WEBVTT - Austin Crowd Rocks Dynamite 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:08.119 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:16.360 let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:19.760 here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:23.200 Monday through Friday, Noop Civic three Eastern Sunday, three Pacific, 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.880 sixth Eastern Thursday, here in this show. And you know 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:28.360 that means we got a lot to talk about here today, 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:33.640 including last night's Dynamite and uh, fella here on the 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.519 chat says, I was there last night. Austin crowds are 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:38.920 some of the best for wrestling. Did it come across 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:45.239 that way on TV? Sure, ded brother. In fact, I 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.599 thought the show last night. I thought it was awesome. 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.040 Although there was one thing on the show it was 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:55.120 just like preposterous, but overall, I thought the show was 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.520 great and uh in fact, the show was so great 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.120 that when the match when the show was over, they 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:06.600 made an announcement that I immediately thought, oh man, oh man, 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.600 And you know it involves old Ricky Starks, but we're 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.920 gonna get to that here on the show today. Go 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:18.400 through all of the results from the Dynamite show, we've 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.640 got the n x T ratings, So these Dynamite ratings 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:23.800 are gonna be out in a while, and this could 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:25.720 be a nutty day on my Twitter. So I recommend 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.200 everybody makes some plans for the afternoon. You know it's 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:31.959 good Top Pot Donuts. Go there and get a donut 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:38.000 and drink some coffee, chill out, don't panic because this 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:44.360 n x T number sucked because all week Rampage sucked, 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:50.080 SmackDown sucked, Raw sucked, n x T sucked. So I'm 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.800 thinking it may not be good for that Dynamite number. 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:54.640 And then of course you know it's gonna freak out. 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.880 Oh it's a great show. Didn't do a great number. Everybody, 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:03.000 go get a donut, get some coffee, maybe get some alcohol, 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:07.120 enjoy the holidays, spend time with your loved ones, and 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:09.720 then we'll talk about more wrestling later on. Got it. 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:12.919 So we've also got sewn. Michael's doing a media call, 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:17.240 Becky Lynch update on her shoulder, Sasha Banks is gonna 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:21.880 be at the Tokyo Dome. What. Yeah, We'll talk about 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.240 all this and more after the breakups of her live. 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.480 You're listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez and 0:02:54.520 --> 0:03:01.640 Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network baring the show. 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:05.320 Brian Elber is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike SEPPERBBI also 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:10.240 Wrestling Observer dot Com. If I may, I gotta talk 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:14.959 about old Ricky Starks, Hey, listen, I thought Dynamite was great. 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:17.920 And I don't want people to take this as a 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:25.400 criticism because sometimes we see things in a w Michael 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:30.120 Swerve agreeing a team or Keith Lee Agreen swerve with 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.400 the team or with you. You You know, I'm trying to say, 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:37.200 and it's like what But sometimes things happen. You don't 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.920 know they're going to happen, and they happen and it's 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:47.840 too late. Okay. So last night they did the Dynamite 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:54.280 Diamond Battle Royal, Okay, and the the gimmick was whoever 0:03:54.360 --> 0:04:00.440 wins can choose the time and place to face m 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:08.680 JF for the Dynamite Dynamite Diamond Ring Tongue Twister, and 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.400 everyone's talking about, you know, I want to do this 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.280 with that. So going into the Battle Royal, Ricky Starks 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:18.760 and already won a match against m JF which is 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.080 going to take place at Winter is Coming so he 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.039 wanted to go in win the right to uh to 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.920 fight for the ring and take everything away from m JF. 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:34.120 And that was his goal. Okay, so you know it 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.719 was only a couple of days ago on this chat 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:41.520 that somebody said what am I? What am I missing? 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:46.400 And Ricky Starks? What am I not seeing? And do 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.200 you remember what we said? We said, you ain't seeing 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:53.320 enough of him? That's the issue. Okay, dude, this guy 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:57.320 and granted they were in Austin, Texas. This guy came 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:01.360 out and dude, he was so over and he was 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:07.000 so over in that Battle Royal and then he won 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.880 the Battle Royal, and man, they went nuts when he 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:14.440 won that Battle Royal. And then before they can even 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:18.039 hit his music, they hit him Jeff's music. And this 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:22.359 bastard comes down to the ring and man, he starts 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:27.920 just eviscerating Ricky Starks and he makes fun of him. 