to build defenses that can

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<v Speaker 6>handle twenty one and twenty two. When I say that

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<v Speaker 6>the two backs too tight end often I'm just for

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<v Speaker 6>Jerry's Jerry, So yeah, always in my mind. But see

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<v Speaker 6>That's where I wonder if Dallas Is did they try

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<v Speaker 6>to with Mazzi Smith. You have three hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 6>nine defensive three h twenty nine pound defensive tackle, which.

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<v Speaker 2>They never did under the Rod Marinelli administration.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're asking defensively specifically, right, are they defensively to

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<v Speaker 4>handle these things? I'll say this twenty twenty three absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you look at the twenty twenty three roster, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>then what has changed since twenty twenty three and twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty four. They've added a couple of big guys in

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<v Speaker 4>the interior. We haven't loved to play from them so far. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>you still only have four guys on your entire defense

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<v Speaker 4>that are over two hundred and seventy pounds. You got

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<v Speaker 4>Osa Digizua, Linval Joseph, Jordan Phillips and Mazzi Smith. Those

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<v Speaker 4>four guys were your four worst run defenders on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>So where does the weight? Where does the size actually

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<v Speaker 4>come with the talent? I'm not quite seeing that so far.

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<v Speaker 4>So I would say no, I would say because I

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<v Speaker 4>know for sure that was the problem last year. They

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<v Speaker 4>were not built that way last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we'll play especially play.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that was more of the issue. Last year's

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<v Speaker 5>injury forced them mental situation where they're still the right

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<v Speaker 5>personnel this year. When you say built, I think they're

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<v Speaker 5>built for it. I just think they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad at it right now. They got the bodies we

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<v Speaker 2>just talked about. They've got big bodies.

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<v Speaker 5>They just aren't good at doing what they need to

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<v Speaker 5>do in order to stop the run. And that's where

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<v Speaker 5>I think, you know, you listen to somebody like Zimmer

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<v Speaker 5>or you listen to what Jerry had to say. Their

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<v Speaker 5>expectation at least is that they think they can fix

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<v Speaker 5>it because they have the bodies. Like, the bodies are there.

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<v Speaker 5>These are body.

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<v Speaker 2>Tests to talent.

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<v Speaker 5>Are they good enough is the question? Are they good

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<v Speaker 5>enough to do what you need them to do in

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<v Speaker 5>order to stop the run.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that the one way.

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<v Speaker 6>And I don't see them waving a magic wand and

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<v Speaker 6>letting everything get fixed and all that, because I think

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<v Speaker 6>they're going to have the same personnel. But you better

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<v Speaker 6>figure out a way to keep these linebackers clean.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care if you have.

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<v Speaker 6>To hold guys coming off the ball, or play with

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<v Speaker 6>better angles or alignment, whatever you have to do, not

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<v Speaker 6>to let guards and centers and tight ends and tackles

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<v Speaker 6>come off on these linebackers, because if those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Are blocked, we see what happens.

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<v Speaker 6>We saw that that they've you know, and some of

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<v Speaker 6>that the Saints, we we interviewed there before the game

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<v Speaker 6>in the pregame show, Mike Costs, their play by play guy,

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<v Speaker 6>he was kind of talking about in the game. Coming

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<v Speaker 6>into the Cowboy game, He's like, yay against Carolina that

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<v Speaker 6>you know that aren't the running back there had not

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<v Speaker 6>been was not touched, you know until like two and

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<v Speaker 6>a half yards down the field albu Kamara was made.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it was two and a half yards before

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<v Speaker 6>he was even getting touched. Kind of felt like even

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<v Speaker 6>more when this game, it felt like he it felt

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<v Speaker 6>like he was getting through.

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<v Speaker 7>The hole and first.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and you know it's like maybe six yards he

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<v Speaker 6>was wouldn't getting touched, but that they were, they were

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<v Speaker 6>that was something he was kind of hanging their hat.

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<v Speaker 6>They're like, hey, we they blocked well enough in the

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<v Speaker 6>running game. You know that. That's we were trying to

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<v Speaker 6>kind of figure out is was this Saints team. Is

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<v Speaker 6>it a smoking mirrors team or is it really a

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<v Speaker 6>legitimate team. It looks like a legitimate team running the football.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>One thing I'll say, though, is I look at teams

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<v Speaker 5>like San Francisco like maybe what we're seeing from the Saints,

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<v Speaker 5>you might throw Green Bay in there. They don't. They

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<v Speaker 5>don't look to me like a power running team like

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<v Speaker 5>you would say Cleveland is Cleveland to me is a

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<v Speaker 5>lineup and we're gonna go at yeah, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>overpower you, right. I don't look at those offenses as

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<v Speaker 5>the kind of offenses that are gonna overpower you. They have,

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<v Speaker 5>they'll go twenty one personnel, but they do a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of different things in that the motions and pre stell like,

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<v Speaker 5>they do so much stuff that I think it almost

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<v Speaker 5>is like it just challenges you all around the field,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's where it's so hard to defend. More so

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<v Speaker 5>than we're gonna line up and we're just bigger, strong.

