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Speaker 2: on Carlos Kingshop dot com. Welcome to Reality with the King.

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Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and

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Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality

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Speaker 2: television with over ten years of production experience. Once a

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Speaker 2: week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with

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Speaker 2: my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality

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Speaker 2: shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking

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Speaker 2: and tweeting about going on. And I just happened to

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Speaker 2: be in the neighborhood. Yeah, because I saw the last

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Speaker 2: episode and.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to let you know that you have a

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Speaker 1: friend in me.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: And one thing about our relationship that I don't think

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Speaker 2: a lot of people know, because I'm very private when

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Speaker 2: it comes to private conversations that I have with my

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Speaker 2: girls in reality television.

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Speaker 1: Everyone knows this.

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Speaker 2: I think by now that a lot of the black

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Speaker 2: theme of reality stars. Even though white ones child, you

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Speaker 2: all lean on me for advice, and I never share

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Speaker 2: anything publicly because I'm here as a friend and not

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Speaker 2: somebody who's trying to get anything out of you. So

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Speaker 2: based on what's been happening this season, even before this season, Baby,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I am the married to medicine field reporter.

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Speaker 4: Baby, Baby, I'm talking my boots on the ground, on

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Speaker 4: the ground maybe, honey.

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Speaker 2: I feel like finally the show is getting just do.

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Speaker 3: And here's the thing. First of all, I got so

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Speaker 3: much to say.

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Speaker 5: It's so great to see you. It's so good to

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Speaker 5: see you, so good to spend some time with you.

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Speaker 5: We go back, so people don't even understand how far

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Speaker 5: we go back, you know, years, Yeah, And I just

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Speaker 5: want to first thank you for being who you were then.

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Speaker 5: And you are the exact same person to me now

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Speaker 5: that you were then. Absolutely amazing, a soundboard, a person

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Speaker 5: who cares. And it's funny because people would think, you know, Carlos,

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Speaker 5: it's all about TV TV TV.

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Speaker 3: There's such another component.

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Speaker 5: Of you in terms of being a real friend, where

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Speaker 3: Bron move mm hmm.

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Speaker 5: Now I'm not gonna have that for you.

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Speaker 3: You know, you give very good.

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Speaker 5: Sound advice and even if it's not to your benefit,

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Speaker 5: you know. But but here's the thing, a lot of

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Speaker 5: people in production don't do that, oh I see saying,

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Speaker 5: so it's challenging to have something real with them or

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Speaker 3: I have said some things to you before and you're like, girl,

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Speaker 3: that's it, but that's not you.

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Speaker 5: Know, And I appreciate that, and I appreciate you you

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Speaker 5: telling me even when like, well, I don't know that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I truly do appreciate that. So I just

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Speaker 3: Coming to check on me.

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Speaker 5: You text me what was that the other day? And

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Speaker 5: I'm not liking how some things I'm saying. Are you good?

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Speaker 5: Don't tell me the strong cud. Are you good?

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Speaker 3: And you know what I mean? Mentally? Are you good? Emotionally?

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Speaker 5: And it's tough, it's tough. Last week was really tough.

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Speaker 5: Last week was really tough, and I don't want this

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Speaker 5: But I want to say just thank you for checking

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Speaker 3: I want to thank you.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome. Listen, You're one of my babies. You know

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Speaker 2: I feel like when it comes to this, Oh my gosh, Quad,

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Speaker 2: I'll reach Child like, Hey, I'm seeing some things.

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna care? You good?

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Speaker 2: You're somebody who I have always loved and I know

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Speaker 2: the real Quad not saying that you don't tee me,

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Speaker 1: It's all you.

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Speaker 2: But we only get to see forty two minutes of

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Speaker 6: We gotta split it up.

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Speaker 1: You gotta split it up, honey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. With the coins in the pocket, Child and the

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Speaker 1: But you're one of my.

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Speaker 2: Babies, and you and I have a close relationship because

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Speaker 2: champion for me. You have held me down some tough

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Speaker 2: times too, bitch. So this this goes both ways. I've

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Speaker 2: been going through a lot personally. You have been there

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Speaker 2: for me. Listen. I love this show and the cast

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Speaker 2: because heavenly has been there for me personally, Jackie Toya

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Speaker 2: I love this genre and a ver protective of the

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Speaker 2: If I'm being very transparently, I am sort of like

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Speaker 1: I'll figure cast sometimes understands you.

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Speaker 3: People don't understand me sometimes, you know.

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Speaker 5: And and here's the deal, they don't get a full

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Speaker 5: And I say that meaning like we just talked about Hell,

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Speaker 5: what about forty five minutes, and so you're having to

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Speaker 2: What I want to highlight before we get into the

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Speaker 5: Now let me say this, Baby, I am glad that

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Speaker 5: miss Married to Medicine is getting her just due. Because

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Speaker 5: years later, now we're finally saying, hold on, wait a minute.

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Speaker 5: Ago all of these shows are great, but that one over.

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Speaker 3: There, wait a minute, that's the one to watch.

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Speaker 5: And so I'm really happy to be a part of it.

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Speaker 3: I'm really happy to be a part of you.

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Speaker 1: You should be.

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Speaker 2: You should be, especially because you are a black girl

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Speaker 2: from Memphis, Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Baby in town.

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Speaker 1: Okay, did you know.

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Speaker 2: That stardom was a part of your destiny when you

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Speaker 1: Because Baby, you have the eye and the t.

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Speaker 2: You really did and you're fine, thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's real. You know, some of my camera gots gonna

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Speaker 1: did you know you were a star?

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Speaker 5: You know what, I've always been a person that's been

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Speaker 3: It's just what I like to do.

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Speaker 5: I like to have fun and I like to be

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Speaker 5: of who I've been all my life. And to be

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Speaker 3: Honestly.

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Speaker 5: I grew up thinking that I was going to become

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Speaker 1: That was the furtherest.

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Speaker 3: From the truth. You know, that wasn't what God had

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Speaker 3: I was in Nashville.

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Speaker 5: At this time, I went to Tennessee State and graduate

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean I graduate from the Tennessee State.

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Speaker 6: She's agreed hood, yes, yes she is.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, I ain't never sweats.

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Speaker 5: But I do remember where I met this woman and

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Speaker 5: I said, this lady don't know. She doesn't know what

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Speaker 5: Like, clearly you don't know what you're talking about, talking

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Speaker 5: I know what she said will absolutely be the path

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Speaker 5: It was an opportunity for me to mesh my biology

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Speaker 5: And so I was like, this is great, this is

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Speaker 3: And I did very well there.

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Speaker 5: And then, of course we know, years came fast forward,

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Speaker 1: Was she a profit?

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Speaker 3: Baby? Sout?

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Speaker 2: She had now because I happily said, all my life,

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Speaker 1: You were living with Mariah.

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Speaker 3: I've never lived with Maria.

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Speaker 1: She said, you were a roommate.

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Speaker 2: But in that moment, did you feel like, huh is

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: So when you when you are and I know this

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Speaker 5: I think it's important for everyone to always know their worth,

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Speaker 2: When you were going through what you were going through,

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Speaker 5: I think sometimes we have to do a self reflection,

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Speaker 3: And that was hertful. That was hertful.

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Speaker 3: Oh, child, child, don't baby, don't say that.

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Is that Let's have a conversation happen. And this is

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Speaker 3: Let's happen.

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Speaker 2: Every single ensemble show has a breakout star. Every single

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Speaker 2: Desney Child had Beyonce, Yes, the Jacksons have Michael Chicago

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything wrong with giving someone their

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Speaker 2: And I'm saying this loving the show, being a fan

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Speaker 1: You were arguably the.

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Speaker 1: Okay, girl, let's do it.

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Speaker 3: And I was, And you know, my.

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Speaker 5: And there would be some doors that I would walk

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Speaker 3: I truly believed it.

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Speaker 5: I believed it would everything in me. You couldn't have

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Speaker 5: shifted in our relationship.

450
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: Do you think Mariah was jealous of your success?

451
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 5: I think she felt like this is her baby and

452
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 5: she deserved to be in that position. How dare they

453
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 5: say that about someone else, and especially at being.

454
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:55,239
Speaker 2: Quip you being labeled to break our star. You're the

455
00:25:55,280 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: first person I've ever said that too, that didn't say,

456
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: of course, I was bitch, because a lot of women

457
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: who are the breakout star. I said it to me

458
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: E Leaks, for example, She's like a bitch, duh, right, Like,

459
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: of course was good. When I say that to some girls,

460
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,239
Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, bitch, duh. I know that you're the

461
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: first person I've ever spoken to that when I said

462
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: you were the breakout star, you got uncomfortable, as if

463
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: you are suffering through PTSD from what that label means

464
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: to you, because you I don't want put words in

465
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: your mouth, but when I'm gathering from your energy is

466
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: being called the breakout star makes you uncomfortable because you

467
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: probably were never celebrated. Hearing that being called the breakout

468
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 2: star apparently has brought you turmoil, losing your best friend,

469
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 2: possible jealousy, possible envy. Why am I on the money

470
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: with that one? You don't You don't seem to like

471
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 2: receive that.

472
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 5: You're on the right track. It's a lot to carry.

473
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 5: There are certain things that are expected of you that

474
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,239
Speaker 5: is not expected of others. There are certain things that

475
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 5: certain people can completely get away with, and you just cannot.

476
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 5: Everything you do is held to a higher standard.

477
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 3: You are not given the same grace.

478
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 5: You are expected to carry yourself in a certain way. Uh,

479
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 5: And you are under heavy scrutiny with that title.

480
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: Was that title weaponized?

481
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 5: Of course, nothing that I just said was good about.

