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Speaker 1: Wow, what is up? Welcome to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Live Podcast. It's your man m G. Marcus

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Speaker 1: Grants and we had actual fall play, but then we'll

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Speaker 1: get to that a little bit later at any time.

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Speaker 1: Behind the glass, as always, it is producer Christina and Christina,

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Speaker 1: how are you? How are you? I'm doing well. How's

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Speaker 1: your weekend? It's pretty good, but pretty good. Anything special

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Speaker 1: for the weekend, not really just hanging out. Very good,

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Speaker 1: very good. I went to the I went to the museum. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I want to go check out this Egyptian is an

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Speaker 1: exhibit at the Getty Um, which I love the Getty

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Speaker 1: of a hill, it's that much closer to the sun

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Speaker 1: and on a weekend like this right exactly. Um so,

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Speaker 1: But it was fun. Otherwise, it was a good weekend.

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Speaker 1: But in the studio with me today, you've had a

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Speaker 1: rotating group of guests, which has been fun. Um a

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Speaker 1: man that you have seen across NFL Network for the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years, a guy who does fantastic work,

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Speaker 1: and a guy who will be joining us on NFL

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Live this season. Marcus took how are you I'm

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Speaker 1: well Marcus Grant, and I love the fact that it's

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Speaker 1: Marcus Granted. Marcus took right rocking it today on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is like Christmas Eve. Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: just counting down the hours until Christmas morning, which would

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Speaker 1: be the start of the regular season. We should create

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Speaker 1: like a football advent calendar something, you know, like they

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Speaker 1: do for Christmas. So when you open it up, what

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Speaker 1: a nacho one day brought worse chicken, you know, cold

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Speaker 1: copyright exactly. Well, we, as imagine, did have some football.

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Speaker 1: We will talk about the Hall of Fame game and

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Speaker 1: get his thoughts on that really smart guy and looking

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Speaker 1: forward to talking to him as well. But first let's

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Speaker 1: talk about some news. Huh. All right? We will start

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. Antonio Brown is being called day to day

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Speaker 1: with an undisclosed injury. He was sent back to Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: last week for evaluation. The Stealers are being so secretive

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Speaker 1: is injured. Miss practice for a fourth straight day on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Now the team's saying it's not really a big deal,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, Mark, it's Antonio Brown. It feels like

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Speaker 1: him not being there is always going to be a

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Speaker 1: see your star all World receiver sitting on the sidelines, right, No, exactly.

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Speaker 1: to talk to Dez Bryant's folks, So that that all

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Speaker 1: bit strange there Over to New England, Sony and Michelle

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Speaker 1: But uh, I mean, I'm I'm rooting for him just

427
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Speaker 1: because I think he plays a fun style of football. Absolutely, No,

428
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Speaker 1: I think you played the fun, fun style of football.

429
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Speaker 1: And I'm interested to see him working with Andy Reid

430
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Speaker 1: and have a chance to be a full time starter

431
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Speaker 1: in Kansas City. Should be pretty pretty interesting. And that's

432
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Speaker 1: that's pretty much all the news that do you need

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Speaker 1: to know? All right, Well, over the weekend, I guess

434
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Speaker 1: last week, I should say on Thursday, Uh, the NFL

435
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Speaker 1: season sort of kicked off. We had our first preseason

436
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Speaker 1: game of the year, the Hall of Fame Game. Ravens

437
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 1: beat the Bears seventeen to sixteen. It was not necessarily

438
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Speaker 1: the most exciting affair. We pretty much saw next to

439
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Speaker 1: no orders. But there's always something I think that can

440
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Speaker 1: be learned from preseason games. You learned how coaches are

441
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Speaker 1: gonna operate a little bit. You see, they're not your

442
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: Neither team went deep into the playbook, but you kind

443
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Speaker 1: of got a sense of what they wanted to do. Uh.

444
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Speaker 1: Some of the highlights Robert Griffin the third, fifty eight

445
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Speaker 1: passing yards, a touchdown in a pick. Lamar Jackson, who

446
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: we were all excited to see, uh twenty five rushing yards.

447
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 1: He had thirty three passing yards, a touchdown and an interception.

448
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Speaker 1: So I Chase Daniel get a lot of work for

449
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Speaker 1: the Bears. He had a touchdown, a couple of picks.

