WEBVTT - Augusta Archives: Stewart Hagestad 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:04.120 I miss the green. For example, I'm already upset. When 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:06.240 I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:08.239 And when I find my ball in a fried egg 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:11.360 Friday egg, the dreaded Frida egg, Frida egg, Frida egg 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:13.880 fried Egg, Frida egg, bride egg Lie, I'm about ready 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:15.400 to run off the golf course. 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:23.640 Arnold Palmer is the master of Night. 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:27.760 He has buddy the last two holes, two cats. I 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:28.720 got bog ahead. 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.600 Oh cat that Jory? What is the sayst lay a 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:33.480 way his gold? 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.680 I have anybody he hasn't ever seen that at play 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:37.800 up the hill. 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:42.120 Like that? 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:48.599 And I think that's one of the greatest buddies I've 0:00:48.600 --> 0:01:01.319 ever seen him Friday Night. Maybe yes, sir, there can 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.840 you believe it? Now? 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:04.040 No? 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:08.319 There? 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:10.480 It is a wins for the ages? 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:15.559 Is it his time? 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:25.040 Here? 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:25.640 It comes? 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:45.760 Oh my goodness, oh wow? In your life have you 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:47.000 seen anything like that? 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.040 Hello, friends, I'm Jim nantsis my great pleasure to welcome 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.400 you to the Master's Tournament. I've heard it said before. 0:01:53.760 --> 0:02:20.079 It's a tradition unlike any other. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:24.360 back to another edition of the Masters Podcast on the 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:28.720 fried Egg Podcast. Today we are joined by last year's 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:33.320 low Amateur and the twenty sixteen US mid am champ 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.120 Stuart Hagastad Stuart, Welcome on. 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.280 Hey man, Thanks for having me. It's a pleasure to be. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:43.560 Here, second time on the pod Rare air there. 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:48.320 It's it's what it really comes down to, is just 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.440 this facade that I've put on of you know, just 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:55.560 writing the coattails of plast success and it's it's it's great. 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.440 I'm glad that you fell for it. 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:00.639 What's it? What's it like one year late or after 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.600 what I imagine was a just a whirlwind week last year. 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.560 Yeah, it's uh, it's it's crazy. You know a year 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.519 ago today I was, I was down there and Yingy 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.320 was definitely a little bit higher this time last year. 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:20.120 But no, I'm I'm fired up, you know, for Matt 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.840 and uh, you know, I'm really excited for him, and 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:24.799 we've we've we've talked a little bit about the week 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.440 and it's just such a special place and special event 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:31.200 and you know, we're we're obviously looking forward to what 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:33.880 I guess they're calling like the highly most highly anticipated 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.200 masters of all time or you know, in recent history. 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.160 So it'll be cool I can't wait to see it 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:44.160 from a different perspective and you know, but definitely definitely 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:45.040 different than last year. 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:49.000 I imagine watching it this year, you're going to have 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:53.680 you'll see it through a completely different lens having played there. 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:58.720 What was, you know, the biggest thing that maybe miss 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:06.040 perception that you had going into competing at Augusta that 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.840 was either wrong or the biggest thing that kind of 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.000 shocked you about competing at Augusta that you didn't ever 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:14.320 realize from watching the telecasts. 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:21.000 Yeah, you know, it's funny you say that, because it's 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:24.279 so true. I was down there with with my dad 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:30.799 and we were playing together, and there was this point 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:32.919 where it kind of struck out or stuck out to me, 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:34.920 where I approached him and I kind of said, you 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:36.679 know what, there's a huge part of me that's almost 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:37.960 really jealous of you. And he's like, well, what do 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:41.080 you mean, And I was like, well, when I look 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.239 at the golf course really from from now on, because 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.039 after the first couple of times you play it, and 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:49.159 you know, it's it feels like you you walk around 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:50.919 and you look at shots that you know guys have 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:52.600 hit through the years, and you kind of marvel at 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.560 you know how special those moments were, like you know 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.240 Phil and laying my eyes and you know Tiger's chip 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.920 and you know Bubba and so on so forth. And 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.440 when you I guess, I don't want to say get 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:06.640 over because that gives the wrong connotation. But when you 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:11.920 kind of move past that initial awestruck feeling, you then 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:13.680 kind of try and get into Okay, how can I 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.680 play the golf course, and how can I try and 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.839 set myself up for the best angles and leave myself 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.880 the best positions to go to certain pins. You start 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.000 playing