482
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 5: Nothing that I said it was good about it, at

483
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 5: least from my experience. You know, maybe Nini had a

484
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 5: different type of experience, and some others may have had

485
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 5: a different type of experience, but for me, it has

486
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 5: completely just made me.

487
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 3: It's been painful at times for me.

488
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 1: What we saw throughout the course of the season was

489
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: you becoming this star.

490
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: And this is somebody who did season one of Atlanta

491
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: Housewives and I told Nini to her face, bit, you're

492
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: a star before we wrapped production. This is two thousand

493
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: and eight, before the show of me air, I said,

494
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: you're a star and you're going to be major. I

495
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: did Season one of Jersey Housewives. I told Teresa judaies, bitch,

496
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: you put that table. After she did that, I said,

497
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: you're a star. You're gonna be the biggest star on

498
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: this show. I know a star when I see one,

499
00:28:54,560 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 2: and when it comes to you. We saw that that

500
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: you've had Sister Circle. You were signed by the biggest

501
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: agency in the world, one of the biggest agencies, CAAA.

502
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: You've had so many opportunities that were given to you,

503
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: similarly to a lead singer of a female girl group

504
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: who starts to experience things outside of the collective, Right,

505
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: did you get a big hit though? When you started

506
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: to receive these compliments because one thing I have seen,

507
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: I have seen.

508
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, women say I'm gonna start of the show, bitch,

509
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: this is my motherfucking show. Ho I'll get them when I.

510
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: Get there, y'all. Ain't on me, honey, please, She'll come

511
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: when she comes. Heavenly has alluded to some of that

512
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: happening with you, that you felt like you were better

513
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: than these girls.

514
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: Is that the case?

515
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 5: Did I ever say that I was better than anyone verbally?

516
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 5: I've never said that I'm better than anyone in fact.

517
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 5: In fact, I came in this as the complete underdog

518
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 5: of the.

519
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: Entire show, you know, and that also.

520
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 5: Lended to, you know, the thought process of what people

521
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 5: perceived me to be right I had. I could go

522
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 5: back to episode season one. I remember my father was

523
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 5: still living at the time, and he questioned mem Mariah's

524
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 5: friendship and I was upset by it.

525
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, how dare you question her friendship? What do

526
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 3: you mean?

527
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 5: He said, are you sure that she's your friend? And

528
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 5: I said, of course she is. What's going on with you?

529
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: You know her? You know what's going on.

530
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 5: And he said, you need to go back and watch

531
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 5: that episode. You need to go back and watch and

532
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 5: pay attention to the season, and I do remember there

533
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 5: was something that stuck out to me and it kind

534
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 5: of played me like was low, like I was nothing

535
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 5: in a sense, like I was this charity case. I

536
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 5: remember the words was like, oh, you know, she just

537
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 5: don't know, she doesn't know how to be a doctor's wife,

538
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 5: you know, like she just has to you know, we

539
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 5: need to mold her. And you know, along those lines

540
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 5: as if there was no I had no couth and

541
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 5: I was not polished, and I was, you know, not

542
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 5: well spoken, and that's my vernacular, has always been my vernacular.

543
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why. I'm from Memphis, right.

544
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 5: I don't know if you've ever been down there, but

545
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 5: and I went to Tennessee State University, and I remember

546
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 5: people would make fun of us, you know, like, oh,

547
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 5: you know girls from Memphis, and y'all talk like her

548
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 5: their street BurrH, you know, and I'm like, I didn't

549
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 5: like it. I didn't like it one bit. And I said,

550
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 5: at that very moment, I think I was It could

551
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 5: have been during the summer and I was went through

552
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 5: orientation or something, and that just was kind of like

553
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 5: the running thing, you know, and I was like, you're

554
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 5: not gonna view Memphis like that.

555
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: I didn't like it.

556
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 5: And from that moment when I got into my dorm

557
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 5: room and the young ladies that came in with me

558
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 5: from Memphis, I was like, listen, we're.

559
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 3: Hanging out anyway. You know, we're on the fifth floor.

560
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 5: I stayed on the sixth at that time, and we

561
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 5: would go downstairs. I had a couple of friends from Memphis.

562
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 5: Was a gang of us that would hang out, and

563
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 5: I said, we spent a lot of time watching me

564
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 5: see the Cedars world and all of this.

565
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: Let's get the dictionary out.

566
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 5: Let's read this dictionary from cover to cover, understanding the

567
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 5: contexts properly, how to say the word, and let's show

568
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 5: a different face to Memphis. We started strong. Of course,

569
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 5: you know, through the years or whatever, some of the

570
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 5: women fell out, some of the girls fell out, but

571
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 5: I stuck with it, and for me, it meant something.

572
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 5: I didn't want people to look at my city like that,

573
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 5: and I didn't want to be viewed like that. Right,

574
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 5: So when I heard things like she doesn't know how

575
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 5: to be a doctor's wife, and so forth and so on,

576
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 5: and saying that to the other girls, knowing that she

577
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 5: was my best friend.

578
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: These girls didn't know me, you know, like at that time,

579
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: it was.

580
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 5: They heavily had not come on board, just came on

581
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 5: board the second season. But the others didn't know me

582
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 5: from Adam's House Cat or a whole in a while, right,

583
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 5: But they knew her, and they knew how close we were.

584
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 5: And for her to say something like that, or for

585
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 5: them to hear her say something like that, it kind

586
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 5: of almost put me kind.

587
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: Of here beneath them, Yes, and to rise above that,

588
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: because look, I've had situations where I had to boss

589
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: up some time and say, no, I am the king

590
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: of reality, teav When you're talking about that, I am

591
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: that boy. Please we all go through that, and I

592
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: want to. I want to have an honest conversation because

593
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: I think it helps people understand things. Would you say

594
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 2: things like that the people I am a star bede

595
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: what you're talking about, I.

596
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 5: Used to have on my page, by the way, married

597
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 5: to Medicine or star of Married to Medicine, literally like

598
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 5: it was on my Instagram.

599
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: Baby scrub Scrub Scrub is not there anymore, you know.

600
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 5: And I made that determination at decision some time ago.

601
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 5: And for me to say that I was a star

602
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 5: married to medicine, a star of the star of married

603
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 5: to medicine didn't mean that others were not.

604
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: It did not.

605
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 5: I'm not taking anything away from you all. I'm just

606
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 5: saying what I am.

607
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

608
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 5: And if you say heavily says all the time, she's

609
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 5: the smartest person in the room, hally doesn't take my

610
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 5: intellect away.

611
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: It doesn't. I don't feel that.

612
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 5: I don't feel that her saying that she's saying that

613
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 5: she's the smartest person in the room takes anything away

614
00:34:59,400 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 5: from me.

615
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 3: Is she smart? It she is doesn't mean that I'm done.

616
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 1: So for you.

617
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: What I'm gathering to is, because you felt like you

618
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: were being pushed down, you had to work to build

619
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: yourself up.

620
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 5: Started from the bottom. Started from the bottom, and Drake said,

621
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 5: started from the bottom. Now I'm here, started from the bottom.

622
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 5: And it was a clawing to the top with that,

623
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 5: because well, we don't know it, but if our best

624
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 5: friends say this the hell that's what it's what it is,

625
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 5: then we believe that, and that's how we're gonna view her.

626
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: Until I had to.

627
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 5: Cognitively break out of that and show people who I

628
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 5: really am. You know, I'm always been a very quick

629
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 5: witted person, very very very sharp with my tongue in

630
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 5: terms of knowing how to speak, that had never had

631
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 5: a problem with public speaking in my life ever, ever,

632
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 5: and so and always been a very domestic person, you know,

633
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 5: very cleanly person, a person who is you know, cultured.

634
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 3: But when I go back to.

635
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 5: Season one, that's not how a person would perceive me

636
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 5: at all.

637
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 7: Now.

638
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 5: I do remember being at event or something that they

639
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 5: were throwing, and I remember Carrie and Toya was kind

640
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 5: of coming at me about, you know, how could I

641
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 5: marry someone that would call off the wedding? And you know,

642
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 5: I went through that too, And then there was some

643
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 5: things that was transpiring earlier on.

644
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: Prior to the wedding.

645
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 5: And you know, and I just remember feeling that and

646
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 5: I didn't I didn't understand that right because it was

647
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 5: just like a couple of days prior work. We were

648
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 5: all having lunch and having a good time. So I

649
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 5: really didn't understand. Now the red dot is on and

650
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 5: you all are coming to me like this, You're confronting me,

651
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 5: You're waiting for me to walk through the door. I

652
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 5: come through the door with gifts in toe and just

653
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 5: to have a good time, and I'm not knowing, Oh

654
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 5: she's a targeting So when you see Quad hit the door,

655
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 5: y'all go at her and they began to question me

656
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 5: about so it was carrying, I think toy at the time,

657
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 5: and I just remember not understanding TV and I was

658
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 5: just like.

659
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: Don't monk, don't God damn line.

660
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

661
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: Like I didn't. I didn't get it. I didn't get it.

662
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: And I was very raw at that time.

663
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: Did you appearing on Sister Circle forever change the dynamic

664
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 2: of your relationship with the cast? You know?

665
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 5: That's interesting? And in the episode that we've just seen

666
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 5: that just aired, I think it was Jackie who said,

667
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 5: you know, I can remember when when she was on

668
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 5: Sister Circle, and you know what, does she say something

669
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 5: about me being on Sister Circle or with my Sister

670
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 5: Circle friends. I'm paraphrased because I can't remember, but I

671
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 5: remember that it was Jackie who was going back and

672
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 5: oh she said maybe she was she felt hurt or

673
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 5: something or they felt hurt or something when I was

674
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 5: a part of Sister Circle, when Sister Circle was you know,

675
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 5: on air, and I'm just looking at that like, how

676
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 5: sold Jackie, Because you guys are my group of a

677
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 5: group of friends of mine. These women are a group

678
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 5: of friends of mine. Why can't I not have two, three, four,

679
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 5: or five six groups of.