450
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Speaker 1: Benny Cunningham ran the ball well early on Javon Whims,

451
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a surprise. Seven catches in eighty

452
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Speaker 1: nine yards there for the Bears. But you know again,

453
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Speaker 1: I know people kind of pooh pooh uh preseason saying

454
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Speaker 1: there's nothing to be learning in there, but I think

455
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Speaker 1: there's always something. And for you Mark, going into this,

456
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Speaker 1: did you have any expectations of what you wanted to see?

457
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Speaker 1: And if so, did did you see what you you

458
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Speaker 1: hope to see? I wanted to see Lamar Jackson. I

459
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Speaker 1: think I'm I'm certainly uh in good company there. I

460
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Speaker 1: I was hoping to see some flashes. And I thought, again,

461
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Speaker 1: Benny Cunningham, Uh, even just the way you can kind

462
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Speaker 1: of throw out the statue, just the way he ran

463
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Speaker 1: the football, I thought I felt decisive. It was interesting

464
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Speaker 1: to have watched r G three play in this game

465
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Speaker 1: and then Lamar Jackson, because it's a contrast in styles

466
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Speaker 1: for guys who are very similar obviously in their skill set. Um,

467
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Speaker 1: but I thought watching Robert early in that game, it

468
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Speaker 1: felt like I was watching the same RG three I've

469
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Speaker 1: seen in recent years. Nothing really surprised me. He you know,

470
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Speaker 1: has an arm sometimes meals sometimes, but I've always felt

471
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Speaker 1: like he was very indecisive runner at this level, at

472
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Speaker 1: least after his rookie year. Then you look at Lamar Jackson,

473
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Speaker 1: not scared yet, I mean, decisive, knows where he's gonna

474
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Speaker 1: go electric. Um. Again, the comparisons I think are a

475
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Speaker 1: little too easy to make too r G three, But

476
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Speaker 1: to have seen him in the same game, Uh, Look,

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Speaker 1: you don't love the numbers from Lamar, but I'm just

478
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Speaker 1: happy to see in place of football right now. We're

479
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Speaker 1: all excited, and I you know it was for for

480
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Speaker 1: people watching it, especially to kind of follow along on Twitter.

481
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Speaker 1: You could sense the frustration from the fans because we

482
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Speaker 1: wanted to see Lamar right now, right away, and and

483
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Speaker 1: the Ravens held him off until the second half, which,

484
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Speaker 1: if if you're NBC, was great because you know, it

485
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Speaker 1: kept it kept viewers into the third quarter. But I'm

486
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Speaker 1: with you, he wasn't He wasn't terrible, he wasn't great.

487
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Speaker 1: It was just it was sort of like he was

488
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Speaker 1: kind of feeling out the game a little bit. Sure Again,

489
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Speaker 1: the knock on him coming out was that here's a

490
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Speaker 1: guy who, from his biggest critics, is not capable of

491
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Speaker 1: playing at the next level. I think that what we saw,

492
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Speaker 1: at least in a meaningless preseason game, show that, hey,

493
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Speaker 1: he doesn't not belong out here. So all right, so

494
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Speaker 1: now that we've set that as hopefully the floor, where

495
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Speaker 1: can he go? What's next? I think that's that's the

496
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Speaker 1: big key. I mean, you know, I think in our

497
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Speaker 1: wildest dreams, at least in my wildest dreams, at some

498
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Speaker 1: point he he pushes Joe Flacco for the starting job,

499
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Speaker 1: and not right away. I mean, I think if we

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Speaker 1: saw anything, it's that Flacco is is cemented as the

501
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Speaker 1: starter there in Baltimore, at least in you're early part

502
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Speaker 1: of the season. But I want to watch Lamar Jackson

503
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Speaker 1: developed and watch him grow, and and I still kind

504
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Speaker 1: of hold out hope that, uh, either he pushes Flak

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Speaker 1: out or even if things kind of go sideways in

506
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Speaker 1: Baltimore midway through the season that that John Harbaugh decides

507
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Speaker 1: let's let's get the kid in here and see what

508
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Speaker 1: he can do. I also think, I mean, look, having

509
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Speaker 1: watched him play in college, here's a guy who is

510
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Speaker 1: just electric, and he he might be r G three,

511
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Speaker 1: he might flash out on the scene and and and

512
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Speaker 1: surprise you and then have a mediocre career after that.

513
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Speaker 1: But the way he played at Louisville that Heisman season

514
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Speaker 1: what should have been two Eisman season statistically, I just

515
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Speaker 1: feel like he's one of those guys where when he

516
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Speaker 1: gets on the field, he makes things happen, and there

517
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Speaker 1: are so few guys at his level. I mean, it

518
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: was you know, peque Michael Vick. We saw that same

519
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Speaker 1: skill level in terms of just wow, eye popping moments.