it, you know, as a traditional practice round. And 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:26.600 I love my dad, and what I was kind of 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.640 trying to impress upon him was I don't know that 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:31.280 for the rest of my life, if I'll ever have 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:35.600 that same experience of, oh my gosh, this is where 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.280 you know Jordan was or Tiger was or you know whatever, 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.039 you know, I will probably now look at it more 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:45.240 from a competitor standpoint, in the sense that like, you know, 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:46.960 to this pin, this is where you want to be, 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:51.680 or you know, to you know, off this tee off, 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:53.120 you know, this is the angle you want to have, 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.760 so on, so forth. But one of the things that 0:05:55.800 --> 0:06:01.160 you definitely, I would say, don't really, I guess understand 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.640 until you've been there, been through that week is just 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:05.960 and everyone says the same thing, but it's really just 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:11.760 how much the golf course changes. It speeds up so 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.159 so significantly. And last year, I guess wasn't a great 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:19.360 example from Tuesday and or sorry from Thursday and Friday, 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.480 just because of the weather. It was blown like twenty 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.760 five and it you know, it had rained and it 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:26.880 was it was playing for their standards, I guess on 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.800 the softer side. But the difference between the golf course 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:33.920 on say like Friday morning to like Sunday mid afternoon 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.279 was it was crazy, like it was almost like the 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:40.039 greens were getting purple. They were just so quick, and 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.760 you know, just it's easy to see how guys would 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.400 you know, they'll they'll play the par three contests and 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:50.160 they'll come back the next day and almost have this 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:52.360 this crazy you know, look when they've got a twenty 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:54.200 footer on the first hole that rolls five five and 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.680 you're just like, wait, how did the greens get so quick? 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.160 So I would say that just the change that has 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:00.960 made for. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:05.200 Sure, you know, you don't get to think about where 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.240 Jordan or Phil you might not have that anymore, but 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.400 now you have, well this is where I hit this 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.280 one year, so you kind of have something on everybody else. 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.720 I I I as, I was kind of trying to 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.600 explain that that ran through my head and I was like, no, dude, 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:27.320 just just shut your mouth. So you but yeah, it's 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:28.320 it's it's weird. 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:33.560 So anyways, you had an unbelievable week out there, and uh, 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:37.440 I think you're the first mid Am from the US 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.960 mid Am Exemption winner to make the cut and then 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.800 you know the the low am. Was that about the 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:48.600 best golf that you've put together for a week ever? 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.680 I wouldn't say. I wouldn't say it's the best I've 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:59.360 ever played. I played pretty well in the twenty sixteen 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:04.400 when I shot one twenty five in one day six 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:09.520 one sixty four. But it's not bad relative Yeah, it was. 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.360 It was a pretty good day. I uh, a lot, 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:15.760 a lot of perfect numbers and it was fun. But 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.840 I think relative to total humble brack by the way, 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.800 but relative to you know, the golf course and the 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:27.320 conditions and the crowds and the atmosphere and just the 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:31.960 overall experience, I would absolutely say, it's the best that 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:37.280 I've ever managed my game and managed my my emotions 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.920 seventy four, Like, you know, without any context seventy four, 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.600 seventy three, seventy four, seventy three. You know, to from 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:47.440 a competitive standpoint isn't super impressive, but you know, under 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.520 the conditions and how difficult the course played. And I 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.920 mean if you were to like I played a practice 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.640 round with Jordan and Couture on on Wednesday, and if 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.200 you asked either one of them, you know, if they 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:58.520 thought I was going to play that well that week, 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.440 they probably would have laughed at you. Because I feel 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.080 like I hit it all over the city of Augusta. 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:07.160 So it was it was definitely the best I've I've 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:11.000 ever managed kind of everything that was going on. So 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.200 I'm really I'm really proud of that from that week 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:13.680 for sure. 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:19.840 So to go back, you get the invitation in early 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:25.320 twenty seventeen, and then how did you prep for the week? 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.680 Did you how many times did you go down to 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.680 Augusta to play a few times? Who did you play 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.200 your practice round with leading into the week? 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.480 Sure? Yeah, I you know, I went down there. I 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.640 made some trips by myself. I made a couple of 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:45.600 trips with some family friends that from from from La 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.400 that you know, I know that belong down there. So 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.480 I had the chance to play it. I don't know, 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:56.120 probably mid to high teens, i'd say. And like I said, 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.680 you know earlier, the first time, you know, you either 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:01.400 go to the Masters or you play the golf course. 