1 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: A villa, Pennsylvania. 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: December sixth, twenty twenty, Jared Ackron woke to his home 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: completely engulfed in flames. 4 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 3: Nine one one response, what's your emergency? 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 4: I need a fire truck, sir. 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 3: Where are you located? If anyone hurt? 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 4: Are you hurting? No, everybody's okay, everybody's okay. We just 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 4: I just need somebody to put the fire out. I 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 4: need a fire truck over here right. 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 5: Now, sir. 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: I need you to give me all the details that 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 3: you can. 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 4: Calmly, No, nobody's hurt. Nobody's hurt I except for the 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 4: I just if you need. 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 3: A fire department, okay, we'll have units over to respond 16 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: to you shortly. 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 4: I don't think I'll ever forget that day of my 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 4: entire life. There was a huge cloud of black smoke 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 4: that engulfed me, and as soon as I opened that door, 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 4: I saw flames go up. Then I hear the window bust. 21 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: On that frigid December morning, Jared was having the worst 22 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: day of his life. 23 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: He'd watched his. 24 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: Childhood home burn to the ground along with all his possessions. 25 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 2: To make things worse, he and his wife, Christy were 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: expecting the birth of twins any moment. As Jared watched 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: the flames destroy his childhood home, he had no idea 28 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: that this was just the beginning of his nightmare. If anything, 29 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: in the coming days, things would get a whole lot worse. 30 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: Day were a picture perfect couple. Jared was a hardworking 31 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: farmer who loved nothing more than hunting and fishing on 32 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: the weekends. Christy was his opposite, lively, always chasing the 33 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: next adventure, mostly. 34 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: Through the lens of her phone. 35 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: Her life was a constant stream of Facebook posts and 36 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: Snapchat stories, each one more elaborate than the last. 37 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: But looks can be deceiving. 38 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: This seemingly happy newlywed couple soon found themselves at the 39 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: center of a shocking series of crimes. 40 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm Trishia la Foch. 41 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: I'm a writer, director, actor, and federal criminal defense attorney. 42 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: You might have also seen me on Amazon Prime's Jury Duty, 43 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: arguing in a fake courtroom. It's true, isn't it, sir, 44 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: that you were once arrested for masturbating in a public 45 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: movie theater. That's correct, isn't it. 46 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to. 47 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: Tell you a story that's all too real about love, 48 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 2: lies and the lengths people will go to for attention. 49 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: It's a story that will leave you questioning everything you 50 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: thought you knew about truth, about reality, and about what 51 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 2: happens when the two collide in the most unimaginable way. 52 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: From Audio Up and just Sweet Pressed Productions, this is 53 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: The Unborn. 54 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: Coming up this season on The Unborn. 55 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 4: If the fire Marshal didn't tell me there was previous 56 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 4: fires in her life, I don't think it would have 57 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: crossed my mind. But after that fire, Marshal said, hey, 58 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 4: this is not the first fire she's been involved in 59 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 4: or been around. It really makes you think, hey, do 60 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 4: I really know who I'm married to? 61 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 6: I don't know if she was trying to kill him 62 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 6: or I have no clue what was going on with her. 63 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 6: That type of thing that's something you see a movie 64 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 6: on that's don't happen here in this area. But it did. 65 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: Got a fire and beer and a crazy ex white 66 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: and it's a full blow story. 67 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 7: We kept saying, she's probably not that crazy, There's no 68 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 7: way somebody would do that. 69 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 8: Right, Oh yeah, she's certifiable. She went back. Sheit crazy, 70 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 8: shot and killed all her farm animals, slaughtered them in 71 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 8: front of them. What tried to burn her house down? 72 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: I want to start by letting you know that we 73 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: are not professional journalists or investigators. 74 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: Rather, we're true. 75 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: Crime fans who love the genre. This story came to 76 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: us by chance. My husband, Frank Rodriguez mal is also 77 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: a screenwriter, but at one point he worked in the 78 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: outfitting business, guiding deer hunts in the Midwest. He also 79 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: took a turn as an amateur boxer, but that's a 80 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: story for another day. Years later, he's still extremely close 81 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: with his former boss on the ranch, Mitchell. On December twelfth, 82 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, Frank got a call from Mitchell. 