Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
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Speaker 1: including last night's Dynamite and uh, fella here on the
Speaker 1: chat says, I was there last night. Austin crowds are
Speaker 1: some of the best for wrestling. Did it come across
Speaker 1: that way on TV? Sure, ded brother. In fact, I
Speaker 1: thought the show last night. I thought it was awesome.
Speaker 1: Although there was one thing on the show it was
Speaker 1: just like preposterous, but overall, I thought the show was
Speaker 1: great and uh in fact, the show was so great
Speaker 1: that when the match when the show was over, they
Speaker 1: made an announcement that I immediately thought, oh man, oh man,
Speaker 1: And you know it involves old Ricky Starks, but we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to that here on the show today. Go
Speaker 1: through all of the results from the Dynamite show, we've
Speaker 1: got the n x T ratings, So these Dynamite ratings
Speaker 1: are gonna be out in a while, and this could
Speaker 1: be a nutty day on my Twitter. So I recommend
Speaker 1: everybody makes some plans for the afternoon. You know it's
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Speaker 1: and drink some coffee, chill out, don't panic because this
Speaker 1: n x T number sucked because all week Rampage sucked,
Speaker 1: SmackDown sucked, Raw sucked, n x T sucked. So I'm
Speaker 1: thinking it may not be good for that Dynamite number.
Speaker 1: And then of course you know it's gonna freak out.
Speaker 1: Oh it's a great show. Didn't do a great number. Everybody,
Speaker 1: go get a donut, get some coffee, maybe get some alcohol,
Speaker 1: enjoy the holidays, spend time with your loved ones, and
Speaker 1: then we'll talk about more wrestling later on. Got it.
Speaker 1: So we've also got sewn. Michael's doing a media call,
Speaker 1: Becky Lynch update on her shoulder, Sasha Banks is gonna
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Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer dot Com. If I may, I gotta talk
Speaker 1: about old Ricky Starks, Hey, listen, I thought Dynamite was great.
Speaker 1: And I don't want people to take this as a
Speaker 1: criticism because sometimes we see things in a w Michael
Speaker 1: Swerve agreeing a team or Keith Lee Agreen swerve with
Speaker 1: the team or with you. You You know, I'm trying to say,
Speaker 1: and it's like what But sometimes things happen. You don't
Speaker 1: know they're going to happen, and they happen and it's
Speaker 1: too late. Okay. So last night they did the Dynamite
Speaker 1: Diamond Battle Royal, Okay, and the the gimmick was whoever
Speaker 1: wins can choose the time and place to face m
Speaker 1: JF for the Dynamite Dynamite Diamond Ring Tongue Twister, and
Speaker 1: everyone's talking about, you know, I want to do this
Speaker 1: with that. So going into the Battle Royal, Ricky Starks
Speaker 1: and already won a match against m JF which is
Speaker 1: going to take place at Winter is Coming so he
Speaker 1: wanted to go in win the right to uh to
Speaker 1: fight for the ring and take everything away from m JF.
Speaker 1: And that was his goal. Okay, so you know it
Speaker 1: was only a couple of days ago on this chat
Speaker 1: that somebody said what am I? What am I missing?
Speaker 1: And Ricky Starks? What am I not seeing? And do
Speaker 1: you remember what we said? We said, you ain't seeing
Speaker 1: enough of him? That's the issue. Okay, dude, this guy
Speaker 1: and granted they were in Austin, Texas. This guy came
Speaker 1: out and dude, he was so over and he was
Speaker 1: so over in that Battle Royal and then he won
Speaker 1: the Battle Royal, and man, they went nuts when he
Speaker 1: won that Battle Royal. And then before they can even
Speaker 1: hit his music, they hit him Jeff's music. And this
Speaker 1: bastard comes down to the ring and man, he starts
Speaker 1: just eviscerating Ricky Starks and he makes fun of him.
Speaker 1: He's a rock rip off. He's gonna call him the pebble.
Speaker 1: He's gonna take that pebble. He's gonna skip it across
Speaker 1: the ocean. He's gonna beat him, and he's gonna he's
Speaker 1: just he's bearing this guy. He's just eviscerating him. And
Speaker 1: then Ricky Starks walks by this dude and he shoulder
Speaker 1: checks him and he picks up the mic. You know,
Speaker 1: we all knew that Ricky could talk okay, but my god,
Speaker 1: the promo did this guy cut on m JF. He
Speaker 1: sliced this guy. He sliced this guy like supermarket ham.
