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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam. This is a John your og

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Speaker 2: My mother in law keeps overstepping my parenting. I finally

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Speaker 2: stood my ground.

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Speaker 3: Girl.

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Speaker 4: Why don't you take three steps back real quick?

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Speaker 5: Three SATs back and then what that's it?

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Speaker 4: Just through suspect overstepping.

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Speaker 2: This weekend, we the husband, daughter four years old, and

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Speaker 2: son eleven months are going camping. Yay. We're meaning mother

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Speaker 2: in law and father in law out there, followed by

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Speaker 2: sister in law and her fiance. Possibly some friends as well,

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Speaker 2: but probably not overnight, so mainly I'll be stuck with

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Speaker 2: the in laws all weekend. Yay. By the way, this

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Speaker 2: So the camping spot is literally in the middle of nowhere.

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Speaker 2: You drive through a very tiny, thin path that fits

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Speaker 2: one vehicle at a time, very slowly, for about an

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Speaker 2: hour and a half to two hours. Then you suddenly

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Speaker 2: come to a huge opening with a gorgeous beach and

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Speaker 2: a lake It's our favorite spot and we go every

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Speaker 2: year except last year because I was super pregnant with

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Speaker 2: our second baby, which is part of my issue.

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Speaker 4: What you keep getting pregnant.

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Speaker 2: I consider myself to have a fairly shiny spine, now

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Speaker 2: getting shinier with every interaction with mother in law. However,

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Speaker 2: I never used to have one. In fact, for the

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Speaker 2: entire time my daughter has been growing up until this year,

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Speaker 2: I add what I referred to as a limp noodle

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Speaker 2: spine when it came to mother in law. She has

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Speaker 2: an obnoxiously ginormous and loud presence slash personality, and is

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Speaker 2: the main character in every room she steps in. Because

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Speaker 2: of this, when my daughter was growing up, my mother

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Speaker 2: in law boundaries, stomped constantly and basically took over as

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Speaker 2: if she were the mom. I honestly feel like she

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Speaker 2: likes to play mommy with my kids. It's gross and weird.

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Speaker 2: She's always posing with them for photos as if she's

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Speaker 2: the mom, saying things like, oh, don't worry, Grammy just

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Speaker 2: has to walk away for a second, but I'll be back.

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Speaker 2: Don't be sad. Meanwhile, they don't even care or no

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Speaker 2: she's walking away. She just acts like she's number one

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Speaker 2: in their life. Or tell grammy, Grammy, we'll help you

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Speaker 2: what you need, Grammy, we'll get it for you, which

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Speaker 2: sounds nice and innocent enough, but I swear she does

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Speaker 2: it in a way that pushes me aside and makes

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Speaker 2: it seem like she's drilling into my kid's head to

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Speaker 2: go to Grammy and not mom for things. If that

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Speaker 2: makes sense, If we.

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Speaker 4: Get like a big jump in time, yeah, this might

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Speaker 4: be a problem because imagine if the kids do go

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Speaker 4: to Grammy, Grammy, I need to get out of jail.

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Speaker 2: Grammy, Well that's actually, you know, kind of sucks for Grammy.

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Speaker 2: Just always deal with them.

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Speaker 4: Well, they always go to Grammy, and then you don't

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Speaker 4: know that your child.

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Speaker 2: Is in jail.

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Speaker 4: Is in jail.

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Speaker 2: So when we used to go camping with my firstborn,

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Speaker 2: she ruined so many experiences by just being herself, being

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Speaker 2: her usual overtaking and shout about me self. For example,

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Speaker 2: my daughter has never been cuddly or affectionate, and when

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Speaker 2: she is, it's a rare and cherished moment for me.

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Speaker 2: She would be snuggling me around the campfire before bedtime,

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Speaker 2: and mother in law would come marching across the circle

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Speaker 2: to us literally saying something like oh, she cuddly, I

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Speaker 2: and walk back to her seat, which left me so shocked.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't even move or speak because doubles, WTF.

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Speaker 4: It's just the weekend. It's just the weekend. It's just

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Speaker 2: She's constantly going on about how she's the best swimmer ever,

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Speaker 2: and I was trying to show my todler some I

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Speaker 2: was trying to show my toddler some tips like punting

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Speaker 2: your feet and floating, super basic stuff, and she kept

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Speaker 2: trying to take over, making it seem like I know

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Speaker 2: nothing in comparison to her. Dude, dude, I would not

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Also, like, get your own kids, get your own kids.

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Speaker 4: You got to be your grandma. You know what grandma's

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Speaker 4: You already had your kids. What her grandma's do, Sofia, they'd.

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Speaker 2: Like give money or something, yeah, candy, Yeah, and they

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't. Mother.

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Speaker 5: They pinch your cheeks.

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Speaker 2: And then you watch TV.

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Speaker 5: No, they it's like soap operas like.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the Young and Russells and dude, I stayed

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Speaker 5: With all of the young wrests and the price is right.

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Speaker 6: Bro.

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Speaker 2: I always watch Deal or No Deal Master Chef and

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Speaker 2: like I dream of Jeanie. Wow, those were the those

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Speaker 2: were the essentials.

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Speaker 5: Sounds like Rally and I had the same grandma.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that sounds really somehow. Sometimes get to watch like

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Speaker 4: really old seventies.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yep, even like really old, like like I love

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Speaker 5: Lucy Good. Yeah, Genie is a really old one one,

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Speaker 5: but like yours is a specific young and the restless

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Speaker 5: got me invested as an eight year old.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how to explain it, but she makes

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Speaker 2: She will follow my kids around and hover over them

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Speaker 2: it's me with the kids. Look at me building sand

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Speaker 2: castles or blowing bubbles or swimming or whatever I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: No matter what I do, she inserts herself. Even when

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Speaker 2: I try saying something to my kids, she's right there

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Speaker 2: beside me, repeating it but changing it to say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: yelling makes Grammy sad. If I just told them when

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Speaker 2: you yell, it makes people feel sad. It's like she's

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Speaker 2: grooming Slash manipulating them to revolve around her, like I

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Speaker 2: feel like she did Slash does to my husband. I

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Speaker 2: hope that makes sense. She's always lunging at me and

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Speaker 2: others like a maniac. For my second baby, constantly leaping

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Speaker 2: at whoever has him with her arms out frantically saying

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Speaker 2: I take him, which sounds fine, but I also literally

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Speaker 2: will be standing beside her, and she deliberately keeps walking

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Speaker 2: if she needs to give him to someone else for

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Speaker 2: give him to his mom, or if I grab him

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Speaker 2: she acts so friggin weird. At least I think that's

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Speaker 2: weird behavior. So anyway, I know, dang well, she's going

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Speaker 2: to do this again with my son, and it's his

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Speaker 2: first time camping, and he's my last baby. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: I have more of a spine now, so I'm looking

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Speaker 2: forward to going and getting a redemption first, I guess.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like a new mom now that I'm

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Speaker 2: able to speak up and not feel uncomfortable for saying no.

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Speaker 2: But I'm still worried about her behavior because she is

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Speaker 4: Have you ever been a part of a family where

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Speaker 4: a certain family member will care about a child whenever

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Speaker 4: they're young, like a baby, up until they're about four,

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Speaker 4: and then they don't really care about them and they're

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Speaker 4: very protective of them at that age.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they just got like baby fever, but then they're like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is like a this is like a child.

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Speaker 5: Allow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I would like to know how mother in law

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Speaker 4: kind of patterns we got going here, because you can

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Speaker 4: kind of tell what this mother in law's going to

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Speaker 4: do with your kids. Be like, do I want that

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Speaker 4: those effects that my husband went through to my for

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean it's just like I think, if she can't,

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Speaker 2: if she can't listen to the boundaries that you guys

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Speaker 4: Yikes.

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Speaker 2: Since we are in the middle of nowhere, stuck together,

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Speaker 2: we're not camping in the same thing. We have a

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Speaker 2: still camping very close beside each other. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to ruffle too many feathers, so I'm looking for things

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Speaker 2: to do slash say to make her back off when

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Speaker 2: she starts interfering with me making memories with my kids

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Speaker 2: and undermining my parenting. I don't want it to cause

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Speaker 4: Do we let our chronic pepee overtake us and we

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Speaker 4: say and we beat around the bush saying it? Or

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Speaker 5: Can you just under it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? How would you say it?

