WEBVTT - EXCLUSIVE: Married to Medicine's Quad Webb 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.600 Hey, rain Drops. Yes, so I finally got merch. That's right. 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:10.799 You can buy your Allegedly and my Voice mugs, T shirts, 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:16.000 rain Drops, hoodies and T shirts all on Carlos Kingshop 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:17.200 dot com. 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:18.119 That's right. 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:22.360 Get your hoodies, your T shirts, and your mugs all 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:29.639 on Carlos Kingshop dot com. Welcome to Reality with the King. 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:33.760 It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:37.560 one of the most sought after executive producers in reality 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:41.879 television with over ten years of production experience. Once a 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:44.640 week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:49.080 my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:53.080 shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking 0:00:53.479 --> 0:01:02.720 and tweeting about going on. And I just happened to 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:06.080 be in the neighborhood. Yeah, because I saw the last 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:08.280 episode and. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.640 I wanted to let you know that you have a 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:12.200 friend in me. 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:13.360 Thank you. 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.280 And one thing about our relationship that I don't think 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.440 a lot of people know, because I'm very private when 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:24.080 it comes to private conversations that I have with my 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:26.360 girls in reality television. 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:28.920 Everyone knows this. 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.919 I think by now that a lot of the black 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.080 theme of reality stars. Even though white ones child, you 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:38.120 all lean on me for advice, and I never share 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:41.319 anything publicly because I'm here as a friend and not 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.880 somebody who's trying to get anything out of you. So 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:48.000 based on what's been happening this season, even before this season, Baby, 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.360 I feel like I am the married to medicine field reporter. 0:01:53.000 --> 0:02:00.200 Baby, Baby, I'm talking my boots on the ground, on 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:04.040 the ground maybe, honey. 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:09.320 I feel like finally the show is getting just do. 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:11.640 And here's the thing. First of all, I got so 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:12.320 much to say. 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:14.880 It's so great to see you. It's so good to 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:16.640 see you, so good to spend some time with you. 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.760 We go back, so people don't even understand how far 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:24.320 we go back, you know, years, Yeah, And I just 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:27.239 want to first thank you for being who you were then. 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:32.800 And you are the exact same person to me now 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:37.480 that you were then. Absolutely amazing, a soundboard, a person 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:43.080 who cares. And it's funny because people would think, you know, Carlos, 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:44.560 it's all about TV TV TV. 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.720 There's such another component. 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.840 Of you in terms of being a real friend, where 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:52.239 you would say. 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:54.519 Bron move mm hmm. 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.400 Now I'm not gonna have that for you. 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.840 You know, you give very good. 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:06.280 Sound advice and even if it's not to your benefit, 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.120 you know. But but here's the thing, a lot of 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.880 people in production don't do that, oh I see saying, 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:17.799 because sometimes people who are in production, they're always producing, 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:23.000 so it's challenging to have something real with them or 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:27.799 to have a real relationship, you know, and to sometimes 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:28.959 trust what they're saying. 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.960 I have said some things to you before and you're like, girl, 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.280 that's it, but that's not you. 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:41.400 Know, And I appreciate that, and I appreciate you you 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.400 telling me even when like, well, I don't know that 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.680 one you probably could have did that a little. 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:47.040 Different than what I'm saying. 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.560 Yeah, but I truly do appreciate that. So I just 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.400 want to say thank you so much and really thank 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:54.680 you for. 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:55.320 Coming to check on me. 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:01.160 You text me what was that the other day? And 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.480 you said, I just want to know if you're good. 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:09.480 I'm not liking how some things I'm saying. Are you good? 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:16.600 Don't tell me the strong cud. Are you good? 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:22.760 And you know what I mean? Mentally? Are you good? Emotionally? 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:23.760 Are you good? 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:37.159 And it's tough, it's tough. Last week was really tough. 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:43.520 Last week was really tough, and I don't want this 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:46.080 to be a down No, I'm saying like, I don't 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.840 want this to be that. I'm trying my best to 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:49.560 not let. 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:51.920 That take over. 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.799 But I want to say just thank you for checking 0:04:55.839 --> 0:05:01.640 in on me authentically. I'm talking about authentic with no motive, 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.039 with no ins, but good. 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:05.040 I want to thank you. 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:08.080 You're welcome. Listen, You're one of my babies. You know 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:08.480 what I mean. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:13.520 I feel like when it comes to this, Oh my gosh, Quad, 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:15.479 what are you doing to me? I feel like when 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:22.000 it comes to this genre of reality TV, I am 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.520 somebody who takes this genre very seriously. I am here 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:29.960 for anybody who needs me. Even if I don't know you, 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.159 I'll reach Child like, Hey, I'm seeing some things. 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.080 Are you gonna care? You good? 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:39.440 You're somebody who I have always loved and I know 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.200 the real Quad not saying that you don't tee me, 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:42.839 ain'tan real you. 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:43.880 It's all you. 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.320 But we only get to see forty two minutes of 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.640 a show, and we're on an ensemble show. 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:50.520 We gotta split it up. 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:51.599 You gotta split it up, honey. 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.360 Yeah. With the coins in the pocket, Child and the 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:55.080 piece of the pah. 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:57.280 But you're one of my. 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:03.040 Babies, and you and I have a close relationship because 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.840 of the fact that we do see each other. You're 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.200 champion for me. You have held me down some tough 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.480 times too, bitch. So this this goes both ways. I've 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:16.800 been going through a lot personally. You have been there 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:20.000 for me. Listen. I love this show and the cast 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:23.359 because heavenly has been there for me personally, Jackie Toya 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:29.159 Eugene on some medical stuff with the family members I love. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.960 I love this genre and a ver protective of the 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.640 people in this genre, especially the black people in this genre. 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:39.200 If I'm being very transparently, I am sort of like 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.159 this Papa Bear. So listen, we're gonna We're gonna have 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:47.159 a good conversation because I don't think the world really 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:47.960 understands you. 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.080 I'll figure cast sometimes understands you. 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.560 People don't understand me sometimes, you know. 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.320 And and here's the deal, they don't get a full 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:02.520 understanding because the full qual it's not before them. 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:02.320 You know. 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.840 And I say that meaning like we just talked about Hell, 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.640 we had what seven eight women and then we have 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.720 what about forty five minutes, and so you're having to 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:15.960 try to capture a piece of everyone. But I truly 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:20.200 wish people knew how loving I am. I think sometimes 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:24.640 that's kind of skirted over, you know, in the show, 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.280 and how supportive I am and how much I care. 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:31.760 I don't think sometimes that that is highlighted enough. 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.520 What I want to highlight before we get into the 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.360 season is the fact that but I am glad. 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.400 Now let me say this, Baby, I am glad that 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.800 miss Married to Medicine is getting her just due. Because 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:48.760 when we came into the market, you know, franchises were 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.640 already established. You know, we are a single standalone show, 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.720 and you know, we had to just kind of clow 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:59.800 our way through. And I think that, you know, ten 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.200 years later, now we're finally saying, hold on, wait a minute. 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:06.000 Ago all of these shows are great, but that one over. 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:10.360 There, wait a minute, that's the one to watch. 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:15.920 And so I'm really happy to be a part of it. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:17.640 I'm really happy to be a part of you. 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:18.280 You should be. 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:24.640 You should be, especially because you are a black girl 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:26.920 from Memphis, Tennessee. 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:27.760 Baby in town. 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.920 Okay, did you know. 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:37.240 That stardom was a part of your destiny when you 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:38.000 was growing up? 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.200 Because Baby, you have the eye and the t. 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.959 You really did and you're fine, thank you. 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:45.960 I guess. 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:56.400 It's real. You know, some of my camera gots gonna 0:08:56.400 --> 0:09:06.439 be bl so it's all allegedly it is. Okay, No, 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:08.960 did you know you were a star? 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.920 You know what, I've always been a person that's been 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:16.800 full of life, full of color, full of energy, fun. 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:18.760 It's just what I like to do. 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.240 I like to have fun and I like to be 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:24.200 the reason that someone is enjoying themselves. So that's kind 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:28.880 of who I've been all my life. And to be 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.080 a star, I think, you know, as a kid, that 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:32.880 was not something I didn't go like, oh, you know, 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.000 one day I want to be on television and I 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:36.600 want to be That just wasn't my thing. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:37.640 Honestly. 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.040 I grew up thinking that I was going to become 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.720 a pediatrician. I was going to be married at twenty 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:48.000 six years old with two children and a husband, and. 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:51.319 That was the furtherest. 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.360 From the truth. You know, that wasn't what God had 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:56.079 in store for me. But I do remember one day 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:57.280 I was in Nashville. 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.240 At this time, I went to Tennessee State and graduate 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:03.760 graduate people, can you have. 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:05.160 To verify when right? 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:10.079 You know what I mean I graduate from the Tennessee State. 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:14.679 She's agreed hood, yes, yes she is. 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.319 Indeed, I ain't never sweats. 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.720 But I do remember where I met this woman and 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.400 she was like, you would did not know this woman 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:27.960 at all, And she said me and I can I 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:31.200 talk to you? And I'm like, okay, sure, And she said, 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:35.800 you would do very well in healthcare and in Hollywood. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:36.920 And I just knew. 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.280 I said, this lady don't know. She doesn't know what 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.520 the hell she's talking about. She's talking about Hollywood, baby 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.320 girl child, I am a biology premier major down to 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:45.400 the Tennessee State University. 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:46.400 What are you talking about? 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.480 Like, clearly you don't know what you're talking about, talking 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:50.280 about Hollywood? 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:52.760 Little did I did? 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.839 I know what she said will absolutely be the path 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.720 of my life. I did well in medical device, you know, 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:02.360 jumped off the porch and got into that. 