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Speaker 4: Hey hey, hey, this is comedian playing my role and
Speaker 4: welcome to this week's episode of Laugh and Learned. I
Speaker 4: am your host and along with my beautiful co host
Speaker 4: and one and only I CONTs Bobby Clipping, Hi you,
Speaker 4: hi you juts, we are here to this week to
Speaker 4: give you what we have. This is a grand week
Speaker 4: because this is Thanksgiving week, which which we will touch
Speaker 4: on later in the show. Thanksgiving me so many different things,
Speaker 4: to so many different people and for so many different reasons,
Speaker 4: and we'll talk about that later, but right now we're
Speaker 4: gonna start off with this, so thank you. On Saturday,
Speaker 4: I was in Oakland, California with Tiffany had its Saturday
Speaker 4: the eighteenth and little real for the best friends to it.
Speaker 4: Thank you at the World Famous What was the name
Speaker 4: of the theater we were at. I can't remember. It
Speaker 4: was fantastic though it was. It was so nice. It's
Speaker 4: a historic THEA a good guy. My mind just went
Speaker 4: blank and I haven't even had nothing.
Speaker 1: It's a movement, a menopause.
Speaker 4: It was definitely a men oh Paul, because I'm pausing
Speaker 4: these men. It was so wonderful and it was a
Speaker 4: great show. Oakland was so wonderful and great. Thank you.
Speaker 4: And then Sunday I did I did the Diva Symboley singing,
Speaker 4: which is Shirley Raps the longest running AIDS and hiv
Speaker 4: awaren this aide benefit in the country. This was her
Speaker 4: thirty third year I went. It was a grand affair.
Speaker 4: She hosted and constant changed five or six times. Oh
Speaker 4: my god. So many phenomenal entertainers was on the show.
Speaker 4: Jordan Sparks one American Idol season six, was there she
Speaker 4: was fantastic. Amba Riley just murdered the show. Anthony Hamilton,
Speaker 4: Shirley Ralpde. Her thing to open the show was Laverne Cox.
Speaker 4: And we're still waiting on how to open the show.
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna say nothing bad about it, but our
Speaker 4: damn sure ain't gonna say nothing good. Good God. She
Speaker 4: sang operatic a German opera. Right. She started trying to
Speaker 4: be soprano. She started trying to be soprano, but mid
Speaker 4: song she went full very white. I think she went
Speaker 4: two octors lord and very white. And it's up on
Speaker 4: my YouTube and my Instagram page. If y'all want to go,
Speaker 4: get y'all a good old snicker, because it was a
Speaker 4: good snicker for me. I said, next to a beautiful woman,
Speaker 4: a beautiful white woman. She's a TV actress. I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna mention her name, but when I tell you, she
Speaker 4: is my new road dog. Because me and her said
Speaker 4: next to each other, and we were like the two
Speaker 4: old me and muppets. We were really, oh my god.
Speaker 4: We had the a Nissi nash VIT's wife Jessica Bett,
Speaker 4: did a fantastic job. It was a great show, grand event.
Speaker 4: It raises its money for health awareness and all of that.
Speaker 4: So I was glad to go. And this is Thanksgiving week,
Speaker 4: Bobby Clipper, how are you? How was your week?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm breaking in the elastic wasist pants. I'm getting ready.
Speaker 1: I'm getting ready for the big day like an athlete.
Speaker 1: I am doing my stretches and I'm getting ready for
Speaker 1: the turkey. I'm okay. Things have been okay, kind of
Speaker 1: getting ready for the holidays, cleaning up the yard, putting
Speaker 1: away gone stuff. You know, it's cold here. I know
Speaker 1: you have beauty twelve months out of the year, but
Speaker 1: we don't have that here in Boston. Gets a little nippy.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be able to do with the code,
Speaker 4: especially in Boston because that's the white people cove. There's
Speaker 4: a different kind of see the black people co and
Speaker 4: then there's white people. Oh, I know every white people
Speaker 4: don't get cold until it gets arctic.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but it's funny it's coming in. We've had
Speaker 1: this super unseasonable We've talked about this before weather this year,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it was like sixty
Speaker 1: eight on Friday, and then we went down to like
Speaker 1: thirty somethings Sunday, And let me tell you, when it
Speaker 1: goes that quickly, it hits different. It's like, I feel
Speaker 1: like my grandmother, my my blood, didn't get a chance
Speaker 1: to second or she'd say these most ridiculous things. But
Speaker 1: now that I'm probably pushing the same age she was
Speaker 1: when she said them, I get it.
Speaker 4: It's cool where we're going, Bobby, what's happening in the world? Woah?
Speaker 1: Did you hear Jimmy Kimmel is going to host the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four Academy Awards.
Speaker 4: I heard they will just not give me my job.
Speaker 4: I don't know why they keep back passing me to
Speaker 4: give that job to everybody. But I think he's going
Speaker 4: to do a great job.
Speaker 1: He's terrific, and I think he's breaking them in for you.
Speaker 1: You know what I would love to see. I'd love
Speaker 1: to see you and Jimmy Kimmel. I think there would
Speaker 1: be a lot of Yeah. I think that that would
Speaker 1: be a great Say.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, did you say and Jimmy Kimmel? Or
Speaker 4: in Jimmy now that yeah, Well he's really not my top.
Speaker 1: Two of you have say there, look at it. I'm
Speaker 1: turning red. People can't even see no. I think that
Speaker 1: would be great because I'd love to see the back
Speaker 1: and forth between the two you. I think that would
Speaker 1: be I think that'd be terrific. But he has historically,
Speaker 1: I think he's done a really good job in the
Speaker 1: in the past. Takes a certain person, as you know,
Speaker 1: to be a really good host to keep people engaged,
Speaker 1: and he kind of plays off of people and circumstances.
