WEBVTT - I'm a Comedian Not an Investigator!

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<v Speaker 1>Crime. Hello Social sleuths, everyone, Welcome back to the Real

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<v Speaker 1>Time Crime. I'm your host Leo Lamar, and today we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be discussing a local l a crime the Lane

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<v Speaker 1>Maxwell again Lawrence smith Fields, and we'll probably get to

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<v Speaker 1>a voicemail maybe this time we promised you and it

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<v Speaker 1>just never happened. But we will get to it. But

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<v Speaker 1>first a quick announcement and possibly a crime. My regular

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<v Speaker 1>co host Teddy Mellencamp, who you know and love, is

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<v Speaker 1>on vacation and didn't take us Dmitri. How do we

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<v Speaker 1>feel about this? I'd like to say that I'm surprised,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not. This is yeahs Teddy. Yeah. Ever since

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<v Speaker 1>you lost that Fannie pack, I feel like she's become

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<v Speaker 1>someone else and who knows, maybe her vacation is back

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<v Speaker 1>there looking for it because she seemed oddly attached to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But wow, she's getting too close to the case. Ye

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<v Speaker 1>she moving back to Asben to track down her Fannie back.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy? Okay, well, Teddy, we miss you, but lucky

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<v Speaker 1>for us, we have a guest host today who's a

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<v Speaker 1>dear friend of mine and absolutely hilarious human being. You

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<v Speaker 1>may know him from his one hour Comedy Central special

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<v Speaker 1>Don't Be Yourself, a Comedy Central half hour special from

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<v Speaker 1>Conan six times and probably more than that by now.

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<v Speaker 1>The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon, Late Show with Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>Colbert showtimes Live at south By Southwest. Can you hear that?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dying slowly? Every credit inside a shomer. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've forgotten how to read at this point. Um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, Mark Norman. Mark, welcome to Real Time Crime.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm exhausted after reading just one third of your credits. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>good to be here, Thanks for having me, and uh boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you were my mom. She doesn't know any

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<v Speaker 1>of those credits, so that's nice to hear in great eyebrows. Wow, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>I am actually your mom. Lucky you and I have

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<v Speaker 1>photos of you clipped out and put on my refrigerator.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a crime? No? No, it's very nice. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you remind you to not eat? Yeah, this is my intervention.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I have been on the bounce recently. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just can we set up this scenario? Just what people

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<v Speaker 1>can't see right now? Ye? Sunglasses on? He's clearly in

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<v Speaker 1>a hotel room. I assume otherwise he has modeled his

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<v Speaker 1>home after a hotel sheets are in disarrayed behind him,

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<v Speaker 1>like something has gone on. It's it's I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's relatively morning time and he's got sunglasses on,

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<v Speaker 1>so what's up. It looks like he just committed a crime,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're you're you're at a ramada in looking at

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<v Speaker 1>a nineties cube television wondering where it all went wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>The only crime is I stole a woman's heart. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just just one woman from the look of that

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<v Speaker 1>hotel room, one woman and two men. But yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the road, folks. You know, I'm on the road

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<v Speaker 1>arm in Syracuse. It's twelve degrees outside. I've already masturbated

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<v Speaker 1>six times, so it's nice to be on a zoom. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to eight this morning right before this. Well

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<v Speaker 1>send me the video, I will um. I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 1>you knew I filmed it. That's another crime that Mark

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<v Speaker 1>actually has a camera in my apartment somewhere. I assume

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<v Speaker 1>you're on only fans. Every every lady, I know it

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<v Speaker 1>is on only fans. They're cleaning up. I'm not. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually on only feet. Turned out I didn't have any fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are huge. Yeah, I got quite a huff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>wait till you see this big toe. Um, oh boy,

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<v Speaker 1>it could take out a tiny village. So Mark, they're

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<v Speaker 1>asking how we know each other. I got pieced it together,

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<v Speaker 1>but go ahead. I just loved Marge hotel room. Yes here, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it was actually the maid It's tip with the candlestick

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<v Speaker 1>in the library on the way to put it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we met what six years ago? Yeah? Years ago on

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<v Speaker 1>the comedy scene, and everybody just kind of intermingles. It

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<v Speaker 1>happens wor at the story the improv I'll show who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was something way less glamorous. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think back into my comedy spank Bank, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think we were in the East Village. That's the name

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<v Speaker 1>of Louie's new album. By the way. Yeah, oh I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you met Louis Anderson. Alright, oh no, geez, alright, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>p you know you mean louise E K Yeah, Bank,

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<v Speaker 1>that was right there. Um, yeah, you're right, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>my bad. I yeah, I think we met at a show.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna share this

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<v Speaker 1>and if you hate me after take a number, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So We were at a very old show in I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it was like seventh and St. Seventh and

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<v Speaker 1>Avenue A or first Niagara. Yes, it was at Niagara.

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<v Speaker 1>And the entire audience didn't speak English. Yeah, that's kind.

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<v Speaker 1>And you were running your set that you were doing

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<v Speaker 1>the next night for like Fallon or Colbert or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and and we everyone was bombing yeah, because they literally

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<v Speaker 1>didn't understand. And then you got to Colbert fall In

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<v Speaker 1>the next night and turns out those foreign tourists for

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<v Speaker 1>the audience exactly. I remember seeing you, remember thinking this

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<v Speaker 1>is the first time I've seen an attractive Jew. I

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<v Speaker 1>was blown away. Thank you so much, no kidding? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>um no, Actually, Mark, you're not Jewish. That's the crime.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish all my heroes are. So let's get to

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of this. So I'm sure people want to

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<v Speaker 1>know by now, with the tension that's in the air,

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<v Speaker 1>did you guys ever hook up O never by coast?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I know that sounds crazy, but um, if

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<v Speaker 1>you can believe this, Mark respected me. Yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 1>it is rare. I mean, um yeah, anyway, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>was what my guess was that you hadn't because if

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<v Speaker 1>you had, then for you to say, would you come

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<v Speaker 1>on my podcast? I think he would be a little

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<v Speaker 1>more hesitant than sure. So she's a good egg. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a funny lady and I'm I'm down. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>good to see her. Oh, Mark love you. Okay, Wait, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think some of the fans might want

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<v Speaker 1>to know more about you because they're used to just

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<v Speaker 1>me and Teddy rambling on about nothing. So you don't

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<v Speaker 1>look like Teddy. You're not Teddy. Um, You're Mark Mormon,

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<v Speaker 1>a legend, a comedy king. How did you get involved

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<v Speaker 1>in comedy? Did you always want to be a stand

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<v Speaker 1>up comedian? Let's just start from the basics. Uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's boring, old story. Rudderless guy, loser lived

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<v Speaker 1>in a house with five guys in Louisiana. You know

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<v Speaker 1>you lived in a house with hamburgers. Yeah, exactly, And

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<v Speaker 1>uh it was rough. And then I just started doing

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<v Speaker 1>open mics out of just sheer loserdom. I had nothing

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<v Speaker 1>going to want to kill me. Yeah, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>fell in love with it. And I always love comedy,

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<v Speaker 1>but being a comedian was like being an astronaut. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just said kind of moving to New York what

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<v Speaker 1>else is going on? I got nothing to lose, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just became immersed in the comedy scene and that

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<v Speaker 1>was it. I found my colleague. You really put the

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<v Speaker 1>mers in immersed. Yeah, exactly. You are male nurse of

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<v Speaker 1>the profession, like the word for a Fannie Pack Commerci

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<v Speaker 1>love that for you. Um. I also love that you

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<v Speaker 1>compared stand up comedy to being an asteroid. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean same skill set honestly to get into. Very

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<v Speaker 1>hard to be good at, sure, but yeah, I never

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<v Speaker 1>thought I can do it. But you know, you just

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<v Speaker 1>take it one step at a time and you get there.

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<v Speaker 1>And here we are now. I'm an hotel room in

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<v Speaker 1>Syracuse living the dream. That's right. So just to tie

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<v Speaker 1>it into the show, have you ever committed a crime?

