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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Drive.

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Speaker 1: I'm dale ally here with Matt Williamson and Matt that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go over the Steelers roster now as they

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Speaker 1: head into a head into training camp. And I want

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Speaker 1: to do this in a way that UM put your

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Speaker 1: your way back machine in use here and think about

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Speaker 1: where you felt about what you felt about that position

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Speaker 1: going into last year sixty five days ago, the Steelers

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Speaker 1: are getting ready to head to camp. Do you feel

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Speaker 1: better worse of the same about before? I like this exercise. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So we'll start with a wide receiver group. Got Juju

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Speaker 1: smiths you it's the same group that you had a

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Speaker 1: year ago. Jud Smith, Uster, Chase Claypool, James Washington, Rayray

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Speaker 1: McLeod um. You've got uh, Deonte Johnson. The other guys

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Speaker 1: on the roster, Isaiah McCoy, Rico Bussy, Cody White, Anthony Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Matthew Sexton, Tyler Simmons. Do you feel better, worse or

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Speaker 1: the same? Say better. I'm more confident now that Deonte

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Speaker 1: Johnson is number one ish you know, I mean a

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Speaker 1: workload target monster way more. It's happy about Claypool now

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Speaker 1: than then, although I will say you guys that were

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Speaker 1: at mini camps and stuff were like this Claypool guid

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Speaker 1: you know what, I see them alive. If you remember

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Speaker 1: last year, we're using the Pool reports on a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff. Chase Claypool's name popped up quite a bit

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Speaker 1: during the touchy stuff whatnot. Yeah, but so we were

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Speaker 1: very excited about Clayton. Score eleven of him last year

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Speaker 1: rookie right right, right. But I think I'm happier with

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Speaker 1: him now than I was then. At least you've seen

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Speaker 1: a year juju, I would say slightly less, But I

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Speaker 1: think we know what he is. I mean, he's a

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Speaker 1: high quality player. Washington is good. So yeah, I like

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Speaker 1: this group better than I did. And we we we

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Speaker 1: now know a little bit more about Raymond McLeod as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he was an unknown last year. At this

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Speaker 1: point you're like, Okay, he's just gotta be better than Switzer. Um, yes,

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Speaker 1: Switzer not being there. I think it's a positive, to

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Speaker 1: be honest with you. I mean, I'm not, you know,

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Speaker 1: huge on Raymory McLoud here, but he's better than Switzer.

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Speaker 1: Is there a sixth guy that I mean sometimes they

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Speaker 1: keep six one of those guys. I mean, we'll see

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Speaker 1: if we'll see if somebody emerges there. Somebody probably will. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, um, let's move on to the tight ends.

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Speaker 1: You got Er Brown, you got Pat Farmouth, you got

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Speaker 1: Zack Gentry, you got Dex Raymond, you got Kevin Rader.

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Speaker 1: It's honestly, it's that's the same group that they took

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Speaker 1: to camp last year. Was the exception. Pat Farmouth replaces

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Speaker 1: Vance McDonald, right, And like I kind of liked Raider.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about him a couple of times, and I

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Speaker 1: wonder if you'd have made the team. And Raymond has

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Speaker 1: been a guy that's been around, you know, so that's

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Speaker 1: status quo. Am I any Are you any higher or

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Speaker 1: lower on Ebron after one more year? Pretty much he

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Speaker 1: was who we thought he thought he was, kind of

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Speaker 1: how he's been through his whole career. He's a mismatch guy,

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Speaker 1: drops too many, not much of a blocker. Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: really excited about friar Muth. But do I think here's

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Speaker 1: a hard way of putting it. Do I think friar

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Speaker 1: Muth right now is better than what I thought Vance

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Speaker 1: McDonald was one year ago. You know, we kind of

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Speaker 1: knew McDonald's snaps were gonna He was coming off a

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Speaker 1: bad year in Yeah, where he wasn't used a lot,

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Speaker 1: and when he was used, he didn't you know he

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Speaker 1: was He had the Juju Smith Schuster roll where he

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Speaker 1: caught the you know, the eight yard passes. But I

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Speaker 1: was pretty optimistic about him a year ago too, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because he's not as optimistic as we were

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Speaker 1: going into and we thought he could be a Pro

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Speaker 1: but it's pretty close. It's pretty hasn't changed much at all,

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Speaker 1: You're right, I mean for Johnson or for McDonald. The

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Speaker 1: running backs you've got nausea, Harris, Benny Snell, Anthony McFarland,

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Speaker 1: Calin Belage, Derek Watt at fullback, Jalen Samuel's, Trey Edmonds.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you like it a lot better. I mean

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Speaker 1: the most is way better than anything we've seen since.