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Speaker 1: I hope that we see more of it. Obviously, they

521
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: took him for a reason. I think this kid deserves

522
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Speaker 1: a show to establish himself as an NFL quarterback, right

523
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: and he's a guy who, certainly in dynasty leagues is

524
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: drawing a lot of attention. You know, he's not gonna

525
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Speaker 1: get drafted in a lot of just regular redrafts leagues

526
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Speaker 1: just because right now, there's no opportunity for him to start.

527
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Speaker 1: But you know you mentioned r G three. I think

528
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Speaker 1: another name that that people have brought up is Deshaun

529
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Speaker 1: Watson as a guy who was who's moment we saw

530
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Speaker 1: in Houston last year. You know, they started the year

531
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Speaker 1: with Tom Savage. The offense wasn't going anywhere, the offensive

532
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Speaker 1: line was bad. Deshaun Watson comes in and just his

533
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Speaker 1: mobility alone changed things. The fact that even with an

534
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Speaker 1: offensive line that struggled to protect him, he could get

535
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Speaker 1: out of the pocket, he could extend plays. And I

536
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Speaker 1: think the the hope is there that Lamar Jackson can

537
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Speaker 1: kind of be that same guy. Well, and I'm glad

538
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Speaker 1: that you brought up Deshaun Watson because the again, you

539
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Speaker 1: look at the teams that passed on him, and I

540
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Speaker 1: don't know how you watched him play Clemson and the

541
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Speaker 1: caliber of play that he both went up against and

542
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Speaker 1: how well he played in those games and quitted himself

543
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: and and look, winners know how to win. And I

544
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Speaker 1: to me, I'm not a scout. You know, I'm not

545
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah breaking films, So I don't claim to have

546
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: that kind of insight, but I know when you watch

547
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: guys that just have that that special something where they

548
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: know how to win, that that matters to me. Yeah. No,

549
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Speaker 1: I mean especially when you talk about Watson. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is the guy who went toe to toe with Alabama, Yes,

551
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Speaker 1: multiple years in a row. You know, um, which you know,

552
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: the pre eminent college football program, the closest thing. I

553
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Speaker 1: guess like like a four A. It's somewhere between you know,

554
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Speaker 1: college and NFL or like a four A program sort of,

555
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Speaker 1: and and Deshaun Watson went toe to toe. And I

556
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Speaker 1: think I think that's great topic for another time. Could

557
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: the Alabama defense like where would they rank? Would they

558
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: be thirty one, would they be thirty three? Would they be?

559
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Speaker 1: Where's He's a fun conversation. Yeah, went real quick about

560
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Speaker 1: RG three two. I mean you mentioned you saw kind

561
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: of what you're used to seeing with him. Is it enough?

562
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he sticks with Baltimore. I think they've

563
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: got their guys, But is it enough that maybe somebody

564
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: else gives him a shot this year? What I think

565
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: is so hard about r G three watching him playing,

566
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Speaker 1: trying to judge, you know, what his game could look

567
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: like as a successful NFL quarterback is he shows you

568
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 1: those flashes. He'll spin out of a tackle, he will

569
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: put a ball on a dime to somebody forty yards

570
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: down field, and it looks effortless, and then he has

571
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: this just ridiculous bone headed decision, or he takes an

572
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: awkward tackle. He you know, it's like a guy never

573
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: learned how to slide. You watch Russell Wilson and Seattle.

574
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: If I was RG three, I would just watch loops

575
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: of him sliding and avoiding contact. That's what I feel

576
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: like makes him so frustrating to try to evaluate is

577
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: which can he continue to focus on the things he

578
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: does well and minimize the things he doesn't. He's talk

579
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: about him getting hit like it's just something about him,

580
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: when when he gets hit it looks worse than awkward.

581
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: And he even had the other night, there was one

582
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: where he sprints out of bounds and he gets tackled

583
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: and it's like he plants his leg weird and like

584
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: Ben's funny, and you're like, dude, you've had what feels

585
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: like twenty two knee surgeries learned how to slide. I know.

586
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: I figured, you know, when he was in Washington and

587
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: now in Baltimore, like there are major League Baseball teams

588
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: in those cities. Why not why not pair him up

589
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: with the oracles, like, send him over to the Orioles,

590
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: the camping yards and get some sliding prow Go Look,

591
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: worst comes to worst. Go find a little league team

592
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: that has a slipping slide set up with their practice slides. Right,

593
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: get yourself something, man, because he really, I mean, had

594
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Speaker 1: he been able to stay healthy in his NFL career,

595
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: maybe I think it's a different situation. Yeah, right, I

596
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: think it is. You know, the reps, the ability to

597
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: not play scared, No, I think right, So I don't know.

