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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls. My

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Speaker 2: name is ty hilde Brand. That fine gentleman over there.

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Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein looking pristine? Thank you look vigorous today, sir?

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Speaker 1: How goes it at? Robust masculine? Keep going? I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I showered, I shaved, I slept well last night. Life

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Speaker 1: the Midwest and the Chicago Land area. So yeah, nothing

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Speaker 1: I made yesterday and for our good friends over at TikTok,

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Speaker 1: which I still don't know how any of this works.

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Speaker 1: But you tell me to make videos, and I make videos.

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Speaker 2: Man, I I kind of did you dirty, didn't I?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. My favorite wide receiver going into this is just

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four season is t Mac from Arizona. Tetuoa McMillan.

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Speaker 1: Is how you pronounce his name? Correct? Yes, correct, Tetoa McMillan.

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Speaker 1: And I confirm this with you yesterday because you're now

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Speaker 1: we have butchered dozens upon dozens of names in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which was everybody did it wasn't just us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Is Nico? To me? You can do whatever you want

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Speaker 1: if he turns out to be what we think he's

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Speaker 2: It's well Ea malayava ea malieva. See, we'll get there.

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Speaker 2: I have it written down phonetically. I signed up to

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Speaker 1: Two volleyball elite standouts by the way, Nico and Tetuoa.

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Speaker 1: So I make this video that t Mac is the

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Speaker 1: Like people knew who he was. He was my absolute

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Speaker 2: for your questions. It has turned to the month of May,

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Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein, Yeah, we are going to dive in momentarily.

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Speaker 1: That helps us a great deal, Dan, Yeah, shall we

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Speaker 2: Reverend djesquare, thank you. Better to root for a perennial

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Speaker 2: A solid team that could rise to these heights. But

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Missouri obvious? So obviously Missouri. I was thinking it

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Speaker 1: there's just like a rabid Northwestern Northwestern.

435
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Speaker 2: Northwestern plays all of its home games at a Viva stadium.

436
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you get like Northern Ireland suddenly becoming

437
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: Illinois fans just because Yeah, that'd be fun. So all

438
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Speaker 1: I can add to this is, yes, it's a great story. Yes,

439
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: that seems like there's ford momentum with Northwestern Georgia Tech.

440
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: I feel like there's good momentum. I would of these

441
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Speaker 1: two school of these four schools, excuse me, I'd say

442
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech and Georgia Tech, and probably lean on Virginia

443
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: Tech a little more because of home field advantage and

444
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: defensive linemen coming back, quarterback coming back. That to me

445
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: just shines a little bit brighter. If there's any other teams,

446
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: by all means, let me know teams who took a

447
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: nice step forward. I can tell you this about the

448
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 1: Northwestern stadium situation. So ryan Field is on a thoroughfare

449
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 1: in Evanston called Central Street, correct, and they have knocked

450
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Speaker 1: down the entirety of ryan Field except for the middle

451
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Speaker 1: part of the western side, which houses the press box. Okay,

452
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: so it's I don't know how wide this area is,

453
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: but it's like probably ten yards of field Worth is

454
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Speaker 1: the only things standing. The rest of ryan Field is

455
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: pure rubble. I drove by it the other day and

456
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: it was an especially foggy day, and it felt like

457
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: I was driving in Angola and seeing like one of

458
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: those ghost ships off the coast that has been long

459
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: abandoned but probably overtaken by squatters who are very violent.

460
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: That's what ryan Field look like to me driving by.

461
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: It looked scary as hell. It looked so weird, cables

462
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: dangling everywhere. He's like, oh, this has been taken over

463
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: by a group of separatists that are not that friendly.

464
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Speaker 1: That's what ryan Field currently looks like. Can't wait to

465
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Speaker 1: see it. My five year old and three year old

466
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: cannot wait to watch construction. But it is going to

467
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: be a very odd situation at Northwestern this year. I

468
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Speaker 1: can't wait.

469
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Speaker 2: I'm pretty high in West Virginia.

470
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Speaker 1: I think that's right, and they did. They won games

471
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Speaker 1: without the starting quarterback and with like a bunch of

472
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Speaker 1: weird situations. Yeah, I think there's enough back.

473
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Speaker 2: I think Garrett Green is underrated, and I think I

474
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 2: hope that what we saw out of the Mountaineers last

475
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: season is an interesting turning point for Neil Brown got

476
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: the extension, was on the hot seat going into the year.

477
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: I did everything I could to talk down West Virginia

478
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: in the preseason. They went out and they had a

479
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 2: good season, and now they've got enough back. I think

480
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: they're going to be primed and ready to go.

481
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Speaker 1: Here.

482
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Speaker 2: It's too early to go through and try to figure

483
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 2: out what their final tally will look like, but I

484
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: do think they're in a better spot than they were

485
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 2: a year ago, and they're in prime position to build

486
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 2: off of what they what they finished out with last season.

487
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Speaker 2: So they're the one that initially comes to mind. Okay,

488
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: and so I agree with you On the Virginia Tech front, obviously,

489
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Speaker 2: we've been Look, we've been talking about Virginia Tech and

490
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech schedule.