Speaker 1: You ever seen that machine they have in the supermarket.
Speaker 1: Put that big old thing a ham and it slices
Speaker 1: and dices that thing up. He just holy smokes. And
Speaker 1: then this crowd is like they're they're volcanic at this point,
Speaker 1: and man, he does the old thing and then this
Speaker 1: bastard kicks him in the balls and he kicks him
Speaker 1: in the balls and he goes for something or other
Speaker 1: and Ricky Starks response and he spears MJF out of
Speaker 1: his shoes and the building is shaking, and m JF
Speaker 1: bails out of the ring and away he goes, I
Speaker 1: watched something out, My god. First off, like you don
Speaker 1: want to talk about star making performances. You want to
Speaker 1: talk about I'm not even joking. This was the promo
Speaker 1: of a lifetime for Ricky Starks. It was the right
Speaker 1: promo in front of the right crowd at the right time.
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. So I'm man, I'm on a high.
Speaker 1: I'm watching this show, and you know, I'm enjoying the show,
Speaker 1: and they had a great main event. And anyway, shortly
Speaker 1: before the show ends, there's a graphic up on the
Speaker 1: screen and it says next week at Winner is coming,
Speaker 1: it's Ricky Starks versus m JF. And it is winner
Speaker 1: take All. It is one match for the belt and
Speaker 1: the ring. Now listen, it ain't the end of the world.
Speaker 1: It's not that big a deal. Okay. I'm not sitting
Speaker 1: here going like you know, this place is nothing like that. Okay.
Speaker 1: But and the other thing is, you know, they had
Speaker 1: this plan that that was gonna be the match next week,
Speaker 1: and you know, when they had the graphic up and
Speaker 1: everything like that, I don't think anybody had any idea
Speaker 1: how big this promo segment was gonna be for Ricky
Speaker 1: Starks Man. When this was over, I thought, dude, listen, listen,
Speaker 1: you know they should have done They should have done
Speaker 1: exactly what they did. And ironsight and MGF punts his
Speaker 1: dude in the balls. He goes for whatever he's gonna do.
Speaker 1: Ricky starts, spears him out of his shoes. MJFF bails
Speaker 1: on the outside, and then Ricky grabs him Mike, and
Speaker 1: he goes, get me a referee down here right now.
Speaker 1: I want my match for the ring. And MGF gets
Speaker 1: in the ring and you do a quick whatever and
Speaker 1: the referee poked in the iro or whatever. He's not
Speaker 1: looking for a second and MJFF reaches into his trunks
Speaker 1: and he pulls out that ring and he puts he's
Speaker 1: gonna go to put the ring on the finger, and
Speaker 1: Ricky comme bam boots him. The ring goes flying like
Speaker 1: the Lord of the Rings. Ricky starts, scrabs the ring,
Speaker 1: puts it on his finger, Boom punches. M jeff knocks
Speaker 1: him out, covers him one, two three. The whole building
Speaker 1: collapses like that Arena Mexico show. Ricky starks wins the ring.
Speaker 1: The place goes nuts, and now he's pinned m JF.
Speaker 1: You know he can do it. MJF got foiled in
Speaker 1: his own game. Ricky has gotten the ring. Next week
Speaker 1: you do the championship match, and who cares? Ricky does
Speaker 1: a great you know they do next week? Is Ricky,
Speaker 1: you know whatever? Something that happens, Ricky does whatever. Actually
Speaker 1: had an idea, but forget it doesn't matter. MJFF beats him.
Speaker 1: Who gives who almost in a bad word. Ricky's gotta
Speaker 1: win over m JF. He's won the ring. It solves
Speaker 1: the problem. We've had a thousand times where the fans
Speaker 1: really want to get behind a guy you won't. Rugg
Speaker 1: gets yanked out from under him in one way or
Speaker 1: the other. Whatever, dude, Yeah, next week, next week, m
Speaker 1: Jeff doesn't have the ring anymore. But you know what,
Speaker 1: he's got regals nuts. He pulls out them nuts. Boom.
Speaker 1: Now he hits Ricky to get his revenge. Ricky kicks out,
Speaker 1: place goes crazy. Then you do whatever you're gonna do,
Speaker 1: and MGF gets him in the end or whatever. But man,
Speaker 1: you had the opportunity or you told us there would
Speaker 1: be two matches. You told us that Ricky was gonna
Speaker 1: get his match, and you told us that whoever won
Speaker 1: the Battle Royal was gonna get a shot of the ring.