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<v Speaker 1>And if so, what was it? Many? Many? I have

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<v Speaker 1>a I'm a kleptomaniac. Actually, I have a shoplifting from

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like a mail went on a rider. Go on,

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, I just get a kick out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even need half of it. I steal like

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<v Speaker 1>a Snickers bar. I'd never steal from someone's home or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that, but corporations and like a seven eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the airport, I'm sticky fingers. Norman don't here. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, you're really good at comedy. Robin hood over here. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>just handing out half eating Snickers bars on the street

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<v Speaker 1>to people. Yeah, there you go. Should we have the

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<v Speaker 1>hotel check your luggage before you leave? No, please don't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's full of towels and shampoos. And I got a

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<v Speaker 1>lamp in there. So yeah, how was the rope was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it nice enough to steal? Yeah? The robe? I

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<v Speaker 1>got a million robes at home. I love the robe.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't especially the airport where they're screwing you

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<v Speaker 1>so hard on like a nineteen dollar sandwich. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta take this wrap. It's really good of the people.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you're gonna say nineteen dollar flight, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, I also flight scary um. And I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to thank one of our sponsors here today. So okay, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever gone to jail a few times? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to visit people or like just conjugal visits, drunk tanks.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you've got to sleep in jail overnight. And

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<v Speaker 1>then one or I got caught peeing at a waffle house.

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<v Speaker 1>In the waffle house and a cop walked in and

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<v Speaker 1>saw me, So I went to jail. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>say peeing in the waffle house, you mean not in

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom. Yeah, exactly. That was so good the pancakes.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you said. But a cop walked in

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<v Speaker 1>and caught me, Like like, that's the only thing that

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<v Speaker 1>could have happened that would have gotten you in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>Not anybody else eating or the people that walked that

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<v Speaker 1>worked at the waffle house. Well, they don't care. Those waiters.

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<v Speaker 1>They could give two ships, you know literally, Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>being in the waffle house. Had to go to jail

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<v Speaker 1>for that one. A lot of peeing in public, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of drunken public stuff like that, d y, too

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<v Speaker 1>much booze. But murderous dismemberment. We're clean. Yeah, no, no murder, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no hurting, no uh physical harm, no murder. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for your time, Mark, But we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to look for a new guest house. Thank you. So

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, one day I'll run over a kid or something,

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<v Speaker 1>but who knows. Yeah, okay, wait, okay, But I love

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of a drunk tank where they just take

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<v Speaker 1>care of you. They're just picking a blanket and give

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<v Speaker 1>you a burrito. It's pretty nice. Yeah, I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of mean to you. They throw you in a

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<v Speaker 1>cell and yell at you. But okay, now you're turning

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<v Speaker 1>me on, Mark watch good Time? Oh boy, okay, Mark?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do you like any true crime cases? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have any true crime cases that are do you

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<v Speaker 1>find crazy or funny or weird? I think they're all

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<v Speaker 1>pretty entertaining. I mean I watched all the Netflix talks,

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<v Speaker 1>the the what is it? The Sunshine Killer? Sunch no,

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<v Speaker 1>oh ship, what's that guy? Golden Gate? Golden Gate, that

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<v Speaker 1>one's great. I love the zodiac. I love the one.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the guy? You mean the documentary is not the

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<v Speaker 1>actual murderers, right, Yeah, but you know they're fascinating, so

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<v Speaker 1>many good ones. Mark, what's your zodiac? I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a virgo. The start acting like one. Oh all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that means. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>that means. Okay, what are you a Doris? Dar you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a Gemini? Oh nice, that's a good Galileo walked

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<v Speaker 1>so that basic women in l A could run. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know anything about that. Yeah. I love

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<v Speaker 1>when people blame stuff on their on their zodiac sign.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm I'm a aquarious, so we uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>know we're allowed to be. So you're like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>right in Dmitri, didn't you post on your Instagram something thing, story,

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<v Speaker 1>something story, something about like the zodiac signs that match

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<v Speaker 1>with every serial killer and most of them were Gemini. Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I actually, actually I didn't post that. I sent it

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<v Speaker 1>to you. Um yeah, I was proud that there were

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<v Speaker 1>no leos on there. Did I just hurt your feelings

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<v Speaker 1>that I forgot a one on one interaction? No, I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted it. I didn't want people know perusing

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<v Speaker 1>my social media going all the way back looking for it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not there. I heard the I heard the whimper

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<v Speaker 1>when you first started that sentence. I was thinking, that's so.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, alright, so get back, all right. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for us to get into some hot topics

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<v Speaker 1>for today. And look, I don't think that these cases

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<v Speaker 1>are like when we talk about Galene Maxwell Mark. I

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<v Speaker 1>just expect you to be you. That's all I'm gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a fan. She doesn't a recruiter. Okay, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take a quick break before we get into hot

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<v Speaker 1>topics and welcome back to real time crime. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get into our hot topics. We're gonna start off first

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<v Speaker 1>with a woman who was stabbed to death while working

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<v Speaker 1>at luxury l a furniture store in a very random

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<v Speaker 1>daytime and attack. Oh my god, this story is so tragic.

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<v Speaker 1>We all heard about this last week. A twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>year old woman was stabbed while working at a high

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<v Speaker 1>end furniture store in Hancock Park. Brianna cup For of

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<v Speaker 1>the Pacific Palisades was killed Thursday by a man who

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<v Speaker 1>was unknown, but we've actually tracked him down. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that in just a second. And he entered the

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<v Speaker 1>store Croft House on North Leabria, stabbed her and she

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<v Speaker 1>was found dead by a customer who reported this to

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<v Speaker 1>the police. The suspect has now been named, and he

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<v Speaker 1>fled through a back door after the attack. Surveillance footage

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<v Speaker 1>obtained by multiple local news outlets showed him calmly walking

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<v Speaker 1>northbound down an alley behind the crime scene. This murder

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<v Speaker 1>is very tragic. She was a graduate of both Brentwood

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<v Speaker 1>High School and the University of Miami, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>she had been working toward a degree in architectural design

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<v Speaker 1>at u c l A. Riley Ray, the co owner

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<v Speaker 1>of the Croft House Furniture store, told the l A

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<v Speaker 1>Times that Kupfer had actually been working at the business

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<v Speaker 1>for just over a year before the attack. She was

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<v Speaker 1>an intelligent, poised, well like woman and saying that she

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<v Speaker 1>was mature beyond her years. So they found an assault

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<v Speaker 1>weapon at the three block of North Obray around one

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<v Speaker 1>pm local time on Thursday, according to the l A

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<v Speaker 1>p D. And the suspect and the victim allegedly were

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<v Speaker 1>not known to each other prior to the attack, so

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<v Speaker 1>this does seem pretty random. And also Um told the

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<v Speaker 1>CBS l A the suspect had entered a chiropractic practice

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<v Speaker 1>literally right before he walked into Croft House and just

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<v Speaker 1>stabbed this woman. Okay, so we know now that thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one year old Seawan Laval's Smith was taken into custody

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<v Speaker 1>in Pasadena on Wednesday, and Pasadena police say Smith was

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<v Speaker 1>spotted by a citizen who recognized him from photos. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>was a bartender Um who recognized him from photos that

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<v Speaker 1>were distributed around, and officers found him on a bus

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<v Speaker 1>bench arrested him and the bartender at this Pasadena restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>recognized him um for using the bathroom. So this guy

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<v Speaker 1>is just going into lots of local businesses. Make people

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<v Speaker 1>use the bathroom when they go in a restaurant, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't the restaurant. Good point. Good point. My first question

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<v Speaker 1>was this guy wearing a mask? I hope. So what's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting is that you said he fled, but as you

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<v Speaker 1>pointed out, he literally did this, walked out the back door,

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<v Speaker 1>casually walked down the alley, and then my understanding is

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<v Speaker 1>he went to a store and returned something like thirty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes later. But to me, we're gonna get to them

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<v Speaker 1>to a second. But also this arrest comes after police

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<v Speaker 1>announced two our reward for any information of his whereabouts suspicious.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, he was considered armed, in dangerous And then

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<v Speaker 1>apparently he had been arrested a dozen times, starting in

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<v Speaker 1>in South Carolina, and he's also arrested for a misdemeanor

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<v Speaker 1>in Covina. I guess he had possession of stolen property

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<v Speaker 1>in which he was cited and later released. And Dmitri,

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<v Speaker 1>you apparently actually have a connection to this story. I do.

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<v Speaker 1>The the friend of mine is the one that owns

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<v Speaker 1>the chiropractic business next door where he had gone in first.