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.720 He's a rock rip off. He's gonna call him the pebble. 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.599 He's gonna take that pebble. He's gonna skip it across 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.599 the ocean. He's gonna beat him, and he's gonna he's 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:40.920 just he's bearing this guy. He's just eviscerating him. And 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.680 then Ricky Starks walks by this dude and he shoulder 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:47.600 checks him and he picks up the mic. You know, 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:53.000 we all knew that Ricky could talk okay, but my god, 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.560 the promo did this guy cut on m JF. He 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:01.760 sliced this guy. He sliced this guy like supermarket ham. 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.520 You ever seen that machine they have in the supermarket. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:05.960 Put that big old thing a ham and it slices 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:11.160 and dices that thing up. He just holy smokes. And 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:15.119 then this crowd is like they're they're volcanic at this point, 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.240 and man, he does the old thing and then this 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:23.000 bastard kicks him in the balls and he kicks him 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.800 in the balls and he goes for something or other 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:30.760 and Ricky Starks response and he spears MJF out of 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:36.080 his shoes and the building is shaking, and m JF 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.520 bails out of the ring and away he goes, I 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.840 watched something out, My god. First off, like you don 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.359 want to talk about star making performances. You want to 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.640 talk about I'm not even joking. This was the promo 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:50.360 of a lifetime for Ricky Starks. It was the right 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:55.040 promo in front of the right crowd at the right time. 0:06:56.200 --> 0:07:01.400 It was unbelievable. So I'm man, I'm on a high. 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.919 I'm watching this show, and you know, I'm enjoying the show, 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:08.440 and they had a great main event. And anyway, shortly 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.440 before the show ends, there's a graphic up on the 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.760 screen and it says next week at Winner is coming, 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:21.120 it's Ricky Starks versus m JF. And it is winner 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:29.640 take All. It is one match for the belt and 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:34.200 the ring. Now listen, it ain't the end of the world. 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.600 It's not that big a deal. Okay. I'm not sitting 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:41.720 here going like you know, this place is nothing like that. Okay. 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.560 But and the other thing is, you know, they had 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.880 this plan that that was gonna be the match next week, 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:49.880 and you know, when they had the graphic up and 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:53.240 everything like that, I don't think anybody had any idea 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:58.320 how big this promo segment was gonna be for Ricky 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:03.480 Starks Man. When this was over, I thought, dude, listen, listen, 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:08.240 you know they should have done They should have done 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:14.400 exactly what they did. And ironsight and MGF punts his 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.280 dude in the balls. He goes for whatever he's gonna do. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:22.080 Ricky starts, spears him out of his shoes. MJFF bails 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.880 on the outside, and then Ricky grabs him Mike, and 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:26.800 he goes, get me a referee down here right now. 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:30.360 I want my match for the ring. And MGF gets 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:34.800 in the ring and you do a quick whatever and 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:36.920 the referee poked in the iro or whatever. He's not 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.920 looking for a second and MJFF reaches into his trunks 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:41.880 and he pulls out that ring and he puts he's 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.679 gonna go to put the ring on the finger, and 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:49.080 Ricky comme bam boots him. The ring goes flying like 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.760 the Lord of the Rings. Ricky starts, scrabs the ring, 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:57.800 puts it on his finger, Boom punches. M jeff knocks 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:03.000 him out, covers him one, two three. The whole building 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:09.080 collapses like that Arena Mexico show. Ricky starks wins the ring. 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:16.520 The place goes nuts, and now he's pinned m JF. 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.679 You know he can do it. MJF got foiled in 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:23.920 his own game. Ricky has gotten the ring. Next week 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.600 you do the championship match, and who cares? Ricky does 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:29.439 a great you know they do next week? Is Ricky, 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:34.280 you know whatever? Something that happens, Ricky does whatever. Actually 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:38.200 had an idea, but forget it doesn't matter. MJFF beats him. