1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Doug Gotlieb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 1: Easter twelve, two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: local station for the Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching app as car Booming Up America 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I hope you're having 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: a great day of Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live every day. 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: We're sort of by coastal Midwestern whatever. I'm in Green Bay. 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: They're in Sherman Oas, California. Jay Stew's here, Dan Byers here, Iowa. 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: Sam is here. We got the entire crew. Spectacular college 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 2: football weekend, fun college basketball weekend, and uh yeah, what 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: we thought has come true for the most part. In 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: the NFL, although we still have to have questions now 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: about the kansasitate Chiefs, and maybe some of those answers 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: have been answered with the Denver Broncos. Can you win 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: ugly against the elite teams of the NFL, not just 18 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: the bottom team? So the NFL welcome, Welcome in. I 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: went to Eagles Packers Monday Night. And that's a little 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: bit of a humble brag, but it's also setting for 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: you context of it, and the context should be that 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: one of the things I offered up this week and 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: the questioning Green Bay all week and even yesterday when 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: the Packers beat the Giants and Jordan Love looked great, 25 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: is why were the Packers so conservative on Monday Night? 26 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: And they kept running the football with Josh Jacobs instead 27 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: of letting Jordan Love throw the ball. The other takeaway 28 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: from Monday Night was having been there, I didn't think 29 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: that they utilized that the Eagles utilized AJ Brown at all. 30 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: And I'm not an AJ Brown guy, I'm not an 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: Eagle fan, but for a guy who I think all 32 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: of us deemed to be very, very talented, you would 33 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: think that they would use him even as a decoy 34 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: or focus upon him and make somebody take him away. 35 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: And it wasn't like the Packers didn't pay attention to him, 36 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: but it wasn't like they were throwing three guys his 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: way the way you would with like a Jamar Chase. 38 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: So fast forward to last night, Sunday Night Football where 39 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: the Eagles take on the Lions and the Lions. They 40 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: couldn't block at all, couldn't block at all, and aj 41 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: Brown was the focal point season nine eleven targets was 42 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: a big focal point of the Eagles offense. And then 43 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 2: you have the Lions offense. What went wrong there? I'm 44 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: going to start with the Lions offense because, again, I 45 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: when you're coaching, and quite frankly, when you're calling plays 46 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: in coaching, this is something that I'm very well equipped 47 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: to talk about. Even though basketball and football are are different, 48 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: there's some similarities. One of the things that's similar and Buyer, 49 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if you and I have talked about this, 50 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: but I pattern what we do offensively after the Kansasity Chiefs. 51 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: And here's why. The Kansasity Chiefs. They don't run that 52 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: many plays, you know, again to simplify and say they 53 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: run ten plays, but they run all these different formations 54 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: in motion so that you're you're trying to guess where 55 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: they're going or what they're doing a lot of slight 56 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: of hand and then they run power or they run something. 57 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: They run these they got their screen game is always exquisite, right, Yeah, 58 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: And so there's a million different things, but really it's 59 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:43,559 Speaker 2: like five plays. 60 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: Gus Maul's on with Auburn going to the National championship 61 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: game against Florida State about twelve years ago. 62 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: Same thing. 63 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And so yes, there's simplicity and execution, but 64 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: there's also the slide of hand where you throw a 65 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: bunch of different stuff. But you're really key being it simple. 66 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: You just have to have your guys understand the Aha, 67 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: it looks different but it's really the same. And then 68 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: you know you have to read the defense within it. Well, 69 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: I'm the play caller for our team, and you can 70 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: sit there and go like, oh, your record's fine. Like 71 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: if you think I'm about it, it's okay. But I 72 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: can tell you when I'm watching Dan Campbell, I think 73 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: he's a play caller, but I think he's calling plays 74 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: for somebody else's offense. And there's also a lack of 75 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 2: kind of rhythm to it. And and I'm not perfect 76 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: with it. Okay, I've done it only AU level and 77 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: then the college level for a year, and I've helped 78 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: out other people. But if you like the way the 79 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: basketball player and football player's brain works is things have 80 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: to kind of make sense right. And I feel like 81 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: when I'm watching the Lions. He has a group of 82 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: plays that he likes based upon personnels and oh, they're 83 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: playing this, we're going to do this, if this, then that, 84 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: which is great, but there's no kind of rhythm to it. 85 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: Whereas the best of the best, the Kyle Shanahan's of 86 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: the world, they have a rhythm and a reason what 87 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: they're getting to and it may not it may be 88 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 2: a build up of Hey, we're running this now, so 89 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: in the second half, we're going to get the same 90 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: look and we're going to have an exposive play and 91 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: it would be open. Whereas the Lions, it's like they're 92 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: just trying to win every play and it doesn't feel 93 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: like that works. So there's a culmination of things that 94 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: happened last night. So here's Jalen Brown asked about AJ 95 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: Brown getting more targets than usual in the game, including 96 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: one in which he quit on the play late. 97 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, just going with the flow of the game and 98 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 5: how it was called and trying to go out there 99 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 5: and extra qut. 100 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 4: So it wasn't like effort to get him football. 