83 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 5: He basically called and said, Frank, you are not going 84 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:46,119 Speaker 5: to believe this story. 85 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 4: I just heard it camp. 86 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: A man will call. 87 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: Henry, who is Jared Ackron's closest family friend, was at 88 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 2: hunting camp and Henry had a front row seat to 89 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: a story that was unbelievable and it was playing out 90 00:04:59,080 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: in real time. 91 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 5: So Mitchell called and said, he heard the crazy story 92 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 5: at hunting camp that he's ever heard. And if you 93 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 5: know anything about hunting camps, the stories can get tall. 94 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 5: Getting stocked by a mountain lion while tracking a deer, 95 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 5: the ten foot tall grizzly bear that ripped into your 96 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 5: tent while salmon fishing in Alaska, or some other woodmanship 97 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 5: heroics fueled by fireside whiskey that usually borders on bullshit. 98 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: But this one wasn't bullshit. 99 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: In fact, Mitchell thought it was something out of a 100 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: movie or TV show, and he decided to call Frank, 101 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: his Hollywood screenwriter friend, while Henry was still at camp. 102 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 5: So I had the idea that it could be a 103 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 5: great true crime podcast and asked Mitchell if Henry and 104 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 5: Jerry would be willing to talk to Trisha and I, 105 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 5: because I thought it would be the perfect thing for 106 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 5: us to do together. 107 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: They said yes, and we were on the phone with 108 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: them the very next day, a mere two days after 109 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: the whole thing went down. 110 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: And from there we decided. 111 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: To tell this story about what happened in Avilla, Pennsylvania 112 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: to Jared Akron. What we heard wasn't typical campfire fodder, 113 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 2: more like something out of a Cohen Brothers film, or 114 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: even better, a Scooby Doo mystery. Call it Western Pennsylvania. 115 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: Gothic small towns often have secrets that go back generations, 116 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: and a villa has more than its fair share, and 117 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: that's what we set out to uncover over the next 118 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: seven episodes. So if we fail to introduce a source 119 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: or present proper evidence, sorry about that. All I can 120 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: say is what you're about to hear is when hundred 121 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: percent true. The names have all been changed to protect 122 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: the innocent and the guilty alike. Were in Novella, a 123 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: western Pennsylvania farming community. It's picturesque, peaceful, a slice of Americana, 124 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: rolling green hills and forests, cobblestone main streets, farms that 125 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: have been in families for generations. The current population is 126 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: about eight hundred people. As you would guess, this is 127 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: a tight knit community, the kind of place where people 128 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: look out for one another. It's also the kind of 129 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: place where everyone knows everything about everyone else's business. And 130 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: everyone in Avila can tell you the kind of family 131 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: the Akrons are. 132 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: They own a feed mill. 133 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: They're honest, hardworking, and their oldest son, Jared, is no different. 134 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: How would you describe your son? 135 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 9: Sensitive and thoughtful. 136 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: That's Jared's father, David. 137 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 9: I mean, he'll get help anybody out that needs help. Yeah, 138 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 9: he helps me quite a bit. I would consider him 139 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 9: one of my best friends. 140 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: Stumper Ad that's Jared's mom, Kathy. 141 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 5: He's a good kid. 142 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 8: I think he's loving and I don't know. 143 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: Here's Henry, Jared's boss. 144 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: For Henry, Jared isn't employee, he's like family. In fact, 145 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: Henry is best friends with Jared's father, David. He affectionately 146 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: refers to Jared as tork Chop or big Sexy. 147 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 8: Yeah he's PC or big Sexy. Yeah he beat Anarexi. 148 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 8: As you'll see, he's a great kid, raised by a 149 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 8: good family, best friends with his dad in my whole life, 150 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 8: raised around the farm, showing cattle and stuff with them, 151 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 8: and he just couldn't be any nicer. Yeah, Big Sexy 152 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 8: is a sweetheart. 