491
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Speaker 1: Now for three months.

492
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Speaker 2: We're all in on Kiraen drones at Virginia Tech and

493
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Speaker 2: what their slate looks like this coming season.

494
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Speaker 1: This isn't news to us at all. Who else did

495
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Speaker 1: he posit here? He says, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, Oklahoma State, Northwestern.

496
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: You mentioned West Virginia. I've got another school, but continue, Yeah,

497
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Oklahoma State's interesting enough.

498
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: Back, I'm still not super high in Oklahoma State, but

499
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,479
Speaker 2: I probably need to reform my thinking a little bit

500
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: around around the Pokes, just because I've been dead roll

501
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: in the last two years. Northwestern's interesting, not just because

502
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 2: of the stadium, but because the coach and the offensive coordinator,

503
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: and obviously we love Haines King at Georgia Tech, even

504
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: though it's a tough schedule. So I think these are

505
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: all decent answers. Who else would you throw out?

506
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Speaker 1: Okay, so I have an eight and four team last

507
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: year who won their final five games that are in

508
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: a power conference. Okay, So Arizona wins their final seven,

509
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: Michigan wins their final fifteen. I don't know if there

510
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: was any school that won their final six, but there

511
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: is one who won their final five in a power conference,

512
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: finishing eight and four. So starting out my math is correct,

513
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: three and four and finishing eight and four. If you

514
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Speaker 1: remove previous context, which is very important in this situation,

515
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: the Clemson Tigers fit this. Yeah, So are you a

516
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: believer in the way that ranch hand Dan has posited

517
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: this question build on their success or? Is are Dabbo

518
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: and his fellas going to be eating pretzels an Amish chicken?

519
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: Quarterback and defensive line.

520
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: Quarterback, defensive line. I said it the other day when

521
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: we did a show talking about Clemson. I'm not ready

522
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: to throw in the talent on Clemson. Obviously, there's still

523
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 2: plenty of talent on hand. And of course, despite the

524
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Speaker 2: fact that the schedule starts off with Georgia Neutral Cider

525
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: in Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta, the rest of the

526
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: schedules very work great retch of the schedules, incredibly workable.

527
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: Great year to get Florida State on the road. Yeah,

528
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: losing what they lost NFL wise, So.

529
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Speaker 2: I think you got to be a Clemson believer with

530
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Speaker 2: respect to the playoff. This is actually a great segue

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Speaker 2: into our next question that we got from Stephen out

532
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Speaker 2: on Instagram. He says, where's the cutoff of teams who

533
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: can or look like they could make the twelve team?

534
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Speaker 1: Playoff field. I don't think.

535
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Speaker 2: I don't think Clemson is in danger of missing the playoff.

536
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Speaker 2: I think Clemson right now, based on that schedule alone

537
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 2: and the talent they have on hand, I would also

538
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: write Clemson in pencil into the twelve team field.

539
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: So the interpretation can either be in twenty twenty four,

540
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: which team do you think is just like right there

541
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: on the brink and if you're if you seem worse

542
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: May first, If you seem worse on May first, then

543
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: it's not looking great. If you seem a little bit

544
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: better or a lot better than it's looking pretty good.

545
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: Or you can say which programs should be considered to

546
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Speaker 1: be twelve team ish playoff programs given what they're putting

547
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: into the you know, in terms of coaching salaries and

548
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: coaching hires and recruiting budget and nil and recent results

549
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: quarterback recruited. Like, there's a number of factors. So I

550
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: don't know which way you want to answer this question,

551
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four teams or like the playoff serious

552
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: ish programs.

553
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think there's a longer list of

554
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: playoff series ish teams that we could discuss. I tend

555
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: to look at a question like that in terms of

556
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: who do I think is team number thirteen, team number fourteen,

557
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: team number fifteen? Oh I don't, it's coming season. That's

558
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: how I think of this question.

559
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: I think you can make cases in May for like

560
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: forty teams. Sure, like I can't make a case for

561
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Speaker 1: number thirty seven being of top twelve quality. But the

562
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: number thirty seven team is probably six points away at

563
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Speaker 1: You know, in some instances.

564
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Speaker 2: If I am, if I am looking at my and

565
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: this is the preseason sp plus from our friend Bill Connolly,

566
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Speaker 2: take that for whatever it's worth. BI will be the

567
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: first to tell you that it changes a million times

568
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: through the first three weeks of the season. This is

569
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: not scripture by any stints, Okay, by any stretch of

570
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: the imagination. If I am looking at this list, and

571
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: if I am trying to identify which teams I think

572
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: are cuspy, which I think are right on the border

573
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: of that twelve team field, I focus in on Michigan

574
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: right away.

575
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: Okay, what does Michigan look like?