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<v Speaker 2>With than this team you're about to play with. Ye

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<v Speaker 2>that way. Yeah, I'll tell you this though.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll tell you what the watch in San Francisco with

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<v Speaker 6>Mason that he's replacing you know, uh there McCaffrey, he's

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<v Speaker 6>a downhill player. And then Jacob's playing for Green Bay

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<v Speaker 6>from you know, from the Raiders. That's a different style

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<v Speaker 6>of grade for them. Yeah, that's a different style of

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<v Speaker 6>back for them. That is a hammer. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>so some of these teams have kind of figured out like, man,

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<v Speaker 6>we're cool, we can we can move with the full back,

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<v Speaker 6>we can move with the tight end. The movement part

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<v Speaker 6>of to me is impressive. Just the physicality that these

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<v Speaker 6>teams play with is that's even more impressive. JK.

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<v Speaker 7>Dobbins as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Chargers, the Chargers, and that's the coke.

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<v Speaker 7>But we knew that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 6>Head coaches got like blocking gloves on and cleats and

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<v Speaker 6>you know that's that's his mentality. Yeah, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 6>the attitude that you have there.

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<v Speaker 5>So I just look at at at the way that

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<v Speaker 5>the Cowboys are playing defense right now, and we all

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<v Speaker 5>know they got to fix this part of their It

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<v Speaker 5>is critical long year that they fixed this part of

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<v Speaker 5>the And if you notice, I was watching Good Morning

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<v Speaker 5>Football this morning, they were talking about right now, through

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<v Speaker 5>two games, the league is heavily skewed right now toward

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<v Speaker 5>running more than past.

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<v Speaker 2>See that's and that's the part where you asked that question.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's like, is the league flipping on us now,

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<v Speaker 5>and if it is the Cowboys suited to be able

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<v Speaker 5>to handle the change.

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<v Speaker 6>There was a time where we could not handle eleven personnel. Everybody, jeez,

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<v Speaker 6>we don't have.

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<v Speaker 7>A third quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell? Don't let them do this?

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<v Speaker 8>You know?

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<v Speaker 6>And now and then college football, everybody plays so wide open,

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<v Speaker 6>we're developing corners, and now it's like, well, okay, we're all.

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<v Speaker 2>The big defensive linemen.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, where are those guys to And now teams

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<v Speaker 6>getting back, you know, especially the pro teams are like,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I damn, I knew this was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 6>I figured it was gonna be Belichick. Everybody goes small, small, small,

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<v Speaker 6>and Belichick was going to go big big, big big,

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<v Speaker 6>and then and play. But the forty nine er dudes

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<v Speaker 6>and well, actually the Shanahans at Washington with RG three

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<v Speaker 6>and those guys, they kind of pushed this thing into

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<v Speaker 6>I think twenty seventeen is when we kind of started

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<v Speaker 6>seeing this kind of thing coming up.

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<v Speaker 7>This defense is built like a big twelve defense. They

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<v Speaker 7>need an SEC.

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<v Speaker 2>Defense, not an LSU defense.

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<v Speaker 6>A sorry, yeah, if you want to play Texas defense,

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<v Speaker 6>that's I'm all for that.

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<v Speaker 4>Kirby Smart, you had a question, what's your question? The

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<v Speaker 4>uh you mentioned you mentioned? I completely forgot that I

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<v Speaker 4>have the question you had mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, we're going on to week three into Baltimore, and

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<v Speaker 4>it feels like a little tougher to go into week

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<v Speaker 4>three this time around. Do you feel like it's the

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<v Speaker 4>same way across the hall. It's a little tougher to

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<v Speaker 4>go into week three with a.

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<v Speaker 7>Loss like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like from a mentality standpoint, from a cerebrush point.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the kind of loss, Derek. You were around when

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<v Speaker 6>we had those rushers. That was every week it was

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<v Speaker 6>a two hundred yard rusher against us, remember Charlie Garner

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<v Speaker 6>and yep, Ricky Waters. And every week it seemed like

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<v Speaker 6>that was hard. And you're going in and you're thinking, damn,

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<v Speaker 6>we were not very good stopping the run. And then

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<v Speaker 6>all of a sudden, you kicked the tape on with

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<v Speaker 6>the Ravens and there's twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty two.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh look there's a fullback. Oh there's three tight ends.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh there's oh look, there's a shifty move wide receiver

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<v Speaker 6>that catches everything. Oh wow, this quarterback really runs really well.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, that's that's the thing you could get a

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<v Speaker 6>little beat down. The challenge is going to be for

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<v Speaker 6>them to of course, to play with better you know,

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<v Speaker 6>with better scheme and and better you know, better strength power,

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<v Speaker 6>whatever you want to play. I mean, they're gonna have

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<v Speaker 6>to get off some blocks in this game because this

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<v Speaker 6>this when we get into this, this thing will challenge you.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think that's the thing that would that's the

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<v Speaker 6>thing that would give me some pause for this week,

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<v Speaker 6>is you just went from the frying pan looks like,

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<v Speaker 6>to the fire with this. With the way the Ravens offense,

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<v Speaker 6>it's not about throwing the ball with them, it's really

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<v Speaker 6>about that big back and it's about the quarterback's ability

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<v Speaker 6>to run and an offensive line will come off the

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<v Speaker 6>football the way they do.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it's just from a mentality standpoint, it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's got to be a little bit tougher to move on,

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<v Speaker 4>especially considering the problems that they had in week two

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<v Speaker 4>and how much better the Ravens are at each of

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<v Speaker 4>those problems. Yeah, they say it's gonna be a quick

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<v Speaker 4>application in learning, well learning and application.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what you know.

