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Speaker 1: and geeks. What's up? James co here on the NFL

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Live Podcast, joined by my guys MG Marcus Grant.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Hey, Congrats on the Dubs. He's not good. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm relieved, I'm excited. I am not counting this

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Speaker 1: as it's not a championship. They've got four more wins.

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Speaker 1: That was the championship. They've got they need four. It's

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Speaker 1: cute that Cleveland's gonna show up in what they're called

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Speaker 1: all in the NBA Finals. We watched the NBA Finals,

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Speaker 1: a seven game series legendary. It was epic. In the

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Speaker 1: first five minutes of this game of Game seven, I

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Speaker 1: turned to my wife, I'm like, Yo, this is gonna

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Speaker 1: be an instant classic. You know, I will tell you this. Um,

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Speaker 1: this sort of feels like, you know, when I was

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Speaker 1: Championship game, and pretty much whoever won that game was

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Speaker 1: going to win the Super Bowl. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say this feels like that. It feels like this sort

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Speaker 1: of feels like that. A question frequently address your wife

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Speaker 1: I do that doesn't surprise me. I called my baby dude,

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Speaker 1: So she's starting to pick that up a little bit,

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Speaker 1: which is great. Uh. And yes, I I do turn

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Speaker 1: to my wife actually quite frequently and say, yo, um,

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Speaker 1: we've got Alex Kalhard, the wis kid from Wisconsin. What's up? Hey,

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Speaker 1: we got a special guest today house Liz Losa. What's up, James.

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Speaker 1: We have never met. I'm a fan of your work.

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Speaker 1: You do great work over at Yahoo's Sports. You do

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Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. There a little print, little

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Speaker 1: on camera. Uh, multi hyphen it and as they call it, right,

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Speaker 1: gotta be you gotta be multiple as uh. As Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick would say. Uh. The host of your very own podcast,

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Speaker 1: the XS and Wise Podcast, in a former right for

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Speaker 1: U Scout Fantasy. So yeah, welcome to the show. I

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Speaker 1: think you are our first like non employee, uh in

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Speaker 1: studio again studio, since we rebooted this about a year ago.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to say she's our first. Uh, I want

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Speaker 1: to say she's our first guest ever for the combine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, does does harmon count franchises. But we're trying.

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Speaker 1: like make people realize think we're not just gonna tank

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Speaker 1: now after we had our exciting first the test because

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Speaker 1: it's June. Yeah, you're like, oh, we just gotta throwing Coppy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, we get rid of percacious kid. That's a

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Speaker 1: very good point, very good point. Or what's really happening

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Speaker 1: is that Adam Rank doesn't incredible Uh Liz Low's impersonation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's really knocking it out of the park right now,

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Speaker 1: really doing well. No, but Adam Rank not joining us today.

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Speaker 1: But that's Okay, we're gonna be talking about his sleepers,

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Speaker 1: are gonna be talking about some guys that I've pegged

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Speaker 1: as possible Fantasy busts. A lot of hate rade in

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Speaker 1: to that's a treat before daily DAP, little teasy daily

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Speaker 1: The camera highlights in the world of sports. Freaking breaking

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Speaker 1: news continue to follow breaking this news has your wife

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Speaker 1: consensus top ten pick Ezekiel Elliott and Fantasy is in

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Speaker 1: a quote competition for his job. How concerned are you?

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Speaker 1: Zero percent? Uh? On a scale of one zero to

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Speaker 1: And I mean I thought I thought it was cute though,

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Speaker 1: But again, if I were to bump anybody, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be Duke Johnson. But overall, the offense just looks like garbage.

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Speaker 1: the way, Liz, look there's no Adam Rank here, and

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Speaker 1: end of the year, I think Clive Walford and and

424
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Speaker 1: Derek Carr had built a nice little rapport going UM

425
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, an athletic tight end with a young quarterback,

426
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Speaker 1: is that not? Pete and Jay sounds like a pretty

427
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: good combination in my book, So I'll take it. And

428
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 1: for the record, Derek Carr is on Rank Sleeper's list

429
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 1: for those that are listening at home, he's one of

430
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: one of the guys on here as well. I will

431
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: give you a full list. How about Derek Carr, Clive Walford,

432
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler, Jay a Giant, Jeo, Bernard, Duke Johnson, Matt Jones,

433
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 1: who I know you guys hate Davante Parker like a

434
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 1: strong Justin Hardy, Richard Matthews, Austin Seferian Jenkins, Jared Cook,

435
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: Jags D. Okay, so now a couple of these scream

436
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: Adam right one, Jags Jags D and Jay Cutler him

437
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 1: being the Bears. Wait is you're a Bears fan? Right?

438
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 1: If I'm wrong? All right, we'll give us reason for

439
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 1: to believe in Jay Cutler and fantasy if you can

440
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: this year. That is not a possibility, all rum can

441
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: I I would like to kind of refute when I

442
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: know Ranks, Austin Seferian Jenkins, and you know, maybe this

443
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 1: is maybe this is camp hype me, this is a

444
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 1: a smoke screen hype train sort of situation. But the

445
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: reports early have been Dirk Cutter talking up Cameron Bright

446
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: a little bit and saying that he's really gonna challenge

447
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 1: Safari and Jenkins for snaps and targets this year. And

448
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: you know Braight was one of those guys who he

449
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: was kind of those one week wonders last year. He

450
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: might have a touchdown here that that helps No. One.

451
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: I think he did one of that helps No One

452
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: last year. Um, but now you know, Dirk Cutter is

453
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 1: saying that maybe he's worthy of a larger role in

454
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: the offense. And you know, we know a s J

455
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 1: has I mean he said he hasn't really broken out yet,

456
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 1: not that it's necessarily his fault, but um, it's just

457
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: it's one more guy to add to the mix there

458
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: that makes me a little nervous about him. Well, and

459
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 1: how much of that is motivational speak for Cotter right,

460
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: Carter wants him to take the next step. But I'm

461
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: with you because I think that as g is one

462
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: of those constant hype train players that we are waiting

463
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 1: to see something additional happening. Vincent Jackson's gonna fall off

464
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: and it's going to be the report between We just

465
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: made the point right between carn and Walford, young quarterback

466
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: tight end a security blanket. But we have to remember

467
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: also that a s J is young as well in

468
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: his development. Um so they've got two other big time

469
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: targets there. I mean, that's that's kind of the problem.