101 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: And may be a KP question, KP being his offensive coordinator. 102 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 2: Here's Nick Sirianni about AJ Brown getting more involved. 103 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 6: We're always trying to get Aj involved, always, always, always, always, 104 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 6: and the game play is played differently each and every 105 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 6: week of what happens. So I think I don't think 106 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 6: I've been shy about saying this. The game plan is 107 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 6: always going to start in the passing game with him 108 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 6: and DeVante and in Dallas, and so we're always trying 109 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 6: to do that and get him the football. And that's 110 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,119 Speaker 6: the way play game played out a little bit today. 111 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: Can I just point out Dan that Sirianni did it again? 112 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: Going forward on fourth down with three minutes to go 113 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: in your own territory is just dumb. 114 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that one, It's just dumb. 115 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: Like listen and and I get it. You like you 116 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: go like, oh, you won five games as a coach. Yeah, 117 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: and I know that there's no possibly when your defense 118 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: is completely and utterly dominating the game and it's a 119 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: two score game, all you gotta do is punt the football. 120 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 2: And if they want to score, fine, then they got 121 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: to find a way to get the ball back and 122 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: get to get instead. You know, the Lions could do 123 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: nothing and end up settling for a field goal. Could 124 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: have kicked field goal right away. Yes, you know if 125 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: not for a winning night and then had tons of 126 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: time to get a stop and maybe maybe even you know, 127 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: have given up a couple first downs. They you know, 128 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: they they had plenty of opportunities and it was gifted 129 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: to them by going forward. And it's the second straight 130 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: week he's done it, second straight week and they've won 131 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: both games. It does not make the process correct, right, 132 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: I mean, like, I'm not anti Nick Seriani. I'm not 133 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: sitting here trying to like, you know, if you want 134 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: to find a flall with a coach, you can find one. 135 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, like, there's no reason. There was 136 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: no reason last week, with like two twenty five to 137 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: go for them to throw the ball on second down. None, 138 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: you run the ball, get it to the two minute warning, 139 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: and then every play after that they got to call timeouts, right, 140 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: everybody knows that. And the Packers would have used their 141 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: timeouts on the other side the two minute warning, so again, 142 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: mission would have been accomplished. But the Packers got the 143 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: ball back, had plenty of time. They actually got it 144 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: back a second another time. Right, That's how much time 145 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: he left on it. It's like he wants the game 146 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: to be close, and I know he doesn't. But that's 147 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: how bad those decisions were. 148 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: I felt it was a unifying time in America that 149 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: outside of Eagles and Packers and maybe Bears fans, that 150 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: everybody was so happy that the Lions not only stopped 151 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: the Eagles, it was on a tush push play. Like, 152 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: not only was it a stupid play to even go 153 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: for it in that scenario, but it happened on a 154 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: tush push play where you could say, what are you doing? 155 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: So someone stopped it, and they did it in a 156 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: ridiculously advantageous situation for that team and against the Eagles. 157 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 4: I had no idea. 158 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 3: What he was doing, and then the camera immediately pans 159 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: to him. I mean, we heard the the AJ Brown 160 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: pass was called by Hurts and Brown in Green Bay 161 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: on Monday night. But this was just this was atrocious. 162 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, all of it's bad. It just it doesn't make 163 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: any sense. Like you're it'd be one thing if you're like, well, 164 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: it's like the Colts back when they had Peyton Manning, 165 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: like you know what, let's put the ball in our 166 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: best player's hands and let's let him get a first down. 167 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: The same thing with Tom Brady. And this is not 168 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: to take as it takes a little shot at Jalen Hurts, 169 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: but nobody would say that Jalen hurts. And it's not 170 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: like you haven't Jalen Hurts passed. You're going to touch push, 171 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: which has been highly highly successful. Your defense for the 172 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: second straight week has been absolutely thoroughly and completely physically 173 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: dominant over the opponent. The Lions could not block you 174 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: at all, and you're like gifting them that kind of 175 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: field position when they got to score twice. That makes 176 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: no sense to me at all, no sense. But the 177 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: Eagles do what they They overcome what I think is 178 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: additional chances brought on by an overly aggressive offensive play call. 179 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 2: And oh yeah, by the way, the Lions they got 180 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: stopped five times on fourth down five times, five times. 