Speaker 1: I mean, they obviously have a script when they go in,
Speaker 1: but he can add lib you know, very well as well.
Speaker 4: So I thought that I could be his I could
Speaker 4: be his I could be his trans year.
Speaker 1: There you go, Oh my god, you might have you
Speaker 1: might have to paint him mount mustache on you, but
Speaker 1: but you absolutely, absolutely, you absolutely could, you know, And
Speaker 1: we'd have to dig a hole for you too, because
Speaker 1: I think that Gama was about five foot and a
Speaker 1: half and that's about it. Also, did you see the
Speaker 1: huge marketing stunt that Snoop Dog did. He said he
Speaker 1: was giving up smoke. I think the whole world went crazy,
Speaker 1: But that wasn't it. It's it's a solo stove fire pit.
Speaker 1: The Snoop DOGG Edition for three hundred and fifty dollars
Speaker 1: sold at Hardware stores near you get them for Christmas.
Speaker 4: I thought that the branding of that was I believe it.
Speaker 4: I love the way they did that in one day,
Speaker 4: and it really made it look like he was giving
Speaker 4: up smoking, but he he said he was giving up smoke,
Speaker 4: so he just didn't want to have the smoke and
Speaker 4: his clothes. I thought that was great, and I produced
Speaker 4: the Aaron Horrid pointed out a very valid point before
Speaker 4: we started taking the show to say that he must
Speaker 4: have really had that money in the bag already, because
Speaker 4: that was great strategic. That was great strategy.
Speaker 1: That was fantastic because and everybody was on that the
Speaker 1: edge of their seat. I mean first, at first I
Speaker 1: believed it for a nano second, but I went to
Speaker 1: the negative because you know, I'm Boston Irish, so you
Speaker 1: got to go to the negative. I'm going, oh, he's sick,
Speaker 1: something happened, and he's and then I went, he's not
Speaker 1: giving up weed. He's going to do edibles instead, so
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the smoke in his clothes. But I
Speaker 1: never went to a solo stove firepit that. It never
Speaker 1: was in my even on my horizon, So I thought
Speaker 1: that was that was dynamite. I love clever, clever people.
Speaker 1: I wish I was clever, that I'd have a bazillion dollars, right,
Speaker 1: But I'm non clever. Oh look, they're coming to pick
Speaker 1: you up plane.
Speaker 4: Not my big gas on my motorcycle. Wes wobble and
Speaker 4: they don't fall down, but my fat ass will fall out.
Speaker 1: Did you know that Monday was Transgender Day of Remembrance?
Speaker 4: I did know that. I just want to remember two
Speaker 4: very first. I want to remember two very important people
Speaker 4: in the trans flight. One is Sylvia or Sylvia's last name.
Speaker 4: I want to say there Row. She was on the
Speaker 4: front line, fighting way back with Oh what's her name?
Speaker 4: We threw the first brick. Good god, boy helped me.
Speaker 4: Right now. My man was somewhere her name. She threw
Speaker 4: the brick at stone wall. Oh God, my man is
Speaker 4: somewhere else. I can't think of it. If you call
Speaker 4: a name, ma'ma so as soon as you stay. It's
Speaker 4: on the tip of my tongue. But it's been a
Speaker 4: long day to remember things. But and I get a
Speaker 4: lot of backlash from being part of a community that
Speaker 4: sometimes don't believe that I am with them. But I
Speaker 4: am with trans sisters and brothers, especially the ones that
Speaker 4: have common sense. Yeah, I'm not with the ones that
Speaker 4: did not have common sense?
Speaker 1: God bless her? Is it Marsha P. Jordan Johnson?
Speaker 4: Excuse me, Marsha P. Johnson. That's her name, that's the name.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Bobby, Marsha P. Johnson, who was the face
Speaker 4: and the godmother of the Stonewall movement because she was
Speaker 4: the first one to throw a brick to get it
Speaker 4: started so that we would have the rights. And it's
Speaker 4: always usually a trans woman or a trans person to
Speaker 4: really stand up and stand strong or very strong in
Speaker 4: his in his Constitution gave men like Harvey Milk. Harvey
Speaker 4: mill maybe he rested peace, faught very hard for gay
Speaker 4: rights and equality, and which I think is what we
Speaker 4: should be focused on more owner is the equality more
Speaker 4: so that into this and I do think that we
Speaker 4: all should be able to live as Americans peacefully and happily.
Speaker 4: So to all my trans brothers and sisters, yes it
Speaker 4: is transgenders. They remember. I think thirty four trans people,
Speaker 4: trans women have been killed this year. I've seen a
Speaker 4: statistic so far through violent crimes. So I wish that
Speaker 4: we can fix that and get rid of that, and
Speaker 4: we can come together as a community. But we'll see,
Speaker 4: We'll see what the future holds. That's what we have
Speaker 4: to vote our present so we can make changes in
Speaker 4: our future. So okay, Bobby, where we're going next?
Speaker 1: So, speaking of staying on the sort of the same tax,
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court is not going to allow Florida to
Speaker 1: enforce the law targeting drag shows. So this is a
Speaker 1: real talk about throwing a breck. This is a real
Speaker 1: kicking the shens for Ron Desanta since this is one of.
Speaker 4: The good good because he should have never made that.
Speaker 4: That has nothing to do with Rond de Santus has
Speaker 4: been a throwing in Florida side for quite some time.
Speaker 4: It's starting with fighting Disney over some stuff because Disney
Speaker 4: is the biggest money maker of Florida, and then he
Speaker 4: comes with it. Don't say gay and don't say drag shows.
Speaker 4: But I'm a drag performer, Bobby. I did drag shows
Speaker 4: for thirty years successfully. Drag shows never hurt anybody. Drag
Speaker 4: shows has never stopped anybody. In fact, I've had women
Speaker 4: and me and come up to me and say, oh
Speaker 4: my god, I was in a bad place, but that
Speaker 4: song made me feel something. The way you perform that song.
