1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, It's Monday, November twenty fourth, twenty twenty five. 2 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where our Thanksgiving 3 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: menu is on a point. It's me and your man, 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: MG Marcus Grant, joined by Michael f. Florio and Lakwan Jones. 5 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: I rarely have a way I plan to open the show. 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: Most times it's just based on vibes or feel or something. 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: And sometimes a show open just falls into my lap. 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: Because today, when I logged onto stream Yard Floria, you 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: and LaQuan are having a conversation about wide receivers. 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: I walked in. 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: I logged on, and I assumed you were talking about 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: Jackson Smith Injigba and that if there was ever a 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: wide receiver who could win the MVP. 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,319 Speaker 3: I said six letters, I said JSN MVP, and then 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 3: I sat back. 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: And then Lakwan, you had feelings. 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 4: I have thoughts. I have thoughts and feelings, but I 18 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 4: would say this right. I crashed out a little peak 19 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 4: behind the curtain. I crashed out before we started, and 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 4: I thought that was going to be the call to open, 21 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 4: which should have been. I had a lot of points, 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 4: a lot of feelings, but I'm going to say this 23 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 4: though Jackson Smith the Jigoba can be the offensive player 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 4: of the year, keep his name out of the MVP 25 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 4: conversation because that is just straight pure ignorance. When we're 26 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 4: looking what Matthew Stafford is doing right now. 27 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: Is he about to have the best season ever by 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 3: someone playing his position? 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: I am gonna let everybody in on kind of what 30 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: has been happening on this show behind the scenes for 31 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: the last I. 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: Don't know month? Is that about, right, Floord? The last 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: month or so. 34 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 4: Give or take. Laqwan with the Rams. 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: Is I mean, stan is probably not even a strong 36 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: enough word for how you feel about the Rams right 37 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: in that if anyone says something so like, I think 38 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: I compared you to like a member of the Beehive, 39 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: right or swifty or something where like if somebody you 40 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: don't have to if you don't even have to insult 41 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: the Rams, they just don't have to properly praise them 42 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: for your liking, and you are ready to strike. And 43 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: so now for for the listeners out there, it has 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: become a game for a lot of. 45 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: Us, and it's very easy. It's very easy. 46 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it is easy mode Madden to get La 47 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: Kwan to get fired up to the point of nearly 48 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: crashing out, Like we will text him things about like 49 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: what did I say? 50 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: What did I say yesterday? 51 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: Oh, something about Stafford's MVP case is dinged because cam 52 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: Ward had more passing yards against the Seahawks than staff 53 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: Did I know that's not the case? 54 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 2: Like I know that, but it immediately. 55 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: Got a response rightday And so it's so florial saying 56 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: JSN m VP like you're ready to go to the mattresses. 57 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: I'm using like from the Godfather, You're ready to go 58 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: to the mattresses over this right now? 59 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 3: On Friday, we all went out right after after the 60 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: show Friday, and uh, I just pointed out that Matthew 61 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: Stafford has the best play caller and one two punch 62 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: at receiver and he plays indoors and everything is perfect. 63 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: He's great, and the quantimals crushed out for a good bit. 64 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 4: Try to get me kicked out of the restaurant, because 65 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 4: how is that a ding Like? How we sitting here saying, oh, whoa, 66 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 4: he has the most touchdowns within one yards? Who cares? 67 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 4: How did they get there? How did they even get 68 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: in striking? 69 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: Again? See how see how easy that was? 70 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 4: You see how I mean, you cannot be saying that 71 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: if he completed thirteen passes in a row last night, 72 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 4: I would be willing to give him the MVP, but 73 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 4: he did chat. So Chad, do you see what's happening 74 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 4: right now? Sharing pot me out right now? 75 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: Most people would have just like because again everybody listeners 76 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: out there. He knows what we're doing. He knows that 77 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: we're trying to get him riled up. Like We've made 78 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: no secret. It's not hiding. We're like we say these 79 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: things just to see you get upset. 80 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 4: And every single series like literally. 81 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: Like like at some point I want you to be 82 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: the Tom Hardy like mad Max meme, right, just look 83 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: at it and go that's bait, like someone. I just 84 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: want you to do that, but you don't every single time, 85 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: so we keep going. 86 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: You guys were four scores on National TV last night 87 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: and you were crashing out in our test. 88 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 2: No. 89 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: I I purposely put my phone in the other room, 90 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 4: like I know what this game is going to turn 91 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 4: it into. I know what they're going to in the 92 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: group chat. I'm charging my phone in the other room 93 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: because I just knew you guys are going to try 94 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 4: to stir the pot well, the only one because Baker 95 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 4: got hurt. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, I'm letting that bus 96 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 4: go by. Growth. 97 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: That is the growth, right, that is so better? 98 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 4: Is what I hear. 99 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: This is this is what we're trying to inspire you. 100 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 2: It's growth, that's all. 101 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 4: It's okay, let's crashes a fighter trolling. 102 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: You're fighting strangers on the internet for a group of 103 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: fifty you know, fifty three guys from list. 104 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: Most of them don't know you exist. 105 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: Like, it's okay, it's okay. 106 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: I will say this. I will fight these battles. 107 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: If Rams go to Seattle and lose and Jsen finishes 108 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: with two thousand, I'm going. 109 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 4: To be championing him for MVP Offensive Player of the Year. 110 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 4: That's fine, that's okay. We all know that he's not 111 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 4: gonna win it, though, Like let's be serious, let's be honest, right, 112 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 4: A wide receiver is not gonna win MVP. 113 00:05:59,520 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: He's not. 114 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 4: But if he does what, that's great. But when we 115 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 4: go back ten, fifteen, twenty five years later and look 116 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 4: back in the record, but it's going to say Matthew 117 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 4: Stafford twenty twenty five, I mean, honestly, there's no good 118 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 4: to nobody remember like, nobody's going to remember oh jsn oh, yeah, 119 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 4: you receive. 120 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: Dallas for the first time ever. Everyone will be more 121 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: memorable than Matthew Stafford. 122 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 2: You'd like to remember that. Yeah, people remember for. 123 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 4: Sure who won the MVP of the year, Calvin put 124 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 4: Up nineteen forty seven or whatever it was. I don't know, 125 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 4: but we all remember Calvin. I don't know, but who 126 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 4: is the ball? 127 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: That's his point. Anyway, We've got a lot of stuff 128 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: to talk about. We're in close to the fantasy playoffs. 129 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: Can talk about some guys you can stash on your 130 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: fantasy roster to maybe get you ready for the second season. 131 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: Of course, we'll have a drop zone, we'll have waiver wire. 132 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: But first, let's going with some news, because a whole 133 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: lot of news has happened in the last twenty four 134 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: hours or so. Starting with kind of the last bit 135 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: of news. First, Raiders in the middle of a pretty 136 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: missus season. I don't ask me why I stayed up 137 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: late and rewatched that game against the Browns. Maybe because 138 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: I don't like myself, I'm not sure, but either way, 139 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: the Raiders of Fire chip Kelly as their offensive coordinator. 140 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: I just saw in fact, moments ago that Greg Olsen, 141 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: the quarterback coach, not the former tight end member of 142 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: the seventh Floor Crew, not that guy. Greg Olsen is 143 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: going to take over as the interim offensive coordinator of Florida. 144 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: When you look at this, does this have an immediate 145 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: impact or do you anticipate, I should say, an immediate 146 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: impact on Ashton gent brock Bauer's Tyler Lockett, et cetera, 147 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. 148 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: The funny thing is we've seen Greg Olsen in this role, 149 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: Like he's already been the OC for four, five, six 150 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 3: different years seasons for the Raiders and this is now 151 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: his third tenure in this role. Like all roles apparently lead. 152 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 4: Back to Greg. 153 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: The other candidates were two coaches with the last name Carol, 154 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: so you could figure out how they got that job. 155 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm not expecting a whole lot to change, right, Like, 156 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: like Olsen was already part of the person putting the 157 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: game plans, Like, yeah, Chip Kelly, maybe maybe it'll change 158 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: a little bit and stuff like that. But if you're 159 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: Greg Olsen coming in here, you've already been the quarterbacks 160 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: coach this season, and look, it doesn't take a rocket 161 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: scientist to look at the Raiders roster and be like, 162 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: there's two players whereth's feeding as much as we possibly can. 163 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 3: So I'm kind of operating until we see otherwise that 164 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 3: Genty and brock Bauers are the only Raiders where it's starting. 165 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: Maybe Trey Tucker if you're in like a pinch in 166 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: a deeper league or something like that. But the one 167 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 3: thing I will say about the Raiders, and I hope 168 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 3: it doesn't change, they've been throwing the ball a lot 169 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: more Dash Genty lately. I think you get eight targets 170 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: this week. Like, as long as you keep doing that, 171 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: and you keep brock Bowers also had like double digit targets, 172 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: you keep doing that, fantasy managers are going to be okay. 173 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: I mean, part of why they throw it so much 174 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: to Ash to Genc is because they can't run it 175 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: with him. 176 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: I mean, the offensive. 