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Speaker 2: I think you said you go up to La La

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Speaker 2: and you say, hey, it seems like you know I've

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Speaker 2: repeatedly talked to you about how you've been pushing me,

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Speaker 2: sidelining me while I'm trying to parent, and if you

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Speaker 2: continue to do this, I'm not gonna allow you to

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Speaker 2: be around my kids, and you make sure that your

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Speaker 4: Also, is this we're just on this trip for a

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Speaker 4: weekend though, right? Yeah? I think we can do it.

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Speaker 4: I think we can do it.

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Speaker 2: Can we do it? Can we do it?

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Speaker 6: Is this?

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Speaker 4: Am I am? I kind of being crazy? Can we

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Speaker 2: Some people? I feel like we could get through a weekend?

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Speaker 2: But how many weekends do you have to get through?

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Speaker 2: You know, like there's always going to be another mountain,

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Speaker 2: You're always gonna want to make a move.

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Speaker 4: Dang.

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Speaker 2: Also, for the record, a husband is on my side.

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Speaker 2: It took a long time, but he has my back now.

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Speaker 2: But also note that because of this, she has been

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Speaker 2: relentlessly pushing back at both of us ten times harder

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Speaker 2: because she knows we are more solid and when we

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Speaker 2: aren't taking crap, and we aren't taking crap anymore, and

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Speaker 2: she hates it. So now we have to deal with

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Speaker 2: her being extra wild with kid number two. I can't

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Speaker 2: just leave and go home on a whim. Once we

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Speaker 2: go out, we are out there for the weekend and

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Speaker 2: also for the poor, for the poor mother in law

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Speaker 2: people out there. She does get her grandma time and

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Speaker 2: will get plenty of moments with my kids over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: She also lives ten minutes away and sees them in

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Speaker 2: overwhelming them out every week. I just feel like she

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Speaker 2: doesn't also need to interfere with my time as their

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Speaker 2: mom or take over the whole weekend. And lastly, father

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Speaker 2: he's an enabler to mother in law. And sister in

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Speaker 2: law and fiance are also great. It's literally just mother

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Speaker 2: in law who's horrible. And there is an update, But

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Speaker 4: What do you think you on?

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Speaker 5: Just push her?

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Speaker 2: I mean like.

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Speaker 5: Get her away, get her away because you don't want

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Speaker 5: it's like no, like you, you had your shot, you

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Speaker 6: Like.

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Speaker 5: I don't get me wrong, I love the help that

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Speaker 5: I think I think that's great because moms are of help.

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Speaker 5: that's what that's what the grandparents are there for. But

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Speaker 4: Yeah. No, the me growing up, see my grandma take

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Speaker 4: She just I don't know, just be Grandma'll.

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Speaker 5: Like make you something like food, some.

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Speaker 2: Toast, I don't know, Yeah, knit me a sweater.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, those are a classic grandma things.

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Speaker 2: It's a grandma thing. Why are you trying to overstep

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Speaker 4: I wonder if the new modern grandma things whenever we're

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Speaker 5: I hope not, or like if I'm a grand.

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Speaker 4: I mean, are you gonna be crocheting your kids something I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know how to? I mean I actually technically have.

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Speaker 2: I did know at one point how to crochet and knit.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make my mom do it all.

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Speaker 4: I probably will little stick for kid at.

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Speaker 5: Nah.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna like play dolls or something with my kids,

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Speaker 5: I'll build I'll build a Lego set with my my grandad.

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Speaker 4: To make a movie production with my kids.

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Speaker 2: My grandma can make a TikTok with grandma. Yep, yep,

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Speaker 2: they're like, oh this old thing called TikTok because probably.

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Speaker 4: Heard of one.

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Speaker 5: We're like back in my day. We only had six seconds.

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Speaker 4: That's all I needed. We needed to make you guys

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Speaker 4: joking Joe, were you.

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Speaker 2: As just like gone? Man, just like update.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna get her back. Okay, my my mission this story.

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Speaker 4: She's gonna laugh, she's gonna she's gonna come back to life.

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Speaker 4: I gotta guys, update for a summary.

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Speaker 2: My mother in law needs to be the center of

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Speaker 2: including pretending she's so embarrassing or is that hurt her

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Speaker 2: bad and give in to her. She also plays mommy

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Speaker 2: her quickly. What is this woman playing freaking squid games?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Go on, you know when they make a barricade at

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Speaker 2: night so that you can't get attacked by the other players.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're playing for Fortnite.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah? Is this woman in the French Revolution?

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Speaker 4: Capture the flag? Capture the baby?

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Speaker 2: Oh I want to fight capture the flag. She makes

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Speaker 2: my life miserable and she is exhausting to even think about. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: here is how my weekend went. Since so many people

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Speaker 2: ask for an update. Oh boy, I'm extremely irritated and exhausted,

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Speaker 2: which from my original post I already said I knew

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Speaker 2: I would be, so I don't need any I told

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Speaker 2: you so, people, loll. I mainly went for my kids,

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Speaker 2: and I did have a good time with them and

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Speaker 2: also honestly with everyone else except mother in law, so

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Speaker 2: other than her, I guess it was a decent weekend.

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Speaker 2: But here are some highlights. I guess so bullet points.

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Speaker 2: Got to the campsite where mother in law and father

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Speaker 2: of course mother in law charged me and the kids

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Speaker 2: or female in eleven months, immediately buzzing in their ears

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Speaker 2: law was right there, repeating what I said and adding

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Speaker 4: What planet is this woman on?

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Speaker 2: Uh? The crazy person planet. My daughter took sister in

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: Then I told my daughter in front of mother in

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Speaker 2: Mother in law again acted like I was just a

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Speaker 2: She was fine. This is another event that happened. She

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Speaker 2: her from very from some steps away, daughter, are you

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Speaker 2: all right, to which mother in law answered for yeah,

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Speaker 2: Daughter?

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Speaker 4: Wow? I didn't know you could understand my daughter's emotions.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I didn't know you were a mind reader,

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Speaker 2: so I shouted back, well, I want to hear my

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Speaker 2: Not a peep from mother in law. By the way,

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Speaker 2: if it isn't obvious by now, mother in law loves

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Speaker 2: to intimidate people and force them to do what she wants,

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Speaker 2: But as soon as you call her out or fight back,

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Speaker 2: she starts stumbling over her words, grasping at straws, trying

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Speaker 2: kept buzzing around my daughter saying, come swim with Nana,

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Speaker 2: She's like, look how far out I swam?

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Speaker 4: I was about to say that word.

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Speaker 2: Look, I could do a handstand.

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Speaker 4: If I was this person's partner, I would get the

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Speaker 2: Come on?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 4: How can you be with someone like this? What? How

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Speaker 2: I have no idea.

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Speaker 4: I'm so confused right now. What in her mind from

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Speaker 4: I want to know. I'm want to dive deep into her.

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Speaker 2: She's a very jealous person who needs attention on her

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Speaker 4: I want to dive deep into her brain cells and

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Speaker 4: understand the mapping of her behavior. Yeah, Like, how does

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Speaker 2: I tried talking to and asking questions mother in law,

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Speaker 2: so used to it, it's ridiculous. I wasn't having any

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Speaker 2: every time she did it, I either repeated my question

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Speaker 2: said something in a lighthearted way like oh, I didn't

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Speaker 2: question after question. A husband was telling a story from

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Speaker 2: She tells everyone's stories as if it's her own, as

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Speaker 2: I brought two books to the campfire, one for me,

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Speaker 2: read a story, and mother in law kept holding her

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Speaker 2: her out and said, well, you don't have to hold

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Speaker 2: and mother in law acted all sheepish and said, still

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Speaker 4: Like, please, she's holding me hot, I can't help anywhere.

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Speaker 4: Oh dude, can we do anything here?

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Speaker 2: Well, it seems like your husband needs to do more,

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00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,880
Speaker 2: because he said he's on your side.

442
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,479
Speaker 4: Like yeah, father in along. Definitely, I would haven't been

443
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 4: ze functions.

