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Speaker 1: Crime. Hello Social sleuths, everyone, Welcome back to the Real

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Speaker 1: Time Crime. I'm your host Leo Lamar, and today we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be discussing a local l a crime the Lane

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Speaker 1: Maxwell again Lawrence smith Fields, and we'll probably get to

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Speaker 1: a voicemail maybe this time we promised you and it

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Speaker 1: just never happened. But we will get to it. But

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Speaker 1: first a quick announcement and possibly a crime. My regular

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Speaker 1: co host Teddy Mellencamp, who you know and love, is

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Speaker 1: on vacation and didn't take us Dmitri. How do we

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Speaker 1: feel about this? I'd like to say that I'm surprised,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not. This is yeahs Teddy. Yeah. Ever since

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Speaker 1: you lost that Fannie pack, I feel like she's become

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Speaker 1: someone else and who knows, maybe her vacation is back

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Speaker 1: there looking for it because she seemed oddly attached to it.

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Speaker 1: But wow, she's getting too close to the case. Ye

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Speaker 1: she moving back to Asben to track down her Fannie back.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy? Okay, well, Teddy, we miss you, but lucky

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Speaker 1: for us, we have a guest host today who's a

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Speaker 1: dear friend of mine and absolutely hilarious human being. You

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Speaker 1: may know him from his one hour Comedy Central special

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Speaker 1: Don't Be Yourself, a Comedy Central half hour special from

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Speaker 1: Conan six times and probably more than that by now.

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Speaker 1: The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon, Late Show with Stephen

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Speaker 1: Colbert showtimes Live at south By Southwest. Can you hear that?

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Speaker 1: I'm dying slowly? Every credit inside a shomer. I think

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Speaker 1: I've forgotten how to read at this point. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: my friend, Mark Norman. Mark, welcome to Real Time Crime.

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Speaker 1: I'm exhausted after reading just one third of your credits. Hey,

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Speaker 1: good to be here, Thanks for having me, and uh boy,

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Speaker 1: I wish you were my mom. She doesn't know any

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Speaker 1: of those credits, so that's nice to hear in great eyebrows. Wow, Mark,

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Speaker 1: I am actually your mom. Lucky you and I have

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Speaker 1: photos of you clipped out and put on my refrigerator.

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Speaker 1: Is that a crime? No? No, it's very nice. Thank

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Speaker 1: you remind you to not eat? Yeah, this is my intervention.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I have been on the bounce recently. Okay,

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Speaker 1: just can we set up this scenario? Just what people

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Speaker 1: can't see right now? Ye? Sunglasses on? He's clearly in

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Speaker 1: home after a hotel sheets are in disarrayed behind him,

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Speaker 1: like something has gone on. It's it's I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: it's it's relatively morning time and he's got sunglasses on,

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Speaker 1: so what's up. It looks like he just committed a crime,

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Speaker 1: like you're you're you're at a ramada in looking at

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Speaker 1: a nineties cube television wondering where it all went wrong.

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Speaker 1: The only crime is I stole a woman's heart. No, no,

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Speaker 1: it's just just one woman from the look of that

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Speaker 1: hotel room, one woman and two men. But yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is the road, folks. You know, I'm on the road

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Speaker 1: arm in Syracuse. It's twelve degrees outside. I've already masturbated

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Speaker 1: I got to eight this morning right before this. Well

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Speaker 1: send me the video, I will um. I'm so glad

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Speaker 1: you knew I filmed it. That's another crime that Mark

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Speaker 1: actually has a camera in my apartment somewhere. I assume

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Speaker 1: you're on only fans. Every every lady, I know it

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Speaker 1: is on only fans. They're cleaning up. I'm not. I'm

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Speaker 1: actually on only feet. Turned out I didn't have any fans.

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Speaker 1: Those are huge. Yeah, I got quite a huff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: wait till you see this big toe. Um, oh boy,

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Speaker 1: it could take out a tiny village. So Mark, they're

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Speaker 1: asking how we know each other. I got pieced it together,

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Speaker 1: but go ahead. I just loved Marge hotel room. Yes here, No,

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Speaker 1: we met what six years ago? Yeah? Years ago on

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Speaker 1: the comedy scene, and everybody just kind of intermingles. It

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Speaker 1: I think it was something way less glamorous. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to think back into my comedy spank Bank, and I

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Speaker 1: think we were in the East Village. That's the name

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Speaker 1: of Louie's new album. By the way. Yeah, oh I

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Speaker 1: thought you met Louis Anderson. Alright, oh no, geez, alright, alright,

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Speaker 1: my bad. I yeah, I think we met at a show.

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Speaker 1: And the entire audience didn't speak English. Yeah, that's kind.

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Speaker 1: the audience exactly. I remember seeing you, remember thinking this

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Speaker 1: was blown away. Thank you so much, no kidding? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: um no, Actually, Mark, you're not Jewish. That's the crime.

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Speaker 1: I wish all my heroes are. So let's get to

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Speaker 1: the bottom of this. So I'm sure people want to

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Speaker 1: you can believe this, Mark respected me. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 1: good to see her. Oh, Mark love you. Okay, Wait, Mark,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think some of the fans might want

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Speaker 1: me and Teddy rambling on about nothing. So you don't

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Speaker 1: look like Teddy. You're not Teddy. Um, You're Mark Mormon,

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Speaker 1: a legend, a comedy king. How did you get involved

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Speaker 1: hotel check your luggage before you leave? No, please don't.

