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Speaker 1: This He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold car Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly, he is Matt Williamson and Matt's.

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Speaker 2: Thursday here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: Steelers play the Baltimore Ravens at one o'clock on Sunday

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Speaker 3: at Akroschuer Stadium. And well we got an injury report

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Speaker 3: here for the Steelers to kick off the show. Can

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Speaker 3: he Pickett a full participant in practice today after being

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Speaker 3: limited yesterday? Cole Holcombe was limited on Wednesday. Today he

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Speaker 3: was a full participant with the back issue chooks a

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Speaker 3: corps for with the elbowed or did not practice yesterday.

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Speaker 3: He was a full participant today. And then Demarvin Leal

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Speaker 3: got a limited practice in after being did not practicing

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Speaker 3: at all yesterday. So that's a good step for him,

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Speaker 3: step forward in the concussion protocol. Unfortunately, however, Alex high

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Speaker 3: Smith added to the injury with a groin issue.

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Speaker 4: Uh oh, well, there is depth there, but he is

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Speaker 4: super valuable. Interesting nuggets you know just about this matchup

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Speaker 4: for this applies to high Smith and Pressure. So When

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Speaker 4: Lamar isn't pressured, he's been tearing the league up. When

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Speaker 4: he's dealing with pressure, he's low on the quarterback list.

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Speaker 4: You know, when all of them are pressure, I mean,

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Speaker 4: everybody's obviously worse.

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Speaker 2: Steelers for Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 4: Well, he's unicorn in that regard. So the Steelers defense

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Speaker 4: is very strong with those tendencies as well. When they

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Speaker 4: create pressure, they're basically the best defense in the league.

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Speaker 4: When they don't, they're at the bottom of the league

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Speaker 4: compared to other teams. When they don't complete, you have pressure.

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Speaker 4: Fortunately for Pittsburgh, only Dallas pressure's quarterbacks at a higher

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Speaker 4: rate than the Steelers, So high Smith has a lot

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Speaker 4: to do with that. But in this particular matchup, it's

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Speaker 4: as important as ever if you just follow the numbers,

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Speaker 4: and Lamar has never been a great pressure player, you know, is.

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Speaker 3: Lamar not getting pressured as much this year or are

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Speaker 3: his numbers better this year? Because the ball is coming

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Speaker 3: out of his hands so.

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Speaker 4: Quick, I don't know if he's getting pressured more or less.

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Speaker 4: I know that he's holding the ball much less.

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Speaker 3: They're getting out of his hands quickly, quickly. Because he

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Speaker 3: he likes.

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Speaker 2: To run around the.

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Speaker 3: Quarter the the more mobile the quarterback, typically the longer

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Speaker 3: they hold the ball behind the line of scrimmage, make

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Speaker 3: you a miss, right, Yeah, And they may be running

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Speaker 3: around back there and decide to run that that still

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Speaker 3: counts against their time in the pocket looking to pass.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's one hundred percent true. And that's obviously a

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Speaker 4: Monkin change. We don't if you're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna, don't do that, get it out of your hands,

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Speaker 2: or take.

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Speaker 4: Off and run or taking off either scramble you know, here,

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Speaker 4: here's one, here's two. Scramble. You know, I think that's

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Speaker 4: probably what they're coaching him to do. And one and

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Speaker 4: two have often been shorter or middle of the and

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Speaker 4: or middle of the field reads. But then let's just

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Speaker 4: not hold it behind the line of scrimmage for a

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Speaker 4: long time. And you know, he has faced some good

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Speaker 4: defense since he's decent. Colts are decent. We saw Houston.

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Speaker 4: They fly around pretty good, and the Browns are really good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, while the passer rating and things of that nature

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Speaker 3: are are are fine. I mean they're they're above a

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Speaker 3: you know, the second best in his career. Early he's

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Speaker 3: only averaging two hundred yards per game and he only

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Speaker 3: has four touchdown passes in four games.

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Speaker 4: I think he only threw the ball nineteen times last week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't much. Yeah, they didn't need to throw

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Speaker 3: it much. He's averaging twenty five pass attempts per game.

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Speaker 4: So I just mentioned the four teams they've played. They're

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Speaker 4: not shootout type teams to say the least. I mean,

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Speaker 4: and even Houston was not. That was their first game

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Speaker 4: of the year and they're much better now. So you know,

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Speaker 4: that's what game script or what.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when I see the La Mars he's in the

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Speaker 3: running for MVP this year, I'm like, he's on pace

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Speaker 3: to throw for about thirty four hundred.

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Speaker 4: Yards and say his numbers wouldn't be and he's.

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Speaker 3: Not running as much as he he's done in preview.

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Speaker 3: He's average of forty yards rushing per game. Like, those

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Speaker 3: aren't MVP type.

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Speaker 4: Numbers, No, no, but boy, they'd be a disaster.

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Speaker 3: Without them without Yeah, I know, in terms of most

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, right, right, right, he's not on pace to

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Speaker 4: He's had better numbers that way I mean won the MVP.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when he said he wanted to throw for six

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Speaker 3: thousand yards this year, well, at the current rate, he's

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Speaker 3: going to have to play about three hundred games or.

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Speaker 4: Throw six hundred yards a game. Yeah, no, he's got

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Speaker 4: to come close to that. He does have four rushing

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Speaker 4: touchdowns to in the last each of the last two games.