470
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: And plus their feed and Doug Martin too well, and

471
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: and Charles Sims And so when you look at a

472
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: sjsum ADP he's going in the end of the twelfth round.

473
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: You could have a round later at the eighth spot

474
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Speaker 1: of the thirteenth round live Walford, or you could have

475
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Speaker 1: Jordan Cameron. I want to throw this name out, Jordan Cameron.

476
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Speaker 1: You just mentioned Adam Gaze and his ability to elevate

477
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 1: an entire offense. He did it for Jake Cutler, which

478
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 1: is why I don't see Jay Cutler improving going at

479
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: the end of the fourteenth round. I know Jordan Cameron's

480
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: another one of those guys, man, I really, I really

481
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: want to follow you down that road. I just I've

482
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: been heartbroken. You know he's right, but that's the burn factor.

483
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 1: That's why you take the value. Fredo, you broke my heart.

484
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many times I've been like

485
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: an MFL tad so far or a mock draft, and

486
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: I've looked at Jordan Cameron and I've like hovered then

487
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 1: and I could come back around later, because that's a good,

488
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: very good point as a fellow trojan, Like I really

489
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: want to, and I just I just can't. Maybe he's

490
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: the next in line after Kelsey, by the way, the

491
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: next like handsome tight End to get his own dating

492
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: hell be the new Bachelor speaking dude tight Ends. But

493
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean, really, though Kelsey, I can't. I cannot invest

494
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: in Kelsey because because he has a reality he's got

495
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: the reality show. He signed that fat contract. By the way,

496
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 1: that happened within twenty four hours of each other, right, Like,

497
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: he signed the fat contract and twenty four hours later

498
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: they announced that he's gonna have a reality dating show

499
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: with fifty women. Well, I'm sure that will turn out

500
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: way yea, let's get side note. I was at Keiwami

501
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: Sushi place in Studio City having having lunch and to

502
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: reality exacts were sitting next to me, and they were

503
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: talking about this really handsome tight End he's from, like

504
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: um where they do that good barbecue. Oh yeah, and

505
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be this amazing show. We're really excited, like yes,

506
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: it's a bachelor platform. And I was just listening to

507
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: them gossip about it and talk about it, and the

508
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: show looks just awful, like just awful. Even listening to

509
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: the exact try to hype it. It looks awful. Um.

510
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: But Kelsey, though, here's the thing coming off of the microfractory, Like,

511
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: let's give him a little leeway. That's a hard injury

512
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 1: to come back from. Um. But then last year we

513
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: thought he'd have this baby Gronk type explosion. It didn't happen.

514
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: Rumors that he couldn't pick up the playbook. Maybe from

515
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: the neck up. He's got something going on. So, UM,

516
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to happen, Like is

517
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: he Jason Morrow dumb? Like? Is that I don't have

518
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: to see these guys in the halls? Like very good,

519
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: very good point. I like it. So anyway, Kelsey interesting

520
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: to invest in. Um, he's going in the sixth round. Yeah, exactly.

521
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: I think I think it's too high. I think last

522
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: year everybody wanted the breakout. He still had a solid

523
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: season last year, it wasn't the expectations everybody wanted. The

524
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: disappointment came because his numbers, you were almost identical to

525
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: the year before. Somebody's expect exactly. So now we kind

526
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: of we know who he is, and if you draft

527
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: him appropriately, I think he can be a fine value

528
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 1: later rounds. I ain't like I'm with you and I'm

529
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: not taking him in the sixth round. There you go,

530
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: all right? Should we talk about bus or should talk

531
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: about other Yes, let's let's get to your list. Like

532
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, here's the thing. I get it. A

533
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: little bit of uh Silkie Johnson here I'm hating. Okay,

534
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: I get it. I did appreciate that reference. And uh,

535
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: if you if you don't know that, good google it

536
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 1: or or as Rank always says. And I think this

537
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: is just him being a hipster, but it works for Liz.

538
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: He who that kids saw who that asked Jeeves that,

539
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: Um here's the bus list DeVante Freeman, mark Ingram, Brandon

540
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: Marshall to Marco Murray, Jamal Charles, Jonathan Stewart, Jeremy Hill,

541
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon, t J. Yelden And can I ask you

542
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: an immediate question, yes, does your Brandon Marshall pick change

543
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 1: if Ryan Fitzpatrick re signs it doesn't really And I

544
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,959
Speaker 1: addressed that in the piece as well. It's just for me.

545
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: A lot of it is just based off of regression.

546
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy had a career high uh in

547
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: touchdowns last year. I cannot imagine at his age, uh

548
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: that him repeating that he was also he almost set

549
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: a career high end yardage as well. Um, I think

550
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna be looking at a regression. I mean, he

551
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: had double digit touchdowns, which is great for him. But

552
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: I mean, quite honestly, if you were to project out

553
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall today, I mean, what are you projecting? Eight?

554
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: I think that sounds about right for Brandon Marshall. And

555
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: that's a huge regression, uh in terms of fantasy points.

556
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: And that's the that's the reason why I say Brandon

557
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 1: Marshall is is primed to disappoint this year. All right,

558
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: fair enough, that's my that's my only I don't know.

559
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I do agree that there's probably some

560
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: touchdown regression coming. I think though, if there's gotta be well, yeah,

561
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean it was a big number. But I think

562
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: if Fitzpatrick comes back, I still think he and Eric Decker,

563
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Derek Decker is kind of a high at

564
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: his best, a high end wide receiver to even a

565
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: fringe wide receiver one And I think I think with

566
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick back, I think they stay there. I think Brandon

567
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: Marshall is kind of a mid to low level wide

568
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: receiver one prospect. The thing with Fitzpatrick that people love

569
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: from a fantasy perspective and not so much from real

570
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: life is that he really locks into one or two

571
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: guys and that's it. I mean, he just force feeds.

572
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're double cover, trip cover, doesn't matter.

573
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: He's going to force feed that rock. Well as long

574
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: as that guy's on my team. No, no, I and

575
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: I get that. We saw that in Houston when he

576
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: was just I mean just pounding DeAndre Hopkins with with targets.