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.640 I did an h CAR preback program at Maharry. 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:10.400 I did also a Johnston and Johnson and MacNeil internship, 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:12.200 and I think the drug at the time was concerned 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:13.480 it was for kids with ADHD. 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:15.120 Thoroughly enjoyed it. 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:19.400 It was an opportunity for me to mesh my biology 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:23.840 degree with a mind in chemistry along with the natural 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:25.840 neck that I have for people, you know what I mean. 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:27.839 And so I was like, this is great, this is 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.040 what I want to do. And it opened my eyes 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:34.000 up to the fill medical devices. I started like with 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.720 a former intern and was like, oh there's more, and 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:41.080 sold capital equipment and I actually trained doctors in the 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.560 er on certain devices. 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:45.240 And I did very well there. 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:49.319 And then, of course we know, years came fast forward, 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:53.520 and then I got the opportunity to audition promire to medicine, 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:55.559 and ten years later here we are. 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:57.120 Was she a profit? 0:11:57.880 --> 0:11:58.559 Baby? Sout? 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:06.959 She had now because I happily said, all my life, 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:09.840 the life that she and I do that at the 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:15.800 time when married to Medicine was conceptualized, she said that. 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.160 You were living with Mariah. 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:21.960 I've never lived with Maria. 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:23.160 She said, you were a roommate. 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:25.199 Oh, baby, no, how about that? 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:35.680 Like his company may knock, that. 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.560 Was Mariah Jed, I. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:39.520 Was not Christy. 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:43.400 Christy is kind of aloof at times, you know, that 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.200 was not me. But no, Heavily has. 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:50.320 Then again reported something loud and wrong. Loud, strong and wrong. No, 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:51.080 not at all. 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.880 So Maria and I had never been roommates. She was 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.480 a very dear friend of mine. In fact, I had 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.680 come to know her because I used to date her cousin. 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:06.400 We were in a very very very strong relationship, very. 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:15.079 Heavily rooted relationship, and when I met their family, I 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:15.920 fell in love with him. 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.319 I really did. I was like, oh, my god, you. 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.000 Know, Mariah is super fun, you know what I mean, Like, oh, 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.440 she's my tight, you know what I mean. Like we 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.160 just immediately kind of just clicked, you know what I mean. 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:31.520 And I really respected the fact that they were, you know, 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:36.000 educated women, and they were wise, and I was like, 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:37.880 you know what, I like that, you know what I mean. 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:42.040 And so that's how Mariah and I have come to 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.400 had come to know each other at that time, and 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:48.280 then our friendship just it just it just snowballed, you know, 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.400 and before you know, we we got each other so well, 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.680 you know, whereas I could say something and She'll finish 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.160 it just like that, or she could say something and 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.439 I'll finish it just like that, and. 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:05.400 You know, in a set of dwarms maybe you know 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:05.880 what I mean. 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.000 And it was and it was never rehearsed, It was 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:10.040 never rehearsed. 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.719 It was just us being us. 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.120 That was us. What people don't know that was us on. 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.760 The daily face like we wake up with it, you 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.040 know what I mean, we woke up with it and 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.400 just just just would have such a great time together, 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.800 you know, and you know our family's meshed. 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.920 It was just it just it was just like family. 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:31.400 You know. 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.320 It was really that their friendship was just like a 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:35.800 family based friendship. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:37.760 You know. But I used to date her cousin. 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:39.680 Do you miss your friendship with her? 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:48.280 You know, the fun, the fun, the phone we used 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:52.920 to have was just it just was a good time. 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.080 I'm a good time type of girl, so it just 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.400 spoke to me and I enjoyed it. 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:00.640 I enjoyed it. 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:01.720 When you. 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:09.320 Experienced what happened to you this season American Medicine, it 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.000 appeared that the girls were icing you out. 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.640 They didn't want you there anymore. And we'll get into 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:18.440 that as well. 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:25.480 But in that moment, did you feel like, huh is 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:26.680 this what Mariah felt like? 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:36.640 I felt like, I see now, mm hmm. 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:43.840 Is that when. 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.640 Because Mariah's a star is okay? 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:51.600 Now, let me tell you something about ms Kawahart. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.600 I don't believe in giving you nothing, but I also 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.880 don't believe in taking anything away from. 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:04.480 So I'm not I don't give you anything. I just 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:05.680 can't find it in me. 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:07.560 I just can't find it in me. 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:09.000 I can't find it in me. 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.920 Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely. 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:18.080 So when you when you are and I know this 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.960 creating shows and casting people, there's there's women in mind shows, 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.480 I'll be like, oh baby, that's a star. 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:25.360 Yes, you know. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:32.520 Have you experienced what Mariah said on my podcast and 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:36.440 I'm paraphrasing course, which is when you know your worth 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:42.640 and you remind people of your worth, sometimes not in 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:47.160 the best way, but when you know your worth and 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.400 other people may know your worth. 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:51.440 But they don't want you to know it. 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.280 They don't want you to know it, and you refuse 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:59.760 to be quiet about it. Do you sometimes feel like 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:05.159 that that can create a situation to where you're not 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:06.680 able to grow. 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:07.880 And when you're not. 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.520 Able to grow because you know you're worth, sometimes you're 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.640 being pushed out. 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.560 I think it's important for everyone to always know their worth, 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:19.480 you know. I kind of grew up in a family 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:24.119 where my family would just infuse you know, having a 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.720 high self esteem, knowing who you are, to ask a 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.960 lot of questions, to not just let a person tell 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:31.719 you any and everything and you just go with it 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.439 to be your own person, to be a visionary, to 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.159 be a thinker. So that's the kind of household that 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:42.200 I grew up in. So for me, it would be abnormal, 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.400 right if I did not know my worth. 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:49.920 It would truly to me be foreign, you know. And so. 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:56.840 With that being said, I think sometimes people feel like 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:01.960 you're better in that position though I know, you know, 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.040 let's just talk corporate America for a second. 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:06.879 You could be amazed. 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:08.960 You should you should probably be on the executive level, 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:14.679 right But if the person who you are working for 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.440 sees you better and kind of a. 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:19.480 Junior role, right. 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:23.840 Then, because because you it behooves them to have you 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:28.359 in that junior role, right then it might be difficult 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:32.320 for them to elevate you to the executive role because 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:34.000 then who are they going to get to play or 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:35.960 who are they going to get to be in this 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:39.080 junior role that they need and it's working for them, 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:42.119 they you know, it makes things a lot easier for 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:43.320 you to be in a junior role. 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.879 It makes things of you know, money is being made, 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.000 more money is being made for them if you're in 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:48.760 a junior role. 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:52.439 You know what I mean, and it just it's unfortunate. 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:53.760 And we see that all the time. We see in 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:57.760 corporate America people are always looked over for promotions. It's like, listen, 0:18:57.840 --> 0:18:59.399 this is what I offered the company. I made the 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.119 company this amount of money. You know this year, you know, 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.400 this is what I brought this, you know, this huge 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:07.000 book of business. You know, I brought this account and 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:09.200 this account and they closed on that account and this. 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:10.000 Is how much they made. 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.760 And I, you know, was waiting for that promotion, and 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:18.240 I was looked over. And it happens every day in 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:24.320 corporate America because that's where I come from. So I 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:29.040 will always encourage people to know their worth and know 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:30.160 what you bring to the tape. 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:33.639 When you were going through what you were going through, 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:36.280 and you saw Mariah. 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:36.879 Go through what she went through. 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:41.439 Obviously she created the show, right, she still gets a 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.160 constant by credit to this day. 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.760 You saw some things that happened. 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:51.160 Behind the scenes, right, that is obviously at your discretion. 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.120 But when you look at your. 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:57.919 Experience these past couple of months taping this season American Medicine, 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.400 and you felt like, hmm, I now see what she. 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:03.280 Was talking about. Do you feel like. 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:09.040 You were a part of that ecosystem that pushed Maria 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:09.840 out of her own show. 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.840 Well, I would never want to push anyone anywhere, you know, 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:14.960 but to greatness? 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:15.640 Right. 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:23.800 I think sometimes we have to do a self reflection, 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:31.800 you know. I just could remember one time Mariah saying, 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:36.760 y'all not married to medicine. Y'all married to Mariah. 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:41.879 And that was hertful. That was hertful. 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.399 And I'm your friend and I got your back, and 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:49.240 we're gonna go to the long ways. That was my 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:53.840 heart posture, and that's what my mentality was at that time. 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:55.960 And so to hear. 0:20:55.800 --> 0:21:00.240 Her say things like that, it was more like, wait 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.560 a minute, now, we're doing this together. 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:06.360 What do you mean when you say that? 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:09.920 And how am I supposed to feel when you say 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:10.680 things like that? 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:19.520 You were arguably the breakout star American medicine. 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:21.880 Oh, child, child, don't baby, don't say that. 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:28.439 Out that right there alone, that is so loaded, that 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:32.840 is automatically walking down like that's like putting on a 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:39.280 vest with like ten thousand targets on you, like bullseyes, 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:42.119 and you just ready to people are just ready or 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:42.600 done you now? 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:43.720 No? 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:47.320 Is that Let's have a conversation happen. And this is 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:49.160 coming from the King of reality television. 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:49.840 Let's happen. 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:55.800 Every single ensemble show has a breakout star. Every single 0:21:56.600 --> 0:22:02.960 reality show has a breakout stark. Okay, I want everyone 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:04.880 to know that, because we're gonna have a real conversation. 