444
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 5: I would have the conversation with the father in law like, yeah,

445
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 5: could you tell her to stop? And you know, like

446
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 5: you see what she's doing.

447
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's up. Man.

448
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 4: I have seen family members where their wife just acts

449
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 4: super crazy and the husband gives up. He's like, yeah,

450
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 4: I can't he's so crazy.

451
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 5: Usually the husband does not want to deal with it

452
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 5: because they're like, oh, I'm gonna get the now it's

453
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 5: gonna be the focus is gonna be towards me, like

454
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 5: the angers just straight towards me, and you like, I'd

455
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 5: rather not.

456
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

457
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so sad to watch.

458
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 2: Uh, Miss jay Bird says op He does need to

459
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,160
Speaker 2: relax a bit too use her so you can get

460
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 2: a break. Yeah, I mean it seems like it seems

461
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 2: like this is just constant though, Like even when Opie

462
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 2: wants to hang out with.

463
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,479
Speaker 4: Her kids whenever the reading the story thing, maybe let

464
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 4: the mother in law do it.

465
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that would be a moment where

466
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 2: that would be fined.

467
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 5: If it was like, you know, once every you know,

468
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 5: in a blue moon, or like a couple times a month,

469
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 5: that's fine, But it's like it's literally every time you

470
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 5: see the baby, it's like that's that.

471
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like in normal circumstances. If there were

472
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 2: like a normal mother in law, you'd be like, okay,

473
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 2: well you could let her read the stories. That's you know,

474
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 2: let her be ave a little bit. But because it's

475
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 2: so you know, so constant, I got up when I

476
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 2: noticed that and just picked her up and took her

477
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 2: over to me and continued our bedtime routine, ignoring mother

478
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 2: in law the entire time. After that, which she hated,

479
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 2: sister in law was saying how husband and I make

480
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 2: such cute babies, and then teasing her brother saying which,

481
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 2: obviously they got all of that from ope, not you,

482
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 2: to which mother in law hyped up and said thanks

483
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 2: a lot, and we all looked at her confused, which

484
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 2: then she went on and on about how my kids

485
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 2: some outcome from all of her personal genes, and I

486
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 2: was saying, they don't get their cuteness from husband. Her

487
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 2: son was a personal attack just to her, So I

488
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 2: at first said, uh, no, they get all their genes

489
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 2: for me, because you know I'm the mother, and husband

490
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: too threw them in his kit. Wait what, No, they

491
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 2: get all their genes from me because you know I'm

492
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: in the mother, and husband too threw them in in

493
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: case she took the angle. It's not just me lol.

494
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: She kept going on though, so finally I said, louder

495
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 2: than before, mother in law, you can take credit for

496
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,479
Speaker 2: your own kids, which are right there. I pointed to

497
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 2: sister in law husband, they are your kids, these are mine,

498
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: and I just simply walked away. Sister in law thought

499
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: I was very amusing and backed me up, saying, yeah, Mom,

500
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 2: were your kids not Obie's kids, and you're a silly

501
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 2: goose type of tone. Basically, a bunch of little things happened,

502
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 2: but my relationship with my mother in law is a

503
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: very much passing away by a thousand paper cuts. These

504
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 2: little things may sound silly, but all together they're so

505
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 2: freaking irritating.

506
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 4: Yeah I can I could see that.

507
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, she just keeps doing it. Everything is

508
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 2: a battle with this woman.

509
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 4: I can only imagine and how irritated Sophia is with

510
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 4: me day to day because I know I work with her,

511
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 4: and I'm also not the best roommate ever. No, you

512
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 4: are okay, good, So like I'm not at death by

513
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 4: a thousand cuts. I think I am okay, Hey, met

514
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 4: I am, But if it wasn't from my awesome personality,

515
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 4: you'd probably be like he's dead to me.

516
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean if you sucked as a person.

517
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, basically what I'm saying. I can understand

518
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 4: how all these little things snacking up upon another.

519
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 2: It's frustrating. Katie Politan says. More people need to start

520
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 2: calling mother out mother in law out on this behavior,

521
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: and not just opee, I.

522
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 4: Know, reverse psychology or no, okay, take it back. We

523
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 4: need to do is when of her mother in law

524
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 4: does something you like, oh my gosh, thank you, I

525
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 4: love that.

526
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 2: That is so kind, positive reinforcement, anything else, yeah, nothing,

527
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 2: You ignore her these I just find her entire existence unnecessary.

528
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 2: She truly is unbearable. My kids love her, especially my daughter,

529
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 2: so I endure her presence for their sake. But I've

530
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: set ground rules, like my husband asked to be there

531
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: at all times because I refuse to be alone with her.

532
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 2: That's when she's at her most fu when she knows

533
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 2: husband isn't around to witness it or tell her to

534
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: knock it off. For those who didn't see my previous post,

535
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 2: I said a husband had recently gone up to her home,

536
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 2: which is fifteen minutes away, and told her that he

537
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: had been a crappy husband and father due to always

538
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 2: putting her and her want slash feelings above everyone else's

539
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: and that stops now finally, so far things have been

540
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 2: better this weekend. He didn't really notice much. In his defense,

541
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: he was cooking food and taking care of the fire. Well,

542
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: I basically just got to hang out with the kids

543
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: or go off and take some quiet me time. When

544
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 2: I got overwhelmed by mother in law, he immediately stepped

545
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 2: in and took the kids so I could do that.

546
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: It was great. He didn't do much, but when he

547
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 2: did hear me telling mother in law to back down,

548
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: he did tell her to be quiet and back off too.

549
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 2: He'd say little comments like, oh, he is their mom.

550
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 2: She's got this handled and got his mom to go

551
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 2: back off. He doesn't know about all the tiny things

552
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: she did that annoyed me that I've listed, and I'm

553
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: not sure if I'll tell him it's if it's even

554
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: worth it or not. But anyway, that was my weekend.

555
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 2: Oh and as an added bonus, are used very old

556
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: pop up trailer we bought off someone local. Broke all

557
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 2: the heck from the super rough trail you take to

558
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: get to the back camping beach, So we can't go

559
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: camping anymore this year. Whooo Is that like a thank

560
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: God we don't have to go camping with the family anymore.

561
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 4: Wait read that next sentence.

562
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: It's okay, we got a cheap use one just to

563
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 2: see how camping would be with their family before, and

564
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: we knew it would probably not last more than a

565
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: year or so.

566
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 4: Got it. I thought she was gonna be like glad,

567
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 4: I can't see mother in law.

568
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's okay. I didn't want to go camping again anyway.

569
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 4: I know some people are really into like trailer camping.

570
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 4: They spend two months every weekend going Yeah, it's crazy.

571
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 4: Yeah I don't. I mean I like outdoors.

572
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 2: I want to I want to go cabin glamping. I

573
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: want to go stand a cabin.

574
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 4: We gotta go. We gotta go to Gatlinburg. Where's that Tennessee.

575
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 2: Let's do it. If we get a cabin, I'm so

576
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 2: down to do like hiking every day and go lake.

577
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 2: Let's get a cabin by a lake.

578
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 5: You want to go to Tahoe or Big Bear, Well we.

579
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: Can also go to Vermont. So overall, my weekend was

580
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: spent making memories with the kids while simultaneously continuously telling

581
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: mother in law to f off. I am beyond trained

582
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 2: and so glad it's over. Sorry for such a long post.

583
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: If you've read through it, you can give me some

584
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: tips and out of better handle things. Going no contact

585
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: is not an option, and I'm very very low contact anyway,

586
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: or just offer solidarity by telling me I'm not alone

587
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: and you have mother in laws who act in similar ways.

588
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: I am just blown away by her behavior every time

589
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 2: I see her, And the worst part, I think is

590
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 2: that everyone else seems oblivious to it and treats me

591
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 2: like I'm the crazy one. If I say something, she

592
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 2: has treated like some amazing angel or queen me and

593
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 2: while I'm just seen as her attention seeking, snarling baby

594
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: rabies witch. Sometimes I wonder, though, why I think she's

595
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 2: so exhausting and horrid when no one else seems to

596
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: and everyone else thinks she's wonderful. And there are some comments.

597
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 4: I gotta do camping soon, that's your comment.