153 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 4: My name is Jared Akron. I'm twenty four years old. 154 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 4: I grew up in Avello, Pennsylvania. It's a former coal 155 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 4: mining town right now. I sell metal fabricating equipment. You know, 156 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 4: anything that cuts your ben's metal, I'll say, help my 157 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: folks run their feed meal. I'm just your basic small 158 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 4: town dude trying to make ends meet. It's a young graduate, 159 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 4: just bought a house. I had a good job. I've 160 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 4: made all my payments and had money left over. No 161 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 4: care in the world. 162 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 7: He was kind of frat boyish where he wanted to 163 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 7: drink all the time and loved being around people. 164 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: That's my She's Henry's daughter and one of Jared's oldest 165 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: and closest friends. 166 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: Other than the frat boy life style he had. 167 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 10: He was also a farmer who helped his parents at 168 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 10: the feedmale so I would say he's very hard working 169 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 10: and friendly, and he likes to drink. 170 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 2: Jared was living that small town life where everyone's just 171 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: working for the weekend, except here you drove your tractor 172 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: to the bar. 173 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: I would say that Jared was rent from Footlooths. 174 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 8: I tell you something, if I got to get up 175 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 8: in front of that council, then you are going to. 176 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: Learn how to dance more like the Chris pen character. 177 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 4: I told you right, I promised rest of you'll fights tonight. 178 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 5: Okay. 179 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: But it was a town just like that, tractors on 180 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: the highway. 181 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: Everyone knows everyone else's family, going back generations. 182 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: You can't escape your past here, and if. 183 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: You've done something crazy or mean or downright shifty, you 184 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: might as well pack up and leave because there's no 185 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 2: living that down But Jared and his friends were neither 186 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: mean nor crazy. 187 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: They were kids who liked to drink and carry on. 188 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 4: It's a close knit community that we're around. Everyone cares 189 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 4: about each other. It's always a good time. It's kind 190 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 4: of a hey, we don't really care how we do, 191 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 4: but it was a good time. You get to see 192 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 4: all your buddies you don't always see. And it's a 193 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 4: Saturday morning. We're usually out of there a by one o'clock. 194 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: It was one of those Saturday nights when Jared reconnected 195 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: with Christy for the first time since high school, when 196 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: they did four h together showing animals at the County 197 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 2: Fair and sneaking kisses behind. 198 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 4: The bar bigs, cows, sheep, and goats. 199 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: It was Molly's twenty first birthday and Jared was texting 200 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 2: with Christy already. The two had found one another on Facebook. 201 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 4: I actually ended up sliding her DMS. 202 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 11: I will say it was me that pushed her to 203 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 11: come to the bar. 204 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: That's Molly again. 205 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 12: They were texting and I told him to call her, 206 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 12: and then I took the phone, went outside and was like, hey, 207 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 12: you should come down. 208 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: Much to Jared's shock, Christy showed up alone and they 209 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: were pretty much insuperable. 210 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: After that. 211 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: Christy told Jared she was an executive managing a warehouse. 212 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: She had champagne tastes, even though Jared had a beer wallet. 213 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 4: I really enjoyed bar food and chicken wings. She wanted 214 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 4: to go to these hoity toity places. 215 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 8: She is a very. 216 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 2: Nice She would do anything for anyone. 217 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 6: You know. 218 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 8: She would go to the mint and back. 219 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: This is Jenny, Christy's former best friend. Many people from 220 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: Jared's circle were drawn to Christy too. This is Molly again. 221 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 4: I think she seemed fun. 222 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 11: I try not to judge people too fast. My first 223 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 11: impression was that she was cool. 224 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: I tried to always reach out to her and be like, hey, like, 225 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: what are you guys doing? Do you want to hang out? 226 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: It's not surprising, given the nature of this tight knit community, 227 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 2: that Jared's father knew Christy far before she started dating 228 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 2: his son. 229 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 9: Well see, I've known her and her family for a 230 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 9: long time. 231 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: Within months, they were pregnant and married. 