Speaker 1: And in different matches, Ricky could have got his win
Speaker 1: leading into next week. Next week, you beat him. Who
Speaker 1: cares he has a great match. You already beat him. Jiff,
Speaker 1: he got something out of it. Ah, whatever, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be fine. It's gonna be fine. But man, I saw
Speaker 1: that reaction for for Ricky Starks and was like, dude,
Speaker 1: they want him, they want him, And the only thing
Speaker 1: I heard from people was you can't beat MJF right now?
Speaker 1: Why you guys have so little faith in MGF that
Speaker 1: he can't put over Ricky for the ring, getting knocked
Speaker 1: out with his own ring and then going on to
Speaker 1: beat Ricky next week in a championship match. Bro, if
Speaker 1: this guy is any good, which he is, he'll be
Speaker 1: fine putting a guy over for the ring and then
Speaker 1: winning the world title. Whatever. But I think they should
Speaker 1: have done that. And a w fans are used to
Speaker 1: short title reigns, so you do have the excuse there,
Speaker 1: because that's really the only excuse you have going against
Speaker 1: title Rady. He'll he'll retain the title. No, But I'm
Speaker 1: saying if people that want to belt up Ricky Starks
Speaker 1: and have him do the winner take All and he
Speaker 1: walks away with it, and it's just to me, that's
Speaker 1: too early. But this is a few that I've wanted.
Speaker 1: I hope it's a few that's going to continue to
Speaker 1: go and I would have booked it in the exact
Speaker 1: same way that you did, so you could continue to
Speaker 1: get mileage out of it and continue to build and build.
Speaker 1: I don't know what their grand plan is. Tony conn
Speaker 1: always talks about booking so much in advance, and you know,
Speaker 1: then having plans screwed up in this and that. But
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe that's why pencils come with the racers.
Speaker 1: And if he didn't have more of a plan for
Speaker 1: Key Starks, you better come up with one, because even
Speaker 1: if he loses here and you take him out of
Speaker 1: the mix with m JF, one thing that a W
Speaker 1: has done a horrible job with many people is following up.
Speaker 1: Ricky Starks can continue to be a Stark, can continue
Speaker 1: to be a threat, but he needs to have somebody
Speaker 1: to work with. He needs to have something going on
Speaker 1: that keeps him at the top of the game. Macking
Speaker 1: aman with more observer live, well, we might as well
Speaker 1: do the rest of the dynamite. So they had that
Speaker 1: opening segment was awesome. We talked about I don't have
Speaker 1: much more to add there. I do, actually, because one
Speaker 1: of the things that people always talked about when it
Speaker 1: comes to Ricky Starks is his size, and the man
Speaker 1: is lean, he's built narrow, okay, and that's how that goes.
Speaker 1: But did you notice standing next to m JF that
Speaker 1: he was just as tall, if not taller than m JF.
Speaker 1: He's a smaller guy. We're in an Arab smaller guys
Speaker 1: that should not be a notch against Ricky Starks with
Speaker 1: what that guy brings to the table. And once again,
Speaker 1: I just want to beat this home again to anybody
Speaker 1: from a W who may be listening to this. Some
Speaker 1: of your follow ups have sucked, and with Hangman Page,
Speaker 1: you're really lucky in some of the ways that you've
Speaker 1: booked him in that he is an original and there's
Speaker 1: almost nothing you can do for the most part, I think,
Speaker 1: for the most die hard a W fan, almost nothing
Speaker 1: you can never do to hurt Hangman Page. But you
Speaker 1: can hurt Ricky Starks. And he has not been bastardized
Speaker 1: in any way since he's been there. For the most part.
Speaker 1: You know, he got hurt. He had the good stuff
Speaker 1: with Does. There were things that he had going on
Speaker 1: with Cody. He had some good things, but he did
Speaker 1: get hurt. But he's been basically a clean character who
Speaker 1: is nice and fresh and the fans are begging for
Speaker 1: it right now. There is nobody to move numbers right
Speaker 1: now for a w There's nobody to move numbers in
Speaker 1: head all for wrestling right now with what it seems like.
Speaker 1: But they they need powerful segments every time out. They
Speaker 1: need as many big names as they can get. Danielson,
Speaker 1: m j F, Moxley, all on there all the time,
Speaker 1: intermixed with each other. And now you've got a guy
Speaker 1: in Ricky Starks who can do that. You can't not
Speaker 1: let that slide, You cannot let that fall away, and
Speaker 1: if you do, you know, there's really gonna have to
Speaker 1: be another again. It's just gonna be a a disaster.