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Speaker 4: But still, I mean, he's very much a high high

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, well he always has been, he always

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Speaker 3: will be. But the offense isn't. It's almost it's not

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Speaker 3: quite as explosive as it's been in previous years.

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Speaker 4: No, Like they're not using zay flowers like Mark.

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Speaker 3: They're more content moving the change and it's almost like

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Speaker 3: their running game.

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Speaker 2: Exactly like okay, we'nction of the run game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's ball control, it's you know, vertical stuff, short

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Speaker 4: crossers over the middle, tight end stuff. But they've only

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Speaker 4: had thirteen snaps this year. With their four top pass

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Speaker 4: catchers out there, I don't think we'll see them in

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Speaker 4: this game. And won't. We haven't seen a Ravens practice yet,

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Speaker 4: not sure, probably the next hour, so yeah we will.

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Speaker 4: But no, I mean they're they're a hard team to

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Speaker 4: get a grasp of because they have, especially their defense,

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Speaker 4: because the quarterbacks they faced and offenses are sort of broken.

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Speaker 4: And they've been very fortunate and they've taken advantage. And

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Speaker 4: of course Harbaugh is smart enough to realize, why I

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Speaker 4: put my quarterback in harm's way throw at sixty times

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Speaker 4: if my defense has this thing under control. So and

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Speaker 4: I think as they've learned, they've won three out of

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Speaker 4: four games. But they did lose the Colts, who aren't

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Speaker 4: a powerhouse, you know. I mean the Colts played them.

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Speaker 3: Tough and that was with Minshew at courn Have you

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Speaker 3: watched that? I mean I watched that game live a.

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Speaker 2: Good portion of it.

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Speaker 4: I haven't gone back.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I didn't go back and rewatch it. I

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Speaker 3: watched the last game against the Browns.

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Speaker 4: That's probably their game, I know, the least about to.

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Speaker 2: Be honest, minshe had a high completion percentage in it.

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Speaker 4: Maybeah, we'll go pay attention to that one at some point.

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Speaker 4: I mean, remember he played well. I think Pittman had

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Speaker 4: a decent game. I mean, they didn't have Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 4: I'm guessing it's a lot of moss at that point.

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Speaker 3: That was week Moss ran the ball like crazy in

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Was that Week three when he like never left the field,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, just looking back at the at the

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Speaker 3: recap of that game, if you look at what Minshew did, it.

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Speaker 2: Was that's one basically what the what the Colts did.

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Speaker 3: He ended up twenty seven to forty four for two

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Speaker 3: hundred and twenty seven yards, so it's five point two

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Speaker 3: yards per attempt. But it was a lot of just

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Speaker 3: get the ball out of your hands, let's just keep

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Speaker 3: moving the you know, moving the chains here. Uh, Zach

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Speaker 3: Moss had thirty carries for one hundred and twenty two yards.

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Speaker 4: Well, so they ran a lot of play.

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Speaker 3: Trace Trey Sermon. They ran the ball so much with

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Speaker 3: Zach Moss that Tray Sermon actually came in late in

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Speaker 4: Because they because Moss was so beat up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he.

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Speaker 3: Ended up with five carries for seventeen yards and he

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Speaker 4: And I think they picked him up someone's practice squad,

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Speaker 4: so they ran I mean also lines back to playing

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Speaker 4: quite well with Quentin Nelson and those guys. Yeah, what

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Speaker 2: It's twenty two to nineteen.

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Speaker 3: If you look at the the yardage stuff, the Culture

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Speaker 3: only had three hundred and twenty seven yards.

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Speaker 4: The boy, they must have ran a lot of plays.

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Speaker 3: They ran a lot of plays and they just kept

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Speaker 3: it was eighty four total plays.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's a ton, that's all I mean.

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Speaker 3: It was an overtime game too, but still, yeah, three

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Speaker 3: point nine yards per play.

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Speaker 4: I bet their yards for play wasn't high.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was a field position game, which is nine times

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Speaker 3: out of ten Steelers Ravens is a field position game.

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Speaker 4: As to say that might be a script, you could

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Speaker 4: Minshew's not a superstar, but he's been around the block.

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Speaker 4: Is was there big turnover swings and one team the

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Speaker 3: No interceptions and the Ravens fumbled twice?

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Speaker 4: Okay? How about time of possession? Was that about equal to.

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Speaker 2: Time of possession?

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Speaker 3: Ended up thirty six thirty three for the Colts and

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Speaker 3: thirty to eighteen for the.

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Speaker 2: For the Ravens.

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Speaker 4: Obviously it's more than sixty because it went.

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Speaker 3: That was also a game like so Tucker had a

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Speaker 3: chance to win it, I believe, Yeah, late in the

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Speaker 2: And over yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then Matt Gay came in and won, and then.

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Speaker 3: They well that was at the end of regulation in

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Speaker 3: overtime they passed on long tucker Field.

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Speaker 4: They sent it to overtime. Yeah, gotcha.

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Speaker 3: That was when the Ravens went for it on fourth

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Speaker 3: down and didn't make it and get it. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: then they all they all screamed and cried about, you know,

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Speaker 3: the pass interference penalty that should have been a pass

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure what the glean from that. You

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Speaker 4: know that that game as a recipe against them, but

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Speaker 4: certainly ball control, time of possession. You don't need tons

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Speaker 4: of explosives, you know. I mean, if you're getting four

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Speaker 4: yards of play, that's not great. But if you're consistently

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Speaker 4: doing that and not going backwards, you can live that

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Speaker 3: Well, the Colts were eight for twenty two on third

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Speaker 3: downs in that game.