232 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 4: This was a shotgun wedding and a half. 233 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 11: It was beautiful, it was a dream, it was a 234 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 11: dream winning. It was everything anyone could ask were I mean. 235 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 4: It was pretty big. I bet you. We had every 236 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 4: bit of two people there. 237 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: They were ready to embark on their life together. 238 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: But what Jared didn't know was that this perfect life 239 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 2: was not what it appeared to be. 240 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 13: Her dad is. 241 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 9: The same age as me, so we grew up showing 242 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 9: at four age and you know, everything, the shows and 243 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 9: all that kind of stuff. We were actually pretty decent 244 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 9: friends growing up. She never said much when she was 245 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 9: growing up. 246 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 13: When Jared met her, you know, I had not seen 247 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 13: her for a couple of years, so I didn't know 248 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 13: good or bad or indifferent. 249 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 9: She's pretty bubbly, you know, she was a farm girl, 250 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 9: so I like that. You know, the things that we 251 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 9: do are you know, she's growing up with her life too, 252 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 9: so it's not foreign to her. 253 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: We thought she was wonderful. 254 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 11: You know, we did game nights. 255 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: This is Sarah. 256 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: She's married to one of Jared's best friends, Wade. Sarah 257 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: was already a few months pregnant when Christy first discovered 258 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 2: that she was. Not only were they pregnant at the 259 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: same time, but they were due to deliver at the 260 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: exact same hospital. 261 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 7: We you know, tried to hang out with them often, 262 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 7: and obviously she was there, so everything seemed really normal 263 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 7: to me. 264 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: But Sarah's positive opinion on Christy didn't last long. 265 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 11: I wasn't questioning her sanity or anything. 266 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 7: And then he came over just one random day, Hey, 267 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 7: I want to come over. 268 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: Sarah couldn't exactly say why, but she immediately felt something 269 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: was off when Jared called and asked to come over, 270 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: and he. 271 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 7: Just stopped by and he said, yeah, was in the 272 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 7: emergency room last night at three in the morning. We 273 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 7: took her there because she was vomiting and super sick, 274 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 7: and they tore her she's pregnant. And I said, wow, 275 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 7: that's crazy, and wow, it was all he says, she say, 276 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 7: because he wasn't allowed in the emergency room. 277 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 11: First of all, that was a red flag to. 278 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 7: Me because I had been going through the same thing 279 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 7: because I just found out I was pregnant myself, and 280 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 7: so I knew that you could have one significant other 281 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 7: with you. 282 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 11: So anyways, that was one red flag to me. 283 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 7: And he said they tested her urine for the pregnancy 284 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 7: because she was so sick, and they told. 285 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 11: Her she was four weeks pregnant. 286 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 7: So that was my second red flag is one I've 287 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 7: never heard of anybody being nauseous before. 288 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 11: Like eight weeks at the very early list. I've never 289 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 11: heard of anybody having sickness like that that are. 290 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 7: I kind of validated that because I don't know a 291 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 7: lot of people who have had twins, so I thought, 292 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 7: you know, maybe it's just different. 293 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 11: I don't know, you know, I I don't know I 294 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 11: have twins. So I just let it play out. So 295 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 11: I was a little suspicious at that point. 296 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: But Sarah's suspicions continued to grow. 297 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 7: But then and the next I don't know, maybe a 298 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 7: week later or so, he came over and said, uh, 299 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 7: they did a blood test and found out it was twins. 300 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 7: At that point, they didn't know it was twins. They 301 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 7: did a blood test to find out it was twins. 302 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 7: And that's whenever he brought a ring over and said, 303 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 7: I think I'm want to propose. 