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Speaker 1: have you ever gone to jail a few times? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: much booze. But murderous dismemberment. We're clean. Yeah, no, no murder, no,

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Speaker 1: so much for your time, Mark, But we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: me on, Mark watch good Time? Oh boy, okay, Mark?

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Speaker 1: Do you do you like any true crime cases? Do

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Speaker 1: you have any true crime cases that are do you

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Speaker 1: one's great. I love the zodiac. I love the one.

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Speaker 1: actual murderers, right, Yeah, but you know they're fascinating, so

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Speaker 1: many good ones. Mark, what's your zodiac? I think I'm

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm a aquarious, so we uh, you

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Speaker 1: right in Dmitri, didn't you post on your Instagram something thing, story,

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Speaker 1: something story, something about like the zodiac signs that match

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Speaker 1: with every serial killer and most of them were Gemini. Yeah?

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Speaker 1: so all right. Prince Andrew likely dated Glen friend and

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00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: ex Royal guard claims so. According to friends and a

422
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: Formal Royal production officer, they claimed that Jeffrey Epstein's Madam

423
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: was constantly in and out of Buckingham Palace, and I'm

424
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: sure he was also in and out of her former

425
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: allegedly former palace cop Paul Page What a Name? Paul

426
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: Paige Okay said in a new documentary that Maxwell became

427
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: a regular visitor from two thousand one. Theory Andrew and

428
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 1: his sex accuser were photographed in Maxwell's London home. How

429
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: come they didn't moved into Florida in the first place.

430
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: New York is not the right place to live if

431
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: you want to commit ms demeters, go to Florida like

432
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: everyone else. Yeah, well, actually has a place there. Have

433
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: you been, Mark? I went and visited. I did a

434
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: gig down there, and you gotta go see it. You know,

435
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: you got hired for a private gig. Exactly was it

436
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: an island? Would you say? Or? Um? Did they ask

437
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: you to do clean comedy? Because he said, if I

438
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: can pee in the kitchen, we have a deal. But

439
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: I'll say I'm I'm happy that she dropped that case

440
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: because remember, I had a problem. I have a problem

441
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: with all these cases where you know people that the

442
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: the other reports of who else was involved don't come

443
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: out when people go ahead and they die, or they

444
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: and they don't share. To me, that's that's a missed opportunity,

445
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: Like you said, and they die. It's like you know,

446
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: however it may be. Yeah, I hear you. I assume

447
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: or is everybody in agreement that you'd like to know

448
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: who these people are? Of course? Of course, yeah, we

449
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: need I think we're on a need to know basis

450
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: and where we need to know, yes, exactly. Also just

451
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: a fun little detail here, So apparently Galaine described Andrew

452
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: Prince Andrew as being her friend, not Jeffrey's, and she

453
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: made a specific mention of that, and then also that

454
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: Andrew was known for having fifty or sixty stuffed toys

455
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: on his bed at the palace, and if the bears

456
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: weren't put back in the right order by the maids,

457
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: he would shout and scream and become very effensive. Is

458
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: this when he was a child or as an adult?

459
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: I think this is which lets meet. Now I understand

460
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: more why the royal family was just like go away.

461
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: I think they had of his Yeah, yeah, I like

462
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: the idea of him walking around the palace looking for Pokemon.

463
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about the old soul. This guy

464
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: is the other thing where he's just young at heart.

465
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: Jesuise stuffed animals. Get it together, your your royalty. I

466
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: think can you imagine working at the Royal Palace and

467
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: being yelled at by an by an adult for not

468
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: putting stuffed animals back in the right order or place?

469
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 1: I know, right, I mean, how do you How does

470
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: that not have murderer written all over it? Yeah? Yeah,

471
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: and I think they're probably the stuffed animals were a

472
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: little harder, if you know what I mean. They could talk, Christy.

473
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: Could we not put any cameras in any of them?

474
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: I mean, come on? But now well so so. Prince

475
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: Andrew was being sued by Duffrey, who has long claimed

476
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: that Epstein and Maxwell made her have sex with him

477
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: three times, starting when she was just seventeen. And Prince

478
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: Andrew has always denied these allegations. And this is when

479
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: he got stripped of his Royal highness title. And now

480
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: he has to fight the lawsuit as a private citizen.

481
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 1: Now here's the part that is about to get real murky.

482
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: According to an attorney for Glenn, they filed a motion

483
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: requesting a new trial. The motion is under seal, but

484
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: apparently the letter from her attorney, Bobby Sternheim, requests that

485
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: all documents pertaining to Juror number fifty remain under seal

486
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: until the court rules on the motion. So apparently during

487
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: number fifty came out after the case and after everything

488
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: was sent and done, said that he gave gave multiple

489
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: post trial interviews saying that he had been sexually abused

490
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: as a child. He gave interviews to The Independent Daily

491
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: Mail Reuters as Scottie David. That's his first middle name.

492
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: He said he shared his own story with all the

493
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: fellow jurors during deliberations and that it helped influence their decision.