177 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: Line it it looks like a Black Friday sale. I 178 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: mean just just the big box electronics store on Black Friday, 179 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: Like the doors open and the defensive lot just comes 180 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: flooding in. I mean, I know some of it yesterday 181 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: is because it was the Browns and Miles Garrett or whatever, 182 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: but it's bad. I'm LaQuan is it is it crazy 183 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: to think. 184 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: They're going to make a quarterback change too? Like? 185 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: Are they can they keep this. 186 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: Going with Gino Smith because there are a lot of 187 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: things wrong, but Gino's. 188 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: Not helping the problem. 189 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 4: No, And like Gino said last week, like if there's 190 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 4: a problem with the offensive it looks weird, blame it 191 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 4: on me. I mean we've been blaming it on Gino 192 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 4: since week one, to be honestly, that's nothing new. And honestly, 193 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 4: if Pete Carroll wants to keep the dressing room, like 194 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: the culture of the of the team to be anywhere 195 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 4: near remotely positive, they need to make a QB change. 196 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 4: They need to change something up because like firing all 197 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: these guys, you're just taking you know, staff out of 198 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 4: the building, but you're not bringing anything in or switching 199 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 4: or making any adjustments to say, hey, we can go 200 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 4: out here and win this game. There's no hope right 201 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 4: now in Vegas right now, Like I think a QB change, 202 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 4: at least you'll see something different from your offense. You'll 203 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 4: see something different from Trey Tucker. Maybe there's some type 204 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 4: of connection there with other you know, pass catchers, like 205 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 4: a Jack besh or a Deontay Thorton that we have 206 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 4: not seen in weeks. Like I do think, like, you know, 207 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: if you sit in this black hole, it's going to 208 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 4: be just bad results week in and week out for 209 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 4: the rest of the season. 210 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: They did activate Aidan O'Connell, so he's you know, he's 211 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: activated off of injury reserve. He's available. Can he Pickett 212 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: is still there? You know, stop me if one of 213 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: these guys really inspires you. 214 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: No, it's you know again watching it. The offensive line 215 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: is terrible. 216 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: Gino's holding the ball too long when he does have time, 217 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,359 Speaker 1: He's missing throws. It was it was a mess yesterday 218 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: watching them, and yeah, short. 219 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: Throws to Ashton gents. He was one of the few 220 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: things that worked. 221 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 4: We're gonna see a teardown, right Like it feels that way. 222 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it starts with them strongly suggesting to 223 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll that maybe he go back to retirement. You know, 224 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: they've they've fired they've fired their but their offensive coordinator. 225 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: Think they fired their defensive coordinator earlier in the year. Yeah, 226 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: this thing is gonna have to just be torn down 227 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: and rebuilt from the bottom up because rematch. Yeah, I 228 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: mean that might have to be part of it. I mean, 229 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: at some point he's he's not you know, he's not 230 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: the key to to really turn around what you're doing there. 231 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: And I don't know how much longer he's gonna want 232 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: to be there in this situation. 233 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: It's it's all bad. 234 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 4: He just signed a deal, didn't he. Yeah. 235 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if you him and Miles Garrett man like, 236 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: they chose to ride out their careers with bad teams. 237 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 4: They chose money, money over wins. Baby. Yeah. 238 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think at some point, if 239 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: you're the Raiders, I don't know, there's there's value there. 240 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: Why not try to get some draft picks or something 241 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: back or something for him? 242 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: I don't know. 243 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: Last night at Sofi Stadium, the Rams completely dominated the Buccaneers. 244 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: That praise is that sufficient enough praise for you? I 245 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: just need, I just need. I need your mentals to 246 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: stay straight for the remainder of the show. 247 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: So why is the next thing? Marcus is gonna? 248 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield along the way suffered a shoulder injury. I 249 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: expected to have an MRI sometime on Monday. The fear 250 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: is a sprained ac joint. We saw Teddy two Gloves 251 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: step in there, Teddy Bridgewater and finish things out for 252 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. 253 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: Solque. I mean, if it is. 254 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, which very well could be likely, does that 255 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: mean it's curtains for a Mecca Buca, Chris Godwin, those guys, 256 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: Tess Johnson at this point. 257 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: For a bit, Like I'm very hesitant in like looking 258 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 4: at like Chris Godwin, you know, coming back from injury, 259 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 4: we didn't see much from him in this game. I think, 260 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 4: you know, a mecha Buka. He remains a start for 261 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 4: a lot of folks if you don't have any other options. 262 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 4: I like Teddy two Gloves, like, regardless of the you know, 263 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 4: the fuzzy history between him and the Rams and stuff 264 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 4: like that. If you know, you know, I think that 265 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: you know Teddy. He just hasn't really played as a 266 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 4: starter in so long that we're gonna be able to 267 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 4: get like a revive of a Joe Flack or Davis Mills, 268 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 4: Like this is not that situation whatsoever, Folks Like, I 269 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 4: think Teddy two Glove is going to go in there 270 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 4: and do his absolute best. I think the next couple 271 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 4: games coming up, I know the Cardinals defense, they've made 272 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 4: some adjustments, they looked a lot better. I might want 273 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 4: to get away from Chris Godwin. I'm not sure Bucky 274 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 4: Irvin coming back even helps this offense if they're not 275 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 4: going to be able to throw the ball. I mean, honestly, 276 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 4: looking at Teddy two Gloves for the next couple of 277 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 4: weeks with his aces brain or whatever it is for Baker, 278 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: you kind of have to just pivot to other options here. 279 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 4: I don't have high expectations for those guys. Whatsoever? 280 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: Is this a veiled LaMarcus Joyner reference? At what that was? 281 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 4: Geez? Come on, bro, you know you know? 282 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, look, there are people out there 283 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: who don't know who are probably like what. 284 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: I'm talking about. 285 00:13:59,240 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 4: Go look it up. 286 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: You know, you just throw shadow references. I mean, you 287 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: get people information. 288 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 4: I wasn't too happy with that hit man because, like again, 289 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 4: like you don't want to see your guys get smashed 290 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 4: like that, especially like Teddy Too Glove, like he's one 291 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 4: of the good ones out there. 292 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 2: Man. Yeah. 293 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: Uh So, anyway, the Bucks offense has really been struggling. 294 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: I mean, last night they were they were bad. Uh, 295 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, the Rams shut him down. But also they've 296 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: kind of been on the struggle bus for a few 297 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: weeks now too, So uh, this is not gonna help 298 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: things to Higgins. Flora left the game with a concussion 299 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: on Sunday, no surprise, He's already been ruled out with 300 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: it being a short week. Uh, you know, it seemed 301 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: pretty likely that he was not going to play. I 302 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: guess the good news is Jamar Chase should be back, 303 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: you know, providing he does not expect to rate on 304 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: anyone else between. 305 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: Now and Thursday evening. 306 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow expected to play as well, Burrow back, Chase back, 307 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: but no, T Higgins. Can we maybe throw Andre Yoshivas 308 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: into some lineups somewhere if you're. 309 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: In need, But there's no buys this week, so you 310 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 3: likely have a better option because look, I'm playing Joe Burrow. 311 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 4: If he plays, I'm playing. Obviously you're playing Jamar Chase. 312 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 3: But even this past I know it wasn't Burrow, but 313 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 3: like Yosi Vas was, he was solid, you know, like 314 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 3: I think in a half people and he gave you 315 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: something around ten points. You know who I think is 316 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: even in my opinion I like even more this week, 317 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: Mitchell Tinsley. I think he can come in and be 318 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: the t Higgins the outside, the X guy man. He 319 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: went up and caught went over Christian Gonzales and then 320 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: stared him down And I was like, that is alpha 321 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: water receiver one type behavior. Yeah, let's not forget Tinsley 322 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: balled out in preseason and that's how he made the roster. 323 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 4: To begin with. 324 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: So when Browning, yes, like I think Tinsley is uh, 325 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: the floor is probably a little bit safer for h Andre, 326 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: but I think Tinsley is the But again, these are 327 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: both if you're going deeper because there's no buys this week, 328 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 3: which is huge, so you should have your full allotment 329 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 3: of receivers available. 330 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 331 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: Side notes to that there are no buys this week, 332 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: there are buys next week when people are really fighting to. 333 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: Make the playoffs. 334 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: You know, maybe we should have had some four team 335 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: by weeks instead of a couple of two team. 336 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: By weeks, and maybe we could have solved this problem. 337 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 4: You know what do I know? I just talk about 338 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 4: fake football for a living. 339 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: Lakau and Alvin Kamara leaves the game yesterday with a 340 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: knee injury. He was out in the second half. This week, 341 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: the Saints have the Miami Dolphins, who, for all their improvement. 