680
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 3: Friends at that time in my life.

681
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 5: The girls that were a part of Sister Circle, they

682
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 5: were more tender and soft and understanding and showed a

683
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 5: lots more of compassion for what I was going through.

684
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 5: During that time, my marriage had began to unravel. Things

685
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 5: were not good at home, and some of the girls

686
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 5: knew what was going what I was going through, they

687
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 5: didn't know to what magnitude. Of course, at that time,

688
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 5: I'm emotionally trying to gather myself. I'm mentally trying to

689
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 5: make the right decision for my happiness and for my future.

690
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: But I was still loved my husband at the time.

691
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 5: And so there were things that had transpired that if

692
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 5: I would have verbally said them, I was afraid that

693
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 5: it would harm him in his career, and it did

694
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 5: not present itself at that time to be a safe space.

695
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: Both shows were different.

696
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 5: Sister Circle was about, you know, empowering, encouraging, motivating, educating,

697
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 5: and we do see some of that also on marriage

698
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 5: to medicine. But it's all about conflict resolve. Conflict resolve,

699
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 5: and when you are feeling like it's not a safe

700
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 5: space to say certain things that you refrain from saying,

701
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 5: you just refrain from saying them. And that's kind of

702
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 5: how that shook out. I did not feel when Jackie

703
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 5: went through what she went through with Curtis. I felt

704
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 5: like everyone rallied around her, supported her. When Jackie said

705
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 5: that she was done talking about it, it was done,

706
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 5: it was over, was through, and I even respected that.

707
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 5: Right when Cesa and Simone we're going through what they

708
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 5: were going through, we saw that at one of the reunions,

709
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 5: we all rallied around them, right.

710
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 3: But I wasn't extended that.

711
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 5: I wasn't extended that type of compassion and empathy and care.

712
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 5: I had to go and get that from my girls

713
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 5: at Sister Circle. Did not mean that I did not

714
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 5: like my friends, you know, within the Married to Medicine group.

715
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 5: Didn't mean that I did not like them or against

716
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 5: them or anything.

717
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 3: I had to go where I felt like I was

718
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 3: most supported.

719
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 5: And it's not saying that some of the girls on

720
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 5: Marria to Medicine didn't have an inkling of understanding as

721
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 5: to what I was going through.

722
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: I think there was a time where.

723
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 5: Andy Cohen and I think it was one season where

724
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 5: Gregory and I.

725
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: Had sat on the stage of and with Andy Cohen.

726
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 5: It was doing the reunion, and remember there were a

727
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 5: group of women and who came out. I think it

728
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 5: was probably Toya and Mariah at the time, and maybe Simone.

729
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 3: And I'm not sure if Simone.

730
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 5: Said this or not or agreed with this or not,

731
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 5: but because there was so many moving pieces, but I

732
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 5: do remember where Andy Cohen had said, well, you know

733
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 5: the next segments like, well, what do you guys think

734
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 5: about what you guys heard behind stage?

735
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 3: You know that he said that he hit.

736
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 5: Her, And I just remember, you know, the voices saying

737
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 5: he didn't say he said he hit her.

738
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: That's not what he said. You can't say he hit her.

739
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 6: He's a doctor.

740
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 3: You can't say that. What do you say? He didn't

741
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 3: say that?

742
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 5: And he literally had to get into a banter with

743
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 5: them and said, I'm telling you he said it.

744
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 3: He said it in front of me, and I was just.

745
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 5: Like, WHOA, these girls hate me so much that they

746
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 5: can't even support me, and they're not even believing what

747
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 5: is being said, and I'm telling them that it happened,

748
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 5: and I'm telling them that it was said, and it

749
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 5: takes Andy Cohn to put a stamp on it. They

750
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 5: gave me that much that they couldn't even hear it

751
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 5: from me because Andy Cohen and I was both saying no,

752
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 5: he said it, and they hated it appeared to me

753
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 5: or I felt like they hated me so much that

754
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 5: they couldn't even hear it from me. It was Andy

755
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 5: Cohen who made it real for them, and that was difficult.

756
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 3: That hurts.

757
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: So you're in this environment where you don't feel supportive,

758
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: you don't feel like it's a safe space for you

759
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: to truly give one hundred percent of yourself to them,

760
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: because they never provided the window of opportunities of opening like, no,

761
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: come to us, We want to be here for you,

762
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: the way you saw that with Simon and with the

763
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: way you saw that with Jackie.

764
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: When it comes to the medical community. Because you're not go.

765
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 5: Ahad, I had to interrupt, But I do want to

766
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 5: add this before we move on.

767
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to lose my train of thought.

768
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 5: And and and I don't know how there in the

769
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 5: in the scene in the episode they flashed back to

770
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 5: I think it was my book launch and I had

771
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 5: an all white party.

772
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: It was like a birthday slash book.

773
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 5: Launch and all white party, and they flashed back to

774
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 5: me saying, you know, I was going to give.

775
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 3: Up on women.

776
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 5: And then Sister Circle came into my life. I really

777
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 5: felt that way.

778
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 3: I had a lot going on.

779
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 5: I had, you know, other friends, you know that are

780
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 5: not on the show who just didn't understand. I had

781
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,959
Speaker 5: the pressures of what was going on with my relationships

782
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 5: with some of the girls within the Marriti Medicine group

783
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 5: of friends. And then you know, there was Circle. But

784
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 5: slightly after I gave the girls of Sister Circle their flowers,

785
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 5: I turned to give my girls from Married to Medicine

786
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 5: some love and to acknowledge them as well. And I

787
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 5: looked around and looked around, and it was already understood.

788
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 5: It's kind of like they had a perception. They couldn't

789
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 5: even give me the time or the patience to get

790
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 5: to them to say the things that I also wanted

791
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 5: to say about them, which was also saluting some of them,

792
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 5: which was also paying homage to some of them in

793
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 5: highlighting who they were to me in my life, not

794
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 5: all of them have been poor to me, maybe at

795
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 5: different times.

796
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: Or hell, they could say the same about me, you know,

797
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: so they just didn't.

798
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 5: It was kind of like it was already etched in

799
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 5: their mind that, oh, she spoke about sister circle, so

800
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 5: she's about to she she's about to upstage us and

801
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 5: say something negative about us, or she's let's go before

802
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 5: she says it. And I looked around the room desperately

803
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 5: because I wanted them to hear how much I care

804
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 5: for them too. By that time, Toya and I think

805
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 5: it was some all they had left.

806
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 3: I didn't.

807
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 5: They never even got an opportunity to hear what I

808
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 5: was about to say, because it was already.

809
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 3: In their head, like.

810
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 5: She's given them accolades, but she's not gonna give it

811
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 5: to us. They didn't give me the time. They didn't

812
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 5: give me the patience to even to even just wait

813
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 5: one moment. You're up next. I know who you are.

814
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 5: You all are to me. It ain't It hadn't always

815
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 5: been all bad. It hadn't always been all bad. So

816
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 5: I'm tapping in from the times when it was good.

817
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 5: You guys are we've been We've had some great times together,

818
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 5: and we have some deep rooted relationships, and you guys

819
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 5: have helped me get through some other things. I see you,

820
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 5: I see you. They didn't give me an opportunity to

821
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 5: tell them, I see they left.

822
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: So what what? What?

823
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 8: So?

824
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 1: What?

825
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: What is it? Is it the fact that in the

826
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: doctor's community, is it cliquish? Is it that if not

827
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: a part of this very exclusive circle, whether you're you're

828
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: in the group by proxy being married to one of us, Okay,

829
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: if you're out of that club courtesy of divorce, Is

830
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: it that we're always gonna ribe with the medical professionals?

831
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.

832
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: Okay.

833
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 5: It's definitely not that the medical community is a tight

834
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 5: knit community, you know, especially when we talk about, uh,

835
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 5: the African American component of it. It's even smaller than

836
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 5: the masses. Of course we are the minority. But it

837
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 5: is not saying, oh, well, you know, because you're not

838
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 5: a doctor or you're not affiliated with a medical community,

839
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 5: then you know, I, as a doctor, I can't talk

840
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 5: to you mm hmm. You're neurologists. Neurologists, you know, anesty geologists,

841
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 5: nurse and aesthetists.

842
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 6: I mean what.

843
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 3: You know.

844
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 5: It's definitely not that, it's not that listen, all of

845
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 5: the girls of Mariti Medicine have outside friends. They have

846
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 5: friends who are nowhere near the medical community. They have

847
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 5: some friends who are not even you know, who don't

848
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 5: even have to work. They've been very fortunate to have

849
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 5: beautiful husbands, amazing husbands who will keep them together and

850
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 5: keep them kept. And they ain't made at that either,

851
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 5: you know, So you don't have to be. I don't

852
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 5: want to give the perception into people that, you know,

853
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 5: doctor Simone doesn't have friends who are not doctors or

854
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 5: not in the medical community, or doctor Jackie doesn't have

855
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 5: friends who are not in the medical community.

856
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: And the same with the heavenly It's not true.

857
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 5: You befriend people who you have commonalities with, who you

858
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 5: connect with, and who you feel like, you know, I

859
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 5: like this person. I want to have a long lasting

860
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 5: relationship with this person.

861
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: They're human. Their occupation is the occupation, you know. And

862
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: that's another thing.

863
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 5: I think one time I posted something about sometimes in

864
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 5: our country people feel like, oh, you know, they're doctors,

865
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 5: so they're perfect. No, the doctor is the title. Let's

866
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 5: see what's the character of the person, the individual.

867
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: Well, that's why we love it show so much.

868
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 2: Because it shows the flawedness of just everyday people.