494
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: Defense attorneys argued in a court filing that the Supreme

495
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: Court has ruled that a defendant is entitled to a

496
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: new trial if a party can show a juror failed

497
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: to answer a material question honestly during jury questioning. The

498
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: parties are still litigating the issue and Nathan will eventually

499
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: return on the motion for a new trial. Literally, it

500
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: feels like Gallaine's team paid this guy. I don't know,

501
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: this is crazy. I like to give a quick shout

502
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: out to um the Queen though, for being like pretty badass. Right,

503
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: She's like a mob Boston, and she's like, oh wait,

504
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: what happened? You're out, like you just cut them from

505
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: the family. Yes queen, um, yes, literal queen in English.

506
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: Say with that that legal document was basically getting at

507
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: what was the gist there? Basically, Yeah, So basically what's

508
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: going to happen is they're probably going to say there

509
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: was a mistrial because this juror went in and tried

510
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: to convince everyone from his POV after being sexually abused

511
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: that she was definitely abuser and swayed the jury. And

512
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: so now they're going to have another trial and drop

513
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: the charges of her being guilty and then have a

514
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: new trial and I'm sure they'll pick the jersey and

515
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: she'll be scott free. Okay, well, got it, well said.

516
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: But that's interesting. If she was holding on to that hope,

517
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: why would she really? I mean, maybe the court will

518
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: just do it in that order anyway, but why say,

519
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: I'm not going to fight who it is anymore? Because

520
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: what happens if those names get released and then there's

521
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: a a follow up trial or maybe that will help

522
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: her in the long run. I think it will help

523
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: her in the long run. I mean I think there's

524
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: going to be a retrial. Yeah, I think so. And

525
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: what if the queen was one of the eight people,

526
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: that would be fun. He'd definitely be the oldest person

527
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: on that island by a mile. M I was, I mean,

528
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Betty White was also there,

529
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: but I was there. And this this is his out,

530
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, Louis, And why is everyone dying? Suddenly? It's

531
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: we're losing. Also, his name is like your name if

532
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: you did like an anagram of it. I know, I

533
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: get that. A lot of like dyslexic people are like, oh,

534
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: I clicked on this because I thought it was Norm.

535
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: Who's this douche? And I'm like, hey, I get it.

536
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: Norm's great, But yeah it is. Yeah, I can't believe

537
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: all these comedy legends are dying and also so young.

538
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: Sixty five Louise sixty six or something like that. Yeah,

539
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: Norm s two. It's crazy. What's going on? I thought

540
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: we're supposed to live longer now I know. I think

541
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: that they're probably just getting on the spaceship. I think

542
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: the chose about Peloton. That's my theory. A pulled to

543
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: Mr bigh So, Tom, Sorry, I don't know what we're saying.

544
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: Meat love died as well. He would do anything for

545
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: love except not dying. Yeah, exercise, I don't know, and

546
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: neat healthy. Yeah yeah, I don't. I don't know what.

547
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: It just feels like all these legends are just hitting

548
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: the Hey, it's kind of a weird feeling. I thought

549
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: earlier today and I was like, God, it feels like, oh,

550
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: the legends are dying now, and this is never happened

551
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: before in history. You know. It's funny. When Betty White died,

552
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 1: it was like, can you believe it? I'm like, yeah,

553
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: she's a hundred years old. She had a great run.

554
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Of course she did. Mark,

555
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: that's so insensitive. She was almost a hundred years old.

556
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: Good point, good point, She's right there. I just can't

557
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: believe already Laying is still going. That's the real shocker. Hilarious.

558
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: Good for him, you know it is. He takes care

559
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: of himself, right, He eats right, He doesn't put any

560
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: junk in his body. So yeah, exactly. I just think

561
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: it's odd we're not losing more comedians to the good

562
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: old fashioned white drugs and alcohol. Yeah, what the hell?

563
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: I think it's the booster. No, I'm just kidding. Kidding.

564
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: All right, I think it's time to move on to

565
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 1: my favorite case of the day. This is a really

566
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 1: odd story that honestly could have happened to any of us. Okay,

567
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: this woman made more than twenty fake Instagram accounts to

568
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 1: frame her ex boyfriend as a violent stalker, and she's

569
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: now in jail. I'm like, wait, is this about me? Okay? Uh,

570
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: not that I've done this. Okay. A twenty year old

571
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: British woman is behind bars finally, after she set up

572
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: more than twenty fake Instagram accounts in a bid to

573
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 1: frame her ex boyfriend as a violent stalker. Courtney Ireland

574
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: Ainsworth of Cheshire, England. Okay, it's like tell me you're

575
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: from the UK without telling me you're from the UK.

576
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: Fish and chips, bad teeth. Okay, Um, I'm like every

577
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: buzzword created as many as thirty fake profiles between July

578
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: and December, according to the Sun. The newspaper reported that

579
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: she used the accounts to send vile messages to herself

580
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: after she split with her former partner Louis Jolly. That's

581
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 1: a fake name, um, whose last name is Jolly? Yeah?

582
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: All right, I knew it. I knew really, Yeah, Kyle

583
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: jar he was okay um. So she'd been dating him

584
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 1: for two years, and she apparently made ten police reports

585
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: about her former partner during this time, including a report

586
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: that he sent a message threatening to stab her in

587
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: the chest, and then she involved her friends and family

588
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: in this lie, asking her mom to call the police

589
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: and report the fake threatening messages. Also, she claimed that

590
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: Jolly video and her walking on the street, harassing her friends,

591
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: smashing items in her house, and throwing a brick through

592
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: her grandma's window. Also, just I like that it's videoed

593
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: her walking on the street. It's like, okay um. He

594
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: was arrested six times because of these false allegations, and

595
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: he spent eighty one hours in custody, Not that long

596
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: if you asked me. He also lost his job following

597
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: assault and stocking charges, was placed on home curfew for

598
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: twelve hours a day, had to wear an electronic ankle tag,

599
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: and had a stalking protection order against him, and he maintained, yeah,

600
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: this is insane. He maintained his innocense the entire time.