342 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 4: Still stink against the run again, no buys. 343 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: So let's let's let's say this is like a DFS thing, 344 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: or you play in some insane twenty team league or 345 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: something like that. Would you trust Devin Neil in at 346 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: least what's on paper a good situation. 347 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, if the situation looks good. I mean, Miami, we 348 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 4: know they stink against the run. But I think Devin 349 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: Neal running thirty two routes likely yesterday looks amazing for 350 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 4: a guy in PPR formats because Tyler Schuck is gonna 351 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 4: check that ball down like he still has that identity 352 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 4: or role of album Kamara. So if he's gonna be 353 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 4: running that many routes and have that opportunity to catch 354 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: a couple of passes, why not. I honestly think as 355 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 4: a runner, though I'm a little hesitant, he has like 356 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 4: a lot of hesitation in his pace in terms of 357 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 4: hitting the line, not great yards before contact. I do 358 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 4: think that, you know, as he gets more reps as 359 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: the guy, maybe as the weeks to progress on and 360 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 4: on that we'll start seeing some life from him in 361 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 4: between the tackles, outside zones, scheme whatever they want to 362 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: run it. But I think Devin Neil and those deeper, 363 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 4: deep cut leads. I'm talking like down bad, like bro, 364 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 4: I ain't got nobody else out there. I understand if 365 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 4: you're picking him up and trying to just get something 366 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 4: going and put him in there against the Miami Dolphins. 367 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 5: It's tayso Sometime baby yesterday that I will never praise 368 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 5: that man. Get him off of the team. No, why 369 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 5: is it? 370 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: How is it that this is endured? This is the 371 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: third different coach, This is the third coach now, I'm 372 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: don't even do the you know, the inglorious bastards. 373 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 4: Three three coaches, right? 374 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: It went from Sean Payton to Dennis Allen and now 375 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: Keillan Moore has been like what sort of sway, what 376 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: sort of Jedi mind powers does Tasom Hill have over 377 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: this organization that at thirty five years old, coming off 378 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: ACL surgery, he played like twenty four to twenty five snaps, 379 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: had ten rushing attempts, led the team in rushing attempts 380 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: yesterday through through two passes. Why why is this still happening? 381 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: I don't understand. 382 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 3: I think at this point they probably view him as 383 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: their best power runner and they were using him a 384 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: lot near the goal line. So the reason I'm in 385 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: on Taysom Hill is we talk about it a lot. 386 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 4: The bar for success at tight end is so much 387 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 4: lower than other position. 388 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 3: If he gets a rushing touchdown against Miami, he will 389 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: be probably a top twelve tight end next week. So 390 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: if that look, I no buys. I don't want to 391 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 3: throw Devin Neil in one of my two RB spots. 392 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 3: But if I'm streaming tight ends, which I have to 393 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 3: in a lot of leagues because I have injuries, I 394 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 3: might take a chance on Taysom. 395 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 4: The wild part. 396 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: Of this is and I'm still I'm filibustering, so I'm 397 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: trying to figure something out. So I think according to 398 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: the Saints roster, isn't he a quarterback? Yeah, which means, 399 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: at least according to the conventions of NFL dot Com 400 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: fantasy leagues, he should be a quarterback. He should not 401 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: be tight end eligible. And I don't want like, I 402 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: think we're past the point where people are gonna, like, 403 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: you know, text us or d MS or whatever and 404 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: like want these switcheses. 405 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 4: Nobody wants. Nobody really wants the fantass anymore. 406 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 3: I'm I'm here to tell you he's still listened as 407 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 3: a tight end on the honor. 408 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 4: Rat That's terrible. 409 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: That's terrible. 410 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: We need to we need to callies. We got to 411 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: call the authorities on this one. Like I'm not I'm 412 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: usually not about I'm not about dry snitching or anything 413 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: like that. But in this situation, I feel like we 414 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: can make an exception. 415 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: We can't. This nonsense cannot stand. 416 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 3: I don't think he should be a quarterback, like he 417 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 3: played more as a running back, right, Like he threw 418 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 3: two passes, but he also ran five round like he is. 419 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 4: A flex That's what he should be. 420 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: We need to just save people from themselves, right, don't 421 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: even get people the option. Don't even tempt people with that, right, 422 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: Like don't you know it's like putting the ball in 423 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: front of a diabetic, Like, don't do this. 424 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 4: Don't people like that? Would you just oh my god. 425 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 3: Look what you just I'm not saying to start him 426 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 3: like no questions asked. But again, like I have a 427 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: league where I lost Sam Laporta and the waiver wire 428 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: is thin and I'm streaming week to week, I might 429 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: just throw a dart on Tasum in that situation. 430 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: Olia, I love you and I want better for you. 431 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 4: I didn't really work out, but I would. I don't know. 432 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 2: I just feel like I would take my chance to 433 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 2: the A. J. Barner over tays him. 434 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 4: I would hate when you have the m v P, Jsen. 435 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 4: I mean, he's not going to get any targets. 436 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: I mean that's true, That's that's a fair point though. Actually, yeah, 437 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: because when the m v P has taken all the oxygen, 438 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: God's ears, I know, right, I mean, law, I'm glad 439 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: you admitted it, so it's cool. 440 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 4: We need to clip that. Don't don't say. 441 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 2: This is the most we've had in a while. 442 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: Anyway, that's been a news before we take a break 443 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: and catch our breath and get our faculties back. 444 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 2: Uh lakwan. Aaron Rodgers expects to play. 445 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: I know he was telling everybody he expected to play 446 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: this week, even if we didn't really believe it, but 447 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: both he and the team expected he's. 448 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 4: Going to play next week against the Buffalo Bills. 449 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: I know DK Metcalf left the game banged up, but 450 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: I think they are expecting that he should be okay 451 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: and good to go. Doesn't even matter anymore, I mean, 452 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter the Steelers. 453 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 4: No, like I think, like you can honestly entertain gain 454 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 4: will warn DK Metcalf based on the matchup, But with 455 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 4: him banged up, who knows but Aaron Rodgers himself. No, 456 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 4: I don't see this making a difference. I mean, who 457 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 4: did they got this with the Bills? I mean florio, 458 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 4: I mean, what do you expect out of Aaron Rodgers? 459 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 4: You ain't fearful, You ain't like, oh well, we might 460 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 4: take a l to the elite quarterback MVP super Bowl 461 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 4: winning Aaron Rodgers. No, I mean like he's not moving 462 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 4: the leader for anybody, like even for fantasy. Like at 463 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 4: one point he showed a stability to be a low 464 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 4: wing QB one, But now what we've seen these last 465 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 4: couple of weeks with him banged up and with the wrists, 466 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 4: it's like it's a dumb We got like four weeks 467 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 4: left for some fantasy rosters that go into the playoffs, 468 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 4: Like you've run into the playoffs with Aaron Rodgers. I 469 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 4: don't know. I'm not I don't have any rosters with him, 470 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 4: to be honest, but rosters with him, they probably not 471 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 4: even sniffing the playoffs with him if he's your QB one. 472 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 3: I think it's The argument is Rudolph might be better 473 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: for your pass catchers than Aaron at least for DK metcalf. 474 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 4: I could say that too. I think Mason Rudolph, like, 475 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 4: going into this week, I was hesitation because honestly, I 476 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 4: was like, we know who's on the sticks. It's Arthur Smith. 477 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 4: So it's like the offense and system is going to 478 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 4: be based on him, like you know, like it's going 479 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 4: to be a low pass volume, heavy run kind of 480 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 4: what we saw. Honestly, But I do think Mason Rudolph 481 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 4: to give us a little bit more because Anon Rodgers 482 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 4: ain't moving in that pocket, like he ain't doing what 483 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 4: he used to do anymore. Like give us Mason Rudolf 484 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 4: fighting for a job next year? 485 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: Who cares? 486 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I. 487 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: Guess I think again, I think the idea of Mason 488 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: Rudolph this like idea that he's going to push the 489 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: ball downfield. I don't think it matches up with reality. 490 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 4: Like yesterday he. 491 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: Had less than six air yards per attempt. This offense 492 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: is boring aside from aside from like Darnell Washington occasionally 493 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: steamrolling a defensive back like there's just nothing here that 494 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: I care about at all. 495 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 3: I think it goes back to what Cam was saying 496 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 3: the other day that like there's just with Rogers, even 497 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: though the talent might not be much better, Like there's 498 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 3: that mental thing that like it's easier for the Steelers 499 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 3: players to get amped up and to feel like they 500 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 3: could compete and stuff. 501 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 4: That's probably it. He could pain pretty picture in and 502 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 4: the paint is do doo. That's what That's what the 503 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 4: campus is getting right now. Like, come on, bro, this 504 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 4: often sucks. 505 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 2: Speaking of which, Sharley. 