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<v Speaker 1>So apparently he went in there before that happened, and

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<v Speaker 1>he asked the receptionist a few questions, random questions sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like what kind of work they did there? And

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<v Speaker 1>they were actually, um, it was relatively. It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>he seemed confused or this, and that he was asking

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<v Speaker 1>relatively intelligent questions. And then he left. Um, what what

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<v Speaker 1>do you say, relatively? Is the earth flat or round?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have not philosophical no? Um, I forget. He

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<v Speaker 1>actually asked if they do a certain sort of chiropractic

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<v Speaker 1>work or certain orthopedic work there. Okay, So so an

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<v Speaker 1>intelligent question. That's he impertinent to the business, not something random, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so my understand my thinking here is that he

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<v Speaker 1>went in there, um, and luckily he heard my friend

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<v Speaker 1>who owns the business in the back, like I guess

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<v Speaker 1>she made some noise or called out or something, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he ended up leaving, if you were to think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, because the next next door then he went

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<v Speaker 1>next door. I don't know if he was waiting to

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<v Speaker 1>go in there to to to kill um in the

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<v Speaker 1>furniture store for a reason, or if he was just

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<v Speaker 1>looking for someone that was alone, so he didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>steal anything, right, So it's just like randomly went into

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<v Speaker 1>a store just to kill someone. Yeah, and so my

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<v Speaker 1>my thinking is it very well could have and they

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<v Speaker 1>were very shaken obviously next door at the office, because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, who knows if if he thought that receptionist

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<v Speaker 1>was there a loan, it very well could have been there.

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<v Speaker 1>Um doesn't crazy, you know. Obviously it's sad either way.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the thing that's so shocking is that it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like there's just no motive at all. Also, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say this, I am disturbed by this case, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>by the number of men who sent me this case

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<v Speaker 1>thinking I'd be interested in it because she was hot. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about sending it to you. No, but it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>If the woman is attractive, the story gets elevated a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a weird kind of picking and choosing

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<v Speaker 1>we do. If she was like an overweight lady with

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<v Speaker 1>an eyepatch, we'd go, what a shame, and that we

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<v Speaker 1>move on. But if she's hot, it gets a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more pressed. Well, I think that's what everyone was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about with the Gappy Potito case. Is that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people were alarmed that the only they felt like

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<v Speaker 1>the only reason it got so much attention was that

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<v Speaker 1>she was a beautiful blonde woman, right right, Yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So now that the suspect been caught, where do we

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<v Speaker 1>think this goes? M M this this? You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>I think that maybe this is like a mental illness situation,

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<v Speaker 1>mental illness like with great responsibility, with great power comes

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<v Speaker 1>the great responsibility, like either you become a comedian with it,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, I mean, listen, if if what you

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<v Speaker 1>were saying, mark the chance of him rehabbing or rehabilitating

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<v Speaker 1>when you do something like that in that cold of

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<v Speaker 1>blood and it does literally we have camera footage that

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't even FaZe him. Yeah, there was no remorse,

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<v Speaker 1>There was no oh my god, what have I done?

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<v Speaker 1>There was no I know, I see that as a

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<v Speaker 1>different type that than someone that could possibly be rehabilitated.

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<v Speaker 1>Dmitri are sure they have the right person. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't been there, but I feel I mean, they're pretty,

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<v Speaker 1>they seem pretty confident, and it seems to match. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is obviously again super devastating. So sorry

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<v Speaker 1>to her friends and family. This is absolutely tragic and Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy should be behind bars for life. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into glade. Max Well, I honestly can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to stop talking about her. But our faive just Lane, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Galane. I'm gonna say jis Lane because I

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<v Speaker 1>can't not thank you. So she's gonna end her fight

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<v Speaker 1>to keep eight John Doe secret. The court is going

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<v Speaker 1>to decide whether the name should be unsealed. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>just sounds like she doesn't want to get suicideed. Who

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<v Speaker 1>do you think the eighth John does are? And how

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<v Speaker 1>many of them are still alive? There's definitely more than eight,

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<v Speaker 1>is my opinion. I mean, for real, you really think

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<v Speaker 1>there's only eight people that that we're part of this

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<v Speaker 1>entire island? And okay, how many Clinton's. It's a wide variety.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Clinton, we got Prince Andrew, We've had Chelsea

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<v Speaker 1>Handler on that plane. It's it's a real grab bag

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<v Speaker 1>of celebrities, like a mad lives. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to yeah, I don't want to upset anyone, but

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<v Speaker 1>I did hear Santa was on there? Oh? No, of

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<v Speaker 1>course the Jewish person would tread to burn sa Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the royal family, naughty children, the royal family is not

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<v Speaker 1>even waiting right there, just rolling over on on the prince,

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<v Speaker 1>so basically stripped him of his titles and his whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like, hey, good luck with all that. He

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<v Speaker 1>has to fight the lawsuit as a private citizen. That's

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<v Speaker 1>they really, they just immediately stripped him. That's pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they'd fight for one of their own na

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<v Speaker 1>the style. It's so much hr and PR with them.

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<v Speaker 1>They gotta just they gotta go with the flow r

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<v Speaker 1>pr e er. Yeah, it's the only o there. All right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I got our word, Oh god, treat okay? Alright.

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<v Speaker 1>So so here's what's going on, um alright. The documents

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<v Speaker 1>containing the names of the a John does or can

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<v Speaker 1>acted to a twenty fifteen deep deep comation defamation am

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<v Speaker 1>I okay case brought by Virginia Roberts, Garraffe, Joffrey Shop.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I looked this up ahead of time, Dmitri.

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<v Speaker 1>The documents containing the names of the eight John does

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<v Speaker 1>are connected to a twenty fifteen defamation case brought by

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia Roberts to Frey, who claimed Epstein sexually abused her

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<v Speaker 1>while she was a miner, and that Maxwell aided in

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<v Speaker 1>the abuse case was settled in twenty seventeen. Maxwell sixty

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<v Speaker 1>paces up to sixty five years in prison after she

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<v Speaker 1>was recently found guilty in a New York federal court

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<v Speaker 1>on five federal charges, including sex trafficking of a minor.

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<v Speaker 1>The charges were related to her role in Epstein's sexual

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<v Speaker 1>abuse of minor girls between two thousand four. After careful

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<v Speaker 1>review of the detailed objections submitted by non party does

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen fifty one, put are those numbers mean? Count's like, all,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so curious about all the number isn't Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>not eight if we're going up to huf one? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the whole island right here. Um. She doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to address the objections any further. Maxwell's attorney row

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<v Speaker 1>each of the listed does has counsel who have ably

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<v Speaker 1>asserted their own respective privacy rights, and she's going to

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<v Speaker 1>leave it up to the court to conduct the appropriate review.

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<v Speaker 1>This is her just like just flicking her middle finger up.

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<v Speaker 1>But everyone right, Yeah, I think so. The ultimate middle

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<v Speaker 1>finger would be that say those names though, yes, yes too,

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<v Speaker 1>it's too risky. What a bummer for her? Well, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>she know that they're gonna they're gonna announce the names,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think so? Do you think the judge will

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<v Speaker 1>release the names? Well, well, if the judge doesn't get suicided,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it would be crazy, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it would be crazy if he didn't like she's

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<v Speaker 1>not She's definitely got you know, a good chunk of

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<v Speaker 1>the blame is to what went on, But that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that other people shouldn't be guilty as well. Um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to part two of this story, where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not so sure she's gonna stay guilty forever. I think

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<v Speaker 1>she's trying to bring everyone else down and just get

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<v Speaker 1>out of jail and then probably joined Bezos and Elon

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<v Speaker 1>Musk in space. That's my best guess, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she went from just a regular airplane to a spaceship,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure the girls in there will be great.