598
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 2: Yep, she sounds really troublesome. Have you asked your significant

599
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: other to talk to his mother and set some boundaries?

600
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: Mother in law tends to listen to their kids. Opie

601
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 2: says she really is I have before, and in the

602
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 2: past he would dodge it or make excuses, which is

603
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: a problem. She's really good at doing her efery when

604
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: he's not around. He's a smoker and goes outside for

605
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: smoke or when we would go to replace usually other

606
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: people are up there hanging out. Her home is the

607
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: main place in our small town people gather at, so

608
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: a lot of times he's outside socializing with the guys

609
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 2: while I hang out with the kids, which I'm fine with.

610
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: I tell him to do this for a break, but

611
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: that's when mother in law acts up with her nod

612
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: sets to me and the kids. A lot of times

613
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: in the past, I think this was more disbelief than

614
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: being a bad husband or whatever. But I would tell

615
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: him what she did or said, and he would try

616
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: to say no, she didn't, or make excuses like she's

617
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 2: just an excited grandma, or she's just trying to be

618
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 2: helpful or something dumb. And of course I sounded crazy

619
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: when I said it, But she isn't. She's doing it

620
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: on purpose for whatever reason anyway, So his excuse would

621
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 2: be that since he wasn't actually present for the effery,

622
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: then it would be awkward and not make sense for

623
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 2: him to randomly call her hours after we left or

624
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: days later, because honestly, it takes me days to weeks

625
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: to tell him what his mother did, because I'm so

626
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: tired of telling him and having him make excuses for

627
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: her or shrug it off like nothing, and in the meantime,

628
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: I'm cranky and stressed because I have no one to

629
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: talk about it, and then nothing ends up happening.

630
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 4: I will say, Opie sounds like she needs a group

631
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 4: of girls, group of girls, even mother about the mother

632
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 4: in law. Mother in law needs a group of girls.

633
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: Everyone needs a group girls. It's this girl a.

634
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 4: Group, got a bridge night something.

635
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: I I think you just need you and your husband

636
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: need to go on the same page about like how

637
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: you're parenting your children. Yeah, and you need to just

638
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,959
Speaker 2: say like, hey, she's kind of you know, over like

639
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: overstepping whenever I'm trying to parent the kids. And then

640
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: she says something else. I think it's frustrating. Yeah, recently,

641
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: like a few months ago. Now, I lost it and

642
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: told him everything and told him he needs to step

643
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: up and stop being a pansy about his mother, otherwise

644
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: he's going to lose his wife and kids.

645
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 5: Dang, for a pansy bro, and.

646
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: I told him to pick which one he wants more.

647
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: He drove up to his mother's house and told her

648
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: he's been a terrible husband and father by protecting his

649
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: mother's feelings and wants over mine, and told her he'd

650
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: be calling her out on her bs from now on,

651
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: and that I will be telling him what she says

652
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: and does when he isn't around because he knows she

653
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: does it when he leaves the room, and that when

654
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: I tell him, he will be contacting her to tell

655
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: her to knock it off. Apparently she was good about it,

656
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: but ever since then she's been ten million times worse

657
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: with me and does it in front of everyone now,

658
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: even my husband, like she's challenging us.

659
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 4: Do you want huh? What do you want? Awful get away?

660
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 5: He just wants babies.

661
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: Stop, dude, Come on, I mean, at least the husband's

662
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: you know, you know, doing something now. Finally, anyway, he

663
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: has stepped up more. Not anything crazy, but he has

664
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: started to tell her to knock it off, tell her

665
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: I'm the kid's mother, not her, and that I have

666
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: things handled. He also stops saying that I'm the one

667
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: who doesn't want to go to something or blaming things

668
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: on me, so he still looks good and started saying sorry,

669
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: we have plans and just using we like a team. Wow. Okay,

670
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: Oh he wasn't doing that before. He was like, oh sorry,

671
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: oh he doesn't want to do that. Why are you

672
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: Your husband was really not doing a great job before.

673
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: She did listen to him in the past, but now

674
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: she just seems completely unhinged after he called her completely

675
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: out about everything. It's exhausting and comment to mostly it

676
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: sounds like you did great. I would have liked to

677
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: read more involvement from husband, but as you said, he

678
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: has the excuse of being occupied. Where was he for

679
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: the storytime debate when she had a hold of your daughter?

680
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: That one bothers me most. You also need to start

681
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: teaching your daughter that it's okay to say no or

682
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: let me go, even to grandma or any adult when

683
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: they're doing something that makes them uncomfortable slash they don't like.

684
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: Consider a code word for you and your hobby, like

685
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: every time you're about to be nearer, set up a

686
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: phrase or word to indicate step up. Like mother in

687
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: law has a death grip on a child trying to escape.

688
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: Husband did we bring bananas or whatever, and he knows

689
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: that something is amiss and he needs to step up.

690
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: Number one, he may realize more and then catch on

691
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: more without needing the codes. And two, shutting down will

692
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: mean more from him.

693
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 4: Okay, I like that. Yeah, I like that makes them

694
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 4: more aware, makes them more aware seeing something. You're not

695
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 4: blatanting like, hey.

696
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: Your mom's missing your mom she's being Yeah, you're just

697
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: like bananas, Like.

698
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: He passed me the green apples. Hey, husband, I need

699
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 4: a pine apple. Could you go to the store and

700
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 4: get some grapes? And then you hit him when they

701
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 4: up yup, just like that. Yeah, just like that, Opie.

702
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: He really struggled with that one, I think because his

703
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: mother was so dang persistent and would not let up.

704
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: She was just buzzing in everyone's ears, saying, Nana, what

705
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: read it? Nana, what read it? So he told her

706
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: to stop holding our daughter captive. After I did like,

707
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: he backed me up. But then he caved and offered

708
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: her to read his story after I read mine. But

709
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: I piped up loudly said no, honey, she loves when

710
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: you read her a story every night, and he said

711
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: you're right and started reading. He's like a robot. He's like,

712
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: you are right.

713
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 4: I will read now you are correct.

714
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: We do teach her that, and she's extremely good at

715
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: enforcing her boundaries and telling people now stop, that's not nice,

716
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: and telling people to say sorry, even telling people she

717
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: speaking and they need to be quiet. I think in

718
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: that moment, the way mother in law abruptly and a

719
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: bit aggressively said don't go anywhere, kind of stunned my

720
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: daughter in a way I've honestly never really seen her stunned,

721
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: and she just stayed put. I think she thought she

722
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: was or would be, in trouble. Any other time she

723
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: would have loudly told her to let her go and

724
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: spoken up for herself, but for some reason, this one

725
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: time she didn't. It concerns me because I've never seen

726
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: her get so quiet and just stay put. The code

727
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: word is a really good idea husband can tell usually

728
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: when I'm fighting his mother off and he jumps in,

729
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: but sometimes he's honestly just oblivious. So a code word

730
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: would be helpful and simple enough. And there is a

731
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: second update.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sam, your og host.

733
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Speaker 4: Do you have any thoughts, Riley, I'm gonna go camping soon.

737
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 4: But your husband does me to stand up?

738
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it seems like he is. You just don't

739
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: think enough.

740
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 4: There was Okay. I understand that sometimes when people don't

741
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 4: see a wound, they need to prep it and then

742
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 4: it will heal over time. I feel like it's going

743
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 4: from the prep part of what is where is this wound?

744
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 4: What do I need to do to fix it? And

745
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,959
Speaker 4: it is slowly getting to the healing part. I feel

746
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 4: like he needs to put more focus on what we

747
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 4: need in order to heal this.

748
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need a little bit more neo sporn.

749
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 4: Yes, we need more bandages. We need more maybe even

750
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 4: like a stint, maybe a stitch exactly. I just don't

751
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 4: think he's I think he's on the right track. He's

752
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: on the right track.

753
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: But I'm on think he just to behave consistently. But

754
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: I think he's on the right track.

755
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, just be more in the lookout, I think, is

756
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 4: what I'm looking at. Yeah, update too, Oh there's more.