506 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: Browns I just saw then that to Shuder Sanders is 507 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: gonna be their starting quarterback. Four week thirteen, they are 508 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: at home against the forty nine Ers. We can talk 509 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 1: about Shudur a little bit later. I don't wantally want 510 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: to get like, I don't know. 511 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: He was fine. 512 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 4: He wasn't. It's okay, all right, man, Kevins the fancy 513 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 4: is not a fan. 514 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: But it was fine. I mean it's fine. Like he 515 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: had the one deep shot to Isaiah Bond that was 516 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: a nice throw. Everything else was like within five yards 517 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 1: of the line of scrimmage, and you know, the Raiders 518 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: decided to not tackle Dylan Sampson and he went for 519 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: a long touchdown run. 520 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 4: Was fine. 521 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: It was fine. 522 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: Like I guess if you don't like him, then you know, 523 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: you take that, you pick it apart. If you like him, 524 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: you take that and use its your advantage. I think 525 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm sort of neutral on Shuduur and so it was 526 00:24:59,160 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: just what it was. 527 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 3: I just think he's got more upside than get And 528 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 3: I thought this since February of last year when I 529 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: started watching them. You know, like I've never was a 530 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel believer. 531 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 4: Just just look at the fans reacting to anything he 532 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 4: did yesterday, right like you got the kids in the 533 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 4: stands and the Browns jersey throwing the ris like it's 534 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 4: time bro. Like like I'm like, I have nothing against 535 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel, but I was like, when are we going 536 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 4: to pull the plug on this? Like we've seen that 537 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 4: for so many weeks where it was just like what 538 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 4: are you seeing that you think is going to be 539 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 4: the future of this franchise? Like obviously Shredor can distract 540 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 4: all the bad plays just with his aura. You have 541 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 4: kids in going like this with the watch. I'm telling 542 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 4: you they were so excited to see him get that 543 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 4: shine and make those plays what plays he did make, 544 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 4: But looking at what the audience was watching, Like you 545 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 4: have to entertain at the end of the day, nobody's 546 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 4: paying a ticket to watch Dylan Gabriel. 547 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: There's nothing entertaining about watching. But there was nothing entertaining 548 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: about watching that, Like it was a bunch of it. 549 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 4: Was it was. 550 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 1: It was the same thing Mason Rudolph was doing, but 551 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: it just didn't have a gimmicky celebration, like. 552 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 4: What was exactly about it? And you talk about the fans, 553 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 4: you talk about the fans, I. 554 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: Mean, like that's like when you talk about like the 555 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: kids getting excited. All I thought was Johnny Manziel. I 556 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: just thought about the Johnny Manziel money. 557 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 4: Rather Manziel than something. 558 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: No, yeah, actually actually actually I would I would rather. 559 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 4: Have Johnny Manziel. 560 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: Everything you said about like it was one long pass, Well, 561 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 3: Gabriel is everything, but without that long pass, you know 562 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 3: what I mean, And he can't move he doesn't have 563 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: the arm to throw down. 564 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 4: Field like but still the other thing is like this was. 565 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 3: And Sanders was very vocal on this, which I actually, 566 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 3: I know the Browns hated, but I liked for him, 567 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: Like this was his first week of reps with the 568 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 3: Ones all year and he put up numbers that Gabriel 569 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: hasn't been able to put up. Like again, it's the 570 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: Browns were not getting excited for fantasy or anything like that. 571 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: But from a viewer, I'm much more interested the Browns 572 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 3: now than I was a week ago. 573 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: So I'll leave you with this because this is going 574 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: to be the last time we talked about Sans this week. 575 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 2: I try to make that a point. 576 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 4: No, he's a sneaky start this week against those whiners. 577 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 4: Let's go. 578 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: The last thing I'm going to say about this is 579 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: my wife is a shuld dour Sanders supporter. She has 580 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: been for the last couple of years, and so she says, hey, 581 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: can you can you put on the Browns game? 582 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 2: Yeah? Sure, whatever, I turn it on. 583 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 4: Uh. 584 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: Several minutes later she says, oh, both of these teams 585 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: are bad. Huh yeah, yes, yes. 586 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 4: Very much so they are. 587 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: But this is a much longer opening block than I 588 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: extended it to be, where it's take a breaker to 589 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: come back. We get some fantasy playoffs stashes also got 590 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: some waiver wire stuff coming up a little bit later. 591 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: Stick around for more of this very unhinged edition of 592 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So we are a couple 593 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: of weeks away from the start of the Fantasy playoffs 594 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: in most leagues, so at this point, you know the 595 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: trade deadlines have passed. Of course, you can still go 596 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: out and make waiver wire claims to this point. So 597 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: maybe some guys that are out there on the waiver 598 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: wire that you may want to hold on to. This 599 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're automatically starting them, but in case you 600 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: have some of the matchups, or you have matchups that 601 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: you don't like, maybe these are some other options for you. 602 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: So quarterback, running back, receiver, tight end QB. I was 603 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: le I'm very surprised to see this name that you 604 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: dropped in here for the quarterback position. I open the 605 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: floor to you. It's William Trevor Lawrence. Okay, William, because 606 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: he's no longer Trevor mid Lawrence. He's no longer Trevor. 607 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: We are not giving him cool names. He probably thought 608 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: back in the day Trevor was cool for him. No, 609 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: we're not giving you cool points. But I will say this, 610 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: he's a stash for the Fantasy playoffs. He is a 611 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: QB two with high end QB two upside being that 612 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: he's using his legs my boy has eight touchdowns in 613 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: the last four games. The fact that he is being selfish. 614 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: I say selfish because he doesn't benefit any of the 615 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: other pass catchers unless Breton Strange. But I do think 616 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: that Trevor mid Lawrence or I'm sorry, William Lawrence has 617 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: upside to be a stability of going into the Fantasy playoffs, 618 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: like him using his legs is giving him the rushing 619 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: upside that we love for MICHAELA. 620 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 4: Williams about Nicks, etcetera, etcetera. He's not Josh Allen Juck 621 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 4: justin fields, etcetera, etcetera. But he's right there on the 622 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 4: cuff of where like, hey, I can get rushing upside 623 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 4: out of him, where he can get sixteen to eighteen 624 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 4: Fantasy points, which is fine. You don't want to be 625 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 4: sitting here with the likes of Aaron Rodgers or even 626 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 4: a Oh my god, I don't know how many people 627 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 4: are still rostering Joe Flapple. But the magic is gone. 628 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow is going back, you know what I mean? 629 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 4: And Marcus, you can let that go. Yeah. I was like, damn, Joe, 630 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 4: this is what we're doing. That's how we play now, 631 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 4: all right. But when you're looking at the Marcus Mariotas 632 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 4: of the world and all those quarterbacks that are bottom 633 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 4: tier that I feel, unfortunately to say comfortable picking up Trevor. 634 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 4: I mean, god, I keep doing it William for the 635 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 4: rest of the season as a TV two to stash. 636 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: William Lawrence sounds like a financial advisor. 637 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he probably got picked on it. They probably call it. 638 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: Will Lawrence seems like a cool dude, though, you know, 639 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: if he's want to be Will Lawrence that you. 640 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 4: Know, probably a good person man, but football is not 641 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 4: his gig. 642 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: Will Lawrence I'd hang out with for sure. FLORYA who's 643 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: your quarterback Fantasy playoffs stash. 644 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 3: One that I think should have been picked up a 645 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 3: while ago. He's been a start for four weeks in 646 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: a row. Now it's Jacoby Brissett, who is still just 647 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,239 Speaker 3: thirty five percent rostered. And I know in a lot 648 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: of my leagues people were picking him up just for 649 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 3: the week because. 650 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 4: Of buys or injuries or whatever. 651 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 3: So I wouldn't be surprised if, with no teams on 652 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 3: buy this week, if he. 653 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 4: Gets thrown back out there. 654 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: And I will say he's coming off his worst loss 655 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 3: of this worst fantasy performance of the season where he 656 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 3: only gave you eighteen point seven Fantasy oones like he is, 657 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 3: he should not be out there, and then he gets 658 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: the Bucks this week. I think you could just straight 659 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 3: up play him if you're in knee, I would send him. 660 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: The two weeks after that, he gets the Rams and 661 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 3: the Texans, showing your Rams some respect. But then he 662 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: gets the Falcons, who, despite starting the year really hot, 663 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 3: have been lit up through the air lately, and then 664 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: Championship Week the Cincinnati Bengals. 665 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 4: So yeah, even if you have. 666 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 3: A quarterback that you like, just have Jacoby on your 667 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,239 Speaker 3: bench just in case, or maybe you don't love your 668 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 3: matchups late in the year, something like that, because if 669 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 3: he's starting week seventeen, he's gonna win some people some championships. 670 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: I do some stuff with a really smart, fun guy 671 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: named Gene Clemens, and he coined the phrase that I 672 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: think we should all adopt Jacoby briset it and forget it. 673 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 4: I love it. 674 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: Yes, Jacoby preset it and forget it. 675 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 4: Do you think folks are still out there thinking that 676 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray's coming back and that's why his rostership is 677 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 4: so low, Like, why is he only rostered in thirty 678 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 4: two percent of the leagues. That's insane. 