Speaker 4: And that's not just my story as a drag performer.
Speaker 4: That is so many drag entertainers stories that they touched
Speaker 4: somebody in a positive way. I hate that they've tried
Speaker 4: to shine a negative light on it, but I'm glad
Speaker 4: that Florida gave him their ass to kiss and turn
Speaker 4: the back on him. He ain't gonna be the governor
Speaker 4: of Florida next till Man.
Speaker 1: Well, and I never understood that, Like the way that
Speaker 1: I look at it, It's all entertainment, right. If I
Speaker 1: don't want to see something, don't go see it. If
Speaker 1: you've got a problem, you know, then Ron de Santis
Speaker 1: obviously is not going to be in watching one of
Speaker 1: your drag shows. So that's not a problem. Don't buy
Speaker 1: a ticket. But why are you going to stop other
Speaker 1: people from a making money? And for me, what if
Speaker 1: I enjoy them, that's the type of entertainment that I enjoy,
Speaker 1: I don't get it. So anyway, it's the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: said no, it's not happening, So so on we move.
Speaker 1: So I know in immigration, Trump was down by the border,
Speaker 1: you know, spouting his you know, his rhetoric. Go how
Speaker 1: he's going to stop it and blah blah blah. I
Speaker 1: am going to say to you that here in Boston
Speaker 1: we're an asylum an asylum city. Say that ten times
Speaker 1: fast and right now, because we are so full flame.
Speaker 1: We are literally using our state's transportation building to house
Speaker 1: migrant families in the conference rooms and empty office spaces,
Speaker 1: you know, off, you know, somebody left and their office
Speaker 1: is empty, and we're putting people in there for emergency shelter.
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping Congress and I'm hoping everybody's paying attention
Speaker 1: and they're voting and you know, giving us some solutions
Speaker 1: instead of everybody pointing out the problem, which is what
Speaker 1: we talk about all the time. You know, Abbott is
Speaker 1: still poking at still poking at Biden. He's furious that
Speaker 1: his that his wiring was take taken off to keep
Speaker 1: people out and all that jazz I.
Speaker 4: Will, but anyway, well, with the with the immigrants, it's
Speaker 4: bad everywhere, and it's bad in almost every city. And
Speaker 4: I was just in the open and I saw so
Speaker 4: many homeless camps in Wouvu. So they're just going to
Speaker 4: be contributed to that. What I do not understand is
Speaker 4: they have all of these closed facilities all of these
Speaker 4: old warehouses and government buildings. Allow those people to clean
Speaker 4: those places up and give them someplace to live. The
Speaker 4: winter is coming, and the winter don't care whether you're
Speaker 4: homeless or it's cold. It's cold.
Speaker 1: It's not the only thing I could think of. But
Speaker 1: you can reallocate the funds. Is a lot of these
Speaker 1: buildings are probably not safe, right. They might have lead paint,
Speaker 1: the pipes might be blah blah blah. You know, everything
Speaker 1: that we get caught for. But if all of these
Speaker 1: cities are getting some sort of money, can you take
Speaker 1: those monies and instead of I don't know, trying to
Speaker 1: put people on hotels, can you fix up the buildings instead,
Speaker 1: you know, like I don't know, figure out another way
Speaker 1: to reallocate those monies, because that's not a bad idea, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and having having buildings that aren't empty, especially
Speaker 1: in in downtrodden areas, you know, which read nothing but
Speaker 1: but miscontent or how whatever you want to say. Uh,
Speaker 1: I think having people and families living in them, that
Speaker 1: that's not necessarily a bad idea seemed to flame. That's
Speaker 1: a solution, whether we use it or not. You're bringing
Speaker 1: something to the table instead of just pointing and going,
Speaker 1: I don't like something. Speaking of rejects, this, the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court is rejecting an appeal on Derek Chavin, the the
Speaker 1: killer of George Floyd. So he didn't feel that he
Speaker 1: got a feel trial. Uh, and the Supreme Court said,
Speaker 1: you're staying in jail and he's not getting up. He's
Speaker 1: not it's not getting overturned. We're not overturning his conviction.
Speaker 4: I was very good to hear, very good to hear.
Speaker 4: I want him. I think what they should do is
Speaker 4: put a video in a video camera in his room
Speaker 4: and mind, and they should just every day, all day long,
Speaker 4: on repeat. They should show him with the same look
Speaker 4: that he had on his face, what he hid his
Speaker 4: knee on George Boy's neck and looked into the camera
Speaker 4: as if to say, you can't do anything to me.
Speaker 4: Remind him of what every day for the rest of
Speaker 4: his natural life. They should remind him of exactly how
Speaker 4: he looked and how he dealt with that.
Speaker 1: So that's how I I mean, he's got it. He's
Speaker 1: got quite the sentence right. It's twenty two and a
Speaker 1: half years in prison and then it's ten ten years
Speaker 1: and eight months to fifteen years for you know, he's
Speaker 1: got like two different crimes going and they're going to
Speaker 1: be served back to back. So the one thing that
Speaker 1: that is good that is still being upheld, at least
Speaker 1: in New York, is that we still have bands on
Speaker 1: police choke holds that you know, went through the Court
Speaker 1: of Appeals in New York and it's there's still not
Speaker 1: allowed under any circumstances to use any type of choke hold.
Speaker 1: It's not a modified, it's not a this or that.
Speaker 1: We're just not having it. So I'm sort of happy,
Speaker 1: happy to see that we need police reform. These guys
Speaker 1: need to be given other tools. We've talked about this before.
Speaker 1: I really believe that we need to have a social
Speaker 1: worker that's always on and the police, and many of
Speaker 1: the police. I mean, I have several friends at a policeman.