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<v Speaker 1>But the sources say intruding young aliens. Yeah, they've moved

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<v Speaker 1>on from Earth links. They're like, wow, Harshen looks so young. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so all right. Prince Andrew likely dated Glen friend and

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<v Speaker 1>ex Royal guard claims so. According to friends and a

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<v Speaker 1>Formal Royal production officer, they claimed that Jeffrey Epstein's Madam

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<v Speaker 1>was constantly in and out of Buckingham Palace, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure he was also in and out of her former

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly former palace cop Paul Page What a Name? Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Paige Okay said in a new documentary that Maxwell became

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<v Speaker 1>a regular visitor from two thousand one. Theory Andrew and

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<v Speaker 1>his sex accuser were photographed in Maxwell's London home. How

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<v Speaker 1>come they didn't moved into Florida in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>New York is not the right place to live if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to commit ms demeters, go to Florida like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else. Yeah, well, actually has a place there. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you been, Mark? I went and visited. I did a

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<v Speaker 1>gig down there, and you gotta go see it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got hired for a private gig. Exactly was it

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<v Speaker 1>an island? Would you say? Or? Um? Did they ask

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<v Speaker 1>you to do clean comedy? Because he said, if I

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<v Speaker 1>can pee in the kitchen, we have a deal. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say I'm I'm happy that she dropped that case

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<v Speaker 1>because remember, I had a problem. I have a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with all these cases where you know people that the

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 1>the other reports of who else was involved don't come

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:12.199
<v Speaker 1>out when people go ahead and they die, or they

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 1>and they don't share. To me, that's that's a missed opportunity,

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Like you said, and they die. It's like you know,

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:23.119
<v Speaker 1>however it may be. Yeah, I hear you. I assume

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>or is everybody in agreement that you'd like to know

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>who these people are? Of course? Of course, yeah, we

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>need I think we're on a need to know basis

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and where we need to know, yes, exactly. Also just

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>a fun little detail here, So apparently Galaine described Andrew

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Prince Andrew as being her friend, not Jeffrey's, and she

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>made a specific mention of that, and then also that

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Andrew was known for having fifty or sixty stuffed toys

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 1>on his bed at the palace, and if the bears

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>weren't put back in the right order by the maids,

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>he would shout and scream and become very effensive. Is

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>this when he was a child or as an adult?

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I think this is which lets meet. Now I understand

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:09.119
<v Speaker 1>more why the royal family was just like go away.

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:14.119
<v Speaker 1>I think they had of his Yeah, yeah, I like

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 1>the idea of him walking around the palace looking for Pokemon.

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we talked about the old soul. This guy

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 1>is the other thing where he's just young at heart.

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Jesuise stuffed animals. Get it together, your your royalty. I

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>think can you imagine working at the Royal Palace and

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>being yelled at by an by an adult for not

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 1>putting stuffed animals back in the right order or place?

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.479
<v Speaker 1>I know, right, I mean, how do you How does

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 1>that not have murderer written all over it? Yeah? Yeah,

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and I think they're probably the stuffed animals were a

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>little harder, if you know what I mean. They could talk, Christy.

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Could we not put any cameras in any of them?

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on? But now well so so. Prince

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Andrew was being sued by Duffrey, who has long claimed

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 1>that Epstein and Maxwell made her have sex with him

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>three times, starting when she was just seventeen. And Prince

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Andrew has always denied these allegations. And this is when

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>he got stripped of his Royal highness title. And now

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 1>he has to fight the lawsuit as a private citizen.

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Now here's the part that is about to get real murky.

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>According to an attorney for Glenn, they filed a motion

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>requesting a new trial. The motion is under seal, but

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 1>apparently the letter from her attorney, Bobby Sternheim, requests that

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>all documents pertaining to Juror number fifty remain under seal

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 1>until the court rules on the motion. So apparently during

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>number fifty came out after the case and after everything

0:29:56.720 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 1>was sent and done, said that he gave gave multiple

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>post trial interviews saying that he had been sexually abused

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>as a child. He gave interviews to The Independent Daily

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Mail Reuters as Scottie David. That's his first middle name.

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 1>He said he shared his own story with all the

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 1>fellow jurors during deliberations and that it helped influence their decision.

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Defense attorneys argued in a court filing that the Supreme

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Court has ruled that a defendant is entitled to a

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>new trial if a party can show a juror failed

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>to answer a material question honestly during jury questioning. The

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>parties are still litigating the issue and Nathan will eventually

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 1>return on the motion for a new trial. Literally, it

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>feels like Gallaine's team paid this guy. I don't know,

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>this is crazy. I like to give a quick shout

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 1>out to um the Queen though, for being like pretty badass. Right,

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 1>She's like a mob Boston, and she's like, oh wait,

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>what happened? You're out, like you just cut them from

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the family. Yes queen, um, yes, literal queen in English.

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Say with that that legal document was basically getting at

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 1>what was the gist there? Basically, Yeah, So basically what's

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>going to happen is they're probably going to say there

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>was a mistrial because this juror went in and tried

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>to convince everyone from his POV after being sexually abused

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>that she was definitely abuser and swayed the jury. And

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>so now they're going to have another trial and drop

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the charges of her being guilty and then have a

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>new trial and I'm sure they'll pick the jersey and

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 1>she'll be scott free. Okay, well, got it, well said.

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>But that's interesting. If she was holding on to that hope,

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>why would she really? I mean, maybe the court will

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>just do it in that order anyway, but why say,

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to fight who it is anymore? Because

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 1>what happens if those names get released and then there's

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 1>a a follow up trial or maybe that will help

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 1>her in the long run. I think it will help

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 1>her in the long run. I mean I think there's

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>going to be a retrial. Yeah, I think so. And

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 1>what if the queen was one of the eight people,

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>that would be fun. He'd definitely be the oldest person

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>on that island by a mile. M I was, I mean,

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think Betty White was also there,

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 1>but I was there. And this this is his out,

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, Louis, And why is everyone dying? Suddenly? It's

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>we're losing. Also, his name is like your name if

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>you did like an anagram of it. I know, I

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>get that. A lot of like dyslexic people are like, oh,

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I clicked on this because I thought it was Norm.

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Who's this douche? And I'm like, hey, I get it.

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Norm's great, But yeah it is. Yeah, I can't believe

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 1>all these comedy legends are dying and also so young.

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Sixty five Louise sixty six or something like that. Yeah,

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Norm s two. It's crazy. What's going on? I thought

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>we're supposed to live longer now I know. I think

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>that they're probably just getting on the spaceship. I think

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>the chose about Peloton. That's my theory. A pulled to

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Mr bigh So, Tom, Sorry, I don't know what we're saying.

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Meat love died as well. He would do anything for

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 1>love except not dying. Yeah, exercise, I don't know, and

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>neat healthy. Yeah yeah, I don't. I don't know what.

0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 1>It just feels like all these legends are just hitting

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 1>the Hey, it's kind of a weird feeling. I thought

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 1>earlier today and I was like, God, it feels like, oh,

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 1>the legends are dying now, and this is never happened

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>before in history. You know. It's funny. When Betty White died,

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:08.439
<v Speaker 1>it was like, can you believe it? I'm like, yeah,

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>she's a hundred years old. She had a great run.

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.359
<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about? Of course she did. Mark,

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that's so insensitive. She was almost a hundred years old.

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Good point, good point, She's right there. I just can't

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 1>believe already Laying is still going. That's the real shocker. Hilarious.

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:29.839
<v Speaker 1>Good for him, you know it is. He takes care

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 1>of himself, right, He eats right, He doesn't put any

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 1>junk in his body. So yeah, exactly. I just think

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>it's odd we're not losing more comedians to the good

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>old fashioned white drugs and alcohol. Yeah, what the hell?

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the booster. No, I'm just kidding. Kidding.

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:56.840
<v Speaker 1>All right, I think it's time to move on to

0:34:57.040 --> 0:35:01.399
<v Speaker 1>my favorite case of the day. This is a really

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.280
<v Speaker 1>odd story that honestly could have happened to any of us. Okay,

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 1>this woman made more than twenty fake Instagram accounts to

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:11.959
<v Speaker 1>frame her ex boyfriend as a violent stalker, and she's

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>now in jail. I'm like, wait, is this about me? Okay? Uh,

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 1>not that I've done this. Okay. A twenty year old

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 1>British woman is behind bars finally, after she set up

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 1>more than twenty fake Instagram accounts in a bid to

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:30.240
<v Speaker 1>frame her ex boyfriend as a violent stalker. Courtney Ireland

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Ainsworth of Cheshire, England. Okay, it's like tell me you're

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 1>from the UK without telling me you're from the UK.

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Fish and chips, bad teeth. Okay, Um, I'm like every

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 1>buzzword created as many as thirty fake profiles between July

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and December, according to the Sun. The newspaper reported that

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 1>she used the accounts to send vile messages to herself

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 1>after she split with her former partner Louis Jolly. That's

0:35:56.200 --> 0:36:00.439
<v Speaker 1>a fake name, um, whose last name is Jolly? Yeah?