598
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm curious. I would like to see him get

599
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: a shot somewhere. I don't think it's gonna be in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: We'll see whether or not. You know. That's that's step

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Speaker 1: of the things that I love about fantasy football Twitter

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Speaker 1: talk to it was Graham Barfield, senior analyst at Fantasy Guru.

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Speaker 1: You'd find him on Twitter at Graham Barfield. Graham, how

641
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Speaker 1: you doing. I'm doing well. I'm doing well. It's great

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Speaker 1: to talk to you again, Marcus. So I appreciate you're

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Speaker 1: having me on the show here. Yeah. Absolutely, Well. One

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Speaker 1: of the things that you have done is that you're

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Speaker 1: the person who invented the yards created statistic, and so,

646
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Speaker 1: for for the uninitiated, just explained briefly what is yards created.

647
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Speaker 1: Sure yards created is kind of this proprietary statistic that

648
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: I've started in two thousands, sixteen, and it measures college

649
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Speaker 1: running back performance and Basically, the easiest way I can

650
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: explain it is that it measures what the running back

651
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: actually accounts for in his own So we all know

652
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: offensive line and in running back play is highly, highly correlated.

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Speaker 1: But what yards Created tries to do is separate the

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Speaker 1: offensive line yardage blocked, and the yard the running back

655
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Speaker 1: creates after the offensive line has or has not done

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Speaker 1: his job. All right, So because of that and you

657
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Speaker 1: went through I know you have the last couple of

658
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Speaker 1: years have kind of ranked some of the incoming running

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Speaker 1: backs based on on how they scored. Uh, this year,

660
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: no surprise, se Kwon Barkley is his head and shoulders

661
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: above everybody else. I think, you know, every fantasy analyst

662
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Speaker 1: has talked about se Kwon to the ends of the earth.

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Speaker 1: So we'll kind of move away from him. But your

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Speaker 1: next down, Sony Michelle, Um, you know is a guy

665
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Speaker 1: that that certainly is interesting. I know a lot of

666
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: fantasy folks have have gotten really high on him. Uh,

667
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: he scored very well in Yards Created. Now he's in

668
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Speaker 1: a backfield that I know the Patriots. Generally, the Patriots

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Speaker 1: backfield tends to scare people. But I think we started

670
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Speaker 1: to kind of cut through some of the noise there.

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Speaker 1: But now with Sony Michelle, there are we limiting him

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Speaker 1: just by kind of saying he's the He's the new

673
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: Dion Lewis. Is that what he is? Or is he

674
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Speaker 1: more than that? Sony Michelle was fantastic in my yards

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Speaker 1: created metrics, Marcus Um. I know George's offensive line was

676
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: top notch in factor, actually first in yards of block

677
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: per attempt over the last three years. The Michelle routinely

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00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: created on his own on a per carry basis. In fact,

679
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: over the last three years, Michelle wearings only second Joe

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Speaker 1: mix and in percentage of carries to create five or

681
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: more yards. U se Kwon Barkley, Alvin Kamara, and Kareem

682
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: Hunt round out that top five over the last three

683
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Speaker 1: draft classes. And again like Michelle was dominant UH when

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Speaker 1: Georgia faced neutral boxes, so a neutral box would be

685
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: there's no blocking advantage um the offensive line and the

686
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 1: blocking scheme is matched up to the defense. Michelle actually

687
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: led the class and yards created versus neutral bloxes, averaging

688
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: nearly six point eight yards created per a tenth in

689
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Speaker 1: those situations. That was two full yards above the class average.

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Speaker 1: The bigger biggest concern right now for me, Marcus is

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Speaker 1: Michelle's knee. Um, he has kind of an expensive injury

692
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Speaker 1: history going back to even high school, and now he

693
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: just had his knee drained and it sounds like he's

694
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: gonna miss probably the majority of the preseason. I know

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00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: about you, Marcus, but I was pretty heavily targeting these

696
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: Patriots running back like I do almost every year. But

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Speaker 1: it's pretty unfortunate that Michelle sounds like he's gonna miss

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Speaker 1: some significant time with some significant practice reps with the Patriots. Yeah,

699
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: and I know that's that's definitely a big concern for

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00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: a guy that, again I think people had high hope for.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how much do you feel like that's going

702
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: to knock him down draft value wise? I was targeting

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Speaker 1: pretty heavily, heavily in the fourth and fifth round of

704
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: of my drafts. I think right now the sweet spot

705
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: will probably be in that late six. I think I

706
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: would take Rex Burke head over him to start. But

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00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: you gotta keep in mind. Keep in mind here Michelle

708
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: flash big receiving potential at Georgia and actually tied with

709
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Speaker 1: se Kwon Barkley and pass protection execution rate at It

710
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: was the second best clip for any rookie running back

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Speaker 1: over the last three years. So Michelle can do it all.