Speaker 1: It's not a disaster, but it's really gonna be an
Speaker 1: embarrassment if you fumble the ball on a guy where
Speaker 1: every body right now is begging for a little bit
Speaker 1: of a run from him to do something. We had
Speaker 1: Samoa Joe beating Darby Allen, T and T title match.
Speaker 1: Samo Joe killed Darby Ellen, he killed him to death
Speaker 1: and then he submitted him and afterwards he was going
Speaker 1: to kill him even worse. And Wordlow came out to
Speaker 1: make and say, hey, listen, if you like violence. I
Speaker 1: swear to god, Darby would have been better off having
Speaker 1: an mm A fight with Samoa Joe than what he
Speaker 1: had in that match last night. I can't even tell
Speaker 1: you how many times this dude got slammed on the cement.
Speaker 1: You signed up for slap fight match for something easy
Speaker 1: to do into the cement. I can tell you that
Speaker 1: he's alive and apparently not seriously injured. But you know,
Speaker 1: but holy smokes, you could not take your eyes off
Speaker 1: the screen. You could not take it. This was as
Speaker 1: bullet proof of a first forty five minutes of a
Speaker 1: show for a company that has had a lot of
Speaker 1: issues and a lot of off the screen stuff that
Speaker 1: matters more than what takes place on it. They needed
Speaker 1: to come out scorching hot, and you could say the
Speaker 1: first forty five, if not the first hour and a
Speaker 1: half of that show was something else. We had the
Speaker 1: announcement that Orange Cassidy will be facing a wrestler of
Speaker 1: Kip Sabian's choice on Friday. No spoilers, Claudio Cassioli and
Speaker 1: Wheeler you ta beat Daniel Garcia and Jake Hager. When
Speaker 1: Claudio pinned Hagar instead of the match with Jericho on Saturday,
Speaker 1: and then we had a segment. I'm gonna talk about
Speaker 1: this segment after the break because I think I might
Speaker 1: need a little bit more time than is left in
Speaker 1: this segment. But long story short, it was the goodbye
Speaker 1: to William Regal here on this show could have left
Speaker 1: well enough alone. We had Jade Cardill, Layla Gray and
Speaker 1: Red Velvet beating Sky Blue, Medisine Rain and Kia Hogan,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it was all right, it was
Speaker 1: in the death spot. But the big question that I
Speaker 1: had coming out of this match was what in the
Speaker 1: world was the point of this match? Jade, Layla and
Speaker 1: Red Velvet beat Sky, Madison and Kira when Jade pinned Madison,
Speaker 1: So I don't know why Great Jade one again. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, her and Kia Hogan just had a big
Speaker 1: breakup and everything like that. And one of the problems
Speaker 1: with this promotion is that there are certain people that
Speaker 1: they do not want to beat under absolutely positively any circumstances.
Speaker 1: And in the case of Jade Cargill literally literally the
Speaker 1: storyline has been her reign is boring. So maybe since
Speaker 1: she just split up with Kira Hogan and since she's
Speaker 1: been having issues with Red Velvet and Layla Gray on TV.
Speaker 1: Maybe there could have been a three Stooges spot where
Speaker 1: Red Velvet does whatever, Jade's attracted and Kia Hogan pins
Speaker 1: Jade Cargill. Now you can do a Jade Cargil Kia
Speaker 1: Hogan Championship match, but instead in her first match in
Speaker 1: the ring with Jade since they broke up, Jay just
Speaker 1: got the win over Madison. I don't know what it does.
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever it still leaves Jaden Kira, I guess.
Speaker 1: But how long was that match? Would you say? Whatever
Speaker 1: it was, you could have cut it down to a
Speaker 1: tag match. You did exactly what Brian said, so you
Speaker 1: have Kira win and then filled the rest of that
Speaker 1: time sprinkled throughout the show with another Ricky Starks promo
Speaker 1: backstage saying what he's gonna do. Maybe later in the
Speaker 1: show have I don't know, Britt Baker or somebody else.