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Speaker 4: Really twenty two third down they got the twenty two

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Speaker 3: Basically one out of every four of their plays was

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Speaker 4: That was a big problem for the Steelers in Houston.

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Speaker 4: As you're running too many you're getting a third down

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Speaker 4: way too much.

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Speaker 2: But what they didn't do was make the big mistake.

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Speaker 4: No turnovers, no turnovers, play close to the vest. Probably

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Speaker 4: punted a fair amount.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they give up five sacks in the

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Speaker 4: Just looking at I think that was the Hamilton three

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Speaker 2: Because that's so.

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Speaker 3: If you look at Baltimore's receiving in that game, they

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Speaker 4: So Andrews didn't play in that one, right.

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Speaker 4: Goals where and even Beckham and Bateman aren't field stretchers. No,

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, people are attacking them downfield. Their average the

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Speaker 3: The other interesting thing about this, so Michael Pittman and

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Speaker 4: Other eight catches, we're pretty tight.

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Speaker 3: Downs was eight for fifty seven with a long of twelve.

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Speaker 3: You expose your your offense, your you expose your defense

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Speaker 4: And like the Colts, Steelers have a very good kicker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I mean, because that's really when I

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Speaker 4: For the this really was a kicker type du it was. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I Tucker's missed a couple of kicks this year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah he's human.

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Speaker 3: So if you can turn it into that kind of game,

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Speaker 4: I bet the Colts had very few three and outs,

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Speaker 4: I mean, is if you can keep getting first downs

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they had one touchdown drive. It was a nine

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Speaker 3: don't you know you can't punt from your own ten.

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Speaker 4: Curious if there's if you don't mind, get what were

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Speaker 3: Because the Colts have more, they railed did so.

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Speaker 2: Ravens only had one for five in that game.

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Speaker 4: These games have definitely been that type of game.

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Speaker 2: That's a win.

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Speaker 4: That's fine for a game like this. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: You know, you have to go out. You have to

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Speaker 3: The one commonality between the Steelers wins and the Steelers'

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Speaker 2: You can't do that. You can't do that. You have

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Speaker 4: And now three and now three and now, yes, can't.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure the Ravens will get their share of first downs.

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Speaker 4: They might not change the game in a you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one thing that you can't.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's played against them five times, but he's only

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Speaker 2: It hasn't happened.

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Speaker 4: A lot of Steelers haven't faced less Steelers have faced

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lolli, he is Matt Williamson, and this is

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Speaker 3: to be joined now by Bob Labriola, editor of Steelers Digested,

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Speaker 3: Steelers dot Com and team History. And we've tried this

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Speaker 3: a couple of times over the last couple of weeks. Bob,

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Speaker 4: Then we figured it out?

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Speaker 5: Yes, I can't hear you now? Wow?

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 3: It's it's like a commercial for Well cell phone service here.

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Speaker 3: But Bob, disappointing loss to the Houston Texans on Sunday

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Speaker 3: Was it a speed bump? Was it something that that's

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I don't believe that this Steelers team

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Speaker 5: they just showed up for a game because that implies

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Speaker 5: And they're not good enough that they can, you know,

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Speaker 5: play poorly. They don't have Ben Roethlisberger or a quarterback

442
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Speaker 5: who is a veteran, a dynamic veteran player, future Hall

443
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Speaker 5: of Fame kind of caliber guy where he can erase

444
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Speaker 5: you know, stretches of bad play either offense or defense,

445
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Speaker 5: with you know, hitting a couple of big plays or

446
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Speaker 5: you know, making a couple of plays for some receivers

447
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Speaker 5: or you know, doing some of the things that we

448
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,760
Speaker 5: saw Ben do all of those years that he was

449
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Speaker 5: in a Steelers' uniform. So when you don't have those

450
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Speaker 5: kinds of things, you know you have to you have

451
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Speaker 5: to play to your strengths or play to your capabilities.

452
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Speaker 5: I guess it is a better description of what I'm

453
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Speaker 5: trying to say. And they can't be that Sewers can't

454
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Speaker 5: beat anybody with that kind of performance that they had

455
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Speaker 5: against the Houston Texas. So you know, hopefully that that

456
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Speaker 5: is what has been learned from that experience that you know,

457
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Speaker 5: there's there's no they're not going to be any easy games.

458
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Speaker 5: There's not going to be any short cuts. There's there's

459
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Speaker 5: none of that stuff. So you know, we're gonna have

460
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Speaker 5: to see how they respond to this. I mean, I

461
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 5: know that this might sound counterintuitive, but you know, in

462
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Speaker 5: some ways, I'm kind of happy that it's the Ravens.

463
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Speaker 4: Now, that's what I was going to ask you about.

464
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Speaker 4: Is this a good time to get the Ravens or

465
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Speaker 4: the worst time to get the Ravens?

466
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Speaker 5: Well, you know, it should certainly get their attention. Now

467
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Speaker 5: do you have enough? Do they have enough, you know,

468
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Speaker 5: to handle the challenge that the Ravens are going to present?

469
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Speaker 5: You know, we'll find that out Sunday. But you know,

470
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Speaker 5: I don't think there's any you know, not looking past

471
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Speaker 5: or you know, any of that. Again, I don't mean

472
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Speaker 5: any of that stuff, But the Ravens will have their

473
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Speaker 5: attention because I think there are enough players in that Steelers'

474
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Speaker 5: locker room who.