181 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: Everybody wants their play call or be aggressive until five 182 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: times he doesn't get it on fourth down, and oh yeah, 183 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: by the way, the Eagles were also helped out by 184 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: just an atrocious defensive pass interference. So the Lions kick 185 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: a field goal, have a chance to get a stop, 186 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 2: then on third down, what would have if it play 187 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: had just gone incomplete, they would have gotten the ball 188 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 2: back with time to come down score a touchdown. Probably 189 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: wouldn't have done it because their offensive line could not 190 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 2: block the Lions. But think a listener Chris Collinsworth and 191 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: his reaction to the penalty call. Oh, come on, come on, 192 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: that is terrible. 193 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 6: That is an absolutely terrible call that it's going to 194 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 6: decide his football game. 195 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: If anything, it's an offensive push. Yeah, it wasn't an 196 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: offensive push on aj Brown. It wasn't a defensive passer 197 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: fits on Rokison. It was a terrible call. I don't 198 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: know if it didn't decide the game, but it sealed 199 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 2: the game, right, It didn't decide the game. It sealed 200 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: the game. The Eagles were the better football team. They 201 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: kicked the Lions ass. Forget about the final score. But 202 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: that was a terrible call to end that game. Awful. 203 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 7: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 204 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 7: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 205 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio. 206 00:11:55,160 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: App Stug Gottlieb Show. You're listen to Fox Sports Radio. 207 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: So Shore Sanders got to play. It wasn't very good. 208 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: It wasn't very good. Here's Shore Sanders talking about his 209 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: first naps in the NFL game. 210 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 5: First and foremost I want to thank God from giving 211 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 5: me the opportunity to get out there. That's all you 212 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 5: could ask for, honestly, the chance to get out there, 213 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 5: get your feet wet, to experience how it feels, you know, 214 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 5: to even be out there with the team, with the 215 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 5: first group, with everybody. So I'm truly was exciting. It 216 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 5: was a rough day overall, but the thing that I 217 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 5: was excited about is just being able to get out there. 218 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 5: You know, it's the first time I got hit, like 219 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 5: since since my last game at Colorado. So just having 220 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 5: that feeling back, you know, it's good. 221 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: Yep, no, I get it. It is good. It's definitely good. 222 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: He was four of sixteen through a bad pick, looked overwhelmed. 223 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: Here's Rex Ryan on ESPN earlier today commenting on Shador 224 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: and what he was doing after the game. 225 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 8: He's got to get over himself too, you like, he's 226 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 8: there by himself on the bench at the end of 227 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 8: the game. I've never I've seen it in the seventh 228 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 8: game of World Series. When you lose a game or whatever. 229 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 8: This is a game, is a pillow fight game. Nobody cares. 230 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 5: Who cares? 231 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 7: Sit back? 232 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 8: Yeah? 233 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 7: Did he care? 234 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 8: Or you trying to make it a show. Make it 235 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 8: about yourself. You've got a guy over there that, by 236 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 8: the way, is a two time MVP. Right there, Lamar Jackson. 237 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 8: He was looking for you. He was looking for you 238 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 8: right there. 239 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 7: Why didn't share a moment with him? 240 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 8: All right? All right, share a moment with Lamar. He 241 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 8: looking all over for you. They get in there with 242 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 8: your teammates. These are your teammates, all right, These are 243 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 8: your teammates, And talk about I'm not comfortable losing. You 244 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 8: think anybody in that locker room is they better not be? 245 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't know, Like, look, we maybe 246 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: I compartmentalized things better than other people. Okay, I didn't 247 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: like to watch ACT. I definitely knew, you know why 248 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: he didn't get drafted. I didn't think it was a 249 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: crime against humanity that he fell in the draft or 250 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: the whole act or trying to determine and many things 251 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: he said. But what you can't do, or I don't 252 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: think you can do, is factor in those things, even 253 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: in the preseason or whatever. You know, the the miming answers, 254 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: and just let's just take yesterday. Okay, he was bad. 255 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: It was awful. It looked it was kind of sad 256 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: to watch, Okay, but after the game in which you 257 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: play your first NFL game and you don't play well, 258 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: and you're just sitting there and it happens really, really fast. 259 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure he's sitting there with his helmet in his hand. 260 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: He's listening, or he's got his helmet on, he's listened 261 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: all to play calls. Honestly, you're in and you're like, 262 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: I've waited my whole life, and then you get in 263 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: there and you're terrible and your team loses again. It 264 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: comes at you really fast and you need it a minute. 