Speaker 1: You could have had her, and you could have had
Speaker 1: Hayman Page. I'm not saying big, massive interviews or anything
Speaker 1: like that, but to cut a promo or something like that,
Speaker 1: I think that would have been a lot better. U
Speaker 1: see your time, and then in a great main event,
Speaker 1: the acclaimed faced FTR, and it was weird because, you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about why was this match even on this
Speaker 1: show as opposed to win a pay per view since
Speaker 1: in theory, in theory, like if you're talking about the
Speaker 1: fake world of professional wrestling, in theory, this was the
Speaker 1: biggest tag team championship match on Earth. In you have
Speaker 1: a team that is a triple crown champion. They're they're
Speaker 1: the champions of Ring of Honor, they're the Champions of
Speaker 1: New Japan, they're the champions of Triple A. This was
Speaker 1: their chance to become a quadruple Crown champion by winning
Speaker 1: the a W tag team titles, and they barely made
Speaker 1: a big deal out of that, and then it was
Speaker 1: just literally they shot the angle on rampage and they
Speaker 1: did on this show. Now, with that said, this match
Speaker 1: was awesome and they got a lot of time. It
Speaker 1: started out good, then it became quite great, and then
Speaker 1: in the last few minutes it was pretty much awesome.
Speaker 1: And they did the flash pin where they did near fall,
Speaker 1: near fall, near fall, near fall, go for the Big
Speaker 1: rig Bones, broke up the count places going nuts, and
Speaker 1: finally Castor rolls through on a power bomb and he
Speaker 1: covers and pins cash Wheeler. They retain the titles clean
Speaker 1: in the middle of the ring and they do the
Speaker 1: stare down afterwards, Everyone's scissors. Great main event. You think
Speaker 1: the show's over, but no, the Ass Boys appear on
Speaker 1: the big screen. I mean, this is one of those
Speaker 1: where you know, sometimes I don't know why they do something,
Speaker 1: but they do it, and I'm it's just like whatever,
Speaker 1: this one, I don't know why they did it, but
Speaker 1: I don't care. This is gonna be a great match.
Speaker 1: The Ass Boys produce an envelope. They opened it up.
Speaker 1: The envelope is a message from the Briscos and they
Speaker 1: pull out to colors. So on the pay per view
Speaker 1: on the Ring of Honor pay per view on Saturday,
Speaker 1: it will be FTR versus the Briscos in a double
Speaker 1: dog color match for the Ring of Honor tag team
Speaker 1: titles and whatever youthing out they set it up, that
Speaker 1: match is gonna be awesome. It is going to be
Speaker 1: a blood bath, and this may be the beginning of
Speaker 1: paring down the number of titles that FTR has because
Speaker 1: they've beaten the Briscoes twice and maybe it's time for
Speaker 1: the Briscoes to get a win and given that there's
Speaker 1: going to be an announcement after the show about a
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor, I'm gonna say television. I mean, it
Speaker 1: may not be on actual television, maybe streaming. It might
Speaker 1: be on Our Club whatever, but there will be a
Speaker 1: way to watch weekly Ring of Honor television. I guess
Speaker 1: are gonna announce that after the show, And if it's
Speaker 1: not on a Warner Media station, then the Briscoes can
Speaker 1: be the tag team champions. So we'll see what happens
Speaker 1: on Saturday. But I'm excited for that match. It certainly
Speaker 1: sounds like that's what it's going to be as some
Speaker 1: sort of streaming service. And even if it's not a
Speaker 1: streaming service, you can still take the titles off of
Speaker 1: uh fd R if you want to, because you can
Speaker 1: make it a case where you're gonna have to pay
Speaker 1: to see the brisk Goes on pay per view. You're
Speaker 1: gonna actually have to go see them if R o
Speaker 1: H runs a show or if our if Tony lets
Speaker 1: them run in conjunction with somebody and the Briscoes show up.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe that's the direction that you have to
Speaker 1: go with it, but it is probably time to take
Speaker 1: the belts off of f TR. It's probably time for
Speaker 1: them to lose the CMLL titles, and they'll probably lose
Speaker 1: the im B g P titles coming up here in January.
Speaker 1: And then there's the question of what do you do
Speaker 1: with FDR, because I know if they start dropping belts,
Speaker 1: people are going to say, Okay, are they leaving in April?
Speaker 1: Is that when their contracts are up, and there's gonna
Speaker 1: be all that speculation we've already had Dex talk about. Man,
Speaker 1: maybe I'd like to go back on the indie scene
Speaker 1: and and see what's out there again. So it could
Speaker 1: either clear it for that, or it could clear it
Speaker 1: for what a lot of people have been looking for
Speaker 1: since day one, and that's FTR in the Young Bucks
Speaker 1: in a long feud or at least you know by
Speaker 1: a W and today's standards along feud that would lead
Speaker 1: to one of them were obviously them fighting over the
Speaker 1: tag team titles. So I know you wouldn't like spoilers,
Speaker 1: so I will not spoil obviously the result. And you
Speaker 1: know what, even if Fontleroy reather the match, you you know,
Speaker 1: you might speculate about the result, but there's a John
Speaker 1: Moxley to cash the match on rampage, and I heard
Speaker 1: from multiple folks that this match is awesome, like one
Speaker 1: of the best John Moxley matches all the year, and
Speaker 1: this dude's had a great year. And apparently this dude
Speaker 1: bled so much in this match that it took them
Speaker 1: ten minutes to clean the steel steps after the match.