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<v Speaker 6>For the defensive side of the ball, especially the defense

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<v Speaker 6>has to look at this and say, okay, we we

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<v Speaker 6>we saw. Maybe if you go down there and you

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<v Speaker 6>shut the Saints out the way you do, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>playing the way that they did with the twenty one

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<v Speaker 6>twenty two personnel, you shut them down, you feel a

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<v Speaker 6>lot better about playing the Ravens right now. You have

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<v Speaker 6>to think about, man, everything that they exposed, the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 2>Do and do it pretty well.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the I mean, they're oh to two, but I'm

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<v Speaker 6>watching them play Kansas City and then watching they you know,

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<v Speaker 6>they've had they've had a history of falling apart in

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<v Speaker 6>the fourth, much like the Philadelphia Eagles have. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>they've they've blown some double digit leads. A field goal

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<v Speaker 6>kicker ain't making fifty seven yard field goals anymore too.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, there's some things going on there. So but

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<v Speaker 6>this offense, it's it's got to look at what you

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<v Speaker 6>did in the Saints game and feel like, wow, we

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<v Speaker 6>can have some success doing this or doing that.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome back. It is the second segment of the Break

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<v Speaker 2>At the Star.

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<v Speaker 5>We're presented by LG. Let's go into this breakdown. Actually,

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<v Speaker 5>before we get to the breakdown, that was a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit of cowboys news we just heard about. You want

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<v Speaker 5>to catch us up Nick.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so a defensive tackle Jordan Phillips, who was acquired

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<v Speaker 4>during training camp in a trade with the New York Giants.

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<v Speaker 4>He has been placed on injured reserve with a wrist injury,

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<v Speaker 4>meaning he will miss a minimum of at least four games.

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<v Speaker 4>In his place, the Cowboys have signed Carlos Watkins, bringing

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<v Speaker 4>back an old friend. He was on the Washington Commander's

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<v Speaker 4>practice squad. Dallas poached him and signed him to the

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<v Speaker 4>active roster so he could be ready to go as

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<v Speaker 4>early as this week.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Hopefully that can give him a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>of relief.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember if you remember Corlos Carlos Watkins days here

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<v Speaker 5>and what he was able to do here. But I

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<v Speaker 5>don't even know if he's still that player.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, we need to we need to maybe figure

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<v Speaker 6>that out. We got some of us have the ability

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<v Speaker 6>to watch the tape. Others don't you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I got him on back. I'm good.

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<v Speaker 6>I was a little worried about you there for a minute, man, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. I'll say it.

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<v Speaker 6>Nothing better than that watching that tape that way, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>talking about the with the Ravens and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 6>and what's you know, what's what's ahead for you. It's

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<v Speaker 6>it's very similar to what you saw with the Saints

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<v Speaker 6>as far as personnel groups. You're going to see a

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<v Speaker 6>team that plays with the full back with Patrick Ricard.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>Not to be confused with the guy in the Star

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<v Speaker 6>Trek episode, Jocard. Yeah, not to be confused with him. Uh,

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<v Speaker 6>but yeah, Patrick Ricard. This is a team that plays

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<v Speaker 6>with the real full back.

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<v Speaker 12>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>They played with the legitimate running backs too. Derrick Henry

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<v Speaker 6>is Uh. We all know the history of Derek Henry.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't have to, you know, we all see the

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<v Speaker 6>body type, the ability that he has. They line him

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<v Speaker 6>up in a pistol formation, which is directly behind the

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<v Speaker 6>quarterback a lot of the time, and then Jackson, Lamar

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<v Speaker 6>Jackson will take the snap and they'll just turn and

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<v Speaker 6>hand it to him and then let him attack down hill.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh.

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<v Speaker 6>They'll also this is a team that likes to get

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<v Speaker 6>the ball on the edge if they can, because they've

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<v Speaker 6>got tight ends that are really good at blocking. When

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<v Speaker 6>you look at Mark Andrews, Mark Andrews always plays detached

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<v Speaker 6>and I mean you know, he'll be either as a

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<v Speaker 6>wing or he'll play like in a slot. It's rare

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<v Speaker 6>that you see him down there playing what we call

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<v Speaker 6>the in line tight end or right there on the line.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's always going to be a guy there when.

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<v Speaker 6>They get when when they run the ball at times

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<v Speaker 6>that will get these really tight bunch formations, and then

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<v Speaker 6>you'll see, you know, you'll see maybe Isaiah likely the

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<v Speaker 6>tight end, and then Mark Andrews the tight end, and

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<v Speaker 6>then Ricard all on the same side, and you're thinking,

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<v Speaker 6>my gosh, you're loading up to run the ball over there.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the next thing you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know is Jackson will pull the ball and he'll go

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<v Speaker 6>around the other end. So they make it appear that

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<v Speaker 6>they're running one direction, that they're going to load up

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<v Speaker 6>on one side, and you're gonna be you're going to be,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, looking at that and going, okay, well here

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<v Speaker 6>comes the strength. Here comes They're they're setting this thing up.

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<v Speaker 6>They're putting all their blockers to one side, and now

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<v Speaker 6>they're going to But the thing you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 6>worry about with this Lamar Jackson is his ability to

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<v Speaker 6>pull the football and run that That is something that

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<v Speaker 6>he is. He's not the thrower that you faced last week,

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<v Speaker 6>but he's an elite runner.

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<v Speaker 2>With the ball in his hands.