869
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 3: Ball.

870
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: You have been accused of not keeping in touch with

871
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: your cast mates off season that when the shows wrapped,

872
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: Quad is out allegedly hanging out in Africa trying to

873
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: meet men, going to Kenya just to snag a husband.

874
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 3: Can you I cannot just put you on pause for

875
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 3: it's like like to go get my past.

876
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 6: Boy?

877
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: How many stamped me out of this pass by this Quad?

878
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: Oh lord, honey calling her booty in the pass for honey.

879
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 3: G globble entry.

880
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 6: No, but wait a minute. Even before that, I just had.

881
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: A pink parse okay, per man.

882
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 5: But but I do He's so silly.

883
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 3: I'm so over here, But I do want to say

884
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 3: something just I was thinking of this as I was

885
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 3: walking together the pass word okay.

886
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 6: You know, people say, oh, well, she was like this was.

887
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 5: When Sister Sir was on air and when she had

888
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 5: Sisters Circle and Sister Circle. What I do want people

889
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 5: to understand is I shared that platform with my friends

890
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 5: of Mary to Medicine. I shared that platform with doctor Jackie,

891
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 5: Doctor Heavenly, and Contessa. Doctor Heavenly, Doctor Jackie and Contessa

892
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 5: could come on that show as much as they wanted to.

893
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 5: We did a whole lot of cross pollination when it

894
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 5: came down to filming both shows.

895
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: It was great for everyone. So I when people say, oh, well,

896
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 3: you know, she just.

897
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 5: Cut them off, and you know, she thought she was

898
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 5: all that and she didn't, you know, share anything. I

899
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 5: shared my platform with them, you know, if they I

900
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 5: think one time we had Jackie on the show and

901
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 5: she talked about her fifty Shades of Pink shouts out

902
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 5: to the fifty Shades.

903
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 3: Of Pink, a charity, I mean foundation.

904
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 5: Another time we had Doctor Heavenly there and she was

905
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 5: talking about doing a dental makeover and we had contested

906
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 5: there talking about I think.

907
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 3: Opening up a new practice or something.

908
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 5: So I had always at the time shared that with

909
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 5: him with the people who were my friend my friends

910
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 5: with my friends at that time. Uh, doctor Simone and

911
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 5: I were not on the same page, or else I

912
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 5: would have shared.

913
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 3: It with her too, you know, I don't see why not,

914
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 3: you know.

915
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 5: And if Toya and I had been on the same page,

916
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 5: and if we were in a good place, I would

917
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 5: have shared it with her too. It takes nothing away

918
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 5: from me to see someone else win, nothing, nothing at all.

919
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 5: So I just really want to make that abundantly clear

920
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 5: to people, because there's always like there's married to medicine

921
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 5: and then there's sister's circle.

922
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 3: I am for who's for me? And if you're good

923
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 3: to me, I'm even better to you.

924
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: Are the Nigeria's good to you?

925
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 7: Wait?

926
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 3: Your thing?

927
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 6: I don't know the people said that I was.

928
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: I went down to Emily said you were a Kenya.

929
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: You hang out with some of.

930
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: Those housewives and these reality stars and you y'all go

931
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: to Africa to meet men.

932
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 3: Why would she say that? And she's saying Kenya, baby.

933
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 5: I let me see if I can go through here

934
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 5: and see if there's any page.

935
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: What about Bama?

936
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 5: Now say not all the part of Kenya that I've ever.

937
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 3: Heard of was Nairobi and that was the hair Movese.

938
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 6: So I don't have a step, but I do.

939
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 3: I would love to go to Kenya.

940
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 6: I don't have not have a step.

941
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 3: In there at all. That says nothing about Kenya.

942
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 6: I want to go, maybe heavily, and I should go.

943
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: Why not?

944
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: What? What what is she gonna do there?

945
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 3: Well? She might want to say, she might want she

946
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 3: may want to go into Safari.

947
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 7: The girls night like the little see it the little.

948
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 3: Draff alone neck giraffe or something. I don't know.

949
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 5: I don't know what do you mean a giraffe?

950
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: Wait? How long are the Nigerians in.

951
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 1: The giraffes?

952
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 2: Long?

953
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about a giraffe in Nigeria. I've

954
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: never been to Nigeria actually.

955
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 8: So what is this thing about you going to Africa

956
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 8: with the housewives?

957
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 5: First of all, the people just say whatever they want

958
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 5: to say, and because they said loud, strong or wrong,

959
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 5: and the people be like, oh no, I actually do

960
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 5: for holiday, I do go to Ghana. I love Ghana,

961
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 5: absolutely amazing place.

962
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 3: But listen, I'm over there.

963
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 5: I would like the second lady of the country, like

964
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 5: the second lady of the come.

965
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 3: That means, so they have the present and then they

966
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 3: have the vice president.

967
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 5: Well, they have the first lady and what they call

968
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 5: over there's the second lady that is the vice president's wife.

969
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 3: She's the second lady.

970
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 5: And I was a bit confused, you know when I

971
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 5: first happed here, because I was like, well, wait minute,

972
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 5: could he have two wives?

973
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 6: Does the president have two wives?

974
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: He has a first and a second lady? I was like, baby,

975
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 3: oh my god, but.

976
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 5: That's not what it is, Okay, you know, so I'm

977
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 5: good friends there, got great friends within the President's office there,

978
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 5: and it's just amazing to me the things that come

979
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 5: out of Healy's mouth. I'm like, I'm over there with

980
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 5: you know, badass Boza. You know, Bosa is like you know,

981
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 5: like she's one of the best amazing people you can

982
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 5: ever meet, hands down, I mean a marketing genius.

983
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 3: And I'm like, so happily, how do we get marketing genius?

984
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 5: You know the second wife of the or the vice

985
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 5: president's wife, and you know the deputy in the president's office.

986
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 3: To she going to kiya and sleeping with me or

987
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 3: try to find a man.

988
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 5: That don't sound right, that's not true.

989
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 6: You keep saying this about me.

990
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: So there's no africay, no, okay.

991
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 6: Not at all.

992
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 3: And in terms of who I go, listen, I have

993
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 3: friends everywhere. I really do.

994
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 5: Yes, She's right by saying, oh she hangs with the housewives,

995
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 5: I do.

996
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 2: I do.

997
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 3: There's some of those girls of some good, really good

998
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 3: friends of mine.

999
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 5: Drusidor or hit me up today and just sends so

1000
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 5: much love to me, Like sis, I love you so

1001
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 5: much and I want you to know that you know

1002
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 5: Portia has called me and was like, sins, this is

1003
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 5: this is gonna pass.

1004
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 3: But you know who you are. Don't lose who you are,

1005
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 3: you know, and just so much love.

1006
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 5: I have friends everywhere, but they're not the only people

1007
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 5: who have called me. I've had friends back from Memphis

1008
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,959
Speaker 5: ten who've called me. Friends you know in Detroit who's

1009
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 5: called me? You know, friends are friends to me. I'm

1010
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 5: not clocking if are you on TV? Or you know

1011
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 5: who are you?

1012
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 3: That's not me? You know, I just love what I love.

1013
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 5: I enjoy the people who enjoy me, who bring lefter

1014
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 5: into my life and who bring brings happiness into my life.

1015
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 5: And you know who's not trying to judge me, you know?

1016
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 5: And so I I what's wrong? And Yandy is a

1017
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 5: very good friend. Fact, Yandy and I go to Guana.

1018
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 3: All the time. But you know it's like sometimes the

1019
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 3: kids are with us and man, DC's is with us.

1020
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 6: And you know what I meant, I don't understand.

1021
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 3: Why did she say those things? I'm like, hey, what's

1022
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 3: wrong with you? Why are you saying these things? And

1023
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 3: the shit you're saying is not even true?

1024
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 6: What's wrong? What is it?

1025
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 3: Hev?

1026
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 5: Because I don't get it. Am I not allowed to

1027
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 5: have other friends?

1028
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 2: That's what it seems like, because they made a lot

1029
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 2: of things that transpired this season. Is the fact that

1030
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: they're saying, when you guys stop filming, you don't keep

1031
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: in contact with any of the girls.

1032
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 3: That's not true. That's an untrue statement.

1033
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 5: When we are not filming, I am in contact with

1034
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 5: those who want to be in contact with me. I

1035
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 5: believe that a relationship is not one sided.

1036
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 3: It's reciprocal. And that's what I believe. But just because I.

1037
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 5: Don't hear from them, I'm not, you know, nailing them

1038
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 5: to the cross.

1039
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 3: I figure, you know.

1040
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 5: They're busy, they are creating new businesses. You know, they

1041
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 5: may be traveling themselves. It's an opportunity for them to

1042
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 5: spend some time with their family, you know.

1043
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 3: And so I don't really get Oh, well, she didn't

1044
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 3: call us. Did you call me? Did you call me?

1045
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 5: Did you one time even think to pick up the

1046
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 5: phone and call me? If you saw my Instagram, then hey,

1047
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 5: maybe that made you think of me.

1048
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 3: Why didn't you call me?

1049
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: Because so off season you keep in touch with who

1050
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 2: heavenly heavenly.

1051
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 3: Jackie, are you talking about now? In the past. Are

1052
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 3: we talking about, Yeah.

1053
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 2: In the past, because they made it seem like that's

1054
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 2: just not your mother that you like ever.

1055
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: In life for the past couple of years.

1056
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 5: No, that's not been true for the past couple of years.

1057
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 5: I could definitely say it's been a little distant this

1058
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 5: year for sure.

1059
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 3: But when we left New York, I didn't feel like.

1060
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 5: There was bad blood between any of us outside of,

1061
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 5: you know, the situation between Toy and I, But I

1062
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 5: didn't feel that, you know, Simone and I were just

1063
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 5: in a bad place. Simone and I needed to talk

1064
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 5: about some things and reactivate our friendship.