304 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 6: You know. 305 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 7: We tried to tell him, if you feel that that's 306 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 7: something you want to do, then that's great, we'll support you. 307 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 11: But the blood test got me because I've. 308 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 7: Never I'd never heard of anybody finding out you're having 309 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 7: twins by a blood test. I know you can find 310 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 7: out the gender by a blood test, but I didn't 311 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 7: think you could find out if you're having multiples with 312 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 7: a blood test. So I did a little research and 313 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 7: asked some people that I knew, and because at that 314 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 7: point I was very suspicious, and it turns out you 315 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 7: cannot find out you're having multiples with a blood test. 316 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: Sarah struggled with the information she knew to be true 317 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: and what the acrons were telling her. She repeated her 318 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: concerns to her Husban, but he was steadfast. He did 319 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: not want them to get. 320 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 11: Involved, wanted stepping on any toes. I don't want to 321 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 11: ruin my relationship with my best friend. 322 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 7: I think you need to keep that to yourself because 323 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 7: she's probably not that crazy. I mean, and that's what 324 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 7: we kept saying, is there's no way somebody would do that, right. 325 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:26,359 Speaker 7: So yeah, it was just at that point out internally, 326 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 7: I was like, this is something's not right, but it's 327 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 7: not my best friend. 328 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: She did give Jared one piece of advice. 329 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 7: Whenever he brought a ring over that week after she 330 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 7: would have been what five weeks pregnant or something like that, 331 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 7: I told him, I said, you know, there's like one 332 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 7: in four women, like twenty five percent of women have 333 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 7: miscarriages really early, so maybe think about that. Is it 334 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 7: too early to be asking a big question like that? 335 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 7: But obviously now I'm like, I really wish I would 336 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 7: have said more, but there's no way I could have known, 337 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 7: And I kept telling myself, there's no way somebody would 338 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 7: be that crazy. 339 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 2: Sarah's decision to keep quiet was one of the biggest 340 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: regrets of her life. 341 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: But even with all. 342 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 2: Of her suspicions, she could have never fathomed what was 343 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: to come. It's Thursday, December tenth, twenty twenty, about one 344 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: thirty am on this cold, rainy winter morning. Christie tells 345 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: Jared her water broke. This news is slightly alarming since 346 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,239 Speaker 2: they had been preparing for a scheduled c section on 347 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: that Monday, But such as the miracle of life. 348 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 4: This is Jared my wife, Christy. She had woken me 349 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 4: up at probably one thirty in the morning. She goes, hey, 350 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 4: my water has broken. We need to go to the hospital. 351 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 4: So I'm go and get the bags and everything like 352 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 4: that that we're packed in the house, throw them in 353 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 4: the car and help her to the car. Take off. 354 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 4: We drive the forty five minutes to an hour or 355 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 4: two the da hospital. There was a closer hospital, but 356 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 4: because her had a what they consider a high risk pregnancy, 357 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 4: and the reason they considered it high risk was because 358 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 4: she had twins and that she had already lost a 359 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: child before this. 360 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: I'm not a mother, I've never given birth, but I 361 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: asked around and apparently there's many reasons for a sea 362 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: section to be scheduled. 363 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: And if your water breaks prior. 364 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: To a scheduled sea section, it's not necessarily bad, but 365 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: it is important to get to a hospital as soon 366 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 2: as possible because the water breaking means that the body 367 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: has started the process on its own. If the baby 368 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: is not positioned right or if there are blood pressure conditions, 369 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 2: it can become a complicated birth. Add to that, as 370 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 2: Jared mentioned, Christy was carrying twins and she had suffered 371 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: a miscarriage before. 372 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: So there are many reasons why. 373 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: This could be bad, but only if you don't make 374 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: it to a hospital. Remember that we're at the height 375 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 2: of COVID Hospitals were working overtime. Even heading to the 376 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: hospital was not business as usual. Entering was a process. 377 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 4: Drop her off at the emergency room. Then they have 378 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 4: to do a COVID rapid test too, because this is 379 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 4: right and part of the whole entire COVID pandemic mask everywhere, 380 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 4: and so we get there, drop her off. 381 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: Christy needed to be tested for COVID, and if she 382 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 2: tested positive, Jared would be effectively locked out of the 383 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: birth of his twins. 384 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 4: She called me and told me her COVID tests to 385 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 4: come back positive. 