Speaker 1: And some lady in the crowd screaming, I quote Jesus
Speaker 1: turn Mosley into wine. I guess Jesus was there watching
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Speaker 1: the segment that we didn't talk about, which I must so,
Speaker 1: the Blackpool Combat Club wins, and I I will pretend
Speaker 1: that I am talking to John Moxley right now to
Speaker 1: explain this to him because he had the same look
Speaker 1: on his face when this was over that I did,
Speaker 1: so I think I pieced this together. So the story
Speaker 1: is that after he turned on m JF, but before
Speaker 1: he was laid out by m JF, Regal went to
Speaker 1: Tony Shavanni and he said, I'm going to tell you
Speaker 1: why I did what I did, but I only want
Speaker 1: you to air this interview if something very bad happens
Speaker 1: to me. So of course, something very bad happened to him,
Speaker 1: which was ironic because I'll talk about it in a moment.
Speaker 1: But he was laid out, sent to the hospital. He's
Speaker 1: been in the hospital for a week. Ryan Danielson still
Speaker 1: there with him, according to a storyline, and so Tony
Speaker 1: Schavani said, well, I guess I gotta play the video now,
Speaker 1: and so he played the video, and long story short,
Speaker 1: William Regal said that the reason he turned on John
Speaker 1: Moxley and gave the title to m JF is that
Speaker 1: as champion, everybody will want to kill m JF, and
Speaker 1: thus this makes his life miserable, but that he is
Speaker 1: b c C for life Blackpool Combat Club and the
Speaker 1: reason that he did this to John Moxley was to
Speaker 1: pass on his final lesson and that is always watch
Speaker 1: your back you love something. Now. Of course, what was
Speaker 1: not mentioned is the reason that that m JF killed
Speaker 1: William Regal is because William Regal was not watching his back,
Speaker 1: but we won't bring that up. So anyway, they cut
Speaker 1: back and John Muxley has to look at his face
Speaker 1: like what and then he just moves on, We're done
Speaker 1: with this storyline and he just starts talking about something else.
Speaker 1: What in the world was this, Mike, You left one
Speaker 1: piece of it out, which was that Regal also did
Speaker 1: this when you ask, okay, well that that why would
Speaker 1: you do this William? And he says he did it
Speaker 1: because you see those other guys they don't need him.
Speaker 1: You know, you do might need him, but those other
Speaker 1: guys don't, and they're not just gonna let him walk away.
Speaker 1: You know. Obviously, Brian Danielson, you saw the reaction that
Speaker 1: he had. That's obviously going to build in more to
Speaker 1: whatever story that they're telling there with Moxley and he
Speaker 1: and m JF and all that. But long story short,
Speaker 1: it was completely unneeded. It was a piece of the
Speaker 1: puzzle that obviously, because Tony Khan mentioned that there was
Speaker 1: going to be something with Regal taking place on the
Speaker 1: show that you know we weren't quite over with this.
Speaker 1: But I can tell you what if there are any
Speaker 1: more videos Barium because it was unneeded. It was unnecessary,
Speaker 1: The goodbye was unneeded. It just uh, it's not like
Speaker 1: it kills the show and not like it does anything,
Speaker 1: because honestly, you know Moxley is going to move on
Speaker 1: and it looks like we may all move on from
Speaker 1: this if that's it. But if they did have any
Speaker 1: more plans for it, please kill it dead, because it was.
Speaker 1: It was just, frankly, an unneeded portion of the story
Speaker 1: that left everybody and not just Moxley, Claudio all and
Speaker 1: everybody watching for the most part with their jaws hanging open,
Speaker 1: like why do you mind if I fantasy book one
Speaker 1: more time? So, based on where they're going with everything,
Speaker 1: this would have all made so much more sense if
Speaker 1: Regal just had not turned hell right. So obviously what
Speaker 1: they wanted to do was MGF said I vow I
Speaker 1: will not use the ring, and then of course the
Speaker 1: swerve was well, he used William Regal's nuts, So why
Speaker 1: not when you're doing the Moxley MGF match of the
Speaker 1: pay per view why not do exactly what you did.