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>All right, I knew it. I knew really, Yeah, Kyle

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 1>jar he was okay um. So she'd been dating him

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:18.240
<v Speaker 1>for two years, and she apparently made ten police reports

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 1>about her former partner during this time, including a report

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 1>that he sent a message threatening to stab her in

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 1>the chest, and then she involved her friends and family

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>in this lie, asking her mom to call the police

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 1>and report the fake threatening messages. Also, she claimed that

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Jolly video and her walking on the street, harassing her friends,

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>smashing items in her house, and throwing a brick through

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>her grandma's window. Also, just I like that it's videoed

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>her walking on the street. It's like, okay um. He

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 1>was arrested six times because of these false allegations, and

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 1>he spent eighty one hours in custody, Not that long

0:36:56.960 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>if you asked me. He also lost his job following

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>assault and stocking charges, was placed on home curfew for

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:07.240
<v Speaker 1>twelve hours a day, had to wear an electronic ankle tag,

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>and had a stalking protection order against him, and he maintained, yeah,

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:14.399
<v Speaker 1>this is insane. He maintained his innocense the entire time.

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 1>It was eventually absolved in the guilt when detectives unraveled

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>her web of lives. The detectives requested user data from

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>meta a k Instagram revealed at least seventeen accounts were

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 1>created using her email addresses linked to her I P addresses,

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:32.240
<v Speaker 1>which were connect to her home phone and cell phone.

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 1>And she's finally arrested in convested, convested to perverting the

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 1>court of justice. I like it, wow. I mean, I'm

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 1>glad justice was, sir, but I don't. I don't like

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:48.800
<v Speaker 1>the story because I believe all women. So no, alright,

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm joking, but yeah, that's tough. I'm glad justice was, sir.

0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 1>This lady's a coke. She's a cooke. I just wish

0:37:56.680 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 1>someone was this obsessed with me, right, I mean that

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>is twenty new followers, and I bet that they were

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 1>actively engaging with her content. Yes, you know, like I'm

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 1>a horror for comments. So if you could just increase

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>my following whatever you can do to get it up there,

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>and just book some more gigs. If any of my

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>exes are listening to this, uh, feel free to just,

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, make some fake accounts threaten my life

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 1>whatever feels good to you, you know. Yeah again, don't

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 1>take that literally, yeah, please, So I listen. I know,

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I know when you're twenty, Like maybe you're not thinking straight.

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:41.880
<v Speaker 1>You get all you know, worked up about a relationship.

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:45.839
<v Speaker 1>But to be honest, and I know we're joking here,

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:49.879
<v Speaker 1>could you ever see yourself taking those steps? Like that's

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 1>a long way to go to frame somebody and like

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>ruin his life strictly because what was it? Because he

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:59.919
<v Speaker 1>broke up with her? Yeah, that's the new world order.

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:01.839
<v Speaker 1>Now it's like it's all online. We should just key

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.719
<v Speaker 1>a car. Whatever happened to key in a car? That

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:06.760
<v Speaker 1>those that are throwing the clothes out of the window,

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:10.359
<v Speaker 1>those days are over now you go digitally. I feel

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 1>like that'd go viral and TikTok. You saw someone throwing

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 1>clothes out the window? Oh yeah, yeah, that's a classic.

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is so crazy. I feel like this

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 1>is definitely not the only case like this. Oh yeah,

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:23.839
<v Speaker 1>for sure, this is this is pretty common. I think

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I think this is like one of millions. Definitely, definitely. Yeah.

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:32.399
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe they haven't figured out that I wanted

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 1>them yet. I know, at please stop messaging me. Oh,

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 1>would do we consider this cat fishing? Oh? I guess so.

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you think cat fishing should be a crime? But

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>this is catfishing to get someone in trouble, not really

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 1>to get late. Yeah that's not sexy alright, so we

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 1>know when you draw the line mark. Yes, yes, but yes,

0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I think if you're impersonating someone else with the tent

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 1>of getting someone in legal trouble or beyond, then yeah,

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I think she's got it like this. It's insane. Yeah,

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 1>it's too much. I mean, I'm sure this guy went

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 1>through hell. I mean he had to stay home during

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic like everyone else. He got some fancy ankle

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 1>jewelry out of it. Yeah, gods everyone lost their job.

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Have some empathy. Um, but maybe he didn't get unemployment

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>like everyone else. And here he was in what he

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.319
<v Speaker 1>was in, uh, in custody for eighty one hours, which

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>is a couple of your your drunk tanks right there.

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>So not that much. It's not fun. Yeah, No, I

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:51.240
<v Speaker 1>do feel bad for him. This is horrible. She's obviously nutty.

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I think if I grew up with social media, I

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 1>would have been in jail by now. Really, Like, I'm

0:40:57.640 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 1>really grateful that I didn't have Instagram I was twelve, same, same,

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel the same that I'm glad you didn't as well.

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Why what what would you we in jail for if

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 1>you've had Instagram or social media when you were younger?

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Such a good question. Um, probably being too sexy, probably

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:24.280
<v Speaker 1>being onst um. I don't know. I don't know, Dmitri.

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I God, no one's gonna be able to hear this podcast.

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Huh okay. I think I just think I honestly would

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:34.879
<v Speaker 1>have not been able to handle any level of being

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 1>bullied on the internet. M H. I hate to say,

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<v Speaker 1>not to bring it down, but like suicide is way

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:43.400
<v Speaker 1>up anxieties, we have depressions way up, and I think

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>it's all social media. Yeah, it has nothing to do

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:54.279
<v Speaker 1>with the pandemic. I think it's even pre pandemic though. No,

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:56.839
<v Speaker 1>it's true. I think I can't imagine being a young

0:41:56.920 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 1>girl girl like already going through puberty, trying an embraces

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 1>dealing with hormones and girls being mean to each other

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 1>and bullying each other in person, then then taking that

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<v Speaker 1>into social media. M hm. When I was a kid,

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:17.359
<v Speaker 1>every every story was like these female magazines. They put

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:19.959
<v Speaker 1>these models on the cover and it's with girls heads

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>or bar Harby is bad because it's a set of

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 1>unrealistic body standards. But now it's just kim Ka all day,

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Instagram models t working booty stuff and I'm just talking

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:35.319
<v Speaker 1>about my feed. But I can't even imagine what these

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.800
<v Speaker 1>girls are going through. I remember when I was in

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>high school, I got emails from a fake account that

0:42:43.600 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 1>we're like I want to have sex with Leah blah

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 1>blah blah, and and it was also like she looks

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 1>like a gremlin, but I'd still have sex with her,

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 1>something that was so obviously written by a fourteen year

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 1>old boy, and my parents were so upset they called

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:02.439
<v Speaker 1>the police over the email and tried to back down

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 1>the user. We originally like we finally found out who

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 1>it was, um, just because enough people, because literally what

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:16.320
<v Speaker 1>happened is my parents called other people's parents demanding to

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 1>find out dahn. So that's how they found out, not

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 1>through the police. They found out by calling and being like, yeah,

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>well the police have never really been able to help

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 1>anyone solve a crime. But um, but but remember back

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 1>in the day, when you go to a o L,

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you could see every account that that was signing in

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:39.839
<v Speaker 1>from the screen, so it was like obvious to see

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 1>who it was. And that's how we found out who

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 1>it was. I would name him by first and last

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>name on this podcast, but let it just be a mystery.

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:51.800
<v Speaker 1>It's Prince Andrew. It is Prince Andrew Andrew. Yeah, I

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 1>apparently like moved one of his stuffed animals and you

0:43:54.239 --> 0:44:00.840
<v Speaker 1>got really did you? Did you give a guy the business?

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 1>The kid who did it? M Um, yeah, I definitely

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>made out with him immediately. I don't think My bad,

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:17.800
<v Speaker 1>my bad. All right, we're gonna dig a quick break

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>from all the laughter and before we move on to

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>our next case. Hello, everyone, welcome back to Real Time Crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you miss us? If the answer is no, just

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:43.799
<v Speaker 1>you can stop listening. Um, my feelings are hurt. If

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:48.240
<v Speaker 1>the answer is yes, keep yeah, yeah, I keep listening.

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>If the answer is yes, you're a normal, healthy, well

0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:52.279
<v Speaker 1>adjusted person, and we're not talking to the people who

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 1>didn't miss us anymore. This is my version of internet bullying.