386 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 2: Jared will not be able to enter the hospital to 387 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 2: witness his children being born. Information about the virus was 388 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 2: evolving slowly. 389 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: It was scary. No one really knew what it. 390 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 2: Meant for a pregnant mother that contracted COVID, and Jared 391 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: had a lot of questions about what her positive test meant. 392 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 4: It was kind of a gut wrenching feeling, Hey, what happens. 393 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 4: There's not a lot of info out there about the 394 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 4: can COVID be contracted by small children? And just at 395 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 4: birth had adverse effects of being in with the mother 396 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 4: in the womb? Who are they going to be COVID positive? 397 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 4: Am I gonna be able to see him touch them? 398 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: Jared was left completely in the dark. 399 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: All firsthand knowledge of what was going on with their 400 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: children's birth would have to come from. 401 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: His wife, Christy. 402 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: At two seventeen am, Jared got this text from Christy. 403 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 12: They're taking me straight back, no check in, okay, call 404 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 12: me giving my phone. They're putting a screen across my 405 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 12: way so I can't see I love you. 406 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: Jared did call Christy. 407 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 2: She told them she was getting into her gown and 408 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: they were going to do an ultrasound to make sure 409 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: everything's okay. 410 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: Everything was not okay. 411 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 4: So she goes, well, I'm going back into the room 412 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 4: to get the gown. That they do an ultrasound is 413 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 4: what she tells me. They can't find a heart meat. 414 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: Imagine being stuck in your truck, a storm raging outside, 415 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 2: and being told by your wife that the doctors cannot 416 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: find the heartbeat to your babies, and because of the 417 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: nature of the world at the time, as well as 418 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: your wife's positive COVID test, you can do nothing about 419 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: it except sit and wait. 420 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 4: I will send you pictures and stuff when I'm done. 421 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: I called her real quick thought her I loved her, 422 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 4: and that was all I heard for probably forty five minutes. 423 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: After forty five minutes, Christy texted Jared a picture of 424 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: one baby and what did it look like. 425 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 4: It's a healthy looking baby. They did have some drainage 426 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 4: tubes in it. 427 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: Twelve minutes later, baby number two was born. Their second 428 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: child also needed drainage tubes. 429 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 4: She told me they had some fluid in their long 430 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 4: sizes they were in there too long, but not to 431 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 4: worry about it anything like that. It's normal for twins 432 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 4: to have to have some help with birth. She told me, 433 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 4: hey put them online, and I thought that was a 434 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 4: good time, the easier way than to send to all 435 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 4: these people, in which I did text the two my 436 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 4: mom and my dad, but she did want on Facebook 437 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 4: right then and there. 438 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: For context throughout their relationship, Jared felt Christy had an 439 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: extremely unhealthy relationship to Facebook, Snapchat and social media in general, 440 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: but more about that later. Here's the caption that Christy 441 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: sent to Jared to post alongside the pictures of the babies. 442 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: After what felt like the longest pregnancy in all the 443 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 3: land and the biggest marathon of our lives, we are 444 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: so unbelievably excited and proud to finally introduce our beautiful, 445 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: healthy twins, Hannah and Lyle. Lyle born at three fifty 446 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: six am five pounds two ounces, nineteen and a half 447 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 3: inches Hannah born at four oh eight am five pounds 448 00:22:50,119 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: fourteen ounces, twenty and one fourth inches. 449 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 7: Well. 450 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: Jared would eventually post the phonetos of the children with 451 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 2: the caption, as sent verbatim by Christy. 452 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: At that point he held off on the post and 453 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: then what else did you do? Did you call your parents? 