1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios Podcasts, Radio News, The. 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 2: Stock Movers podcast, your roundup of companies making moves in 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: the stock market, harnessing the power of Bloomberg Data. 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 3: I'm Carol Messer along with him Stanvik. 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: Let's get to some of the stacks on the. 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 3: Move on this Monday. Bloomberg News Earnings reporter Red Brown 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: in the house. Cruise Lines Norwegian, what's up with that? 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, Cruise Lines of Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings was one 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 4: of those. 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 5: Stocks that really reacted quite sharply too a lot of 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 5: the news over the last forty eight hours. That ticker 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 5: is ncl H. They were down as much as seven 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 5: point six percent today before recovering like much of the market. 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 5: That king swing, right, It was, yeah, from quite quite 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 5: a big swing, and these stocks have been moving around 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 5: as you know, news filters in through them from the 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 5: Middle East. Most of much of this is kind of 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 5: coming down to just a negative feeling towards where oil 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 5: prices are going to be. Norwegian does hedge some of 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 5: those prices. Other cruise lines to as well. But we'll see, 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 5: actually we'll get a good reading on kind of what 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 5: the demand impact of this whole situation will be tomorrow 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 5: when Carnival reports in the morning, and that will give 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 5: us a really nice read through into Norwegian and what 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 5: their customers are feeling, what they're hearing from some of 26 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 5: their partners, things like that there is a feeling that 27 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 5: Norwegian might be the most exposed to any kind of 28 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 5: downturn within demand, just their most premium within the three 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 5: big names in ocean cruising. So yeah, we'll get a 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 5: lot more information tomorrow hopefully. 31 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: Was there an actual downgrade this morning? 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 5: There was also an analyst downgrade as well, which I 33 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 5: think is also not helping Norwegian. I think it was 34 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 5: a downgrade from buy to hold, just kind of feeling like, 35 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 5: you know, best price, but the company is down I 36 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 5: think around twenty nine percent this year, so not having 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 5: the best year in general, but that's after triple digit 38 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 5: gains over the last two or three. 39 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 4: So reveal is a Constellation. 40 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: Energy or about Norwegian? 41 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 4: Oh sorry, there's a preemptive barrel. Was part of this? 42 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: Did part of today's actively have to do with concern 43 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: about just people traveling? Because we did see airlines stocks 44 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: move lower and then they moved higher later when oil 45 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: prices went down, and also when it seemed like that 46 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: was an isolated incident on that American base and cutter. 47 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think I think that's fair. 48 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 5: I mean it's I think we always see this move 49 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 5: whenever there is a little bit of geopolitical risk in general. 50 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 5: You know, these companies are out all out of that region. 51 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 5: You know, they moved out after twenty twenty three October seventh. 52 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 5: But I think still, you know, if you're a consumer 53 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 5: and you're thinking about your discretionary budget, if there's a 54 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 5: potential for a wider conflict, I think that does raise 55 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 5: a lot of questions. One thing the cruises do have 56 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 5: to their benefit that the airlines might not have. There 57 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 5: is people book really far in advance. But again, you know, 58 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 5: if you're surely uncertain and unsafe about traveling, maybe you 59 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 5: second guess whether or not you actually go through with 60 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 5: that tripman, you spend less, a little less on board 61 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 5: things like that. 62 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, we have had the US, I think in 63 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: other countries also, but the is urging travelers to be careful, 64 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: like when overseas. So we have seen some caution questionary 65 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 3: words from the US. All right, can I do the 66 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 3: drum roll please please? Okay, it's a Constellation Energy or 67 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: Consolation brands. 68 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 5: Ticker please it is CEG Constellation Energy. So I think 69 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 5: someone knows somebody five dollars but. 70 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 4: Shata no you pay to me, I no idea? All right, 71 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 4: go ahead, right sorry. 72 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 5: Shares are up around we're we're up around three point 73 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 5: four percent today. And you know, this is a utility company. 74 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 5: They have three nuclear energy plants in New York State, 75 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 5: so shares are moving off of news that the governor here, 76 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 5: Kathy Hochel, is exploring another plant within the state. 77 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 4: You know, it's it's it's pretty interesting to me. 78 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 5: You know, this is a utility company and kind of 79 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 5: synonymous with boring, you know, just regular paying dividends. But 80 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 5: this stocks up forty percent this year off of a 81 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 5: lot of good news around nuclear power kind of at 82 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 5: the center of this like refurbished image that that nuclear 83 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 5: is getting following Meta also announcing that they'll be doing 84 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 5: a big deal with Constellation. 85 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're all like. 86 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: All the big hyperscalers, you're lining up with these utilities. 87 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: That stock almost doubled last year, was that like ninety 88 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: one percent? I mean it has just been on a 89 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: tear and it really is that AI play right in 90 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: the power demands. 91 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, some extent. 92 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I mean tech and now politicians all kind 93 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 5: of getting behind nuclear power after years of not. 94 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we had Indian Point here just outside of 95 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: New York City, go up the Hudson for years that 96 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: was an operating nuclear power plant. No longer. There was 97 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: a lot of pushback yep in the two thousands, in 98 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: the nineties to nuclear power, and I think a lot 99 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: of people would say it was not I don't want 100 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: to say unwarranted, but I want to say maybe it 101 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: was pre Maybe they're those now who say those should 102 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: have been kept open. 103 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: Wasn't it the Indian power plantment? Husband and I were 104 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: talking about this weekend. Wasn't it used to like water 105 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: would come down to like power like hydro, and then 106 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 3: it was used to kind of push the water back up. 107 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 4: I got to check. 108 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: I got a Google, So don't quote me on that. 109 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: Don't get me in trouble. Okay, where do you want 110 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: to go? 111 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 4: And your husband? A very intellectual conversations really show you cut? 112 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 4: Are you can say so yourself? Sorry? Go ahead, right brow? Yeah, 113 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: something that maybe a little less intellectual, be cosmetics, makeup? 114 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: All right? 115 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 3: What do you got? 116 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: We have estay laud that ticker is just e L. 117 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 5: Shares finished up around five percent today and that was 118 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 5: off of the Deutsche Bank analysts upgrading their rating for 119 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 5: the stock, and that's actually maybe a little bit counterintuitive. 120 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 5: The reasoning behind the upgrade was because of the company's 121 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 5: efforts to diversify away from China, which for so long 122 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 5: has been so important for these discretionary companies. As you know, 123 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 5: the middle class in China has grown, discretionary budgets have 124 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 5: grown alongside that. 125 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 4: But now just kind of I think the overexposure within that. 126 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 5: They may have the pendulum maybe a song too far, 127 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 5: so Estate latter is really making an effort to kind of, 128 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 5: you know, make sure they're well well. 129 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 4: Exposed to all of Asia, well exposed to Europe. 130 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 5: Still things like that, and yeah, all systems go, I 131 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 5: guess for it's. 132 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 4: A big moves today. 133 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: The Stockmovers podcast from Bloomberg Radio. 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