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, This next case is truly heartbreaking. So this

0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:05.880
<v Speaker 1>is the case Mark. I'm nervous. You can hear in

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Mark's voice, She's like, Oh, I'm gonna feel bad making

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:11.800
<v Speaker 1>fun of this person, whoever it is. The problem with

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:15.400
<v Speaker 1>this case is that it feels too connected to Mark's background. Okay,

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 1>literally not his professional background, the background of his zoom. Okay,

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:27.120
<v Speaker 1>hold on, Okay, this case is about Laurence smith Fields,

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 1>and if you are a very good social sleuth, you

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 1>already have heard her name. So Laurence smith Fields was

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:37.959
<v Speaker 1>found unresponsive in her Plymouth Street apartment in December twelve

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and later died. The family said smith Fields met an

0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>older white man on bumble and it was he who

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 1>alerted the police to her death. According to the report,

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 1>smith Fields had asked La found him this guy for

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>forty dollars for her nails and then to come meet

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:57.360
<v Speaker 1>her at her Bridgeport residence where they took shots of tequila.

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 1>According to the East Apartment, smith Fields was drinking tequila

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 1>at her apartment with Matthew Lave Fountain. I feel like

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 1>it should be La Fintaine, Okay, the fountain when she

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 1>became ill and went to go vomit in the bathroom.

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:16.360
<v Speaker 1>After she vomitted, she came back. They continued drinking tequila

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:19.440
<v Speaker 1>with mixers. The two drank all the way into the

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:23.240
<v Speaker 1>night when she got a text from someone which apparently

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>was her brother, and stepped outside. She went outside to

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:30.239
<v Speaker 1>get something from him, and then when she came back

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:32.759
<v Speaker 1>in she went to the bathroom for several minutes. After

0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:37.440
<v Speaker 1>she returned her dates, law Fountain told the officer that

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 1>he thought it was odd, but didn't feel it was

0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 1>his place to say anything because he didn't know her

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:44.280
<v Speaker 1>that well, and the police report states that smith Fields

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.480
<v Speaker 1>and the man had continued to watch the movie, finished

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the bottle tequila when she fell asleep on the couch,

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and then he carried her to the bedroom. They both

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:54.560
<v Speaker 1>went to sleep. At three am, he said he went

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.439
<v Speaker 1>to use the bathroom and she was snoring. He woke

0:46:57.520 --> 0:46:59.800
<v Speaker 1>up at six thirty saying that she was laying on

0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 1>her right side with blood coming out of her right

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 1>nostril and wasn't breathing, and that's when he called nine one.

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Following the police arrival, the landlord was contacted, but he

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:13.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't have any of her family's information, so it wasn't

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 1>until days later when Midfield's mom, Chantel Fields, went to

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:20.400
<v Speaker 1>the apartment to see why she hadn't been answering numerous

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 1>calls and texts, and then, oh god, this is so heartbreaking.

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 1>The landlord put a note on her door that said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're looking for Lauren, please contact this number. My

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:31.520
<v Speaker 1>my heart would sink into my asshole if I heard that,

0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 1>if I saw that note. So that's how the mom

0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:37.600
<v Speaker 1>found out that her daughter had passed away. Well, yeah,

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and and and so she called the landlord, and that's

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:41.759
<v Speaker 1>how she found out about her daughter's death. Okay. So,

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:45.080
<v Speaker 1>nowhere in the police report did officers mentioned detaining the

0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Fountain for questioning, despite him being the last person who

0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:54.120
<v Speaker 1>saw smith Fields alive. So the family, by the way,

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:57.320
<v Speaker 1>has filed a lawsuit the police department. They're saying that

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<v Speaker 1>they found a bunch of inconsistencies in the report, and

0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:03.920
<v Speaker 1>including that she was apparently intoxicated when she went outside

0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 1>to go see her brother Lakim Jetter Jeter Jeddter. All right, Riley,

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. Okay, Uh, including that, do you think

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 1>when God was giving the commandments, he was like, hold on,

0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:27.920
<v Speaker 1>go back. I didn't mean that that, okay, Including that

0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:30.359
<v Speaker 1>she was intoxicating when she went outside to go see

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 1>her brother Lakim, And apparently Leakim said that that's not true.

0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:39.360
<v Speaker 1>She wasn't intoxicated at all. Apparently they were exchanging clothes

0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:42.240
<v Speaker 1>of some like laundry situation. They talked for fifteen minutes

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:44.319
<v Speaker 1>and he's he knows her super well, and he never

0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 1>would have been okay with her being that drunk or

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:50.400
<v Speaker 1>we've said something to her if he realized she was

0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:53.760
<v Speaker 1>super intoxicated. And it says that the police report doesn't

0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:55.880
<v Speaker 1>at all match the story of the last relative. The

0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:58.360
<v Speaker 1>family also said the police did not collect evidence in

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:01.800
<v Speaker 1>the apartment. Mm. The mother went back to the apartment

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 1>and she said she found a condom with semen inside

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:07.240
<v Speaker 1>her daughter's apartment, along with a pill that was unidentified

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:10.360
<v Speaker 1>that they believed might be a sedative. They didn't test

0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:12.320
<v Speaker 1>any of the cups to see if it was liquor

0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 1>or if there was anything inside of it. The first

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:21.560
<v Speaker 1>night we saw cups there, flipped plates and lube. M hum, well,

0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:24.319
<v Speaker 1>you know um. And they also say that the Bridge

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<v Speaker 1>Pars police were super unprofessional in their handling of the investigation,

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 1>apparently Detective Cronin who said he would arrive in thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>They waited over an hour for him to arrive, and

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 1>then they called him again and the family was told

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:42.279
<v Speaker 1>to stop calling, and then they got him. You know,

0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:45.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, who is this my mom? And then they

0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:51.359
<v Speaker 1>received a visit from the officer Garcia and Apparently when

0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 1>he got there, the majority of the investigation had already

0:49:56.640 --> 0:50:00.080
<v Speaker 1>been completed, but so many things were a full it

0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:03.920
<v Speaker 1>and like there were dishes out, there were bloody sheets,

0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:07.440
<v Speaker 1>but everything had been like randomly packed and nothing was

0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 1>really properly logged. And they also said that apparently Garcia

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:15.759
<v Speaker 1>started talking shit about Detective Cronan, saying he was like

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:17.799
<v Speaker 1>an asshole and this and that. But then when they

0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 1>went to go get they got interrogated the police station.

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Apparently he was like, I would never say this about Cronan.

0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Are you saying I'm a liar? So he was playing

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<v Speaker 1>both sides of the coin. Okay, The families bringing an

0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:35.880
<v Speaker 1>independent agencies to handle the investigation, and apparently the Bridgeport

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Police department is riddled with problems the last two years,

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<v Speaker 1>including the former police chief, Armando Perez, was sentenced to

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<v Speaker 1>prison last year for rigging his own hiring process to

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<v Speaker 1>ensure he became the city's top cop. I mean that's motivation,

0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:58.280
<v Speaker 1>That's that's like dedication raft. Yeah, I mean we should

0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:05.280
<v Speaker 1>all have that sort of sticktuitiveness and drive, you know. Sure. Um, anyway,

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:08.480
<v Speaker 1>this is a pretty tragic case obviously, and apparently when

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the family went there, they saw that there was in

0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:14.279
<v Speaker 1>fact blood in the center of her bed that was

0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:17.640
<v Speaker 1>then fading out to the right side. So they don't

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>really believe that she was just on the bed with

0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:21.920
<v Speaker 1>blood coming out of her nose, because why would it

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:26.520
<v Speaker 1>all be in the center of the bed. And uh,

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:29.800
<v Speaker 1>this is a story that we are very confused about

0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:33.960
<v Speaker 1>because there's been so little press on the case and

0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 1>it seems like it has lacked any sort of proper investigation. Basically,

0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:39.759
<v Speaker 1>her family at the end of the month had to

0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:43.040
<v Speaker 1>go pack up the whole apartment and that's when they

0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 1>found most of the evidence themselves. Um, there's not a

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:50.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of awareness. People are saying that, just like the

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Gabby Potito case, maybe social media can bring more of

0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:57.560
<v Speaker 1>this to light. Uh huh, No, there's the guy. There's

0:51:57.560 --> 0:52:02.919
<v Speaker 1>no closure here, no closure. Wow, it's clearly that guy

0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:06.600
<v Speaker 1>who went on the date. I mean, that guy's something right. Yeah. Well,

0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:12.080
<v Speaker 1>so apparently the police department didn't interrogate him or bring

0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:14.320
<v Speaker 1>him in for questioning because they thought he was quote

0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:20.520
<v Speaker 1>a nice guy. Nice guys don't make crimes. Yeah, obviously,

0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I I'm this is gonna answer itself. But

0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:28.239
<v Speaker 1>it's like how do you get that? We already know

0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:30.759
<v Speaker 1>the guy got himself to be the top cop that

0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:33.360
<v Speaker 1>went to jail, But like, how do you become police?