757
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: I ended up telling my husband about the things his

758
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: mother did. At first, I was really reluctant, but he

759
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: said i'd been acting differently since we got back from

760
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: our camping trip last weekend. Although I've been normal, I've

761
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: barely spoken and I've been closed off, and he thought

762
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: something really terrible happened. So first, I told him that

763
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: I'm hesitant to tell him things about his mother. Said,

764
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: this is about mom, right, because a lot of times

765
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: I'm shrugged her off. I've shrugged it off, or he

766
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: made excuses for her and such. He told me he

767
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: really wants a relationship to work. You can read my

768
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: previous posts, but basically, about two months ago, I told

769
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: him I was very close to walking out, and he

770
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 2: drove to his parents' house and told them he's been

771
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: a crappy, has been YadA, YadA, YadA. I decided to

772
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: open up, and I told him about the constant interfering

773
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: with my parenting and overstepping. I told him about her

774
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: answering for me when I asked her a question and

775
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: telling her it's okay, don't worry about it when I

776
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: just told her to say sorry to someone. I also

777
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: told him that I did stand up for myself and

778
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 2: tell his mother to back off, and I wasn't rude

779
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: about it yet she scoffed and dramatically walked away or

780
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: ignored me, and then repeatedly did what I asked her

781
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: to stop doing all week and long. I said that

782
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 2: I discussed this with his mother two months ago after

783
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: he told his parents he was done with their crap,

784
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: and his mother told me, Oh, just tell me when

785
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: I do something you don't like, and I won't do it.

786
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: I think that's been said like fifty times. Man. Yeah,

787
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: so I said, what is the point in that when

788
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: she acts worse after I tell her, She's like, let

789
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: me know what I'm doing wrong, so I can do

790
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: it even worse, so I can do it the most wrong.

791
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, you did something wrong there, I'm gonna make it

792
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 4: ten times worse. That was bad. Take that out, editor.

793
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: So my options are to suck it up and resent

794
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: her or tell her to stop. She still does it,

795
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: which just makes me resent her even more for her

796
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: blatant disrespect. Husband listened to my entire rant like he

797
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: said he would. Then he apologized to me multiple times,

798
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: telling me he thought I'd handled it when I told

799
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: her to back off. He heard me a few times

800
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: he was off doing things like cooking dinner or trying

801
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: to fix our trailer. That but broke things he couldn't

802
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: walk away from, but he said he knows I was

803
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: very respectful and she had no reason to react the

804
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: way she did. He had no idea it was eating

805
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: me up so much, and if he had known, he

806
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: would have had my back. He acknowledged that his mom

807
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: definitely does her bs when he's or unable to step in.

808
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 2: He said he will make more of an effort to

809
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: stay nearby, and if he isn't and I tell him

810
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: about something upsetting, he will contact her immediately and tell

811
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: her what she did was unacceptable. I told him I

812
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: didn't tell him while out camping because I didn't want

813
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: to ruin his time out there and also didn't want

814
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: to argue while camping. He said he appreciated that. However,

815
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: next time, he wants me to tell him immediately if

816
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: I'm upset so he can support me and stand up

817
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: for me. Overall, he was extremely genuine and caring. Hopefully,

818
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: moving forward, he does have my back. He said he

819
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: completely understands why I wouldn't really want to be around

820
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: someone who acts that way, and that he will be

821
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: speaking to her about her role as a grandmother and

822
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 2: my role as the kid's mother. She needs to stop

823
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: playing mom to our kids, especially stop undermining and disrespecting

824
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: me as their mother. I also brought up how he

825
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: uses the excuse that she's just an excited grandmother, which

826
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: she said, yes, he did think that sometimes. I asked him,

827
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: fair enough, but is that more important than my as

828
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 2: a mother?

829
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 5: Mmmm?

830
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: Good on you, op mm hmmmm mm. Are her memories

831
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: and moments as a grandmother more important? He said absolutely not.

832
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 2: You're right. And also, this is going back to the

833
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: we had mentioned earlier, like people were saying, like, oh,

834
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you could just let the grandmother, you know,

835
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,479
Speaker 2: help out or whatever the title was, that Opie felt

836
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 2: like she was missing out on being a mother. So

837
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 2: I feel like at the at the root of this,

838
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 2: this is Opie's like I'm missing out on these moments

839
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: because she keeps trying to step in and and like

840
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: take them all from me.

841
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, dang or all these.

842
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: Moments are also coupled with Opie trying to fend off

843
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 2: her grandmother or fend off her mother in law, which

844
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: is also frustrating.

845
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 4: She did say, I'm trying to read my I don't

846
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 4: know it would be cool to read to your kid

847
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 4: at a campfire a story and then being barraged No, no, no,

848
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 4: let me read read and it's like, you can't have

849
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 4: you can't be with your kids. Yeah, you have to

850
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 4: protect that, and you're having to fight for that. No

851
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 4: mother should have to fight for then.

852
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: But you know you also don't have to fight for

853
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: what full episodes of stories just like this. Just go

854
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 2: to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or iHeartRadio and search a pokey

855
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: story time. But there is a little bit left to

856
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: the story. Do you have any final final thoughts?

857
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 4: No, I have none.

858
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: Oh they have one, Riley, Yeah, I have one thought.

859
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 5: One thought.

860
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna bring sister in law into this, get her involved.

861
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 4: One Does sister in law have kids too? You know

862
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 4: she also getting the same treatment or will she get

863
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 4: the same treatment?

864
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

865
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 5: Probably no, one hundred percent. You know why, because the

866
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 5: mother in law is going to focus all of her

867
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 5: attention to sister in law.

868
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 2: Well, I think right now I'm saying she doesn't get

869
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: there because.

870
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 4: She doesn't have any kids or not.

871
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 5: But when that does happen.

872
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 4: She does have kids, Yeah, but I don't know that's

873
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 4: going to happen. Yeah. I have seen family dynamics where

874
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 4: whenever it's like grandparents and they have like four kids,

875
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 4: and whenever one of the kids have a young and

876
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 4: they are now like the best kids, like best fam

877
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 4: because I have the youngest child. Yeah, and then as

878
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 4: soon as like another young child's around, they kind of

879
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 4: like forget that and then like the new child child's

880
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 4: the best one. What are you doing here to replace

881
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 4: these kids? Yeah?

882
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: Where was I?

883
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 6: Oh?

884
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: Dutchess Cassanda says, I hate that. The husband is like,

885
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: I thought you got this, so I didn't step in

886
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: like freaking support your wife. Yeah, used like I thought

887
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: you I thought you had a handle, so I thought

888
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 2: I didn't you know.

889
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 5: Like I said earlier, the husband was like, hmm, don't

890
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 5: want to deal with that.

891
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 2: The frick really just punted me in the face.

892
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 4: Did this.

893
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: I also told him that she had her time to

894
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: be a mom and now it's just my time. It

895
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: is a new age of mothers. She needs to respect

896
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: that or she will lose her grandmother privileges because I

897
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: am done. He agreed that was fair. He agreed to

898
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: keep his mother in her lane, and finally acknowledged it's

899
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: not my job to do so. He also acknowledged that

900
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: he witnessed me attempting to and saw or heard her

901
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 2: blatantly ignore me, So now he knows one hundred percent

902
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 2: that she acts that way.

903
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 4: I just hope the husband can walk away knowing how

904
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 4: to support his wife, because it feels like the wife

905
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 4: has like a shield. This is what the wife's doing now,

906
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 4: shield sword baby. She's having to carry all three man

907
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 4: and another baby. She has like two babies and doing

908
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 4: this and the husband's.

909
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: Like, it's exhausting. He's like, you got this, You're good,

910
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: You're doing great. From the sidelines, it's behind a door,

911
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: He's like, you got this.

912
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

913
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: But that is the end of that story.

914
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 4: My boyfriend's family condolens his cheating, so I pulled back

915
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 4: my support for his daughter.

916
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they're gonna support him cheating, then you gotta

917
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: support leavin.

918
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 4: I try. I Female twenty nine usually stay with my

919
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 4: boyfriend Carl thirty eight male on weekends. He lives with

920
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 4: his daughter sixteen female when he is in. When he

921
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 4: is in due to joint customing, he works a job

922
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 4: that he hates because he has no opportunities for growing

923
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 4: his career. So seven months ago, he started a company

924
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 4: with an associate, Gabby thirty five female. By the way,

925
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 4: this comes from small Room in twenty three and if

926
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Speaker 4: you want to me your old stories, go to Okay

927
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 4: Storytime Subred. So she's definitely successful and knowledgeable. So my

928
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 4: concern was what would happen if she ever decided to

929
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 4: cut him off. I'm mentioning this because his contribution to

930
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 4: their association was to bring clients but not technical or anything.