475
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Speaker 6: Have had experiences against Ravens teams good and bad, and

476
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Speaker 6: they know what they needed to do in order to

477
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Speaker 6: make those experiences turn out well.

478
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Speaker 5: And they know what happens if they don't don't do

479
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,719
Speaker 5: those things. How ugly it can get, not necessarily on

480
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Speaker 5: the scoreboard, but it could be a punishing, painful kind

481
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Speaker 5: of afternoon three hours on the grass. So in that sense,

482
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Speaker 5: I think it's a good time for the Ravens to

483
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Speaker 5: have the Ravens on the schedule now again. And you know,

484
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Speaker 5: and I'm looking as we're talking here, I'm looking at

485
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Speaker 5: the Ravens practice repoard for today. You know, they're awfully

486
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Speaker 5: banged up, but it looks like, you know, they're getting

487
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 5: a lot of guys back. Ronnie Stanley, Marcus Williams have

488
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,360
Speaker 5: been full participants the last two days. Sar Bateman has

489
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 5: been a full participant in the last two days. You know,

490
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Speaker 5: Marlon Humphrey will have to see he's been limited. We'll

491
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 5: have to see if he's gonna play you or not.

492
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Speaker 5: So there are some of guys that, you know, the

493
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Speaker 5: Ravens have been banged up awfully, and you know, we'll

494
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Speaker 5: we'll see what kind of you know, what kind of

495
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Speaker 5: roster they're gonna be able to present on Sunday. But

496
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Speaker 5: whatever they put out there, you know, it's it's gonna

497
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 5: be a bar fight. I mean, that's what these games are.

498
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Speaker 5: They always have been. And you've got to be able

499
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Speaker 5: to take a punch and you've got to be able

500
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Speaker 5: to throw punches CounterPunch. So, as I said, this game

501
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Speaker 5: should have the Steelers' attention. Now we'll find out, you know,

502
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Speaker 5: if they can answer the answer the bell.

503
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Speaker 4: So I was going to ask you, what areas of

504
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Speaker 4: the team are you confident in besides the pass rush

505
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Speaker 4: in the front? Are there any at the moment.

506
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Speaker 5: I'm not. I'm not. How could you be confident in

507
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 5: the past rush? They couldn't. They didn't get to them either,

508
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 5: I know what I mean, And I'm not ripping them

509
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 5: or anything. I'm just that that is exact. So again,

510
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Speaker 5: there isn't any that. That's the thing about this team,

511
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 5: there's nothing to be confident about from one week to

512
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 5: the next. It's you know, they got to put in

513
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Speaker 5: the work and they got to show up and play

514
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 5: every time. I mean, there isn't anything you can fall

515
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Speaker 5: back on. Just like I was asked one point about

516
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Speaker 5: one of the things I said one time on the

517
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Speaker 5: pregame show was you know what they what the Steelers

518
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Speaker 5: need to develop offensively, in my mind is a small

519
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 5: menual plays that you can count on that will work.

520
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Speaker 5: But I don't think they have that.

521
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Speaker 4: No, I don't think they have. I thought they started to,

522
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Speaker 4: especially with the ground game. The Raider game to me,

523
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 4: was step one to developing some go to plays. But

524
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Speaker 4: then it feels like that got washed away right down

525
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Speaker 4: the toilet. You know.

526
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Margie Harris played well against the Texans

527
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Speaker 5: and Spurts, you know what I mean, And because there

528
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Speaker 5: were a lot of times where he was fighting for

529
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Speaker 5: his life just to get back to the line of scrimmage.

530
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Speaker 5: I mean, and that and that to me is an

531
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Speaker 5: it's proof that you really can't come on the running

532
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Speaker 5: game or feel good about it. I think, isn't that

533
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Speaker 5: the way you phrased it, that feel good about Okay? Well,

534
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 5: you know, there's there's too many instances that you can

535
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Speaker 5: cite where, you know, a simple handoff to a running back,

536
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Speaker 5: he's got to break free tackles to get back to

537
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Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage. I mean that that shouldn't happen,

538
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Speaker 5: not as often as it does. Let me say that. So,

539
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Speaker 5: uh yeah, And you know last week against the Texans,

540
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Speaker 5: the edge guys no sacks. I don't, I don't really they.

541
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Speaker 3: Got off a lot on the edge too, to allow

542
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Speaker 3: from outside runs.

543
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Speaker 5: And yeah, right, and some you know, one of the

544
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Speaker 5: other things that I think I saw, uh was and

545
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Speaker 5: this will be fatal on Sunday. I ended up behind

546
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Speaker 5: the quarterback. Yeah yeah, you end up behind Lamar Jackson.

547
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Speaker 5: Forget about it. Yeah, forget about it. You can't catch him,

548
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 5: you know. I mean this the pass rush on Sunday.

549
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Speaker 5: You know, and I've used this analogy in previous Ravens

550
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 5: games since the Ravens have, you know, gone to Lamar

551
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Speaker 5: Jackson as their quarterback. It has to be like an

552
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Speaker 5: anaconda or a python. You know, you have to kind

553
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Speaker 5: of just kind of slowly encircle and then just squeeze.