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:42.280 Who gives who almost in a bad word. Ricky's gotta 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:46.040 win over m JF. He's won the ring. It solves 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.480 the problem. We've had a thousand times where the fans 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:52.400 really want to get behind a guy you won't. Rugg 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:54.360 gets yanked out from under him in one way or 0:09:54.400 --> 0:10:00.199 the other. Whatever, dude, Yeah, next week, next week, m 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.160 Jeff doesn't have the ring anymore. But you know what, 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:06.640 he's got regals nuts. He pulls out them nuts. Boom. 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.640 Now he hits Ricky to get his revenge. Ricky kicks out, 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.559 place goes crazy. Then you do whatever you're gonna do, 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.520 and MGF gets him in the end or whatever. But man, 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.960 you had the opportunity or you told us there would 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.440 be two matches. You told us that Ricky was gonna 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.760 get his match, and you told us that whoever won 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:25.440 the Battle Royal was gonna get a shot of the ring. 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.880 And in different matches, Ricky could have got his win 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.640 leading into next week. Next week, you beat him. Who 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:33.720 cares he has a great match. You already beat him. Jiff, 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:37.560 he got something out of it. Ah, whatever, it's gonna 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.960 be fine. It's gonna be fine. But man, I saw 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.840 that reaction for for Ricky Starks and was like, dude, 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:48.559 they want him, they want him, And the only thing 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:52.120 I heard from people was you can't beat MJF right now? 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:56.400 Why you guys have so little faith in MGF that 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.240 he can't put over Ricky for the ring, getting knocked 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.439 out with his own ring and then going on to 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.120 beat Ricky next week in a championship match. Bro, if 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:07.240 this guy is any good, which he is, he'll be 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.240 fine putting a guy over for the ring and then 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.880 winning the world title. Whatever. But I think they should 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:16.840 have done that. And a w fans are used to 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.840 short title reigns, so you do have the excuse there, 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:23.320 because that's really the only excuse you have going against 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.559 title Rady. He'll he'll retain the title. No, But I'm 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.040 saying if people that want to belt up Ricky Starks 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:30.840 and have him do the winner take All and he 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.400 walks away with it, and it's just to me, that's 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.760 too early. But this is a few that I've wanted. 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.240 I hope it's a few that's going to continue to 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.520 go and I would have booked it in the exact 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.160 same way that you did, so you could continue to 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.840 get mileage out of it and continue to build and build. 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:49.840 I don't know what their grand plan is. Tony conn 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.720 always talks about booking so much in advance, and you know, 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:54.840 then having plans screwed up in this and that. But 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.680 you know what, maybe that's why pencils come with the racers. 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:59.880 And if he didn't have more of a plan for 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.160 Key Starks, you better come up with one, because even 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:04.880 if he loses here and you take him out of 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.280 the mix with m JF, one thing that a W 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:11.120 has done a horrible job with many people is following up. 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:14.400 Ricky Starks can continue to be a Stark, can continue 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.520 to be a threat, but he needs to have somebody 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.840 to work with. He needs to have something going on 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:22.360 that keeps him at the top of the game. Macking 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:53.040 aman with more observer live, well, we might as well 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:56.000 do the rest of the dynamite. So they had that 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.160 opening segment was awesome. We talked about I don't have 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:03.520 much more to add there. I do, actually, because one 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.199 of the things that people always talked about when it 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.920 comes to Ricky Starks is his size, and the man 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:13.720 is lean, he's built narrow, okay, and that's how that goes. 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:17.240 But did you notice standing next to m JF that 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:20.640 he was just as tall, if not taller than m JF. 