931
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 4: But not technically, not technical.

932
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: And he has no technical like he's not helping the

933
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 2: company in any technical or like business way or something.

934
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: He just knows people.

935
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 4: Okay, this is a tricky line because I know a

936
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 4: guy that runs a virtual like animations. He's the guy.

937
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 4: He's pretty technical too, but he knows everyone and basically

938
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 4: can produce a movie with just his team, but he

939
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 4: doesn't release their names, so he's like the middleman. Yeah.

940
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 2: See, the problem is once you introduce all the clients,

941
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: it's like you kind of made yourself obsolete a little bit.

942
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, for the past five months he stayed out late

943
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 4: while working on their plants, had any reason for doubt

944
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 4: or suspicion until he went to meet her on a

945
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 4: Sunday afternoon. I didn't say anything because I know starting

946
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 4: a business requires a lot of effort, but it's odd

947
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 4: to allow an associate to interfere with family life. Two

948
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 4: weekends ago, she showed up and beriated him for cheating

949
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 4: on her. We were hanging out at his place with

950
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 4: his two brothers, mother in law, and his daughter and

951
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 4: sister in law. Gabby showed up knocking out the door

952
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 4: while Carl was in the shower. I started getting weirded

953
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 4: out when his family seemed hesitant to answer the door.

954
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 4: His brother finally went to talk to her, but she

955
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 4: walked past him and confronted me. She asked about her relationship.

956
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 4: I'll admit I was a bit rude because I got defensive.

957
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, because someone just came in and said, Wow, why

958
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: do you know Carl, And You're like, this is my

959
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: freaking boyfriend.

960
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 4: His older brother went to Carl and it all turned

961
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 4: into a crap shot. At this point, I'm disgusted. I

962
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 4: don't know who was the real girlfriend and who was

963
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: the side chick. Also, it's worth noting that she accused

964
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 4: his family of betraying her. Did they even work together

965
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 4: Gabby and Carl? Yeah, they did for sure? Or was

966
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 4: it always a lie?

967
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 2: Mmm?

968
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 4: I see him Carl remained vague when I demanded some answers,

969
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 4: and I felt like slapping him, but I controlled myself.

970
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: She stormed out after an ugly exchange. I broke up

971
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 4: with him that same day and haven't been able to

972
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 4: find my way back into a good mental state. I

973
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 4: can't believe anything he says, so whatever he explains will

974
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 4: be a lie.

975
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: There is no explanation he was he was seeing two

976
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: people at the same time.

977
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 4: Yeah. Ugh, this is where I might be the a hole.

978
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 4: I made the decision to pull my support for his daughter.

979
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 4: I had been paying for a makeup subscription box, but

980
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 4: canceled it. Okay, she was getting her prom dress as

981
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 4: a loan from a friend of mine who has four girls.

982
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 4: I told my friend what happened, and we agreed that

983
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 4: it's his daughter. Oh and we agreed that his daughter

984
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 4: doesn't deserve any of my help.

985
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 2: Okay, see, okay, I understood the makeup subscription, But like

986
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 2: telling your friend not to give her a discount, seems

987
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: a little harsh. Like the daughter didn't do anything.

988
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 4: Wrong, daughter didn't do anything. I say, whatever commitments you have,

989
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: the daughter, ruffle them ount Like.

990
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: I think the makeup subscription one makes sense because that's

991
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: like ongoing paying money. Yeah, but like the other one

992
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: is just a discount.

993
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, just a discount. Maybe after prom ruffle it out,

994
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 4: you aren't gonna get it anymore.

995
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, could erivances. That's not her responsibility, not the ale.

996
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 2: I agree, it's not her responsibility, but I think it's

997
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: for me. It's like, it's not her responsibility to keep

998
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: something going, but I feel like taking something away that

999
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: actually doesn't have any you know, the monetary you know.

1000
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 4: So she also punts them both off of my streaming

1001
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 4: services and will not keep and will not help with

1002
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 4: the history school project, nor will I keep her in

1003
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 4: my magazine subscription plan. So things like that that.

1004
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: Makes more sense to me of like things where Yeah,

1005
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 2: I just think the the direct mom dress thing feels

1006
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: like a little bit of her you know, unnecessary one.

1007
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 4: Okay, No, Ded Carl reached out trying to discuss what

1008
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 4: I'm doing about his daughter. He just said, he just

1009
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 4: said she's just a teenager and she shouldn't pay for

1010
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 4: his mistakes. I agree that she has no power to

1011
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 4: keep him from doing bad things, nor to keep him

1012
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 4: from being a liar. And I know that she wouldn't

1013
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 4: be in a position to tell Slash warn me about

1014
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 4: her dad was cheating. But she's almost seventeen next month,

1015
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 4: and she's very immature, and she's definitely capable of telling

1016
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 4: right from wrong. She had zero problems getting stuff and

1017
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 4: receiving help and favors from me, and was comfortable asking

1018
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 4: for things. She's not a brat or the demanding type.

1019
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 4: She's low key asked for stuff and I was happy

1020
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 4: to help. I'm sure she also benefited from Gabby the

1021
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 4: other girl, because it makes sense since I'm under the

1022
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 4: impression that Gabby was no stranger to her either. I

1023
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 4: told him let Gabby do it, and he tried to

1024
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 4: complain about how Gabby vandalized their website. Oh, she choke

1025
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 4: their page down and it shows and all it shows

1026
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 4: is a black screen.

1027
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: Because he has no technical he can't help. But the

1028
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: taat is now at works.

1029
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 4: He says. She locked him out of all logins and

1030
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 4: supposedly and all her contacts block him. The only thing

1031
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 4: giving a little drawer right now is imagining him unclothed

1032
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 4: and holding his balls out in the cold. Oh like

1033
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 4: like he's like, he's like.

1034
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: It's just like metaphorically, yeah, am I the a hole.

1035
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 4: My friends are divided over this, not because of him,

1036
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 4: but because they say she's just a teenager comments he's

1037
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 4: johnio og host here.

1038
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories, but he's a

1039
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: quick three minute break of aspim more sponsors.

1040
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 2: I was wondering if she even knew, but I guess

1041
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: the whole family kind of knew what the situation was.

1042
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: I honestly I probably would have done the you know,

1043
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: stop continuing to paying for to pay for stuff, but

1044
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have done the dress.

1045
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 4: Thing, the dress things too far. That's Sophia's line.

1046
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,240
Speaker 2: I think it's just like you don't need to like

1047
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: like don't I think my line is just don't do anything,

1048
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: you know, like no further things.

1049
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 4: Got it ruffle it out update Thanks to everyone who

1050
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 4: took time to reply. I think the consensus was about

1051
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 4: his daughter. I will not be contacting her at all.

1052
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: I reached out to Gabby via social media and she replied.

1053
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 4: I explained my position and that I didn't know about

1054
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 4: her hints why I was very rude and reacted with hostility.

1055
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 4: We exchanged messages. She said that initially he told her

1056
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 4: we were in an open relationship, but that was about

1057
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 4: to end. They were talking for months before they began

1058
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 4: their relationship. She said he first introduced his kid, then

1059
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 4: his younger brother, and that she met his mom when

1060
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 4: Paul invited her for lunch and had his mom show

1061
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 4: up without telling her. Also, she said his mom was

1062
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 4: less than friendly and made a small scene because she

1063
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 4: decided to pick a fight with her boyfriend. He and

1064
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 4: mother in law are currently broken up. There's no way

1065
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 4: she's making this up. Mother in law treated that guy

1066
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 4: like crap about his daughter. Paul used to visit Gabby

1067
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 4: on some weekends and would leave his kid at Gabby's

1068
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 4: place because they bonded over do you do it yourself projects?