554
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Speaker 5: And that's how that's how the snake gets the life

555
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Speaker 5: out of its prey. Well, that's the way they better

556
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Speaker 5: proach Lamar Jackson because if guys aren't in you know,

557
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 5: we talk about being in their gaps and being in

558
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Speaker 5: their lanes against the run. Well, if you're not in

559
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 5: your gap or you're laying rushing him, I mean, he's

560
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 5: in the secondary problems. You're not gonna you know, you're

561
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Speaker 5: not gonna know, and and I don't, you know, I

562
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Speaker 5: don't I don't even know if a spy would work.

563
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Speaker 5: Who you're gonna use? I mean, who can Who can

564
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 5: you expect to be in the middle of the field

565
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Speaker 5: with Lamar Jackson in the open field and track him

566
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Speaker 5: down on a consistent basis. I mean, I don't think

567
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Speaker 5: that that's a realistic expectation to assign that to someone.

568
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the only guy you could use to spy him

569
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Speaker 3: would be making Fitzpatrick.

570
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Speaker 2: And you don't want to do that. He's doing he's

571
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Speaker 2: doing make his Patrick in the back end hopefully. Yeah, yeah, Bob.

572
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Speaker 3: To me, everybody wants to focus on the offense, the offense,

573
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Speaker 3: the offense, and I get it, it's not been good enough.

574
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Speaker 3: How is a defense getting a pass here? They're twenty

575
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Speaker 3: nine in defense too.

576
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Speaker 5: Oh, you know, I don't. That's why when you know,

577
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 5: Matt asked about what you're comfortable with, and you know,

578
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 5: you mentioned the pass rush of the outside guys and

579
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Speaker 5: I said, no, I'm not, And you're right, deal, I mean,

580
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Speaker 5: there isn't really, there isn't anything that that you can

581
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Speaker 5: The only thing I would say is Boswell, I'm confident

582
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 5: in him and he's not only been very accurate, but

583
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 5: all his kickoffs guard of the end zone. So anything

584
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Speaker 5: that he is personally responsible for, I would say that

585
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 5: I am comfortable, slash confident in it's happening the way

586
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 5: it's supposed to happen. Outside of that, really, I can't

587
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 5: think of anything. You're right, deal. I mean, the defense

588
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 5: is not you know, there are some the defense. In

589
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 5: my mind, if I was to describe it, it's it

590
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 5: has the potential to be dynamic, but it's not, you know,

591
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 5: And it's inconsistently.

592
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: It's been all or all or nothing.

593
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: Either you get the splash plays or you get splash

594
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Speaker 3: plays on the other side of it.

595
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 4: If the defense gets splashed, the team is in it.

596
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 4: If the defense doesn't get splashed, they get beat up.

597
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, and it's not just giving up splash.

598
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 5: As you mentioned, there's there's too much ball possession, moving

599
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 5: the ball down the field too. For my case, you know,

600
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 5: consistently moving. You know, I don't think the defense has

601
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 5: been very good, well not good enough, let me say,

602
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 5: in the red zone either. I mean there's not even

603
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Speaker 5: something where you can count on well you know that

604
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 5: mcclan well, a lot of times they don't right.

605
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: And like the opening drive of the game against Detections, everybody,

606
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 3: everybody wants to say, well, the offense isn't doing anything.

607
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 3: You're leaving the defense on the field too much. The

608
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: first quarter against Detections, the offense had one possession, The

609
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: defense gave up a touchdown and a field goal drive.

610
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 3: The offense had one position. They actually picked up two

611
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: first downs, but they were never on the field. They

612
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: had one possession in an entire quarter because the defense

613
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: couldn't get off the field right.

614
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 5: And as I said earlier, you know, your offense it

615
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 5: is what it is. I mean, you want it to

616
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 5: be more efficient in what it is, but it's not

617
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Speaker 5: like a ben offense. As I said, there's no racing.

618
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 5: You know, there would have been the potential in Houston,

619
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Speaker 5: say if once Okay, you defer your kickoff to the Texas,

620
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 5: they march down the field and score. You know, maybe

621
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Speaker 5: with Ben come back and get some points, maybe you

622
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 5: tie the game, maybe you kick a field goal. Maybe

623
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 5: you know you can get something. But without that, you know,

624
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 5: you have to work for everything you're getting. And you know,

625
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 5: when it's inefficient as it has been, as you mentioned,

626
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 5: it's not a it wasn't a disastrous possession, but it

627
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 5: didn't yield any points. And now the defense uh gives up,

628
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 5: gives up another possession for the Texans and ends in points.

629
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Speaker 5: Now you've got problems. So you know, it was just

630
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Speaker 5: not it was not a good day at all in

631
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Speaker 5: any way. And there's a lot of different things. I mean,

632
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 5: if you want to, what do you want to, you know,

633
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 5: focus on to complain about it pretty much anywhere you want,

634
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 5: No seriously, you know fans, uh sometimes they'll complain about something.

635
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 5: You know. My point is, you know, if you want to,

636
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 5: let's at least complain about things that are legitimately problems

637
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 5: as opposed to you know, manufacturing things or I don't know,

638
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 5: just getting getting involved in too much social media type stuff.

639
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 5: Is the way I refer to it. Uh so again,

640
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 5: you know, we're gonna have to see how it works

641
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 5: out against the Ravens because I don't think there's going

642
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 5: to be anything easy that you're gonna get from this

643
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 5: Ravens defense either.

644
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 4: I mean you can we.