577
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: And then we saw that again last year. It was

578
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: really a two person wide receiver attack, right, I mean

579
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: they didn't really have a third option. But what about

580
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: if Devin Smith develops a bit that, no, he's not

581
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 1: gonna he's not gonna eat into their production. Yet he

582
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: was injured a lot, and they went and drafted another

583
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: deep threat in the draft this year, and uh, did

584
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: they take Sharon Peak or Koby listening to you forgetting

585
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: which one they took, But they took somebody that's a

586
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: deep threat. Let me double, let me look that up

587
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: real quick either way. UM, I just think like it

588
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: was peaked, Okay. I think the I think the ceiling

589
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: is is okay. I don't think it's great, and I

590
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: think the floor could just absolutely fall apart. Whenever I

591
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: look at these bust lists, that's what I look at.

592
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: I look at the floor, and for me, so the

593
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: the guys that are on this list have scary, scary

594
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: low floors. That's what I look at. So then, James,

595
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: I have a question because I admitted earlier that I

596
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: think Brandon Marshall is in for a regression. Keenan Allen's

597
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: going about the same place and drafts now obviously red flags, upside,

598
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 1: lots of upside, right. I think he had an average

599
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: eleven targets per game last season when he was healthy.

600
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: So would you rather have Keenan Allen or Brandon Marshall even,

601
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: I mean, for multiple reasons, one of mcaal guy, but

602
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: two younger, more athletic dude right now in his career. Um,

603
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: And I think again we talked about teams being behind.

604
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: I think San Diego is going to be an absolute

605
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: train wreck this year. I think they're gonna have to

606
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: pass Um Melvin Gordon's also on this list. He's not

607
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: the answer, obviously, and I think Philip Rivers is basically

608
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: going to say, all right, listen man, you know. And

609
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: the other thing too. They lost Ladarius Green, which doesn't

610
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: necessarily make a difference for um, you know, Antonio Gates

611
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: or whatever it might be. But I do think when

612
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: you lose an athlete on the side, on that side

613
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: of the ball, um other guys who are Keenan Allen

614
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: is an okay athlete, above average athlete. He's not a

615
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: great athlete, but I'll tell you what, he's one of

616
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: the best athletes they got on that offense, which is

617
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: not great, but they're gonna throw the ball a lot.

618
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: No love for don Dontrelle Hernon don or put them together. Hey,

619
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: they went and got Travis Benjamin now and they've got this.

620
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: They got Stevie Johnson there still. But all right, let's okay,

621
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: hold on, I gotta jump into once here on the

622
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: bus list, and Marks and I were trying to surmise

623
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: quick before I came up here to the podcast. Maybe

624
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: this player just beat up on cal back in college,

625
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: and that's why James has suter rational hate for him.

626
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: But it's Jonathan Stewart. We actually went to his game

627
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: logs and we're like, okay, we played Cal three times.

628
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: Still an old girlfriend. Why here's my thing. I don't

629
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: understand the love for Jonathan Stewart. I think he's um.

630
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: I think he absolutely overachieved last year, which is fine,

631
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: which is great. But the reason he's on the bus

632
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: list is because I just think he's being crazy overdrafted,

633
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: crazy overdrafted. In thirteen games, he he had nine eighty

634
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: nine rush yards and just ninety nine receiving yards. Okay,

635
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 1: this is a guy we love. I don't get that

636
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: he had seven touchdowns. This is his ceiling, guys, this

637
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: is his ceiling. I think his floor is much lower.

638
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I think his floor is somewhere like seven hundred.

639
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: And this is if he plays twelve to to fourteen games,

640
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: because we know he's not playing sixteen, all right. If

641
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: he plays twelve to fourteen games something like, I don't know,

642
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: eight hundred yards and five touchdowns, I think that's I

643
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: think that's a reasonable projection for him. I don't want

644
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: to invest in that as as an RB two in

645
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: the fifth round though. In the fifth that's that's what

646
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm talking about in the fifth round. There's no chance

647
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: in hell I'm taking a guy who I think whose

648
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: ceiling is tw is ten fifty and seven touchdown, that's

649
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: his ceiling the year he had last year. There's no

650
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: way in hell he's doing I mean, he's coming off

651
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: the board around the same spot as Jeremy Hill. Ryan Matthews.

652
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: I mean, gim me Ryan Matthews all day long. I

653
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: would probably, I think I might take Ryan Matthews a

654
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: hair over Jonathan Stewart. But he's a guy that, like

655
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: you mentioned, because I was editing your piece before we

656
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: came up here too, you mentioned Cameron Artist Pain. He's

657
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: really not a threat for touches. Why this is Stewart's backfield?

658
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: Why why is Camerons paining not? It's like a fifth

659
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: round draft pick who did nothing as it showed nothing

660
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: as a rookie. He had forty five carry, he had

661
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: that he had the chance to take over the backfield

662
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: while they put Stewart on the shelf down the stretch

663
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: before the playoffs, and he did not. I think, look,

664
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart, what ninth NFL season, twenty nine years old.

665
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: The guys had an unbelievable history of injuries. And again

666
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: when you're saying even when healthy games he put up

667
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: tenft not yards, seven touchdowns when healthy, he's twenty nine

668
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: years old, when extensive injury history, you want to spend

669
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: the fifth round pick on that dome for an RB two,

670
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely pass all day. Let's let's what's your take on

671
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: Jonathan Well? This is a player that I'm not particularly

672
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: passionate about. I'll be legit, but I think that the

673
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: fact that you haven't mentioned the fact that Cam cam

674
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: Newton is gonna vulture him consistently at the goal line.

675
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: And if I'm playing in a standard scoring league again,

676
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: I want those TVs, especially from my running back, because

677
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: that's where you're going to get out of your points.

678
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: So to me, that does knock him down a bit.