Speaker 1: The referee goes down, MGF puts theing on Regal, and
Speaker 1: ringside jumps up on the apron and he says, you absolutely,
Speaker 1: and he reaches the side and he puts the nuts
Speaker 1: on his hand, like, if you even think about it,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna knock you out with these nuts. So then
Speaker 1: m Jeff goes boom. He kills William Regal. He takes
Speaker 1: the nuts off Regal's hand. He knocks out Mocksley with
Speaker 1: the nuts, which you know continues his val that he
Speaker 1: wouldn't use the ring. He pins and he pins Moxley
Speaker 1: to win the title. Danielson flies down to the ring
Speaker 1: to take care of William Regal, and you end up
Speaker 1: exactly where we are now, and you don't have to
Speaker 1: have a time traveling storyline where Regal the final lesson
Speaker 1: was don't turn your back. And then I turned my
Speaker 1: back and got killed. And then you know, we had
Speaker 1: a turn which wasn't really a turn because I actually
Speaker 1: still like Moxley. You know, I turned on him for
Speaker 1: his own good or whatever the story is here that
Speaker 1: would have solved all the problems, all of them, or
Speaker 1: just I you know, I don't know still why the
Speaker 1: firm beat up MJF and the way that they did,
Speaker 1: you know, except for you wanted MGF to be an
Speaker 1: island amongst himselves. He was hated by all, including Stokely Hathaway.
Speaker 1: Because we haven't had a follow up to that either,
Speaker 1: but like you could have done a situation where they're
Speaker 1: the ones. M JF really is the devil. Oh, there
Speaker 1: goes Mike. The devil took him out. Get that picture
Speaker 1: from Mike, the frozen photo. Hopefully we can get him
Speaker 1: back somehow. What are they? What's the on Comcast? I
Speaker 1: forget what he's on, Spectrum something whatever he's on. It sucks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got disconnected bro audio, en video. Well, we'll see
Speaker 1: if we can get him back. I found out that
Speaker 1: MGM was responsible for that. I wouldn't be the least
Speaker 1: bit surprised. All right, Well, let's do some other news
Speaker 1: that we get him back. Give his his thoughts. Sasha Banks.
Speaker 1: Sasha Banks is reportedly going to be at Wrestle Kingdom
Speaker 1: seventeen on January four, three corny report from p w Insider.
Speaker 1: It is not clear if Banks will be wrestling or
Speaker 1: even appearing before the live crowd. On the show, but
Speaker 1: New Japan is bringing her to the event. Back in October,
Speaker 1: she teased the potential match with i w g P
Speaker 1: Women's champion Kyrie posted a match graphic to her Instagram story.
Speaker 1: The Kyrie later shared on Twitter. So, of course Kyrie
Speaker 1: is now the i w g P Women's Champion and
Speaker 1: uh and she'll be having match at the Tokyo Dome.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what's going on, but my guess
Speaker 1: is that Kyrie will win and then Socia will challenge
Speaker 1: her for a match. So and I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen or not, but makes sense to me.
Speaker 1: So trup Lache was asked about her status and said
Speaker 1: Timory said, time will tell. I think in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways, communication breakdowns are terrible. There was a communication
Speaker 1: breakdown there for whatever reason, started back up that communication.
Speaker 1: It's not a difficult process, but it can be a process.
Speaker 1: It's not a difficult process, but it can definitely be
Speaker 1: a process. It is a simple, complicated, yet not difficult process.
Speaker 1: He says, you have to go through the process. She's
Speaker 1: an unbelievably talented woman who can do just about anything
Speaker 1: she wants. Just comes down to what she wants to
Speaker 1: do now, So we'll see what she wants to do now.