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.040 You're just you're kind of an awe and everything that's 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.160 going on. But I really tried to make a conscious 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.440 effort to make this switch. And I mean, look, I 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.080 certainly don't have all the answers. I know that that 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.920 Harve has talked to Scott. Harvey's talked to Matt as 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:18.360 well about the course. But I think if I remember 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.040 what I told him was like, look, the first time, 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:21.640 maybe even the first two times, go down there and 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.800 just enjoy it and see it and take it all 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:25.719 in because it's just such a special place and it's 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.760 got so much history. But like I, you know, there's 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:30.720 gonna be a point where you notice, like to make 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.080 a switch, you know, and to make a change and 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.240 like okay, like how can we best play this? And 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.360 you know, play it a practice roud because you know 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.199 where all the pins are to an extent, more or 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:44.680 less and you don't, but you know, more or less, 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:48.000 it's probably five maybe six pins that they traditionally use 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:53.920 each year. So yeah, it's like I said, mid to 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:58.160 high teens. I got down there like the Thursday before 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:06.040 and I played practice rounds on Tuesday with Thomas Peters 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:09.120 and Adam Scott and then on Wednesday with with Jordan 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:13.080 and Matt. Last year there was some weather, so I 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.640 maybe would have played eighteen one of the days. A 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:17.440 lot of people have said, you know, try and not 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.240 play as much because you don't want to get tired out. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.720 But like, when you go down there, you're adrenaline. It's 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.319 just so I You're just you're kind of trying to 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:30.040 soak it all in. So, like I said, I talked 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:31.840 to you know, guys in the past that played the tournament, 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.720 Sammy Schmidt's, and he's like, yeah, everyone told me, you know, 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.240 try not, you know, and play eighteen each day, But 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:39.000 you're adrenaline so high. All you want to do is 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.240 go out there and play in front of crowds and 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:45.480 friends and family. And thankfully, I guess in retrospect for me, 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.040 the weather kind of limited how much I could play, 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.960 so I was able to can still you know, you know, 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.640 store energy and kind of contain myself during Monday through Wednesday. 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.319 Who gave you the best advice and what was it? 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:01.120 If you can share? 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:08.199 Yeah, I would say two things. I had the chance 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:12.480 to play with Ben Crenshaw and Carl Jackson, or with 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:16.160 Ben the Sunday before, and Carl was out there with us, 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:20.640 and basically Carl went into my book and he made 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:24.199 a bunch of notes, maybe not the same ones that 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.000 Jordan had, but very similar just kind of the pull 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.480 of the golf course and what everything you know would 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:33.280 traditionally kind of you know, go towards so you know, 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:36.360 everything kind of goes towards that area and Amen corner 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:39.679 and just like different parts of the greens. I mean, 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.800 to have a guy like that such invaluable experience, it 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.440 can only be kind of gained, you know, through going 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.760 out there, like as I think knowing up, I love 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:50.960 their podcast now. I think they sum up the way 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.440 that you know, they talk about the Greens and the 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:58.280 reads that Augusta pretty well, like you don't like listen, 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.920 I obviously played the first round and you know of 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:04.199 my life and the tournament on Thursday, but you don't really, 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:09.160 I guess, you know, read the greens, you learn them 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:10.960 and like to have a guy like Carl out there, 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.120 you know, to kind of impress upon you like this 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:14.600 is where the pole of the golf course goes. This 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.079 is what this ball does. This is what it does, 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.960 is it loses speed. It just really confirms a lot 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.760 of that homework that you put in kind of leading 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:26.040 into the week. So it just that you know a 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.920 little bit makes you, you know a little bit more confident, 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:30.800 I guess you could say, and you know the decisions 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.679 that you're making. And then as far as as playing, 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.280 Adam Scott made a comment that was really really cool. 