679
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: Um And you've got as um Marcus already said Jeremy Hill,

680
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: and Ryan Matthews going around the same spot. J GI,

681
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: he's going around the same spot. Melvin Gordon is going

682
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: just slightly after. And I don't want to jump ahead

683
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: unless we're done with this j stude talk, because I

684
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: think that this is not a bust. I think this

685
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: is a bounce back. We've got We've got companions on

686
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: the side of the table over there. Will just let

687
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,239
Speaker 1: me let me one thing before we move on. Uh,

688
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, Liz, that, like Cam is the biggest

689
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: red zone threat to him. We have to think at

690
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: a certain point they're gonna stop putting their hundred million

691
00:33:54,840 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: dollar quarterback in on goal line career. He's you, He's

692
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: a human tank like the guys. Jase Due did get

693
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: a few more carries in the red zone last year,

694
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: so I'm encouraged. And it was his stretch from week

695
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: five to twelve before he got injured where he had

696
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: over twenty carries in every game. If I'm getting an

697
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: RB two, I at least want to know he has

698
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: a safe workload. So that's that's why I like him

699
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: in that range. But where are you gonna add a

700
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: counter to the camp thing or No? I think he's

701
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: indestructible there, I mean the truck right right, exactly. I

702
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: mean he's unbelievable. Yeah, No, I I think Kelvin Benjamin

703
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: coming back. Also is a lot of red zone targets

704
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: being taken. Greg Olsen still there. I just don't see

705
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: a lot of upside um. I'll give you that He's

706
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: not a super high ceiling guy. But if if I'm

707
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: taking shots and somebody's gonna at least give me consistent

708
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: R B two production, I I like Jase doing that range.

709
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: Like I said, if he plays, I think if he

710
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: plays ten games next year, I'd be pretty happy. But

711
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take a guy who's gonna play ten

712
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: games and again a ceiling of seven touchdowns in the

713
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: fifth round. I'm just not gonna do it. Um let

714
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: alone the six. I mean maybe in the seventh now

715
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: and I'll start considering, But in the fifth, no way,

716
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: absolutely not. But let's talk about Melvin Gordon. Yeah, why

717
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: is he? Why does he deserve not to be on

718
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: this wants to start micro frash. See that's the thing

719
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: that worries me because I was all about the Melvin

720
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: Gordon bounce back season this year, and I really thought

721
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 1: he was going to be better. And I really thought

722
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: that the Chargers have to figure out something to establish

723
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: the run. I mean, last year they couldn't run at all.

724
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: They've got to figure out some way to get a going.

725
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: I really thought this is gonna be the year Melvin Gordon,

726
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: a year of experience. Uh, you know, hopefully, you know,

727
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: has gotten better. I thought this was gonna be it.

728
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: The micro fracture thing scares me a little bit, but

729
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: I do think, I do think, you know, the least,

730
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: the opportunity will be there, and whether or not he

731
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: takes advantage of it's going to be a different story.

732
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, people talk about that opportunity

733
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: and it's funny. I funny hearing about the how much

734
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: opportunity and volume he's gonna get in this particular room

735
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: when you guys freaking love Danny. I'm the only one

736
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: on the Melvin Gordon trains. I may be a guest,

737
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: but I am totally a right appreciate it. I'm not

738
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: alone the point that no one is bringing up San

739
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: Diego worried about the microfracture because they didn't address their

740
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: backfield in the draft. They didn't address it in the

741
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: free agency period. And what did they do in the draft? Instead?

742
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: They went out and got baby wat Derek who is

743
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: a full black and full back and blocked for Gordon

744
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: where at Wisconsin roommates. It's interesting, So they're giving this

745
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: guy every opportunity. Maybe it blows up in everyone's face,

746
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: but I will take the guy that the team is

747
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: all in on. Absolutely, especially in the sixth round. It's

748
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: it's a good point connections. I think that was something

749
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: they realized is that Gordon was accustomed to running with

750
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: a full back and then the single back sets behind.

751
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: As you mentioned your piece, that just decimated offensive line offense.

752
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: It was it was not good for I mean watching

753
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: watching watching charges tape last year, like those poor running

754
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: backs got hit in the backfield from so off? Can

755
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: I take this time to throw out a ps A

756
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: all NFL team, don't forget about your fullbacks? I mean,

757
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: how many fullbacks are in? It's a dying there's like

758
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: there's Mike Tilbert. I mean what John Qun I'm bringing

759
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: him back? He's not Wait John ku is not coming

760
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: back to Green Bay? Oh? How did how did this

761
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: not make? So we've got We've got, We've got Mike Tolbert?

762
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: I mean what is Marc? Is Marcel Reese still kicking

763
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: around the NFL? Is he? I mean here, when you

764
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: think about how the NFL has evolved, it's a passing

765
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: league now. So we've pretty much done away with a

766
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: fullback in exchange for one more wide receipt. Exactly exactly.

767
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: And will San Diego commit to having a full I

768
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: guess they will because Philip Rivers just got lit up

769
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: last year, and uh, they need to do something in

770
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: regards to protection. There's just no question about it. Um,

771
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: I don't think they improved their offensive line enough. Obviously

772
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: they're going to be getting healthier. But again, it for me,

773
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: it just really comes back to microfracture surgery. Uh, super

774
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: long history of sapping players of explosiveness and athleticism, and

775
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: as far as I can tell, UH, there haven't been

776
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: any terrible, terribly great advances in that procedure. Well the

777
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: one I'll bet against one thing that works in his

778
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: favor here though that it depends on like the stuff.

779
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm no surgeon, but it's like it depends on the

780
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: size of like the microfracture that the show he had

781
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: like one of the smallest ones possible, and and again

782
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: and and you know, to that point, they had him

783
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: a estimated timetable of four to six months, and so

784
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: you know it's six months and he's doing individual drills.

785
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: I also, I don't know why I qualified that saying

786
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm not a surgeon. That's very clear. But I think

787
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: about Danny Woodhead. I think about the microfracture, I think

788
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: about the offensive line. I look at his a DP.

789
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: I just don't get it. I don't get it. Well,

790
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: all right, I want to. I want to hear, uh

791
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: you defend the tops you guys listed, Liz, you said

792
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: you wrote an arkle and sobach is a year point afterwards.

793
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: But James tell us why why not to like Davant Freeman? Um?

794
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: And again, keep in mind, look right now, his a

795
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: DP like he's locked and loaded as a top twelve guy,

796
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: locked and loaded as a twelve, a top twelve guy,

797
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: and I don't have him that much further down. I've

798
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: got him at twenty. Okay, but I think that's as

799
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: low as I've seen him on any experts rankings. Okay,

800
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: so keep in mind that's the relative value. And of

801
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: course at the top of the draft, missing on a

802
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: guy is is hugely impactful. Um And I get that.