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:15.840 Desney Child had Beyonce, Yes, the Jacksons have Michael Chicago 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:17.600 Bulls had Michael Jordan's. 0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:19.360 Let's talk about it. 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:25.840 I don't think there's anything wrong with giving someone their 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:30.159 props in terms of saying you the breakop, bitch, and 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:35.360 guess what good for you. Let's let's all support each 0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:38.480 other because at the same time, there will be no 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:41.879 Beyonce without Desney Child, there will be no Michael Jackson 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:44.800 Malthael Jackson's, and there will be no Michael Jordans well 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:48.320 Scottie Pippen. So no one can't do it on their own. 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:51.640 And I'm saying this loving the show, being a fan 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:53.960 of it, and but I'm real. 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:56.600 You were arguably the. 0:22:56.600 --> 0:23:03.080 Breakout star of Mariti Medicine, and instantly, this brownskin black 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:08.320 girl from Memphis, Tennessee, who was in pre biology, pre 0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:12.879 mad all those things right, never desired to be in 0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:16.520 front of the camera. Wasn't thinking about it. Your best 0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:19.400 friend created this show, bitch, I'm gonna put you on. 0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:20.800 Okay, girl, let's do it. 0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:23.120 And I was, And you know, my. 0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:27.640 Thought process with that at the time was that we 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:28.440 was gonna ride it. 0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:31.600 All the way, like Laverne and Shirley, maybe like Laverne. 0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:33.680 And Shirley get into it a fall face first. We 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:38.840 were going to go the entire way. And my ideology 0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:41.879 of thinking was there will be some doors that she 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:58.800 would open, and I will walk through them with her. 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:02.440 Why did it still get your emotion though after all 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:03.440 these years when you. 0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:09.720 And there would be some doors that I would walk 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:12.240 through that, I'd be like, baby, come on, baby, I 0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:13.880 had two thirty Baby, I got this door over here 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:14.359 is open. 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:18.880 Let's go, girl, put your shoes on. We gotta get there. 0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:21.600 And that's what I was always thinking. 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:26.520 I thought that that would be our whole entire existence 0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:28.040 in television. 0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:30.600 I truly believed it. 0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:34.440 I believed it would everything in me. You couldn't have 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:38.119 told me anything different. That's how much I wanted to 0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:45.640 share this experience with her. I did, and then things shifted. 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:49.920 Things shifted. It's kind of like, you know, that whole 0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:53.960 thing you know, arguably the breakout star. Andy Cohen said, 0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:56.960 you know, I'm obsessed with her, and you know me 0:24:57.080 --> 0:25:00.359 at that time, I'm not knowing, you know, really standing 0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:03.280 how TV works and what truly did that mean to 0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:06.200 hear people say that, right, I'm not really understanding. 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:11.199 I'm like, Okay, I glad I made a good impression, 0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:12.280 you know what I mean. 0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.280 But it just was it stopped there for me, you know, 0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:18.919 because I didn't have the full concept of what was 0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:24.840 about to happen. But she did and other people did too, 0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:28.200 And I think at that very moment that's when things 0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.439 shifted in our relationship. 0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:34.600 Do you think Mariah was jealous of your success? 0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:40.720 I think she felt like this is her baby and 0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.320 she deserved to be in that position. How dare they 0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:47.600 say that about someone else, and especially at being. 0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:55.239 Quip you being labeled to break our star. You're the 0:25:55.280 --> 0:26:01.760 first person I've ever said that too, that didn't say, 0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:04.760 of course, I was bitch, because a lot of women 0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:06.960 who are the breakout star. I said it to me 0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:09.760 E Leaks, for example, She's like a bitch, duh, right, Like, 0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:12.920 of course was good. When I say that to some girls, 0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:16.239 they're like, yeah, bitch, duh. I know that you're the 0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.879 first person I've ever spoken to that when I said 0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:24.000 you were the breakout star, you got uncomfortable, as if 0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:29.639 you are suffering through PTSD from what that label means 0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:33.200 to you, because you I don't want put words in 0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:35.600 your mouth, but when I'm gathering from your energy is 0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:41.280 being called the breakout star makes you uncomfortable because you 0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:45.000 probably were never celebrated. Hearing that being called the breakout 0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:50.639 star apparently has brought you turmoil, losing your best friend, 0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:58.399 possible jealousy, possible envy. Why am I on the money 0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:00.399 with that one? You don't You don't seem to like 0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:01.680 receive that. 0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:11.400 You're on the right track. It's a lot to carry. 0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:15.080 There are certain things that are expected of you that 0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:19.239 is not expected of others. There are certain things that 0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:22.560 certain people can completely get away with, and you just cannot. 0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:29.200 Everything you do is held to a higher standard. 0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:33.879 You are not given the same grace. 0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:41.720 You are expected to carry yourself in a certain way. Uh, 0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:47.280 And you are under heavy scrutiny with that title. 0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:51.200 Was that title weaponized? 0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:56.080 Of course, nothing that I just said was good about. 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.320 Nothing that I said it was good about it, at 0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:05.439 least from my experience. You know, maybe Nini had a 0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:07.720 different type of experience, and some others may have had 0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:11.080 a different type of experience, but for me, it has 0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:12.800 completely just made me. 0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:18.679 It's been painful at times for me. 0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.360 What we saw throughout the course of the season was 0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:29.080 you becoming this star. 0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.280 And this is somebody who did season one of Atlanta 0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:35.000 Housewives and I told Nini to her face, bit, you're 0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:38.000 a star before we wrapped production. This is two thousand 0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:39.600 and eight, before the show of me air, I said, 0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.080 you're a star and you're going to be major. I 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:45.440 did Season one of Jersey Housewives. I told Teresa judaies, bitch, 0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:47.960 you put that table. After she did that, I said, 0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.120 you're a star. You're gonna be the biggest star on 0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:53.720 this show. I know a star when I see one, 0:28:54.560 --> 0:29:00.160 and when it comes to you. We saw that that 0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:04.880 you've had Sister Circle. You were signed by the biggest 0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:08.880 agency in the world, one of the biggest agencies, CAAA. 0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:14.120 You've had so many opportunities that were given to you, 0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:18.400 similarly to a lead singer of a female girl group 0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:22.400 who starts to experience things outside of the collective, Right, 0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:29.200 did you get a big hit though? When you started 0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:33.280 to receive these compliments because one thing I have seen, 0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:34.640 I have seen. 0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.400 Yeah, women say I'm gonna start of the show, bitch, 0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:41.080 this is my motherfucking show. Ho I'll get them when I. 0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:43.680 Get there, y'all. Ain't on me, honey, please, She'll come 0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:47.880 when she comes. Heavenly has alluded to some of that 0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:51.000 happening with you, that you felt like you were better 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:51.840 than these girls. 0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:54.040 Is that the case? 0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:57.800 Did I ever say that I was better than anyone verbally? 0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:00.800 I've never said that I'm better than anyone in fact. 0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:05.160 In fact, I came in this as the complete underdog 0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.440 of the. 0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:11.040 Entire show, you know, and that also. 0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:18.400 Lended to, you know, the thought process of what people 0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:23.720 perceived me to be right I had. I could go 0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.240 back to episode season one. I remember my father was 0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:31.000 still living at the time, and he questioned mem Mariah's 0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.480 friendship and I was upset by it. 0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.440 I'm like, how dare you question her friendship? What do 0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:35.840 you mean? 0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:39.080 He said, are you sure that she's your friend? And 0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:41.000 I said, of course she is. What's going on with you? 0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:43.400 You know her? You know what's going on. 0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:46.760 And he said, you need to go back and watch 0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:50.320 that episode. You need to go back and watch and 0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:56.360 pay attention to the season, and I do remember there 0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.200 was something that stuck out to me and it kind 0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:04.360 of played me like was low, like I was nothing 0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:08.920 in a sense, like I was this charity case. I 0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:13.920 remember the words was like, oh, you know, she just 0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.800 don't know, she doesn't know how to be a doctor's wife, 0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:19.440 you know, like she just has to you know, we 0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:22.040 need to mold her. And you know, along those lines 0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.280 as if there was no I had no couth and 0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.720 I was not polished, and I was, you know, not 0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:31.479 well spoken, and that's my vernacular, has always been my vernacular. 0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:34.480 I'll tell you why. I'm from Memphis, right. 0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.240 I don't know if you've ever been down there, but 0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.720 and I went to Tennessee State University, and I remember 0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.720 people would make fun of us, you know, like, oh, 0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.520 you know girls from Memphis, and y'all talk like her 0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:51.120 their street BurrH, you know, and I'm like, I didn't 0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:55.600 like it. I didn't like it one bit. And I said, 0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.640 at that very moment, I think I was It could 0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:00.400 have been during the summer and I was went through 0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:02.720 orientation or something, and that just was kind of like 0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.080 the running thing, you know, and I was like, you're 0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:06.560 not gonna view Memphis like that. 0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:07.760 I didn't like it. 0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:11.080 And from that moment when I got into my dorm 0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:13.920 room and the young ladies that came in with me 0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:16.280 from Memphis, I was like, listen, we're. 0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.720 Hanging out anyway. You know, we're on the fifth floor. 0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:20.320 I stayed on the sixth at that time, and we 0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:22.760 would go downstairs. I had a couple of friends from Memphis. 0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:25.080 Was a gang of us that would hang out, and 0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.960 I said, we spent a lot of time watching me 0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:29.720 see the Cedars world and all of this. 0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:32.240 Let's get the dictionary out. 0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:38.200 Let's read this dictionary from cover to cover, understanding the 0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:42.160 contexts properly, how to say the word, and let's show 0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:47.920 a different face to Memphis. We started strong. Of course, 0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.520 you know, through the years or whatever, some of the 0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:53.240 women fell out, some of the girls fell out, but 0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:56.479 I stuck with it, and for me, it meant something. 0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:03.520 I didn't want people to look at my city like that, 0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:08.560 and I didn't want to be viewed like that. Right, 0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:12.920 So when I heard things like she doesn't know how 0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:15.680 to be a doctor's wife, and so forth and so on, 0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:19.120 and saying that to the other girls, knowing that she 0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:20.360 was my best friend. 