Speaker 1: They have degrees. So take take some some social work
Speaker 1: degree people and put them out there there. They'll be
Speaker 1: better able to deal with some of the tricky situations
Speaker 1: like this one. Something I'm not so happy to talk
Speaker 1: about mass shootings. So we're currently at for twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: six hundred and eleven, just just moments before you and
Speaker 1: I came on probably well, probably an hour and a half.
Speaker 1: There was a Chicago shooting in Chicago at in the
Speaker 1: Pullman m YEP and Walmart free shot one critically. They
Speaker 1: they the perpetrate got down while they were loading groceries
Speaker 1: in their car and got away. There also was one
Speaker 1: in Dayton, Ohio, where four people were injured.
Speaker 4: Twenty years old. He was, and he was twenty years old.
Speaker 1: Something about Walmart. Maybe they're not liking the sales. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 4: Oh no, have funny really so not I know, But
Speaker 4: here's the problem. Twenty years old, I got to twenty
Speaker 4: year olds. Here they go through the ups and downs.
Speaker 4: But I'm trying to figure out, Bobby, in twenty years
Speaker 4: what could have you so well, I can't even say
Speaker 4: that because we got teen shooters. But I hate that,
Speaker 4: and I hate that, and I hate that, Bobby. It's
Speaker 4: a holiday season, and my issue is always that it's
Speaker 4: a copycad of thing. We all are victims of going
Speaker 4: to the grocery store, going to Walmart, going shopping for
Speaker 4: the holidays, just you know and purposely privile ooh, frivolously
Speaker 4: without thinking about you know, looking over our shoulder, looking
Speaker 4: back because it's the holiday. See you on people thinking
Speaker 4: that people are in a great spirit for people in
Speaker 4: a bad state of mind, Bobby, and people are just
Speaker 4: angry and frustrated. And I don't get it. I don't
Speaker 4: understand that. I probably never will. But prayers to everybody involved,
Speaker 4: Prayers to the victims and their families. I'm not praying
Speaker 4: for me. I'm not wasting my prayers on the perpetrators.
Speaker 4: I can't. I can't waste my prayers.
Speaker 1: On that well, I can't even And I.
Speaker 4: Do believe that you can. Wait. I believe that you
Speaker 4: can waste prayers. I do believe that you can waste prayers.
Speaker 4: I'm not wasting my prayers.
Speaker 1: And it's just crazy. I mean, we have another you
Speaker 1: were just saying, being angry. In Colorado, there was a
Speaker 1: shooting where three people were killed, a woman that was
Speaker 1: critically injured. They got the guy and it was turns
Speaker 1: out it's over property lines. Playing like bullshit, you're gonna
Speaker 1: kill people over property lines. And this is the part
Speaker 1: that really gets me. You can't be too smart because
Speaker 1: you don't think they're gonna catch him, especially when you've
Speaker 1: been brought to court and you've been the police have
Speaker 1: been called over these property lines. You don't think you're
Speaker 1: the first place these people are going to go.
Speaker 4: I just I'm just your tree, Bobby. Your tree is
Speaker 4: growing over on my on my side of the walk. Yeah,
Speaker 4: your fence. Ridiculous stuff like that. Something as minute as
Speaker 4: that cut the damn bushes there.
Speaker 1: Just cut the like I can't even it's it's absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Something else that just happened. And I don't have a
Speaker 1: lot of detail it. We don't, but we just were
Speaker 1: mentioning this. We're kind of just glossing over the war
Speaker 1: in Israel. But the cabinet in Israel has agreed to whatever.
Speaker 1: We don't have the detail on it. Whatever the negotiation
Speaker 1: is for the release of prisoners. The only thing that
Speaker 1: was that I do know that was thrown out was
Speaker 1: that Hamas was looking for for every one prisoner that
Speaker 1: they would or one hostage, they wanted three Palestinian prisoners released.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they actually came to that. And
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of these Palestinian prisoners were put
Speaker 1: in without without any put into jail in Israel, without
Speaker 1: any any trial or whatnot. I don't know. They might
Speaker 1: have some sort of reason to believe that they're hermas.
Speaker 1: But I'm happy to see that maybe or hope that
Speaker 1: maybe some of these people will be home for the holidays,
Speaker 1: some of these innocent people that were again just living
Speaker 1: their life, not being I won't even say for us,
Speaker 1: just just nonchalantly living their life, walking down the street,
Speaker 1: minding their business, just like the people in the Walmart
Speaker 1: parking lot, putting their groceries in. Hopefully they'll they'll be
Speaker 1: they'll be home. So fingers and toast crust.
Speaker 4: It's very scary about it, very very crazy. Okay, let's go,
Speaker 4: let's get to something, all right, So we're moving on. Yes,
Speaker 4: it is this country. I hate that this country is
Speaker 4: going in that direction, and it just you know what
Speaker 4: it is. But it's all another one. I hate that
Speaker 4: we like that we are like that. It's another one.
Speaker 4: It's so mad to us. It's like nothing to us.
Speaker 4: Good God, it's a different time though, okay, is it
Speaker 4: is a different time.
Speaker 1: So just as just two quick things. On Trump of Colorado,
Speaker 1: judge rules that the former Trump did engage in the insurrection,
Speaker 1: but rejected an attempt to remove him this from the
Speaker 1: state ballot in twenty twenty four, finding that the Fourteenth
Speaker 1: Amendment insurrectionists fan doesn't apply to presidents. So my guess
Speaker 1: is this is probably going to go to because a
Speaker 1: lot of states want to remove him this way, This
Speaker 1: is probably going to end up going to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: But I bet that they're going to tap dance and
Speaker 1: say they're putting it back to the States. But that
Speaker 1: will be interesting. He also his gag order has been
Speaker 1: has been. I don't know if lifted is the right
Speaker 1: the right lifted?