1069
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1070
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:17,479
Speaker 4: Why, now I know where his daughter got her fairy Yeah,

1071
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 4: fairy fairy, witchy, fantasy elf, palmer, clay, jewelry, and hair

1072
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 4: assessories from So, I guess his working weekend gigs was

1073
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 4: a lie?

1074
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: Oh, so saying like, yeah, Gabby got all that, Yeah,

1075
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 2: his daughter got it all from Yabby.

1076
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 4: She said they became a couple about a month or

1077
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 4: two after starting their company because she wouldn't accept an

1078
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 4: open relationship. He told her we were done, when in

1079
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 4: fact we had never broken up, had a crisis nothing, Gabby,

1080
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 4: mentioning that her dad, Ethan, hates him and that things

1081
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 4: began to get rough because of things he did and

1082
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 4: her dad noticed. She said she her dad and other

1083
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 4: family members always meet Saturday dinner or Sunday brunch at

1084
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 4: a particular restaurant, and her dad noticed how she always

1085
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 4: paid for Paul and his kid. If Paul ever paid

1086
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 4: for his own food, he never paid for hers. She said.

1087
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 4: Her dad called her out because he usually paid for

1088
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 4: everyone his treat his family, and he was getting very

1089
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 4: uncomfortable about Paul. He even paid for Paul to avoid

1090
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 4: making a scene, but he was fed up. Her dad

1091
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 4: told Paul he expected to be treated for a change

1092
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 4: as a hostility joke when they arrived at the restaurant,

1093
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 4: and Paul was very offended. Later, Paul told her that

1094
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 4: her dad's remark was a put down. She also said

1095
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 4: her best friend raised concerns about him and that everything

1096
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 4: started to crumble because he didn't attend her family's Christmas

1097
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 4: lunch as he had planned. He remained low key during

1098
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 4: the holidays and and claimed to have influenza. He used

1099
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 4: both of us, but he took far more advantage of

1100
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 4: her because she made material things available. While I don't

1101
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 4: know her except for this situation, her messages show that

1102
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 4: she's very affected but mostly angry. I wouldn't be surprised

1103
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 4: if she ended up destroying him. She repeatedly mentioned that

1104
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 4: he deserves to have his life ruined. And guys, your

1105
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 4: life will not be ruined. If you go to your

1106
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 4: favorite podcast platform, search up Okay, story time and boom,

1107
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 4: we will give you the guideline on how to not

1108
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 4: ruin your lives. That's all you gotta do. Three simple stories.

1109
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: All you gotta do one, two, three?

1110
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 4: And Sylvia, would you ever juggle if you're in a relationship? No,

1111
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 4: two people at once?

1112
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: Why would I do that?

1113
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 4: Well, one of them's holding down the company and the

1114
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 4: other one is, you know, taking care of your kid.

1115
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 4: M No, okay, you got there.

1116
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: Guys, you shouldn't either unless everyone's informed. This is crazy.

1117
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 4: Who's Paul the guy?

1118
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 7: Look?

1119
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 4: Guy opis X.

1120
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: That's Paul? Then who would they talk? I was so

1121
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: confused in that last time. I really was too wul

1122
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 2: And who's the guy he's talking to?

1123
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 4: I didn't know that Paul didn't get an NBA like

1124
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 4: he told me. He never worked two jobs despite what

1125
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 4: he told me and put on his resume. She found

1126
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 4: out because she paid for background checks and other tools

1127
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 4: when things started not adding up. Supposedly, this was part

1128
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 4: of why she started testing his abilities and had been

1129
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 4: thinking about pulling the plug business wise. The ops X yep,

1130
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 4: got it. She said, it's all bs and that he's

1131
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 4: very insecure about his social standing. She told me a

1132
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 4: lot of stuff, but in a nutshell, I'm going to

1133
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 4: get tested for STDs and have already told my family

1134
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 4: what happened. I'm leaving it at that because writing about

1135
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: it makes it really irritating for me being stupid enough

1136
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 4: to believe him. Thanks again, and that is the end

1137
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 4: of that story, man. And we got one comment on

1138
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 4: how do you get backdrone checks done? She say what

1139
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 4: services she used?

1140
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 3: Like that?

1141
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 4: Seems like it should be done right at meeting someone nowadays?

1142
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 4: She didn't say, but I'm assuming it may be a

1143
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 4: service used by HR companies. Also, she said that she

1144
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 4: corroborated his said graduation year to the public PDF document

1145
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 4: from that graduation in that university, and his name was

1146
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 4: never there nor on PDFs five years back or five

1147
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 4: years forward.

1148
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: And there we have it.

1149
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 4: Man, dang, she's smart.

1150
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul, your ex sucks.

1151
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 4: Your ex sucks.

1152
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: But that's the end of that story.

1153
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 4: In that story, we're gonna do a little collin real quick.

1154
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 4: All right, So context everyone, This is science. Salise is Salise.

1155
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 4: Her and her boyfriend broke up three months ago because

1156
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 4: of their uncertainty about having kids. Salise, Hello, Hello, Hi, Hello,

1157
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 4: how are you doing.

1158
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 3: I am alive. How about your guys?

1159
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: We're also alive.

1160
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 4: We're also alive and doing great. I've quest how long

1161
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 4: have you and your boyfriend been together before you guys

1162
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 4: broke up?

1163
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 3: Not long enough to be breaking up of our kids?

1164
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 3: Six months?

1165
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 4: Six months?

1166
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: And what was the missing especially okay, what was the miscommunication?

1167
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 7: So essentially, when we very first spot to beget the

1168
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 7: I was like very from the start, like just so

1169
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 7: you know, I don't think I'm gonna want to have

1170
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 7: kids because I have like history with like other people

1171
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 7: in relationships getting really upset over that, and so I

1172
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 7: just wanted to be really like upfront. But I was

1173
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 7: also like, I'm really open to changing my mind. I

1174
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 7: just don't think I do. So that's like a big.

1175
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 3: Deal for you. We should probably not be in a relationship. Yeah,

1176
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 3: And he was very much like.

1177
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 7: I've always thought I wanted kids, but I'm just not

1178
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 7: sure and I'm open to exploring it.

1179
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 2: Okay, So you guys were both kind of like we're

1180
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 2: open to exploring others like on the fence.

1181
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, And then like our relationship not to be

1182
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 7: like lage people, it always is this way where it's

1183
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 7: like my relationship was part I have no idea where

1184
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 7: what's wrong? Like in reality, like we had a really

1185
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 7: good relationship. We were extremely happy. We had constant check

1186
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 7: ins with each other of like, hey, how's it going.

1187
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 7: Do we have any like concerns, like is when a

1188
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 7: communication is she's happening? And we continuously checked in about

1189
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 7: like our future together and it was continuously going better

1190
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 7: and better and there was no complaints on either end.

1191
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 3: And then like five and a half.

1192
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 7: Weeks ago, we had a issue at dinner where like

1193
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 7: he had made a comment about kids and I kind

1194
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 7: of freaked out a little bit and then like brought

1195
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 7: it up with him and then like, hey, when you

1196
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 7: say these things, it needs me really anxious kind of way,

1197
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 7: and his response was very like I'm so sorry, like

1198
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 7: I'd love to talk to you more about it, like

1199
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 7: don't worry. It's not something that they don't think about,

1200
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 7: like I do think about the fact that you don't

1201
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 7: want kids, but like I'm still open to it, and

1202
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 7: I'm just not like it's too stuon in a relationship

1203
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 7: to know we're also in our mid twenty a conversation,

1204
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 7: I felt just like way better about the whole thing,

1205
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 7: and I like really started to think about, like, Okay,

1206
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 7: do I like why do I not want kids?

1207
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 3: You know? And so then I started thinking about that.

1208
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 7: I'm going to do some self discovery for like the

1209
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 7: last five and a half weeks, so I was like,

1210
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 7: oh wait, actually maybe I do, like I'm trying to

1211
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 7: have all these different feelings. And then one day, just

1212
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 7: out of the blue, he came over to my apartment

1213
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 7: and he started sobbing and said that he'd been thinking

1214
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 7: about it for like the last week and he just

1215
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 7: doesn't think he can risk us dating and us breaking

1216
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 7: up in five years from now when our entire lives

1217
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 7: are entwined if I don't want kids, and he just

1218
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 7: wasn't willing to take the risk, and he freaked out

1219
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 7: and broke up with me. And yeah, and so since then,

1220
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 7: I've been on like a three week intensive therapy trip.