601
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: It was eventually absolved in the guilt when detectives unraveled

602
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: her web of lives. The detectives requested user data from

603
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: meta a k Instagram revealed at least seventeen accounts were

604
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: created using her email addresses linked to her I P addresses,

605
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 1: which were connect to her home phone and cell phone.

606
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: And she's finally arrested in convested, convested to perverting the

607
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: court of justice. I like it, wow. I mean, I'm

608
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: glad justice was, sir, but I don't. I don't like

609
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: the story because I believe all women. So no, alright,

610
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm joking, but yeah, that's tough. I'm glad justice was, sir.

611
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: This lady's a coke. She's a cooke. I just wish

612
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: someone was this obsessed with me, right, I mean that

613
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: is twenty new followers, and I bet that they were

614
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: actively engaging with her content. Yes, you know, like I'm

615
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: a horror for comments. So if you could just increase

616
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: my following whatever you can do to get it up there,

617
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: and just book some more gigs. If any of my

618
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: exes are listening to this, uh, feel free to just,

619
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, make some fake accounts threaten my life

620
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: whatever feels good to you, you know. Yeah again, don't

621
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: take that literally, yeah, please, So I listen. I know,

622
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: I know when you're twenty, Like maybe you're not thinking straight.

623
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: You get all you know, worked up about a relationship.

624
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: But to be honest, and I know we're joking here,

625
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: could you ever see yourself taking those steps? Like that's

626
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: a long way to go to frame somebody and like

627
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: ruin his life strictly because what was it? Because he

628
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 1: broke up with her? Yeah, that's the new world order.

629
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: Now it's like it's all online. We should just key

630
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: a car. Whatever happened to key in a car? That

631
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 1: those that are throwing the clothes out of the window,

632
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: those days are over now you go digitally. I feel

633
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: like that'd go viral and TikTok. You saw someone throwing

634
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: clothes out the window? Oh yeah, yeah, that's a classic.

635
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: I mean, this is so crazy. I feel like this

636
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: is definitely not the only case like this. Oh yeah,

637
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: for sure, this is this is pretty common. I think

638
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: I think this is like one of millions. Definitely, definitely. Yeah.

639
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: I can't believe they haven't figured out that I wanted

640
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: them yet. I know, at please stop messaging me. Oh,

641
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: would do we consider this cat fishing? Oh? I guess so.

642
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: Do you think cat fishing should be a crime? But

643
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: this is catfishing to get someone in trouble, not really

644
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: to get late. Yeah that's not sexy alright, so we

645
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: know when you draw the line mark. Yes, yes, but yes,

646
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: I think if you're impersonating someone else with the tent

647
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: of getting someone in legal trouble or beyond, then yeah,

648
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: I think she's got it like this. It's insane. Yeah,

649
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: it's too much. I mean, I'm sure this guy went

650
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: through hell. I mean he had to stay home during

651
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: the pandemic like everyone else. He got some fancy ankle

652
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: jewelry out of it. Yeah, gods everyone lost their job.

653
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: Have some empathy. Um, but maybe he didn't get unemployment

654
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: like everyone else. And here he was in what he

655
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: was in, uh, in custody for eighty one hours, which

656
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: is a couple of your your drunk tanks right there.

657
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: So not that much. It's not fun. Yeah, No, I

658
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 1: do feel bad for him. This is horrible. She's obviously nutty.

659
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: I think if I grew up with social media, I

660
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: would have been in jail by now. Really, Like, I'm

661
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: really grateful that I didn't have Instagram I was twelve, same, same,

662
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: I feel the same that I'm glad you didn't as well.

663
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: Why what what would you we in jail for if

664
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: you've had Instagram or social media when you were younger?

665
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: Such a good question. Um, probably being too sexy, probably

666
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: being onst um. I don't know. I don't know, Dmitri.

667
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: I God, no one's gonna be able to hear this podcast.

668
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: Huh okay. I think I just think I honestly would

669
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: have not been able to handle any level of being

670
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: bullied on the internet. M H. I hate to say,

671
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: not to bring it down, but like suicide is way

672
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: up anxieties, we have depressions way up, and I think

673
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: it's all social media. Yeah, it has nothing to do

674
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: with the pandemic. I think it's even pre pandemic though. No,

675
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: it's true. I think I can't imagine being a young

676
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: girl girl like already going through puberty, trying an embraces

677
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: dealing with hormones and girls being mean to each other

678
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: and bullying each other in person, then then taking that

679
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: into social media. M hm. When I was a kid,

680
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: every every story was like these female magazines. They put

681
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 1: these models on the cover and it's with girls heads

682
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: or bar Harby is bad because it's a set of

683
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: unrealistic body standards. But now it's just kim Ka all day,

684
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: Instagram models t working booty stuff and I'm just talking

685
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: about my feed. But I can't even imagine what these