803
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: The reason I don't like him in that top twelve,

804
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: top ten range is because most of the damnage she

805
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: did was in a five game stretch, a five game

806
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: stretch that featured what three NFC East teams and in

807
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: New Orleans. Okay, if you take away those games, and

808
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: if you weren't following the NFL last year, the NFC

809
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: East was just a train wreck defensive, as Adam Rank

810
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: would say, they were straight up dukes. They were straight

811
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: up dukes. And you throw in New Orleans into that

812
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 1: five game stretch as well. Um, you take away the look.

813
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: He had what three, I think three of his final

814
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: five games that he played, he had double digit scoring,

815
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: which is great, Okay, which is great, but it was

816
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: that was I mean, you want to talk about volume,

817
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: that was all based on volume. I think he only

818
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: had just a touch, just a tick over three yards

819
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: to carry over those final five games. I think I

820
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be some regression, especially in the touchdown department. Um,

821
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: I think you can get better value. I'd rather have

822
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: a guy like des Bryant uh in that range. And

823
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: I know not a lot of folks are doing that, um,

824
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: but for that price, in that top ten ten to

825
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: twelve range, I just just not that comfortable with Deavonta Freeman.

826
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: So a couple of things, UM, I hear all that

827
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: you did not mention what I see as the biggest

828
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: threat to his production, and that's Tevin Coleman. Listen, there's

829
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: nobody I am so unbelievable. Well, that's too bad. So

830
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: do I think that Tevin Coleman, who was hand picked

831
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: by Kyle Shannon, was right out of Indiana teammates with

832
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard Um like rusher at Indiana? Sure? Sure? What

833
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: else does he have? Oh? An upright running style and

834
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: what does that do? Invites injury? Could he stay healthy

835
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: as rookie? You're sure couldn't? What is what does Freeman have? Something?

836
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: As much as I appreciate these next gen stats that

837
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: we are able to receive the metrics community, here's what

838
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: DeVonta Freeman has. Vision and patience an elite level, I'd

839
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: say a vision and patience is the fastest guy knows,

840
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: the strongest guy knows. He the biggest guy know. But

841
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: he does produce because he has unquantifiable skills. He also

842
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: has awesome hands. He was second in targets to Julio Jones.

843
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: He had nearly five catches per contests and racked a

844
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: five hundred and seventy eight yards through the air. That

845
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: was the third most of any running back. You want

846
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: to take away his totes, fine, Coleman can cut into

847
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: those if Coleman can stay healthy, maybe eight to eleven

848
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: touches per game, But who else are they going to

849
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 1: use in the passing game? I know that Rank obviously

850
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: likes Justin Hardy is a high volume slot guy. The

851
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: Nude did some interesting things two seasons ago when the

852
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: rest of the cadre of receivers in Stinatty were banged up, right,

853
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: But I think that the report between Ryan and and

854
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: Freeman in the passing game is one that you have

855
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: to you have to notice, and you have to, you know,

856
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: give some some credit to um So. I think that

857
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: those are a lot of reasons that will I see regression. Yes,

858
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: do I see him as a twenty top twenty like

859
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: outside of the top fifteen. I have him ranked number eleven,

860
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: so a low end or among our best? Um So,

861
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: do I see him as a low end RBY one,

862
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: high end RB two? Yes, a bus though come on again,

863
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: relative to his draft pro fall out of the top

864
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: fifteen right, Absolutely low end r B two. I would

865
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: see him as a Yeah, I guess no, it's like

866
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: a mid like a mid level RB two. Okay, man,

867
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: I found it. I knew the A ten guys had

868
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: at us. I'm trying to scoop it up there. I

869
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: just think, look again, if I could take him at

870
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: the end of the second early third, of course, but

871
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get he's there to be there. He's

872
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: not gonna be there. He's going as a top ten,

873
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: top twelve pick. I'm not going to invest that. But

874
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: I think part of that is that when you get,

875
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: having just done our you know, our tin team mock,

876
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: get to that tenth pick, and it's foggy, really is,

877
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: It's like, what do I do here? You know for

878
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: sure you have the tenth pronk. I took Grounk eleven

879
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: because I just couldn't justify taking Gronk in the first time.

880
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: It's totally a mental thing. So I waited till but

881
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: and then who else who went after that? No, I

882
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: was farther down. Let me pull it up super quick.

883
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: Somebody passed the time while I grabbed this. Okay, I'll

884
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: give you my full list by the way I already did,

885
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: didn't Yeah, I do have a quick question, Um, can

886
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: TJ yelldn't be a bust when you don't have high

887
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: expectations for him in the first place. I don't know,

888
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: is he what's his ADP right now, because I thought

889
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: I saw him going in like round ten, yelled him, Yeah,

890
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: seven for fantasy, he's going round seven, round seven, I

891
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: mean at round seven, big time busts. I just t

892
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: J Yelden last year is what I thought he would be,

893
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: which wasn't particularly special. Um, you and I was with

894
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: you on that belt. I think this year he'll we

895
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: watch a lot of Alabama kind of be more of

896
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: the same. I mean, look, my biggest issue with t

897
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: J Yeldon is that the dude just falls down all

898
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: the time. That's a problem for a running back. I

899
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,479
Speaker 1: mean like he just without being touch were being barely touched,

900
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: dude just falls down. Like I don't know if he's

901
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: got bad balance, if he's got like an inner ear

902
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: thing or something like. I'm not sure, but I need

903
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: my running backs to stay on their feet, and TJ

904
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: Yelden just doesn't do this. This is the big time

905
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: stat that I looked at, um, and this is not

906
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: advanced metrics at all. All right, this is not a

907
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: next gen s. This is not next gener twelve games.

908
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: Twelve games featured running back playing for a a pretty

909
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: good scoring offense. Okay, yelled in had how many total

910
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: touchdowns three I think right, three three total touchdowns in

911
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: twelve games where there was literally nobody shoelace. A converted

912
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: quarterback I believe did get more red zone touches carries.