265 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: I'm not holding that against him, nor will I sit 266 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: here and say definably, this is who he is as 267 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: an NFL quarterback. I've never been so infatuated with Shador 268 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: Sanders that I wanted to claim racism or the things 269 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: that everyone's against him or whatever. What I can tell 270 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: you is, when you're a coach of somebody at his age, 271 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: and I coach people at his age, I have a 272 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: player who right now, if you saw him play like 273 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: he is not a very good basketball player, why would 274 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: you have recrured him, sign him? And yet everybody wanted him, 275 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: me especially and my old staff were like he didn't 276 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: play this way. It's just confidence can be shattered and 277 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: hard to rebuild. And that process of trying to win 278 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: a game while the player you're playing is trying to 279 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: regain his confidence or gain his footing, it can be 280 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: a very very difficult process. So this may surprise you, 281 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna tell you it's not the end of 282 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: the world or the end. I've never been a Shador 283 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: is the greatest. He's got to be out there. He's 284 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: got his laws, he holds them all too long. He 285 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: doesn't have a super strong arm. He is really accurate. 286 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: He's he's mobile ish, but he's People think because he's 287 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: Dion's son that he's that type of athlete. He's not. 288 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: But he does have clever mobility in the pocket. And 289 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: he was awful. He was bad, wasn't good. But he'll 290 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: get more opportunities and either he gets better and he'll 291 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: get more or he plays this way and we won't 292 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: see him much longer in the NFL. Is that two 293 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 2: matter of fact, Dan Byer, should I bring in the 294 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: baggage of his actions and people acting like he should 295 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: have been the number one overall pick and whatever? And 296 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: this is the in your face, he stinks, Like I thought, 297 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 2: he played poorly, but again, we've seen lots of quarterbacks 298 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 2: come in cold, first start and not play well. I'm 299 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: not gonna be crazy over wreck, but I could be wrong, 300 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: and it could not go in line with how much 301 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: we've talked about him previously. 302 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that that's fair. 303 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 3: I don't know how you could expect anything from him, 304 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: to be honest, considering the lack of practice snaps that 305 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 3: he got with the first team. I don't know how 306 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: anybody succeeds in that situation. Maybe a fifteen year veteran 307 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 3: can come in and it's no problem, but for someone 308 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 3: who's a rookie in the National Football League, there's no 309 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 3: way that they could succeed. He had what four completions. 310 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 3: One of the incompletions, if I mean, if it's just 311 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 3: a little bit more on target, they maybe score a 312 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 3: touchdown and tie the game. So I would take the 313 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: positives from that throw. But to answer your your question, 314 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 3: I think you're doing the right thing because I didn't 315 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 3: realize it until it was pointed out that he didn't 316 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 3: shake hands and didn't go off in talk with Lamar Jackson. 317 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: And I do think that that stuff is weird. So 318 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: you're doing a much better job of separating what you 319 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 3: think than what I am. 320 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: I'll just again, and maybe I'm personalizing too much. And 321 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: I understand if people think it's not the same or 322 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: you don't care. Whatever. Thursday night, we go to play 323 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: Saint Thomas. I'm friends with Johnny Tower. He's the coach. 324 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: He's a great guy. He's kind of a mentoring you know. 325 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: I think he's got a doctorate whatever. He's brilliant dude. 326 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: So we play poorly. I have a player suffer a 327 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: gruesome injury and after the game, like I just I want, 328 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: I have to go to the hospital. And two, I'm 329 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: just trying to figure out my team and my own job. 330 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: And so even sent me a text checking in on 331 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: the kid that was hurt, and I was a little 332 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 2: short with him for talk with him yesterday, and again 333 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: I know that's not how he normally would be, but 334 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: the context of the situation which we played poorly, I 335 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: was upset, and I was trying to kind of get 336 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: my balance and then trying to figure out what I 337 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: need to do protocol with this kid, how to manage 338 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: my own emotions with that deal. Right, So the point 339 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: is maybe I I've built in more empathy than I should, 340 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 2: But I do know that guys. I have a player's 341 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: names justin Allen. We'll talk about the sum in the pod. 342 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: He was a star in Division three, star twenty six 343 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: points a game, Carnegie Mellon. So we play against Bradley 344 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: in an exhibition and Dan he was just so nervous, 345 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: so nervous. And then we played Kansas, and like, you know, 346 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 2: you got to think to yourself, like you've been playing 347 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: at a slightly above average When I'm saying above average, 348 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the actual basketball team, not the school, 349 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: slightly above average Division III school, and now you're playing 350 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: at Kansas, right, And so for me, like I walk 351 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: in and you know, like I think my team and 352 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 2: my players and how I coach, Like I've been through 353 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: all this stuff as a player and a broadcaster, so 354 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: it doesn't overwhelm me. So I don't I struggle to 355 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 2: relate to it. But the kid was shook up, Like 356 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: they're shook because they've been waiting their whole lives. They 357 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: get an opportunity and then they think they failed and 358 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: they let the world down, and it literally takes them 359 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: like two three weeks to get their confidence back, and 360 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: sometimes they don't ever get it back. And so for Shador, 361 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: my thing is when you've been the guy playing for 362 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: your memory, played for his dad his whole life, and 363 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, now he's had to battle 364 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: and yet not getting first team reps whatever, and he's 365 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 2: not helping the situation. I'm not denying that, But you 366 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 2: go to that, to being kind of thrust into a 367 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: game first time ever and then you don't play. Well, 368 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: it's a shot at your ego, there's no question about it. 369 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 3: And I am I'm much higher on how he did play, 370 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: considering the circumstances. Like I know, four of sixteen is 371 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 3: not great. Obviously, JJ McCarthy was one hopping passes to 372 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: receivers yesterday and we're still not talking about. 