Speaker 4: Lifting?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he can somehow talk about talk about the
Speaker 1: uh staff of the trialphy of Jack Smith's staff. I
Speaker 1: don't know how. He's not supposed to be mean, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. Everything that comes out of his mouth
Speaker 1: is mean. So that's it on Trump.
Speaker 4: I don't want the gag order was lifted so that
Speaker 4: he can still take control of the narrative of why
Speaker 4: he's in court. That's all that is ridiculous. That's what
Speaker 4: he does. He goes to the public, He goes to
Speaker 4: the court of public opinion, and he directs this train
Speaker 4: and they follow this, they sip, they stand in land.
Speaker 4: The worst he does, the more popular.
Speaker 1: I just can't believe that we are going to have
Speaker 1: another Biden Trump matchup, you know, and I hope Iiden,
Speaker 1: I mean his she's pulling and I'm hoping that people
Speaker 1: that they're pulling are just they're not great, They're not
Speaker 1: an actual representation of what the country is, because I
Speaker 1: can't believe that people are doing worse than what Trump
Speaker 1: did with all and he's had two wars to battle
Speaker 1: the COVID. He's had a lot on his plate, let
Speaker 1: me tell you. But what he also sat on his
Speaker 1: plate his birthday cake because he turned eighty one this week.
Speaker 4: He did turn eighty one. And speaking of and speaking
Speaker 4: of Trump and all the foolishness he the way that
Speaker 4: he is really controlling it, Bobby with with with what
Speaker 4: it looks like to be a cult. It's just his
Speaker 4: followers and his people who believe in and what he
Speaker 4: is so disparaging. And so now you be back to
Speaker 4: the Trump and like you said, we back down to
Speaker 4: a Trump Biden race. But I don't believe the poll
Speaker 4: numbers because Biden is doing the job. The polls, the
Speaker 4: post can be shaky, the post can be messy, but
Speaker 4: it is very scary to think that this man might
Speaker 4: get four years on the revenge kid because he's not
Speaker 4: on to he wants to do. He is on to pay.
Speaker 1: He wants to change. He wants to put federal government
Speaker 1: because that's under his control, and charge more. He wants
Speaker 1: to put the military, you know, and taking people out more.
Speaker 1: You know, like if you do something he doesn't like,
Speaker 1: they could take him, put you right in prison. He's
Speaker 1: looking for immigrants to be like whisked up, don't even
Speaker 1: have their papers checked and thrown into their country. Uh
Speaker 1: he's I mean, he's coming out right out and saying it.
Speaker 1: You know, he's telling us all exactly what he wants
Speaker 1: to do. So we people have to pay attention. Did
Speaker 1: you see that President Biden pardoned Liberty and Bowel the
Speaker 1: two turkeys, So they're not gonna they're not gonna wind
Speaker 1: up on anybody's plate for for Thanksgiving. That's kind of nice.
Speaker 4: If I'll just say this, if I was another turkey,
Speaker 4: I would be feeling some kind of way because you
Speaker 4: know how many they're going to get eaten on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 4: And what makes us best?
Speaker 5: And they let them, They let them all walk around,
Speaker 5: walk around.
Speaker 1: The Rose garden. Everything they were walking. They would walk
Speaker 1: in the walk from from the quarters right into where
Speaker 1: where the president goes into his office. I was killing
Speaker 1: myself walking the whole way. I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 1: who's cleaning up.
Speaker 4: After Here's here's a killer Bobby. They might have sur
Speaker 4: bad Thanksgiving, but would they make it through Christmas?
Speaker 1: They might be number one in line, right, so uh awful.
Speaker 1: We got a little bit more information from Joe Biden
Speaker 1: and President the Chinese president g He's President Biden seems
Speaker 1: very encouraged. He says, we're back to direct open communication.
Speaker 1: They're back to open comms with the military because that
Speaker 1: shut down. If you remember when Nancy Pelosi went to
Speaker 1: visit Taiwan, they shut all our our military calms down.
Speaker 1: So that's sort of good. They're going to crack down
Speaker 1: on fentanyl trafficking, and they're both going to work together
Speaker 1: for rapid AI developments and kind of just you know,
Speaker 1: put those, put a kind of package those up and
Speaker 1: put guidelines and bumpers on those. So that said, I thought,
Speaker 1: I thought b Lincoln's eye Secretary of Blncoln's eyes were
Speaker 1: going to pop out of his head when after they
Speaker 1: just had this whole big medium and calls Sia a dictator,
Speaker 1: which is it not true?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that is what that that is so crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh it came out of as well. But you can
Speaker 1: just know. I mean, I love Joe, but he's but
Speaker 1: that's going to do with his age. He just has
Speaker 1: he just has gaps. And he was very open about
Speaker 1: when people were saying, well, do you trust the Chinese,
Speaker 1: and he said, we got to verify. You know, you
Speaker 1: trust you, but you have to verify everything. And I thought,
Speaker 1: he's just being open, he's being transplant parent. He's letting
Speaker 1: him know he's not gonna you know.
Speaker 4: Well, that's what and that's yeah, And that's what they're
Speaker 4: saying by me that he's not doing his job because
Speaker 4: what he's still doing again is mending fences. He's fixing,
Speaker 4: fixing the cracks and the fences that the last administration
Speaker 4: left in there. We have to repair our foreign allies,
Speaker 4: we have to repair those those relationships because we need
Speaker 4: as outside of America to protect America.