686
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: girls are going through. I remember when I was in

687
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: high school, I got emails from a fake account that

688
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: we're like I want to have sex with Leah blah

689
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: blah blah, and and it was also like she looks

690
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: like a gremlin, but I'd still have sex with her,

691
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: something that was so obviously written by a fourteen year

692
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: old boy, and my parents were so upset they called

693
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: the police over the email and tried to back down

694
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: the user. We originally like we finally found out who

695
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: it was, um, just because enough people, because literally what

696
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: happened is my parents called other people's parents demanding to

697
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: find out dahn. So that's how they found out, not

698
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: through the police. They found out by calling and being like, yeah,

699
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: well the police have never really been able to help

700
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: anyone solve a crime. But um, but but remember back

701
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: in the day, when you go to a o L,

702
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: you could see every account that that was signing in

703
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: from the screen, so it was like obvious to see

704
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: who it was. And that's how we found out who

705
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: it was. I would name him by first and last

706
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: name on this podcast, but let it just be a mystery.

707
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: It's Prince Andrew. It is Prince Andrew Andrew. Yeah, I

708
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: apparently like moved one of his stuffed animals and you

709
00:43:54,239 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: got really did you? Did you give a guy the business?

710
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: The kid who did it? M Um, yeah, I definitely

711
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: made out with him immediately. I don't think My bad,

712
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: my bad. All right, we're gonna dig a quick break

713
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: from all the laughter and before we move on to

714
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: our next case. Hello, everyone, welcome back to Real Time Crime.

715
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: Did you miss us? If the answer is no, just

716
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: you can stop listening. Um, my feelings are hurt. If

717
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 1: the answer is yes, keep yeah, yeah, I keep listening.

718
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: If the answer is yes, you're a normal, healthy, well

719
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: adjusted person, and we're not talking to the people who

720
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: didn't miss us anymore. This is my version of internet bullying.

721
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: All right, This next case is truly heartbreaking. So this

722
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: is the case Mark. I'm nervous. You can hear in

723
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: Mark's voice, She's like, Oh, I'm gonna feel bad making

724
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: fun of this person, whoever it is. The problem with

725
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: this case is that it feels too connected to Mark's background. Okay,

726
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: literally not his professional background, the background of his zoom. Okay,

727
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: hold on, Okay, this case is about Laurence smith Fields,

728
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: and if you are a very good social sleuth, you

729
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: already have heard her name. So Laurence smith Fields was

730
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,959
Speaker 1: found unresponsive in her Plymouth Street apartment in December twelve

731
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: and later died. The family said smith Fields met an

732
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: older white man on bumble and it was he who

733
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: alerted the police to her death. According to the report,

734
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: smith Fields had asked La found him this guy for

735
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: forty dollars for her nails and then to come meet

736
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: her at her Bridgeport residence where they took shots of tequila.

737
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: According to the East Apartment, smith Fields was drinking tequila

738
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: at her apartment with Matthew Lave Fountain. I feel like

739
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: it should be La Fintaine, Okay, the fountain when she

740
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: became ill and went to go vomit in the bathroom.

741
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: After she vomitted, she came back. They continued drinking tequila

742
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: with mixers. The two drank all the way into the

743
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: night when she got a text from someone which apparently

744
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: was her brother, and stepped outside. She went outside to

745
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: get something from him, and then when she came back

746
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: in she went to the bathroom for several minutes. After

747
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: she returned her dates, law Fountain told the officer that

748
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: he thought it was odd, but didn't feel it was

749
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: his place to say anything because he didn't know her

750
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: that well, and the police report states that smith Fields

751
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: and the man had continued to watch the movie, finished

752
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: the bottle tequila when she fell asleep on the couch,

753
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: and then he carried her to the bedroom. They both

754
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: went to sleep. At three am, he said he went

755
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 1: to use the bathroom and she was snoring. He woke

756
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: up at six thirty saying that she was laying on

757
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: her right side with blood coming out of her right

758
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: nostril and wasn't breathing, and that's when he called nine one.

759
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: Following the police arrival, the landlord was contacted, but he

760
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: didn't have any of her family's information, so it wasn't

761
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: until days later when Midfield's mom, Chantel Fields, went to

762
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: the apartment to see why she hadn't been answering numerous

763
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: calls and texts, and then, oh god, this is so heartbreaking.

764
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: The landlord put a note on her door that said,

765
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: if you're looking for Lauren, please contact this number. My

766
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: my heart would sink into my asshole if I heard that,

767
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: if I saw that note. So that's how the mom

768
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: found out that her daughter had passed away. Well, yeah,

769
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: and and and so she called the landlord, and that's

770
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: how she found out about her daughter's death. Okay. So,

771
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: nowhere in the police report did officers mentioned detaining the

772
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: Fountain for questioning, despite him being the last person who

773
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: saw smith Fields alive. So the family, by the way,

774
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: has filed a lawsuit the police department. They're saying that

775
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: they found a bunch of inconsistencies in the report, and

776
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: including that she was apparently intoxicated when she went outside

777
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: to go see her brother Lakim Jetter Jeter Jeddter. All right, Riley,

778
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Okay, Uh, including that, do you think

779
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: when God was giving the commandments, he was like, hold on,

780
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: go back. I didn't mean that that, okay, Including that

781
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: she was intoxicating when she went outside to go see

782
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: her brother Lakim, And apparently Leakim said that that's not true.