679 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: Well, I think, I don't know. 680 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: I think it's the point where it's a stigma. But 681 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: it's also like you get to some point where you're 682 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: in a league and either you have a quarterback you 683 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: like or your team stinks and you're probably not really 684 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: paying full attention, so you're not really adding him off 685 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: the waiver wire. I don't I don't know. I'm trying 686 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: to come up with reasons. 687 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: I don't have any. 688 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 3: It's also not pretty when you watch him all Like yesterday, 689 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: he didn't play particularly well, but yeah, they're in ketchup 690 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 3: mode very often, so he finishes with good Fantasy points. 691 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: That is true. 692 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: This is one I didn't think we'd be saying a 693 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: few weeks ago, but to a tongue of maloa should. 694 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: Be picked up in at it. 695 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: And again, I'm not going to sit here and tell 696 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: you that he's going to be a guy that you're 697 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:37,239 Speaker 1: starting every single week. But the Dolphins have started playing better, right, 698 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: They've put together a couple of wins in a row. 699 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: I mentioned this, I think it mentioned on the show 700 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: last week, right, that there is a good chance coming 701 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: out of the buy that they could run the table 702 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: the rest of the way, an end at ten and 703 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: seven maybe be a playoff team. But you look at 704 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: their fantasy playoff schedule. They've got the Steelers on the road, 705 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: which you know, we know how Tua is and the 706 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: Colds that might not be great, particularly. 707 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: But at the Steelers at home. 708 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: Against the Bengals and at home against the Bucks, that's 709 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: a very workable schedule for Tua, you know, especially if 710 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: he's just throwing dump offs to Devon a Chan and 711 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: letting him do the rest. Jalen Waddle has become a 712 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: big thing. Darren Waller is going to be coming back 713 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: at some point really soon too, So there are reasons 714 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,239 Speaker 1: there to be excited. And for all the struggles that 715 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: the Dolphins have had, Mike McDaniel can still draw up 716 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: an offense. 717 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 4: You know, the rest of it. 718 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: You might you might want to argue with you can 719 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: you can quibble over the rest of it. 720 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 2: He can still draw up an offense. 721 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, to oh, speaking of quarterbacks, and this this 722 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: just came across my timeline as we were talking. Kevin 723 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: O'Connell says JJ McCarthy is in concussion protocol. McCarthy reported 724 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: some symptoms as the Vikings came home last night. 725 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 4: So remember had a concussion for like to the last 726 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 4: five weeks with. 727 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: So it's just something to keep an eye on. We'll 728 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 2: see maybe Max Brosmer is it Brosmer Brosmer could be 729 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 2: the guy that gets the start. Next week, we. 730 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 4: Shall throw the ball to Justin Jefferson. 731 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: We shall see running back playoff stash. I guess let's 732 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 1: keep the dolphin theme. 733 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 2: Rolling here, ELQ. Yeah. 734 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 4: I like Ali Gordon man. The last we've seen him 735 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 4: was against the Washington Commanders, and I liked everything I 736 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 4: saw from with the limited touches, I mean, it looks 737 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 4: like he got some juice. I mean honestly, nine touches 738 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 4: and six of those touches were in striking distance, so 739 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 4: valuable touches that he has on the table for him. 740 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 4: And I think, honestly, when you're looking at Devon h Chan, 741 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 4: he has the fifth highest stuff free in the red zone. 742 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 4: So I do think when you insert Oli Gordon to 743 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 4: kind of throw off the defenses as a one to 744 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 4: two punch, that you can roll Oli Gordon Devon Chan. 745 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 4: I think for the fantasy playoffs, I want all the 746 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 4: running backs that are going to be able to be 747 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 4: put in striking distance the same way we look at 748 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 4: Tyler Aljeer as Zach Charbonnet. We could start pushing and 749 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 4: nudging Oli Gordon into that conversation, being that he had 750 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 4: a season high of snaps the last time we saw 751 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 4: him and just having that buy I'm pretty sure some 752 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 4: foot with the bye, we just threw him to the 753 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 4: waiver wire and not really thinking about picking him back up. 754 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 4: So he's sneaking under the radars, a guy that I 755 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 4: think is going to be getting more opportunities as the 756 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 4: Dolphins move forward. 757 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that too, Floya, You're so Sean Tucker. 758 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm stealing your thunder a little bit. But you're not 759 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: worried about Bucky Irving at all. 760 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 3: Well, I am, But even when Bucky was at his 761 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 3: best last year, Rashad White still played a part in 762 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 3: this offense. 763 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 4: And that's what I'm kind of thinking Sean Tucker could be. 764 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 3: He could be the guy who gets like eight to 765 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 3: twelve touches as like the change of pays. But he's 766 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 3: been I know he struggled Sunday night against the Rams, 767 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 3: but he is by far their most explosive runner, and 768 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 3: that might include Bucky, Like we have to see what 769 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 3: Bucky looks like when he comes back. But Bucky was 770 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 3: averaging just over three yards per carry before he got hurt. 771 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 3: And then you look at this schedule. He gets to 772 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 3: Cardinals next week and then the Saints. Those are two 773 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 3: favoral matchups. But in the playoffs, the Falcons, the Panthers, 774 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 3: and the Dolphins so limited touches. He could be someone 775 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 3: that you're putting into your flex option and it only 776 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,439 Speaker 3: takes one or two big plays for him to come 777 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 3: through in fantasy. So I think a lot of people 778 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 3: are probably going to throw Tucker back. 779 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 4: Because he had a down game this week. 780 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 3: They're like, Bucky's coming back, Baker's hurt, And if that 781 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 3: is the case, I would be looking to add him 782 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 3: and get him on your bench even if you don't 783 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 3: need him, Like what if one of your running backs 784 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 3: get hurt or something like that. He is someone that 785 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 3: you could plug in in one of these matchups and 786 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 3: they could potentially come through in a big way. 787 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you watch it, even though he didn't. 788 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: Have a good game last night, you see the burst, 789 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: Like when he gets the ball in his hands, you 790 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: can see the explosiveness there definitely more than you see 791 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: from a show. 792 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 4: I thought he was going to break one off. I 793 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 4: thought he was going to break off one a couple 794 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 4: or two because honestly, like when you see him get 795 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 4: the ball, it's a night and day experience. With Rashad 796 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 4: White and Shot Tucker for sure, it's like they know 797 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 4: what they're doing now. 798 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: Similar to that, I mean, I think Brian Robbinson is 799 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: the guy that should be added across leagues. I mean, 800 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 1: obviously there's the obvious of if something were to happen 801 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: to Christian McCaffrey, then he steps into a really big workload, 802 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: but also watching the way he's started to fit into 803 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 1: the offense. 804 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 2: Lately, running hard. 805 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: I know he had the angry run a couple of 806 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: weeks ago. He's at a point now where the Niners 807 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: feel confident giving him a few extra snaps just so 808 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: that they can rest McCaffrey. 809 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 2: So it's not like a huge workload. 810 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: Right, I Mean, we know who the RB one is 811 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: in San Francisco when he's healthy, but it is getting 812 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: to a point where they feel confident giving Robinson, you know, 813 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: a drive here or there, like one maybe late in 814 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: the first half, maybe one sort of mid of the 815 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: second half, just giving him that opportunity to get the 816 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: ball in his hands, give McCaffrey a chance to rest, 817 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: and when they get down near the goal line, he 818 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: does sort of turn it up a notch, like he 819 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: does have that nose for the end zone and he 820 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: can sense it, and so when they get close, you 821 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: know that touchdown upside sort of comes into play a 822 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: little bit. 823 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 4: But again it's. 824 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: Another situation where if nothing else, especially if you have 825 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, you definitely wantan Robinson. But even if you don't, 826 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: maybe just to get him away from the hands of 827 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: the McCaffrey manager a little bit and give yourself some 828 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 1: insurance there in the backfield heading to the postseason. 829 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 4: Over wide receivers LQ like I like Jaden Higgins Man, 830 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 4: and he's a rookie and he's coming along the back 831 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 4: end of the season. 832 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 3: Man. 833 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 4: If you look at his last three games, Man, he 834 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 4: is getting targeted on thirty one percent of his routes. 835 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 4: That is an elite tier. That's the sixth highest in 836 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 4: that span within the last three games. So obviously every 837 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 4: route that he is running has value in it. I 838 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 4: know Davis Mills has been really the spark the last 839 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 4: couple of weeks for Nico Collins and the Jaden Higgins. 840 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 4: But I think even with c J. Stroud coming back, 841 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 4: we still should see a lot of Jaden Higgins. Man 842 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 4: seven plus targets in the last four of his five games. 843 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 4: This guy is starting to get elite viueme in elite opportunities. 