0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:23.640 These girls didn't know me, you know, like at that time, 0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:24.040 it was. 0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:26.080 They heavily had not come on board, just came on 0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:29.000 board the second season. But the others didn't know me 0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:31.880 from Adam's House Cat or a whole in a while, right, 0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:36.640 But they knew her, and they knew how close we were. 0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.200 And for her to say something like that, or for 0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:41.960 them to hear her say something like that, it kind 0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.840 of almost put me kind. 0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:50.920 Of here beneath them, Yes, and to rise above that, 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:56.200 because look, I've had situations where I had to boss 0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:58.440 up some time and say, no, I am the king 0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.160 of reality, teav When you're talking about that, I am 0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:04.160 that boy. Please we all go through that, and I 0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:06.560 want to. I want to have an honest conversation because 0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:12.680 I think it helps people understand things. Would you say 0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:14.399 things like that the people I am a star bede 0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:15.480 what you're talking about, I. 0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:18.640 Used to have on my page, by the way, married 0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.920 to Medicine or star of Married to Medicine, literally like 0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:23.600 it was on my Instagram. 0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.520 Baby scrub Scrub Scrub is not there anymore, you know. 0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:30.080 And I made that determination at decision some time ago. 0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:33.959 And for me to say that I was a star 0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.319 married to medicine, a star of the star of married 0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:38.080 to medicine didn't mean that others were not. 0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:39.160 It did not. 0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:41.920 I'm not taking anything away from you all. I'm just 0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:43.200 saying what I am. 0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:44.200 You know what I mean. 0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.759 And if you say heavily says all the time, she's 0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.360 the smartest person in the room, hally doesn't take my 0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:50.200 intellect away. 0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:53.000 It doesn't. I don't feel that. 0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:56.879 I don't feel that her saying that she's saying that 0:34:56.920 --> 0:34:59.399 she's the smartest person in the room takes anything away 0:34:59.400 --> 0:34:59.719 from me. 0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:05.840 Is she smart? It she is doesn't mean that I'm done. 0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:06.439 So for you. 0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:10.920 What I'm gathering to is, because you felt like you 0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:14.080 were being pushed down, you had to work to build 0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:14.640 yourself up. 0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.439 Started from the bottom. Started from the bottom, and Drake said, 0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:20.160 started from the bottom. Now I'm here, started from the bottom. 0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:23.200 And it was a clawing to the top with that, 0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:27.439 because well, we don't know it, but if our best 0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:30.160 friends say this the hell that's what it's what it is, 0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:36.680 then we believe that, and that's how we're gonna view her. 0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:38.560 Until I had to. 0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:45.120 Cognitively break out of that and show people who I 0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:50.879 really am. You know, I'm always been a very quick 0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:54.239 witted person, very very very sharp with my tongue in 0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:58.680 terms of knowing how to speak, that had never had 0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:02.520 a problem with public speaking in my life ever, ever, 0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:07.600 and so and always been a very domestic person, you know, 0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:13.960 very cleanly person, a person who is you know, cultured. 0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:16.799 But when I go back to. 0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:22.680 Season one, that's not how a person would perceive me 0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:24.160 at all. 0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:25.239 Now. 0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:29.920 I do remember being at event or something that they 0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:35.799 were throwing, and I remember Carrie and Toya was kind 0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:38.680 of coming at me about, you know, how could I 0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:42.200 marry someone that would call off the wedding? And you know, 0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:44.520 I went through that too, And then there was some 0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.880 things that was transpiring earlier on. 0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:50.680 Prior to the wedding. 0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:54.120 And you know, and I just remember feeling that and 0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:57.520 I didn't I didn't understand that right because it was 0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:00.600 just like a couple of days prior work. We were 0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:03.640 all having lunch and having a good time. So I 0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:09.560 really didn't understand. Now the red dot is on and 0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:12.239 you all are coming to me like this, You're confronting me, 0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:13.799 You're waiting for me to walk through the door. I 0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:17.239 come through the door with gifts in toe and just 0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:19.800 to have a good time, and I'm not knowing, Oh 0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.680 she's a targeting So when you see Quad hit the door, 0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:24.759 y'all go at her and they began to question me 0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:27.080 about so it was carrying, I think toy at the time, 0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:31.360 and I just remember not understanding TV and I was 0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:31.879 just like. 0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:34.680 Don't monk, don't God damn line. 0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:35.279 You know what I mean? 0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:38.560 Like I didn't. I didn't get it. I didn't get it. 0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:42.560 And I was very raw at that time. 0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:49.239 Did you appearing on Sister Circle forever change the dynamic 0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:52.239 of your relationship with the cast? You know? 0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:58.320 That's interesting? And in the episode that we've just seen 0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:03.120 that just aired, I think it was Jackie who said, 0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:05.880 you know, I can remember when when she was on 0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:10.480 Sister Circle, and you know what, does she say something 0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:13.760 about me being on Sister Circle or with my Sister 0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:19.080 Circle friends. I'm paraphrased because I can't remember, but I 0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:22.040 remember that it was Jackie who was going back and 0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.719 oh she said maybe she was she felt hurt or 0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.880 something or they felt hurt or something when I was 0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:31.440 a part of Sister Circle, when Sister Circle was you know, 0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:37.560 on air, and I'm just looking at that like, how 0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:42.799 sold Jackie, Because you guys are my group of a 0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:45.359 group of friends of mine. These women are a group 0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:49.560 of friends of mine. Why can't I not have two, three, four, 0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:50.719 or five six groups of. 0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:53.840 Friends at that time in my life. 0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:57.759 The girls that were a part of Sister Circle, they 0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:05.319 were more tender and soft and understanding and showed a 0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:08.360 lots more of compassion for what I was going through. 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:12.200 During that time, my marriage had began to unravel. Things 0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:17.400 were not good at home, and some of the girls 0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:20.359 knew what was going what I was going through, they 0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:24.160 didn't know to what magnitude. Of course, at that time, 0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:31.359 I'm emotionally trying to gather myself. I'm mentally trying to 0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:34.640 make the right decision for my happiness and for my future. 0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:38.200 But I was still loved my husband at the time. 0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:42.719 And so there were things that had transpired that if 0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:46.759 I would have verbally said them, I was afraid that 0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:50.960 it would harm him in his career, and it did 0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:54.760 not present itself at that time to be a safe space. 0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:57.160 Both shows were different. 0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:03.160 Sister Circle was about, you know, empowering, encouraging, motivating, educating, 0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:06.040 and we do see some of that also on marriage 0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:10.920 to medicine. But it's all about conflict resolve. Conflict resolve, 0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:17.920 and when you are feeling like it's not a safe 0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:22.840 space to say certain things that you refrain from saying, 0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:28.960 you just refrain from saying them. And that's kind of 0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:35.320 how that shook out. I did not feel when Jackie 0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.840 went through what she went through with Curtis. I felt 0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:41.600 like everyone rallied around her, supported her. When Jackie said 0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:43.399 that she was done talking about it, it was done, 0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:46.759 it was over, was through, and I even respected that. 0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:51.359 Right when Cesa and Simone we're going through what they 0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:54.360 were going through, we saw that at one of the reunions, 0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:56.840 we all rallied around them, right. 0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:01.600 But I wasn't extended that. 0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:09.680 I wasn't extended that type of compassion and empathy and care. 0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:13.920 I had to go and get that from my girls 0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:18.840 at Sister Circle. Did not mean that I did not 0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:22.799 like my friends, you know, within the Married to Medicine group. 0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:24.920 Didn't mean that I did not like them or against 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:25.640 them or anything. 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:28.640 I had to go where I felt like I was 0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:30.080 most supported. 0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:34.640 And it's not saying that some of the girls on 0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:39.520 Marria to Medicine didn't have an inkling of understanding as 0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:40.640 to what I was going through. 0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:43.120 I think there was a time where. 0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:47.160 Andy Cohen and I think it was one season where 0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:50.200 Gregory and I. 0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:56.520 Had sat on the stage of and with Andy Cohen. 0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:59.400 It was doing the reunion, and remember there were a 0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:01.359 group of women and who came out. I think it 0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:04.840 was probably Toya and Mariah at the time, and maybe Simone. 0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:07.319 And I'm not sure if Simone. 0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:08.839 Said this or not or agreed with this or not, 0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:12.080 but because there was so many moving pieces, but I 0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:17.080 do remember where Andy Cohen had said, well, you know 0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:19.759 the next segments like, well, what do you guys think 0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:22.240 about what you guys heard behind stage? 0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:23.840 You know that he said that he hit. 0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:30.440 Her, And I just remember, you know, the voices saying 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:32.439 he didn't say he said he hit her. 0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:34.520 That's not what he said. You can't say he hit her. 0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:35.160 He's a doctor. 0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:37.439 You can't say that. What do you say? He didn't 0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:37.839 say that? 0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:42.719 And he literally had to get into a banter with 0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:45.200 them and said, I'm telling you he said it. 0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:49.680 He said it in front of me, and I was just. 0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:55.600 Like, WHOA, these girls hate me so much that they 0:42:55.680 --> 0:43:01.080 can't even support me, and they're not even believing what 0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:07.960 is being said, and I'm telling them that it happened, 0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:12.600 and I'm telling them that it was said, and it 0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:17.000 takes Andy Cohn to put a stamp on it. They 0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:18.719 gave me that much that they couldn't even hear it 0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.200 from me because Andy Cohen and I was both saying no, 0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:25.480 he said it, and they hated it appeared to me 0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:28.960 or I felt like they hated me so much that 0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:32.040 they couldn't even hear it from me. It was Andy 0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:35.799 Cohen who made it real for them, and that was difficult. 0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:36.799 That hurts. 0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:40.880 So you're in this environment where you don't feel supportive, 0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:43.279 you don't feel like it's a safe space for you 0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:46.160 to truly give one hundred percent of yourself to them, 0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:54.920 because they never provided the window of opportunities of opening like, no, 0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:56.560 come to us, We want to be here for you, 0:43:56.640 --> 0:44:00.160 the way you saw that with Simon and with the 0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:01.840 way you saw that with Jackie. 0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:06.960 When it comes to the medical community. Because you're not go. 0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.120 Ahad, I had to interrupt, But I do want to 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:10.520 add this before we move on. 0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:12.560 I don't want to lose my train of thought. 0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:17.040 And and and I don't know how there in the 0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:20.640 in the scene in the episode they flashed back to 0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:23.400 I think it was my book launch and I had 0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:24.360 an all white party. 