783
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: She wasn't intoxicated at all. Apparently they were exchanging clothes

784
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 1: of some like laundry situation. They talked for fifteen minutes

785
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: and he's he knows her super well, and he never

786
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: would have been okay with her being that drunk or

787
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: we've said something to her if he realized she was

788
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: super intoxicated. And it says that the police report doesn't

789
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: at all match the story of the last relative. The

790
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: family also said the police did not collect evidence in

791
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: the apartment. Mm. The mother went back to the apartment

792
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: and she said she found a condom with semen inside

793
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: her daughter's apartment, along with a pill that was unidentified

794
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: that they believed might be a sedative. They didn't test

795
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: any of the cups to see if it was liquor

796
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: or if there was anything inside of it. The first

797
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: night we saw cups there, flipped plates and lube. M hum, well,

798
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: you know um. And they also say that the Bridge

799
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: Pars police were super unprofessional in their handling of the investigation,

800
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: apparently Detective Cronin who said he would arrive in thirty minutes.

801
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: They waited over an hour for him to arrive, and

802
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: then they called him again and the family was told

803
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: to stop calling, and then they got him. You know,

804
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, who is this my mom? And then they

805
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: received a visit from the officer Garcia and Apparently when

806
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: he got there, the majority of the investigation had already

807
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: been completed, but so many things were a full it

808
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: and like there were dishes out, there were bloody sheets,

809
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: but everything had been like randomly packed and nothing was

810
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: really properly logged. And they also said that apparently Garcia

811
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: started talking shit about Detective Cronan, saying he was like

812
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: an asshole and this and that. But then when they

813
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: went to go get they got interrogated the police station.

814
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: Apparently he was like, I would never say this about Cronan.

815
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 1: Are you saying I'm a liar? So he was playing

816
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: both sides of the coin. Okay, The families bringing an

817
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: independent agencies to handle the investigation, and apparently the Bridgeport

818
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: Police department is riddled with problems the last two years,

819
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: including the former police chief, Armando Perez, was sentenced to

820
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: prison last year for rigging his own hiring process to

821
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: ensure he became the city's top cop. I mean that's motivation,

822
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: That's that's like dedication raft. Yeah, I mean we should

823
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 1: all have that sort of sticktuitiveness and drive, you know. Sure. Um, anyway,

824
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: this is a pretty tragic case obviously, and apparently when

825
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: the family went there, they saw that there was in

826
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: fact blood in the center of her bed that was

827
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: then fading out to the right side. So they don't

828
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: really believe that she was just on the bed with

829
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: blood coming out of her nose, because why would it

830
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: all be in the center of the bed. And uh,

831
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: this is a story that we are very confused about

832
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: because there's been so little press on the case and

833
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: it seems like it has lacked any sort of proper investigation. Basically,

834
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: her family at the end of the month had to

835
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: go pack up the whole apartment and that's when they

836
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: found most of the evidence themselves. Um, there's not a

837
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: lot of awareness. People are saying that, just like the

838
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: Gabby Potito case, maybe social media can bring more of

839
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: this to light. Uh huh, No, there's the guy. There's

840
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 1: no closure here, no closure. Wow, it's clearly that guy

841
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: who went on the date. I mean, that guy's something right. Yeah. Well,

842
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: so apparently the police department didn't interrogate him or bring

843
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: him in for questioning because they thought he was quote

844
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: a nice guy. Nice guys don't make crimes. Yeah, obviously,

845
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I I'm this is gonna answer itself. But

846
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: it's like how do you get that? We already know

847
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: the guy got himself to be the top cop that

848
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: went to jail, But like, how do you become police?

849
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: Police officers? How do you how is your job to

850
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: go when someone is murdered, there's a crime, to go

851
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: there and not follow these basic steps which were just

852
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: regular everyday people here are sitting here, We've watched you know,

853
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: crime shows and documentaries. It's you're not You don't have

854
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: to be a genius to know like, oh, don't touch anything,

855
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: pick this up, look around, like none of that ship

856
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: was done. It seems like that's just a really corrupt

857
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: police department and everyone's trying to be the top cop.

858
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: I think it's actually a new reality show. Next top.

859
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 1: I'm more of a power bottom. But either way, yeah,

860
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: this is super shady. And here's the problem with police.

861
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: Police are like the post office, you know, their government run,

862
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: so there's no competition. Like that's why the post office sucks.

863
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: You go to fed X, you go to d h

864
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: L or whatever the hell it is. You know, we

865
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: have no alternative for police, so there's no competition. Yeah,

866
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: I bet they'd solve it in two days. Well, and

867
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: that's the thing you kill like you can hire a

868
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 1: private investigator, but you can't hire them and be like

869
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: get there before the police and pick up all right, exactly,

870
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: we gotta get Dog the bounty hunter on this. Now

871
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: we're talking. That's a good call. Okay, hold on, I

872
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: think you guys need to see a photo of this

873
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: man first of all, because I'm starting to see a

874
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: through line of recent murderers. Oh sorry, alleged murders. Here

875
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: we go. This is gonna look like me. Is this

876
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: another bald guy with a beard whoa Dmitri? I can

877
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: see it. I have some questions about where you were

878
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: in early December. Come out listen to Brian Laundry thing.

879
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: Maybe you could be like I think I saw him.