712
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: He's a fantastic runner who creates on his own flash

713
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: big receiving potential and he's great. He's a great pass protector.

714
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: But again it's the Patriots. We know Belichick likes to

715
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: play tricks with his running backs. I'm still investing in

716
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Speaker 1: Michelle when he kind of slips into that six and

717
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Speaker 1: seventh round range. But I think Burke head Is is

718
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: the running back you want to own at this point.

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Speaker 1: In New England, one of the guys you he said

720
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Speaker 1: was underrated according to yards created, was a Rashad Penny

721
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Speaker 1: And I know right after the draft people were very

722
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Speaker 1: high on him. I mean, you know, the thought being

723
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Speaker 1: that the you know, the Seahawks went and got him early.

724
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Speaker 1: There there must be something there, right, And now you know,

725
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: we're hearing stuff about Chris Carson and Pete Carroll is

726
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: talking up Chris Carson. Is this is this just a

727
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: smoke screen? Is this potentially just going to be a

728
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: committee there in Seattle? You think, well, Pete Carroll is

729
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: the ever optimist, Like everything that comes out of its

730
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: mouth is optimistic. Um, I've learned through my years in

731
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: fantasy listening to Pete Carroll and trying to diagnose what

732
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: he says to just take everything with a grain of salt. Um.

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Speaker 1: That being said, let's just look through common sense, right like,

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Speaker 1: Shad Penny was a surprise first round pick. Um. I

735
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Speaker 1: don't know if the Setaks should have spent the early

736
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: draft capital on a running back with their roster, but

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Speaker 1: they did, and Rashad Penny smashed yards. Credit. He was fantastic, Marcus.

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Speaker 1: He's actually the only running back in the class to

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00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: post above average yards created per a tent figures both

740
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Speaker 1: against stack and neutral fronts. The stack box is any

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Speaker 1: any play where a running back faces at least at

742
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: least one extra defender in the box, and to that point,

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00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: Penny was fantastic in between the tackles. We know the

744
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: Seahawks run blocking scheme of the last couple of years

745
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: has not been very great under their former offensive line

746
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: excuse excuse me there offensive line coach Tom Cable. But

747
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: Penny was great. Um. He's the fifth best runner in

748
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: between the tackles over the last three years, behind only

749
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 1: Joe Nixon, Kamara Hunt, and a guy named Ezekiel Elliott.

750
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: Um Shan Penny is fantastic. I think he's going to

751
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: push for three touches. I don't know how official will

752
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: be with the Seahawks offensive line and Brian Schottenheimer calling

753
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: the plays that I kind of think it's more of

754
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: a smoke screen. I don't necessarily think we're looking at

755
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: a full blown committee here. Dogging to Graham Barfield, Senior

756
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: analysts had fantasy Guru talking about yards created for some

757
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: of these rookie running backs coming into the league this year.

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00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: One that is near and dear to my heart, just

759
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: because I'm a USC alum, is Ronald Jones, and I

760
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: know you wrote that he was one that you've sort

761
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: of had a hard time figuring out. Um, just because

762
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Speaker 1: of you know, between you USC offensive line not being

763
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: all that great, but Rojo himself struggling to kind of

764
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: create yards on his own. Now he lands in Tampa

765
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: with an offensive line that that's just sort of middle

766
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Speaker 1: of the road. I mean, how do you see this

767
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: potentially working out? Sure, yeah, the start USC's offensive line

768
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: but was pretty poor. Um, I think their second or

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Speaker 1: third worst in the class this past year. But Ronald

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Speaker 1: Jones was definitely an enigma for me. Amongst this year's

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Speaker 1: running back crop, Jones ranked second worst and yards created

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00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: for a tenth created five and five or more yards

773
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: on just twenty two of his rushes. That was the

774
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: third worst clip in the class. Is packs pro execution

775
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: rate Marcus was fifty. That would the worst clip in

776
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: yards created history again over the last three years. But

777
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: we got to look at this situation. Even though yards

778
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: created data kind of had some pretty big red flags

779
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: in it, the Bucks backfield is wide open. His only

780
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: competition for touches is Jaquiz Rogers Peyton Barber, who is

781
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: you know, a fine, you know, fine backup running back.