1065
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 3: You know.

1066
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 5: I definitely didn't feel like anything was different between Heavenly

1067
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 5: and I didn't feel like anything was different between Jackie

1068
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 5: and I. You know, I just didn't understand why are

1069
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 5: we making it such a big deal that Quad has

1070
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 5: not called us. It should be a reciprocal thing. Did

1071
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 5: you ever call and check in on me?

1072
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 3: Mhm? I need that too, you know.

1073
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 5: And it's just disheartening that I, again, here, I am

1074
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 5: being held to a standard that they don't even have

1075
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 5: to meet the requirement.

1076
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1077
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: Before this season started, Carlos King exclusively reported.

1078
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 6: Let's get some work.

1079
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: You don't breaking downs the reality with the gig got

1080
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 2: you won't you want true tig. I want the reality

1081
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 2: with the King Child. If you want allegations and as

1082
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 2: subsection live, you know where to go.

1083
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: The AUTI aside. I was the first to confirm that phedra.

1084
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 5: Obviously I do want to add something else. I actually

1085
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 5: even had a conversation with Simon off off camera, you know.

1086
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 5: I said said, I I want to sit down with you.

1087
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 5: I want to talk to you and wet We met

1088
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 5: over at CNS, the one right here and you know,

1089
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 5: over in Sandy Springs, and I said, Simon, what have

1090
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 5: I done to you? Just tell me, I said, go

1091
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 5: back over the entire ten years. You don't have to

1092
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 5: speak hasty. You don't have to, you know, hurry up

1093
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 5: and vomit something up. I don't want that. I want

1094
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 5: the truth because if I've done something to you, I

1095
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 5: want to correct it.

1096
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 3: I want to correct that.

1097
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 5: And that was last year, I think, before we even

1098
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 5: went to the reunion, and she stopped for a moment

1099
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 5: and we were having a great deal.

1100
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 3: About a way.

1101
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 5: She had a couple of cottails. I had a couple

1102
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 5: of cottails. I think some Ostles was on the table too.

1103
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 5: We had a great time. It was like old times.

1104
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 5: And she literally said to me, you've not done anything

1105
01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 5: to me. And I said, hold on, really think about it. Whatever,

1106
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 5: anything that you can think of it, tell me now.

1107
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 5: And she said, no, you've not done anything to me.

1108
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 5: She said, you know, I go against you because I

1109
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 5: don't want Toya to.

1110
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 3: Be mad at me. Hmmm, straight like that.

1111
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: See, that's the alliance.

1112
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 2: I'll be telling people about that happens on these shows

1113
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: that they want to nail me to the cross for.

1114
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 2: I tell people that oftentimes on reality shows ensembles.

1115
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: There's Allian system.

1116
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm friends with you because I do like you,

1117
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 2: but let's be clear, I need somebody to have my back,

1118
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 2: and as a courtesy I gotta have I gotta have

1119
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 2: their back.

1120
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 6: And the thing it.

1121
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 3: Threw me off a little bit because I was like, damn, really.

1122
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 5: You've been going it's hard and I've not done anything

1123
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 5: to you, and it's just because you want a piece Toya.

1124
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 3: And that threw me a little bit.

1125
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 5: But I was like, well, Quaid, you and tim Own

1126
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 5: haven't been close in a number of years, so is

1127
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 5: it hard for you to can you try to understand

1128
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 5: where she could possibly be coming from and why. While

1129
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 5: I didn't like it, I could understand where she was coming.

1130
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 2: From because you understand how this works. You understand how

1131
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: this works. So we're getting into this current season. Before

1132
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 2: we started filming, I did report that Phedra was in

1133
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 2: conversations to join Mary to Medicine. At the time, it

1134
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 2: was rumors that your ex husband and at the time

1135
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 2: his Beyonce were joining the show, and some Brobo executives

1136
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 2: did an interview I believe it was Deadline or how

1137
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 2: one of the trades, and this executive said, this up

1138
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 2: coming season Amerti Medicine, we are going to again paraphrasing,

1139
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 2: but pretty much, it's going to be a refresh. It's

1140
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 2: gonna some people aren't coming back, some new people are joining,

1141
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: and some familiar faces. It was like, this upcoming season,

1142
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,439
Speaker 2: Maritive Medicine is about to knock your sock saw because

1143
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 2: we're throwing so many things at it. Because I've always

1144
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 2: said this.

1145
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: For years, no one listened to me until now. I've

1146
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,479
Speaker 1: always said, Brav, I'm sorry.

1147
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 2: I've always said that Maritime Medicine is the best cham

1148
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 2: Brav of that y'all not watching it's been It's been

1149
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: consistently great. I have never seen an off season like, well, damn, y'all,

1150
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 2: it's always been great, ten years strong, and not a

1151
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 2: lot of shelves can say that.

1152
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: So kudos to you guys for that.

1153
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 2: Before you guys started filming, you wanted to renegotiate your contract,

1154
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 2: I said, on my life, but believe that anytime a

1155
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 2: star knows their worth, I'm an advocate for bitch, get

1156
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 2: what you deserved. I said, if I was in quas shoes,

1157
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 2: and I've been on this show for nine years, and

1158
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 2: you're bringing back my ex husband and his next Clearly

1159
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 2: you're only bringing them back because I'm around. It's the

1160
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 2: only way it makes sense. And that's why I like

1161
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 2: having these real conversations because as a producer, I even

1162
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 2: know what time it is. You're a smart, educated woman.

1163
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: You knew what time it was, and you felt like

1164
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 2: if I again I putting words in your mouth, but

1165
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 2: I'm assuming you felt like, huh, okay, yesterday's price ain't

1166
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 2: today's price. And I will be mad at you, be

1167
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 2: mad at me if I want to. I will be

1168
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: mad at you if you didn't do what you did.

1169
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 9: Period point of blank But before we get into the

1170
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 9: the guttation part, did you have a receiver courtesy call that, hey,

1171
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 9: we're in talks with your ex husband and his next

1172
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 9: to come back to the show.

1173
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 3: No.

1174
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 5: Never, No one ever calls me. No one ever said,

1175
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 5: you know, what do you think about this idea. No

1176
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 5: one ever said, well, we're thinking about reaching out to them.

1177
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 5: No one ever said, you know, we know the turbulent

1178
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 5: marriage and how the things went, you know, but we

1179
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 5: still think that this is going.

1180
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 3: To be a good idea for the show.

1181
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 5: So we just want to give you a heads up

1182
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 5: we're probably gonna look to bring your ex husband and

1183
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 5: his new love interests on the show.

1184
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 3: No, not at all. I had to learn that, like

1185
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 3: on social media, Like why.

1186
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 2: You found out your ex husband was coming back to

1187
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 2: the show through social media?

1188
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 3: No one calls me. I have no text messages, I

1189
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 3: have no calls. I have none of that.

1190
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 5: I began to put two and two together when I

1191
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 5: saw like a lot of the some of the ladies

1192
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 5: kind of hanging out with them, you know, and I

1193
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 5: was like, oh, Okay, I see what this is. And

1194
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 5: I think there was a cryptic message under one of their.

1195
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 3: Posts.

1196
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 5: I think it could have been Simon and something by

1197
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,959
Speaker 5: hanging out and talking a lot of something or something

1198
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 5: stay tuned for me or to me, it's something. And

1199
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 5: I said, oh, oh, I see what this is. I

1200
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 5: see exactly what this is.

1201
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 1: Wow.

1202
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 5: Wow, yeah, been on the show, been you know, been

1203
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 5: here since Conception said that before. I said that, I

1204
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 5: think heavenly and I one time I had alive or

1205
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 5: something and I was like, I felt disrespected, not even

1206
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 5: a courtesy call. Didn't care how I would feel, didn't

1207
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:18,600
Speaker 5: care you know, are you even ready for that?

1208
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 3: Quad? Like, is this going to be some form of

1209
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 3: a trigger for you? Like nothing, crickets?

1210
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: Did you cry? I?

1211
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 3: I was perplexed.

1212
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 5: I was confused. I felt like, why why would you

1213
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 5: be so cruel towards me? Is what I felt like?

1214
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 5: Why would you not even lend me a courtesy just

1215
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 5: a phone call? I like to think that over the year,

1216
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 5: you know, I enjoyed married to medicine. There's been some tough, tough, tough,

1217
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 5: tough times for.

1218
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 3: Me on the show, but they have become my family.

1219
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 5: You can't be with a group of people for ten

1220
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 5: years and not have some emotional tie to them, you know.

1221
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 3: And I just felt like, did I mean anything, do

1222
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 3: you all anything? You couldn't have called me.

1223
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 5: You couldn't have just flew in town and sat down

1224
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 5: with me and kind of just.

1225
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 3: Had a conversation with me.

1226
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 5: Did you, for one moment take your producer's head off

1227
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 5: and just put on your had of humanity? I wasn't

1228
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 5: given that courtesy.

1229
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: So then you started to work on renegotiating your contract.

1230
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 2: And allegedly missed out on four to five weeks of filming.

1231
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 2: Five weeks of filming due to negotiating. When I learned that,

1232
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 2: I went in, my cloth is my protein shape, my cloth,

1233
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 2: and child have my protein shake before I workout, And

1234
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know if you saw this video

1235
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 2: that I did.

1236
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 1: I did a video and I said, y'all.

1237
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:41,799
Speaker 2: Filming for five weeks without miss Squad, y'all brought Phaser back,

1238
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 2: y'all bringing her X and his next and we don't

1239
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 2: have Quad. Y'all gonna tell me, y'all want me to

1240
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 2: tune in to next season without seeing the eff center

1241
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 2: of that storyline.