0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:26.080 It was like a birthday slash book. 0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:30.680 Launch and all white party, and they flashed back to 0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.280 me saying, you know, I was going to give. 0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:34.800 Up on women. 0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:38.680 And then Sister Circle came into my life. I really 0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:40.279 felt that way. 0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:41.799 I had a lot going on. 0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:44.879 I had, you know, other friends, you know that are 0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:48.399 not on the show who just didn't understand. I had 0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:52.959 the pressures of what was going on with my relationships 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:57.320 with some of the girls within the Marriti Medicine group 0:44:57.360 --> 0:45:02.360 of friends. And then you know, there was Circle. But 0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:08.200 slightly after I gave the girls of Sister Circle their flowers, 0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:13.799 I turned to give my girls from Married to Medicine 0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:18.960 some love and to acknowledge them as well. And I 0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:22.960 looked around and looked around, and it was already understood. 0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.240 It's kind of like they had a perception. They couldn't 0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:28.640 even give me the time or the patience to get 0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:32.080 to them to say the things that I also wanted 0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:36.680 to say about them, which was also saluting some of them, 0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:39.839 which was also paying homage to some of them in 0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:42.400 highlighting who they were to me in my life, not 0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:45.120 all of them have been poor to me, maybe at 0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:45.760 different times. 0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:48.600 Or hell, they could say the same about me, you know, 0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:50.680 so they just didn't. 0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:53.120 It was kind of like it was already etched in 0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:57.480 their mind that, oh, she spoke about sister circle, so 0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:59.560 she's about to she she's about to upstage us and 0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:02.800 say something negative about us, or she's let's go before 0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:06.160 she says it. And I looked around the room desperately 0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:09.000 because I wanted them to hear how much I care 0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:13.839 for them too. By that time, Toya and I think 0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:15.200 it was some all they had left. 0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:16.359 I didn't. 0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:18.600 They never even got an opportunity to hear what I 0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:22.000 was about to say, because it was already. 0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:25.480 In their head, like. 0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:29.600 She's given them accolades, but she's not gonna give it 0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:32.919 to us. They didn't give me the time. They didn't 0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:36.319 give me the patience to even to even just wait 0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:39.960 one moment. You're up next. I know who you are. 0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:42.760 You all are to me. It ain't It hadn't always 0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:48.520 been all bad. It hadn't always been all bad. So 0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:50.640 I'm tapping in from the times when it was good. 0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:53.760 You guys are we've been We've had some great times together, 0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:58.280 and we have some deep rooted relationships, and you guys 0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:02.719 have helped me get through some other things. I see you, 0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:07.400 I see you. They didn't give me an opportunity to 0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:10.680 tell them, I see they left. 0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:12.280 So what what? What? 0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:13.160 So? 0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:13.720 What? 0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:18.200 What is it? Is it the fact that in the 0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:22.920 doctor's community, is it cliquish? Is it that if not 0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:27.920 a part of this very exclusive circle, whether you're you're 0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:32.040 in the group by proxy being married to one of us, Okay, 0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:37.520 if you're out of that club courtesy of divorce, Is 0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:39.960 it that we're always gonna ribe with the medical professionals? 0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:41.000 No, I don't think so. 0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:41.440 Okay. 0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:46.600 It's definitely not that the medical community is a tight 0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:50.920 knit community, you know, especially when we talk about, uh, 0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:55.040 the African American component of it. It's even smaller than 0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:59.560 the masses. Of course we are the minority. But it 0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:02.640 is not saying, oh, well, you know, because you're not 0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:05.560 a doctor or you're not affiliated with a medical community, 0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.040 then you know, I, as a doctor, I can't talk 0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:20.040 to you mm hmm. You're neurologists. Neurologists, you know, anesty geologists, 0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:21.640 nurse and aesthetists. 0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:22.200 I mean what. 0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:27.400 You know. 0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:33.120 It's definitely not that, it's not that listen, all of 0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:36.920 the girls of Mariti Medicine have outside friends. They have 0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:41.040 friends who are nowhere near the medical community. They have 0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:44.399 some friends who are not even you know, who don't 0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:47.440 even have to work. They've been very fortunate to have 0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:50.960 beautiful husbands, amazing husbands who will keep them together and 0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:54.000 keep them kept. And they ain't made at that either, 0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:58.799 you know, So you don't have to be. I don't 0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:01.759 want to give the perception into people that, you know, 0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:06.440 doctor Simone doesn't have friends who are not doctors or 0:49:06.480 --> 0:49:08.960 not in the medical community, or doctor Jackie doesn't have 0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:10.840 friends who are not in the medical community. 0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:13.640 And the same with the heavenly It's not true. 0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:19.600 You befriend people who you have commonalities with, who you 0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:23.880 connect with, and who you feel like, you know, I 0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:28.520 like this person. I want to have a long lasting 0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:29.800 relationship with this person. 0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:34.120 They're human. Their occupation is the occupation, you know. And 0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:35.239 that's another thing. 0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:38.640 I think one time I posted something about sometimes in 0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:42.400 our country people feel like, oh, you know, they're doctors, 0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:49.200 so they're perfect. No, the doctor is the title. Let's 0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:52.680 see what's the character of the person, the individual. 0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:56.719 Well, that's why we love it show so much. 0:49:56.760 --> 0:49:59.959 Because it shows the flawedness of just everyday people. 0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:00.279 Ball. 0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:03.239 You have been accused of not keeping in touch with 0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:06.520 your cast mates off season that when the shows wrapped, 0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:10.160 Quad is out allegedly hanging out in Africa trying to 0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:14.600 meet men, going to Kenya just to snag a husband. 0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:17.080 Can you I cannot just put you on pause for 0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:19.720 it's like like to go get my past. 0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:22.200 Boy? 0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:28.120 How many stamped me out of this pass by this Quad? 0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:38.000 Oh lord, honey calling her booty in the pass for honey. 0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:35.799 G globble entry. 0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:39.200 No, but wait a minute. Even before that, I just had. 0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:42.080 A pink parse okay, per man. 0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:47.040 But but I do He's so silly. 0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:51.399 I'm so over here, But I do want to say 0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:53.760 something just I was thinking of this as I was 0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:55.719 walking together the pass word okay. 0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:59.040 You know, people say, oh, well, she was like this was. 0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:01.080 When Sister Sir was on air and when she had 0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:03.719 Sisters Circle and Sister Circle. What I do want people 0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:08.600 to understand is I shared that platform with my friends 0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:13.160 of Mary to Medicine. I shared that platform with doctor Jackie, 0:51:13.640 --> 0:51:18.920 Doctor Heavenly, and Contessa. Doctor Heavenly, Doctor Jackie and Contessa 0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:21.799 could come on that show as much as they wanted to. 0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:24.719 We did a whole lot of cross pollination when it 0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:27.360 came down to filming both shows. 0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:31.600 It was great for everyone. So I when people say, oh, well, 0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:32.319 you know, she just. 0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:34.680 Cut them off, and you know, she thought she was 0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:38.200 all that and she didn't, you know, share anything. I 0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:42.440 shared my platform with them, you know, if they I 0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:44.480 think one time we had Jackie on the show and 0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:47.480 she talked about her fifty Shades of Pink shouts out 0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:48.480 to the fifty Shades. 0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:51.600 Of Pink, a charity, I mean foundation. 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.680 Another time we had Doctor Heavenly there and she was 0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:59.560 talking about doing a dental makeover and we had contested 0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:00.880 there talking about I think. 0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:02.640 Opening up a new practice or something. 0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:07.680 So I had always at the time shared that with 0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:11.080 him with the people who were my friend my friends 0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:15.040 with my friends at that time. Uh, doctor Simone and 0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:16.640 I were not on the same page, or else I 0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:17.320 would have shared. 0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:19.319 It with her too, you know, I don't see why not, 0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:20.319 you know. 0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:22.840 And if Toya and I had been on the same page, 0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:25.279 and if we were in a good place, I would 0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:28.200 have shared it with her too. It takes nothing away 0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:33.520 from me to see someone else win, nothing, nothing at all. 0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:38.279 So I just really want to make that abundantly clear 0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:41.520 to people, because there's always like there's married to medicine 0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:42.840 and then there's sister's circle. 0:52:45.160 --> 0:52:49.560 I am for who's for me? And if you're good 0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:51.319 to me, I'm even better to you. 0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:53.600 Are the Nigeria's good to you? 0:52:57.400 --> 0:52:57.600 Wait? 0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:00.520 Your thing? 0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:02.920 I don't know the people said that I was. 0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:05.640 I went down to Emily said you were a Kenya. 0:53:05.680 --> 0:53:06.360 You hang out with some of. 0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:10.520 Those housewives and these reality stars and you y'all go 0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:11.680 to Africa to meet men. 0:53:13.239 --> 0:53:16.040 Why would she say that? And she's saying Kenya, baby. 0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:17.560 I let me see if I can go through here 0:53:17.600 --> 0:53:19.240 and see if there's any page. 0:53:19.320 --> 0:53:22.040 What about Bama? 0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:24.800 Now say not all the part of Kenya that I've ever. 0:53:24.680 --> 0:53:27.400 Heard of was Nairobi and that was the hair Movese. 0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:38.560 So I don't have a step, but I do. 0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:39.960 I would love to go to Kenya. 0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:42.160 I don't have not have a step. 0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:45.520 In there at all. That says nothing about Kenya. 0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:49.040 I want to go, maybe heavily, and I should go. 0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:50.640 Why not? 0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:54.000 What? What what is she gonna do there? 0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:57.080 Well? She might want to say, she might want she 0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:58.880 may want to go into Safari. 0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:03.120 The girls night like the little see it the little. 0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:08.919 Draff alone neck giraffe or something. I don't know. 0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:14.920 I don't know what do you mean a giraffe? 0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:18.560 Wait? How long are the Nigerians in. 0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:22.760 The giraffes? 0:54:23.440 --> 0:54:23.800 Long? 0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:26.799 I don't know anything about a giraffe in Nigeria. I've 0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:29.000 never been to Nigeria actually. 0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:30.800 So what is this thing about you going to Africa 0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:32.360 with the housewives? 0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:35.279 First of all, the people just say whatever they want 0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:38.200 to say, and because they said loud, strong or wrong, 0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:41.520 and the people be like, oh no, I actually do 0:54:41.680 --> 0:54:44.960 for holiday, I do go to Ghana. I love Ghana, 0:54:45.360 --> 0:54:46.760 absolutely amazing place. 0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:48.359 But listen, I'm over there. 0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:52.160 I would like the second lady of the country, like 0:54:52.239 --> 0:54:53.520 the second lady of the come. 0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:56.520 That means, so they have the present and then they 0:54:56.560 --> 0:54:57.480 have the vice president. 