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:36.279
<v Speaker 1>Police officers? How do you how is your job to

0:52:36.640 --> 0:52:39.080
<v Speaker 1>go when someone is murdered, there's a crime, to go

0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:41.840
<v Speaker 1>there and not follow these basic steps which were just

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:44.920
<v Speaker 1>regular everyday people here are sitting here, We've watched you know,

0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:48.920
<v Speaker 1>crime shows and documentaries. It's you're not You don't have

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:51.480
<v Speaker 1>to be a genius to know like, oh, don't touch anything,

0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:53.799
<v Speaker 1>pick this up, look around, like none of that ship

0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:59.440
<v Speaker 1>was done. It seems like that's just a really corrupt

0:52:59.680 --> 0:53:02.839
<v Speaker 1>police department and everyone's trying to be the top cop.

0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it's actually a new reality show. Next top.

0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:14.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm more of a power bottom. But either way, yeah,

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:18.080
<v Speaker 1>this is super shady. And here's the problem with police.

0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Police are like the post office, you know, their government run,

0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:24.359
<v Speaker 1>so there's no competition. Like that's why the post office sucks.

0:53:24.400 --> 0:53:26.840
<v Speaker 1>You go to fed X, you go to d h

0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:29.200
<v Speaker 1>L or whatever the hell it is. You know, we

0:53:29.320 --> 0:53:34.120
<v Speaker 1>have no alternative for police, so there's no competition. Yeah,

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I bet they'd solve it in two days. Well, and

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:40.440
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing you kill like you can hire a

0:53:40.520 --> 0:53:42.800
<v Speaker 1>private investigator, but you can't hire them and be like

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 1>get there before the police and pick up all right, exactly,

0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 1>we gotta get Dog the bounty hunter on this. Now

0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:55.600
<v Speaker 1>we're talking. That's a good call. Okay, hold on, I

0:53:55.719 --> 0:53:58.880
<v Speaker 1>think you guys need to see a photo of this

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:03.840
<v Speaker 1>man first of all, because I'm starting to see a

0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:11.839
<v Speaker 1>through line of recent murderers. Oh sorry, alleged murders. Here

0:54:11.960 --> 0:54:15.800
<v Speaker 1>we go. This is gonna look like me. Is this

0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:22.759
<v Speaker 1>another bald guy with a beard whoa Dmitri? I can

0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:25.359
<v Speaker 1>see it. I have some questions about where you were

0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:28.880
<v Speaker 1>in early December. Come out listen to Brian Laundry thing.

0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you could be like I think I saw him.

0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:32.600
<v Speaker 1>There's no way this number one. I don't have that

0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:37.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of build to this guy's. You know, now, can

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I see you with your wire frame glasses? Please? Also,

0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:47.000
<v Speaker 1>is this not exactly what Brian Laundry looks like? But older? Well,

0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:49.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean here's in like a camping and camping gear

0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:52.239
<v Speaker 1>and ship like that. So yeah, and he's look. I

0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:54.560
<v Speaker 1>understand that you're getting upset because you're like, not all

0:54:54.640 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 1>bald men with beards look alike, but don't they I

0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:03.560
<v Speaker 1>don't camp. So I think that kind of clears me

0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:10.279
<v Speaker 1>of of being too associated with these guys. Oh my god, right, okay, yeah,

0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:12.080
<v Speaker 1>but but I don't. I don't like I I just

0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:15.719
<v Speaker 1>think like ladies. You know, if you're swiping on a

0:55:15.840 --> 0:55:18.359
<v Speaker 1>dating app, maybe just say swipe left on a guy

0:55:18.400 --> 0:55:20.279
<v Speaker 1>who looks like this. You know what, I'm glad I'm

0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:22.719
<v Speaker 1>married because right now you're tanking every bald guy with

0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:27.359
<v Speaker 1>a beard on a dating app. Wait still, you see

0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:29.279
<v Speaker 1>my crowd work. Just don't sit in the front row,

0:55:29.440 --> 0:55:30.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, don't sit in the front row if you

0:55:30.760 --> 0:55:36.400
<v Speaker 1>don't want me to ruin your relationship. I don't know.

0:55:36.560 --> 0:55:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I okay. So, so does this feel like a cautionary

0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:43.120
<v Speaker 1>tale for dating app users? Of course, yeah. I think

0:55:43.360 --> 0:55:45.800
<v Speaker 1>inviting someone over the first night it's a little nutty,

0:55:46.000 --> 0:55:49.320
<v Speaker 1>then straight to tequila. The whole thing is a is

0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 1>a recipe for disaster. Mark would no drinking. Yes, it's

0:55:56.040 --> 0:55:58.480
<v Speaker 1>never done well for him. And look, I'm I'm in

0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:01.240
<v Speaker 1>a relationship now. But I did I fair share bumbling

0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and uh it was pretty rare to get straight to

0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:08.279
<v Speaker 1>the apartment. Also that she asked him for money too,

0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:15.080
<v Speaker 1>for her nails beforehand. Yes, yes, fishy, what's going on here? Yeah?

0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the whole thing, like how do you

0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 1>how do you ever piece this together? Like it's it's

0:56:19.640 --> 0:56:21.960
<v Speaker 1>odd from the start, and then there was such sloppy

0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:26.480
<v Speaker 1>follow up to it, like I mean, unless they can,

0:56:26.680 --> 0:56:29.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, find a way and get this guy to

0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:32.200
<v Speaker 1>answer questions or to trace something back like the woman

0:56:32.280 --> 0:56:34.080
<v Speaker 1>with the twenty Instagram things, to be able to trace

0:56:34.160 --> 0:56:36.719
<v Speaker 1>certain things back to somebody. But I don't think the

0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:40.400
<v Speaker 1>necessary steps were taken in order to in order to

0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:42.920
<v Speaker 1>do stuff like that. Absolutely not. And I think that

0:56:43.000 --> 0:56:45.279
<v Speaker 1>there was some sort of inconsistency with them saying the

0:56:45.360 --> 0:56:48.600
<v Speaker 1>autopsy had been completed and then suddenly the autopsy wasn't

0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:51.080
<v Speaker 1>completed and they're gonna do more research on it. And

0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I do believe that if anyone is going to get

0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:57.680
<v Speaker 1>this case moving again, it's going to be TikTok. Yeah,

0:56:59.160 --> 0:57:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I think this is Uh, there's gotta be

0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:06.520
<v Speaker 1>some fettan al here. Oh you think so? Oh? Yeah?

0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I think he he drugged her and overdid it, or

0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:12.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe the brother gave her some blow something. Something's going

0:57:12.760 --> 0:57:18.000
<v Speaker 1>on here with drugs. Yeah, And and there's there's something

0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:22.400
<v Speaker 1>with drugs. Yeah, definitely. Well he stood out and stood

0:57:22.440 --> 0:57:24.360
<v Speaker 1>that when you said they were drinking tequila, she went

0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:26.600
<v Speaker 1>and threw up, came back, and then they drank tequila

0:57:26.640 --> 0:57:32.800
<v Speaker 1>with mixers. Yes, to be fair, I've definitely been too drunk, vomited,

0:57:32.880 --> 0:57:37.440
<v Speaker 1>came back and was like yeah, maybe you know um,

0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:41.640
<v Speaker 1>and this is why I don't drink anymore. But do

0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:45.480
<v Speaker 1>you know how you quit? You know, I took like

0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:49.280
<v Speaker 1>a seven year absence. Hey, good for you. I'm not

0:57:49.400 --> 0:57:53.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not like sober, but I do understand that it

0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:58.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't align with me for seven year absence from drinking

0:57:58.280 --> 0:58:01.160
<v Speaker 1>or like you blacked out for seven years. Well, yeah,

0:58:01.200 --> 0:58:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I did, just wake up from a coma and wondering

0:58:03.560 --> 0:58:05.840
<v Speaker 1>how I got into this podcast. I think the thing

0:58:05.920 --> 0:58:08.080
<v Speaker 1>that really upset me the most is when I woke

0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:10.480
<v Speaker 1>up on the floor of a frat house and one

0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:12.200
<v Speaker 1>hand was covered in salsa and the other hand was

0:58:12.280 --> 0:58:18.360
<v Speaker 1>covered in antela ha, And I was like, I gotta

0:58:18.400 --> 0:58:23.760
<v Speaker 1>quit drinking. Um, just just imagining myself going back and

0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:28.200
<v Speaker 1>forth between like sweet and salty. Yeah, you got a

0:58:28.240 --> 0:58:32.200
<v Speaker 1>good palette, a lot of range there. It was like

0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:35.320
<v Speaker 1>the fat It's like the boys in the frat house,

0:58:35.360 --> 0:58:37.800
<v Speaker 1>were like, don't she's got bigger fish to fry, you

0:58:37.880 --> 0:58:41.040
<v Speaker 1>know on that one. You have a condom? No, but

0:58:41.120 --> 0:58:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I have condiments. Whatever you need, I got it. Oh boy. Yeah.