1221
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 3: Essentially, I'm trying to figure out how I feel about everything, and.

1222
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 7: I've discovered that, like a lot of my dislike for

1223
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 7: having children was actually just me being really scared because

1224
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 7: I had a really bad childhood and I was scared

1225
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 7: that if I had kids, I would just give them

1226
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 7: also a bad childhoods And so yeah, so I have

1227
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 7: since like I have since realized that, like I actually

1228
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 7: do really want children, and I just have a lot

1229
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 7: of trauma that I'm still working through in that area,

1230
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 7: but I do really want kids. And you have reached

1231
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 7: out to him.

1232
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 4: You do have trauma, but you're working on that, and

1233
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 4: it sounds like you're going to like therapy and stuff

1234
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 4: like that. Are you doing a lot of self reflection?

1235
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I have.

1236
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 7: I have a therapist that's like focus is on family

1237
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 7: planning and like childhood trauma.

1238
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 3: And I've been in therapy for three years.

1239
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 2: And you reached out to him.

1240
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I reached out to him and he said

1241
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 7: he was willing to have dinner, but he wasn't sure

1242
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 7: if he was willing to explore our relationship any further.

1243
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 7: But he doesn't know that I'm going to drop a

1244
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 7: bomb at the same time, you know. Yeah, So I

1245
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 7: just I just want to go in I don't I

1246
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 7: have my big fears that I'm going to go into

1247
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 7: this conversation and he's going to think that I made

1248
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 7: these changes for him or something, which is definitely not

1249
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 7: the case. And I don't know, I just am having

1250
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 7: like a really hard time because you haven't had any

1251
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 7: We went from talking all day every day to not

1252
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 7: having really any communication for three weeks except for like

1253
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,439
Speaker 7: two small comments to each other.

1254
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's just like a scary thing to go into.

1255
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have some I think I've got some thoughts

1256
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 4: me too, I have a lot of thoughts. So to

1257
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 4: be clear, he doesn't want kids too, or he does

1258
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 4: want kids, and you kind of like kids.

1259
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Nasals is saying that through like over the

1260
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 2: past couple of weeks, you've realized that you also want kids.

1261
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 4: I think, you know, I've had these troubles happened before

1262
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 4: in my relationship. We're like, you know, and you know,

1263
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 4: we'll talk and we're like, wow, we don't even know

1264
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 4: what the future is going to look like. We don't

1265
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 4: and we get in our heads we don't know what

1266
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 4: it looks like blah blah blah blah blah, bah blah.

1267
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 4: This guy really sounds like he has your best interest

1268
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 4: in mine and being heartbroken. You know, it sucks, it's

1269
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 4: the worst, it's a risk, but it's also like, you know,

1270
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 4: loving someone, it shows how much you love them and

1271
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 4: how much you care for him. And I think, like focusing,

1272
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 4: like do you do you enjoy spending your day with him?

1273
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 3: With my boyfriend or my expert friend?

1274
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, your boyfriend yeah yeah, yeah.

1275
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I've never I've never had a relationship where

1276
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 6: I felt as like actually just secure and happy as

1277
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 6: this one. Yeah, like just constantly id like we had

1278
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 6: no real issues that I could identify.

1279
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 4: I think, you know, five years from now, you're going

1280
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 4: to be a different and better person. Hopefully five years

1281
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 4: from now he'll be a different and better person too.

1282
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 4: And if you are willing to bet on that and

1283
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 4: you're willing to understand, like you know, explain to him

1284
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 4: like yeah, you know, we can't we're not promised tomorrow.

1285
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 4: We don't know what tomorrow is really going to look like.

1286
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 4: But I know today I want to be with you,

1287
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 4: and I enjoy being with you, and we can figure

1288
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 4: that out. You know, as long as we go, I think,

1289
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, yeah.

1290
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 2: I also think on the side of like, you can't

1291
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 2: really know how he's going to react, and you know,

1292
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 2: if he does say he doesn't want to get in

1293
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 2: a relationship where he doesn't, you could only go into

1294
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 2: this conversation with you know, being honest about your feelings

1295
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 2: to him and saying, hey, I've had all of his

1296
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 2: time to reflect and just make it clear that you know,

1297
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: it's not really about him in this moment, like this

1298
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 2: is a decision that you came to by yourself that

1299
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 2: is kind of separate from him, like I want kids,

1300
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,479
Speaker 2: and just being yeah, being super honest and knowing that

1301
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 2: whatever he says, you have found something out about yourself

1302
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: and that's a huge deal as well.

1303
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, And it seems like that comment that he

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Speaker 4: made at dinner one time was you know, you know,

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Speaker 4: guys like to think about the future. They like, you know,

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Speaker 4: they see your girl friend across the street and they're like,

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Speaker 4: I can imagine my life with him, and I'm and

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Speaker 4: I'm betting Like while he was sitting across from you

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Speaker 4: at dinner or beside of you at dinner, he was

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Speaker 4: probably like, man, I like I can't wait to see

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Speaker 4: what that possibly looks like, or like he sees a

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Speaker 4: glimpse of his future with you, and he also is

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Speaker 4: scared and he's like, you know, putting up, putting on

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Speaker 4: his armor that he doesn't get hurt later in the future.

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Speaker 4: But you know that's a bet, that's a risk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all relationships are at risk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that you're that you want to decide, like do

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Speaker 4: I want to take it? Do I want to see it?

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Speaker 4: And I think you know, if it doesn't work out

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Speaker 4: in the end, you've.

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Speaker 2: Still been honest. You've still told him how you felt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you've been honest, you told how you felt. And

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Speaker 4: plus you've enjoyed every moment you've been with that person. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you can take that for granted.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Thanks.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, like I'm I'm excited, I'm also terrified.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a scary conversation, yeah, because it means a

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Speaker 2: lot to you. Yeah, that's a huge conversation. But I

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Speaker 2: think just like knowing I whatever happens like that, this

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Speaker 2: it seems like this the last couple of weeks have

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Speaker 2: been a really big time of self discovery for you.

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Speaker 2: So that's a win, Like regardless it is, however your

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Speaker 2: relationship turns out like this is a win for you.

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Speaker 4: And there's a quote. I don't know if if this

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Speaker 4: is like a big quote, but there's something called like

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Speaker 4: I love you more. And sometimes whenever I'm like having

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Speaker 4: a tough day or like I'm not really like su

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Speaker 4: for sure of my relationship with Angie, I'll be like,

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Speaker 4: I love you more. And it doesn't mean like I

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Speaker 4: love her more than she loves me. It means that

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Speaker 4: I love her more than the obstacles will face than

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Speaker 4: the people that get in between us, then the hard

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Speaker 4: days ahead of us. And if and you know that

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Speaker 4: I love her more than that, if you if that's

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Speaker 4: sort of like the person you want to like love

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Speaker 4: more than and you want to say that, go for it.

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Speaker 4: But I mean that's up to you. But that's usually

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Speaker 4: a quote that lets me know I'm ready for whatever

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Speaker 4: comes ahead of us and the obstacles. But you got this,

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Speaker 4: you got it ya. Hopefully that helps.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully.

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Speaker 3: Also also one thing, my name is Sallas.

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Speaker 2: Salas, Salas, apologies, Salas. We wills shoot so much luck

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Speaker 2: and we know that you're gonna, you know, go into

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Speaker 2: this conversation and have a great conversation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you got it.

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Speaker 3: I'll keep you guys updated.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Yes, and there's some more great comments in

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Speaker 2: the chat as well.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'll go check all right and keep us updated.

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Speaker 4: Let us know how it goes.

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Speaker 2: Oh, but I have a great rest of your day

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Speaker 2: and flight wherever you're.

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Speaker 3: Yep, fine, home right.

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Speaker 4: Everyone put hearts in the shot for for Salas Silas,

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Speaker 4: all right, bye, bye bye, all right, and guys, that

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Speaker 4: is the end of that episode. So if you love us,

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Speaker 4: make sure to subscribe.

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Speaker 2: We love you and see you tomorrow.