782
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: But it's nothing special in terms of his ability to

783
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: create after after contact enforced miss tackles dirt Cutter has

784
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay even with all of their kind of

785
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: mismatched pieces over the last couple of years, he's preferred

786
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: to work for running back on his lead running back

787
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: in any starting game. His average sixty percent of team

788
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: carries in that game. That very very high. Only five

789
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: running backs I saw or more team carried last year.

790
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Speaker 1: So I'm I'm in on road Joe big time this year.

791
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: I know, I know you're a USC fan. Usc Alum Um,

792
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: I've kind of turned my I guess that analysis around

793
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: a little bit on Road Joe, just because he's still

794
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: pretty cheap and fantasy, and I really like the fact

795
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: that the backfield is wide open there in Tampa Bay. Yeah,

796
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: I do think he's a good fit. I mean, I

797
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: agree that he did struggle sort of in the open

798
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: field a little bit. I you know, I feel like

799
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: he's a he's definitely worth taking a shot at, especially

800
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: in the middle round. So, um, you know, I do

801
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: like the situation there. One guy who's I just have

802
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: not been as big on Royce Freeman as I think

803
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people are, and I know that he

804
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: didn't score too well in in yards created and now

805
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: it seems like he is locked in a battle with

806
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: the Vontae Booker. I mean, I don't know, am I

807
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: crazy for just thinking that? I I really just want

808
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: to wash my hands of the dinner for backfield right now. Yeah,

809
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm with you, and we're locked up here. I've been

810
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: targeting Devontae Booker on the double digit round and kind

811
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: of ignoring voice Ringman in that fifth and sixth round range. Um.

812
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: I get he was a huge producer at Oregon. He

813
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: had almost well over six yards of scrimmage in college.

814
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: But I mean his yards create today was just kind

815
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: of that. Um. He's a forty five percentile score in

816
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: terms of his yards created per attempt on inside carries,

817
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: forty two percentile outside carries kind of below average, and

818
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: the tackles force per attempt um just not that great

819
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: of yards created data. And now he has to go

820
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: battle touches with Devontae Booker. My I guess the only

821
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: redeeming factor here Marcus for me is I think the

822
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: Broncos will go really run heavy with their kind of

823
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: retooled revamp defense this year and with better quarterback play

824
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: in case Keenum. Over the last two year's Denver's the

825
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: twelfth most run heavy team when the score is neutral,

826
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: and they're actually the second most round heavy team when

827
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: they're ahead by three or more points. So words Freeman

828
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: definitely had you know, two hundred, two hundred twenty carries

829
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: and his range of outcomes. But for me, it's kind

830
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Speaker 1: of hard to target a fifth or you know, you know,

831
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: target of running back in the fifth or sixth round

832
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: if I can't guarantee they're gonna catch more than twenty

833
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: five or thirty balls. It's kind of just a shake.

834
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: Keep that for me in those mid rounds. Speaking with

835
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: Graham bar Field from Fantasy Guru staying in Denver, you

836
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: wrote about some of your favorite mid round receivers and

837
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: you had Emmanuel Sanders in that list, and you know,

838
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: obviously at least what seems to be an upgraded quarterback

839
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Speaker 1: with Case Keenum coming in, Sanders working out of the slot. Keenum,

840
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: you mentioned, likes to throw to guys in the slot.

841
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: Does this mean there's a revival in the works there, Oh, yes,

842
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: Mandy Sanders this year. Um. Look, I mean over the

843
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: last two years. I don't think people really realized this

844
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: because Manny was kind of in now the line up

845
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: last year dealing with a pretty bad ankle problem. But

846
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: over the last two years, Damaris Thomas has seen eight

847
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: point nine targets per game. That's nearly a twenty five

848
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 1: percent Sheriff Denver targets, while Sanders opportunity has been right

849
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: behind him. Sanders average eight point five targets per game,

850
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: nearly a PC share in that span. Um, you mentioned

851
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: that um Case Keenum likes to throw to his slot receivers,

852
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: and he and Adam Feeland had a fantastic connection last year.

853
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 1: Feeling ran about fifty of his roots from the slot

854
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: last year, and Manny Sanders slot usages increased now three

855
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: years in a row. Last year, UM just under thirty

856
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: percent of his total roots came from the slot last year.