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Speaker 1: But they also added the veteran and belaged there as

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Speaker 1: and frankly I haven't said much about him. That is

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Speaker 1: very positive over his career, including when he got drafted.

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Speaker 1: But the more I think about him, he's very similar

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Speaker 1: when the dust settles. Something to keep an eye on. Um.

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Speaker 1: A year ago, called there was in the mix, and

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Speaker 1: put our way back caps on. It wasn't like this

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Speaker 1: guy's junk, we can't count on him at all. Um.

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Speaker 1: There was optimism around McFarland too, you know. I mean

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Speaker 1: it was a dynamic guy and would say things like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he was recruited as much as J. K. Dobbins in

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Speaker 1: that class, and they may have got a steal in

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Speaker 1: the mid rounds. But of course we like it better now. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that's to me clear clear win for this group.

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Speaker 1: Hate to the point where I like Snell and Samuel's

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Speaker 1: less than I did a year ago. Yeah, one of those,

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Speaker 1: at least one of those two guys isn't making this

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Speaker 1: ross right, right, right, And so I mean those two

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Speaker 1: because I don't see them cutting calein balage for the

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Speaker 1: reasons that you said, especially if he can help on specialty.

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Speaker 1: To me, they got the odd guy out was gonna

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Speaker 1: end up being Jaylen Samuels. Like you've you've gone with that.

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Speaker 1: He was drafted in he was a project at that point.

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Speaker 1: He was a fifth round draft pick. Um, He's had

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Speaker 1: one good game in the NFL. Right, that was the

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Speaker 1: Patriot game, right, and that came you know, Belichick was

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Speaker 1: a long time ago. Came a long time ago. The

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Speaker 1: thing with him, too, is if he's on the he's

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Speaker 1: a special player. He's a towel. Yeah, he's a specialty player.

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Speaker 1: And he's just not talented enough to be a specialty player.

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Speaker 1: Farland gets his snaps. I would rather have four or

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Speaker 1: five receivers, two tight ends, three or four running backs

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Speaker 1: on the field before him. You know, it's skill positions.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's your most most threatening skill position player. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we don't need that. Yeah, that doesn't get it done.

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Speaker 1: Whereas Benny snell to me, yeah, that it hasn't been

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Speaker 1: most positive things I say about Snow is I was

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Speaker 1: really impressed when he got I didn't like the pick,

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Speaker 1: better in protection, which he didn't do much in college

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Speaker 1: special teams, which he didn't do. So the fact that

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Speaker 1: he dedicated himself to what the you know, quote smaller things.

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Speaker 1: He's an actual running back, whereas Jalen Samuel's is not

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Speaker 1: right right right, Like if the Rams said we'll give

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Speaker 1: you a a fifth round pick, for Benny Snell. I would

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Speaker 1: I mean. And I'm sure that they can find better

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Speaker 1: options than that, but I could see, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: an NFL player. That's that's that was posed on Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Focus put out a list the guys who the

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Speaker 1: the Rams could trade for. They're not. First of all,

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Speaker 1: they have Darrel Henderson. Yeah, they've got their lead back.

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Speaker 1: Um and Snell was mentioned Darren and uh one of

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Speaker 1: the websites out there put out report that you know

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Speaker 1: the Rams are interested in Snell. Well, no, that's not

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Speaker 1: that's not a report. That's somebody's speculation. Any of us

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Speaker 1: tires on a report calling Kevin Colbert right now. That's

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Speaker 1: how bad rumors get started. Uh. Yeah, So I I

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Speaker 1: feel better about that position. Quarterback. You got Ben Roethlisberger,

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Speaker 1: Get Mason Rudolph, You've got Josh Dobbs, You've got Dwayne Haskins, Well, no,

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Speaker 1: Duck Hodges. Dwayne Haskins replaces Dock Hodges. You have to

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Speaker 1: be positive, you have to feel better about that. I

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Speaker 1: I think Dobbs has value too, by the way. You know,

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Speaker 1: Do I feel better or worse about Ben is the question.