1242
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 1: And I did a mock phone call and I said.

1243
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: This was the producer's calling Quad because at this time

1244
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 2: I think you closed on your deal. This is like

1245
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 2: five weeks into okay, and I said, they called and said, look, bitch,

1246
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 2: it's five weeks and nothing's going on.

1247
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: What do we need to do? What is going on here?

1248
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 2: We need to bring her back because clearly our negotiating power.

1249
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: Has has has has ended. She's serious about that.

1250
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 2: Was this a strenuous process of you trying to get

1251
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 2: what you felt was fair due to the circumstances.

1252
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, first of all, I don't negotiate with people,

1253
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 5: and in terms of I'm not verbal, you know, I

1254
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 5: have an agent who handles all of that for me,

1255
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 5: you know, and then there's a you know, a legal

1256
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 5: team there, there's an agent, and then they kind of

1257
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 5: go back and forward with the network and.

1258
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 3: You know here and there.

1259
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 5: So I'm not in the minutia of all of that.

1260
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 5: I trust my agent to do the right thing by me.

1261
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 5: I trust him to fight for me. I trust him

1262
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 5: to present things to show my value and to show

1263
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 5: my worth, uh, to paint that picture. And that's kind

1264
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 5: of what happened this this season. I did feel that,

1265
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 5: you know, the writing was on the while it was

1266
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 5: supposed to be this whole trio of you know this,

1267
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 5: I guess pulling a tug in for doctor G or

1268
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 5: you know, you know, how is Quie gonna respond? Is

1269
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 5: this gonna evoke any emotion from her? Is she gonna

1270
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 5: be jealous? Is she gonna be mad? Is she you know,

1271
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 5: gonna you know, is it gonna be some form of

1272
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 5: a fight or some form of a debacle?

1273
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 3: You know, And you know, it just wasn't that. It

1274
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 3: wasn't It wasn't that.

1275
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 5: But I think that was the idea in bringing them on.

1276
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 5: You know, did I think that people were running around,

1277
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 5: you know, looking for doctor G and whoever his next

1278
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 5: woman was.

1279
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily think that that was an.

1280
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 5: I'll call there for that, But I think that the

1281
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 5: agenda behind.

1282
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 3: It was to see if it could.

1283
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 5: Get my panties in a bunch and get me all

1284
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 5: rolled up, and you know.

1285
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 3: That will be a thing, you know, for the show.

1286
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 2: Are you were you satisfied with the agreement that you

1287
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 2: your ages and your lawyers made for you to return?

1288
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: Were you were you? Were you satisfied with it or

1289
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: or not?

1290
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 3: Well?

1291
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 5: I like to think that I felt like, because they

1292
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 5: were coming on board, that other concessions could have been

1293
01:13:55,600 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 5: made and should have been made. Right, you know, we've

1294
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 5: had other situations to kind of happen on the show,

1295
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 5: But I didn't see anyone else bringing any other mistresses

1296
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 5: on the show.

1297
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 3: I didn't see that. But I did see.

1298
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 5: My ex husband and his new now wife brought on

1299
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 5: the show with no problem. And I think for me,

1300
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 5: it's about where's the respect for me?

1301
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 3: Have I not lend my contribution to the show.

1302
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 5: Have I not brought some value or some work to

1303
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 5: the show. Have I not advocated for the show? Why

1304
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 5: am I being just take what we're gonna give you,

1305
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 5: and Yeah, we're gonna put these people in front of

1306
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 5: your face and you're gonna smile bearing grand behind.

1307
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: Were you satisfied with the terms?

1308
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 3: No? I think things could have been a lot better.

1309
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, Phaedra came back and made a comeback American Medicine.

1310
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: Me along with the fans were like, this is the

1311
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 1: new freaking fact.

1312
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 2: We were excited. We were reminded of a clip of

1313
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 2: you and Phedra when she appeared in American Medicine. You know,

1314
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 2: you guys have this good whim's called funk girlfriend relationship.

1315
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 1: How did you find out Faedra was coming back to

1316
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: the show.

1317
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 5: Well, I had I had been talking to Phaedria too,

1318
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 5: but because I mean, our relationship has been long standing,

1319
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 5: you know, I didn't care who in Atlanta was not

1320
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 5: friends with Phaedra and who told me not to be

1321
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 5: a friend or to watch her or she's this and.

1322
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: She people say that to you all the time. They

1323
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: said to watch Phaedra.

1324
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, with your eyes and another pair too. But I

1325
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 5: never felt like that about Fia. I never felt like that.

1326
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 5: The energy between phag and I had always been good.

1327
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 5: We've always been really cool, you know. And so I

1328
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, I hear you all, but you know,

1329
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 5: she's all right with me, and I can be your

1330
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 5: friend and her friend too. I'm not gonna not be

1331
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 5: this person's friend because maybe some things are going on

1332
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 5: with some people. You know, we no mutual people, right,

1333
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 5: So I did hear that. You know, she was saying

1334
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 5: that she was dating a doctor.

1335
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:33,679
Speaker 1: Have you met him?

1336
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 3: I have not.

1337
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 1: Have you seen a face time? No a picture.

1338
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 5: I saw the picture that was on the show with

1339
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 5: the Mulji face on it, but I've not seen like

1340
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 5: a picture on the phone or if her and I

1341
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 5: may have been sitting next to each other. No, I'm

1342
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 5: not What I will say, is we the ladies of

1343
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 5: married to medicine had never seen him yet.

1344
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 3: Okay mmmmm yeah.

1345
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 5: And so so basically I heard that, you know, she

1346
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,679
Speaker 5: was dating a doctor. And then you know, uh, Matthew

1347
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 5: Anderson and I began to have conversations.

1348
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 3: Of course, he knows that, uh we.

1349
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 5: Were friends and her Phaser and I have been cool

1350
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 5: for a long time. And actually that connection did come

1351
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 5: through my ex husband, to be honest with you, and uh,

1352
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 5: she knew me and really didn't know many of the

1353
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 5: other girls, like none really you know, knew of them,

1354
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,799
Speaker 5: but not personal relationships with them. So of course Matthew

1355
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 5: and I had conversations and it's like, you know, he

1356
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 5: told me a little bit more about you know, possibly

1357
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 5: bringing Phaser on board. I thought that it was a

1358
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 5: great idea. You know, I think Phaser understands television. You know, yeah,

1359
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 5: she understands it.

1360
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 3: And so you know, he was like, you know, let's

1361
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 3: let's work on this, and I said, let's do it,

1362
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 3: you know.

1363
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 5: And so I was asked to participate in her process

1364
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,759
Speaker 5: of coming on board, and I did like an audition,

1365
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 5: you know, on behalf of her and spoke very high

1366
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 5: audition you know, you send in a tape, and I

1367
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 5: said in my office, and you know, there was a

1368
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 5: line of questions that.

1369
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 1: Was presented to me. You had a camera and you

1370
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: pressed the recorba in yeah.

1371
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 3: Like so it was the casting person. Uh huh. And

1372
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 3: then you know she just zoomed me. We had a

1373
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:25,799
Speaker 3: zoom meeting.

1374
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 5: And then there was a number of questions that was

1375
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 5: asked in respect to myself and phase or in our relationship.

1376
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 5: And yeah, I answered the questions and I told them,

1377
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 5: you know how I really felt about her, that she

1378
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 5: was great for TV, and you know, her and I

1379
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 5: have a great relationship. She's really cool and it's fun

1380
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 5: and you know, really want a better watch out because

1381
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 5: the chocolate Girl's coming through and you know, yeah, that's

1382
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 5: all recorded.

1383
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 3: That's all recorded, and so.

1384
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 5: I really I was happy to hear it and really

1385
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 5: even more happy to help bring her on board.

1386
01:18:59,320 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 3: You know.

1387
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:01,799
Speaker 1: So could you advocated for Phedro?

1388
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 2: Oh?

1389
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 3: Certainly that was easy.

1390
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 5: That was very easy for me to do because I

1391
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 5: wanted to see her back on television. I thought she

1392
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 5: was always great for TV. I mean, what it had

1393
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 5: been maybe five years that we had not seen her

1394
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 5: on a show consistently, and I just felt like you know,

1395
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 5: we're good. Her and I are great, So I didn't

1396
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 5: see a reason for me not to advocate for her.

1397
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 2: So when you advocated for Phedra to get on the show,

1398
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 2: how did you feel in these past two episodes when

1399
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 2: you guys were at the table, And from what I saw,

1400
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 2: it appeared she did not want.

1401
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 1: Advocate for you.

1402
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 5: At the table. The table scene was horrible. Across the board,

1403
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 5: across the board, the table.

1404
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 3: Seine was horrible. And to learn that she had.

1405
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 5: Changed her airline ticket, I'm like, that's not what you

1406
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 5: told me.

1407
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 3: You know.

1408
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 5: I text you like, Hey, I'm at the airport, No,

1409
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 5: what's up, what's going on?

1410
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 3: Where are you?

1411
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 5: And she's like, oh, I'm running around, girl, I'm at

1412
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 5: the drug store. I'm running around at the drug store.

1413
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 5: You know I'll be there something along those lines.

1414
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 3: I do have the text messages. And so for me

1415
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 3: to later on here that.

1416
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 5: She basically changed her flight because she didn't want to

1417
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 5: be around me or maybe wanted to go along.

1418
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 3: To get along, that was devastating. I didn't understand why

1419
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 3: she would do that.

1420
01:20:56,000 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 2: I watched those two episodes and and I was so

1421
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,759
Speaker 2: confused because from episode one and let me tell you something.

1422
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 2: This is coming from a person who produces shows, creates it.

1423
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 1: Watched the edit, all that stuff.