913
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: Then now you add Chris Ivory into them, is going

914
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: to get all the red zone came I don't understand.

915
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: How does anybody invest a seventh round pick in t

916
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: J yelled. I don't get it. I couldn't do it.

917
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: There's just no way. Even in the tenth round. I'm like, yeah,

918
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: some upside guys that I might like here, I'd probably

919
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: take a swing out, I think again, But but what

920
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: happens when what happens if Chris Ivory is just like

921
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: you know what, man, it's good, I'm here. You need

922
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: to take a backseat, like it could that could totally happen.

923
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: I think the thing with t J yelled and Chris Ivory,

924
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: the reason both of their values are just so murkying

925
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: up in the air is the fact that we don't know,

926
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: We literally do not know who's going to end up

927
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: starting in the backfield. Um, you think t J yelled

928
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: in high high profile draft pick, Okay, fine, but then

929
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: the team went and spent really good money to bring

930
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 1: in Chris Ivory. I'm I'm actually just remembering this right now.

931
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: But Um, back in the day when they picked yelled in,

932
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: the whole thing was just Braley said he wanted his

933
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: bell cow and he like pounded the table flo in

934
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: the draft room. Maybe they realized that didn't they might

935
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: not have gotten that, So that's where they went and

936
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 1: got Ivory. Who's going to have be that that you know, heavy,

937
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: heavier workload, dumper kind of g He's certainly not a

938
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: guy who plays to his size, right, Like, That's I

939
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: think what Marcus was alluding to. And so we know

940
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: that Chris Ivory is a burner who does play to

941
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: his size. And then you know, Chris Ivory has obviously

942
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: had some durability issues. But I think that you're totally

943
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: right and I agree with that, bust pick Um. Did

944
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: we have more Freeman talk or did we want to

945
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: talk about? Where was that? Where was who was? Went

946
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: right after Freeman? So it was Freeman, gronk Um and

947
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: did you sorry, I've got I've got it here. There

948
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: was some chat are coming from out back here. I

949
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: had to fix that, Jamal Charles Dez Bryant, Doug Martin, A. J. Green,

950
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: and Lamar Miller. With the next five, I'll take everyone

951
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: except uh, probably not Jamal Charles. And then after that,

952
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: Allen Robinson, Jordan, I'll take him. I'll take him, Mike Evans.

953
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: That's where started getting a little bit for me. But

954
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: a lot of those guys, like again, all those guys,

955
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: clear cut, I would much rather have Dez Bryant than uh,

956
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: than Devonte Freeman. And so I just like I said,

957
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: for me, again, it's all relative value. I don't I

958
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: think he's a good player. Um, I'm not saying he's

959
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: gonna be Look, I still have ranked top twenty for

960
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: God's sakes, you know, it's like, but in the top ten.

961
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 1: No way, there's just no way in hell I'm taking

962
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: him in the top ten. Absolutely not. All right, Well,

963
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: I think that's we hit like half the guys on

964
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: the list roughly, so we can let everybody else check

965
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: that out tomorrow. Wins drops and I feel dot com

966
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: slash draft kit. And now before we get to day

967
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: the depths quick probably the highlight of our week is

968
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: all right, so you get you know, we've talked about

969
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: a lot. Marx and I love terrible movies. Watch them

970
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: all the time, throw like events where we drink beer

971
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: and terrible beer and watch terrible movies. Highlight Friday. And

972
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: one of the crown jewels of the bad movie like

973
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: fandom is the Citizen Kane of bad movies is The Room?

974
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: What is the Room? The Room was? I think they

975
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: refer to it as a black comedy now that came

976
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: out in the mid two thousands. Let's be honest. It

977
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: was supposed to be dramatic. It was terrible, so they're

978
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: trying to rewrite. They're trying to rebuild it as a

979
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: black comedy. And it's basically just about this guy living

980
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: in San Francisco and his his his love life and

981
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And it's it's really terrible, and it's

982
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: it's incredible. It's it's kind of indescribable. James, you really

983
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: have to watch. But how did this come up? Liz

984
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: and we we were talking about something or or on

985
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: Twitter or we're thinking about something, reading about something. Because

986
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: it's become this huge phenomenon, they're like screening night screening

987
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 1: build it's it's sort of like the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

988
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: Now people to bring props, props, and there's like audience

989
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: cues and stuff. Almost yeah, So where does I'm so confused?

990
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: Where does Louis a little to fit into this story?

991
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. One of the one of the main characters, Uh,

992
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: the girlfriend of the lead Tomuzo, who wrote, directed, start

993
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: and produced in it um, is his girlfriend, Lisa. And

994
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: because it turns out actually auditioned for the role. And uh,

995
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: you know, as you can tell from what we've how

996
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: we've discussed this movie, it was probably a good career

997
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: move that she said no to the part, didn't get it,

998
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: but police tells a story for the record. I had

999
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: not yet moved out to l A. I was still

1000
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: in college. I was interning for a bit at a

1001
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,959
Speaker 1: casting director's office, trying to figure out what I wanted

1002
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: to do with my life, etcetera, and so um. While

1003
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: he was here, I was like, Oh, I'm going to

1004
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: try auditioning, like how people audition. I don't know what

1005
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: that means. I didn't have an agent, right, I was

1006
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: just gonna try and submit my head shot and see

1007
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: what happens. And so you get this call from this

1008
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: movie called the Room, and they were paying like a

1009
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a day which sounded like. I was like, oh,

1010
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm twenty, that sounds um. So I went to the

1011
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: audition and it was the craziest I have never had

1012
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: this experience. But there were like lines of people. We're

1013
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: all just like holding our head shots and reading these

1014
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: size and there's this wild haired, black, curly haired man

1015
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: screaming at us in this thick action of accent of

1016
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: European issue. I have nobody. He's like yelling, and he's

1017
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: making all of us make out on couches. Huh. Yes,

1018
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: that was a huge thing he's making. He was like,

1019
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: we need to see the chemistry. We need to see

1020
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: the chemistry. I have been in auditions where women have

1021
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: taken off their shirts and I was like, like, I mean,

1022
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in college, and like I take off a lot,

1023
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,959
Speaker 1: but like, I don't know if this is I feel

1024
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: like there's probably laws against this. But I was like, okay,

1025
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: I would like a hundred dollars a day in a

1026
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 1: movie credit. So, um, I'm on these couches making out

1027
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: with these guys who, by the way, we're he's just

1028
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 1: standing there watching, noting our makeouts at all. I didn't

1029
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: believe that going closer kiss him harder put your tongue

1030
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: into like he's like, it's really like more tongue less time.