454 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 4: Called my mom and dad. They were all having my 455 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 4: grandma and I actually even she asked me, I'll call 456 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 4: her grandmother and stuff like that. I was excited. I 457 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 4: was because I mean that hour and a half that 458 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 4: I sat there was cruelly. I didn't know what was 459 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 4: going on. I knew I wasn't gonna be allowed it 460 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 4: into the hospital. So I take a little nap that 461 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 4: I wake up and then I kind of don't hear 462 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 4: anything from her four or maybe three hours. So then 463 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 4: I actually received a picture from Christy, the picture of 464 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 4: both of the kids, with which it was nice because 465 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 4: I got to see the placard that I had spent countless, 466 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 4: countless hours trying to make it perfect for her. 467 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the photo of the placard. It really 468 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 2: shows the level of care Jared put into it. A 469 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 2: handmade wooden frame, painted white, intricate wooden letters that detail 470 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: their joyous news. 471 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 4: They had their names. A big part was seeing them 472 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 4: without all the tubes and things like that, and because 473 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,719 Speaker 4: at that point they had taken those tubes out and 474 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 4: given her a nice picture to put on there, and 475 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 4: of course I sent that all to my friends and family. 476 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: Even though he could not see his kids and was 477 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: stuck in a hospital parking lot, Jared finally felt relief 478 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: and joy he had the news he had been praying for. 479 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: His twins were healthy. 480 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 4: I actually think that was the picture I posted. Yeah, 481 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 4: that was definitely it. Because I didn't want to put 482 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 4: the tubes and things online. So my wife had told me, hey, 483 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 4: once you go home, get the house ready and clean 484 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 4: it because we weren't ready for me yet. So I 485 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 4: called my parents on the way home and just kind 486 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 4: of talk about the picture, and they're like, all good 487 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 4: tubes and all that all out. They look healthy, happy, 488 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 4: They actually get to be together, and they put them 489 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 4: in the same little assinate and they said the physical 490 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 4: touch between them would help them get better soon. 491 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 2: Still disappointed he couldn't witness their birth, but ultimately just 492 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: happy they were out of the woods, Jared began his 493 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 2: forty five minute drive. 494 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: Homes to get the house ready for his newborns. 495 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: He was a proud father, but Jared's moment of newfound 496 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: fatherhood wouldn't last long. While Jared is getting the house 497 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: in order. His best friend Wade and his pregnant wife 498 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: Sarah come over to help out. 499 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: Jared recounts that night. 500 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 4: I guess after that, I didn't really get any updates. 501 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 4: But I'm having dinner with my best friend and his 502 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 4: wife when you're get in the house ready, and they 503 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 4: helped Clane and things like that. I get a phone 504 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 4: call you need to come pick me up. And at 505 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 4: that point my heart had kind of dropped. But because 506 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 4: I mean, no one wants to get that text, Hey, 507 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 4: you need to come get me in the hospital. 508 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: Jared admittedly did not know a ton about childbirth and 509 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: probably did not ask enough questions, but he felt in 510 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: his bones that if his wife Christy was ready to 511 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: leave the hospital approximately fifteen hours after giving birth, something 512 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: was very, very wrong. 513 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 4: I didn't know what to think. Why did you need 514 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 4: picked up? You need to call me. I'm getting texts like, hey, 515 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 4: did I pay this parking ticket or speeding ticket in 516 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 4: a town that she got? I mean, I'm that's the 517 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 4: last thing on my mind. So I fly in there, 518 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 4: of course hit traffic, the. 519 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: Pit of dread growing in Jared's stomach as he navigates 520 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 2: traffic the winter roads. Updates from Christi are sparse at best, 521 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: and it takes him more than an hour to get 522 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: to the hospital. He finally arrives Christie instructing him where 523 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 2: to go. 524 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 4: She tells me to come to the main entrance, which 525 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 4: and of course I had dropped her off the emergency room. 526 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 4: I didn't know where in the hospital the they called 527 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 4: the army renew war was. So I'm like, okay, I'll 528 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 4: just pull up to the front. When she stole me. 529 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 4: I pull up, There's probably three or four cars in 530 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 4: front of me. So once I get to the front, 531 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 4: I see her walking out being escorted by two police officers. 532 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: She was also in handcuffs. 533 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 4: They bring her to the car, help her get in, 534 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 4: and then they come and ask for my picture of 535 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 4: my license and my license blate. 