0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Then I I remember waking up at around uh four

0:58:51.520 --> 0:58:54.000
<v Speaker 1>in the morning, five in the morning, hopping out the

0:58:54.080 --> 0:58:59.160
<v Speaker 1>window the door didn't seem appropriate, and then passing out

0:58:59.200 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 1>on my front lawn. That that was covered morning. Do

0:59:02.280 --> 0:59:07.200
<v Speaker 1>when I woke up at nine am? Damn, your dad's

0:59:07.240 --> 0:59:10.760
<v Speaker 1>just mowing the lawn around you, and and what And

0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:13.840
<v Speaker 1>from that you stopped drinking. I mean, no, no, no,

0:59:13.960 --> 0:59:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I drank for many years. That boy. We're one the same,

0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:21.200
<v Speaker 1>We're cover from the same cloth. I know, you know,

0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I just I was so much more fun when I drank. Same. Well,

0:59:25.760 --> 0:59:28.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I'll use Jim Jeffrey's joke. No great story

0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:36.600
<v Speaker 1>started with I had a salad. Yeah, And I assume Mark,

0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:39.160
<v Speaker 1>you still drink because the sunglasses are not because you're

0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:41.320
<v Speaker 1>they're not blue blockers. It's not you're worried about the

0:59:41.400 --> 0:59:45.280
<v Speaker 1>race from your computer. Right now, I am. I'm hurting

0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:48.919
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but I haven't Syracuse and there's really

0:59:49.000 --> 0:59:53.400
<v Speaker 1>nothing else to do, so I'm so lonely and on

0:59:53.480 --> 0:59:55.720
<v Speaker 1>the road, so I had to had to tie one on.

0:59:56.800 --> 0:59:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we're stopping you from starting up again.

0:59:59.440 --> 1:00:02.040
<v Speaker 1>No oh, I got a few hours. This podcast is

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<v Speaker 1>the exact reason to start drinking, in my opinion. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very sad because of the because of the the news,

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<v Speaker 1>right yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, okay, not because of

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<v Speaker 1>my dating history, although also very sad. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>we have time for the voicemail? I think we should

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<v Speaker 1>do it. I don't think we have time for the voicemail,

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<v Speaker 1>dmitri No, what if we have to find extra time

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<v Speaker 1>on our hands. I don't know. We keep telling people

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<v Speaker 1>to call in, but then you know what, You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, you're right, you're right. Riley, quick, quick, quickly

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<v Speaker 1>play the voicemail. I think we deserve to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it's something that we just can't tackle today,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll tackle next week. But at least, let's play the voicemail.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to say thank you to everyone who

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<v Speaker 1>calls in and leaves the white smails that we never

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<v Speaker 1>get to. We don't want to trigger your abandonment issues,

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<v Speaker 1>but all right, Riley, play the voicemail. Please, guys. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, like, I love your podcast super great. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you guys considered talking about the Tamala Horsford case. She

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<v Speaker 1>was a Georgia mother who went to a football sleepover

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<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of other football moms who mysteriously died.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not everything was ruled an accident, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was some evidence that has mysteriously gone missing. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>super sketchy. Thanks. Fine, I've never heard that one, NOA.

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<v Speaker 1>I've also never heard of like a football mom sleepover,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think I think we should look into that

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<v Speaker 1>for next time. I mean, when we say football mom,

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<v Speaker 1>do we mean like in the British sense, likes this

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<v Speaker 1>soccer the European where we're talking about American football. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we have soccer moms. Why not football mom? I think

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<v Speaker 1>it makes sense. All right, we got some football moms

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<v Speaker 1>in the house, all right, So we'll dive into that

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<v Speaker 1>case next time. Thank you for calling in, and again

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<v Speaker 1>you can call us live at eight six six one crime.

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<v Speaker 1>That's eight six six to anyone crime, six six to

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<v Speaker 1>anyone crime. That's eight six six two one two seven

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<v Speaker 1>four six three. You know, if you've got a question

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<v Speaker 1>comment concerned case that we should look into like football, mom,

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<v Speaker 1>which we certainly will. And Mark, any final thoughts today,

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<v Speaker 1>this is probably not at all what you expected, not

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<v Speaker 1>at all. I have to ask anyone else hard. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>all this murder talks really got me going. No, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for having me. It's great to see it, Dmitri. Good

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<v Speaker 1>to meet you. Just super fun and enlightening, and it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of helps you not feel like a weirdo. Sometimes

1:02:40.720 --> 1:02:42.320
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, I'm a psycho, and then you hear

1:02:42.320 --> 1:02:46.000
<v Speaker 1>about these other people and you're like, I'm doing okay. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad that this made you feel better about

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<v Speaker 1>your life. That's what this is. This isn't even a podcast, Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, my buddy Marks a little down on himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we just fake a podcast and share him up? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay guys, yeah, Cut, thank you so much. I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you coming in today, but you know, the gig's up. Um. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>This is actually an inspirational podcast on how to feel

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<v Speaker 1>better about yourself. Mark. Remember there's people worse than you

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<v Speaker 1>out there, and Mark feel better. Where can we find

1:03:11.760 --> 1:03:14.360
<v Speaker 1>you on the internet. Hey, I'm all over the place,

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<v Speaker 1>out to the lunch on YouTube. I gotta have my

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<v Speaker 1>own YouTube channel, Instagram at Mark Norman, Twitter at Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Norm Mark Norman Comedy dot com. For dates, check out

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<v Speaker 1>dates with Mark. Um, he's taking ladies hands off. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so sorry. Yeah, and you Mark, you're on tour right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on tour every weekend. I'm sure I'm coming to

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<v Speaker 1>your town. So check out those dates and say hello. Yeay,

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<v Speaker 1>so go check out Mark. He's hilarious. He'll probably be

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<v Speaker 1>wearing sunglasses and no, I'm not blind. You're the Stevie

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<v Speaker 1>Wonder of comedy. Yeah, come say hello and uh yeah

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go gay comedy. Okay, all right, I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, if if you don't like to laugh, don't

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the podcast. And that's our tagline. What's something

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<v Speaker 1>that should be a crime that's not a crime? Mm hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>good question. Um calling me before noon farting in an

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<v Speaker 1>elevator with other people, I'm definitely guilty of that one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a that's punishable by death, I think, yeah, crime

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<v Speaker 1>punishable by death. Also, Mark, just so you know, Teddy

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<v Speaker 1>has never been able to get me to wake up

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<v Speaker 1>at ten am to do this podcast and should be

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<v Speaker 1>furious should it was midnight? Yes? All right. Well, this

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<v Speaker 1>has been an amazing episode of Real time crime with

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<v Speaker 1>our guests Hot Today, Mark Norman, Mark, I love you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for coming on. Go see Mark shows. He's

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<v Speaker 1>on tour. He's hilarious, as you heard here today. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've been Lee Omar, that's been sometimes. Dmitri who was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times Dmitri today, and we'll see you

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<v Speaker 1>next week. I love you all. Stay safe. Bye. It's

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<v Speaker 1>real time Rod, it's real time Grady. I mean, is

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<v Speaker 1>it actually real time crime? I'm solving anything? Or is

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<v Speaker 1>that just the thing we stay it's a thing we say,

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<v Speaker 1>got it? Okay, See you next week for more real

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<v Speaker 1>time crime, only on I Horror Radio.