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<v Speaker 6>He's like having an extra running back with with unbelievable

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<v Speaker 6>ability to make you miss. So you're going to have

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<v Speaker 6>to play discipline. You're gonna have to tackle well in

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<v Speaker 6>this game.

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<v Speaker 2>Every game. You got to tackle well. But this guy shakes.

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<v Speaker 6>Loose more tackles, makes guys, breaks guys down. He makes

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<v Speaker 6>small little plays that look like they're going to be

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<v Speaker 6>stopped into huge plays, and so you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 6>be ready for that. His ability to run the football.

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<v Speaker 6>But they're there. They're sound with their tight end room.

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<v Speaker 6>They're very good with their running back room. They're wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the best wide receiver that they have on

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<v Speaker 6>their team is Zay Flowers from Boston College.

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<v Speaker 2>And Zay is the one.

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<v Speaker 6>He wears number four, and he's going to be the

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<v Speaker 6>guy that constantly plays in motion. They keep him on

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<v Speaker 6>the move. They like to when they play under center.

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<v Speaker 6>They'll hand him the ball and the Jets sweep if

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<v Speaker 6>they if they get under center and then he runs

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<v Speaker 6>a jet sweep and they fake it and then they

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<v Speaker 6>flip it to Justice Hill or they'll flip it to Henry.

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<v Speaker 6>So they've got some different combinations. But they'll Jay Flowers

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<v Speaker 6>is a guy on the move, they'll throw them the screens.

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<v Speaker 6>They like to run him up the field and kind

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<v Speaker 6>of curl him back inside and then make it an

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<v Speaker 6>easy throw for Jackson to have to make. They really

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<v Speaker 6>try hard, you know, Todd makin their oc. He tries

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<v Speaker 6>really hard to make as many easy throws as he

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<v Speaker 6>can for Jackson. And so you're going to see a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of routes where they go up and turn back.

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<v Speaker 6>Last week we saw a lot of the crossing routes.

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<v Speaker 6>You'll see a few of those crossing routes from what

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<v Speaker 6>I saw in two games with the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 2>But they really rely they.

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<v Speaker 6>Want Jackson throwing the stationary targets because he's more accurate

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<v Speaker 6>throwing the ball that way their offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>Real quick.

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<v Speaker 5>Before we go to there, I want to talk specifically

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<v Speaker 5>about the passing game. Right now, they're ranked number one

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<v Speaker 5>in total offense with the one hundred and thirty five

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<v Speaker 5>yards and they're actually the interesting part about is a

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<v Speaker 5>fourth and passing with one or ninety nine yards seventh

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<v Speaker 5>and rushing at three hundred and thirty six yards. What's

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<v Speaker 5>the key to the passing game? Because I going into

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<v Speaker 5>this game. My assumption was that they're rushing, their running

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<v Speaker 5>game would be much better than their passing game, but

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<v Speaker 5>it looks like they've gotten more out of their passing games.

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<v Speaker 6>It's today, It's Bateman the receiver is a nice player

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<v Speaker 6>as a two ZA Flowers. I think has been really

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<v Speaker 6>really good in the two games I watched. Like I say,

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<v Speaker 6>they they try and create opportunities for for Jackson not

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<v Speaker 6>to have to make some crazy throws. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 6>it's it's it's Andrew's up inside, likely up inside, likely

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<v Speaker 6>up outside.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just some some.

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<v Speaker 6>Simple type of a spot, stay to a spot, stand there,

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<v Speaker 6>and they've they've they do a good job.

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<v Speaker 2>They're good.

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<v Speaker 4>An extension of that, they are good offscript and that

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<v Speaker 4>that has helped facilitate their games and some the areas

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<v Speaker 4>where they are just trying to pressure Lamar Jackson, not

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<v Speaker 4>let him go anywhere he can escape and make some

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<v Speaker 4>things happen.

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<v Speaker 6>He made a throw against the Raiders. I don't know

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<v Speaker 6>if you got to see the Raiders tape at all.

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<v Speaker 6>He gets flushed to his right and he throws the

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<v Speaker 6>ball all the way across the field of flowers, and

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<v Speaker 6>so like they just lost him like it's like a

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<v Speaker 6>it's the play breaks down and now Jackson's running. And

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<v Speaker 6>there's times where you see him running and moving around

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<v Speaker 6>and him having to throw off his back foot and

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<v Speaker 6>him not get enough on the ball or get it

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<v Speaker 6>to the outside with enough pace. You know, when he

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<v Speaker 6>stands and able to throw, he's kind of a flick

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<v Speaker 6>the wrist quarterback. He's not a big, winded up and

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<v Speaker 6>let it fly guy. He's more of a just kind

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<v Speaker 6>of sit there and flick and so you see, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>that's why the underneath stuff, the out stuff. He's able

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<v Speaker 6>to throw those things. And I wouldn't be surprised if

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<v Speaker 6>they try and take a shot after what we saw

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<v Speaker 6>last week with the seventy yarder. And you know, if

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<v Speaker 6>they could get Zay Flowers. They've got Nelson Aguilar who's

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<v Speaker 6>kind of could be a vertical player, but Flowers is

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<v Speaker 6>the one that I think that they'll they'll probably take

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<v Speaker 6>the shot with.

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<v Speaker 7>Let me ask you something one Flowers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the last three years that Flowers was at Boston College,

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<v Speaker 4>he worked with Steve Shimko, who's now an offensive assistant

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<v Speaker 4>with the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that helps in any way?