880
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: There's no way this number one. I don't have that

881
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: kind of build to this guy's. You know, now, can

882
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: I see you with your wire frame glasses? Please? Also,

883
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: is this not exactly what Brian Laundry looks like? But older? Well,

884
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: I mean here's in like a camping and camping gear

885
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: and ship like that. So yeah, and he's look. I

886
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: understand that you're getting upset because you're like, not all

887
00:54:54,640 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: bald men with beards look alike, but don't they I

888
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: don't camp. So I think that kind of clears me

889
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: of of being too associated with these guys. Oh my god, right, okay, yeah,

890
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: but but I don't. I don't like I I just

891
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: think like ladies. You know, if you're swiping on a

892
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: dating app, maybe just say swipe left on a guy

893
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: who looks like this. You know what, I'm glad I'm

894
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: married because right now you're tanking every bald guy with

895
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: a beard on a dating app. Wait still, you see

896
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: my crowd work. Just don't sit in the front row,

897
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: you know, don't sit in the front row if you

898
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: don't want me to ruin your relationship. I don't know.

899
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: I okay. So, so does this feel like a cautionary

900
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: tale for dating app users? Of course, yeah. I think

901
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: inviting someone over the first night it's a little nutty,

902
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: then straight to tequila. The whole thing is a is

903
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: a recipe for disaster. Mark would no drinking. Yes, it's

904
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: never done well for him. And look, I'm I'm in

905
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 1: a relationship now. But I did I fair share bumbling

906
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: and uh it was pretty rare to get straight to

907
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: the apartment. Also that she asked him for money too,

908
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: for her nails beforehand. Yes, yes, fishy, what's going on here? Yeah?

909
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: I don't know the whole thing, like how do you

910
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: how do you ever piece this together? Like it's it's

911
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: odd from the start, and then there was such sloppy

912
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: follow up to it, like I mean, unless they can,

913
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, find a way and get this guy to

914
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: answer questions or to trace something back like the woman

915
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: with the twenty Instagram things, to be able to trace

916
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: certain things back to somebody. But I don't think the

917
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: necessary steps were taken in order to in order to

918
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: do stuff like that. Absolutely not. And I think that

919
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: there was some sort of inconsistency with them saying the

920
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: autopsy had been completed and then suddenly the autopsy wasn't

921
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: completed and they're gonna do more research on it. And

922
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: I do believe that if anyone is going to get

923
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: this case moving again, it's going to be TikTok. Yeah,

924
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: I agree. I think this is Uh, there's gotta be

925
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: some fettan al here. Oh you think so? Oh? Yeah?

926
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: I think he he drugged her and overdid it, or

927
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: maybe the brother gave her some blow something. Something's going

928
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: on here with drugs. Yeah, And and there's there's something

929
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: with drugs. Yeah, definitely. Well he stood out and stood

930
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: that when you said they were drinking tequila, she went

931
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: and threw up, came back, and then they drank tequila

932
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: with mixers. Yes, to be fair, I've definitely been too drunk, vomited,

933
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: came back and was like yeah, maybe you know um,

934
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: and this is why I don't drink anymore. But do

935
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: you know how you quit? You know, I took like

936
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: a seven year absence. Hey, good for you. I'm not

937
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: I'm not like sober, but I do understand that it

938
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: doesn't align with me for seven year absence from drinking

939
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: or like you blacked out for seven years. Well, yeah,

940
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: I did, just wake up from a coma and wondering

941
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: how I got into this podcast. I think the thing

942
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: that really upset me the most is when I woke

943
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: up on the floor of a frat house and one

944
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: hand was covered in salsa and the other hand was

945
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: covered in antela ha, And I was like, I gotta

946
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: quit drinking. Um, just just imagining myself going back and

947
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: forth between like sweet and salty. Yeah, you got a

948
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: good palette, a lot of range there. It was like

949
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: the fat It's like the boys in the frat house,

950
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: were like, don't she's got bigger fish to fry, you

951
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: know on that one. You have a condom? No, but

952
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: I have condiments. Whatever you need, I got it. Oh boy. Yeah.

953
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: Then I I remember waking up at around uh four

954
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: in the morning, five in the morning, hopping out the

955
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: window the door didn't seem appropriate, and then passing out

956
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: on my front lawn. That that was covered morning. Do

957
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: when I woke up at nine am? Damn, your dad's

958
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: just mowing the lawn around you, and and what And

959
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: from that you stopped drinking. I mean, no, no, no,

960
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: I drank for many years. That boy. We're one the same,

961
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: We're cover from the same cloth. I know, you know,

962
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: I just I was so much more fun when I drank. Same. Well,

963
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: it's like, I'll use Jim Jeffrey's joke. No great story

964
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: started with I had a salad. Yeah, And I assume Mark,

965
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: you still drink because the sunglasses are not because you're

966
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: they're not blue blockers. It's not you're worried about the

967
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: race from your computer. Right now, I am. I'm hurting

968
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I haven't Syracuse and there's really

969
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: nothing else to do, so I'm so lonely and on

970
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: the road, so I had to had to tie one on.

971
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: I feel like we're stopping you from starting up again.