576
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: With so much walking out the door, not the least

577
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: of which is Jim Harbaugh, I think Michigan is on

578
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: the cusp. I look at a team like Kansas State

579
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Speaker 2: another school that you and I I think perpetually are

580
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: high on and have been waiting for them to maybe

581
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: put it all together or do so in a more

582
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: consistent fashion. They're always there, They're always formidable, they're well coached,

583
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: right on that border. For me, Yeah, I throw Oklahoma

584
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: State in there as well. Sure, I really don't know

585
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: what to expect that Oklahoma State this year. I feel

586
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: like I've said that for each of the last four

587
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: years running. I am certainly not a fan of how

588
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: they are approaching things in the high.

589
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: School recruiting game.

590
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: But they've been able to get enough through the portal,

591
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: they've been able to get enough out there, and they're

592
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: too deep that obviously last season they had pretty good year.

593
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: They also strike me as a team with a lot

594
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: coming back that is right on that border.

595
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Louisville and NC State are in that zone. Louisvill's

596
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: had a bunch of turnover both coming in and coming out.

597
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: NC State is sort of the model of consistency and

598
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: winning eight point two games a year that if things

599
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: break correctly for NC State in any given season, there's

600
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: a decent argument to be made that they're playoff worthy

601
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: and same for Louisville. We've seen it over the years

602
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: they've played in big Bowl games. The best of Louisville

603
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: can be quite impressive, you know, having Lamar Jackson, Teddy

604
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,719
Speaker 1: Bridgewater taking Louisville. I mean, this is a different acc

605
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: in a different environment. But those are teams that I

606
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: think are actively playing and building and hiring, like they

607
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: have the expectation to be in the mix. And they're

608
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: also not in a conference that's terribly stacked at the

609
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: top like the new look SEC and Big Ten are sure,

610
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: so the margin for error is a little bit bigger

611
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: for programs like Louisville and NC State on the West Coast.

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00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: I think UCLA is interesting because they are another one

613
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Speaker 1: of those teams that, like, look at their best, they

614
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Speaker 1: seem to be like eight and a half wins, and

615
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: they had a great coach in Chip Kelly, sort of

616
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 1: like he did a lot of things really well for

617
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: like he maximized what they had, but he was also

618
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: responsible for not building a more impressive roster. So I

619
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Speaker 1: think UCLA fits that, like they're right in that purgatory

620
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: area between like a playoff program in a twelve team

621
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: year at their absolute height and not being serious enough

622
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: to do it consistently. So they're right in that weird zone.

623
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Speaker 2: Can we take a knee for a second. We're going

624
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: to move on to the next question after this. Okay,

625
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 2: we have talked a great deal about Virginia Tech schedule

626
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: and how much we like it. Again, we've been doing

627
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: that since January.

628
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: Have you seen NC State schedule? No, let me pull

629
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: it up. I'm going to read it off for our

630
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: viewers and listeners. I got I pulled up their basketball

631
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: schedule and I was like, oh my god. They play

632
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: so many games.

633
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: Western Carolina. Sure, neutral site game against Tennessee that'll be tough.

634
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: Where are they playing it Charlotte? Oh okay, maybe not

635
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: Si Louisiana Tech.

636
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: On the road week?

637
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: What is this three or four against Clemson? That'll obviously

638
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: be a difficult game. But after that Northern Illinois wake

639
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: far is Syracuse Cow on the road?

640
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: Bye week?

641
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: Stanford at home, Duke at home another bye week?

642
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: Close out the year.

643
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: Two games on the road at Georgia Tech and North Carolina.

644
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, messus is row.

645
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: If NC State is halfway decent, halfway decent, that's nine wins.

646
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: You can say that if their schedule is brutal though, Right,

647
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: if they're halfway decent, NCY State's gonna go eight and four,

648
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: nine and three. Yeah.

649
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: If you were like, okay, here's NC State schedule this,

650
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: they go ten and two against this, I don't know.

651
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: Dave Doram might be allergic. Okay, no, that's a great

652
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Speaker 1: But here's the thing with the ACC, and we fall

653
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Speaker 1: into this trap. I think every summer, every July ninth,

654
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Speaker 1: we fall into this trap. We look at an ACC

655
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Speaker 1: team's schedule, when we see Syracuse Wake and Boston College,

656
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Speaker 1: you're like, this is pretty good. This is a pretty

657
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Speaker 1: good schedule. It doesn't mean anything because look who did

658
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: Pitt beat last year? They beat very few teams. Did

659
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: they beat North Carolina? Is that who they ended up beating? Like,

660
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: there's just gonna be a random week where you like

661
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Speaker 1: you're penciling in a win because this awful team is

662
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Speaker 1: on the schedule, and like, no, they beat you. That's

663
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Speaker 1: the ACC. And so I don't know that calling any

664
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Speaker 1: ACC team or any ACC schedule pretty light, even if

665
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Speaker 1: it looks it in spring and summer.

666
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Speaker 2: Martin out on Instagram. If you could pull a single

667
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Speaker 2: lever to make college football more enjoyable for the most fans, Oh,

668
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: what would the lever do? Same question, but for players.