645
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 5: Can point to you know, whatever they're outside pass rush

646
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 5: isn't that great, or the guys who they're counting on

647
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 5: for that have been injured. You know, they have injuries

648
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 5: in the secondary whatever, you know, Marlon Humphrey and the

649
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 5: other guy. Yeah right, yeah, so but still, uh you know, again,

650
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 5: I don't know that there's gonna be a lot that's

651
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 5: gonna come easy, you know, against this Ravens defense. And

652
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 5: and you know it's Craig Wolfey always said this is

653
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 5: one of those two chin strap games for the defense.

654
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 5: Can't arm tackle any of these running backs and if

655
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 5: you can't make mistakes against this quarterback. No.

656
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: I think they got embarrassed last week. And typically when

657
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,959
Speaker 3: you know a team gets embarrassed like that, you do

658
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: see a better for lack of a better term, better effort,

659
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: but you see a better outing the next time out.

660
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: And I thought that's what Mike Tomlin was calling them out.

661
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: They say, we got out physical in the game on Sunday. Typically,

662
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 3: when that happens and the coach starts bringing physicality into it,

663
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 3: you see the players respond. Do you expect to see that?

664
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean and for me, you know, I my

665
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 5: years perked up when I heard Mike Thomlins post game

666
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 5: in Houston because to me, and this has been something

667
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 5: that I really kind of picked up on last year

668
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 5: when he was very disgruntled with the play of the

669
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 5: inside linebackers, he started talking about the pile falling the

670
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 5: wrong way. Yeah, that's why Devin Bush isn't here anymore,

671
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 5: and Spall ain't in here anymore. You know, a lot

672
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 5: of those kinds of things that that to me, was

673
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 5: the catalyst for remaking that whole position. So as soon

674
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 5: as he said that in Houston, I thought, Oh, he's

675
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 5: saying that they got handled at the line of scrimmage again,

676
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 5: And that's you know, because to me, that's code. You know,

677
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 5: he's not gonna say, I don't believe you know, we

678
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 5: got we got our physical did the line of scrimmage?

679
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 5: He's gonna say, Yeah, the pile was falling, falling the

680
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 5: wrong way. And that's the same thing. You know, people

681
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 5: don't understand what that means, then you know they should

682
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 5: pay attention more.

683
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: It's kind of like the people who were looking for

684
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 3: him to come out Tuesday and announce a bunch of changes, Well,

685
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: he's not.

686
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: Going to do that.

687
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: He's not gonna come out and tell the Ravens. Yeah,

688
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: we're gonna do that. We're gonna we're gonna pull this guy.

689
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: We're gonna guy in the line up and play that guy.

690
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: Not gonna happen.

691
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 5: Well, you know, whoever does? You know? Coaches haven't have

692
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 5: been guarded and at every level of football since you know,

693
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 5: they invented, uh you know, but you know, so, yeah,

694
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 5: you're right, you're not gonna because you think John Harbaugh

695
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 5: is gonna tell you who's going to be playing this week.

696
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's but it's sometimes I think in those

697
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 5: press conferences there's too much interest in trying to get

698
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 5: the next question asked than there is in listening to

699
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 5: the previous answer. Boom, to hearing what he is saying,

700
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 5: because that, to me was the whole mojo thing too.

701
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 5: You know how many times I don't know, to me

702
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 5: it's double digit times have I written that he has

703
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin has said stuff like, you know, there's nothing

704
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 5: mystical about you know, we we prepare, we practice, we play,

705
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 5: you know, blivable and then so now all of a

706
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 5: sudden he's talking about mojo. Well, I got to what

707
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 5: do you mean by that? You know you always say

708
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 5: that you know there's nothing mystical. Well, you look up

709
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 5: mojo in the dictionary, and that's.

710
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: What it is. Mystical. Yeah, right, well, and.

711
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 5: So but I mean, those are the kinds of things

712
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 5: to me that yeah, I don't know. Sometimes people lose

713
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 5: their they don't keep their eye on the ball, so

714
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 5: to speak. And uh so a lot of that kind

715
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 5: of stuff to me is I don't I won't even

716
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 5: call it elevator music because it's just as I said,

717
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 5: sometimes in those press conferences, people are too interested and

718
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 5: hearing themselves ask the next question as as opposed to

719
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 5: being or concentrating on what he's saying and then trying

720
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 5: to understand it as a to because as you mentioned, deal,

721
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 5: he's not gonna he's not gonna lay it out. Coaches

722
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 5: don't do that. I mean I was in the room.

723
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 5: There's that, you know. I actually made an NFL Films

724
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 5: clip when Chuck Nole was asked about his future. Guy

725
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 5: from the Pittsburgh Press asked him, you know, I'm paraphrasing,

726
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 5: you know, pretty much as the game passed you by,

727
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 5: no one got up and walked out. I mean, you

728
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 5: know that stuff happens. It's happened forever.

729
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: Right forever, right, Yeah, it's just yeah, I hear you.

730
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 3: It's it's it's sometimes very frustrating, but that's what we

731
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 3: have to shift through when the team's losing. I mean,

732
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: if the team loses, everything's fair game.

733
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 5: Well that's another famous Chuck no line. When you lose

734
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 5: everything about everything they say about you is true.

735
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 3: Bob, We've we kept you long enough here. We're just

736
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 3: happy to be able to finally get you on the air.

737
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 3: We have to do this again, maybe next week or

738
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: the week after.

739
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: We'll see sounds good.

740
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: Our guest has been Bob Labriola, the editor of Steelers Digested,

741
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 3: Steelers dot Com. It's been doing this a long long time,

742
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 3: and yeah, it goes back to the Chuck Nole era.