Speaker 1: But it's the truth, and I think, but I think president,
Speaker 1: but he's he's an older guy. And what I mean
Speaker 1: by that is, so we don't this big, virile, you know,
Speaker 1: six foot six guy that kind of is scary by
Speaker 1: his stature, he has to kind of come out and
Speaker 1: say what he's thinking. The trust is going to be
Speaker 1: about us, you know, us having a back and forth
Speaker 1: communication and us verifying the information. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: just trust you, kyte Blanche. You know that that's what
Speaker 1: could get us into trouble here. So she thought that,
Speaker 1: you know, there is the world is big enough for
Speaker 1: two super powers, and you know that was that was
Speaker 1: sort of encouraging to hear that that he wasn't thinking
Speaker 1: one should be over the other. So let's see what happens,
Speaker 1: and let's hope that President Biden can kind of keep
Speaker 1: the work the work going and keep the gaps to
Speaker 1: a minimum. Bless us a little hard. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: better than that.
Speaker 4: And his foreign policy, and his foreign policy is what
Speaker 4: got him in the office. I believe that because he
Speaker 4: has more experience than anybody else. So for that reason
Speaker 4: and that reason alone, even though I do a few
Speaker 4: more things in America, that is why I'm rolling.
Speaker 1: He knows where the bodies are buried. He remembers, you know,
Speaker 1: he's got like a diary, and he remembers where it
Speaker 1: all is. So you know, when somebody tries to tap
Speaker 1: dance and say this isn't what happened. The last time
Speaker 1: he can say, yes, it did on February second, nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty two, and he remembers because he lived it. November
Speaker 1: twenty second is the sixtieth anniversary of JFK being killed.
Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, wow, it's My mother always talks about that.
Speaker 4: My mother and my grandmother used to talk about how
Speaker 4: sad of a day that was not just for America,
Speaker 4: but the black community. The black community absolutely loved JFK.
Speaker 4: They did, and they loved, really loved them.
Speaker 1: And Robert Kennedy. Robert Kennedy was so great, you know,
Speaker 1: they were they really believed in civil rights. I mean,
Speaker 1: the whole family, they're they're an incredible, incredible family. I
Speaker 1: just love him. You're shreiver. Her mother, Eunice started the
Speaker 1: Secial Olympics, which was so important for people who have
Speaker 1: special needs like my sister. You know, the Kennedy family
Speaker 1: had special needs and you brought them right out into
Speaker 1: the public. They brought that daughter out. So they're an
Speaker 1: incredible family. And speaking of politicians, great women, Rosalind Carter
Speaker 1: died at ninety.
Speaker 4: Six, Yeah, ninety six, ninety six. That was alone, Like
Speaker 4: the Bible says, you guarantee seventy if you live right.
Speaker 4: Anything out of that is a blessing. So she had
Speaker 4: twenty six years a blessing. She was married to Jimmy
Speaker 4: Carter for seventy seven years.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine she Wow, that is something I was
Speaker 1: joking with you, like the Kardashians can't even stay married
Speaker 1: for seventy seven days, never mind seventy seven years. But
Speaker 1: that is pretty impressive. And she the town that she
Speaker 1: was born in is the town that she died in, Plains, Georgia.
Speaker 1: So they just lived a simple life, a simple life
Speaker 1: of service. She was fifty when she when she got
Speaker 1: in in nineteen seventy seven. During her time in the
Speaker 1: White House, I mean, she was an impressive lady. She
Speaker 1: was somebody that spoke about things people don't want to
Speaker 1: speak about. She spoke about mental health and the importance
Speaker 1: of mental health and parody for mental health and physical illness.
Speaker 1: So you who has cancer should not be treated any
Speaker 1: differently or have less respect than somebody who has depression
Speaker 1: or bipolar disease. That was unheard of. It was a
Speaker 1: novel idea at the time. She was a champion for caregivers,
Speaker 1: which is something else that I have experienced. I just
Speaker 1: had not passed from Alzheimer's. And nobody thinks about the
Speaker 1: caregivers of the family. You know. She said, there are
Speaker 1: multiple types of people, people who need it, people who
Speaker 1: are going through it right now, and people who are
Speaker 1: doing it. The caregiving and how that was really important.
Speaker 1: And you know, she was a huge champion for that.
Speaker 1: They have they have the longest marriage, and she was
Speaker 1: an activist. She was big for women's rights and women
Speaker 1: getting women getting equal pay. It's something that Carter was
Speaker 1: not even to this day, was not able to get past.
Speaker 1: But she was on the board. She I mean, she
Speaker 1: was just an incredible woman, and so was he because
Speaker 1: he put her out in the forefront. She did this
Speaker 1: tour of different countries. She was the main speaker. There
Speaker 1: wasn't a secretary. It was her.
Speaker 4: But Bobby you said, you said she was an incredible woman,
Speaker 4: But so was he. He was definitely not a one.
Speaker 5: No sorry, yes, no, he said, well in nineteen seventy
Speaker 5: seven to say, it's okay for my wife to go
Speaker 5: and speak for the country, and she did, and she
Speaker 5: did so beautifully.
Speaker 1: Like Nancy Pelosi, had wonderful things, you know, she was
Speaker 1: the first woman to serve as a Speaker of the
Speaker 1: House of Representatives. Praised her as an indispensable, confident advisor
Speaker 1: to the to the President, and a pioneer on the
Speaker 1: world stage. She made hide staked diplocatic diplomatic mission to Latin.
Speaker 1: That's what I was just talking about, And Michelle Obama
Speaker 1: said she was. She was groundbreaking with the stigma facing
Speaker 1: those who struggle with mental illness. So God bless her.
Speaker 1: Hopefully she's she's at peace. And let's see how long
Speaker 1: as you have, said her husband, because he's ninety nine,
Speaker 1: Let's see how long he lasts without his wife. And
Speaker 1: he was aware, And I.