669
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Speaker 2: I'm envisioning the Chuck Norris lever that Conan used to have, Yes,

670
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: of course, where he'd pull the lever and then the

671
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Speaker 2: Walker Texas Ranger clip would play mm hmm, like.

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Speaker 1: A weird Hayley. Joel Osmond aids, Yeah, yeah, continue, what

673
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Speaker 1: does the lever do? Dan? What would the lever do?

674
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Speaker 1: To Martin's question, so the most enjoyable like, what if

675
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Speaker 1: you were running for commissioner? Essentially, what is the platform

676
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Speaker 1: the singular item that you would run on that would

677
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Speaker 1: have the most people say, oh, okay, yeah, I can

678
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Speaker 1: book get on board with that. De alignment I think

679
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Speaker 1: would be one of them. Okay, if we're gonna if

680
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: there are no bad answers, there's always bad answers with me,

681
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: the alignment would be up there. So you're talking about

682
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Speaker 1: fans are largely watching on TV, though many do obviously

683
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Speaker 1: attend in person. Honestly, it would be for in person

684
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Speaker 1: and TV fans. It would be like one commercial per break. Yeah,

685
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: one commercial. The commercials.

686
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Speaker 2: The commercials are killer, they are killer.

687
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Speaker 1: I think if you pulled people on de alignment or

688
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: scaling back the portal. You know, they're popular things you

689
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: could do scaling back the portal, or regulate the portal

690
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: with the calendar and contracts whatever you're going to do

691
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: commercial breaks because football is a really fun sport to

692
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: watch in person that's made less fun by downtime. No,

693
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: so if you charged a crazy premium to be the

694
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Speaker 1: one sponsor, like AutoZone is just throwing hundreds of millions

695
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: of dollars at the sport for people to get in

696
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 1: the zone. I think that's pretty good.

697
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Speaker 2: Limiting commercials would be a pretty big one. That is

698
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: one of the most frequent complaints, and it's.

699
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Speaker 1: Because I don't think people care about a game being long.

700
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: If there's a lot of football, right if there's if

701
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 1: you're watching, you know, an air raid team that's throwing

702
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: the ball sixty one times and there are incomplete passes,

703
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: and that does stop the clock, it's still football. You're

704
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Speaker 1: still having a good time sitting on a couch, hopefully

705
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Speaker 1: with people you like watching football. It's the fact that

706
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Speaker 1: it's four hours long because you're getting those extended breaks

707
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: and you're going, you know, touchdown commercial, extra point commercial,

708
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: kickoff commercial. I'm might be making that up but it

709
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Speaker 1: feels like it sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Well, and since you kind of stole the commercial answer,

711
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Speaker 2: I do think that again, the question here is more

712
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Speaker 2: enjoyable for the most fans, which to me screams the

713
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Speaker 2: TV audience. What can we do to improve the experience

714
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Speaker 2: of the TV audience? The thing that I hate, maybe

715
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Speaker 2: it's just because we do this. I hate when you've

716
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: got games stacked on top of games. You've got like

717
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Speaker 2: ten games in a window, all of which you want

718
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: to watch, and you can only watch two or four

719
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: whatever you've got capacity for on your TV. Yeah, so

720
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Speaker 2: if I could pull a lever that would make that

721
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: scheduling on a week to week basis a little bit

722
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: more flexible, so that we can space these games out.

723
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Speaker 2: You can play, You can still play your day accordingly.

724
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Speaker 2: You may have games in the early block that you're

725
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: not interested in watching, But just don't give me a

726
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Speaker 2: setup where I've got a dozen games at night, all

727
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: of which are nationally significant, all of which I want

728
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: to watch, because then that that sucks because then you're

729
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: trying to watch six games on your TV at home,

730
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: and in reality, you're not watching any of them. You're

731
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: just just moving pictures. Right, So give me a little

732
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: bit better spacing on the schedule, and I think that

733
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Speaker 2: will go a long way for the home viewer. Now

734
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: he also says, same question, but for the players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I have an answer that is the is

736
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: a really good answer for the first part as well,

737
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: and the absolute worst answer for the second part. Right

738
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Speaker 1: here's the ultimate commercials. No so many commercials, four game schedule,

739
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: extra commercials right now. My alternate answer, and this is

740
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: just a very silly thought experiment college football draft. So basically,

741
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: you treat college football like some countries treat compulsory military service. Like, hey, buddy, sorry,

742
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: you want to play college football, better learn about Boston Winters.

743
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: I know you're from Florida, but you're off to Chestnut Hill,

744
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: you're off to Evanstone, and you're off to Pullman. A

745
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: college football draft, you still have two four seven, you

746
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: still have evaluations. You play high school wherever you want.

747
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: And it actually, you know, the the evaluation element of

748
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: this from a college perspective that like, you can get

749
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: great value if you really believe in somebody who's a

750
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: you know, a two star, three star somewhere. If you

751
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: if you want parody, if you are sick of Georgia

752
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: and Texas and Ohio State and Michigan and Oregon and

753
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: Texas A and m whatever scooping up all these monster classes.