972
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: No oh, I got a few hours. This podcast is

973
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: the exact reason to start drinking, in my opinion. Yeah,

974
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: it's very sad because of the because of the the news,

975
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: right yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, okay, not because of

976
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: my dating history, although also very sad. Do you think

977
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: we have time for the voicemail? I think we should

978
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: do it. I don't think we have time for the voicemail,

979
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: dmitri No, what if we have to find extra time

980
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: on our hands. I don't know. We keep telling people

981
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: to call in, but then you know what, You're right,

982
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right, you're right. Riley, quick, quick, quickly

983
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: play the voicemail. I think we deserve to hear it.

984
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: And if it's something that we just can't tackle today,

985
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: we'll tackle next week. But at least, let's play the voicemail.

986
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: And I want to say thank you to everyone who

987
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: calls in and leaves the white smails that we never

988
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: get to. We don't want to trigger your abandonment issues,

989
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: but all right, Riley, play the voicemail. Please, guys. Um,

990
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, I love your podcast super great. Have

991
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: you guys considered talking about the Tamala Horsford case. She

992
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: was a Georgia mother who went to a football sleepover

993
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: with a bunch of other football moms who mysteriously died.

994
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: And it's not everything was ruled an accident, but there

995
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: was some evidence that has mysteriously gone missing. It's just

996
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: super sketchy. Thanks. Fine, I've never heard that one, NOA.

997
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: I've also never heard of like a football mom sleepover,

998
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: but I think I think we should look into that

999
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: for next time. I mean, when we say football mom,

1000
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: do we mean like in the British sense, likes this

1001
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:53,439
Speaker 1: soccer the European where we're talking about American football. Yeah,

1002
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: we have soccer moms. Why not football mom? I think

1003
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: it makes sense. All right, we got some football moms

1004
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: in the house, all right, So we'll dive into that

1005
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: case next time. Thank you for calling in, and again

1006
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: you can call us live at eight six six one crime.

1007
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: That's eight six six to anyone crime, six six to

1008
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: anyone crime. That's eight six six two one two seven

1009
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: four six three. You know, if you've got a question

1010
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: comment concerned case that we should look into like football, mom,

1011
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: which we certainly will. And Mark, any final thoughts today,

1012
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: this is probably not at all what you expected, not

1013
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: at all. I have to ask anyone else hard. I mean,

1014
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: all this murder talks really got me going. No, thanks

1015
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: for having me. It's great to see it, Dmitri. Good

1016
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: to meet you. Just super fun and enlightening, and it

1017
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: kind of helps you not feel like a weirdo. Sometimes

1018
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I'm a psycho, and then you hear

1019
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: about these other people and you're like, I'm doing okay. Wow,

1020
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that this made you feel better about

1021
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: your life. That's what this is. This isn't even a podcast, Lee.

1022
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: It was like, my buddy Marks a little down on himself.

1023
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: Can we just fake a podcast and share him up? Yeah?

1024
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: Okay guys, yeah, Cut, thank you so much. I really

1025
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming in today, but you know, the gig's up. Um. Yeah.

1026
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: This is actually an inspirational podcast on how to feel

1027
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: better about yourself. Mark. Remember there's people worse than you

1028
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: out there, and Mark feel better. Where can we find

1029
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: you on the internet. Hey, I'm all over the place,

1030
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: out to the lunch on YouTube. I gotta have my

1031
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: own YouTube channel, Instagram at Mark Norman, Twitter at Mark

1032
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: Norm Mark Norman Comedy dot com. For dates, check out

1033
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: dates with Mark. Um, he's taking ladies hands off. I'm

1034
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: so sorry. Yeah, and you Mark, you're on tour right,

1035
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm on tour every weekend. I'm sure I'm coming to

1036
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: your town. So check out those dates and say hello. Yeay,

1037
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: so go check out Mark. He's hilarious. He'll probably be

1038
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: wearing sunglasses and no, I'm not blind. You're the Stevie

1039
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: Wonder of comedy. Yeah, come say hello and uh yeah

1040
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: we'll go gay comedy. Okay, all right, I mean, look,

1041
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: you guys, if if you don't like to laugh, don't

1042
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: listen to the podcast. And that's our tagline. What's something

1043
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,919
Speaker 1: that should be a crime that's not a crime? Mm hmm,

1044
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: good question. Um calling me before noon farting in an

1045
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 1: elevator with other people, I'm definitely guilty of that one.

1046
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: That's a that's punishable by death, I think, yeah, crime

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Speaker 1: punishable by death. Also, Mark, just so you know, Teddy

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Speaker 1: has never been able to get me to wake up

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Speaker 1: at ten am to do this podcast and should be

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Speaker 1: furious should it was midnight? Yes? All right. Well, this

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Speaker 1: has been an amazing episode of Real time crime with

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Speaker 1: our guests Hot Today, Mark Norman, Mark, I love you,

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming on. Go see Mark shows. He's

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Speaker 1: on tour. He's hilarious, as you heard here today. And

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Speaker 1: I've been Lee Omar, that's been sometimes. Dmitri who was

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Speaker 1: a lot of times Dmitri today, and we'll see you

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Speaker 1: next week. I love you all. Stay safe. Bye. It's

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Speaker 1: real time Rod, it's real time Grady. I mean, is

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Speaker 1: it actually real time crime? I'm solving anything? Or is

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Speaker 1: that just the thing we stay it's a thing we say,

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Speaker 1: got it? Okay, See you next week for more real

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Speaker 1: time crime, only on I Horror Radio.