373 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 4: Him as much. 374 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 3: Sure, so like there's I think that for the couple 375 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 3: of throws that I saw Shador make that I thought 376 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 3: were really good, I was impressed. But remember last year, 377 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 3: the year before, he was there to be at the 378 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 3: handshake with Dion and j Norvell against Colorado State. Yeah, 379 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: he was sure to be at that handshake. 380 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: No question. Yeah, suddenly disappears. I get it. I get 381 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: it you could. 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It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox 399 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. It's a Monday that means we get to 400 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: catch up with former GM of the Chargers for eleven 401 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: years and the Raiders last year. He's a friend of Doug, 402 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: a friend of the program. He's Tom Tlasco. He joins 403 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: us on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. 404 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: Let's start off with the most discussed fifth round pick, 405 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: potentially fourth string quarterback in the history of the universe. Obviously, 406 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: the stats look bad, but what were your thoughts as 407 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: a GM watching Shadorg Sanders and villain duty yesterday. 408 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm sure there'll be no irrational rants or analysis 409 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 9: of Sugar Sanders' performance today, but just for contact, the 410 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 9: first thing I thought of was justin Herbert's first appearance 411 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 9: with his rookie year, because if you remember, and I'm 412 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 9: sure you do, like he didn't know until thirty seconds 413 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 9: before kickoff he was going to be playing in that game, 414 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 9: and this is week two of the season. He had 415 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 9: taken probably no first team reps Week one or two. 416 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 9: He maybe took a couple in training camp, but not 417 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 9: a lot. And this was during COVID, so there are 418 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 9: no preseason games, so his teammates and coaches literally had 419 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 9: never seen him play live until at first drive against 420 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 9: the Chiefs. So it's not unusual for a backup quarterback 421 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 9: not to have a lot of work during the week. 422 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 9: That's normal and I mean it shows. I mean he 423 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 9: got in the game and Baltimore has an excellent defense, 424 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 9: they're smart, they brought a lot of pressure against them, 425 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 9: and he did what he could. I think this is 426 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 9: going to work out for Cleveland because now he'll get 427 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 9: a full week of practice and they're gonna get a 428 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 9: glimpse of what maybe he can do, so they can 429 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 9: kind of see what they have for the future. But realistically, 430 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 9: it doesn't matter at quarterback for Cleveland, whether it's Flacco, 431 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 9: whether it's still in Gabriel, whether it's Trador, whether it's 432 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 9: the legendary Bernie Kosar. Their offense just doesn't have the 433 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 9: infrastructure right now on the offensive line at the still 434 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 9: positions to be competitive yet so they will in the future. 435 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 9: They have a lot of AMMO. They had an awesome 436 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 9: draft last year, but right now there just isn't enough 437 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 9: on offense around no matter who the quarterback is right 438 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 9: now to be productive. 439 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 2: I get that completely. Of course, there's no room for 440 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: rational analysis of this, but in our most rational sense, 441 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 2: right you have to watch for traits or things that 442 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 2: you can grow on or if the he just doesn't 443 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 2: have it right granted, limited sample size, no worktime, with 444 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: the first group and the first group isn't that good. 445 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 2: But I mean, obviously you're gonna get and a deeper look. 446 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: But with half a game in what do you think. 447 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 9: He showed a couple of throws which you saw in 448 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 9: college that piques your interests, Like, he can stand in 449 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 9: the pocket, you can stand tall, he can deliver, he's 450 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 9: got a strong arm. He saw that on the one 451 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 9: deep dig to Fan and it was a great throw. 452 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 9: But you also saw the same thing he saw on 453 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 9: college that he's going to have to work out of 454 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 9: is be holding out of the football in the pocket. 455 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 9: They're trying to back out the backside of the pocket, 456 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 9: which is almost impossible for any quarterback to do unless 457 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 9: you're Mahomes. Now, there were some stats yesterday that he 458 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 9: really he could not step up because there's so much 459 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 9: pressure coming in the middle. But he does have that 460 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 9: that trait that has to improve as far as being 461 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 9: able to in a normal pocket, be able to step 462 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 9: up against the pressure and not bail out the back end. 463 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 9: But that's going to take some time. It takes practice, 464 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 9: it takes development. But you did see some throw yesterday 465 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 9: that you know there's a reason why he was a 466 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 9: highly productive college quarterback, so you have to keep building 467 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 9: on that. 468 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: Okay, let's uh, let's discuss the Lions and their offense. 