1424
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 2: I don't know anybody that can miss five weeks of

1425
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 2: work negotiating, and then the first episode, second, third, or

1426
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 2: fifty six seven eight, because.

1427
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 1: You you you for the audience. Every week and a half,

1428
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 1: you're taking an episode.

1429
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, every week at Les Yeah, week week and a half.

1430
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,560
Speaker 2: You're in the episode, taking off your draws, hopping in

1431
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 2: the bath to a baby. I mean, but you're in

1432
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 2: the first episode. And again, I'm such a fan of

1433
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 2: the show that I was like, oh my god, the

1434
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 2: new freaking I'm.

1435
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 1: Gonna see this.

1436
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 2: And we saw y'all friendship. We even saw it at

1437
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 2: the funeral home and you came off the casket, honey,

1438
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 2: with a resurrection like it was Easta. You know, it

1439
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,679
Speaker 2: was giving very much Easter Sunday, Honey, Bryan.

1440
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 9: You know, we loved it.

1441
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 2: It was even from our batcher's point, as if view

1442
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 2: were every single episode was fed your quad, fed your quad?

1443
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 1: What you got big?

1444
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 7: I got that big?

1445
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

1446
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 2: And it was like the next episode after that, it

1447
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 2: was like instantly we saw her not even utter a

1448
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 2: word in your defense and It was shocking to us.

1449
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 5: It was almost like someone had told them, like, go

1450
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 5: with the girl for Quad Gopher Quad.

1451
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 3: She's the target. Isolate her.

1452
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 2: Heavily said in My Life that there was a lot

1453
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 2: that was cut out that you and Toya almost got

1454
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 2: into a fist fight at the funeral home.

1455
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 5: We did not almost get into a fist fight at

1456
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 5: a funeral home down down to the walkins.

1457
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 3: We did not.

1458
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 5: Was there a heated discussion, Yes, we had a heated discussion.

1459
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 5: They had Toy and I sitting right next to one another,

1460
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 5: as you can see if you go back and look

1461
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 5: at that episode.

1462
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 3: But we were not about to fight. We did not

1463
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 3: even get.

1464
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 5: Up and stand up like and walk up against each

1465
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 5: other like.

1466
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 3: What's t and heavenly.

1467
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, but there were words spoken passionately, Yes there were.

1468
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 2: And then she's intimated that you make comments about I'm

1469
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 2: here to get my check, I'm in for my check,

1470
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 2: fuck you bitches.

1471
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 5: Well I never said fuck you bitches, okay at all,

1472
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 5: But when you know that someone doesn't like you, like,

1473
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 5: how did if we go back into the episode and

1474
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 5: was like, oh, we can quit stay with you?

1475
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 3: Can she stay with you? Can she stay with you?

1476
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 2: Oh?

1477
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 3: I'm not getting her room. Did she stay with you? Can?

1478
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 3: She say?

1479
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 5: And it was it was I was made a mockery up,

1480
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 5: and it was like no one wanted to room with me,

1481
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 5: you know, and oh what Fader said, she wished she

1482
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 5: doesn't wish to stay to stay with you, Jackie said,

1483
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 5: now with eight o's and all of that, and all

1484
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 5: of that was made to kind of make me feel

1485
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 5: left out or make me feel unwanted, you know.

1486
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 3: And so that was the beginning of like, oh, I

1487
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 3: see what this is.

1488
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 5: And there were some things that did happen at the

1489
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 5: Resurrection where Heavenly, I think Toya had gotten into it

1490
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 5: with Alicia and said some things, made some allegations against

1491
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 5: Alicia's husband and his practice or something, and uh, there

1492
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:56,600
Speaker 5: was a conversation after that over the phone where I

1493
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 5: thought it was just personal between Vader and I, and

1494
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 5: she was saying that, you know, this is.

1495
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:05,799
Speaker 3: A bunch of ninja s h I t and if I,

1496
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 3: you know, I don't want to be a part of that.

1497
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 5: And and I would say, well, you know, we're we're

1498
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 5: good over here. I mean, you know, the house the

1499
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 5: housewives you know, were I'm sure a lot tougher you know,

1500
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 5: like Phedra, like, seriously, this is this is but this

1501
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 5: is this is easy for you here.

1502
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 2: Picking daisies off of the vines.

1503
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 3: Nor were you blowing out dandelion.

1504
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 5: So so so anyway, I just thought that truly was

1505
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 5: like a personal conversation between us, just her and I,

1506
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 5: And then later on Heavily and I spoke, and I'm

1507
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:48,679
Speaker 5: learning that she told Heavenly and Simon and maybe.

1508
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 3: Even had a couple of others.

1509
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 5: Anyway, it got around to the girls, and some of

1510
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 5: the girls were offended by her saying this is some

1511
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 5: ninja shit and she didn't want to be a part

1512
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 5: of If it was going to continue to go like that,

1513
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 5: then you would rather just be continue to do her

1514
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 5: one off shows like Ultimate Girl's Trip and things of

1515
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:09,600
Speaker 5: that nature. And in that I remember Heavenly and I speaking,

1516
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 5: and Heavenly said something along the lines, well, she just

1517
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:17,600
Speaker 5: got afraid when Toya started going off on you know,

1518
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 5: Alisha and making those allegations against Alicia, and she said,

1519
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, Phraser got scared, and I

1520
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 5: was said, what do you mean? And you know, she's like,

1521
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 5: but Frasier, you know, Phaser was a liar, and this

1522
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 5: and the other. I said, what, you know, what, what's

1523
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 5: you lie about?

1524
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 2: You know?

1525
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 5: She? Are you talking about her not knowing how many

1526
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,639
Speaker 5: months pregnant she was? Because that's what I remember at

1527
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 5: that time, you know that. My brain kind of went

1528
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 5: to that. And then Heavenly was like, because I read

1529
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,679
Speaker 5: the book. I read the book that Angela Statton wrote,

1530
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, and I.

1531
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 3: Was like, who's that you know?

1532
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 5: Because all of that to me, it was just completely

1533
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 5: like I thought about the pregnancy, right, And so with

1534
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 5: that there was conversation. I was like, oh, okay, so

1535
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 5: whoa And so then that was kind of like the

1536
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 5: end of the conversation. So later on, when I see that,

1537
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 5: Fadra says that Heavenly told her that I was talking

1538
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 5: about her. I wasn't talking about Phaedra. Why would I

1539
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 5: bring her or help her get on the show to

1540
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 5: turn around and talk about her.

1541
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 3: I did not do that.

1542
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 5: What I thought when Heavenly said something about her lying

1543
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 5: being a liar, I automatically went to the fact that

1544
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 5: she did not remember how many months pregnant she was

1545
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:29,919
Speaker 5: and maybe she did that due to her religion.

1546
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 3: That's what I said, And then.

1547
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 5: Everything else kind of trickled or rolled out from Heavenly,

1548
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,639
Speaker 5: but apparently I don't know if Heavenly ever told her

1549
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 5: what she had said in reference to it. I just

1550
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 5: remember saying, that's what I said. You understand what I'm saying.

1551
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 5: And so it was interesting that Fader didn't even call

1552
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 5: me and say, hey, you know, were.

1553
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 3: You talking about me? That you say anything about me?

1554
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 5: You know, like or you know, I feel like, you know,

1555
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 5: there's some things we need to talk about because I'm

1556
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 5: feel in a certain type of way and for that,

1557
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 5: I'm not.

1558
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 3: Gonna take the flight with you.

1559
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 5: Instead, you told me you was running around and getting

1560
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 5: some last many things and shopping at the.

1561
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 3: Local pharmacy.

1562
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:16,520
Speaker 1: Walgreens for CBS.

1563
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 3: Maybe I think it was right.

1564
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 2: I had.

1565
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 5: I literally I have, I have. I can't make it up.

1566
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 5: I can't make it up. I can't make it up.

1567
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 2: I know you can't got understand.

1568
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:38,680
Speaker 5: I know.

1569
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 2: Let's just say that of that surprises me. What did

1570
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 2: surprised me though, is this. I felt that there was

1571
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 2: this army.

1572
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 1: Of people.

1573
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 2: Trying to kick you off the show, and that there

1574
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 2: was a mission that when she gets to San Francisco,

1575
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 2: the mission is to get her off the show. And

1576
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 2: again I'm only basically means off what I've seen because.

1577
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm a viewer.

1578
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 2: You were so humble to me in your conversations with

1579
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 2: the girls, even when you walked in your lime green

1580
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 2: honey outfit back. But baby, that lime green was it

1581
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 2: was baby in all the right places.

1582
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 3: I saw it too.

1583
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 5: Damn miss what you're telling girl, Oh, I said, my god,

1584
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 5: God God, I loved.

1585
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 1: I had an appetype of oysters.

1586
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 3: I did pearls.

1587
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 8: Okay, So when I saw you walk in and my

1588
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 8: good de choice is told you I gave you the

1589
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 8: desk there, baby, I was.

1590
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 2: Like, okay, we know' had an issue at the resurrection,

1591
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,839
Speaker 2: but I always bought that took bad As a girls,

1592
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 2: y'all always know how to break it back. You'll always

1593
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 2: do how to bring it back. So I never take

1594
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 2: things y'all say deeply in terms of like it's forever ruin.

1595
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 2: It's like, don't work the way back back together. It's

1596
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 2: all good. But I saw that, and like you said,

1597
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to room with her.

1598
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: Boom boom boone the room key.

1599
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:27,759
Speaker 2: So I saw all these things happening, and you're like, okay,

1600
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 2: I mean I got money.

1601
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 1: I can get my own room if that's if that's

1602
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:31,680
Speaker 1: an issue. But I'm here to support you.

1603
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 2: Even when you sat down the tample, you said, look,

1604
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 2: Toya Au drops aside as a black.