754
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: Alabama College Football Draft. Oh man, so you're going to

755
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: lose a lot of people. You're gonna lose a lot

756
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: of fans of those schools. But suddenly, you know, you

757
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: even things out a little bit.

758
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: I'd be like the baseball draft, like seventy eight rounds. Wow, okay,

759
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: it'd be a it would be a long I mean,

760
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: you still what you regulate the number of picks, so

761
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: it's twenty five or something like that, and you figure

762
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: out a way to use what is it called when

763
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: the NFL, Like you lose your coach and you get

764
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Speaker 2: an extra pick if you're like a fourth round pick,

765
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Speaker 2: right right, the compensatory selection.

766
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, compensatory. So you figure out that with transfers,

767
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: maybe you get rewarded with an extra forty fourth round

768
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: pick if your team meets a certain GPA threshold. Yeah,

769
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Speaker 1: that would be the worst for the players. What would

770
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Speaker 1: be the best thing for the players, aside for money,

771
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 1: because that's obvious and worthwhile, What would be the best

772
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 1: thing to make players lives better?

773
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Speaker 2: Well, based on recent reporting, probably not going to Colorado.

774
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if we can pull that lever here. Well,

775
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: here we go, fix the damn calendar. Okay, fix the

776
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: damn calendar because it's impossible, but yes, it's impossible.

777
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: But find a way to do it again. This is

778
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Speaker 1: a lever.

779
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: We've got a lever. We can fix the calendar. I

780
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: don't know how we're fixing it, but fix the calendar

781
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 2: so that you're not forcing kids into a situation where

782
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: they've got to transfer when their teams still are playing.

783
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: I would force time off and like going home for

784
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: players right that, Like, look, a lot of players are

785
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: on campus in the summer, whether it's for schoolwork, whether

786
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: it's for workouts. A lot are obviously there for spring

787
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: and they take spring break. Now, it seems during spring

788
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: practice a lot of teams will take a week off

789
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: or something like that. But you still sell players playing Thanksgiving, Christmas, Holidays,

790
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: New Year's everything like that, Like, figure out a way

791
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: to just send everybody home to just chill the f out.

792
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: Zach says, now that the NFL Draft is over, which

793
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Speaker 2: players are you most excited to watch on their new teams? Oh?

794
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: In the NFL, yeah, as college football gurus. Well, Zach,

795
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. Which picks surprised you most?

796
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: So the Michael Pennix one. I mean, you were on

797
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 2: your way home from tennis and called me to figure

798
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Speaker 2: out what the hell is down? I'll want the Michael

799
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Speaker 2: Penix pick a week removed them. Still not sure we

800
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Speaker 2: know exactly I've seen the rationale for taking Panis. I

801
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: am not an NFL GM nor an NFL analyst. The

802
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: rationale was a little shallow to me. Didn't seem like

803
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: it made a whole lot of sense, So that one

804
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: was certainly surprising. How do you about bow Knicks going

805
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: twelve to the Broncos?

806
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I have no idea. Like I

807
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: know the Broncos are paying Russell Wilson one point three

808
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: billion dollars to not play the Broncos. Right, there's something

809
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: that's something like crazy number that he is now going

810
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: to be speaking at Davos. He is one of the

811
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Speaker 1: world is the world's fourteenth richest man. But no, I

812
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: have no idea. I know Sean Payton is like a

813
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Speaker 1: quarterback guy that he had a lot of successful offenses

814
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: with Drew Brees and New Orleans. I have no idea

815
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Speaker 1: what's a round bow Knicks, I have no idea who's

816
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: blocking up front for Bondger Guest to may your boy

817
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: is Roger Guest and Troy Franklin was drafted along with

818
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Speaker 1: bo Nicks, so you have the Oregon connection.

819
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Speaker 2: So if i'm if, I'm going to give you just

820
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Speaker 2: a handful of guys that I'm that I'm interested in. Okay,

821
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Speaker 2: I love an Isa Smith. Okay, love an Isa Smith.

822
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Speaker 1: Where's he playing?

823
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Speaker 2: He got drafted by the Eagles. Well, okay, like a

824
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Speaker 2: fifth round pick, I want to say, but somebody who

825
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Speaker 2: you and I talked a great deal about when he

826
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Speaker 2: was in college, and just feels like he's one of

827
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Speaker 2: those guys who's gonna get it. He's playing on a

828
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Speaker 2: good team that that much will be somewhat exciting.

829
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Speaker 1: To that point.

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Speaker 2: Will Shipley, my other guy, is also now an Eagle,

831
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Speaker 2: behind Saquon.

832
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Speaker 1: Behind Kenney gain Well.

833
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Speaker 2: So I don't know how much time he's gonna get,

834
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Speaker 2: but I do think pretty highly of Will Shipley, and

835
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Speaker 2: I think if given a chance, that could be that

836
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 2: could be kind of fun to watch. So I'm I'm

837
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: in on those guys. I've been in on those guys.