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Speaker 1: I feel better, but I've seen him play here. We

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Speaker 1: we still hadn't seen him throw. Feeling nations just dancing

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Speaker 1: when Andrew Luck was always through a tennis ball and

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Speaker 1: out there that he's done or anything, everybody just forgets

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Speaker 1: that those first eleven games happened. You know, Oh he

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Speaker 1: was bad. He wasn't bad all year and our exercises.

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Speaker 1: What did you think of him when camp opened, Well,

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Speaker 1: we just hope that he wasn't that he could play, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that he could. You know, there were there were questions,

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and he's a year removed from that.

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Speaker 1: And I think you definitely have to feel better about Rudolph.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're coming off season where at one point,

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Speaker 1: you know, they felt better about Devil and Hodges going

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Speaker 1: feel better about where Rudolph is at now. This is

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a cop out for that exercise.

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Speaker 1: But unfortunately we didn't get four Rudolph preseason games last year,

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Speaker 1: or we might feel better or worse. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: McFarland always bring up to you. I liked what he

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Speaker 1: did against the Browns in the in the in the finale.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he can't look at that game ago, boy,

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Speaker 1: But he's not very good. I don't I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's getting worse. No, they don't either. I think he's

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Speaker 1: which contrary to national belief. And I think we can

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Speaker 1: use for this exercise, we can use help from others. Well,

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Speaker 1: they gave him money. They must like him more than

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Speaker 1: least they like him period. In Haskins versus Haskins versus

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Speaker 1: Duck Hodges. No offense to Duck Haigh, just absolutely And

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that season would have gone any

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Speaker 1: the Those are the groups that had the most changed,

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Speaker 1: the most turnover. You can't like them better now than

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Speaker 1: you did a year ago because they didn't the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: They added guys, but they lost a lot. In our

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Speaker 1: opinion of Pouncy and to Castro a year ago, we're

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Speaker 1: pretty darn high. Yeah, I mean you're talking about two

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Speaker 1: guys who you know, we're Pro Bowl slash all Pro

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Speaker 1: type players that aren't here anymore. Um, yeah, he can't

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Speaker 1: be as high, although I feel I feel better about

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Speaker 1: Cameron Sutton now he's great. When I liked what I

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Speaker 1: saw of him last year or two years ago, that

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Speaker 1: only increased. Yeah, you know, he's he's a good he's

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Speaker 1: a good football player. Where Lane's grade has not changed

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Speaker 1: for me at all, and we hadn't seen Lane no

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Speaker 1: going in that. I mean, it can't change because I

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Speaker 1: have no I know no more about him than I

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Speaker 1: did a year ago. I will say I didn't even

436
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Speaker 1: know who Pierre was a year ago, and he's undraft age.

437
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Speaker 1: So they did add you know that's better, but you

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Speaker 1: know he lost two starters. Yeah, it's gonna be. What

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Speaker 1: if they were to sign Nelson back. That's not happening.

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Speaker 1: You don't think that's happening. Not happening, No chance. Huh.

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Speaker 1: There's some people out there that are quote in the

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Speaker 1: know that think it's a baably that's you don't give

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Speaker 1: his number away if you're gonna resign. It's an odd situation.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of an instance where it did. And

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Speaker 1: that's Yeah, there's some number I kind of think about.

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Speaker 1: Uh was he twenty two? Right? He was? My mind

447
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Speaker 1: does people would be shocked how bad I am with

448
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Speaker 1: numbers When nag Harrick, he's not getting that back, he's

449
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Speaker 1: not getting I mean that's a small yeah, that that

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Speaker 1: could be worked around within a nice signing bonus. But

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Speaker 1: I would then take the corners now over then if

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Speaker 1: you added something, added him to the mix. How about

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Speaker 1: the safety position? You got Minka, you got Throll, Evans

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Speaker 1: behind them, even Antoine Brooks, Miles Killer Brew, Trey Norman, Donovan, Steiner,

455
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Speaker 1: Lamont Wade. I mean I liked Minka as much then

456
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Speaker 1: as now. I thought Evans had a good year last year.