743
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: We appreciate Bob stopping by. You're listening to the drive

744
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: here on Steelers Nation Radio. He's Matt Williamson, I'm Dale Lolly.

745
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 3: We'll be back with more right after this, welcome back.

746
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: I am Dale LOLLI. He is the Matt Williamson and

747
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: I appreciate Bob Labriola stopping by there. We finally got

748
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 3: him over the air, and Hey Steeler fans, you can

749
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,400
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750
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752
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753
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754
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Speaker 3: at shop dot Steelers dot com. Matt, we have, as

755
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 3: Bob mentioned as we were on the air there, I

756
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: saw the Ravens practice pop into my into my inbox there.

757
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: Jalen Armoir Davis. He was limited yesterday with a hamstring.

758
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 3: He was a full participant today. He's one of their cornerbacks.

759
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

760
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 4: I liked him coming out of Bama last year.

761
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: Wide receiver, Yeah, wide receiver for Shad Bateman was a

762
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: full participant for the second straight day.

763
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 4: I gotta be excited to get him at least back

764
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 4: out there, and yeah, he could do. He's been such

765
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 4: an incomplete grade since he's been the league.

766
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: Odell Beckham limited for the second consecutive I thought he

767
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 3: had nothing yet.

768
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: He was limited limited in both days. I don't think

769
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: he plays.

770
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 4: I have no clue, but yeah, I mean they've they

771
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 4: really have gotten so little from those two receivers.

772
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: Justice Hill with the foot and hamstring limited again today.

773
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 4: He's their big play guy. Yeah, you know, swing guy.

774
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 4: I mean he's very different than Gus Edwards. Of course.

775
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 3: Marlon Humphrey with the foot was limited again today.

776
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 4: All right, he hasn't played yet.

777
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 2: He hasn't played yet the season.

778
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 4: That one's I mean, it was pretty bad injury.

779
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: Yeah again you have foot surgery. That tells me you

780
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: may have been a Liz Frank or something like that.

781
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 4: That I mean, I'm definitely attacking him if he's on

782
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 4: the field.

783
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

784
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 5: Uh.

785
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: Morgan Moses did not practice on Wednesday. He was limited today.

786
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: He's dealing with the shoulder injury. That's their their right tackle.

787
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 4: That's the one I was most curious about. Yeah, I

788
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,479
Speaker 4: mean the right tackle versus Watt.

789
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 3: Of course, like to know which arm it is or

790
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 3: which sure, yeah, is it the outside shoulder? Because if so, TJ,

791
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 3: what's going to attack that if it's the inside shoulder,

792
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: then watch can attack there.

793
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 4: They might be crossing his face and stunts and things

794
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 4: like that.

795
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: So that's that's the interesting to note there, because you know,

796
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 3: when you have let's say it's a muscle strain or

797
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: let's you know, whatever it may be, TJ Wat's going

798
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 3: to test the edge of it.

799
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: He's gonna make your he's gonna make your reach. It's

800
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: gonna hurt.

801
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 4: It's gonna hurt. I mean, TJ is enough of a

802
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 4: problem as it is, and I expect him to have

803
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 4: a huge day either way after being quiet this past week.

804
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 4: But yeah, that would be good to know. And I'm

805
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 4: sure the Steelers will figure that out.

806
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure they do know which shoulder it is.

807
00:39:59,080 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 4: I'm sure you just watched it.

808
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, favorite which one he's on? Uh?

809
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 3: Doffy o'doffy Owa did not participate. He's not playing this one.

810
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: That's there. They're one of their ed rushers. The other

811
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: reg rusher is out, Jabo is out. He's on.

812
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 3: Ir Ronnie Stanley practiced in full again today.

813
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 2: The left tackle. Yeah, terrible shape.

814
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 3: Marcus Williams a full participant today with the pectorial muscle pictor.

815
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: He didn't play though last week.

816
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 4: I know, I know, really good player, but it doesn't

817
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 4: sound like it was. Why didn't play last week?

818
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think they want that to turn into

819
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: something something that it turns into a season ending injury.

820
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 3: And then the guy who replaced him was Darryl Worley.

821
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: He did not participate participate again today. He has the

822
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Speaker 3: shoulder and the game. Yeah, he got banged up in games.

823
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: So all in all, they're not in terrible shape. But uh, Beckham,

824
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 3: Justice Hill, Marlon Humphrey, Morgan, Moses all limited away and

825
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 3: Worley did not practice.

826
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Speaker 4: So a Jabo and Dobbins are on IR. But this

827
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 4: might be the healthiest they've been on a Thursday all year.

828
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 4: I mean, that's how kind of how the Ravens have gone. Yeah,

829
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 4: they're not in terrible shape. We'll see who plays. That

830
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 4: sounds like Odell's highly questionable.

831
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 3: But yeah, I would bet that's where he's leaning, leaning

832
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 3: towards questionable. And people need to understand, like the designations

833
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 3: now they have their stuff, they've changed a little bit.

834
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 3: A couple of years ago. This is basically during the

835
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: COVID era, the league took the probable completely out of

836
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 3: it because you used to see guys listens probably everybody.

837
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, he put every Yeah, New England stood all the time.

838
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

839
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 4: I think Brady was probably like a million weeks in

840
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 4: a row.