1031
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: Was this here? That was the whole audition. This was

1032
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: the audition And did you actually have to say anything?

1033
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: We had to say the lines, but the lines were

1034
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: like like if there were the lines from the movie,

1035
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: they were terrible. I am angry at you, and then

1036
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: we like but it was you basically just had us

1037
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: like lined up on couches making up and then you'd

1038
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: be like you switch, you swap, you out, you in.

1039
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: And then the poor guy that was like my other

1040
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: his car got towed because the audition an hour long,

1041
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: and it was basically an hour of us, Like I

1042
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: felt like I came out of some sort of um

1043
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: like sweat camp, like sweat lodge where they like just

1044
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: you know, blasted you with heat. And then you were like,

1045
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god, oh my god, your car

1046
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: got towed. I've just made out with three people. And

1047
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: I consented. That was that, like, because had you had

1048
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: many big, big in air quotes auditions beforehand, like my

1049
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: third audition of my entire your career, wow, And it

1050
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: was for the room. It was for the room. And

1051
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: then I got a callback. Um, I got a callback,

1052
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: but I did not go because it was so like

1053
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: beieved out after I want to work with this guy,

1054
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 1: like I don't think. I actually talked to the casting

1055
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: director that I was interning for about it, and she

1056
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: was appalled and she was like, you can't go back,

1057
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: but I got a callback, did not go. Oh my god,

1058
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: that story was even better than I made. It was

1059
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: so amazing. I'm just because having you know, watched the

1060
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: room countless time, so I'm just picturing Tommy directing this

1061
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: like mad house casting audition with all these people making

1062
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: out and like, I don't know what filthy sofa is

1063
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 1: that he clearly like herbs out corners like like palms

1064
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: and highlands sort of gosh, well, I think we're were

1065
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: I for one can say I'm glad that you didn't

1066
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 1: go back on that callback, Liz and ended up where

1067
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: you are so we could talk fantasy and you know,

1068
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: be football heads out here in Los Angeles. That's good.

1069
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: That is a great So I feel like I need

1070
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: to have a beer. Let me think about life, you know,

1071
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: I like, man, let me just philosophize on that one

1072
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: that's not shower. Yeah, maybe he didn't have to make

1073
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 1: out with anybody on a thirty right exactly. That's maybe

1074
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: he's having a shower beer, Liz, those are the best

1075
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: kind of beer. Thank you for sharing that story with us.

1076
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: That was trendous. I hope the listeners at home that's

1077
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: stuck through it enjoyed it. And if you've never seen

1078
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: the room, go check it out. Check it out. I

1079
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: might have to, I might have to. Let's do daily

1080
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: DEAP to get out. You do it depth, all right,

1081
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: Daily DAP time. We'll start with MG. My guy, Marcus Grant,

1082
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: what's up? I got a few one And I don't

1083
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: know if Gilhard DAP this or not, but I am.

1084
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: I would see the nice guys over the weekend. I

1085
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: was gotta DAP today. But that's fine, all right, we

1086
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: can we can, we can double up on the depth.

1087
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: It was fantastic. Go see it if you were sick

1088
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: of and that's sick. But if you want something other

1089
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: than a remake or a reboot or a superhero movie

1090
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: well written, well, it's so funny. I was thinking. I

1091
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 1: was just thinking about that. Uh the other day, I'm like, man,

1092
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: I need to go see a real movie and not

1093
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: like I'm just I mean, the superhero movies that have

1094
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: come out have been have been good. Just god, it

1095
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: just feels the same. People have superhero fatigue. I think

1096
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: I think it's it feels this. Go see the Nice Guy.

1097
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: A couple other things real quick. One, Uh, dap to

1098
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 1: Alan Polido, who was a he's a he's a soccer

1099
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: forward plays for the Mexican national team or these plays

1100
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: in Mexico. I should say, yeah, I was kidnapped the weekend.

1101
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: That's insane, overpowered his kidnapper and freed himself. Right, so

1102
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: he had been Draymond Green on that dude maybe maybe um,

1103
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: but somehow he you know, disabled. The the kidnapper called

1104
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: the cops, told him where he was. They came and

1105
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: helped get him out. So they leadapted him for that.

1106
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: And uh finally they lead app goes to for anybody

1107
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: who is every now and then you know, James and

1108
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 1: I will adapt some new hip hop album or whatever.

1109
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: But the ninth wonder who is one of my favorite

1110
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: beat makers right now. Over the Memorial Day weekend dropped

1111
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: not to be confused with wonder Boy. Not to be

1112
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: confused with wonder Boy. He dropped a mixtape of of beats.

1113
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: It's thirty six tracks long. You can find it on

1114
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: sound cloud right now. I think it's also on iTunes,

1115
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: but it's called Zion by Ninth Wonder, So if you

1116
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: were into instrumental hip hop of the j Dilla Ninth

1117
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: Wonder sort, go get it. I listened to the first

1118
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: couple of tracks before I came up here for the podcast,

1119
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: and it sounds fantastic, So that'll be what I'm doing,

1120
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: is we're putting the final touches on the draft kit today.

1121
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: There beautiful. I love it. Alex Killhart, what's up. I

1122
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: was also gonna date adapt The Nice Guys because, as

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00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: Marcus said, it's hilarious. It's a fun movie, and I

1124
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: hear people lament at the time like, oh, I just

1125
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: want like other new ideas to come out in new movies.

1126
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm so sick of sequels, mae. But like, what's the

1127
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: last one you've seen? Reasonally like, oh, I don't know.

1128
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: So like when good movies come out like this, if

1129
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: you want more of them, we need to go support

1130
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: it and nice kids like okay at the box office,

1131
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: but get out and go see it people. It's a

1132
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Ryan Gosling had me in tears. A

1133
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: couple of times. I was laughing so hard. He's so funny.