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.120 He's a smaller guy. We're in an Arab smaller guys 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.480 that should not be a notch against Ricky Starks with 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.800 what that guy brings to the table. And once again, 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.560 I just want to beat this home again to anybody 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.480 from a W who may be listening to this. Some 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:41.120 of your follow ups have sucked, and with Hangman Page, 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.240 you're really lucky in some of the ways that you've 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.520 booked him in that he is an original and there's 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.280 almost nothing you can do for the most part, I think, 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.680 for the most die hard a W fan, almost nothing 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:52.480 you can never do to hurt Hangman Page. But you 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:59.200 can hurt Ricky Starks. And he has not been bastardized 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.400 in any way since he's been there. For the most part. 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.439 You know, he got hurt. He had the good stuff 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.959 with Does. There were things that he had going on 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.439 with Cody. He had some good things, but he did 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:13.200 get hurt. But he's been basically a clean character who 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.160 is nice and fresh and the fans are begging for 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.840 it right now. There is nobody to move numbers right 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.920 now for a w There's nobody to move numbers in 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.840 head all for wrestling right now with what it seems like. 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:31.680 But they they need powerful segments every time out. They 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.680 need as many big names as they can get. Danielson, 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.440 m j F, Moxley, all on there all the time, 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.120 intermixed with each other. And now you've got a guy 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.640 in Ricky Starks who can do that. You can't not 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:47.280 let that slide, You cannot let that fall away, and 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:51.160 if you do, you know, there's really gonna have to 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.000 be another again. It's just gonna be a a disaster. 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.000 It's not a disaster, but it's really gonna be an 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.480 embarrassment if you fumble the ball on a guy where 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.640 every body right now is begging for a little bit 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:06.240 of a run from him to do something. We had 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.880 Samoa Joe beating Darby Allen, T and T title match. 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:14.800 Samo Joe killed Darby Ellen, he killed him to death 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.720 and then he submitted him and afterwards he was going 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.800 to kill him even worse. And Wordlow came out to 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:25.440 make and say, hey, listen, if you like violence. I 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.640 swear to god, Darby would have been better off having 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.920 an mm A fight with Samoa Joe than what he 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.160 had in that match last night. I can't even tell 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.480 you how many times this dude got slammed on the cement. 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.200 You signed up for slap fight match for something easy 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.640 to do into the cement. I can tell you that 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:43.360 he's alive and apparently not seriously injured. But you know, 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:47.640 but holy smokes, you could not take your eyes off 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:52.000 the screen. You could not take it. This was as 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:55.440 bullet proof of a first forty five minutes of a 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:58.720 show for a company that has had a lot of 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.680 issues and a lot of off the screen stuff that 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:05.120 matters more than what takes place on it. They needed 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.440 to come out scorching hot, and you could say the 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.840 first forty five, if not the first hour and a 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.840 half of that show was something else. We had the 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:18.440 announcement that Orange Cassidy will be facing a wrestler of 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:23.680 Kip Sabian's choice on Friday. No spoilers, Claudio Cassioli and 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:28.680 Wheeler you ta beat Daniel Garcia and Jake Hager. When 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:32.120 Claudio pinned Hagar instead of the match with Jericho on Saturday, 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:37.560 and then we had a segment. I'm gonna talk about 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.560 this segment after the break because I think I might 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:42.440 need a little bit more time than is left in 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.840 this segment. But long story short, it was the goodbye 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:49.120 to William Regal here on this show could have left 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.720 well enough alone. We had Jade Cardill, Layla Gray and 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.960 Red Velvet beating Sky Blue, Medisine Rain and Kia Hogan, 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:00.120 and uh, you know, it was all right, it was 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.000 in the death spot. But the big question that I 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.560 had coming out of this match was what in the 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:09.199 world was the point of this match? Jade, Layla and 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:16.000 Red Velvet beat Sky, Madison and Kira when Jade pinned Madison, 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:23.760 So I don't know why Great Jade one again. I mean, 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:25.560 you know, her and Kia Hogan just had a big 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:28.760 breakup and everything like that. And one of the problems 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:32.560 with this promotion is that there are certain people that 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:38.320 they do not want to beat under absolutely positively any circumstances. 