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.200 So I tell everyone, like I was by far the 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:45.560 most nervous on Tuesday. I didn't, you know, play say 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:47.720 high school football or you know, high school basketball at 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.040 a super high level, you know, in front of thousands 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.080 of people. I always kind of tried to tell myself, 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:54.760 you know, going into the tournament that playing in front 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:56.400 of one hundred people is not so different than playing 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:58.920 in front of a thousand. That's not true at all, 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:03.400 Like people is way way more intimidating. So I was 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:06.319 super nervous on Tuesday and Wednesday and kind of every 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.080 day thereafter, I became a little bit more comfortable. So 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:11.960 I preface that because when I went to Adam, you know, 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:13.400 I'm I felt like I was kind of like a 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.440 deer in the headlights on Tuesday. I was so terrified, 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.079 I guess at the moment, and I'm kind of trying 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.280 to think about this, like okay to this pen, what's 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:22.560 the best place to miss? And you know, to for 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:24.320 this side of the fairway, like would you prefer to 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.480 be on this side or that side? And I'm sure 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:28.800 by like seven, so we played in the back nine 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.040 together and by seventeen, I'm sure he just kind of 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.400 got annoyed with me, and or maybe he was just 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:35.800 being super patient, was just giving me honest advice, but 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:40.280 either way, I took it to heart. And he was like, listen, Stu, 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:44.320 it's a major championship. Like I've I'm a Master's champion 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.920 and you know I've won here before, but I you know, 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.000 I'm the most nervous I am over any t shot 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.400 all years. On the first hole, like there's just a 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:54.680 couple pins and a couple spots out here where you 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.320 just got to step up and hit a really good one, 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.160 you know, there's there's not really a place to miss. 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:02.480 If you do miss, then you just got to do 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:04.680 the best you can. But you know, you you hit 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.160 great shots, you know under the conditions to get here, 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.000 and you know you can you can execute under the 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.600 gun again. But there's just a couple of spots out here, 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.880 like there are any PGA Tour venues in any major 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.680 championships where you really just got to go commit and 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:19.160 and try and hit a good one. And I was like, 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.800 I like, how blunt that is. That totally makes sense 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.880 and I just kind of went from there. So that 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:28.880 was that was huge. It just it gives you, you know, 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.360 he gave me the confidence to to just kind of 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.560 be like, hey, these guys go through the same thing 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.640 that you know everyone else goes through. You just gotta 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:38.160 I don't know, you just got to deal with the 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:41.880 consequences and you know, like I said, try and hit 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:42.920 a good one. 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.280 Yeah, at the end of the day, that's that's real. 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:47.480 That's really blunt. But like, I don't know, I just 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:48.400 it was it was cool. 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:54.600 Austin's are known for their bluntness, so it's, uh, it's fitting. Yeah, 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.280 do you think there's a shot out there that that 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.560 gets oken of a lot that might be a little 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:06.120 bit overrated in terms of how difficult it it is 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.160 versus you know what they talk it up to be. 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:19.840 Well, let's let's be really clear about this. I wouldn't 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:27.480 say it's overrated. I would just say I know what 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.840 the answer is, and I'm sure you do too. I 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.920 wouldn't say it's overrated. I would just say I think 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:42.360 it's over it's over complicated. Twelve is a really amazing hole. 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:46.880 You know, with the crowd and the it feels like 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:48.800 you're in a stadium. You know, you have eleven, you 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.720 have twelve, you have thirteen, and it feels like a 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.080 little bowl. And obviously, you know, over the years there's 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:56.840 been a lot of you know, speculation of the wind 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.840 and you know certain pins and what to do, and 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.200 two years ago, you know, you're sitting there on your 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.960 couch can of you know, as a everyone is, you know, 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.159 so excited for the Masters every year, and you know, 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.159 there's just certain shots that you really look forward to seeing. 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:15.320 And I would say that that shot on twelve is 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.560 definitely one of them. Because you know, whether it's the 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:21.439 media or you know, producers or whoever, you know, they 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:25.800 they just kind of impress upon how how I guess 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.800 influential the wind is. Well, I don't know if if 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:33.000 I heard this before, if I just am a total 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:37.400 bonehead and like invented my own theory. But I kind 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.120 of tried to ask, you know, guys down there, you know, caddies, 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:44.040 players whoever, like, how do you play twelve right? And 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.360 everyone pretty much had the same answer. It was like, well, 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:50.280 if you hit it a one hundred and fifty five 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:54.120 yard shot before, yes, they go, great, it's one hundred 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.080 and fifty five yards over the middle of the bunker. 