841
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 3: A questionable designation. So you're either full go or you're questionable,

842
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: or you're doubtful. Where you're out, they've they've taken you're

843
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 3: either not on the injury report at all, you're questionable,

844
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: doubtful or out. Yes, used to be probable on there,

845
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: So if you're questionable, that's supposed to mean it's it's

846
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 3: a less than fifty to fifty percent. It used to be, well,

847
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: that used to be when it was when it when

848
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 3: when you had the probable listing, Probable was considered seventy

849
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: five percent chance he's going to play.

850
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: Questionable was fifty to fifty doubtful, was.

851
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 3: Probably not going to play, and then and then out

852
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: was out. I just how the Steelers have handled this,

853
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: and I think this is at the behest of the league,

854
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 3: is if you're questionable, uh, and they don't change the designation,

855
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: you're probably not going to play, okay, because if you

856
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: if you remember over the last few years, when the

857
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 3: Steelers have enlisted somebody on a Friday as a questionable,

858
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: then they have their Saturday walkthrough and a lot of

859
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: times they would either upgrade or downgrade. Somebody, sure you

860
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: can change a day, you change that designation to either

861
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 3: no designation or out.

862
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 4: I wonder, and I bet the answer is yes. That

863
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 4: if any team has a long streak or a really

864
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 4: high percentage of questionable players that play or don't.

865
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: Then the league starts to investigate a little bit. Why

866
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: your question your game in the system here?

867
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's definitely an honor code there a little bit,

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Speaker 4: but if one team is particularly strong one way or another,

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Speaker 4: because what they.

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Speaker 3: Don't want is what New England did used to do,

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Speaker 3: where they list fourteen guys as questionable and then they

872
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Speaker 3: all play.

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Speaker 4: And they're all practicing at full and yeah they're all

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Speaker 4: probable or questionable. I also seem maybe I'm wrong, but

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Speaker 4: it seems like there's less names doubtful than there used

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Speaker 4: to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because you either they don't even bother with

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Speaker 3: doubtful now they just listen to his.

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Speaker 4: Out, just out pretty much know he's not going to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now, if you get upgraded from doubtful to questionable, that's

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Speaker 3: noteworthy as well. But does Typically if you're questionable now

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Speaker 3: there's probably more like a forty percent chance that you

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Speaker 3: play as opposed to fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 4: So who are we thinking is doubtful for the Steelers?

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Speaker 3: Uh Farremouth is out, like more is out those two

887
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Speaker 3: have been I would bet James Daniels looks like he's

888
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Speaker 3: he seems like trending towards out. Yeah, he may be

889
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Speaker 3: listed as doubtful, but he'll end up getting probably downgraded

890
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Speaker 3: to out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, or doubtful. I guess if they've made

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Speaker 4: that official.

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Speaker 3: Well, he hasn't practiced all week long, he's probably out. Yeah,

894
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Speaker 3: unless he's able to practice tomorrow and then we'll see.

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Speaker 3: Uh with leol with the concussion protocol.

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Speaker 4: And Heismith popping up there doesn't make me thrilled, But

897
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say he's doubt for anything.

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Speaker 2: No, not yet.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this could be just a little soreness in

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Speaker 3: the in the groin. They decided not to practice him today,

901
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Speaker 3: so they got to list him on the report is

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Speaker 3: not practicing.

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Speaker 4: Then you wouldn't risk him if he's closed at this point.

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Speaker 3: Because the league watches these things very closely, very closely.

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Speaker 4: There's some folks Vegas that do too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the stuff with with Deshaun Watson last

907
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Speaker 3: week being listed as questionable all week long and then

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Speaker 3: they and they listen him as questionable for the game

909
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Speaker 3: and they say, oh, no, he's not playing.

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Speaker 4: Him and car were odd because it went back and

911
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Speaker 4: forth even on Sunday, Oh he's playing, Oh he's not.

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00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 4: Ian Rapport says he's playing. Scheffer says it's not. You're like,

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Speaker 4: what's going on here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's what they don't want. The league wants

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Speaker 3: this to be pretty cut and dried, and so they should.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean you again, you don't want.

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Speaker 3: Teams getting a competitive advantage over each other by gaming

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Speaker 3: the system.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing. You don't want to be lying to

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Speaker 4: each other and putting out false advertising base.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they do want this to be kind

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Speaker 3: of transparent when it comes to those kind of injuries.

923
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Speaker 3: So now they should and you better right, Hey, Steeler fans,

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Speaker 3: we got the YenS chat. I got a I probably

925
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Speaker 3: should have called this up before I started talking about it.

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Speaker 3: And today's question if you log on, is Cordell Stewart

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Speaker 3: or Ben Roethlisberger who threw the longest pass in a

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Speaker 3: game versus the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: I know the answer to this one. I even know

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Speaker 2: who caught it. N I do.

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Speaker 4: You're way better at this than I am. I would

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Speaker 4: always vote against Ben because he just seems too obvious.

939
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Speaker 4: Like I always say, that's one of those things when

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Speaker 4: you're a bad student, you just kind of learn how

941
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Speaker 4: people write tests, Like I don't really know the answer,

942
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Speaker 4: but I think he's trying to trick me by making

943
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Speaker 4: this one too obvious, you know.

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Speaker 3: Well, the interesting thing is tomorrow's question is who did

945
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Speaker 3: have that longest question reception in the game versus the Ravens?

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Speaker 2: And I knew the answer before going to Yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: so we'll get to that tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: And he we're going to get to a break. He

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Speaker 3: is Matt Williams, and I am Dale Lellye. You're listening

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