457
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Speaker 1: But I liked them as much then as now. I

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Speaker 1: don't know it's gone up. I like the depth better

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Speaker 1: behind those guys now than I did last year. Trying

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Speaker 1: to think who was the third? Who are we? Who

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Speaker 1: are we talking? Dangerfield? Dangerfield? At this time exactly? Was

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Speaker 1: that true? They just drafted Brooks Marcus Allen at this

463
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Speaker 1: time last year was still a safety and didn't make

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Speaker 1: that move until they got to camp. It's pretty darn similar,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you. I mean Brooks is kind

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Speaker 1: of in. Brews played NFL snaps like defensive snaps. Take

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Speaker 1: killer brew over Dangerfield. Brooks got his feet went last year. Um,

468
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Speaker 1: and I think they have big plans for him going

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Speaker 1: to be in the mix, in the in the slot,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe even being the number two back Worth potentially

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Speaker 1: the number one slot cornerback, added Norwood to the mix. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I guess we call him a safety, right, Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they were that's where they were playing him,

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Speaker 1: So I like that better. Yeah, I don't feel as

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Speaker 1: I don't feel nearly as bad about their safety depth

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Speaker 1: as a lot of people seem to be. You know

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Speaker 1: that the people want to have to go shign Mali cooker.

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Speaker 1: Half two is a strong word. Yeah. I'd like the

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Speaker 1: ability to play three safeties more though. If Brooks is

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Speaker 1: your slot corner, um, my third safety wouldn't kill him.

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Speaker 1: But I guess I like it better. I know a

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Speaker 1: little more about Brooks, So he's only gone, His stock's

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Speaker 1: only risen. Losing danger Field doesn't change anything for me.

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Speaker 1: Probably you probably got better there value right, and Mink

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Speaker 1: and Edmans didn't go backwards, if anything, they went forward. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're still young players. We're sending. So I feel better

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Speaker 1: about that position. How about the specialists. Boswell, you know,

488
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Speaker 1: is now two years removed from THEE Yeah. I was

489
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Speaker 1: trying to think, so now that's truly the outlier. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had one bad year and oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the year he went on I

492
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Speaker 1: R for a hip flexor or. It was a growing

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Speaker 1: it was something kicking related. It wasn't a finger. Um.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Barry had what I thought was his best year

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Speaker 1: as a pro after they cut him. Yeah, and now

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Speaker 1: they've added a rookie to that. Uh, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna talk about long snappers. I feel actually, I

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Speaker 1: feel better about the return game too. Yeah, Blage may

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Speaker 1: be a return er to Belge could fit into that

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Speaker 1: as well. Um, but better. Yeah, I mean there would

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Speaker 1: be a punter. You would think You're punter group gets better.

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Speaker 1: Bos is a constant now and I think, like you said,

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Speaker 1: you have a bit more confidence that he really is

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Speaker 1: the player he's been for not career. Interesting move there

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Speaker 1: they brought in. See I'm Sloman who kicked in the

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Speaker 1: NFL last year. It wasn't bad for the Rams and Titans. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what to think of that one.

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Speaker 1: And usually if you understand why you're just gonna bring

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Speaker 1: in a camp like you just bringing in now, maybe

510
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Speaker 1: maybe this is just uh COVID situation or something like

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Speaker 1: an extra kicker on the practice quard. You know, we've

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Speaker 1: talked about that a lot last year, that it was

513
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Speaker 1: hard to find specialists to drop a half somebody gets hurt,

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Speaker 1: you know, the rules to get him into camp and

515
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Speaker 1: all that stuff. We're different. I mean, I couldn't believe

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Speaker 1: that bosses jobs in any jeopardy. I wouldn't think. But

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Speaker 1: but he's not cheap. I mean, I mean he's making

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Speaker 1: more than Sloman. Could he be a kickoff specialist be

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Speaker 1: shocked at to keep a rosters? Yeah, I wouldn't. I