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:42.119 And in the case of Jade Cargill literally literally the 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:48.800 storyline has been her reign is boring. So maybe since 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:52.040 she just split up with Kira Hogan and since she's 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:55.520 been having issues with Red Velvet and Layla Gray on TV. 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.320 Maybe there could have been a three Stooges spot where 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:02.960 Red Velvet does whatever, Jade's attracted and Kia Hogan pins 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:06.600 Jade Cargill. Now you can do a Jade Cargil Kia 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:11.199 Hogan Championship match, but instead in her first match in 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.480 the ring with Jade since they broke up, Jay just 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.280 got the win over Madison. I don't know what it does. 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:21.760 I don't know whatever it still leaves Jaden Kira, I guess. 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:25.280 But how long was that match? Would you say? Whatever 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.399 it was, you could have cut it down to a 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:29.840 tag match. You did exactly what Brian said, so you 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:33.240 have Kira win and then filled the rest of that 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:36.479 time sprinkled throughout the show with another Ricky Starks promo 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.639 backstage saying what he's gonna do. Maybe later in the 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:43.560 show have I don't know, Britt Baker or somebody else. 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:44.840 You could have had her, and you could have had 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.159 Hayman Page. I'm not saying big, massive interviews or anything 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.320 like that, but to cut a promo or something like that, 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:52.600 I think that would have been a lot better. U 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:58.000 see your time, and then in a great main event, 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:04.560 the acclaimed faced FTR, and it was weird because, you know, 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:06.480 we talked about why was this match even on this 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.280 show as opposed to win a pay per view since 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:12.159 in theory, in theory, like if you're talking about the 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:16.639 fake world of professional wrestling, in theory, this was the 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:22.480 biggest tag team championship match on Earth. In you have 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:27.480 a team that is a triple crown champion. They're they're 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:29.679 the champions of Ring of Honor, they're the Champions of 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.480 New Japan, they're the champions of Triple A. This was 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:36.560 their chance to become a quadruple Crown champion by winning 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:39.480 the a W tag team titles, and they barely made 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.600 a big deal out of that, and then it was 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:44.199 just literally they shot the angle on rampage and they 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:48.080 did on this show. Now, with that said, this match 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.159 was awesome and they got a lot of time. It 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:55.600 started out good, then it became quite great, and then 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:58.320 in the last few minutes it was pretty much awesome. 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:02.640 And they did the flash pin where they did near fall, 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.120 near fall, near fall, near fall, go for the Big 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:09.320 rig Bones, broke up the count places going nuts, and 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:13.840 finally Castor rolls through on a power bomb and he 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:19.280 covers and pins cash Wheeler. They retain the titles clean 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:22.280 in the middle of the ring and they do the 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:28.080 stare down afterwards, Everyone's scissors. Great main event. You think 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:33.679 the show's over, but no, the Ass Boys appear on 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:37.520 the big screen. I mean, this is one of those 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:40.639 where you know, sometimes I don't know why they do something, 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:45.520 but they do it, and I'm it's just like whatever, 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:47.280 this one, I don't know why they did it, but 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:49.440 I don't care. This is gonna be a great match. 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:53.840 The Ass Boys produce an envelope. They opened it up. 