844 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 4: Being that, hey, Nico Collins, he doesn't have the best 845 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 4: history of like having like a good health record. So 846 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 4: I think if he gets banged up at any point 847 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 4: and you're sitting in the playoffs, you're sitting with a 848 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 4: guy that's possibly the number one wide receiver. I know 849 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 4: Chris kirkus there and no Jalen Knowle is there, But 850 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 4: I think Higgins has been stepping out, showing up and 851 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 4: showing out a lot brighter than the other guys in 852 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 4: that wide receiver room outside of Nico Collins. 853 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 2: All Right, so we. 854 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: Got some life down in Houston, Lauria. Yesterday you asked 855 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 1: us whether you should sit Wandale Robinson or Darius Slayton. 856 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: I will tell you that I made a poor choice 857 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: when I told you to sit Wandale, and thankfully, for 858 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: my sake, you didn't listen to me. 859 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 3: I didn't last minute put Slayton in for Darnaul Mooney 860 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 3: because those were the three I was debating. 861 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 4: And that one didn't work out. 862 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,240 Speaker 3: I had Wan Dell in, and I know he's pretty 863 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 3: highly rostered at this point. If you're in like a 864 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 3: ten team league, he might be out there. But I 865 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 3: do have a couple of leagues where the trade deadline 866 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 3: hasn't passed yet. I don't think it's a bad idea 867 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 3: to try to get wand Dell on your team, and 868 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 3: I think Darius Slayton is someone you could throw a 869 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 3: dart on right now as well. 870 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 4: They get the Patriots and. 871 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 3: The Commanders their final two games before the Fantasy Playoffs, 872 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 3: which are both plus matchups, especially the Commanders, but then 873 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 3: in the playoffs they get the Vikings, the Raiders, and 874 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 3: the Cowboys. 875 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 4: Like you're not afraid of. 876 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,919 Speaker 3: Any of those defenses, especially if Jackson Dart is back. 877 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 3: So I think there's the Giants are gonna have to 878 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 3: throw a lot. Their running game is is what it 879 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 3: is at this point, and they could at least in 880 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 3: a couple of those games they could be trailing. 881 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 4: They actually could win two of those three games too. 882 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 2: Now they think about it. 883 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 3: But just the way that the offense seems to be 884 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 3: clicking right now. I really believe in Dart and Wandell 885 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 3: is showing out in a big way. So yeah, I 886 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 3: think these are guys that you want on your roster. 887 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, look, man, I would vote for keeping Jamison there. 888 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 4: Just here's the thing, James. 889 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: So this is sort of that thing we talked about 890 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: with like the Colts, right, like the whole Daniel Jones 891 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson thing. 892 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 4: Right, Like Anthony Richardson. 893 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: Is the guy you want because you want quarterback stats. 894 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: I think that's Jackson Dart because he's gonna run, He's 895 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: gonna score those rushing touchdowns. 896 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 4: Jameis Winston is the guy that helps. 897 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: Your wide receivers because he's just gonna sling the ball 898 00:40:54,800 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: and apparently catch the ball too. Whoever that Lions defender was, 899 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: he probably should have to retire now because you you 900 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: gave up a catch like on a on an inadvertent 901 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: back shoulder throw. 902 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 4: It wasn't the real back shoulder throw. It was just 903 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 4: poorly thrown and. 904 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: Jamison had to slow down and stop and then he 905 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: breaks the tackle and shakes you to the end zone. 906 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 4: That's probably sixty. 907 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 3: Wait, they have a I misread so their playoffs are 908 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 3: Commander's Vikings Raiders. 909 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 4: I misread it. 910 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 3: It is okay, a fantastic playoff at which go grab 911 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 3: the Giants defense. 912 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 4: Now too, those are all you could shoot against, all 913 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 4: three of those. 914 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: That's a good call, good call on that. So I 915 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: have Test Johnson here now. Obviously depending on the seriousness 916 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: of Baker's injury. 917 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 4: That could change. 918 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: But I think when you sort of look at this 919 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: offense and with no Mike Evans, Chris Godwin is back, 920 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: but I think he's still working his way back into shape, 921 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: that means a lot more attention is going to a 922 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: Mecca Abuka and Tess. Johnson is finding opportunities. I mean, 923 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: we saw it early in that game last night that 924 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 1: they were getting him the ball. He caught the touchdown 925 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: pass from Baker in the first half. But he's starting 926 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: to get more looks and I think that goes a 927 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: long way when you're talking about this offense and where 928 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: they're going. Because I said earlier this has not been 929 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: the same offense the last month that it was early 930 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: in the season, but not a bad playoff schedule. They've 931 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: got the Falcons at the Panthers. 932 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 2: Which could be difficult. 933 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: It really could mean a lot for the division depending 934 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: on how these next couple of weeks ages, and then 935 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: at Miami to end things. 936 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 2: So there are some opportunities there. 937 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 1: But I think more than anything, I think volume and 938 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: just somebody you can throw in a flex in a pinch, 939 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: and I think Tesz Johnson sort of fits that category 940 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: right now. Finally, tight ends and LaQuan Yeah, I love 941 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 1: how you book into this with Jaguars. 942 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 4: Started with Jaguars here. It just happened that way. But 943 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 4: Brent Strains was amazing man, and like I was one 944 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 4: of the few folks that picked him up when he 945 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 4: was on the waiver wire for all the injuries, and 946 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 4: I think a lot of folks forgot about him with 947 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 4: the constant rotation of tight ends that we were popping 948 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 4: on and off the waiver wire. And I think him 949 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,720 Speaker 4: coming in and making a statement game one ninety three yards, 950 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 4: my boy came in and showed up and showed out. 951 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 4: And earlier in this season we saw there was flashes 952 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 4: where he can hold a twenty percent target share. He 953 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 4: can have all the volume in the red zone as well, 954 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 4: where there's touchdown upside with Trevor mid Lawrence, and I 955 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 4: think at the end of the day, when you look 956 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 4: at the tight end position, all we want is ten 957 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 4: Fantasy points, and I think he can give you that stability, 958 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 4: being that we've seen this offense a support or tight 959 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 4: end like cadad and with Liam Cohen and b we 960 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 4: saw it with Evan Ingram when he was there with 961 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 4: Trevor mid Lawrence, so there's obviously familiarity there with the 962 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 4: position and the quarterback. So I think in the playoffs, man, 963 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 4: if you were looking for stability at the tight end position, 964 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 4: I promise you he's probably on your waiver wire right now. 965 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: All right, Laurya, would you like to change this name 966 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 1: to Taysom Hill instead of what you do have currently? 967 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 4: No, because that's a one week thing for Taysom. 968 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 3: In the league that I referenced where I lost Sam Laporta, 969 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 3: I started Aj Barner and then on Saturday night I 970 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 3: picked up Brenton Strange. I think I'm just riding out 971 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 3: with these two throughout the Fantasy playoffs. But Aj Barner, 972 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 3: I know this past week he disappointed, only gave you 973 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 3: less than three Fantasy points, but more often than not, 974 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 3: he had look. Jaya Sen is a one man MVP 975 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 3: wrecking crew, but more often than not, the number two target, 976 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 3: especially in the red zone is AJ Barner. And then 977 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 3: their schedule their final three playoff games, Fantasy Playoff games. 978 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 4: The Colts, the Rams. 979 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 3: The Panthers. The Colts and Panthers are both in the 980 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 3: top six and fantasy points per game against tight ends 981 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 3: and LQ as good as your Rams have been in 982 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 3: the last month, they kind of look like their old 983 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 3: sales when it comes to tight ends. They're in the 984 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 3: top two and fantasy points allowed. So it's it's just 985 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 3: a matchup base thing here. But he has three plus 986 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 3: matchups in the Fantasy playoffs, So to me, that's enough 987 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 3: to be in the streaming category. 988 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I have no problem streaming AJ Barner. 989 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: I mean I think you know, the Seahawks have been 990 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: trying to find other alternatives to JSN. I mean, he's 991 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: still going to get you know, I think he's getting 992 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: like almost forty percent of the target something like that 993 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:09,439 Speaker 1: right now. 994 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 2: That's not going to change a lot, but I think they. 995 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,959 Speaker 1: Want to find somewhere else to go, right Cooper Cup 996 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: and it's kind of been I think what we expected. 997 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 1: You know, Rashid Shied still has not made an impact 998 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: since he's got to Seattle. 999 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 2: So Aj Barner come on down. I think that's what 1000 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 2: it is. Line's Darren Waller, and I know he's not 1001 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 2: back yet. 1002 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 1: I think this week would be the soonest he could 1003 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: come back if they decide to open up his practice 1004 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,439 Speaker 1: window and get him back involved again. But he will 1005 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: come back before the season is over. They have said 1006 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 1: that very confidently. And I know he wasn't on the 1007 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: field a lot. He wasn't getting a lot of routes, 1008 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,959 Speaker 1: but when he was on the field, they were using him, 1009 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: and especially near the end zone. I mean, he just 1010 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 1: gives them a big end zone target that they don't 1011 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 1: have otherwise. And to what was taking advantage of that? 1012 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: And so we know how this works. If you're tied end, 1013 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: if you catch a touchdown. I got to catch a 1014 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: touchdown and you had a pretty good shot of being 1015 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: a top ten tight end for the week, right, I 1016 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 1: mean you can be at a rank And I a 1017 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 1: couple years ago had Kimba with the term the seven 1018 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: point one guys, right, those guys who catch one catch 1019 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: for one yard in the touchdown seven point one PPR 1020 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: points like he can do that in Vinco, So he's 1021 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: absolutely worth having on your roster, maybe playing when the 1022 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: matchup is right. If you're streaming tight ends, Darren Waller 1023 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 1: is a guy who could sneakily pay some dividends for 1024 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: you down the stretch. 