536 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 2: So they took your license physically, and they took a 537 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: picture of it correct. 538 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 4: They took a picture of the license blake of the 539 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 4: making model of the car. He didn't say very many words. 540 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 4: This is as close to verbatim as I could remember. 541 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 4: Was what your I asked, what was going on? He goes, 542 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 4: you have to ask your wife that yourself. 543 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: It's nothing good that's for sure. 544 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 4: But you look like you're strong enough to handle it. 545 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 4: So it's good luck to you, sir. And that, and 546 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 4: then he kind of walked away, and I turned to 547 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 4: my wife and asked, well, what happened? 548 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: Jared continued to ask Christy what was going on? 549 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: Where were the children? Were they okay? 550 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: But Christy was beside herself, screaming and crying, too emotional 551 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: to answer, why are. 552 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: You arresting me? I didn't do anything of my baby, 553 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: Please my baby. 554 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 4: I'm confused. I don't know what's going on. 555 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw myself out of the fucking car. 556 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to live anymore. 557 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 4: She won't tell me, Well, there's cars piling up behind me, 558 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 4: because it's probably six point thirty now. It's people are 559 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 4: coming to visit and things like that, so I pull 560 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 4: over into one of the parking office bots. 561 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to live anymore. 562 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 6: I want to die. 563 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 2: Let me die. 564 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 4: I'm like, well, what's going on? She refuses to tell me. 565 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 4: He's just crying and bawling and just making it like 566 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 4: a huge show. I guess I've thought about. 567 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 12: Just running away and never ever calling you. 568 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 4: Just She was hysterical, and I couldn't get any words 569 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 4: out of her. I'm just questioning her back and forth, 570 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 4: and she's just. 571 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: Saying, I don't want to live anymore. I'm gonna throw 572 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: myself off this car. 573 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 4: I thought about just running away and never calling you. 574 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: And then finally she said, the. 575 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 12: Kids are dead. 576 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 4: She basically she just flat out told me and that 577 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 4: the kids are dead. 578 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: This season on The Unborn, she seemed fun. 579 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 11: I don't really like I try not to judge people 580 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 11: too fashion. 581 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 8: And then all the shit hit the fan and all 582 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 8: the wheels fell off. 583 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, but she's a very sick girl in 584 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: my opinion. 585 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 7: I remember looking at the sonograms and seeing her name, 586 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 7: and I was like, oh, well, her name's on it. 587 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 11: Obviously they're real sonograms. 588 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: Because her name's on it, she had to know that 589 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: this was not a lie. They could go on forever. 590 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: That's almost more of this psychotic kind of delusional disorder. 591 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 7: She was planning on just ending it for the both 592 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 7: of them, just trying to be done with life. 593 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 11: Literally, that morning we went to the bank. 594 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 4: She wanted to take all this money out. 595 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 9: She's a professional liar, because evidently everything must be a. 596 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 7: Line with her. 597 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 8: They tried to work things out, and then she went 598 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 8: fast shit crazy and run off the reservation and shot 599 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 8: and killed all their farm animals and like slaughtered them 600 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 8: in front of the kids. 601 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 4: Pitch your perfect family, which furthest thing from the truth. 602 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 8: They had her as one of the suspects, but they 603 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 8: could never prove it. 604 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 4: You're going to go to jail if you don't come 605 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 4: with us. 606 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: Right now. Everybody's telling her to run to North Carolina 607 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: because the authorities are going to after her. 608 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 10: Throughout this whole thing, I kept telling myself, nobody's that crazy, crazy, crazy, 609 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 10: crazy crazy crazy. 610 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: The Unborn is a production of iHeart Podcasts, Audio Up 611 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: and jess We Press Productions. Created by Trisila Fotch and 612 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: Frank Rodriguez Mall, produced by Alvin Cohen and Rachel Foley. 613 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: Executive produced by Jimmy Jellinek, David Dwaits and Jared gustav 614 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: Edited by Gerrard Bauer and Preston Dawson. Sound design and 615 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: mixing by Jeremiah Zimmerman.