0:54:57.520 --> 0:54:59.319 Well, they have the first lady and what they call 0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:03.000 over there's the second lady that is the vice president's wife. 0:55:03.000 --> 0:55:03.839 She's the second lady. 0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:06.440 And I was a bit confused, you know when I 0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:08.440 first happed here, because I was like, well, wait minute, 0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:09.520 could he have two wives? 0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:11.719 Does the president have two wives? 0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:14.080 He has a first and a second lady? I was like, baby, 0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:15.759 oh my god, but. 0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:21.680 That's not what it is, Okay, you know, so I'm 0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:24.759 good friends there, got great friends within the President's office there, 0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:27.680 and it's just amazing to me the things that come 0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:29.759 out of Healy's mouth. I'm like, I'm over there with 0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:33.920 you know, badass Boza. You know, Bosa is like you know, 0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:38.200 like she's one of the best amazing people you can 0:55:38.400 --> 0:55:42.640 ever meet, hands down, I mean a marketing genius. 0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:46.560 And I'm like, so happily, how do we get marketing genius? 0:55:47.840 --> 0:55:51.480 You know the second wife of the or the vice 0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:56.520 president's wife, and you know the deputy in the president's office. 0:55:56.640 --> 0:56:00.360 To she going to kiya and sleeping with me or 0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:01.200 try to find a man. 0:56:03.440 --> 0:56:08.800 That don't sound right, that's not true. 0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:11.840 You keep saying this about me. 0:56:15.560 --> 0:56:18.480 So there's no africay, no, okay. 0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:18.440 Not at all. 0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:21.040 And in terms of who I go, listen, I have 0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:22.960 friends everywhere. I really do. 0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:25.920 Yes, She's right by saying, oh she hangs with the housewives, 0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:26.239 I do. 0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:26.840 I do. 0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:28.920 There's some of those girls of some good, really good 0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:29.440 friends of mine. 0:56:29.719 --> 0:56:31.920 Drusidor or hit me up today and just sends so 0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:34.279 much love to me, Like sis, I love you so 0:56:34.440 --> 0:56:36.360 much and I want you to know that you know 0:56:36.480 --> 0:56:38.799 Portia has called me and was like, sins, this is 0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:40.080 this is gonna pass. 0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:42.080 But you know who you are. Don't lose who you are, 0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:44.920 you know, and just so much love. 0:56:45.120 --> 0:56:47.960 I have friends everywhere, but they're not the only people 0:56:48.000 --> 0:56:50.080 who have called me. I've had friends back from Memphis 0:56:50.160 --> 0:56:52.959 ten who've called me. Friends you know in Detroit who's 0:56:53.040 --> 0:56:55.640 called me? You know, friends are friends to me. I'm 0:56:55.680 --> 0:56:59.160 not clocking if are you on TV? Or you know 0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:00.200 who are you? 0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:02.879 That's not me? You know, I just love what I love. 0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:06.000 I enjoy the people who enjoy me, who bring lefter 0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:09.120 into my life and who bring brings happiness into my life. 0:57:09.480 --> 0:57:12.520 And you know who's not trying to judge me, you know? 0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:16.280 And so I I what's wrong? And Yandy is a 0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:19.280 very good friend. Fact, Yandy and I go to Guana. 0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:21.640 All the time. But you know it's like sometimes the 0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:24.320 kids are with us and man, DC's is with us. 0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:28.960 And you know what I meant, I don't understand. 0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:32.080 Why did she say those things? I'm like, hey, what's 0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:35.280 wrong with you? Why are you saying these things? And 0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:37.400 the shit you're saying is not even true? 0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:40.120 What's wrong? What is it? 0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:40.439 Hev? 0:57:41.640 --> 0:57:44.840 Because I don't get it. Am I not allowed to 0:57:44.880 --> 0:57:46.160 have other friends? 0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:50.080 That's what it seems like, because they made a lot 0:57:50.120 --> 0:57:53.360 of things that transpired this season. Is the fact that 0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:56.600 they're saying, when you guys stop filming, you don't keep 0:57:56.640 --> 0:57:58.320 in contact with any of the girls. 0:57:59.480 --> 0:58:01.880 That's not true. That's an untrue statement. 0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:10.120 When we are not filming, I am in contact with 0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:13.240 those who want to be in contact with me. I 0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:15.640 believe that a relationship is not one sided. 0:58:16.480 --> 0:58:20.480 It's reciprocal. And that's what I believe. But just because I. 0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:23.680 Don't hear from them, I'm not, you know, nailing them 0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:24.400 to the cross. 0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:26.320 I figure, you know. 0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:32.240 They're busy, they are creating new businesses. You know, they 0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:34.760 may be traveling themselves. It's an opportunity for them to 0:58:34.800 --> 0:58:36.920 spend some time with their family, you know. 0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:40.720 And so I don't really get Oh, well, she didn't 0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:44.040 call us. Did you call me? Did you call me? 0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:47.440 Did you one time even think to pick up the 0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:50.160 phone and call me? If you saw my Instagram, then hey, 0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:51.400 maybe that made you think of me. 0:58:51.400 --> 0:58:52.280 Why didn't you call me? 0:58:52.960 --> 0:58:55.360 Because so off season you keep in touch with who 0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:57.560 heavenly heavenly. 0:58:57.560 --> 0:59:01.120 Jackie, are you talking about now? In the past. Are 0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:02.320 we talking about, Yeah. 0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:04.080 In the past, because they made it seem like that's 0:59:04.120 --> 0:59:06.440 just not your mother that you like ever. 0:59:06.360 --> 0:59:08.200 In life for the past couple of years. 0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:11.520 No, that's not been true for the past couple of years. 0:59:12.840 --> 0:59:16.360 I could definitely say it's been a little distant this 0:59:16.440 --> 0:59:17.160 year for sure. 0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:20.720 But when we left New York, I didn't feel like. 0:59:22.280 --> 0:59:24.840 There was bad blood between any of us outside of, 0:59:24.920 --> 0:59:28.440 you know, the situation between Toy and I, But I 0:59:28.480 --> 0:59:32.080 didn't feel that, you know, Simone and I were just 0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:36.000 in a bad place. Simone and I needed to talk 0:59:36.000 --> 0:59:38.960 about some things and reactivate our friendship. 0:59:39.920 --> 0:59:40.120 You know. 0:59:41.080 --> 0:59:44.520 I definitely didn't feel like anything was different between Heavenly 0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:48.280 and I didn't feel like anything was different between Jackie 0:59:48.280 --> 0:59:52.600 and I. You know, I just didn't understand why are 0:59:52.600 --> 0:59:56.280 we making it such a big deal that Quad has 0:59:56.320 --> 0:59:59.640 not called us. It should be a reciprocal thing. Did 0:59:59.720 --> 1:00:01.200 you ever call and check in on me? 1:00:02.000 --> 1:00:04.880 Mhm? I need that too, you know. 1:00:05.680 --> 1:00:09.480 And it's just disheartening that I, again, here, I am 1:00:09.560 --> 1:00:11.840 being held to a standard that they don't even have 1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:12.920 to meet the requirement. 1:00:13.760 --> 1:00:14.120 Mm hmm. 1:00:16.280 --> 1:00:24.120 Before this season started, Carlos King exclusively reported. 1:00:29.280 --> 1:00:30.200 Let's get some work. 1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:33.880 You don't breaking downs the reality with the gig got 1:00:34.040 --> 1:00:36.360 you won't you want true tig. I want the reality 1:00:36.400 --> 1:00:40.400 with the King Child. If you want allegations and as 1:00:40.440 --> 1:00:42.880 subsection live, you know where to go. 1:00:43.240 --> 1:00:47.240 The AUTI aside. I was the first to confirm that phedra. 1:00:47.480 --> 1:00:52.240 Obviously I do want to add something else. I actually 1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:58.760 even had a conversation with Simon off off camera, you know. 1:00:58.880 --> 1:01:00.880 I said said, I I want to sit down with you. 1:01:00.960 --> 1:01:04.160 I want to talk to you and wet We met 1:01:04.160 --> 1:01:06.200 over at CNS, the one right here and you know, 1:01:06.400 --> 1:01:10.920 over in Sandy Springs, and I said, Simon, what have 1:01:11.000 --> 1:01:17.240 I done to you? Just tell me, I said, go 1:01:17.360 --> 1:01:22.720 back over the entire ten years. You don't have to 1:01:22.760 --> 1:01:24.960 speak hasty. You don't have to, you know, hurry up 1:01:25.000 --> 1:01:27.640 and vomit something up. I don't want that. I want 1:01:27.680 --> 1:01:30.200 the truth because if I've done something to you, I 1:01:30.240 --> 1:01:31.200 want to correct it. 1:01:32.640 --> 1:01:33.400 I want to correct that. 1:01:33.440 --> 1:01:37.400 And that was last year, I think, before we even 1:01:37.480 --> 1:01:43.040 went to the reunion, and she stopped for a moment 1:01:43.440 --> 1:01:44.720 and we were having a great deal. 1:01:44.640 --> 1:01:45.120 About a way. 1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:46.720 She had a couple of cottails. I had a couple 1:01:46.720 --> 1:01:48.960 of cottails. I think some Ostles was on the table too. 1:01:49.000 --> 1:01:50.800 We had a great time. It was like old times. 1:01:51.320 --> 1:01:56.240 And she literally said to me, you've not done anything 1:01:56.280 --> 1:02:02.600 to me. And I said, hold on, really think about it. Whatever, 1:02:02.960 --> 1:02:05.760 anything that you can think of it, tell me now. 1:02:06.440 --> 1:02:08.760 And she said, no, you've not done anything to me. 1:02:09.360 --> 1:02:12.440 She said, you know, I go against you because I 1:02:12.440 --> 1:02:13.200 don't want Toya to. 1:02:13.200 --> 1:02:17.720 Be mad at me. Hmmm, straight like that. 1:02:18.320 --> 1:02:19.600 See, that's the alliance. 1:02:19.680 --> 1:02:22.800 I'll be telling people about that happens on these shows 1:02:22.840 --> 1:02:24.920 that they want to nail me to the cross for. 1:02:25.200 --> 1:02:30.000 I tell people that oftentimes on reality shows ensembles. 1:02:30.480 --> 1:02:31.600 There's Allian system. 1:02:31.640 --> 1:02:35.320 Yeah, I'm friends with you because I do like you, 1:02:35.400 --> 1:02:39.360 but let's be clear, I need somebody to have my back, 1:02:39.840 --> 1:02:43.080 and as a courtesy I gotta have I gotta have 1:02:43.120 --> 1:02:43.600 their back. 1:02:44.040 --> 1:02:46.040 And the thing it. 1:02:46.040 --> 1:02:48.680 Threw me off a little bit because I was like, damn, really. 1:02:48.440 --> 1:02:50.640 You've been going it's hard and I've not done anything 1:02:50.720 --> 1:02:52.680 to you, and it's just because you want a piece Toya. 1:02:53.680 --> 1:02:54.960 And that threw me a little bit. 1:02:55.360 --> 1:02:57.880 But I was like, well, Quaid, you and tim Own 1:02:58.000 --> 1:03:05.480 haven't been close in a number of years, so is 1:03:05.560 --> 1:03:09.640 it hard for you to can you try to understand 1:03:09.880 --> 1:03:15.000 where she could possibly be coming from and why. While 1:03:15.000 --> 1:03:19.040 I didn't like it, I could understand where she was coming. 1:03:18.840 --> 1:03:25.360 From because you understand how this works. You understand how 1:03:25.360 --> 1:03:29.200 this works. So we're getting into this current season. Before 1:03:29.200 --> 1:03:33.280 we started filming, I did report that Phedra was in 1:03:33.360 --> 1:03:38.040 conversations to join Mary to Medicine. At the time, it 1:03:38.160 --> 1:03:43.640 was rumors that your ex husband and at the time 1:03:43.800 --> 1:03:50.080 his Beyonce were joining the show, and some Brobo executives 1:03:50.360 --> 1:03:56.120 did an interview I believe it was Deadline or how 1:03:56.400 --> 1:04:00.000 one of the trades, and this executive said, this up 1:04:00.120 --> 1:04:06.440 coming season Amerti Medicine, we are going to again paraphrasing, 1:04:06.520 --> 1:04:09.960 but pretty much, it's going to be a refresh. It's 1:04:10.000 --> 1:04:14.920 gonna some people aren't coming back, some new people are joining, 1:04:15.000 --> 1:04:18.160 and some familiar faces. It was like, this upcoming season, 1:04:18.240 --> 1:04:21.439 Maritive Medicine is about to knock your sock saw because 1:04:21.440 --> 1:04:23.720 we're throwing so many things at it. Because I've always 1:04:23.760 --> 1:04:24.120 said this. 1:04:24.120 --> 1:04:26.960 For years, no one listened to me until now. I've 1:04:27.000 --> 1:04:28.479 always said, Brav, I'm sorry. 1:04:28.520 --> 1:04:31.480 I've always said that Maritime Medicine is the best cham 1:04:31.560 --> 1:04:35.200 Brav of that y'all not watching it's been It's been 1:04:35.440 --> 1:04:42.160 consistently great. I have never seen an off season like, well, damn, y'all, 1:04:43.040 --> 1:04:45.440 it's always been great, ten years strong, and not a 1:04:45.440 --> 1:04:46.520 lot of shelves can say that. 1:04:46.600 --> 1:04:48.120 So kudos to you guys for that. 1:04:50.920 --> 1:04:57.440 Before you guys started filming, you wanted to renegotiate your contract, 1:04:58.720 --> 1:05:05.520 I said, on my life, but believe that anytime a 1:05:05.600 --> 1:05:10.480 star knows their worth, I'm an advocate for bitch, get 1:05:10.520 --> 1:05:14.720 what you deserved. I said, if I was in quas shoes, 1:05:15.880 --> 1:05:20.600 and I've been on this show for nine years, and 1:05:20.640 --> 1:05:26.880 you're bringing back my ex husband and his next Clearly 1:05:27.560 --> 1:05:30.840 you're only bringing them back because I'm around. It's the 1:05:30.880 --> 1:05:33.040 only way it makes sense. And that's why I like 1:05:33.080 --> 1:05:38.040 having these real conversations because as a producer, I even 1:05:38.160 --> 1:05:42.640 know what time it is. You're a smart, educated woman. 1:05:43.360 --> 1:05:45.720 You knew what time it was, and you felt like 1:05:46.200 --> 1:05:48.320 if I again I putting words in your mouth, but 1:05:48.360 --> 1:05:55.080 I'm assuming you felt like, huh, okay, yesterday's price ain't 1:05:55.080 --> 1:05:59.440 today's price. And I will be mad at you, be 1:05:59.520 --> 1:06:02.160 mad at me if I want to. I will be 1:06:02.160 --> 1:06:03.840 mad at you if you didn't do what you did. 1:06:04.280 --> 1:06:06.320 Period point of blank But before we get into the 1:06:06.320 --> 1:06:12.080 the guttation part, did you have a receiver courtesy call that, hey, 1:06:12.400 --> 1:06:16.160 we're in talks with your ex husband and his next 1:06:16.200 --> 1:06:17.280 to come back to the show. 1:06:17.720 --> 1:06:17.880 No. 1:06:19.840 --> 1:06:24.320 Never, No one ever calls me. No one ever said, 1:06:24.440 --> 1:06:26.680 you know, what do you think about this idea. No 1:06:26.720 --> 1:06:29.360 one ever said, well, we're thinking about reaching out to them. 1:06:29.840 --> 1:06:34.000 No one ever said, you know, we know the turbulent 1:06:34.480 --> 1:06:37.680 marriage and how the things went, you know, but we 1:06:37.760 --> 1:06:39.160 still think that this is going. 1:06:39.160 --> 1:06:40.560 To be a good idea for the show. 1:06:40.840 --> 1:06:43.000 So we just want to give you a heads up 1:06:43.840 --> 1:06:48.280 we're probably gonna look to bring your ex husband and 1:06:48.760 --> 1:06:51.400 his new love interests on the show. 1:06:53.840 --> 1:06:57.080 No, not at all. I had to learn that, like 1:06:57.280 --> 1:06:59.640 on social media, Like why. 1:07:02.560 --> 1:07:05.600 You found out your ex husband was coming back to 1:07:05.640 --> 1:07:07.040 the show through social media? 1:07:08.560 --> 1:07:11.200 No one calls me. I have no text messages, I 1:07:11.200 --> 1:07:12.480 have no calls. I have none of that. 1:07:13.160 --> 1:07:16.080 I began to put two and two together when I 1:07:16.160 --> 1:07:19.040 saw like a lot of the some of the ladies 1:07:19.120 --> 1:07:21.040 kind of hanging out with them, you know, and I 1:07:21.160 --> 1:07:24.720 was like, oh, Okay, I see what this is. And 1:07:24.960 --> 1:07:28.560 I think there was a cryptic message under one of their. 1:07:31.280 --> 1:07:31.640 Posts. 1:07:31.680 --> 1:07:34.280 I think it could have been Simon and something by 1:07:34.360 --> 1:07:36.959 hanging out and talking a lot of something or something 1:07:37.080 --> 1:07:39.240 stay tuned for me or to me, it's something. And 1:07:39.320 --> 1:07:43.840 I said, oh, oh, I see what this is. I 1:07:43.920 --> 1:07:46.480 see exactly what this is. 1:07:47.600 --> 1:07:47.920 Wow. 1:07:49.800 --> 1:07:58.800 Wow, yeah, been on the show, been you know, been 1:07:58.800 --> 1:08:01.440 here since Conception said that before. I said that, I 1:08:01.440 --> 1:08:03.440 think heavenly and I one time I had alive or 1:08:03.440 --> 1:08:07.640 something and I was like, I felt disrespected, not even 1:08:07.680 --> 1:08:13.960 a courtesy call. Didn't care how I would feel, didn't 1:08:14.000 --> 1:08:18.600 care you know, are you even ready for that? 1:08:18.800 --> 1:08:21.479 Quad? Like, is this going to be some form of 1:08:21.520 --> 1:08:26.360 a trigger for you? Like nothing, crickets? 1:08:29.760 --> 1:08:32.080 Did you cry? I? 1:08:34.400 --> 1:08:35.360 I was perplexed. 1:08:36.600 --> 1:08:43.760 I was confused. I felt like, why why would you 1:08:46.120 --> 1:08:52.320 be so cruel towards me? Is what I felt like? 1:08:52.520 --> 1:08:57.680 Why would you not even lend me a courtesy just 1:08:57.720 --> 1:09:00.240 a phone call? I like to think that over the year, 1:09:00.520 --> 1:09:04.240 you know, I enjoyed married to medicine. There's been some tough, tough, tough, 1:09:04.240 --> 1:09:04.960 tough times for. 1:09:04.960 --> 1:09:09.960 Me on the show, but they have become my family. 