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Speaker 1: don't see that happening. But I just thought that was

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Speaker 1: an interesting signing that we hadn't We hadn't really talked

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Speaker 1: a lot about. But this is this guy's was He

523
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Speaker 1: was a draft pick as a kicker. You don't usually

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Speaker 1: use draft picks on kickers unless you're gonna, you know,

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Speaker 1: keep them my hunches. They had a good grade on

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Speaker 1: him coming out of college and was shocked didn't have

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Speaker 1: a need for him, but they did draft Pressley Harvin there, Yeah,

528
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Speaker 1: leads you down that road. But I feel maybe Sloman

529
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Speaker 1: kicks all through preseason and someone offers you a six

530
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Speaker 1: round pick for him after that's happened, that somebody gets hurt. Oh,

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Speaker 1: this kid looks pretty good. He made all five of

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Speaker 1: his kicks for the Steelers. Okay, we'll give him a

533
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Speaker 1: seventh round draft pick for him a couple. Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: I can't believe bos won't be the kicker though. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think, but that is an odd move and there's

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Speaker 1: some method behind it. You don't just throw those roster

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Speaker 1: spit spots away. Yeah, but I feel better about that

538
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: group as a whole. I think, what if we did

539
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: core special teamers? Trying to think who that was, I

540
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Speaker 1: don't even know who. Yeah, at this point, they just

541
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Speaker 1: signed t J or Derek Watt to do that, and

542
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: he's still gonna do that, and he's still gonna do that. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, guys like I remember talking about it a

544
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Speaker 1: lot of a year ago. I was worried about it

545
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: because Matta cab Wage was gone, Hayward Bayard was gone.

546
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Speaker 1: They were counting on some young guys to do at

547
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Speaker 1: you know, the Gilberts and splings of the world. But

548
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: I think overall they all passed the test. Special teams

549
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: are pretty good, Like it was pretty good last year

550
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Speaker 1: they were, and they're five ish core special teamers I

551
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: think are decent right now. Yeah, I mean that's what

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00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,719
Speaker 1: Killer Brew is gonna do. That's what what's gonna do

553
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: this with some of these guys are gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: is Brooks going to be better at it? I mean

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00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: things like that. I'm not sure they have the wide

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Speaker 1: out that is the Hayward Bay type. Well, you don't

557
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: want to use Chase Claypool in that role anymore, no, right,

558
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Speaker 1: you know, I mean that's not really Washington's gig, you know,

559
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: and uh, what's his face? The the he's gonna tackle anybody,

560
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: but he's so maybe one of those that maybe that's

561
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Speaker 1: six guy that roster spot by being a core special

562
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: team because good type. Yeah, Isaiah McCoy or something like that.

563
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Speaker 1: You know, Hey, you're not gonna catch many passes, but

564
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: go down to tackle somebody. Yeah, But Danny Smith, both

565
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: of the rookies that they added, the undrafted guys McCoy

566
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: and and Bussy are both bigger receivers, bigger Buddy that's

567
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: a possible path to bakon the team as a sixth receiver,

568
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: and then you get a hat on game day and

569
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: then you know, yeah, we'll see. I mean we got

570
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: we got a month for them to figure all that out.

571
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Speaker 1: We got four preseason games this year just then to

572
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: figure those kind of things up. That's nice. Not far

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Speaker 1: away that games coming soon. Actually it will be two

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Speaker 1: weeks from tomorrow, from tomorrow, two weeks from tomorrow. Wow, yeah,

575
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: we're right into it. So but I'll be fun to

576
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Speaker 1: talk about how they're gonna allocate those snaps, Like I

577
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Speaker 1: don't expect to see nausey, No, I don't. Yeah that game,

578
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Speaker 1: you're not gonna see a lot, but you're gonna see

579
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Speaker 1: guys who are gonna make this roster. Oh yeah, I

580
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: mean Haskins is gonna play a lot behind the line

581
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Speaker 1: that probably doesn't stink be okay, you know, so interesting,

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Speaker 1: But that's gonna do it for this show. So for

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Speaker 1: my partner stuff to talk about. How about it from

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Speaker 1: my partner Matt Williamson for jacobreck here on site, keeping

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