0:17:56.600 --> 0:18:00.840 Every single time. I'm like even to like a left 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:05.040 pin or right pin Stewart every single time if there's 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.240 a little like if it's like you know, if there's 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:08.840 if it feels like there's a little bit of wind, 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:11.439 maybe three or four yards more. But if you if 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.960 you hit it or over one fifty, like if you 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.000 put it in the bunker, you know, it's it's not great, 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.080 but you're it's it's better than putting putting it in 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:24.040 race creek and and longs really tough. And I mean, 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.760 maybe I'm putting my foot in my mouth with this one, 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:30.359 but I I really tried to just be like steal 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:33.479 you've hit you know, you've you've hit a solid eight 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:37.320 iron a thousand times and more, you've hit solidate irons 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.840 a thousand times in your life. It's an eight iron 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.960 over the middle of the bunker. Just step up and 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.080 hit a good one, commit to it and go. 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.440 Yeah. It's a lot of what Adam Scott said. It's 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:51.679 just one of those places where you have to hit 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:53.800 a good golf shot. It's pretty simple. 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:58.600 Yeah, it's I mean, like, yeah, it's it's so true though, 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:02.639 like you me, so eleven is twelve and thirteen is 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.960 really cool because you know it obviously has you know, 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.760 the allure and just everything that goes with it because 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:13.280 it is amen corner. But what I guess the what 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:15.840 I didn't understand, you know, as a as an avid watcher, 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:19.680 is you don't quite understand just how many people are there. 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:23.680 I mean, there's like four or five feels like thousand 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:26.600 people because there's a concession stand behind and there's just 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:28.959 there's there's groups all around. There's typically one on eleven 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:30.480 and then one on twelve, and then one on thirteen, 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:35.280 and it's just a really populated area. And after even 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:37.120 when you hit your second shot on eleven, Like as 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.919 you begin to walk down the hill and you become 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:41.560 you know, like one hundred, one hundred and fifty yards 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:44.960 out of the green, it feels different. I mean, it's 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:48.760 it's it feels like you almost gonna enter this mini arena. 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:52.119 And I mean, I don't know. I'm sure you know 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:54.880 a lot of listeners to the pod, and I'm sure 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:56.520 you've been in a situation where they have you know, 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:59.400 like an eighty yard say web shot like in a 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:01.480 number or something to agree, you know what i mean, 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.800 like something to that extent. Well, it's it's kind of 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:09.080 like that, but it's not at all like that. It's 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.000 like you're you're overthinking a lot of things and you 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:13.280 just you need to you know. 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:13.560 It's. 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:17.120 Uh, it's wild. It's it's it's really it's it's crazy. 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.000 But you know, luckily I I didn't have too much 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:22.200 carnage on that hole. I think I was like two 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.439 over on the week. I think I three putted like twice. 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:29.120 But it's, uh, it's it's a really gosh, it's such 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:30.520 a great Part three. 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.520 I feel I feel like if you gave people two 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.960 over on the week, people they probably take it they said, 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:39.040 you're gonna play this whole too over, you know, with 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:42.119 the bogey on Thursday and Saturday. Do you think the 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:43.680 majority of the field would take it? 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:49.959 Do want to be totally honest? Yeah, no, okay, if 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:51.360 you want to, if you want to, if you want 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:56.399 to win, you got I mean, it's I think it 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:58.320 kind of goes back to, you know, guys that are 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:02.879 are really playing to win, competing, and I think I 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:04.960 think to make the cut, a lot of guys might, 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.879 especially in a year like last year, where it was, 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:12.000 you know, playing a little tougher with the conditions. But 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:16.560 it's it's look, it's it's a tough hole. But at 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:18.240 the same time, for a lot of guys, it's a 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:20.760 nine iron, Like for Phil, I bet it's a nine iron. 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:23.200 For some guys it's an eight iron, and those guys 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:27.080 are so good with their scoring clubs, and you know, 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:31.120 kind of within twenty feet and I think just it's 0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:35.159 one of the less severe greens on the course. Granted, 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:37.479 there are you know, a ton of subtleties to it, 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:39.960 but you know, relative to a green like say five 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:45.240 or four, you know a lot of them. But if 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:46.880 you give it, like if you can hit a good 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:48.920 one there, and you can give yourself fifteen or twenty feet. 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:50.480 Like it's kind of like saying, if if you could 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.360 give yourself eighteen twenty footers you know throughout the round, 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:55.240