838
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: I'm also really, really, really interested to see if Malik

839
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Speaker 2: Neighbors pans out. I know that's probably a popular guest

840
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Speaker 2: because he was a sixth overall pick, but I'm a

841
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: Giants fan, at least sometimes a Giants fan, and given

842
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 2: the fact that he goes to what was a really

843
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 2: bad offense last year, presumably with a bad quarterback. This year,

844
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: he was talked about in many circles as the top

845
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Speaker 2: wide out in this year NFL draft, above Marvin Harrison Junior,

846
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Speaker 2: above Romadunse.

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Speaker 1: I like elite Neighbors.

848
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if I like him that much, and

849
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Speaker 2: I certainly don't know if I like him that much

850
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: in a Giants uniform. Okay, So I'm hopeful that maybe

851
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: he can get to those heights, and I am certainly

852
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: excited to the question you're from, Zack. I'm very excited

853
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: to Seemlik Neighbors play, whether or not he can get

854
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: to some of those pre draft projections. Verin lies the intrigue, man,

855
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 2: I just don't know about that now, Daniel Jones thrown

856
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: to him.

857
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Speaker 1: I like the forty nine ers. I follow the forty

858
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: nine ers more than I do any other team, but

859
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Speaker 1: I don't really watch them unless they're playing at night,

860
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: Sunday night or Monday night. Ricky Piersoll is really interesting

861
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Speaker 1: with them, just because he was able to perform in

862
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: a pretty disappointing Florida offense, and so what can he

863
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: do with Kyle Shanahan figuring out ways to get him

864
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Speaker 1: the ball creatively? That seems really fun. You like Shane

865
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Speaker 1: Gillis the comedian. I like him a lot. I think

866
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Speaker 1: he's really funny. He has a bit in one of

867
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Speaker 1: his stand up specials about white cornerbacks being like only

868
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: available to be seen at the San Diego Zoo. And

869
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: then the Eagles, his team drafts Cooper dejen He might

870
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: play safety, he might play nickel. I don't know where

871
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: he's going to play on this team. He'll probably play

872
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: special teams. But Cooper Degene in the NFL just Swiss

873
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: army knife. Very excited to see what he does for

874
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: I assume the Eagles are supposed to be good. They

875
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: should be good. They added Saquon Right is an Eagle,

876
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: so that's one of them for me. Jackson powers Johnson

877
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: just because I really liked watching him at Oregon and

878
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: he is the subject of our biggest video ever on

879
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: shit Talk Your TikTok did it wildly enough, so I

880
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: think he's a raider.

881
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 2: Now.

882
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: The easiest one of all is Caleb Williams because I

883
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: live where I live, and so everybody's been asking me

884
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: about Caleb Williams, like I'm gonna like I'm some sort

885
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: of NFL draft scout ahead of the draft, and now

886
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: that he is going to be surrounded by what appears

887
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: to be like the best situation for an incoming rookie

888
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: quarterback in terms of the receivers Roma Dunz A and

889
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: then it was what Keenan Allen and DJ Moore are

890
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: to be his best receivers, uh, and they I think

891
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: loaded up on offensive line, the inside of the line.

892
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: I think I can't wait to see how he does.

893
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: Like he has an opportunity to be like I don't

894
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: want to say Michael Jordan, but if he is what

895
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: people hope he is, which is real difficult to do

896
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: it the history of the Bears, all the Bears, that's

897
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: the problem. But like the best of the Bears players recently,

898
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack whatever, like that's just never been a quarterback.

899
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: Like I don't get the sense that people are like,

900
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: remember Jay Cutler, Like I don't have those conversations here.

901
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. So he has an opportunity to be

902
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: incredibly special for the Bears. So I will be paying

903
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: attention to the Bears much more than I have since

904
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:39,959
Speaker 1: moving here.

905
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: All Right, a few more larst up Lars Lars, what

906
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: would be the weirdest scandal for a coach to be

907
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 2: caught up in? Okay, but clearly not a fireable offense?

908
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: So okay, Lars wants us to be saucy, but not

909
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: too saucy.

910
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: Wouldn't run a foul of like a morality clause in

911
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: a contract?

912
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 2: This is like was it Dennis FRANCIONI with the newsletter?

913
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: That type of thing? Like it's things that straddle the

914
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: line of maybe being.

915
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: Not desirable but not fireable.

916
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: So it would definitely have to be universally looked at

917
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: as like this is a little weird. This is a

918
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: little weird and out in public, and this is what

919
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: I'm always going to be thinking about when I look

920
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: at this coach on the sideline right, like you, there

921
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: are countless examples of coaches in a ton of different

922
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: sports just being oddballs out front, like I think about

923
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: Mark Jackson preaching on a sidewalk yelling. We were like,

924
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: oh cool, constitutional right, blah blah blah. But like, I

925
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: don't know, that's a little bit different. What would be

926
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: that scandal? Where is it some sort of like open

927
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: marriage situation that's just like out there for everybody to

928
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: see in this small college town, which again everybody has,

929
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 1: you know, different perspectives, different views, right of course. Would

930
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 1: it be like what was the character's name from office space, Peter,

931
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: Peter Gibbons, Peter Gibbons, thank you, look at you just

932
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: nailing it? Where coach just cracks, Where coach just shows

933
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: up for his pressor kicks his feet up on the table,

934
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: is chugging gatorade, is like this guy rules, this guy rules,

935
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: This guy sucks like he's just like so candid and

936
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: just fully loses the ability to coach speak, right that

937
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: it's it's that player just or that coach kind of

938
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: mailing it in socially but winning like, well, we can't

939
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: fire him, he's just being oddly casual. What is that,

940
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: you know? Is it?