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<v Speaker 6>That was my question, Yeah, how to defend him?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it could be just you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I know these little nuances that he didn't do great

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<v Speaker 4>with two years to go in college.

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<v Speaker 7>Does he work?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe? Why do I feel like? Why do I feel like?

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<v Speaker 2>You know that?

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<v Speaker 6>And maybe across the hall they're not. Maybe if our

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<v Speaker 6>coach steps up and says, hey, I was with this

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<v Speaker 6>guy at Boston College, anybody wants to know. But no,

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<v Speaker 6>I I think that the thing with Flowers to me

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<v Speaker 6>and the way they kind of they try and keep

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<v Speaker 6>you from getting a bead on where he is is

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<v Speaker 6>the movement with him. You know how they like to

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 6>move him across the formation. Uh, they like to keep

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<v Speaker 6>him moving so you can't double him or if you

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<v Speaker 6>or it shows if you man, maybe you're running and

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:42.719
<v Speaker 6>he's running you through trash that type of player. But

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<v Speaker 6>I he's a good young player. I mean he catches

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<v Speaker 6>the ball. He's he catches the ball. Well, there's a

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<v Speaker 6>couple of times where there were contested catches in the

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<v Speaker 6>Raiders game where he was he had he they got

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<v Speaker 6>knocked it out of his hands. But other than that,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean he is a web I I can say.

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<v Speaker 6>I think this running game is going to be the

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<v Speaker 6>thing that these linemen are. They're really They've got some

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<v Speaker 6>guys that that have got some athletic but the center

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<v Speaker 6>Tyler Lindebaum. If you watch the draft show, if you

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<v Speaker 6>follow the draft show, we were kind of all hopeful

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 6>that they would have drafted Tyler. But he's a he's

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<v Speaker 6>a smaller guy, you know, he's a lighter, smaller guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But they pull him.

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<v Speaker 6>They get all these guys out in space. We've seen

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<v Speaker 6>the crack toss. We saw that, the pin and poll stuff,

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<v Speaker 6>we saw that last week. It's all stuff that the

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<v Speaker 6>that the Ravens do if they have a problem in

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<v Speaker 6>past protection. And I'm gonna Nick, I'm glad you're here.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the right tackle is Daniel?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh Yeah? I always always Daniel. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>for you.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Well, anyway, he's the one guy at the right

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<v Speaker 6>guard spot that he came from. He's a massive guy

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<v Speaker 6>and he he came from the yeah, from the University

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<v Speaker 6>of Minnesota, and Minnesota at the time during COVID Derek,

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<v Speaker 6>they had guys that were six year players, six year

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<v Speaker 6>starters on their offensive line and Foalole was one of

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<v Speaker 6>these guys. He was a tackle and I remember him

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<v Speaker 6>because how big he was. He's six' eighties, three hundred

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<v Speaker 6>and eighty pounds, and so he's a massive guy. So

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<v Speaker 6>how do you take advantage of maybe a little bit

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<v Speaker 6>of lack of foot quickness? And that's what some people

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<v Speaker 6>were able to do with him. You know, he is

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<v Speaker 6>not the quickest guy when it comes to coming off

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<v Speaker 6>the ball, and he's the one guy when matched up

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<v Speaker 6>one on one. I went back and I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>give me the guys with all the pressures. This is

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<v Speaker 6>the guy that gives up the most pressures and that's

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<v Speaker 6>the guard. So somehow, some way, if you know, you

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<v Speaker 6>get you know, if OsO Diggy Zoowa, somebody can find

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<v Speaker 6>a way, if you can get these guys into some

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<v Speaker 6>passing situations, that's the guy right there that I would

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<v Speaker 6>probably take a shot at, because the more I watched him,

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<v Speaker 6>the more I saw a three hundred and eighty pound

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<v Speaker 6>man that struggled with quickness and struggle with his own

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<v Speaker 6>quickness off the football.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, let's go ahead and take our final break.

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<v Speaker 5>stop him? And does do the Cowboys have the things

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<v Speaker 5>about Derrick Henry. He is a first year with the

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<v Speaker 5>Baltimore Ravens. He has been throughout his career menace when

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<v Speaker 5>it comes to trying to tackle him. What is if

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<v Speaker 5>there's anything that slows him down? What exactly is it?

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<v Speaker 5>And does Dallas have that key ingredient? In order to

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<v Speaker 5>nullify him or at least slow him down a bit

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<v Speaker 5>in a game like this.

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<v Speaker 4>For me, if I could at least from his time

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<v Speaker 4>with the Titans, there's a small sample size for his

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<v Speaker 4>time with the Ravens. He had decent O lines during

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<v Speaker 4>his time with the Titans, and you know, they were

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<v Speaker 4>able to pay running lanes for him, but he was

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<v Speaker 4>really able to succeed when they had passing weapons that

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<v Speaker 4>were able to, you know, kind of distribute the the

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<v Speaker 4>intention from opposing defenses.

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<v Speaker 7>And does Baltimore have that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they do, and say Flowers and a healthy

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<v Speaker 4>Mark Andrews, and especially a Lamar Jackson type weapon that

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<v Speaker 4>they also have to account for. So for me, it's

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<v Speaker 4>always been okay, if they are not threatened by the

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<v Speaker 4>other weapons on the team, then they load up the

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<v Speaker 4>box and they go after Henry and they're typically able

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<v Speaker 4>to find some success doing that. So whenever they can

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<v Speaker 4>apply two or three guys on him, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 4>that's the obvious kind of solution to taking down a

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<v Speaker 4>bowling ball. But that's that's kind of what I've seen

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<v Speaker 4>in the past. You have to put multiple guys on him,

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<v Speaker 4>and one guy cannot bring him down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean I was just looking through his game logs.