469 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 2: It's just a disaster last night against the Eagles. It's 470 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: interesting though, because here in Green Bay, you know, the 471 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: entire week is Matt Laflour is so conservative. What is 472 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: Matt Lafloor doing. You gotta let Jordan Love throw the football, 473 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 2: and of course he does against the Giants and look straat, 474 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: But then you see that same Eagles defense when the 475 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 2: Lions try and throw it, and you know you got 476 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 2: no time at all for Jared Goff none. So again, 477 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 2: my thing is how much of this last two weeks 478 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: is really the Eagles defense as much as the offenses 479 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: that they're going against. 480 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 9: That's a great point, Doug. I was just looking at 481 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 9: the Eagles defense. They did not start off the year well, 482 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 9: but they've kind of progressed and improved. And every year 483 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 9: is a different year, so you got to try and 484 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 9: figure out what are we this year? And you saw 485 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 9: the last two weeks that's what they are. I mean, 486 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 9: their their defensive front is very very difficult to play against, 487 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 9: and and it and it helps when you play the 488 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 9: Lions right now, the Lions. This is not the same 489 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 9: offensive line the Lions had last year, so their interior, 490 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 9: two guards and center are either new players or a 491 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 9: player that's been moved. And it showed up last night. 492 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 9: The Philly front just dominated them, and it just felt like, 493 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 9: from a Detroit offense point of view, and this is 494 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 9: very subjective, it just felt like they were calling plays 495 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 9: but not really running an offense. If that makes any offense. 496 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 2: Just not No, there's there's a there's a there's a 497 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 2: rhythm to it. There's a there's a rhythm to it. Yeah, 498 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,239 Speaker 2: so I'll give you, let me give let me give 499 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 2: you the basketball. I completely see it. Honestly, most times 500 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 2: I would say, ah, but I paid attention to it 501 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 2: because you know, it's one of the things that that 502 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: I've run into as a coach, which is, you know 503 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: i've I did last year, I did everything with the offense, 504 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 2: you know, and called all the plays. This year, I 505 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 2: have a really really accomplished coach helping me with the offense. 506 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 2: But I have there's a rhythm to how I believe 507 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 2: it should should play out. You know, we run a 508 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: bunch of our sets in the first half and I'm 509 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: looking for how they're guarding it, so we have different 510 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 2: counters for when we need a bucket in the second half. 511 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 2: But again it's it's the best of the best play callers. 512 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: They have a there's a rhythm and a feeling to it, 513 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: and they know how to get everybody involved and how 514 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: to how did you know, go north, go go north 515 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 2: south for a bunch of the game, only like you 516 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: know east west. I feel like that's that's where Dan Campbell, 517 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: that's where it's missing. Where there's nothing wrong with the 518 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: plays that he's calling, but the execution and timing and 519 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 2: overall rhythm of it is very off. 520 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 9: I see the exact same thing. And we haven't seen 521 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 9: golf play like that in years, and certainly hasn't played 522 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 9: like that with the Lions, where he just I mean, 523 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 9: he couldn't get the ball out. He's dirting the ball. 524 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 9: You take the weather out of it, but there was 525 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 9: just no rhythm or feel to it. And there's too 526 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 9: much talent at the skilled position is there to play 527 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 9: like that. So obviously they made the offensive coordinator change. 528 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 9: I thought they were doing okay early in the year. 529 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 9: I thought it would take some time. I went a 530 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 9: new coordinator to really get the right identity. It doesn't 531 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 9: happen overnight. But I also trust Dan Campbell because he's 532 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 9: shown that he has a good pulse of their football team. 533 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 9: But it's just it didn't look right last night. I 534 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 9: think the offensive line had something to do with that, 535 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 9: and the Eagles had a lot to do with that, 536 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 9: but there was just no fueler rhythm to the offense. 537 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: None whatsoever. Doug Gottliebschel, you're on Fox Sports Radio. Tom 538 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: Telesco is our guest. Of course, he's a former Jim 539 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: manager of both the Chargers and the Raiders. Okay, what 540 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 2: happened to Sam Donald? 541 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 9: Sam Donald ran into a big time defense yesterday, and 542 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 9: actually both defenses were outstanding. But that was probably probably 543 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 9: the biggest thing that I saw yesterday as far as 544 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 9: how one team is going to play another. So the 545 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 9: Seahawks played a lot this year with multiple tight ends, 546 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 9: and on early down they throwing the ball a lot 547 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 9: out of those multiple tight ends sets. So Chris Julio 548 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 9: was a defensive coordinator for the Rams and doesn't alt 549 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 9: standing job. They played a lot of nickel and a 550 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 9: lot of dime in early downs, which is typically what 551 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 9: you wouldn't want to do. You don't want to get 552 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 9: in that big versus little where they're big, you're little, 553 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 9: and if they run the ball, you're in a disadvantage. 