941
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: I think I have one, okay, and it is a

942
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,479
Speaker 2: story as old as time.

943
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: Calin de Bor is a fur not furry.

944
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know what Alabama's stance is on that

945
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 2: it's legal.

946
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure it is.

947
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, what if it gets out and it has gotten

948
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: out for other prominent people, But what if it gets

949
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: out Let's say via a college restaurant, Let's say some

950
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: way on social media that catches fire.

951
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: You're not going Rick Patino with this.

952
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: We're talking about a restaurant, not going Rick Patino with ohs, thankfully,

953
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 2: because that's morality clause.

954
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: To me, that would be a morality clause.

955
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 2: What if it gets out that a coach is an

956
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: extraordinarily bad tipper and bad patron at a restaurant, like

957
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 2: i'mnoxious towards the server, obnoxious towards the server, refuses to tip.

958
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: That's not a weird scandal. That just means he's a jerk.

959
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: It means he's a jerk. But that's the kind of thing.

960
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: To your point, you see that, and then every time

961
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: you look at the coach.

962
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: That's what you think of. Yeah, wash that off, Dan.

963
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: I think it has to be some some sort of

964
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: romantic entanglement. But there has to be something with a

965
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: coach's personal life or the way a coach carries himself.

966
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,959
Speaker 1: The weirdest thing that could happen. Coach decides to start

967
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: coaching from home, but they win. This is different. This

968
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: is weird work.

969
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 2: Remotely sort of the Diona approach.

970
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: Right that if, like Mike Leach had decided to work

971
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: from Key West and it worked, right? Like, what what

972
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: is that thing that a coach could get involved with?

973
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: Like is a coach getting involved with like an mlm Oh,

974
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: We're like what about that tie? What about that coach

975
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: is selling some cutcode during the week? Not a sponsor

976
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: could be No, probably not anymore? What is that weird scandal?

977
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: What if a coach started dating a student of age

978
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen twenty years old? Sort of a Petrino thing,

979
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: isn't it? Well? She I think she had already graduated

980
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: though she was just an employee. Okay, former volleyball player.

981
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm mixing up timelines. Look like a coach in

982
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: an ad started dating that would be interesting. Yeah, like

983
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: a Phil Jackson, Phil Jackson date the owner of the Lakers,

984
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: Junie Buss. Yeah, yeah, it would be like, Ah, I've

985
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: got a few questions.

986
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 2: They would probably need to report it to HR first.

987
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: But a chancellor and a coach dating and just out

988
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: in the open. Oh man, that would be something that

989
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: would be odd and probably precedented. There's probably been a

990
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: situation that we don't know about.

991
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: Okay, let's close it out this one, breckon. In the

992
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: same way that the organ duct does push ups after

993
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: every touchdown, if you tied some kind of fitness activity

994
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: to every time blank happened in a game or during

995
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: the season, what would get you in the best shape?

996
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: Oh, this is good. Okay. So we can approach this

997
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: from a like general occurrence in a game, or like

998
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: a very specific team or player occurrence, right right, Okay,

999
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: I did think about this quite a bit. Actually, you'll

1000
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: be surprised to learn. So I would say it would

1001
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: have to be something that you could do during commercial

1002
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: breaks quickly, yeah, but often enough. Right.

1003
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: You actually take advantage using judo, You take advantage of

1004
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: the weakness or whatever you lean into it.

1005
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how judo works. Okay, what's something that's

1006
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: repeatable during a game? So there's yardage accumulated so that

1007
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: the duck is doing pushups for every point scored, and

1008
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: it's not just seven each time, it's seven and then

1009
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: fourteen and then twenty one, et cetera, so it accumulates.

1010
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: I would say maybe burpies, jump rope, something that gets

1011
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: your heart going a little bit, holding a plank for

1012
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: a set number of seconds that aligns with something that

1013
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: happened during a game, or like you do at the

1014
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: end of each quarter. You're a total you can start

1015
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: and stop or whatever the total number of seconds of

1016
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 1: like a plank for your team's total yardage. Sorry, Iowa fans,

1017
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: you're not getting in shape right right right? Or like

1018
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: just penalties, like how many penalties happen in a game? Eleven? No,

1019
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: on average? I don't know something like that. What if

1020
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: you were to do five burpies per penalty at the

1021
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: half and after the game.

1022
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: You could play it every first down? What do you

1023
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: do jumping jacks?

1024
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: You could do jumping jacks.

1025
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: You could do the burpies after every first down would

1026
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: be another.