857
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: I think he'll be their interior receiver again now that

858
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton is there and Damaris Thomas is stuck on

859
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: the outside. That the Broncos have a fantastic three receiver set,

860
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: especially of Courtland Sutton is as good as the camp

861
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: reports are coming out. So I think Sanders is a

862
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: fantastic six seventh Days round pick. I've you know, taken

863
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: him in you know, the ninth round of value. I've

864
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: moved up and taken him into the sixth round just

865
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: because I love him so much. This year, I think

866
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: he's a he's got a decent chance to actually score

867
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: out outscore DT and Fantasy UH. And then Nelson Agalor,

868
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: I mean obviously had a breakout season last year in Philadelphia,

869
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: and I know he's a guy that that you really

870
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: this year, I'd love to see him keep it going

871
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: if he could. Any concerns though that maybe Mike Wallace

872
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: kind of takes away a little bit from from what

873
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: Alcala ends up doing. I like Mike Wallace late too,

874
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: you know, Marcus. One of my biggest things in fantasies.

875
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: I want to just target cheap pieces of great passing offenses.

876
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: And I know Carson Wentz coming off in a c L,

877
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: we're expecting maybe his touchdowns to progress a little bit

878
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: this year. But Aglar has ha stayed in that ninth

879
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: or tenth round while I was Ashan Jeffrey is routinely

880
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: in fourth or fifth round pick. I kind of just

881
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: don't get it. Um. Agilar saw twenty five fewer targets

882
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: in the regular season than alshon Jeffrey, but he finishes

883
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: the wide receiver thirty and fantasy points for a game,

884
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: whereas Jeffrey was a wide receiver twenty eight over the

885
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: whole season, a twenty red zone targets to Jeffreys twenty one.

886
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: And I know we're kind of drafting Jeffrey for the

887
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 1: touchdown upside, but in terms of usage last year, Agwar

888
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: and Jeffrey in the red zone where we're nearly similar.

889
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: So for me, I'm targeting av Adler helped heavily in

890
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: the ninth and tenth round and kind of just avoiding Alshan,

891
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: Jeffrey cost alright, Graham. As I like to do with

892
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: all my guests here, I like to kind of ask

893
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: them sort of a pick to pop, just a piece

894
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: of pop culture. It's a movie, book, TV music, whatever

895
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: like that. You're kind of digging right now that I

896
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 1: feel like everybody should check out my big thing right now,

897
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: Marcus is. I've been dinging and actually rewatching the whole

898
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: Peaky Blinders season. All four seasons are on Netflix. It

899
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: was originally a BBC show, and I think Netflix bought

900
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 1: the right. But it's got like two of my favorite

901
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 1: actors ever, Kelly and Murphy and Tom Hardy, and they

902
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: have just a few scenes in the show, but they're

903
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: always classics. Um. It's kind of a set in the

904
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: you know, post World War era in England about a

905
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: gang and it's just great music. The shot extremely well

906
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: and the acting is phenomenal. So I don't know, have

907
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: you have you seen unders yet? I have not. And

908
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: you say Tom Hardy's in. My first question then is

909
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: does he actually does he actually? Do you see his face?

910
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: I feel like every and everything Tom Hardy is in,

911
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: he's like wearing a mask. Or something. So do you

912
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: actually get to see his face in this? You did?

913
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: Wife is in it too, which I was very surprised.

914
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: His wife is as well. And Tom does work hat

915
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: most of the time. But no, you can you can

916
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: see his face. He's fantastic in the show. All right, cool,

917
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,479
Speaker 1: I will. I will definitely check that out, Graham. Fantastic stuff.

918
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: Appreciate you coming by him, Man, Keep doing what you do, man,

919
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Thanks for your time, Marcus Hey,

920
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: thanks to Graham Barfield for stopping buy. You can check

921
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: him out at Fantasy Gurgury. You can also find him

922
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: on Twitter, of course at Graham Barfield. Love talking to

923
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: that guy. A very smart guy, Lots lots of good stuff.

924
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: The um. One thing we didn't talk about Mark when

925
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 1: we talked about the Hall of Fame game, the new

926
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: helmet rules and new tackling rules. You know, it was

927
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: certainly a source of confusion coming into this into that game.

928
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: After the game, I don't know that we've cleared anything up.

929
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: I think we are equally as confused. Is it is

930
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: this gonna be an overbearing rule or is this just

931
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: too soon to panic? Because we only had one actual

932
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: game with this mean, I think we are going to

933
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: see a lot more confusion and head scratching before it's

934
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: all sudden done. I think we're going to see more

935
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: analysts way in, just like we did the other night.