554 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 9: But they went heavy nickel, heavy dime. They played a 555 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 9: lot of safeties rather than extra corners, and it really 556 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 9: helped kind of shut down the passing game and shut 557 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 9: with didn't shut down these sposive plays, it really limited it. 558 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 9: I just thought it was a great game plan. And Sam, 559 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 9: you know, he's he's doing out standing job this year 560 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 9: with exposive plays with big throws, but he always has 561 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 9: an achilles heel against some pressure that he'll still take 562 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 9: chances versus pressure, and he throws picks, and he saw 563 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 9: that Yesterday's not enough to worry about. These were two 564 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 9: of the best teams in the league play yesterday in 565 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 9: two outstanding defenses. But I just thought Chris shul that 566 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 9: had a great game plan to play against the Seahawks, 567 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 9: and well, probably if the other team starts to try 568 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 9: and copy that, and now you know, see I don't 569 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 9: have to encounter. But I thought that was a really 570 00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 9: interesting way how they played the Seahawks. 571 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: Stugg Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Trader. That's the 572 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: voice of Tom to LESCo, long time UH general manager 573 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: in the National Football League. It was nineteen All the 574 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: Chiefs have the ball and you're like, man, how many 575 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: times have I seen this before? Pat Mahome is going 576 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: to win this game. Turns out it's the Broncos who 577 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: end up getting win. What did you see in the 578 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: Broncos late win over their AFC West rival. 579 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 9: Well, like you said, I mean, it's a close game, 580 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 9: so I wouldn't you know, I'm not ready to put 581 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 9: Kandas City in the coffee yet it was, you know, 582 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,959 Speaker 9: tight throughout, and I thought Kansas City's defense, I mean 583 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 9: they hung in there, really held Denver to field goals, 584 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 9: not touchdown. They just didn't get enough stops. But Denver's 585 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 9: defense is one of the best in the league. Their front, 586 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 9: the defensive front, is one of the best in the league. 587 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 9: And unfortunately for the Chiefs on the other side, their 588 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 9: weakness is the offensive lineup, pass protection and certainly on 589 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 9: the edges. So that was just that was a match 590 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 9: really all day for the Broncos paths rushers, and that 591 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 9: showed up again in the game. But again, it's tight, 592 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 9: it's close. Chiefs won a lot all these games or 593 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 9: majority of them last year. This year not quite the same. 594 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 9: And the Broncos have a great formula right now. They 595 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 9: have Broncos that won the best offensive lines in the league. 596 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 9: They had a great defensive line and you can play 597 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 9: well in the trenches on both sides. That that kind 598 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 9: of leads to consistency, and that's what we're seeing if 599 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 9: the record shows that. As far as how they're playing 600 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 9: and bow next day. The Broncos relied on him yesterday, 601 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 9: especially in the second half, and he came through. But 602 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 9: to me, it was really about O line D line 603 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 9: yesterday and the Broncos just had more upfront against the 604 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 9: Chiefs offensive line. 605 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I I I tend to tend to agree 606 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: with you. What do you think happens with Kyler Murray? 607 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 4: Right? 608 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: Like, Jacob shut through for a million yards yesterday, but 609 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: really ineffective in comparison, and you know, he had the 610 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: two picks and they had they had another fumble as well. 611 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: But the fact that the Cardinals have said, you know 612 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 2: that even if healthy, he wouldn't be the starter. What 613 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: happens with the Kyler Murray? 614 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 9: Well, if it's not Kyler, then who and I know 615 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 9: the GM and head coach weren't there when Kyler was drafted. 616 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 9: But I love Jacoby Brissette, but I love him in 617 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 9: a role. And you and I can both sit here 618 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 9: and we know that he's an excellent backup. But if 619 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 9: it's not Kyler Murray, okay, who And are you going 620 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 9: to be drafting high? I have to draft a quarterback 621 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 9: this year? Possibly not, And even if you are, there 622 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 9: aren't that many this year. Okay, So you've got the 623 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 9: draft that's going to be light. And then in free agency, 624 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 9: very few starters, you know, legit starters come out in 625 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 9: free agencies, so they're gonna have to make a decision there. 626 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 9: I think Kyler still has plenty of talent, and it's 627 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 9: again it's a new regime, but I'm just not ready 628 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 9: to give up on him yet. He's too athletic, he's 629 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 9: got a strong arm. We can make a lot of 630 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 9: plays outside the pockets, hard to prepare for. They've gradually 631 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 9: upgrade the talent on that team. But again, like, if 632 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 9: you want to move on from him, where are you 633 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 9: going to go? And right now, there aren't a lot 634 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 9: of places to go. 635 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 2: No. No, Bryce Young obviously struggled last year, lost his 636 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: job for a little bit, got it back statistically yesterday 637 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 2: his best day as a pro four to forty eight, 638 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 2: three touchdownstown receptions. Where are you on Bryce Young long 639 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 2: term with the Panthers. 