1027
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: But I don't think you want to get up from

1028
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: your couch while the game's happening.

1029
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 2: Probably not. If you are a disgusted fan, you could

1030
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 2: do it. If you're an Iowa fan, if you're looking

1031
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 2: for a game to play. Every time your team gets

1032
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 2: a three and out, you could do something that hurts

1033
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 2: yourself a little bit.

1034
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, at least it's what you're doing, is you're

1035
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: doing a positive thing to counteract something negative happening in

1036
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, I feel like a burpie is the

1037
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: quickest way. Yeah, I don't hate like it's like strength.

1038
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: You don't know what a burpie is? No, No, I

1039
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: don't hate that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can't do like

1040
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty burpies during a game. That's a lot.

1041
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: That would be a lot, But you could tie it

1042
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: to something that's repeatable. That's why I said penalties. No,

1043
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: So in a game, it's five burpies for every penalty,

1044
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: and you do it at commercial breaks or five burpees

1045
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: per sack, or you find a team like there are

1046
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: some teams that are going to commit a ton of

1047
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: penalties this year. So I think I look this up.

1048
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: It's like somewhere the mean or the aver whatever is

1049
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: about eighty on a season. So you got to assume

1050
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 1: a good chunk each game. Okay, So that's my answer.

1051
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: It's about that's about a six penalty game, six and

1052
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: change penalties per game for each team penalties, I would

1053
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: go five burpies per penalty. Could you do that? I'm

1054
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: not sure good to be. I think that will get

1055
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: you in good shape. And that's something you can do

1056
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: right next to your couch.

1057
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: This is true right in celebrable at gmail dot com.

1058
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Speaker 2: I want us know your thoughts on this and all

1059
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 2: of our questions. We have others that we did not

1060
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: get to. Perhaps we can address some of these when

1061
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 2: we do our Thursday bonus episode out on Bawlers dot com.

1062
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,440
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Speaker 2: Add free bonus episodes every Thursday, get access to the

1064
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1065
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 2: sent in their questions here. We have now turned the

1066
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 2: page into the month of May. We have much to discuss.

1067
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: The deeper we get into this month, we have a

1068
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: whole load of concepts that are lined up and ready

1069
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 2: to go here. So we're excited about this month. We're

1070
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 2: excited about the months that are ahead from this point forward.

1071
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: This sort of represents, you know, I've said this time

1072
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: and again what I would call the bottom of the offseason.

1073
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: Right after the NFL Draft, everybody stops paying attention to

1074
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: college football for about a two to three week stretch,

1075
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 2: and then from that point forward, as we get a

1076
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 2: little bit later into May, that's when it starts to build.

1077
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: So it's going to.

1078
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: Start to roll downhill rather quickly the deeper we get

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Speaker 2: done it ready. But for anybody out there who's just

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Speaker 1: What if a coach was writing under a pseudonym very

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Speaker 1: professionally erotic literature, Like if a coach name a coach

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Speaker 1: who this would seem like so far a feel like

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Speaker 1: this does not seem like this person at all. That

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Speaker 1: if Jonathan Smith is writing erotic literature Chris.

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Speaker 2: Climb In under the handle under the pseudonym Daniel Steele

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Speaker 2: would be a.

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Speaker 1: Zig Virginia Johnson r. Right, Chris Clement's writing and it's

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Speaker 1: not inappropriate. It's not like, it's not counter to a

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Speaker 1: two morals that people would hold traditionally. It's just what

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Speaker 1: what humans do when they're in love. Right, This is

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Speaker 1: just Chris clim In writing these things under a pseudonym,

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Speaker 1: and it is found out. Right, there's some way, somehow

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Speaker 1: it is found out, and you're just like, well, Chris

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Speaker 1: Clemon writes a lot of erotic literature and has been

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Speaker 1: since two thousand and two, and here is this absolute

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Speaker 1: wall of novel. I don't know how you ignore it,

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Speaker 1: but I can't get rid of them, can't get rid

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Speaker 1: of them. It's really well written. Yeah, he is just

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Speaker 1: a wizard with adjectives.

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Speaker 2: And it's one of those deals where he doesn't openly

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Speaker 2: admit to it. He never does, but internet sleuths out

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Speaker 2: and figure out that he.

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Speaker 1: Like when actually Feinberg found James Comey's Twitter handle.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was thinking. Yeah, piece together gradually

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Speaker 2: by internet sleuthing, and he forgets to switch on a

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Speaker 2: VPN or something gives away his location and that's the

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Speaker 2: case breaker.

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Speaker 1: Right, There's some sort of slip that a super fan

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Speaker 1: of this series also is a Kansas State superfan and

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Speaker 1: recognizes that Chris Climban in his press conference is using

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Speaker 1: and her books is using this unusual word more often

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Speaker 1: than most do. Right, And then they start looking at

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Speaker 1: further evidence. I think it's a pretty good answer, if

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Speaker 1: I do say so myself.

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Speaker 2: Soon Gmail dot com if you'd like to participate in

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Speaker 2: will catch you all next week. In the meantime, enjoy

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