936
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: I can't figure this rule out. I don't understand that.

937
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. I'm want somebody who I think. I

938
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: think I'm an outlier when you talk to a lot

939
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: of fans, I am generally in favor of any rule

940
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: that is designed to make the game safer. And you know,

941
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: we were there this summer when we heard from um

942
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: al Rivereria about a river on about why this rule

943
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: is important, why we need to just do whatever we

944
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: can to make the game as safe as possible for UM,

945
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: for players. And I think there's going to be a

946
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: pretty steep learning curve when it comes to how they

947
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: apply calling this rule, how they are able to get

948
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: defenders to tackle better, where they keep the head out

949
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: of it. I think there's going to be incidental contact,

950
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: which to most people looks like football that they've always

951
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: seen and rooted for, that's gonna get called. So yeah,

952
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: I do think it's gonna be a lot more. Uh,

953
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: there'll be more controversy more handeringing pro clutching about this

954
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: UH in the weeks and months to come. Yeah, I'm

955
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: there is going to be an adjustment period, I think

956
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: for players and then officials alike. UM as to to

957
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: what gets called, how it gets called. I'm curious to

958
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: see how much it changes the way guys play. I mean,

959
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about guys who have been playing

960
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: football their whole lives now suddenly being asked to do

961
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: something you know that is kind of foreign to them.

962
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: So I do think there's gonna be an adjustment period.

963
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: But like everything else in this league, people find a

964
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: way that I think adjust and move on, right. Yeah,

965
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean we have how much inc has been spilled

966
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: about the catch rule. My hope and I do believe

967
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: that the league's UH motives are in the right place here,

968
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: and I think that we'll see how the first weeks,

969
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: the first months of this go, how the first season

970
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: of it goes, and I imagine we'll see some tweaking. Um.

971
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's going to affect outcomes of games, you know,

972
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: big calls and big moments. Um. But at the end

973
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: of the day, personally, I don't have fun. It's not

974
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: fun for me to see a guy get carted off

975
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: on a stretcher. It's not fun for me to see

976
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: a guy, uh quit playing football because of an injury

977
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: that could have been prevented by a rule like this.

978
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna wring our hands about it,

979
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: but I hope in the long run it's for the

980
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: health of players, of the health of the league. I

981
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: agree absolutely, So we'll keep an eye on it. It'll

982
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: be interesting too. I'm sure we'll be discussed ad nauseum

983
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: before the end of the year. Finally, look at that

984
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: drum loop. All right, that's a couple of tweets before

985
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: we get out of here. One from Armando south Caro,

986
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: who covers the Miami Dolphins, and Uh, in case you

987
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: haven't seen Adam Days the list of Frank Gorey Kenyan

988
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: Drake as an either war on the depth chart. People

989
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: asked him why he did that, and he said, quote,

990
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: just to be a police hoole. Let's just say he

991
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: was a b hole and he studied real hard and

992
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: moved up one. Uh. Can we just put a beep

993
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: in there, even if we don't really say the word right,

994
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: just to be in it's done. Um, this is just

995
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: this is like, this is training camp smoke screening stuff. Right.

996
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. But I like the fact that he

997
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: owns it. He just said, I'm just doing this to

998
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: mess with guys. Cool. That's all right. I'm dealing with that.

999
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: Last one treat from Chris. How about a section on

1000
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: the show where you dressed early round bench warmers. There's

1001
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: always instances where people me started players just because I

1002
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: drafted him early and they scored zero issues. As an

1003
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: analyst to guide me would help, as would using you

1004
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: as a scapegoat. Chris. If you want to use me

1005
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: as escapegoat, go right ahead. I have been called worse

1006
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: things than being an escapegoat. By the way, I love

1007
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: the fact you drafted a guy early, so you gotta

1008
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: start up. It's not like you're paying in money. It's

1009
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: not like you're an owner and you drafted in the

1010
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: first round. You gotta get an r O. I people

1011
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: people seem to have this like this, this this this

1012
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: attachment to the early round draft picks like they have

1013
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: to they have to play it. That's just how people feel.

1014
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: So anyway, that will do it for this edition of

1015
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Live Podcast. Thanks a grand bar Field.

1016
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: Thanks to bark instruct for stopping by, and thanks as

1017
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: always to producer Christina behind the Glass. Always remember real

1018
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: Jee's moving silence like lasagna. We'll see you on Thursday.

1019
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: Don't go, don't go.