640 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 9: I'm just not sure yet. I know you put up 641 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 9: a great amount of yards yesterday. I had to hit 642 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 9: a very nice game, you know against the Falcons defense. 643 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 9: That's been up and down. But two weeks ago the 644 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 9: Panthers got to win against the Packers and you know, 645 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 9: Bryce through fo one hundred yards and less than fifty 646 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 9: percent completion, So it's been a little bit up and down. 647 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 9: I think Dave kanalas quietly has done more with less 648 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 9: any coaching the NFL this year. He's do an amazing 649 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 9: job with the whole team. And defensively, j Everee has 650 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 9: done a great job. I mean, they had one of 651 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 9: the worst defenses in the league last year, and I 652 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 9: didn't think they did a lot to improved first l 653 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 9: wise over the over the off season, and they're balling 654 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 9: out right now. So with with I just don't know 655 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 9: at the quarterback spot with Bryce Young, is he the 656 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 9: guy now? If he has enough talent around him, which 657 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 9: they've gotten better, maybe he's got a chance and he 658 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 9: shows something yesterday. But just with the with the size, 659 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 9: it just it shows up a lot. You know how 660 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 9: he plays in the pocket. Now, he's got very quick guys. 661 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 9: You can get the ball out quickly. But it's it's 662 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 9: hard playing in his size for a long over the 663 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 9: long haul in this league. So we'll see. It's like 664 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 9: yesterday was great and he needs to keep coming on 665 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 9: and the talent is gradually getting better with the Panthers. 666 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 9: But you know, we shall see. But you know this 667 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 9: can't be a week to week up and down. And 668 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 9: you look at the whole body work. The whole body 669 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 9: works to me, so it needs to keep coming along 670 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 9: with him. 671 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: Awesome stuff, Tom, Thanks so much for joining us. Look 672 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 2: forward to our weekly weekly chat. Appreciate being our guest 673 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 674 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks for having me on. 675 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 4: Doug. 676 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 7: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 677 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 7: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 678 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: Be church check out our new brand new YouTube channel. 679 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 2: Just search Doug Gotlip Show on YouTube again This Doug 680 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 2: Gotleep Show. Hit the subscribe button, don't just stop there, 681 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 2: hit the thumbs up icon. Coming away, Let me know 682 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 2: if you agree with my takes, hate the takes, don't care. 683 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 2: Just check out the brand new channel on YouTube again. 684 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 2: Just search Doug Gottlieb Show and subscribe. Let's get to 685 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 2: a game. 686 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 7: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 687 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 4: All right, Doug, the game today. 688 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 7: Is big deal, little deal, no deal? 689 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 3: Big deal, little deal or no deal. That the Chiefs 690 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 3: wouldn't be in the playoffs if they started today, that's. 691 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 2: A big deal. A gigantic deal. Team that has dominated 692 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 2: the AFC over the last seven or eight years. That's 693 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 2: a very very very very big deal. And their schedule 694 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 2: is backloaded too, so it's not like it gets easier. 695 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 3: They got the Colts coming to town this Sunday, off 696 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 3: of a bye for Indianapolis, playing in Kansas City. Doug, 697 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 3: big deal, little deal or no deal. That's in a 698 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 3: loss to the forty nine ers. Cardinals quarterback Jacoby Brissett 699 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 3: set an NFL record for completions with forty seven in 700 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 3: that loss to the Niners. 701 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 2: A big deal from this standpoint. You remember his first 702 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 2: start was with the Patriots when Brady was suspended, and 703 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 2: they ran like option with him. In other words, you 704 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: went from a guy that Bill Belizer is like, let's 705 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 2: him throw the ball as little as possible to completing 706 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 2: forty seven passes. I take the big deal. It's historic. 707 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and no Marvin Earrison Junior yesterday, Trey McBride, Michael Wilson, 708 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 3: big games and obviously playing in place of the injured 709 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. Big deal, little dealer, No deal, Doug that 710 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 3: Jamis Winston almost led the Giants to a victory over 711 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 3: the Packers. 712 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: It's a big deal because I think of the decisions 713 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 2: that now fire Brian Dable made that I call in question, 714 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 2: why did you start Russell Wilson to start the year. 715 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 2: Why'd you put Russell Willis to the name when Jackson 716 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 2: Dark got hurt? We thought Jamis Quinson would be the 717 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: better option anyway, although Jamis did do some Jamis things 718 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 2: like an interception late. 719 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 4: Yes, but both teams looked good in doing so. 720 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 3: Giant's kind of wearing their throwback uniforms, Packers with. 721 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 2: A great uniform night that. I was waiting for Mark 722 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 2: Varr to come run now. 723 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 4: And that's game time. 724 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 7: Game, This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 725 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 2: Okay, coming up next to the Doug Gottlieb Show. What'd 726 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 2: you love from the weekend? What'd you hate from the weekend? Right, 727 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 2: pretty simple. We'll go around the room share with you 728 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 2: our thoughts, love and hate on The Doug Gottlieb Show. 729 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 2: Is next here on Fox Sports Radio.