Speaker 4: Was not saying that to say that I wish any
Speaker 4: ill will and no, no, yeah, quite sometimes, but usually
Speaker 4: when people are married for a substantial amount of their lives,
Speaker 4: when one partner goes, the other one goes, and people
Speaker 4: always say, well, you know, they don't want to do
Speaker 4: without their husband. It's so much more than a husband
Speaker 4: and a wife. At that point, they are one. They
Speaker 4: are really one. Yeah, they are one. Their heart is conjoined,
Speaker 4: you know, like like as Siamese twins. So you know,
Speaker 4: it's usually I don't want to be in on this
Speaker 4: world without my person, who I've been with seventy seven years,
Speaker 4: is more than some people live their whole life, right,
Speaker 4: and to be married that's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you think. I mean so I hope
Speaker 1: their kids are almost your mom's mate age, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like they're because they had a
Speaker 1: child like within a year. So it's amazing to think
Speaker 1: that they were still inactive. I hate to see them
Speaker 1: lose because Alzheimer's is an awful way to die. But
Speaker 1: they were just incredible people. One of my favorite quotes
Speaker 1: of Jimmy Carter is when he was trying to describe
Speaker 1: what America is and where he sees it going forward,
Speaker 1: and he the quote is something like, we become not
Speaker 1: a melting pot, but a beautiful mosaic, different people, different beliefs,
Speaker 1: different yearnings, different dreams, all coming together as one. And
Speaker 1: I thought, let me just.
Speaker 4: Say this, Let me just say this. Yeah, that is beautiful, Bobby.
Speaker 4: But let me just say that I think some pictures
Speaker 4: of Jimmy Carter when he was nineteen in the military
Speaker 4: of twenty one when she married him, Jimmy Carter was
Speaker 4: the looker. Now, let me just say when he was young,
Speaker 4: and he has some black people lived. I'm like, well
Speaker 4: he kissed Roslin's whole face with them. He was a
Speaker 4: handsome young name.
Speaker 1: Well they were, and she was beautiful. She had these
Speaker 1: dainty features. They were gorgeous couple they had. I saw
Speaker 1: a wedding photo or something that they had had and
Speaker 1: I said, oh my god, they were they were lookers.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what their kids looked on. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Amy was Amy. Oh what a shame is
Speaker 1: that that was their daughter?
Speaker 4: Always say, because people always say what happened to them?
Speaker 4: They got old. I'm like, that's what happens, you get old.
Speaker 4: That is the objective of living.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh god, yeah, I mean should we
Speaker 1: all be blessed? I think that is. But these are
Speaker 1: two people. Whether you liked him as a president, if
Speaker 1: you didn't like him as a president, he got stuck
Speaker 1: with that whole around contrast thing, which just just soured everybody.
Speaker 1: They lived their life of service, They habitat for humanity.
Speaker 1: They didn't stop. I mean, she was testifying before a
Speaker 1: Senate special committee in twenty eleven, so you know she
Speaker 1: was in her earn her eighties for caregivers. For giver
Speaker 1: rights more for more help to caregivers. Did they were
Speaker 1: they were a special couple and spoke completely highly about
Speaker 1: each other. So God bless Russell and Carter.
Speaker 4: Oh and speaking of caregivers, Bobby, this is caregivers month,
Speaker 4: This is Caregivers Awareness Month. So if caregiving taking care
Speaker 4: of a family member like Bobby of her sister, if
Speaker 4: you're taking care of your mom or someone, thank you,
Speaker 4: Thank you for your service, because it is the most
Speaker 4: selfless and the probably probably one of the hardest things
Speaker 4: to do is to take care of a loved one
Speaker 4: or family member because so much they come with so much,
Speaker 4: and mostly, but mostly, you need a lot of patience. Uh,
Speaker 4: in the words of the late Dorothy's more Nat Shady
Speaker 4: Pine's man, because Ms Valerie, you know I ain't doing it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so hardly you try. I was funny.
Speaker 1: I sent my sister a picture today. They had something
Speaker 1: on Instagram. And because I go into these sites, and
Speaker 1: they said that if you are with a loved one
Speaker 1: I was a parent, chances are they will live much
Speaker 1: longer when you're contacting him all the day. So I said,
Speaker 1: And they're both this two an older woman and a
Speaker 1: younger woman smiling at each other, and I sent it
Speaker 1: to my sister Colleen, and I said, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Mom's gonna live forever if that's the truth.
Speaker 4: I said.
Speaker 1: But that said, these two people are smiling at each
Speaker 1: other and we usually have our hands around each other's throat.
Speaker 1: So maybe that I'll shave off a few years.
Speaker 4: And with the caregiving, it's a great time to go
Speaker 4: into the things. Yes, Thanksgiving has many, many meanings to
Speaker 4: many different people. I know, y'all going back to the
Speaker 4: old what it all started from with the indigenous people
Speaker 4: in Columbus, I'm not even going to all that. As
Speaker 4: an American, the way I grew up, Thanksgiving was always
Speaker 4: a time to get with family, play cards, have dinner,
Speaker 4: talk about loved ones. Your grandmother and your auntie would
Speaker 4: always slip you a twenty or envelope with a ten
Speaker 4: dollar bill and it just you know, for getting good grades.
Speaker 4: It was like that, But mostly it was about the
Speaker 4: sense of family and friends and the food. If the
Speaker 4: food was the glue that kept us all together. Everybody cooked,
Speaker 4: and it was always one person usually in our home
Speaker 4: that cooked. My grandmother did all the cooking. But then
Speaker 4: she talked my aunties the cook but people will bring
Speaker 4: other stuff in a pola. I know that we have
Speaker 4: a lot of sadness in the world right now, especially
Speaker 4: in America. We have a lot of hurt, a lot
Speaker 4: of angry people. We survived this pandemic and we're still
Speaker 4: surviving the aftermath of the pandemic. But I want you,
Speaker 4: guys to find a happy medium to push your bad
Speaker 4: feelings away, just for that day. Push it to the side.