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<v Speaker 6>He's had some days like, yeah, at a buck eighty

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<v Speaker 6>eight against Kansas City, and you know in twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 6>follow that up with a buck fifty nine against Jacksonville,

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<v Speaker 6>followed that up with a with a buck forty nine

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<v Speaker 6>against Indy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>This, this scheme that the Ravens have allows him. You

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<v Speaker 6>would think that that tossing him the ball or you

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 6>know sometimes those big backs, you know, I remember Brandon Jacobs, Yeah,

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 6>with the Giants, and you wanted to get Brandon Jacob's

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 6>playing sideways. You know, you wanted if you could get

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 6>penetration up the field, hold the point and then make

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 6>him have to bounce or play sideways, you had a

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 6>really good chance of slowing down a big back like that.

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 6>It's when these guys see an opening and then they

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 6>hand him the ball. They just turn and hand it

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 6>and now he's going downhill at a hole that's it's

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 6>difficult to close or to get somebody over. And just

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 6>the way that the Ravens with the he could he's

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 6>really good taking it inside. He's good at taking it

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 6>inside and bouncing it. He's good bouncing it he's good

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 6>taking it straight outside. But the Ravens have got all

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 6>these disability with their They're they're like especially their left

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 6>tackle Staley, that running off the left side, Andrews Staley

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 6>likely you know, they get a crack over there, they

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 6>get by East and they and the recard they just

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 6>push you. And now you got your fighting blocks and

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 6>they got this two hundred and fifty pound guy running

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 6>the ball at you.

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 2>It makes it very, very difficult.

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 6>And you know the best thing I can think of

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 6>with with to try is just just to crowd that line.

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:24.399
<v Speaker 6>And you know what, if Lamar Jackson's going to beat

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 6>you throwing the ball this game.

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 2>So be it, so be it.

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 6>I might put every body I got in that box

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 6>and dare them to beat me throwing the football. And

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 6>if you're good enough doing that, then I tip my

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:41.320
<v Speaker 6>hat to you. But I am not going to let

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:44.760
<v Speaker 6>you hand the ball to that guy eighteen nineteen times

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 6>in this game and get one hundred and fifty one

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 6>hundred and sixty yards. I'm not going to do it.

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 6>I'm going to put as many bodies in that box

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 6>and I'm going to say I dare you. And on

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:56.360
<v Speaker 6>the flip side of that. If I was the Ravens,

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 6>I would play dime the whole game.

0:34:58.239 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 2>I would think the exact same thing as you.

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, just play dime the whole game. And like, listen,

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:05.320
<v Speaker 6>I dare you to run the ball today. I dare

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 6>you to try and run the ball today. Because you

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 6>won't run the ball, you will throw against my dime package.

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 6>Both teams are in a in a little bit of

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 6>a bind. You know, Jackson could throw, but Jackson will

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 6>also make some mistakes. You'll make some mistakes. But it

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 6>to me, I I load that box up, and I'm like,

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.360
<v Speaker 6>if you're good, if you're gonna if you're running against

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 6>eight nine guys the whole day and you have success,

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 6>my god, you're a better football team than me.

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's how I would play this.

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I mean you're gonna be asking these d

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:37.879
<v Speaker 4>beasts to be playing a lot of one on one,

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 4>but hey, this season.

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 6>Yes, I you know what, I have a better chance.

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 6>I would have a better chance of stopping the run

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 6>and stopping them, you know.

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 2>And like I say.

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 6>Make Lamar Jackson, make him drive the ball, throwing the ball,

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 6>make him Yeah, if he if he's if he keeps

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 6>hitting flowers, and hits the tight end and hit you

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:59.799
<v Speaker 6>know they keep doing that, then then that's you know, hey,

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.720
<v Speaker 6>it's better than them running the ball down your throat

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 6>because you're probably gonna get Jackson making a mistake. You know,

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 6>he'll overthrow one, he'll throw one behind a guy, they'll

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.280
<v Speaker 6>get tipped in the air. Maybe you get a turnover,

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 6>but you really don't right now, after last week, your

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.240
<v Speaker 6>answer for playing run defense is not great.

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think one solution that could help you win

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 4>this game. You just need to figure out how to

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 4>win the time of possession battle. If you can figure

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 4>that one out, because they are going to come out

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:30.760
<v Speaker 4>and run on first and second down almost every single

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 4>play or almost every single drive. If you can somehow

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 4>figure out how to win the time of possession battle

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:36.799
<v Speaker 4>within all of that, you might find a way to

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 4>win this game. But I just that's where I don't

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 4>see the Cowboys being able to make up that difference,

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:43.400
<v Speaker 4>because hey, they don't have a running game, so it's

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 4>not like they can chunk clock around.

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 7>I think it's going to be a ten minute difference

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 7>at the end of this game.

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 5>We didn't talk much yesterday about Damoon Clark, but I

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:52.919
<v Speaker 5>want to get an evaluation from both of you guys,

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:54.720
<v Speaker 5>what did you see from him in this last game,

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 5>and then you can even go back to game number one,

0:36:57.440 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 5>what did you see from him really over those two games,

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 5>and how do you evaluate where he is at this point.