1134
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: That's oh yeah, from the trailer when he cuts out,

1135
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: Oh god, he's great. Um. So there, I'll just daily

1136
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: Depp and Daily Depp to Liz Losa, thanks for coming on.

1137
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 1: She she was was going to come in last week

1138
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: but was had some sort of terrible illness. Had to

1139
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: get his the Z pack and everything, and she sold

1140
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 1: her through and now she's here and I were honored

1141
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 1: to have her as our first in studio non NFL guests.

1142
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: You don't do you know? Good? Perfect? I hope not

1143
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: Liz Losa daily depths. I don't know. Do you know

1144
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: how this works is basically we just give props? Man. Yeah,

1145
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: I can give a prop. Can I give a prop

1146
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 1: to Jon Favreau? Because I saw The Jungle Book over

1147
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: the weekend? Later and I have I have a little boy,

1148
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: he's almost three. Um, and I don't go to the

1149
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: movies anymore because I have a job and a child,

1150
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: no life, um, and so I'm also afraid that if

1151
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: I go to the movie and a fall asleep in them.

1152
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: But I went to the Juggle without just with my husband,

1153
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: and it was incredible A plus. No, no, it was

1154
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,959
Speaker 1: super super fun. And so John Favrow the like Skeevi

1155
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: Chubby from Swingers director he was pretty skinny and Swingers

1156
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: still like he got chubby props because I mean, Iron

1157
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: Man is one thing and Jungle Book is another. He

1158
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: is like crossing genres. It was excellent. Um, I wouldn't

1159
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: recommend it for little kids, but awesome, awesome, And I

1160
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: also want to give a dapt for little kids. Huh no, no, no, no,

1161
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: it's like a family adventure movie. Would say, like eight

1162
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: and above. It's kind of scary. Um. Bill Murray was

1163
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: of the Voice of Blue. He was excellent. And Gary

1164
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: Shandling r I p I was excellent. Um, you caught

1165
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: his voice really quickly and that I got a little

1166
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: emo about that. I also want to quickly give a

1167
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: shout out or a DAP. I guess to Amelia Clark

1168
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: the Police. She and I are birthday buddies. Oh, she

1169
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: is so hot. If I ever meet her person, that

1170
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: will be the first thing I say is that we

1171
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: are birthday buddies. I don't know how far that'll say.

1172
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say, hey, you're so hot.

1173
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 1: Mike dick. Oh perfect, very fitting. Anyway, Amelia Clark says

1174
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: she wants to play Jane Bond in a reboot of

1175
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: the James Bond series, be the first female Jane James Bond.

1176
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: I love it. Props to her for going forward. I

1177
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: would I would totally buy her as some sort of

1178
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: spy esque you know, Martini drinking gas kicker. Yeah, I

1179
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: like it. Call your good. Yeah, it's fine. Do they

1180
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: call it? Would they still call it Double O seven?

1181
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's question. I mean double O

1182
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: seven is merely just the license to kill the double

1183
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: Oh at least in the seven is your code number?

1184
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: It wasn't The person before James Bond who had the

1185
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: Double O seven was a woman? Right, I believe so?

1186
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: I think so that right? It? Could it be a prequel?

1187
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: Could this be a prequel? Maybe this is the double

1188
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: I like, I tell you what, though, I would I

1189
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: would see the hell out of that movie. If I

1190
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: saw that trailer, Like yep, going going one of those

1191
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: ones where I mean I'm in the theater and I

1192
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: see the trailer, I'm just like, shut up and take

1193
00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: my money. Uh man. Speaking of great trailers, I'll go

1194
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: ahead and give Daily Depth and Suicide Squad. The trailers

1195
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: there look awesome. I cannot wait to see that movie. Uh,

1196
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: we just talked about Superhero fatigue. I've got so much superherotigue. Man.

1197
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: Suicide Squad looks great, looks awesome. Jungle Book actually really

1198
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: look good in the trailers too, and I wanted to

1199
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: watch that. That was one one of the movies I

1200
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: was thinking about watching because I have superhi superhero fatigue. Um,

1201
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: what's another trailer? Oh, The Born, the Born movie that's

1202
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: coming out. What's that one called? Jason Bourne? Just by

1203
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: the way he is ripped, he is absolutely It's It's

1204
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: a good thing they do not test for p DS

1205
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: in movies because that boy, Matt Damon is jacked in

1206
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: that trailer. Um. I'll give my Fisher Daily Depth to

1207
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: James Brown. I don't know why. I was just listening

1208
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: to a lot of James Brown over the Memorial Day weekend.

1209
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: I think I had Man's World on like repeat for

1210
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: a while. Fantastic song, unbelievable, and then I did you

1211
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: do this? I'm surprised. MG. No, Clay Thompson love, I

1212
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: mean single hand ended Lee carried the Warriors for I

1213
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: would say without Chris. Without Klay Thompson, there is no

1214
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: Game seven. I think even I don't even think they

1215
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: win Game seven without Lay Thompson. The way he caught

1216
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,479
Speaker 1: fire and kept them close. It was a double digit lead,

1217
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: like four or three pointers, absolutely, and he kept them

1218
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: in the game. And he actually gave them the momentum

1219
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: and carried them, uh into a lead of their own.

1220
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: But again, you gotta keep in mind they were facing

1221
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: a double digit deficit with again with an Oklahoma City

1222
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: team that wasn't playing great. I think they're still missing

1223
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: shots from three point land and layups for that matter,

1224
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: and layups. But no, but Klay Thompson I thought was

1225
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: the series m v P. He was the best player

1226
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: on the floor, Uh, in this entire series. He did

1227
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: an okay job, a pretty good job of of playing

1228
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: defense and again carried them in Game six and carried

1229
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: them I thought for Game seven. Granted, Curry finished off

1230
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: the game, but it was Thompson who set them up

1231
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: and put them in that position. So UH adapts to

1232
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: him as well. That's gonna do it for our podcast

1233
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: for the wiz Kid from Wisconsin, Alas Keller. Oh. By

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01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: the way, sign up today NFL dot com Slash Fantasy

1235
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: and nfl dot com slash Draft Kit for the latest

1236
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: draft kid. Hey, thank you Liz Losa. MG my got

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01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: Marcus Grant. I'm James co We're out.