1:09:10.080 --> 1:09:13.000 You can't be with a group of people for ten 1:09:13.120 --> 1:09:16.680 years and not have some emotional tie to them, you know. 1:09:17.120 --> 1:09:22.840 And I just felt like, did I mean anything, do 1:09:22.920 --> 1:09:30.040 you all anything? You couldn't have called me. 1:09:30.760 --> 1:09:33.719 You couldn't have just flew in town and sat down 1:09:33.880 --> 1:09:35.160 with me and kind of just. 1:09:38.080 --> 1:09:39.400 Had a conversation with me. 1:09:41.880 --> 1:09:45.000 Did you, for one moment take your producer's head off 1:09:45.120 --> 1:09:54.880 and just put on your had of humanity? I wasn't 1:09:54.920 --> 1:09:57.479 given that courtesy. 1:09:58.320 --> 1:10:04.920 So then you started to work on renegotiating your contract. 1:10:06.240 --> 1:10:10.320 And allegedly missed out on four to five weeks of filming. 1:10:12.120 --> 1:10:15.360 Five weeks of filming due to negotiating. When I learned that, 1:10:15.600 --> 1:10:21.040 I went in, my cloth is my protein shape, my cloth, 1:10:21.080 --> 1:10:26.240 and child have my protein shake before I workout, And 1:10:26.320 --> 1:10:28.960 I said, I don't know if you saw this video 1:10:29.040 --> 1:10:29.519 that I did. 1:10:31.600 --> 1:10:35.719 I did a video and I said, y'all. 1:10:35.520 --> 1:10:41.799 Filming for five weeks without miss Squad, y'all brought Phaser back, 1:10:43.040 --> 1:10:46.960 y'all bringing her X and his next and we don't 1:10:46.960 --> 1:10:50.400 have Quad. Y'all gonna tell me, y'all want me to 1:10:50.439 --> 1:10:53.719 tune in to next season without seeing the eff center 1:10:54.000 --> 1:10:55.280 of that storyline. 1:10:55.760 --> 1:10:58.720 And I did a mock phone call and I said. 1:10:58.560 --> 1:11:01.080 This was the producer's calling Quad because at this time 1:11:01.080 --> 1:11:04.920 I think you closed on your deal. This is like 1:11:05.000 --> 1:11:08.599 five weeks into okay, and I said, they called and said, look, bitch, 1:11:09.080 --> 1:11:10.439 it's five weeks and nothing's going on. 1:11:10.920 --> 1:11:13.439 What do we need to do? What is going on here? 1:11:14.720 --> 1:11:19.240 We need to bring her back because clearly our negotiating power. 1:11:19.000 --> 1:11:23.599 Has has has has ended. She's serious about that. 1:11:25.680 --> 1:11:30.559 Was this a strenuous process of you trying to get 1:11:30.680 --> 1:11:33.800 what you felt was fair due to the circumstances. 1:11:34.640 --> 1:11:38.479 Yeah, you know, first of all, I don't negotiate with people, 1:11:38.520 --> 1:11:41.240 and in terms of I'm not verbal, you know, I 1:11:41.320 --> 1:11:44.439 have an agent who handles all of that for me, 1:11:44.640 --> 1:11:47.160 you know, and then there's a you know, a legal 1:11:47.200 --> 1:11:49.600 team there, there's an agent, and then they kind of 1:11:49.640 --> 1:11:52.640 go back and forward with the network and. 1:11:52.439 --> 1:11:53.320 You know here and there. 1:11:53.400 --> 1:11:56.880 So I'm not in the minutia of all of that. 1:11:57.520 --> 1:12:00.600 I trust my agent to do the right thing by me. 1:12:00.800 --> 1:12:03.240 I trust him to fight for me. I trust him 1:12:03.280 --> 1:12:06.960 to present things to show my value and to show 1:12:07.040 --> 1:12:10.720 my worth, uh, to paint that picture. And that's kind 1:12:10.760 --> 1:12:16.559 of what happened this this season. I did feel that, 1:12:17.760 --> 1:12:19.040 you know, the writing was on the while it was 1:12:19.040 --> 1:12:22.080 supposed to be this whole trio of you know this, 1:12:23.200 --> 1:12:26.320 I guess pulling a tug in for doctor G or 1:12:26.360 --> 1:12:29.640 you know, you know, how is Quie gonna respond? Is 1:12:29.680 --> 1:12:32.120 this gonna evoke any emotion from her? Is she gonna 1:12:32.160 --> 1:12:34.720 be jealous? Is she gonna be mad? Is she you know, 1:12:34.840 --> 1:12:37.559 gonna you know, is it gonna be some form of 1:12:37.760 --> 1:12:39.599 a fight or some form of a debacle? 1:12:40.040 --> 1:12:48.519 You know, And you know, it just wasn't that. It 1:12:49.120 --> 1:12:50.040 wasn't It wasn't that. 1:12:50.120 --> 1:12:53.960 But I think that was the idea in bringing them on. 1:12:54.680 --> 1:12:58.639 You know, did I think that people were running around, 1:12:58.880 --> 1:13:03.559 you know, looking for doctor G and whoever his next 1:13:03.600 --> 1:13:04.120 woman was. 1:13:04.200 --> 1:13:08.080 I don't necessarily think that that was an. 1:13:09.320 --> 1:13:14.200 I'll call there for that, But I think that the 1:13:14.360 --> 1:13:15.800 agenda behind. 1:13:15.479 --> 1:13:18.400 It was to see if it could. 1:13:18.920 --> 1:13:20.960 Get my panties in a bunch and get me all 1:13:21.040 --> 1:13:22.800 rolled up, and you know. 1:13:24.360 --> 1:13:26.880 That will be a thing, you know, for the show. 1:13:30.240 --> 1:13:35.240 Are you were you satisfied with the agreement that you 1:13:35.240 --> 1:13:37.320 your ages and your lawyers made for you to return? 1:13:37.360 --> 1:13:40.519 Were you were you? Were you satisfied with it or 1:13:41.000 --> 1:13:41.240 or not? 1:13:42.320 --> 1:13:44.080 Well? 1:13:44.320 --> 1:13:52.400 I like to think that I felt like, because they 1:13:52.439 --> 1:13:55.559 were coming on board, that other concessions could have been 1:13:55.600 --> 1:14:00.960 made and should have been made. Right, you know, we've 1:14:01.080 --> 1:14:03.880 had other situations to kind of happen on the show, 1:14:03.880 --> 1:14:07.160 But I didn't see anyone else bringing any other mistresses 1:14:07.880 --> 1:14:08.479 on the show. 1:14:11.479 --> 1:14:16.600 I didn't see that. But I did see. 1:14:15.560 --> 1:14:19.920 My ex husband and his new now wife brought on 1:14:19.960 --> 1:14:23.559 the show with no problem. And I think for me, 1:14:25.800 --> 1:14:28.280 it's about where's the respect for me? 1:14:30.240 --> 1:14:36.160 Have I not lend my contribution to the show. 1:14:37.760 --> 1:14:41.160 Have I not brought some value or some work to 1:14:41.280 --> 1:14:47.400 the show. Have I not advocated for the show? Why 1:14:47.960 --> 1:14:52.640 am I being just take what we're gonna give you, 1:14:52.840 --> 1:14:54.840 and Yeah, we're gonna put these people in front of 1:14:54.840 --> 1:14:58.960 your face and you're gonna smile bearing grand behind. 1:15:01.520 --> 1:15:02.960 Were you satisfied with the terms? 1:15:04.360 --> 1:15:06.280 No? I think things could have been a lot better. 1:15:07.080 --> 1:15:17.080 Yeah, Phaedra came back and made a comeback American Medicine. 1:15:17.640 --> 1:15:19.439 Me along with the fans were like, this is the 1:15:19.479 --> 1:15:20.320 new freaking fact. 1:15:20.320 --> 1:15:24.559 We were excited. We were reminded of a clip of 1:15:24.600 --> 1:15:28.960 you and Phedra when she appeared in American Medicine. You know, 1:15:29.000 --> 1:15:32.080 you guys have this good whim's called funk girlfriend relationship. 1:15:32.680 --> 1:15:34.600 How did you find out Faedra was coming back to 1:15:34.640 --> 1:15:35.000 the show. 1:15:35.720 --> 1:15:38.320 Well, I had I had been talking to Phaedria too, 1:15:38.520 --> 1:15:41.639 but because I mean, our relationship has been long standing, 1:15:41.760 --> 1:15:43.920 you know, I didn't care who in Atlanta was not 1:15:44.240 --> 1:15:46.559 friends with Phaedra and who told me not to be 1:15:46.640 --> 1:15:49.559 a friend or to watch her or she's this and. 1:15:49.520 --> 1:15:52.120 She people say that to you all the time. They 1:15:52.200 --> 1:15:53.240 said to watch Phaedra. 1:15:53.840 --> 1:15:58.280 Yeah, with your eyes and another pair too. But I 1:15:58.360 --> 1:16:01.599 never felt like that about Fia. I never felt like that. 1:16:01.680 --> 1:16:04.120 The energy between phag and I had always been good. 1:16:04.200 --> 1:16:08.479 We've always been really cool, you know. And so I 1:16:08.560 --> 1:16:10.600 was like, yeah, I hear you all, but you know, 1:16:10.680 --> 1:16:14.200 she's all right with me, and I can be your 1:16:14.320 --> 1:16:18.000 friend and her friend too. I'm not gonna not be 1:16:18.080 --> 1:16:20.559 this person's friend because maybe some things are going on 1:16:20.800 --> 1:16:24.240 with some people. You know, we no mutual people, right, 1:16:26.160 --> 1:16:29.840 So I did hear that. You know, she was saying 1:16:29.880 --> 1:16:32.639 that she was dating a doctor. 1:16:32.960 --> 1:16:33.679 Have you met him? 1:16:34.000 --> 1:16:34.479 I have not. 1:16:35.240 --> 1:16:39.120 Have you seen a face time? No a picture. 1:16:40.360 --> 1:16:42.599 I saw the picture that was on the show with 1:16:42.640 --> 1:16:45.400 the Mulji face on it, but I've not seen like 1:16:45.640 --> 1:16:48.120 a picture on the phone or if her and I 1:16:48.160 --> 1:16:51.200 may have been sitting next to each other. No, I'm 1:16:51.200 --> 1:16:56.400 not What I will say, is we the ladies of 1:16:56.439 --> 1:16:59.599 married to medicine had never seen him yet. 1:17:00.040 --> 1:17:05.120 Okay mmmmm yeah. 1:17:05.160 --> 1:17:07.559 And so so basically I heard that, you know, she 1:17:08.000 --> 1:17:11.679 was dating a doctor. And then you know, uh, Matthew 1:17:11.680 --> 1:17:13.960 Anderson and I began to have conversations. 1:17:14.000 --> 1:17:16.240 Of course, he knows that, uh we. 1:17:16.080 --> 1:17:19.479 Were friends and her Phaser and I have been cool 1:17:19.520 --> 1:17:22.120 for a long time. And actually that connection did come 1:17:22.160 --> 1:17:25.840 through my ex husband, to be honest with you, and uh, 1:17:26.040 --> 1:17:27.800 she knew me and really didn't know many of the 1:17:27.840 --> 1:17:31.040 other girls, like none really you know, knew of them, 1:17:31.120 --> 1:17:34.799 but not personal relationships with them. So of course Matthew 1:17:34.840 --> 1:17:37.120 and I had conversations and it's like, you know, he 1:17:37.240 --> 1:17:39.160 told me a little bit more about you know, possibly 1:17:39.160 --> 1:17:40.880 bringing Phaser on board. I thought that it was a 1:17:40.880 --> 1:17:46.040 great idea. You know, I think Phaser understands television. You know, yeah, 1:17:46.040 --> 1:17:46.960 she understands it. 1:17:47.080 --> 1:17:51.080 And so you know, he was like, you know, let's 1:17:51.200 --> 1:17:53.639 let's work on this, and I said, let's do it, 1:17:54.000 --> 1:17:54.200 you know. 1:17:54.439 --> 1:17:58.479 And so I was asked to participate in her process 1:17:58.560 --> 1:18:00.759 of coming on board, and I did like an audition, 1:18:01.360 --> 1:18:03.960 you know, on behalf of her and spoke very high 1:18:04.479 --> 1:18:07.360 audition you know, you send in a tape, and I 1:18:07.360 --> 1:18:10.920 said in my office, and you know, there was a 1:18:10.920 --> 1:18:12.760 line of questions that. 1:18:12.760 --> 1:18:17.800 Was presented to me. You had a camera and you 1:18:17.840 --> 1:18:19.920 pressed the recorba in yeah. 1:18:19.880 --> 1:18:23.040 Like so it was the casting person. Uh huh. And 1:18:23.080 --> 1:18:25.120 then you know she just zoomed me. We had a 1:18:25.160 --> 1:18:25.799 zoom meeting. 1:18:25.960 --> 1:18:28.600 And then there was a number of questions that was 1:18:28.640 --> 1:18:32.880 asked in respect to myself and phase or in our relationship. 1:18:33.080 --> 1:18:37.720 And yeah, I answered the questions and I told them, 1:18:37.760 --> 1:18:39.559 you know how I really felt about her, that she 1:18:39.680 --> 1:18:41.680 was great for TV, and you know, her and I 1:18:41.720 --> 1:18:44.400 have a great relationship. She's really cool and it's fun 1:18:44.520 --> 1:18:46.920 and you know, really want a better watch out because 1:18:46.960 --> 1:18:49.880 the chocolate Girl's coming through and you know, yeah, that's 1:18:49.920 --> 1:18:50.600 all recorded. 1:18:51.040 --> 1:18:52.360 That's all recorded, and so. 1:18:52.479 --> 1:18:56.439 I really I was happy to hear it and really 1:18:56.520 --> 1:18:58.719 even more happy to help bring her on board. 1:18:59.320 --> 1:18:59.519 You know. 1:18:59.760 --> 1:19:01.799 So could you advocated for Phedro? 1:19:02.000 --> 1:19:02.120 Oh? 1:19:02.200 --> 1:19:05.040 Certainly that was easy. 1:19:05.760 --> 1:19:07.880 That was very easy for me to do because I 1:19:07.960 --> 1:19:11.040 wanted to see her back on television. I thought she 1:19:11.120 --> 1:19:14.080 was always great for TV. I mean, what it had 1:19:14.120 --> 1:19:16.400 been maybe five years that we had not seen her 1:19:16.520 --> 1:19:21.720 on a show consistently, and I just felt like you know, 1:19:22.560 --> 1:19:26.400 we're good. Her and I are great, So I didn't 1:19:26.439 --> 1:19:28.760 see a reason for me not to advocate for her. 1:19:30.240 --> 1:19:33.519 So when you advocated for Phedra to get on the show, 1:19:34.360 --> 1:19:37.559 how did you feel in these past two episodes when 1:19:37.600 --> 1:19:41.519 you guys were at the table, And from what I saw, 1:19:41.680 --> 1:19:43.280 it appeared she did not want. 1:19:43.200 --> 1:19:44.200 Advocate for you. 1:19:49.560 --> 1:19:57.280 At the table. The table scene was horrible. Across the board, 1:20:02.560 --> 1:20:04.640 across the board, the table. 1:20:04.400 --> 1:20:09.120 Seine was horrible. And to learn that she had. 1:20:10.560 --> 1:20:15.360 Changed her airline ticket, I'm like, that's not what you 1:20:15.439 --> 1:20:15.960 told me. 1:20:16.560 --> 1:20:16.760 You know. 1:20:16.920 --> 1:20:19.000 I text you like, Hey, I'm at the airport, No, 1:20:19.800 --> 1:20:20.760 what's up, what's going on? 1:20:20.840 --> 1:20:21.320 Where are you? 1:20:21.520 --> 1:20:23.439 And she's like, oh, I'm running around, girl, I'm at 1:20:23.439 --> 1:20:26.240 the drug store. I'm running around at the drug store. 1:20:26.320 --> 1:20:28.800 You know I'll be there something along those lines. 1:20:28.840 --> 1:20:31.880 I do have the text messages. And so for me 1:20:31.920 --> 1:20:35.040 to later on here that. 1:20:38.800 --> 1:20:41.519 She basically changed her flight because she didn't want to 1:20:42.640 --> 1:20:45.800 be around me or maybe wanted to go along. 1:20:45.640 --> 1:20:51.559 To get along, that was devastating. I didn't understand why 1:20:51.560 --> 1:20:52.200 she would do that. 1:20:56.000 --> 1:21:00.800 I watched those two episodes and and I was so 1:21:00.920 --> 1:21:04.759 confused because from episode one and let me tell you something. 1:21:04.880 --> 1:21:08.280 This is coming from a person who produces shows, creates it. 1:21:08.960 --> 1:21:10.400 Watched the edit, all that stuff. 1:21:10.960 --> 1:21:13.080 I don't know anybody that can miss five weeks of 1:21:13.120 --> 1:21:15.640 work negotiating, and then the first episode, second, third, or 1:21:15.720 --> 1:21:18.360 fifty six seven eight, because. 1:21:18.080 --> 1:21:22.320 You you you for the audience. Every week and a half, 1:21:22.720 --> 1:21:23.719 you're taking an episode. 1:21:23.800 --> 1:21:26.360 Yeah, every week at Les Yeah, week week and a half. 1:21:26.560 --> 1:21:28.560 You're in the episode, taking off your draws, hopping in 1:21:28.600 --> 1:21:32.760 the bath to a baby. I mean, but you're in 1:21:32.800 --> 1:21:35.800 the first episode. And again, I'm such a fan of 1:21:35.840 --> 1:21:37.280 the show that I was like, oh my god, the 1:21:37.320 --> 1:21:38.360 new freaking I'm. 1:21:38.200 --> 1:21:38.760 Gonna see this. 1:21:39.520 --> 1:21:44.479 And we saw y'all friendship. We even saw it at 1:21:44.640 --> 1:21:47.640 the funeral home and you came off the casket, honey, 1:21:48.080 --> 1:21:51.200 with a resurrection like it was Easta. You know, it 1:21:51.400 --> 1:21:54.679 was giving very much Easter Sunday, Honey, Bryan. 1:21:55.200 --> 1:21:59.519 You know, we loved it. 1:21:59.520 --> 1:22:04.320 It was even from our batcher's point, as if view 1:22:04.360 --> 1:22:08.599 were every single episode was fed your quad, fed your quad? 1:22:09.120 --> 1:22:09.639 What you got big? 1:22:09.720 --> 1:22:10.120 I got that big? 1:22:10.160 --> 1:22:10.559 What are you doing? 1:22:12.400 --> 1:22:16.840 And it was like the next episode after that, it 1:22:16.960 --> 1:22:24.320 was like instantly we saw her not even utter a 1:22:24.560 --> 1:22:30.040 word in your defense and It was shocking to us. 1:22:30.280 --> 1:22:33.720 It was almost like someone had told them, like, go 1:22:34.120 --> 1:22:36.400 with the girl for Quad Gopher Quad. 1:22:36.600 --> 1:22:38.640 She's the target. Isolate her. 1:22:46.320 --> 1:22:49.120 Heavily said in My Life that there was a lot 1:22:49.160 --> 1:22:52.400 that was cut out that you and Toya almost got 1:22:52.479 --> 1:22:55.639 into a fist fight at the funeral home. 1:22:56.560 --> 1:22:58.640 We did not almost get into a fist fight at 1:22:58.680 --> 1:23:02.880 a funeral home down down to the walkins. 1:23:02.880 --> 1:23:03.360 We did not. 1:23:04.160 --> 1:23:07.280 Was there a heated discussion, Yes, we had a heated discussion. 1:23:07.280 --> 1:23:09.880 They had Toy and I sitting right next to one another, 1:23:10.240 --> 1:23:12.000 as you can see if you go back and look 1:23:12.040 --> 1:23:12.960 at that episode. 1:23:13.200 --> 1:23:15.840 But we were not about to fight. We did not 1:23:15.960 --> 1:23:16.639 even get. 1:23:16.560 --> 1:23:20.479 Up and stand up like and walk up against each 1:23:20.479 --> 1:23:20.960 other like. 1:23:22.680 --> 1:23:25.000 What's t and heavenly. 1:23:24.760 --> 1:23:30.479 Yeah, but there were words spoken passionately, Yes there were. 1:23:31.720 --> 1:23:35.760 And then she's intimated that you make comments about I'm 1:23:35.800 --> 1:23:38.080 here to get my check, I'm in for my check, 1:23:38.160 --> 1:23:38.920 fuck you bitches. 1:23:39.479 --> 1:23:42.080 Well I never said fuck you bitches, okay at all, 1:23:42.560 --> 1:23:45.559 But when you know that someone doesn't like you, like, 1:23:45.640 --> 1:23:49.880 how did if we go back into the episode and 1:23:50.120 --> 1:23:52.720 was like, oh, we can quit stay with you? 1:23:52.960 --> 1:23:54.720 Can she stay with you? Can she stay with you? 1:23:54.720 --> 1:23:54.840 Oh? 1:23:54.840 --> 1:23:56.439 I'm not getting her room. Did she stay with you? Can? 1:23:56.479 --> 1:23:56.720 She say? 1:23:56.840 --> 1:23:59.320 And it was it was I was made a mockery up, 1:23:59.680 --> 1:24:01.920 and it was like no one wanted to room with me, 1:24:02.640 --> 1:24:06.160 you know, and oh what Fader said, she wished she 1:24:06.200 --> 1:24:08.880 doesn't wish to stay to stay with you, Jackie said, 1:24:09.000 --> 1:24:11.240 now with eight o's and all of that, and all 1:24:11.280 --> 1:24:15.599 of that was made to kind of make me feel 1:24:17.200 --> 1:24:21.479 left out or make me feel unwanted, you know. 1:24:21.840 --> 1:24:28.880 And so that was the beginning of like, oh, I 1:24:28.960 --> 1:24:29.920 see what this is. 1:24:33.040 --> 1:24:36.200 And there were some things that did happen at the 1:24:36.200 --> 1:24:43.080 Resurrection where Heavenly, I think Toya had gotten into it 1:24:43.080 --> 1:24:46.240 with Alicia and said some things, made some allegations against 1:24:46.280 --> 1:24:51.880 Alicia's husband and his practice or something, and uh, there 1:24:51.920 --> 1:24:56.600 was a conversation after that over the phone where I 1:24:56.600 --> 1:24:59.200 thought it was just personal between Vader and I, and 1:24:59.640 --> 1:25:02.080 she was saying that, you know, this is. 1:25:02.040 --> 1:25:05.799 A bunch of ninja s h I t and if I, 1:25:06.040 --> 1:25:08.320 you know, I don't want to be a part of that. 1:25:08.720 --> 1:25:13.400 And and I would say, well, you know, we're we're 1:25:13.760 --> 1:25:15.880 good over here. I mean, you know, the house the 1:25:15.920 --> 1:25:18.720 housewives you know, were I'm sure a lot tougher you know, 1:25:18.880 --> 1:25:22.200 like Phedra, like, seriously, this is this is but this 1:25:22.280 --> 1:25:24.120 is this is easy for you here. 1:25:24.080 --> 1:25:30.040 Picking daisies off of the vines. 