Speaker 1: But I would not be surprised if it was coming
Speaker 1: in for a one off with Kyrie. And whether she
Speaker 1: goes back to w w WE afterwards, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I do not know, but we shall see. I hope
Speaker 1: she enjoys the show. It's a Tokyo Dome n XT
Speaker 1: on Tuesday five and thirty four thousand viewers, which was
Speaker 1: down seventeen point one percent from last week. It is
Speaker 1: the second lowest audience n x T has ever done
Speaker 1: on the USA network in eighteen forty nine two point
Speaker 1: one three. So actually the demo was not too bad,
Speaker 1: but viewership was way way down and they did do
Speaker 1: strongly an every time they do these demos. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I don't buy the demos or anything
Speaker 1: like that, because but it's just every week it's something
Speaker 1: random and there's never any rhyme or reason to it
Speaker 1: that you can you can actually flesh out. But like,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, young females this week really decided that
Speaker 1: they wanted to watch n x T. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: but that's what the chart said. But anyway, it's as
Speaker 1: I know the beginning of the show, Rampage did a
Speaker 1: terrible number. SmackDown, which is on NFS one, did a
Speaker 1: terrible number, Raw did a terrible number. By the way,
Speaker 1: Rampage and Raw all time record lows, and then n
Speaker 1: x T here did a bad number. So you know,
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised in the slightest if Dynamite
Speaker 1: does not do a great number here tonight, and I
Speaker 1: will be stepping away because I don't want to hear
Speaker 1: all the nuttiness about it. Shawn Michaels did a a
Speaker 1: media day to talk about a number of things leading
Speaker 1: leading into deadline on Saturday. He was talking about he
Speaker 1: asked about Regal, He said, nothing official to announce. Everyone
Speaker 1: quote loves Steve and he has nothing but respect for him.
Speaker 1: Like everyone, he says, I have been reading about everything
Speaker 1: in the media. He answered a question about XPOC whether
Speaker 1: you would wrestle in n x T, He said, if
Speaker 1: that was an option they were allowed to explore, he
Speaker 1: would love it. Regarding the New Day, he indicated it
Speaker 1: might be more than a one off appearance, and Xavier
Speaker 1: and Kofi are open to these conversations. Well, you know
Speaker 1: whether it is or not. You have to say that
Speaker 1: you can't stay. They're here for a one time thing.
Speaker 1: As a challenge for the tag titles on Saturday, you
Speaker 1: have to indicate that you know they're open to being back. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: of course they're not gonna win. And he said the
Speaker 1: dialogue for main roster talent to work in n x
Speaker 1: T has happened in a variety of ways and that
Speaker 1: they have done all of them. So we have the
Speaker 1: audio for all of this upon the front page Wrestling
Speaker 1: Observer dot com, so you can head up there and
Speaker 1: check that out. And finally, news notes, Becky Lynch still
Speaker 1: not feeling after suffering a separated shoulder at Summer Slept, So, man,
Speaker 1: I hope that heals up because that can be a
Speaker 1: long term sucky injury. Back in a moment of zer
Speaker 1: life back here on the show, Bright Nowver is here
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer Live. So uh, as they talked about a
Speaker 1: couple of days ago here on the show, Mike's having
Speaker 1: some work done in the basement and I'm not sure
Speaker 1: that this is what happened, but as possible, they just
Speaker 1: chopped his internet cable and a half. So classic anyway, tonight,
Speaker 1: the Brian and Vinnie, Yeah, they cut the cord, so
Speaker 1: I add them to the list. The Brian and Vinnie
Speaker 1: Show tonight a W and n x T full reviews
Speaker 1: of Dynamite and n x T n x T of
Speaker 1: course leading into Deadline on Saturday. And uh we got
Speaker 1: hour and a half to talk both these shows. We
Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about here tonight, So check
Speaker 1: it out Wrestling Observer dot com for the audio, the podcast,
Speaker 1: or video dot f W online dot com. If you
Speaker 1: want to watch the video show live or the archives
Speaker 1: video dot FW online dot com. We always run live
Speaker 1: at midnight Pacific, not nine Pacific midnight Eastern, midnight Eastern.
Speaker 1: That's Thursday nights, so you can watch it live on
Speaker 1: video nine Pacific midnight Eastern video dot for w online
Speaker 1: dot com, or listen to the archives whenever you want
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer dot com. So I will not be here tomorrow,
Speaker 1: and uh we'll see if Mike will be here tomorrow
Speaker 1: after what just occurred. But we're gonna do our best here,
Speaker 1: so uh in the meantime, lots of stuff. The the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame issue of the Observer, No, the awards
Speaker 1: issue is that right Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: issue comes out tomorrow. Awards issue comes out next month.
Speaker 1: The Hall of Fame issue is gonna be coming out
Speaker 1: to Marrows if you want to read that. That's also
Speaker 1: available Wrestling Observer dot com. So all sorts of stuff
Speaker 1: to tide you over. And that's it. One of thing
Speaker 1: Mike has always callers and listeners over to the studio.
Speaker 1: That's right, we'll talk to you next time. Can I
Speaker 1: do that to him? Him? Trusting Observer Live. You have
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