1025 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 4: So all right, I'm take one more break. Come back. 1026 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk some drop zone talk, some waiver wire stuff, 1027 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: getting you ready for Lucky Week thirteen. That's coming up 1028 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:42,240 Speaker 1: next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. The National Football 1029 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,280 Speaker 1: League continues to honor and commemorate the late John Madden 1030 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 1: with the fourth annual John Madden Thanksgiving Celebration on Thursday, 1031 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: November twenty seventh. Madden once said there's no place that 1032 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,839 Speaker 1: I would rather be today on Thanksgiving than right here, 1033 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,760 Speaker 1: right now at a football game, and the John Madden 1034 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Celebration brings together all the things that were important 1035 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: to him family, football, food, tradition, and fun. So two 1036 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,240 Speaker 1: then on Thursday, while you take down your turkey and stuffing, 1037 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers play the Detroit Lions at one 1038 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: pm Eastern on Fox. The Kansas City Chiefs battle the 1039 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at four thirty pm. Eastern on CBS, and 1040 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals take on the Baltimore Ravens at eight 1041 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,360 Speaker 1: twenty pm Eastern on NBC. Enjoy the games and have 1042 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: a happy Thanksgiving. Time to channel Wesley Snipes and head 1043 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: to the drop zone. Guys that we are saying goodbye 1044 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: to on our fantasy rosters. I see the name you 1045 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 1: have here, and I'm wondering, will it change if this 1046 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: guy's starting quarterback is out for an extended period of time. 1047 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,919 Speaker 4: No, get him off the roster. I'm done, bro, He's 1048 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,760 Speaker 4: called like, I mean, we've given him so many chances. 1049 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 4: I think this is not the first time. It's not 1050 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 4: the first time DJ Hockinson has been on this list. 1051 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 4: Like it's one of those things where it's like you 1052 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 4: are hopeful because we hold on to what he did 1053 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 4: in the past. We know what he's capable of. But 1054 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 4: it's just not the situation he's in right now. Only 1055 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,479 Speaker 4: two games over ten fantasy points this season. This guy 1056 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 4: is not being a top priority target in this offense 1057 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 4: with JJ McCarty, Carson Wentz. It doesn't matter who it 1058 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 4: is who's going to be back there. This offense is 1059 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 4: not clicking. There's problems at the offensive line. There's obviously 1060 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,280 Speaker 4: a need and focus to get the ball to Justin Jefferson. TJ. 1061 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 4: Hockinson is not on the total POMA as a guy 1062 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 4: that I think is going to see much by him. 1063 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 4: So heading into the fantasy playoffs, if you were going 1064 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 4: into the fantasy playoffs, you need to make pivot options 1065 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,240 Speaker 4: right now at the tight end position because TJ. Hockinson 1066 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 4: ain't it. I'm looking at his game logs here. 1067 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: He had a game where he caught a touchdown and 1068 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,280 Speaker 1: still didn't score ten fantasy points. 1069 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 4: Yike, it was a long stretch. I don't know. 1070 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 3: He still might not have where he didn't top fifteen 1071 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 3: yards with JJ McCarthy. 1072 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 4: Uh no, he has one. 1073 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 2: He had one game with thirty nine yards. 1074 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 4: I say that was the game I had hope, but 1075 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 4: I was like, no, he is toasted. 1076 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: You have thirty nine yards in a game a couple 1077 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 1: of weeks ago against the Bears with. 1078 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 4: The eighteen percent target share, It's like they were throwing 1079 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 4: the ball, but it's just it wasn't valuable. I thought 1080 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:06,399 Speaker 4: about this yesterday too. 1081 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: And I'll get to you in a second, Floria, But 1082 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,240 Speaker 1: I think there's a conversation to kind of be had 1083 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: in the offseason about whether or not it makes sense 1084 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 1: to be super wide receiver heavy early in drafts if 1085 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: teams are going to prioritize efficiency and short passing, right, 1086 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a it's a long conversation 1087 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,839 Speaker 1: that involves some research, but. 1088 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 4: I'm just like watching all these teams and all. 1089 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: These quarterbacks throw five yard passes and throw bubble screens 1090 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,359 Speaker 1: and basically hope their pass catchers can get run after 1091 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:35,760 Speaker 1: the catch. 1092 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 2: And so it's now I'm kind of like. 1093 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,959 Speaker 1: You know, do we load up on wide receivers early 1094 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 1: if this is how it's. 1095 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 2: Going to be and whatever. I don't know. I mean, 1096 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 2: I've opened up. 1097 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 1: To all suggestions, but I just thought about that last night. 1098 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 3: Thanks Lomo for exactly I mean, you do. 1099 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 1: They even took Patrick Mahomes from us. They made him 1100 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 1: a dump off guy for a while too. 1101 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,479 Speaker 4: Like that's Joe Brady is doing that to Josh Allen 1102 00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 4: right now. 1103 00:49:59,160 --> 00:49:59,760 Speaker 2: It's terrible. 1104 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: Oh God, was sorry. 1105 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 4: Would you like take a moment, would you like. 1106 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,720 Speaker 2: To take a moment to to you know, verbally scold 1107 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 2: Joe Brady before you get into that. 1108 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,879 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Josh Allen has one game this year where 1109 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 3: he's averaged over ten air yards per attempt, like Khalil 1110 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 3: Shakira is the lowest air yards per attempt of all 1111 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 3: wide receivers. 1112 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 4: That's your best receiver. Like it's all bubble screens. Uh. 1113 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 3: And and Mesh he runs Mesh like I played like 1114 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 3: I do in Madden Man. Well, I'm like, yeah, the 1115 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 3: computer can't figure this out except for its real life 1116 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 3: humans on the other side, and they can figure it 1117 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 3: out anyway. 1118 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:37,799 Speaker 4: Uh. 1119 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,359 Speaker 3: Devin Singletary, who for the first couple of weeks after 1120 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 3: we lost Cam Skataboo, it was kind of a split, 1121 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 3: and then last week we started to see Tracy a 1122 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 3: little bit in the heavier side. This past weekend went 1123 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 3: fully in that direction. Singletary played just thirty percent of 1124 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 3: the snaps. He had no targets. Obviously, Tracy is the 1125 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 3: better pass catcher of the two, but that was something 1126 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,879 Speaker 3: that we didn't really get prior. 1127 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 4: To this week. And then Singletary had just fourteen carries. 1128 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 4: Low floor play. 1129 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 3: Right now, you're hoping for a touchdown if you use him, 1130 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 3: probably need a touchdown to get to double digital Fantasy points. 1131 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 3: He has nothing more than a handcuff, but he's a 1132 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 3: handcuff on a bad team. So like in deeper league, 1133 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 3: sure you could still stash Devin Singletary if you want, 1134 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,959 Speaker 3: but like I have him in a twelve team league 1135 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 3: and I'm. 1136 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 4: One hundred percent dropping him this week. 1137 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 1: I was kind of surprise because I felt like Brian 1138 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 1: Dable getting let go was gonna be the key to 1139 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,959 Speaker 1: unlock Devin Singletary. It is like, hey, man, like he's 1140 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 1: gone now, like you can get opportunity. And it's like 1141 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:44,399 Speaker 1: Mike Kafka looked at it and the like he's like, nah, sorry, 1142 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 1: this is not gonna work. 1143 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,919 Speaker 2: Mind's the guy that hasn't played for you all year, 1144 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 2: And it's like. 1145 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 1: It's officially like you could just let it go now. 1146 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon, I looked, was still rostered in like over 1147 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: sixty five percent of NFL dot com leagues and you 1148 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: could just you could say goodbye now he hasn't played 1149 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: all year. The I mean like it's like when they've 1150 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: asked Demiko, Ryan's about it, He's done everything short of saying, 1151 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 1: who's Jill Mixon? Like, I mean they just have no 1152 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 1: answers for like what's going on down there? And now 1153 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,799 Speaker 1: they've pretty much conceded that he's probably not gonna play 1154 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: this season. I mean, if he somehow does come back 1155 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 1: to play, you're probably look at it like what week, 1156 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 1: what sixteen, seventeen eighteen, something like that, Like it's just 1157 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: it's not worth it at. 1158 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 4: This But let him tell it. I mean he shot 1159 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 4: back at our our guy I saw. I mean, like, 1160 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 4: what are we doing? Like he thinks that he's playing 1161 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 4: this year? 1162 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 2: I mean, like what I saw that? 1163 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 1: Like you know, I can't remember the exact quote was, 1164 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 1: but basically like you know, fake news or something like that. 1165 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 4: But like Joe. 1166 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,839 Speaker 1: Mixon has done nothing to suggest he's on track to play, right, 1167 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 1: Like we don't even get we don't even get blurry 1168 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 1: cell phone video like I want. I want, like I 1169 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 1: at least want some big foot like footage right of 1170 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon. 1171 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,360 Speaker 4: I still think that was That picture was taken on 1172 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 4: a flip phone, probably a Razor motorole apart. 1173 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 1: Just I just I need something where it's like, you know, 1174 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,879 Speaker 1: somebody from a distance, like bro, I think that's Joe 1175 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,799 Speaker 1: Mixon working out on this high school field. Like I 1176 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: need one of those at least something nothing so you know, 1177 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 1: if you were holding on to hope that Joe Mix 1178 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 1: was gonna somehow come back late in the season. 