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Speaker 1: Countdown to Kickoff continues ahead of Week eight the Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: Jaguars and the Pittsburgh Steelers, and on the call on

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports, it's analyst Charles Davis, our good friend, back

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Speaker 1: at it again. Old Jaguars Steelers matchup to get you

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Speaker 1: going right, oh.

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Speaker 2: Man, exciting right. This feels like back to the future,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it, because of all the times in the past.

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Speaker 2: And what I like is both of these teams have

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Speaker 2: that same identity that we remembered because the Jags kind

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Speaker 2: of lost that for a while. And what I mean

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Speaker 2: by that is tough, hard nose, just that old school identity.

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Speaker 2: You know. Meet you in the parking lot on Sunday

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Speaker 2: you want to throw down, I'll be there. I'm still

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Speaker 2: remembering Marcus Stroud, John Henderson just beat you to a pulp.

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Speaker 2: Donovan Darius coming up from the secondary laying Wood. Steelers

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Speaker 2: have always had that. We know that their down year

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Speaker 2: is nine to eight now because we place it seventeen games.

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Speaker 2: That's where we are. But both teams collisions body on body,

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Speaker 2: and that team has it now. I know Doug Peterson's

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Speaker 2: an offensive coach, that's what his reputation is. But Mike

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Speaker 2: Caldwell's defense. Oh they don't strike you now, I mean

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Speaker 2: you watch it from every level, they're going to strike you.

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Speaker 2: This's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Fun, Carls. This Jaguars team won four games in four

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Speaker 1: stadiums in three cities over a seven time zone span

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Speaker 1: to go from one to two to five and two.

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Speaker 1: What does that tell you about the resilience of the

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Speaker 2: Well, it just tells you that they have a plan,

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Speaker 2: they put it into effect. They have a better team,

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Speaker 2: and when you have a better team, you can handle

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Speaker 2: a lot of things. Because a Jaguars team of three

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Speaker 2: four years ago with that no shot, and even if

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Speaker 2: they'd handled it, well, no shot, they weren't good enough.

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Speaker 2: But now they're good enough. They have a plan to

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Speaker 2: have a head coach is like, that's what's on the schedule.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go play it. But here's how we're gonna

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Speaker 2: get there and handle it as best we can. And

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Speaker 2: I think that it was somewhat fortuitous that they like

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Speaker 2: being London's team. Okay, cool, he wants to stay for

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Speaker 2: two weeks, no problem. Well that second week there, I

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Speaker 2: think played a big part in beating Buffalo. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to take any credit away. What they did on

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Speaker 2: the field was outstanding, but Buffalo was trying to figure

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Speaker 2: think it helps, and Jacksonville took full advantage of it.

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Speaker 2: But I just like the fact that they don't care. Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is where we go, this is when we play, this,

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Speaker 2: when we show up. Here's the preparation we're gonna use

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Speaker 2: to get there. Now, let's go turn it loose. And

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Speaker 2: they've done it.

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Speaker 1: Girl's Davis, CBS Sports with us Thursday night this past

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Speaker 1: Thursday night in the Superdome. The Jaguars went in with

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Speaker 1: some question marks. Obviously, the quarterback was a game time decision.

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Speaker 1: There was the pregame warm up. He was good to go.

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Speaker 1: He wore the brace on the left knee and lo

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Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence and his perseverance and his want to

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, quarterbacks just by being quarterbacks sometimes get that, oh,

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Speaker 2: how tough are they? Type of a deal. I'm old

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Speaker 2: enough to remember when quarterbacks were a lot tougher than

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Speaker 2: both know if we punch up the NFL films on

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Speaker 2: in the nineteen eighties and the nineties versus now, and

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Speaker 2: darnia took a two by four and hit those guys.

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Speaker 2: And back then, those quarterbacks were of a certain size,

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Speaker 2: we're going. Trevor Lawrence looks like an old school quarterback

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Speaker 2: You know, he looks he looks like your next door

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Speaker 2: in a positive manner because now you can rally around

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Speaker 2: will go, look at our quarterback. We can play for him,

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Speaker 2: not just your offense. The rest of the team just goes,

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Speaker 2: my goodness, we got a tough guy quarterback. And JP,

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Speaker 2: you know you've been around this league. Any team that

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Speaker 1: Now they don't grow on trees either. Charles Charles Davis,

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Speaker 1: It's hard to do. Yeah, that's right, Charles Davis with

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Speaker 1: the CBS Sports. You know, this offense really hasn't had

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Speaker 1: the first Jaguar to ever do that. But when they're

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Speaker 2: No, I think that they can be the type of

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Speaker 2: team that has answers for whatever you throw at them. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you want a pressure Trevor Lawrence. I think he handles

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Speaker 2: keep it going. What's the expression all the quarterbacks do use?

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Speaker 2: You never go broke taking a profit?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So I can speak a little quarterback myself, all right,

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Speaker 2: the running game with ETN. I think the offensive line

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Speaker 2: Every one of them went in that game. So that

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Speaker 2: tells me something about that offensive line. Now you got

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure about Walker Little and his ability to

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Speaker 2: I think they're starting to take on some tough guy,

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Speaker 2: to throw out them. I feel like this offense is

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Speaker 2: starting to develop the idea that we've got answers for it.

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Speaker 2: You want to let us run it, We'll run it.