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 4>I think with Damon Clark, obviously a lot of responsibilities

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 4>have been taken over, his taken off of his plate

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 4>coming into twenty twenty four and still trying to find

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 4>his new role, I think is still the assessment that

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 4>I see from the first two games. But I think

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 4>there was no player on the defensive side of the

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 4>ball that I could have credited great play to. I

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:24.800
<v Speaker 4>think Michael Parsons had some moments. I think Chauncey Golsten

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 4>had some moments, but I want to look at Damn

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:30.439
<v Speaker 4>Clark specifically. I mean, there was times that I mentioned

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 4>where Eric Kendricks Mayslea fal even overshown in mensusis we're

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:35.320
<v Speaker 4>having to play two gaps at a time. Yeah, and

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 4>there were times when Demonk Clark was having to do

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 4>the same thing. But there was also times when de

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 4>moonk Clark had a one gap reading he missed it.

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:43.720
<v Speaker 4>So it's like, I think it's still trying to figure out.

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 6>That a role.

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 4>But also he needs a consistent defensive front to be

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 4>able to do that. When you're being asked to do

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 4>something and the people around you are not doing their jobs,

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 4>it's really tough.

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he's he's a good player, he's not good enough

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 6>to do everyone else's job. I think Nick's right about

0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 6>that when you ask him, Okay, your responsibility is this.

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:06.320
<v Speaker 6>I think he's pretty good at doing that. But don't

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:09.319
<v Speaker 6>ask him to do a lot of things. And this

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 6>is where that comes in about with overshown. You know,

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 6>how how do you find a way? Is that leaf

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:18.880
<v Speaker 6>Al Clark who comes off the field. My gut feeling

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 6>is if they had to take a guy off the field,

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 6>they would probably take Clark off the field, would be

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:27.399
<v Speaker 6>my guess. H And if to play overshown. But again,

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 6>here's here's a team you're probably gonna see. You know,

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 6>eighty nine percent of their their their snaps last week

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 6>were base defensive snaps. You know, this team gets in

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 6>that twenty one personnel twenty two personnel like we saw.

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 6>You know, the Ravens are going to say, okay, we're

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 6>going to make you play based defense again because you

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 6>didn't do a very good job of that. But to me,

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 6>if you need to think about you need to think

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.239
<v Speaker 6>about where Overshown fits in that bass package. You need

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 6>his ability to finish with you know, he when he

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:57.799
<v Speaker 6>could get through a hole or he didn't have to

0:38:57.800 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 6>fight the block and he can run, He could tack

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 6>guys for no gains or small gains. You need that

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 6>on the field.

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Right now.

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 5>Let's flip that and let's do an evaluation on Kaitlin

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 5>Carson rookie had two games. Now what are you seeing

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 5>from him that he's doing well? And what are areas

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 5>where you look at it and you say, if he

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 5>doesn't fix this, other teams are going to see it

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 5>and it's going to be exploited in future weeks.

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:22.880
<v Speaker 4>I'll start with that backside thought speed. We saw that

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 4>on display Rashid Shaheed or a Lave, these guys were

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 4>able to get some wiggle off of them, you know,

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 4>at the top of their routes and was able to

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 4>kind of get away from Carson at times. Carson is

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 4>an aggressive guy, and I think that's probably what Al

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.879
<v Speaker 4>Harris saw on film from Wake Forest and said, hey,

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 4>we want this guy because we can kind of fine

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:41.400
<v Speaker 4>tune this a little bit and make a turnover machine

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 4>out of it. With that being said, though, you're still

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 4>going to have a lot of cons that come with that,

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 4>and one of those being accounting for speed. I think

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 4>at times that was Stefan Gilmore's biggest issue last year,

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 4>especially later down the season. So when he lines up

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 4>against these speed weapons, they are able to blow by him,

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 4>and we saw that on a multiple occasions from Rashid Shaheed,

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 4>Chris Alave and some of those other passing weapons for

0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 4>the for the Saints, even at a couple of snaps

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:06.879
<v Speaker 4>where he's lined up on Kamara. I think I think

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:08.760
<v Speaker 4>with Kayln Carson, it's it's going to be a reps

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:12.319
<v Speaker 4>thing for sure. But I think if he can he

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 4>can get a little bit more depth at pre snap,

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 4>he'll be able to kind of account for that a

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 4>little bit more. Yeah, because I like the physicality from him.

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:21.879
<v Speaker 4>I just want that physicality at the top of routes too,

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 4>even if it comes with penalties.

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 7>I'm okay with that. We haven't seen that yet.

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:28.440
<v Speaker 4>I would be okay if he has a physicality penalty

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 4>at the end of the day, if it shows that

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:31.760
<v Speaker 4>he's trying to push guys off off the route.

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 6>Man, I maybe this approach is terrible to take. I

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:39.720
<v Speaker 6>would play him as much press as I could, because

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 6>he I feel like, yeah, give me the I feel

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 6>like a depth they can run on him and I don't.

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:50.920
<v Speaker 2>And when they run on him, I don't know.