1179 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 2: Like you can you can move on from that. 1180 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 4: MG question. Yeah, we're on this topic. Do we see 1181 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 4: Brandon Nyuk this year? I had hit you know, he got. 1182 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 1: I thought about making this a combo platter for this 1183 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,720 Speaker 1: segment too, just being like Joe mixing Brandon. 1184 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 4: I like, you can say bye to both of them. 1185 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:41,240 Speaker 4: Remember when it was week six? Was the timeline? Yeah, yeah, routes. Yeah. 1186 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 1: The only real question with Brandon Ayuk is where, where 1187 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 1: or if he plays football next year. I assume he's 1188 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,799 Speaker 1: gonna play for somebody next year. It's definitely not going 1189 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: to be the forty nine ers. It's not gonna be 1190 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,479 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. I think a lot of teams 1191 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 1: are gonna look around and be like do we really 1192 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,839 Speaker 1: need this head case? Like is he going to give 1193 00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 1: us enough production to mitigate the headaches causes? 1194 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,280 Speaker 3: He he got the deal he wanted, tore his athl 1195 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 3: and then was upset at the team like it makes. 1196 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 4: No sense to me. 1197 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny and I again, you know how sometimes 1198 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 1: you go back through your mind and back through incidents 1199 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 1: and you realize that oh yeah, no, This was the 1200 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,760 Speaker 1: signal like way from the beginning, because remember that first year, 1201 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,479 Speaker 1: they loved it. They drafted him, they loved his talent. 1202 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:21,840 Speaker 1: They thought he could be a big part of it, 1203 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,479 Speaker 1: and you could see the flashes. But he also spent 1204 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 1: a good chunk of that first year in Kyle Shanahan's 1205 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 1: doghouse because he just didn't want to do a lot 1206 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:31,280 Speaker 1: of the things necessary. 1207 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 2: Right, Like they. 1208 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 1: Needed him blocking, Like they didn't even need him to 1209 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 1: be a Puka nukua level blocker, right, They didn't need 1210 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 1: him to be one of them. They just needed him 1211 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 1: to try. They just need him to try, and he 1212 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 1: would even try. And so it was that second year 1213 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 1: when he started to break out because he finally started 1214 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 1: to buy into this a little bit. I think he 1215 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 1: looked around and he's like, oh, if I don't put 1216 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,880 Speaker 1: effort in for these other things and I can't be 1217 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 1: on the field to catch the football. But I think 1218 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 1: that that first year, Brandon Ayuk has come back, right 1219 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,399 Speaker 1: because he had some success, he held out, he got 1220 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 1: paid and so then rookie year, Brandon, I you at 1221 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,839 Speaker 1: least a mentality started to come back again. And now 1222 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: here we are in a situation where he got paid, 1223 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 1: he decided he didn't really want to participate, and now 1224 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,439 Speaker 1: the Niners are like, okay, well we're just gonna We're 1225 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 1: just gonna direct undeposit. 1226 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 3: He's not gonna get the same deal, right freshold in ACL, 1227 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 3: like what are you doing? 1228 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,839 Speaker 1: And ACL hasn't played in a couple of years. Yeah, 1229 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:30,800 Speaker 1: no he's not. It's just a notorious head case. Somebody 1230 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 1: will offer him something, but like it, amagers. It might 1231 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,760 Speaker 1: be the kind of thing where we're three weeks into 1232 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 1: training camp and suddenly it's like, oh yeah, hey, by 1233 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 1: the way, you know, Brandon, it gets like a veteran 1234 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 1: minimum or something like that. 1235 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 3: I've seen bills fans online be like that's you, and 1236 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, please, please get someone better. 1237 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 4: Like bro, you. 1238 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,319 Speaker 2: Guys, just you guys, just you just you guys just 1239 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:53,879 Speaker 2: cleared the. 1240 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 1: Air of Stefan Diggs and that whole thing, Like I 1241 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,240 Speaker 1: don't think you really need. 1242 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want, I want aj Brown, that's the dream, 1243 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 3: but like I'll take there's better options out there. 1244 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 4: Give me DJ more before. 1245 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 3: Brandon, ayuk, you know, wow, all right, yeah that's a 1246 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 3: little more. 1247 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 2: I don't think you're wrong, but that's a whole I 1248 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 2: just don't want that head case. 1249 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 4: Isn't DJ more like twenty nine years old? Though, like 1250 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 4: he's old, he's twenty old. 1251 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,839 Speaker 3: I don't want him, but I would take him over Ayuk. 1252 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,879 Speaker 2: He's old. 1253 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:34,400 Speaker 1: He'll be twenty nine next to April. So yeah, that anyway, 1254 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 1: enough of that conversation. Yeah, he's not that much younger. 1255 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,799 Speaker 1: Florida who's on the waiver wire that people should pay attention. 1256 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 2: To this week? 1257 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,840 Speaker 3: Yeah he is twenty seven. Well I kind of guess that, 1258 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,360 Speaker 3: And it was right. Quarterbacks we spoke a lot about already. 1259 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett, Trevor Lawrence go back twenty minutes and here 1260 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,439 Speaker 3: why we both like them. For the Fantasy playoffs. Running Backs, 1261 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,239 Speaker 3: Kyle Mnungai played not only more and more carries like 1262 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 3: he is looking like a big threat to DeAndre Swift. 1263 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 3: There Kareem Hunt. Look, it took him thirty carries to 1264 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,759 Speaker 3: get one hundred yards, but they clearly love him, like 1265 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,320 Speaker 3: he's going to get the goal line work and everything. 1266 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 3: Isaiah Pacheco looking like he could be back potentially as 1267 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 3: soon as this week. Trey Benson, they opened up his 1268 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 3: practice window right and they have a pretty favorable schedule 1269 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 3: moving forward. We spoke about Devin Neil and then last 1270 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 3: third Kansas City Chief. But Prashard Smith just looks explosive 1271 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 3: out of that backfield. Maybe they start to hand him 1272 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 3: more work. It's just more of a deeper stash wide receivers. Look, 1273 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 3: you must add Christian Watson to Michael Wilson. Wilson looks 1274 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 3: like they're best receiver right now, and Watson has taken over. 1275 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 3: He has surpassed Romeo Dobbs. So that's all I need 1276 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 3: to see there. Jim Ray d k Jaden Reed is 1277 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 3: coming closer to a return. Luther Burden continues to be 1278 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 3: the wide receiver three for the Bears, and they are 1279 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 3: generating touches for him. Greg Dortch as long as Marvis 1280 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 3: out is in play, Jayden Higgins as LQ spoke about 1281 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 3: we've already discussed the Bengals wide receivers, and then look, 1282 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 3: I threw in a couple of jets here, John Mitchi 1283 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 3: and Donnie Mitchell that like Mitchell had like two hundred 1284 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 3: air yards and Mitchi has been productive two weeks in 1285 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 3: a row now. And then Jalen McMillan, he's another week away, 1286 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 3: I think, but he is going to be back if 1287 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 3: you need to get the receiver and then tight end. 1288 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 3: Breton Strange, Dwan Johnson, Colson Lovelin, A J. Barner, Taysom Hill, 1289 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 3: Fiel Johnson. Like we spoke about Strange and Barner already, 1290 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,920 Speaker 3: Juwan Johnson continues to be productive. Uh, Lovelin is getting 1291 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 3: more utilized. So I'm not sure if I want to 1292 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 3: start him weekly just yet, but he's getting to that 1293 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 3: point and then the others are just kind of deeper 1294 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 3: dark throws. 1295 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that I'm I think I'm down as 1296 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 1: starting Colston Loveland pretty much every week. 1297 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 2: He's he's tied in five over the last month. 1298 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,480 Speaker 1: You know, he's ahead of He's just behind Travis Kelsey's 1299 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 1: ahead of Mark Andrews, while I had a Tyler. 1300 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 4: Warren over the last month. 1301 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of down with Colston Loveland at this point. Also, 1302 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 1: watching Kareem Hunt yesterday, he runs like he has a 1303 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 1: two by four shoved down his. 1304 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 2: Back, Like it's just straight up. 1305 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 1: Like Adam Rank used to say that Latavius Murray ran 1306 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 1: like a door, and that's kind of what that's kind 1307 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 1: of what claim Hunt runs like. 1308 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 2: Now, It's like a door It's. 1309 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 3: Just saying to me that every team knows that when 1310 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,840 Speaker 3: they're on the one, it's going to Kareem Hunt, and 1311 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 3: yet it still works. 1312 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 1: And man, look, I grew up in the era of 1313 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,920 Speaker 1: Emmett Smith, where you knew he was going to get 1314 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 1: the ball on third and short. 1315 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 4: It is good for fantasy fantas. 1316 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 1: A couple of years with Kareem Man like that rookie 1317 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 1: year was amazing for Kareem a. 1318 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 4: Couple of seasons, and. 1319 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 1: This is definitely a different Kareem Hunt than we saw 1320 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 1: earlier in his career. All right, there you go. That's 1321 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,320 Speaker 1: enough for this show. This has been just completely off 1322 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 1: the rails from a. 1323 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 4: Minute I love these are the best shows, Marcus. From 1324 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 4: the best show. 1325 00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 2: Until minute sixty. This one has been off the rails. 1326 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 1: So kudos to all of you out there who stayed 1327 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 1: with us and didn't just throw your phone out the window. 1328 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 4: We are grateful they stayed for the crash outs, bro, 1329 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 4: that's all they I appreciate. 1330 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate Kyrie Douglas are our producer hanging in with 1331 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:12,400 Speaker 1: us as well. 1332 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,560 Speaker 4: But he sort of doesn't have a choice. 1333 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 1: But you know the fact that the fact that he 1334 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 1: didn't just pull the plug on this one halfway through 1335 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 1: and just say you guys are done. 1336 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 2: We're grateful for that, so anyway, don't. 1337 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 1: Do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. 1338 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,080 Speaker 1: Stay happy, save un healthy, do good, and live well.