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:59.160 The envelope is a message from the Briscos and they 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:02.440 pull out to colors. So on the pay per view 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:05.480 on the Ring of Honor pay per view on Saturday, 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:09.679 it will be FTR versus the Briscos in a double 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:13.280 dog color match for the Ring of Honor tag team 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:17.040 titles and whatever youthing out they set it up, that 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.879 match is gonna be awesome. It is going to be 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:23.879 a blood bath, and this may be the beginning of 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:26.639 paring down the number of titles that FTR has because 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:30.720 they've beaten the Briscoes twice and maybe it's time for 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:33.520 the Briscoes to get a win and given that there's 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:36.080 going to be an announcement after the show about a 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:40.280 Ring of Honor, I'm gonna say television. I mean, it 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:43.199 may not be on actual television, maybe streaming. It might 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:45.199 be on Our Club whatever, but there will be a 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:48.320 way to watch weekly Ring of Honor television. I guess 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:50.840 are gonna announce that after the show, And if it's 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:56.040 not on a Warner Media station, then the Briscoes can 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:58.919 be the tag team champions. So we'll see what happens 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:01.960 on Saturday. But I'm excited for that match. It certainly 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:03.960 sounds like that's what it's going to be as some 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:06.560 sort of streaming service. And even if it's not a 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:08.960 streaming service, you can still take the titles off of 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:12.240 uh fd R if you want to, because you can 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:14.760 make it a case where you're gonna have to pay 0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:16.919 to see the brisk Goes on pay per view. You're 0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:19.159 gonna actually have to go see them if R o 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:22.480 H runs a show or if our if Tony lets 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:25.359 them run in conjunction with somebody and the Briscoes show up. 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:27.560 You know, maybe that's the direction that you have to 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.000 go with it, but it is probably time to take 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:32.320 the belts off of f TR. It's probably time for 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:35.800 them to lose the CMLL titles, and they'll probably lose 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:38.719 the im B g P titles coming up here in January. 0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:42.199 And then there's the question of what do you do 0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:45.680 with FDR, because I know if they start dropping belts, 0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:48.080 people are going to say, Okay, are they leaving in April? 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:50.359 Is that when their contracts are up, and there's gonna 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:53.800 be all that speculation we've already had Dex talk about. Man, 0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:55.840 maybe I'd like to go back on the indie scene 0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:58.920 and and see what's out there again. So it could 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:00.960 either clear it for that, or it could clear it 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:03.360 for what a lot of people have been looking for 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:06.439 since day one, and that's FTR in the Young Bucks 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.240 in a long feud or at least you know by 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:12.400 a W and today's standards along feud that would lead 0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:15.119 to one of them were obviously them fighting over the 0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:19.119 tag team titles. So I know you wouldn't like spoilers, 0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:23.760 so I will not spoil obviously the result. And you 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:29.679 know what, even if Fontleroy reather the match, you you know, 0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:32.560 you might speculate about the result, but there's a John 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:36.639 Moxley to cash the match on rampage, and I heard 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:43.560 from multiple folks that this match is awesome, like one 0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:45.600 of the best John Moxley matches all the year, and 0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:49.080 this dude's had a great year. And apparently this dude 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:54.440 bled so much in this match that it took them 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:58.760 ten minutes to clean the steel steps after the match. 0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:04.240 And some lady in the crowd screaming, I quote Jesus 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:08.959 turn Mosley into wine. I guess Jesus was there watching 0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:27.240 back in a moment more Observer Live, back in the show. 0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:31.760 Brian Alberrez here Wrestling Observer Live except for Video Wrestling 0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:34.040 dot Com. Hey, you go to my Twitter at Brian Albarez. 0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:38.040 First off, sticking up there the very top is your chance, 0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:43.440 your final chance, because it's literally ending very very soon. 0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:45.760 Here I can actually tell exactly how much time is left. 0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:50.960 There is twenty three hours and forty nine minutes left 0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.639 for the final co host spot on the Brian and 0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:57.960 Vinnie Show. It's your last chance all year. If you 0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:00.520 want a bid, it's as sis right now, So now's 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:04.320 your chance. That's not too bad, so put your bid in. 0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:08.480