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:54.839
<v Speaker 6>I think he's his quickness is good, but I don't

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 6>think it's I don't think it's the ability to like

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 6>to peddle and to turn and to go. I think

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:04.440
<v Speaker 6>anything when he could play press and get hands on

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 6>and then try and maybe make that receiver have to

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:11.919
<v Speaker 6>start stop, start again, that kind kind of play into

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.759
<v Speaker 6>a strength. You could see the separation on the end

0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 6>cut routes and the things like that. I mean, at depth,

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 6>it just didn't seem like there was that explosiveness that

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 6>you really wanted. I mean, there's I could also see

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:28.840
<v Speaker 6>being a little nervous about the speed, you know. You know,

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 6>we've seen him in the remember the Rams preseason game

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.840
<v Speaker 6>where he looked very tentative playing, you know, and I

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 6>felt like against the Browns he was a little bit

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 6>more aggressive what he needed to be. And then all

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 6>of a sudden, you can deal with some guys that

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:44.279
<v Speaker 6>can run a little bit then, But I would play

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:46.880
<v Speaker 6>him as much press and just let him bang guys

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:50.360
<v Speaker 6>at the line of scrimmage, bang them, run and sink

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 6>and go with him the huge play they had, the

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 6>huge the seventy yard touchdown pass. They're playing cover too,

0:41:57.560 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 6>And I said it, they're playing cover too, and he's

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 6>got a jam in sink.

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 2>He misses the jam. He doesn't even jam, he just sinks.

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 2>And now you got a free runner on those safeties.

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 2>And so he's got to learn. You know, your technique

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 2>is important. If they ask you to jam, you got

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 2>your jam. The defense depends on you playing it the

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 2>right way. But me personally, I worry about him playing

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:21.280
<v Speaker 2>from some depth.

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 6>I know he was his zone player, but until he

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:26.080
<v Speaker 6>kind of gets a good feel for it, I'd put

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 6>him up, let him be physical, let him try and

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 6>run with defenders or excu me receivers. If he gets

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 6>a couple of defensive holding penalties, fine their five yard penalties,

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 6>but learn learn along the way to on how to

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 6>make those plays.

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:40.839
<v Speaker 4>Do you think there's a more a higher likelihood though,

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 4>if he's playing more press, he's going to give up

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 4>more big plays at the end of the day.

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 2>If he misses with the jams. Sure, okay, sure, But

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 2>to me, is.

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 7>That because of the speed, Because of the speed.

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:54.680
<v Speaker 6>I think, to me, if depending on how much cover

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:57.880
<v Speaker 6>two you play, maybe if you're one of those safeties,

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 6>if you're a hooker or you're Wilson, especially hooker, keep

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 6>an eye on the rookie side of the field, you know.

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Keep it digs.

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 6>Digs you can digs, you can say, Okay, he's fine,

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:12.840
<v Speaker 6>I need to think about cheating over to this guy's

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.439
<v Speaker 6>side a little bit until they kind of figure those

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 6>things out. Beat a couple times digs did digs from

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:23.800
<v Speaker 6>depth too, running running inside, you know, and that's something

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<v Speaker 6>you did, You really were when these guys play off.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just it doesn't seem like anybody in the league

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<v Speaker 6>is covering the crossing routes anymore. Oh yeah, every time

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<v Speaker 6>I look up, somebody's hitting a big play on the

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<v Speaker 6>crossing routes. Nobody able to kind of carry outs inside.

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<v Speaker 6>And when I'm looking at corners, that's what I always

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<v Speaker 6>think about. You carry outs inside. You can play cornerback

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<v Speaker 6>for me.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it used to be a time when you could

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<v Speaker 5>defend the crossing routes by having a safety down there

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<v Speaker 5>would just break the guy in half. Yeah, you can't

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<v Speaker 5>really do that in the same way anymore. We don't

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<v Speaker 5>live in the days of Ronnie Lotton new or being

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<v Speaker 5>able to just kind of break guys up. Yea, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I think my question for you guys on Kaylan do

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<v Speaker 5>you feel like he is as I as I put

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<v Speaker 5>it age appropriate. Do you feel like he is where

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<v Speaker 5>he's supposed to be at this point in his career

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<v Speaker 5>or do you think he's ahead?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think he's behind.

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<v Speaker 7>I think he's ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean if you're looking at a fifth round pick rookie,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you're getting what you You're getting more than

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<v Speaker 4>what you could have expected out of him when you

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<v Speaker 4>picked him an April.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's a liability at all time.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean teams have thrown the ball at him and

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<v Speaker 6>you know he's just he's got to he's got to

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<v Speaker 6>take better angles.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, these are things he's gonna line. Yeah, these

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<v Speaker 2>are things.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean like when the game the game is a

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<v Speaker 6>fast game, it is really and when when they throw

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<v Speaker 6>a screen and you got to take an angle that

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<v Speaker 6>could have been you know, you tackle Kamara. It's a

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<v Speaker 6>it's a twelve yard game. It's not a fifty seven

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<v Speaker 6>yard touchdown if you take a better angle there. There

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<v Speaker 6>are things he's going to have to learn along the way,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know they'll be able to point it out

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<v Speaker 6>to him. Now he's doing these playing, Now he's playing.

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<v Speaker 6>I trust Al Harris to get him to where he

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<v Speaker 6>needs to be, you know, in the coming weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>That seven yards seven yard, Yeah, Kendrick's just not just missing.

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<v Speaker 6>Kendrick's overrunning to play. And then Carson's angle was bad too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, we appreciate you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Jones will be back tomorrow. We'll get into the Ravens

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<v Speaker 5>defense versus the Cowboys offense till then, for Nick Harris

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