1605
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 1: Woman in winery. This is amazing. Congratulations. I love that.

1606
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 2: I told Heavenly, I said, if that was a mission to.

1607
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 1: Get her off the show, y'all should.

1608
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 2: Have said, aboard, aboard a board, the bitch is coming

1609
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 2: in humble guys, we're going on board.

1610
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 3: Mission eighty six.

1611
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 2: This this, this beat on the sheet because we are

1612
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 2: not going to have a pomposa.

1613
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: And and and the reason why me and.

1614
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 2: The audience felt that energy is because everybody's face was

1615
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 2: still like.

1616
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 1: Determined. And then it felt like Heavenly.

1617
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 2: Had to say something. And when she said, well you

1618
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 2: use me, what did she mean by that? Because we

1619
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 2: never felt that you were using her. But I want

1620
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 2: to be able to were you surprised to hear that?

1621
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:39,639
Speaker 5: Well, you just hite me with a whole Sorry, now,

1622
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 5: it's just that's very loaded, very loaded. So I'm going

1623
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 5: to try to take it in part. When James Knox

1624
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 5: asked me to come out to to Napa Valley, and

1625
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 5: I knew that it was for Toya. You know, but

1626
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 5: I'm always he in a position of it doesn't matter

1627
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 5: what you're going through with the person. If this woman

1628
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 5: is doing something he or she, If a person is

1629
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 5: doing something that should be supported, then you get there

1630
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 5: and you support it.

1631
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 3: And I know how through the years Toya.

1632
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 5: Has been kind of pegged as the person who doesn't

1633
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 5: really do anything. You know, all she does is sit

1634
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 5: back and spend the money, and you know, spend Eugene's money,

1635
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:39,759
Speaker 5: and all of that has been.

1636
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 3: Said throughout the years about Toya.

1637
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 5: I was really happy that Toya had made a connection

1638
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 5: where she could now have a wine club to present

1639
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 5: a list of wines, to say, hey, if you purchase

1640
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 5: this under my code, then you get this discount, and

1641
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 5: then that will be an additional revenue stream for her.

1642
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 5: I can remember talking to Toya years ago, years ago

1643
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 5: on her and I. We were cool and we were

1644
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 5: on the phone and we were talking about you know,

1645
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 5: other things we can do, you know, extending the brands,

1646
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 5: and you know, I think at that time I was

1647
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 5: working with like picture Perfect Puff or something, and I

1648
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 5: said to her, well, Toya, what do you like Let's

1649
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 5: stop right here and just think about the things You're like,

1650
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 5: what do you like to do?

1651
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 3: And she was like, oh no, I mean I don't

1652
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 3: know what I like to do.

1653
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 5: And this is a phone call and I could You

1654
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 5: can hear her thinking and then she says, well, I

1655
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 5: like being a mom.

1656
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,720
Speaker 3: And I said, that's good. That's a real good one.

1657
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 5: I said, come up, I said, think about some of

1658
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 5: the challenges that maybe your sons have had, you know,

1659
01:33:57,439 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 5: or maybe you know their friends have had, or even

1660
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 5: you as a mother, think about some of those things,

1661
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 5: those challenges.

1662
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 3: That you had have had or they have had.

1663
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 5: And what can you create, no matter if it's a device,

1664
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,679
Speaker 5: if it's some form of a method to be sold,

1665
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 5: whatever it is, what can you create that could actually

1666
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 5: be some form of a mechanism to help the kids

1667
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 5: be easier on the moms while still.

1668
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 3: Being able to earn you an additional income. What does

1669
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 3: that look like? I don't know.

1670
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,760
Speaker 5: You should probably research it, but that may be a

1671
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,920
Speaker 5: good place for you to start. And this was a

1672
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 5: one on one personal conversation, wasn't filmed. It was just

1673
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 5: two people on the phone who liked each other at

1674
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 5: the time, two people on the phone who got along,

1675
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 5: two people on the phone who were cool, and I

1676
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 5: stopped for moments of this brainstorm, so to see that happening,

1677
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 5: maybe if a sold I mean season one, maybe between

1678
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 5: season one and season two or something like that, or

1679
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 5: maybe earlier on in our seasons. I can't really remember,

1680
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 5: because I know that people like hold me to it

1681
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 5: let me I was, but.

1682
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:11,719
Speaker 3: I can't remember.

1683
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:14,639
Speaker 5: But it was an earlier on, earlier years in the show.

1684
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 5: And I remember having that phone conversation with her, and

1685
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 5: to see that, you know, eight years later, nine years later,

1686
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 5: she's now able to have something of her own, it

1687
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 5: pleads me. And I was very happy for her. And

1688
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 5: I was more than eager and happy to support her

1689
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 5: because I know what that meant for her.

1690
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 3: But I did not.

1691
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 5: Know that I was going to be pretty much ambushed

1692
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 5: on that trip. I had no idea that that was

1693
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 5: going to happen when we left the Resurrection, truly, I thought,

1694
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 5: because I went through each one of them, Jackie, you know,

1695
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:03,639
Speaker 5: are you ready to bury the strife? Jackie said, no strife,

1696
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 5: you know, heavinly said she didn't have an issue with anyone,

1697
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:08,719
Speaker 5: then started in on sweet Tea, and you know, of course,

1698
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 5: Phaser and I were cool and in a good place

1699
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:13,679
Speaker 5: I did not know Alicia very much. Was eager to

1700
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 5: get to know her, you know, wanting to get to

1701
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 5: know her, thinking I had more time to get to

1702
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 5: know her. Now her and I have had conversations of

1703
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:22,879
Speaker 5: course off you know, off off record and off the cameras,

1704
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 5: you know, so I'm still getting to know her. And

1705
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 5: then of course, you know, sweet tea, it's sweet tea,

1706
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:33,640
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, there's a you know, I

1707
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:37,640
Speaker 5: think her husband is probably gonna trying to keep that

1708
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 5: wedge between the two of us.

1709
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:40,880
Speaker 1: You don't mind getting to know.

1710
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 5: Her, No, not necessarily, I don't mind, Okay, No, I mean, listen,

1711
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 5: how I look at that particular situation is but it's

1712
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 5: been what five years, five and a half years, maybe

1713
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 5: close to six. Now you're supposed to find love again.

1714
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 5: You're supposed to find happiness again. You're supposed to if

1715
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 5: you be able to enjoy your life, whatever that looks like.

1716
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 5: You know, for him, it's remarrying, right you know, right now.

1717
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 5: For me, it's traveling and seeing life and meeting different

1718
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 5: cultures and you know, seeing what the world has out there.

1719
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 5: For me, it's no wrong way. Whatever your journey is

1720
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 5: to happiness, just get there, just get there. So I

1721
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 5: don't have animosity towards her. It wasn't like she cheated

1722
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:32,160
Speaker 5: with him, right right right. You know, this girl came

1723
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 5: meaning many years later, you know what I mean, So

1724
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:41,599
Speaker 5: it would be ridiculous for me to have something against

1725
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 5: her in reference to him. Now, she said some things

1726
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 5: thus far, and I'm sure the reunion will will deal

1727
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 5: with those things that she's said in reference to me,

1728
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:54,640
Speaker 5: But outside of that, in regards to him, I have

1729
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:55,559
Speaker 5: no problem with her.

1730
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 3: No. Now he on the other end, have is you know.

1731
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 3: But going back to.

1732
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:08,680
Speaker 5: That dinner, I just felt like, oh, this is a

1733
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 5: complete ambush.

1734
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 3: And I'm sitting here trying to.

1735
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 5: I'm trying to hear you all out, and I want

1736
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:23,679
Speaker 5: to hear you all out, and I'm listening and I'm

1737
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 5: keyed in, but I'm also wanting to have my voice heard,

1738
01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:33,600
Speaker 5: and at every single turn.

1739
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 3: They shut me down.

1740
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:38,519
Speaker 5: It's like if I wasn't saying what they wanted me

1741
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 5: to say, then they didn't want to hear it. And

1742
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 5: that was very disheartening. It was almost like everyone knew

1743
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 5: what was about to happen. Everyone was in on it

1744
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 5: except me.

1745
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 1: Now, That's what it felt like, and I felt like

1746
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:01,759
Speaker 1: I felt like there was a mission. And I'm not even.

1747
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 2: Gonna say necessarily from the girls, right, I don't know,

1748
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 2: because again I'm not there. But in their defense, it

1749
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 2: just seemed like everybody was like, we're in on it.

1750
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 1: And I think Faedra even knew.

1751
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 2: Which is why she was quiet as a church mouse

1752
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 2: and avoided flying on the same flight as you. I

1753
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 2: think everybody knew except you, but that these girls had

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Speaker 2: to do it because they're on camera, right, And I

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Speaker 2: have never seen you appear so hurt. I mean when

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01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 2: Simone gave you the blow, I literally.

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Speaker 1: Even the episode before that, I think I said this

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: I was like I couldn't sleep that night because it

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Speaker 2: felt mean, girlish, and that's never bring y'all show. Y'all

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Speaker 2: show has never been about like we're gonna ice one out.

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Speaker 2: It's just never that. So when I saw it, I

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Speaker 2: was like, this seems weird, and it wasn't. I felt

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Speaker 2: bad for you, of course, also felt bad for the collective,

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Speaker 2: like what are we doing here? And then when I

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Speaker 2: saw someone deliver the blow to you, like we don't

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Speaker 2: want you here, we want you to go home?

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Speaker 1: What I was.

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Speaker 2: Shaking and I saw you look sad, then we saw

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Speaker 2: you cry when you got back to your hotel room.

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Speaker 1: In that moment, though, qua did you feel like?

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Speaker 2: Did you feel embarrassed, hurt, disappointed?

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Speaker 1: For all of the above.

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