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Speaker 2: whatever fashion that may be. But the last thing I'm

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Speaker 2: you'll have to explain to me the idea that there

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Speaker 2: him a slot receiver. Period. Please, one day we have

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Speaker 2: to have that conversation, because that made zero sense.

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Speaker 1: Earls Davis. Yeah, Today's not that day. The Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 1: have won two in a row. Now are they back?

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Speaker 1: Are they on track? Are they they were a little

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Speaker 1: underachieving early in the season. What are they now?

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Speaker 2: I think back is too strong? Are they on better course? Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Their issue to me is nothing that's new, Nothing that

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Speaker 2: I'm going to identify that you have neither read, seen, heard.

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Speaker 2: Their inability to start faster on offense is the puzzler

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Speaker 2: for them. Kenny Pickett does a wonderful job as their

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Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. Going back to Baltimore on a

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Speaker 2: Sunday night as a rookie, going back to Baltimore this year,

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Speaker 2: it's the first time they went out on the West

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Speaker 2: But you can't live like that. That is not a

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Speaker 2: seventeen game winning formula. Tim Tebow did that well for

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Speaker 2: touchdowns to beabay right to Damarius Thomas on a beautiful

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Speaker 2: Can he Pickett knows it? Pittsburgh knows it. I think

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Speaker 2: they ask Mike Tomlin about, Hey, do you ever dream

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Speaker 2: about him in consistencies that every day? But he loves

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Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett. He knows that he can get there. Getting

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Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson back a receiver will help them do that.

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Speaker 2: But they've got to find a way to play better

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Speaker 2: which continues to be what Pittsburgh always has. An excellent defense.

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Speaker 1: Your safety by trade. So when you see Nanjie Harris

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Speaker 2: Find another profession? Is the first plan? All right? Well,

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Speaker 2: my crazy, But you know with Pittsburgh, Jalen Warren didn't

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Speaker 2: and that's what you got to deal with with them.

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Speaker 2: It's supposed to be a change up because Warren looks different,

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Speaker 2: but he provides some great thump as well. But Harris

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Speaker 2: You are telling your defensive front, you're telling your linebackers, guys,

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Speaker 2: and him. Because if that's the case, their their theme

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Speaker 2: music may be playing, not ours.

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Speaker 1: Algie could jump over you as well.

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Speaker 2: You do that too. It would hurt less, but it

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Speaker 2: might be more humility.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it would hurt more. I think would be injured.

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Speaker 1: You'd be on the injury list next week.

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Speaker 2: Hey, David's not playing this week, Pride.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a problem. Hey are you buying the Jaguars

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Speaker 2: I'm buying them because that Kansas City game told me

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Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah they walked away with a loss, but

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Speaker 2: was I think five times inside the twenty yard line

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Speaker 2: no touchdowns in that ball game? Some of it. You

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Speaker 2: have to give credit to Kansas City for good stout defense.

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Speaker 2: Two throws that I remember. I know Trevor Lawrence, I'm

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Speaker 2: pretty sure would sit here and go, yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: you're right about that. I missed those. They had opportunities,

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Speaker 2: and you know, teams that are learning to win go

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Speaker 2: through games like that. It happens. I mean, you don't

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Speaker 2: just automatically go from that to oh yeah, we got

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Speaker 2: it all covered. You will have some of those bumps

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Speaker 2: along the way. Kansas City this year, to me, has

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Speaker 2: shown more of their metal than maybe in the previous

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Speaker 2: four or five seasons, just because their defense is really

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Speaker 2: doing a lot to help carry that team, which they

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Speaker 2: never did before. They were always we played with a

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Speaker 2: fourteen point league defense. This year hasn't been that way,

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Speaker 2: and the defense is quietly one of the better ones

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Speaker 2: in the league. So it wasn't like Jacksonville was working

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Speaker 2: against the old Kansas City where they could be had.

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Speaker 2: So I really think that the Jacksonville looks good that way.

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Speaker 2: And then as you said, what they handled with the

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Speaker 2: road with London, And by the way, who'd they beat

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Speaker 2: in London back to back.

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Speaker 1: Weeks Falcons and Bills.

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Speaker 2: Falcons now lead the NFC South. Bills came into the

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Speaker 2: Sea the season. Is one of the nice picks for

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, and rightly so, one of the better

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Speaker 2: defenses in the league. They may be having trouble now,

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Speaker 2: but when you played them, they were coming off of

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Speaker 2: a dismantling of Miami, a dismantling and Josh Allen had

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Speaker 2: a perfect quarterback rating in that one. Those are legitimate wins.

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Speaker 2: In New Orleans on a Thursday night, short week travel,

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Speaker 2: one of the really good defenses in the league won

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Speaker 2: that ball game. I'm buying this Jacksonville Jaguars team. And

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Speaker 2: this is not a default winning the af South. This

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Speaker 2: is a legit winning the AFC South. Potentially they have

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Speaker 2: to close it out, but whoever they deal with. I

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Speaker 2: come back to the toughness, I come back to the

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Speaker 2: confidence level, and I come back to a quarterback that

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Speaker 2: continues to ascend. And that's what you're looking for come

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Speaker 2: playoff time.

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Speaker 1: The pretty good formula sounds like to me, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure we'll be seeing you a lot down the stretch

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Speaker 1: if that's the case as well. Charles is always a pleasure,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it with me. We'll see you next time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Take care of JP.