1:25:29.000 --> 1:25:31.720 Nor were you blowing out dandelion. 1:25:34.000 --> 1:25:36.800 So so so anyway, I just thought that truly was 1:25:36.840 --> 1:25:41.000 like a personal conversation between us, just her and I, 1:25:41.320 --> 1:25:44.000 And then later on Heavily and I spoke, and I'm 1:25:44.080 --> 1:25:48.679 learning that she told Heavenly and Simon and maybe. 1:25:48.479 --> 1:25:49.519 Even had a couple of others. 1:25:49.600 --> 1:25:51.439 Anyway, it got around to the girls, and some of 1:25:51.439 --> 1:25:54.439 the girls were offended by her saying this is some 1:25:54.600 --> 1:25:57.160 ninja shit and she didn't want to be a part 1:25:57.200 --> 1:25:59.240 of If it was going to continue to go like that, 1:25:59.680 --> 1:26:02.120 then you would rather just be continue to do her 1:26:02.160 --> 1:26:04.760 one off shows like Ultimate Girl's Trip and things of 1:26:04.800 --> 1:26:09.600 that nature. And in that I remember Heavenly and I speaking, 1:26:09.960 --> 1:26:13.920 and Heavenly said something along the lines, well, she just 1:26:13.960 --> 1:26:17.600 got afraid when Toya started going off on you know, 1:26:20.120 --> 1:26:25.800 Alisha and making those allegations against Alicia, and she said, 1:26:25.840 --> 1:26:27.960 I feel like, you know, Phraser got scared, and I 1:26:28.000 --> 1:26:29.760 was said, what do you mean? And you know, she's like, 1:26:29.800 --> 1:26:31.400 but Frasier, you know, Phaser was a liar, and this 1:26:31.439 --> 1:26:33.200 and the other. I said, what, you know, what, what's 1:26:33.200 --> 1:26:33.800 you lie about? 1:26:33.880 --> 1:26:34.040 You know? 1:26:34.080 --> 1:26:37.120 She? Are you talking about her not knowing how many 1:26:37.160 --> 1:26:40.639 months pregnant she was? Because that's what I remember at 1:26:40.640 --> 1:26:42.320 that time, you know that. My brain kind of went 1:26:42.400 --> 1:26:45.240 to that. And then Heavenly was like, because I read 1:26:45.320 --> 1:26:47.679 the book. I read the book that Angela Statton wrote, 1:26:48.120 --> 1:26:51.040 and I was like, oh, and I. 1:26:51.160 --> 1:26:52.160 Was like, who's that you know? 1:26:52.320 --> 1:26:54.920 Because all of that to me, it was just completely 1:26:55.000 --> 1:26:59.400 like I thought about the pregnancy, right, And so with 1:26:59.560 --> 1:27:02.559 that there was conversation. I was like, oh, okay, so 1:27:03.840 --> 1:27:05.920 whoa And so then that was kind of like the 1:27:06.000 --> 1:27:08.120 end of the conversation. So later on, when I see that, 1:27:08.200 --> 1:27:11.599 Fadra says that Heavenly told her that I was talking 1:27:11.600 --> 1:27:14.800 about her. I wasn't talking about Phaedra. Why would I 1:27:14.800 --> 1:27:16.439 bring her or help her get on the show to 1:27:16.479 --> 1:27:17.840 turn around and talk about her. 1:27:18.080 --> 1:27:18.920 I did not do that. 1:27:18.960 --> 1:27:21.200 What I thought when Heavenly said something about her lying 1:27:21.320 --> 1:27:24.559 being a liar, I automatically went to the fact that 1:27:24.600 --> 1:27:27.680 she did not remember how many months pregnant she was 1:27:27.760 --> 1:27:29.919 and maybe she did that due to her religion. 1:27:30.680 --> 1:27:32.519 That's what I said, And then. 1:27:32.400 --> 1:27:35.599 Everything else kind of trickled or rolled out from Heavenly, 1:27:36.280 --> 1:27:39.639 but apparently I don't know if Heavenly ever told her 1:27:39.680 --> 1:27:43.080 what she had said in reference to it. I just 1:27:43.200 --> 1:27:48.000 remember saying, that's what I said. You understand what I'm saying. 1:27:48.000 --> 1:27:50.960 And so it was interesting that Fader didn't even call 1:27:51.000 --> 1:27:52.400 me and say, hey, you know, were. 1:27:52.280 --> 1:27:54.439 You talking about me? That you say anything about me? 1:27:54.560 --> 1:27:57.599 You know, like or you know, I feel like, you know, 1:27:57.680 --> 1:28:00.000 there's some things we need to talk about because I'm 1:28:00.040 --> 1:28:02.479 feel in a certain type of way and for that, 1:28:02.680 --> 1:28:03.200 I'm not. 1:28:03.080 --> 1:28:05.200 Gonna take the flight with you. 1:28:06.120 --> 1:28:08.679 Instead, you told me you was running around and getting 1:28:08.680 --> 1:28:11.599 some last many things and shopping at the. 1:28:11.560 --> 1:28:15.320 Local pharmacy. 1:28:15.320 --> 1:28:16.520 Walgreens for CBS. 1:28:16.600 --> 1:28:17.479 Maybe I think it was right. 1:28:27.840 --> 1:28:28.160 I had. 1:28:28.360 --> 1:28:33.080 I literally I have, I have. I can't make it up. 1:28:33.200 --> 1:28:36.720 I can't make it up. I can't make it up. 1:28:37.040 --> 1:28:38.519 I know you can't got understand. 1:28:38.560 --> 1:28:38.680 I know. 1:28:39.880 --> 1:28:43.080 Let's just say that of that surprises me. What did 1:28:43.160 --> 1:28:48.200 surprised me though, is this. I felt that there was 1:28:48.479 --> 1:28:50.360 this army. 1:28:52.200 --> 1:28:53.760 Of people. 1:28:55.000 --> 1:28:59.040 Trying to kick you off the show, and that there 1:28:59.160 --> 1:29:04.320 was a mission that when she gets to San Francisco, 1:29:06.439 --> 1:29:12.559 the mission is to get her off the show. And 1:29:12.600 --> 1:29:16.519 again I'm only basically means off what I've seen because. 1:29:16.280 --> 1:29:16.880 I'm a viewer. 1:29:18.400 --> 1:29:26.240 You were so humble to me in your conversations with 1:29:26.400 --> 1:29:28.559 the girls, even when you walked in your lime green 1:29:28.600 --> 1:29:31.800 honey outfit back. But baby, that lime green was it 1:29:31.880 --> 1:29:34.479 was baby in all the right places. 1:29:34.640 --> 1:29:35.400 I saw it too. 1:29:36.080 --> 1:29:39.599 Damn miss what you're telling girl, Oh, I said, my god, 1:29:39.880 --> 1:29:42.439 God God, I loved. 1:29:42.240 --> 1:29:43.920 I had an appetype of oysters. 1:29:44.000 --> 1:29:45.200 I did pearls. 1:29:49.880 --> 1:29:56.120 Okay, So when I saw you walk in and my 1:29:56.240 --> 1:29:57.920 good de choice is told you I gave you the 1:29:58.280 --> 1:30:00.559 desk there, baby, I was. 1:30:00.640 --> 1:30:04.040 Like, okay, we know' had an issue at the resurrection, 1:30:04.160 --> 1:30:06.839 but I always bought that took bad As a girls, 1:30:07.080 --> 1:30:09.519 y'all always know how to break it back. You'll always 1:30:09.640 --> 1:30:11.439 do how to bring it back. So I never take 1:30:11.479 --> 1:30:15.519 things y'all say deeply in terms of like it's forever ruin. 1:30:15.720 --> 1:30:17.840 It's like, don't work the way back back together. It's 1:30:17.880 --> 1:30:21.160 all good. But I saw that, and like you said, 1:30:21.360 --> 1:30:22.320 I don't want to room with her. 1:30:22.560 --> 1:30:24.160 Boom boom boone the room key. 1:30:24.720 --> 1:30:27.759 So I saw all these things happening, and you're like, okay, 1:30:27.800 --> 1:30:28.599 I mean I got money. 1:30:28.600 --> 1:30:30.080 I can get my own room if that's if that's 1:30:30.120 --> 1:30:31.680 an issue. But I'm here to support you. 1:30:32.160 --> 1:30:33.840 Even when you sat down the tample, you said, look, 1:30:33.960 --> 1:30:36.200 Toya Au drops aside as a black. 1:30:36.000 --> 1:30:39.519 Woman in winery. This is amazing. Congratulations. I love that. 1:30:41.840 --> 1:30:47.320 I told Heavenly, I said, if that was a mission to. 1:30:46.520 --> 1:30:49.160 Get her off the show, y'all should. 1:30:48.880 --> 1:30:53.400 Have said, aboard, aboard a board, the bitch is coming 1:30:53.400 --> 1:30:55.320 in humble guys, we're going on board. 1:30:55.080 --> 1:30:57.160 Mission eighty six. 1:30:57.280 --> 1:31:01.040 This this, this beat on the sheet because we are 1:31:01.080 --> 1:31:02.360 not going to have a pomposa. 1:31:03.400 --> 1:31:06.240 And and and the reason why me and. 1:31:06.200 --> 1:31:10.200 The audience felt that energy is because everybody's face was 1:31:10.240 --> 1:31:10.760 still like. 1:31:13.280 --> 1:31:17.160 Determined. And then it felt like Heavenly. 1:31:18.560 --> 1:31:24.960 Had to say something. And when she said, well you 1:31:25.080 --> 1:31:29.360 use me, what did she mean by that? Because we 1:31:29.479 --> 1:31:32.519 never felt that you were using her. But I want 1:31:32.560 --> 1:31:36.160 to be able to were you surprised to hear that? 1:31:37.280 --> 1:31:39.639 Well, you just hite me with a whole Sorry, now, 1:31:39.720 --> 1:31:43.120 it's just that's very loaded, very loaded. So I'm going 1:31:43.160 --> 1:31:48.320 to try to take it in part. When James Knox 1:31:48.720 --> 1:31:55.040 asked me to come out to to Napa Valley, and 1:31:55.240 --> 1:31:58.960 I knew that it was for Toya. You know, but 1:31:59.080 --> 1:32:05.400 I'm always he in a position of it doesn't matter 1:32:05.680 --> 1:32:10.200 what you're going through with the person. If this woman 1:32:10.520 --> 1:32:13.000 is doing something he or she, If a person is 1:32:13.040 --> 1:32:19.639 doing something that should be supported, then you get there 1:32:20.240 --> 1:32:21.120 and you support it. 1:32:21.840 --> 1:32:26.880 And I know how through the years Toya. 1:32:26.600 --> 1:32:30.920 Has been kind of pegged as the person who doesn't 1:32:30.960 --> 1:32:33.920 really do anything. You know, all she does is sit 1:32:34.040 --> 1:32:38.559 back and spend the money, and you know, spend Eugene's money, 1:32:38.600 --> 1:32:39.759 and all of that has been. 1:32:39.640 --> 1:32:43.200 Said throughout the years about Toya. 1:32:43.840 --> 1:32:48.280 I was really happy that Toya had made a connection 1:32:49.320 --> 1:32:53.400 where she could now have a wine club to present 1:32:53.600 --> 1:32:55.920 a list of wines, to say, hey, if you purchase 1:32:56.000 --> 1:32:59.360 this under my code, then you get this discount, and 1:32:59.400 --> 1:33:01.960 then that will be an additional revenue stream for her. 1:33:02.600 --> 1:33:07.040 I can remember talking to Toya years ago, years ago 1:33:07.080 --> 1:33:09.479 on her and I. We were cool and we were 1:33:09.520 --> 1:33:13.599 on the phone and we were talking about you know, 1:33:15.200 --> 1:33:18.360 other things we can do, you know, extending the brands, 1:33:18.439 --> 1:33:20.519 and you know, I think at that time I was 1:33:20.560 --> 1:33:23.960 working with like picture Perfect Puff or something, and I 1:33:24.040 --> 1:33:28.320 said to her, well, Toya, what do you like Let's 1:33:28.360 --> 1:33:31.000 stop right here and just think about the things You're like, 1:33:31.000 --> 1:33:32.320 what do you like to do? 1:33:33.640 --> 1:33:37.080 And she was like, oh no, I mean I don't 1:33:37.080 --> 1:33:38.000 know what I like to do. 1:33:38.200 --> 1:33:40.720 And this is a phone call and I could You 1:33:41.000 --> 1:33:45.200 can hear her thinking and then she says, well, I 1:33:45.320 --> 1:33:46.120 like being a mom. 1:33:46.680 --> 1:33:49.720 And I said, that's good. That's a real good one. 1:33:49.760 --> 1:33:52.360 I said, come up, I said, think about some of 1:33:52.400 --> 1:33:56.519 the challenges that maybe your sons have had, you know, 1:33:57.439 --> 1:34:00.000 or maybe you know their friends have had, or even 1:34:00.240 --> 1:34:02.880 you as a mother, think about some of those things, 1:34:02.920 --> 1:34:04.080 those challenges. 1:34:03.680 --> 1:34:06.000 That you had have had or they have had. 1:34:06.520 --> 1:34:11.040 And what can you create, no matter if it's a device, 1:34:11.320 --> 1:34:13.679 if it's some form of a method to be sold, 1:34:13.920 --> 1:34:18.240 whatever it is, what can you create that could actually 1:34:18.800 --> 1:34:23.400 be some form of a mechanism to help the kids 1:34:23.960 --> 1:34:26.400 be easier on the moms while still. 1:34:26.160 --> 1:34:30.439 Being able to earn you an additional income. What does 1:34:30.479 --> 1:34:33.599 that look like? I don't know. 1:34:33.920 --> 1:34:36.760 You should probably research it, but that may be a 1:34:36.800 --> 1:34:39.920 good place for you to start. And this was a 1:34:40.040 --> 1:34:42.920 one on one personal conversation, wasn't filmed. It was just 1:34:43.400 --> 1:34:45.320 two people on the phone who liked each other at 1:34:45.320 --> 1:34:47.960 the time, two people on the phone who got along, 1:34:48.560 --> 1:34:51.040 two people on the phone who were cool, and I 1:34:51.479 --> 1:34:59.080 stopped for moments of this brainstorm, so to see that happening, 1:34:59.120 --> 1:35:02.280 maybe if a sold I mean season one, maybe between 1:35:02.320 --> 1:35:04.479 season one and season two or something like that, or 1:35:04.520 --> 1:35:07.519 maybe earlier on in our seasons. I can't really remember, 1:35:07.560 --> 1:35:09.400 because I know that people like hold me to it 1:35:09.479 --> 1:35:10.519 let me I was, but. 1:35:10.439 --> 1:35:11.719 I can't remember. 1:35:11.720 --> 1:35:14.639 But it was an earlier on, earlier years in the show. 1:35:15.439 --> 1:35:20.080 And I remember having that phone conversation with her, and 1:35:20.880 --> 1:35:26.240 to see that, you know, eight years later, nine years later, 1:35:26.640 --> 1:35:29.800 she's now able to have something of her own, it 1:35:29.880 --> 1:35:35.000 pleads me. And I was very happy for her. And 1:35:35.040 --> 1:35:37.880 I was more than eager and happy to support her 1:35:39.720 --> 1:35:41.400 because I know what that meant for her. 1:35:44.320 --> 1:35:44.960 But I did not. 1:35:46.960 --> 1:35:49.960 Know that I was going to be pretty much ambushed 1:35:50.360 --> 1:35:54.680 on that trip. I had no idea that that was 1:35:54.760 --> 1:35:58.000 going to happen when we left the Resurrection, truly, I thought, 1:35:58.120 --> 1:36:01.000 because I went through each one of them, Jackie, you know, 1:36:01.040 --> 1:36:03.639 are you ready to bury the strife? Jackie said, no strife, 1:36:03.680 --> 1:36:06.080 you know, heavinly said she didn't have an issue with anyone, 1:36:06.080 --> 1:36:08.719 then started in on sweet Tea, and you know, of course, 1:36:08.760 --> 1:36:11.120 Phaser and I were cool and in a good place 1:36:11.160 --> 1:36:13.679 I did not know Alicia very much. Was eager to 1:36:13.880 --> 1:36:15.920 get to know her, you know, wanting to get to 1:36:15.960 --> 1:36:17.960 know her, thinking I had more time to get to 1:36:17.960 --> 1:36:19.840 know her. Now her and I have had conversations of 1:36:19.880 --> 1:36:22.879 course off you know, off off record and off the cameras, 1:36:23.240 --> 1:36:25.200 you know, so I'm still getting to know her. And 1:36:25.200 --> 1:36:29.840 then of course, you know, sweet tea, it's sweet tea, 1:36:29.880 --> 1:36:33.640 you know what I mean, there's a you know, I 1:36:33.640 --> 1:36:37.640 think her husband is probably gonna trying to keep that 1:36:37.720 --> 1:36:39.160 wedge between the two of us. 1:36:39.360 --> 1:36:40.880 You don't mind getting to know. 1:36:40.800 --> 1:36:47.479 Her, No, not necessarily, I don't mind, Okay, No, I mean, listen, 1:36:47.720 --> 1:36:51.320 how I look at that particular situation is but it's 1:36:51.360 --> 1:36:53.360 been what five years, five and a half years, maybe 1:36:53.360 --> 1:36:57.160 close to six. Now you're supposed to find love again. 1:36:57.360 --> 1:37:00.120 You're supposed to find happiness again. You're supposed to if 1:37:00.160 --> 1:37:04.160 you be able to enjoy your life, whatever that looks like. 1:37:04.800 --> 1:37:08.240 You know, for him, it's remarrying, right you know, right now. 1:37:09.120 --> 1:37:12.880 For me, it's traveling and seeing life and meeting different 1:37:12.960 --> 1:37:15.840 cultures and you know, seeing what the world has out there. 1:37:15.880 --> 1:37:20.880 For me, it's no wrong way. Whatever your journey is 1:37:20.880 --> 1:37:25.840 to happiness, just get there, just get there. So I 1:37:25.880 --> 1:37:29.439 don't have animosity towards her. It wasn't like she cheated 1:37:29.479 --> 1:37:32.160 with him, right right right. You know, this girl came 1:37:32.200 --> 1:37:35.240 meaning many years later, you know what I mean, So 1:37:36.160 --> 1:37:41.599 it would be ridiculous for me to have something against 1:37:41.600 --> 1:37:45.679 her in reference to him. Now, she said some things 1:37:45.760 --> 1:37:48.120 thus far, and I'm sure the reunion will will deal 1:37:48.160 --> 1:37:51.200 with those things that she's said in reference to me, 1:37:51.360 --> 1:37:54.640 But outside of that, in regards to him, I have 1:37:54.720 --> 1:37:55.559 no problem with her. 1:37:58.000 --> 1:38:01.280 No. Now he on the other end, have is you know. 1:38:04.520 --> 1:38:05.360 But going back to. 1:38:06.920 --> 1:38:08.680 That dinner, I just felt like, oh, this is a 1:38:08.760 --> 1:38:10.160 complete ambush. 1:38:10.479 --> 1:38:13.320 And I'm sitting here trying to. 1:38:16.439 --> 1:38:20.479 I'm trying to hear you all out, and I want 1:38:20.520 --> 1:38:23.679 to hear you all out, and I'm listening and I'm 1:38:23.800 --> 1:38:30.479 keyed in, but I'm also wanting to have my voice heard, 1:38:31.320 --> 1:38:33.600 and at every single turn. 1:38:34.880 --> 1:38:35.760 They shut me down. 1:38:36.240 --> 1:38:38.519 It's like if I wasn't saying what they wanted me 1:38:38.560 --> 1:38:41.439 to say, then they didn't want to hear it. And 1:38:41.479 --> 1:38:47.200 that was very disheartening. It was almost like everyone knew 1:38:47.280 --> 1:38:51.479 what was about to happen. Everyone was in on it 1:38:51.560 --> 1:38:52.040 except me. 1:38:53.880 --> 1:38:56.160 Now, That's what it felt like, and I felt like 1:38:57.720 --> 1:39:01.759 I felt like there was a mission. And I'm not even. 1:39:01.640 --> 1:39:05.920 Gonna say necessarily from the girls, right, I don't know, 1:39:06.040 --> 1:39:10.240 because again I'm not there. But in their defense, it 1:39:10.360 --> 1:39:15.120 just seemed like everybody was like, we're in on it. 1:39:15.200 --> 1:39:16.679 And I think Faedra even knew. 1:39:16.479 --> 1:39:18.479 Which is why she was quiet as a church mouse 1:39:19.080 --> 1:39:21.360 and avoided flying on the same flight as you. I 1:39:21.439 --> 1:39:28.200 think everybody knew except you, but that these girls had 1:39:28.280 --> 1:39:33.800 to do it because they're on camera, right, And I 1:39:33.840 --> 1:39:40.720 have never seen you appear so hurt. I mean when 1:39:40.760 --> 1:39:46.720 Simone gave you the blow, I literally. 1:39:47.479 --> 1:39:49.280 Even the episode before that, I think I said this 1:39:49.280 --> 1:39:49.519 to you. 1:39:49.600 --> 1:39:51.840 I was like I couldn't sleep that night because it 1:39:51.920 --> 1:39:55.639 felt mean, girlish, and that's never bring y'all show. Y'all 1:39:55.680 --> 1:39:58.200 show has never been about like we're gonna ice one out. 1:39:59.400 --> 1:40:01.400 It's just never that. So when I saw it, I 1:40:01.479 --> 1:40:05.040 was like, this seems weird, and it wasn't. I felt 1:40:05.439 --> 1:40:08.959 bad for you, of course, also felt bad for the collective, 1:40:09.040 --> 1:40:11.320 like what are we doing here? And then when I 1:40:11.360 --> 1:40:15.160 saw someone deliver the blow to you, like we don't 1:40:15.200 --> 1:40:16.679 want you here, we want you to go home? 1:40:19.439 --> 1:40:21.320 What I was. 1:40:21.439 --> 1:40:24.800 Shaking and I saw you look sad, then we saw 1:40:24.840 --> 1:40:27.719 you cry when you got back to your hotel room. 1:40:29.840 --> 1:40:31.720 In that moment, though, qua did you feel like? 1:40:34.160 --> 1:40:39.640 Did you feel embarrassed, hurt, disappointed? 1:40:40.920 --> 1:40:41.799 For all of the above. 1:40:49.080 --> 1:40:51.960 Thank you for listening to Reality with the King. New 1:40:52.040 --> 1:40:58.760 episodes dropped every Tuesday, Share, comment, follow, and subscribe to 1:40:58.880 --> 1:41:02.719 Reality with the King. 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