Speaker 4: I don't like this person, I don't want to speak
Speaker 4: to this push it to the side, because I'm telling you,
Speaker 4: with the way that the world is going and the
Speaker 4: way that it is looking, how bleak the world is looking,
Speaker 4: next Thanksgiving might look very different. We might not be
Speaker 4: this comfortable. We might be in a world war situation
Speaker 4: where we can't have a turkey dinner or whatever. So
Speaker 4: embrace it, take it in, push to the said. And
Speaker 4: I know people have done herriddous things to other people.
Speaker 4: I'm the first one to say, I'm not talking to
Speaker 4: so and so and so and so, but on this day,
Speaker 4: just some Thanksgiving, Just let's just remember to give things
Speaker 4: and be grateful, because I'm telling you, we don't know
Speaker 4: what things even gonna look like. Twenty twenty four, and
Speaker 4: we might not be able to ford a turkey. They
Speaker 4: are already thirty dollars forty pound dollars a pound. They're
Speaker 4: gonna be two hundred dollars a pound to come maket year.
Speaker 1: It's the truth I am. In our family, it was
Speaker 1: always feasting football and floats because Terry loved those, loved
Speaker 1: Macy's Macy's de pearree which started in nineteen twenty four.
Speaker 1: But I am very thankful this year to be alive
Speaker 1: and to be healthy. I've had a lot of death
Speaker 1: in my family over this year, and you never know.
Speaker 1: It can be young, it can be old. So I'm
Speaker 1: thankful for that. I'm thankful for my friends and my family.
Speaker 1: I'm thank thankful to you Flame for this opportunity to
Speaker 1: do the podcast. I have had so much fun doing it.
Speaker 1: It keeps me engaged. I love it. So I want
Speaker 1: to thank you.
Speaker 4: Oh well, thank you Bobby Clivver. I'm thankful for you
Speaker 4: because you have been the one host that I have
Speaker 4: had that has really cared about this podcast, and I
Speaker 4: just want to say that publicly. That means a lot
Speaker 4: to me. It was never about the money with you,
Speaker 4: which is really, really, really about the importance of the show.
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm grateful the iHeart and Black Tape
Speaker 4: Network for three seasons Up, Laugh and Learn. Thank you
Speaker 4: to our producer Aaron Howard. But I'm grateful for my children,
Speaker 4: my family. I'm grateful that I got a home that
Speaker 4: I that I live in. It's not my home that
Speaker 4: I own, but I'm renting here and I'm comfortable here,
Speaker 4: and whatever guy got planning in the store for me,
Speaker 4: I'm here to take it all. Because I'm telling you,
Speaker 4: I know that some of my my statements can be
Speaker 4: a little controversial to some people. But I am who
Speaker 4: I am and what I am needs no excuses. I
Speaker 4: build my own deck, sometimes the ace and sometimes the deuces.
Speaker 1: You just speak your own truth, and that's what I
Speaker 1: love about you. It's not you're not putting up, You're
Speaker 1: you're speaking from your experience. You're not embellishing, You're not
Speaker 1: you're not speaking out of turn. No, so you people
Speaker 1: have to appreciate and that's what I love about you.
Speaker 4: Well, all your Thanksgiving ladies and gentlemen, have a great
Speaker 4: holiday this week and listen Black Friday, Say Friday gonna
Speaker 4: be Black Friday. For all the sales. By the way,
Speaker 4: it's black in my house every day now, just Friday,
Speaker 4: and I'm not looking for those Black Friday sales. But
Speaker 4: I appreciate you guys rolling with me and Bobby Clifford
Speaker 4: for all the time that we have. We have had
Speaker 4: a great time with Laughing Larn. We'll see what season four,
Speaker 4: if we have a season for what that comes to.
Speaker 4: But I am here for and I could not do
Speaker 4: this without my girl, Miss Took. Miss I can't. I can't,
Speaker 4: but I can't without Bobby Clifford because here at laugh Alone,
Speaker 4: we have the same message on the same model that
Speaker 4: will never change. We are never trying to get you
Speaker 4: to change your mind. We are only trying to get
Speaker 4: you to use your mind. Because why Bobby.
Speaker 1: Because a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Speaker 4: Gobble gobble, and please remember to use your mind. Critical
Speaker 4: thinking is not a conspiracy. Critical thinking is what God
Speaker 4: afforded you to have, your own way of thinking, your
Speaker 4: own heart, your own spirit, your own way of doing
Speaker 4: the things that you see Right now, beat your own drum.
Speaker 4: Somebody else may not dance to your beat, but you're
Speaker 4: not going to dance to it's either beat. Your drum
Speaker 4: and dance to the beat that you hear. I dance
Speaker 4: to my own beat. Sometimes it's off, sometimes it's on,
Speaker 4: but it's still my beat because I own it. Just
Speaker 4: like Bobby owns her beat. You need to own your beat.
Speaker 4: Own your beat because I own man. That's gonna be
Speaker 4: naming this episode. Own your Beat.
Speaker 1: What do you have coming up in December?
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving dinner? Thanksgiving Dinner? I got, I got some more
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Speaker 4: go to Queen and King Pageantry Systems page. We're gonna
Speaker 4: have a fantastic time. Thirteen down changes. I'm doing down
Speaker 4: the rows, So I'm gonna talk plenty of it, and
Speaker 4: I'm going to talk plenty of it because that's what
Speaker 4: you're paying for, So come get it, come have a
Speaker 4: great time. Thank you so much for my Bobby clip.
Speaker 4: Thank you mister Aaron Howard Flametz and people out there
Speaker 4: listen to us and laugh and learn. Hey, this was
Speaker 4: a software but we waiting for something big to happen.
Speaker 4: Trust me, trust me. Outside of all these airlines and
Speaker 4: all this travelers week, something is definitely going to happen.
Speaker 4: You say on your toes, keep your head on the
Speaker 4: swivel in the words of Ttjen, and we will see
Speaker 4: you next week for laughing learn, Peace, peace, Boby see.
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