WEBVTT - #104 - Berner

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<v Speaker 1>Sure are we rolling? All right? We are here Bootleg

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<v Speaker 1>cap Podcast. It's been a long time, man. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, the last time we did an interview was

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty seventeen. Was that like four years. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a while and we've seen each other. We talk a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but as far as like actually sitting down

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<v Speaker 1>having a conversation, it's been a long time. Man. You

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<v Speaker 1>did a whole season of Bernard's Roundtable. Yeah. I tried.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried. I tried it out, man, and it was great.

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<v Speaker 1>It was good. You know, it was good. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoyed it. I just you know, you guys use

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<v Speaker 1>your time like as you know, best as you can.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that was well received. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>you liked it. I'm to do it again. I love

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<v Speaker 1>the Tommy Chong episode. Yeah, that was good. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a good one. It was good. Now. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny because I just was watching an interview with Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Rogan one of his episodes, and he was saying, like

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<v Speaker 1>the guy on the show was trying to convince him

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<v Speaker 1>to do NFTs, and Joe was like, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>time for this shit. Like all the time I have

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<v Speaker 1>like has to be you know, allocateds wisely. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Pick, you gotta pick your projects. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>people have been getting at me about NFTs every day,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like every every day a new homie figures

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<v Speaker 1>out what the NFT is and calls me this master plan.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like the CBD joke, Like I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a great idea, let's start a CBD company,

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone everyone has a CBD company. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know about the NFT shit. I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand it, and I don't want to do something

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<v Speaker 1>for my audience that doesn't make sense. If I can

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<v Speaker 1>make it makes sense for me up here, then I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do it. But I just don't understand it. Bro, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I think you do a great job

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<v Speaker 1>of that I don't do a good job of. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's like you have so much shit going on, so

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<v Speaker 1>many companies. You got your music, but I always feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you do a great job of balancing family and work.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to how did you figure it? Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>not an easy thing to figure out how to do? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you? How do you do that? So? Well? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just know that like at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>our kids only know what we teach him. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I just I really love my kids, I love

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<v Speaker 1>the family, and I just try to That's like, actually

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<v Speaker 1>the balance I need to keep going because as spread

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<v Speaker 1>then as I am, bro, like, I'll burn out sooner

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<v Speaker 1>or later. So like it's good to like be able

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<v Speaker 1>to just turn the phone off and just focus on

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<v Speaker 1>family and people respect it now in my circle, when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with the kids and when I'm with the fam,

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<v Speaker 1>they just know that it's the balance I need to

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<v Speaker 1>keep working like this. It's stuff to work like this, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>super super draining, Nah dude, especially like however, you figured

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<v Speaker 1>out how to keep everything going while it's also kind

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<v Speaker 1>of being off the map during COVID because for people

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<v Speaker 1>who don't know you were kind of you was duck

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<v Speaker 1>ducked off up North. They're ghosted during COVID, But yet

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<v Speaker 1>you were still making shit happen, Like there were still

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<v Speaker 1>grand openings happening, and you know of cookie stores all

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<v Speaker 1>over the country, like we did new music. We you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kept a clothing rocking. I think that at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, like COVID was a big test mentally

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<v Speaker 1>for people to see like can you keep it cracking?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? Can you keep your sanity?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you? And it's tough, man, Like we took the

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<v Speaker 1>precautions before we sat down, you know, And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way I move it now. Like I got eight tests

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<v Speaker 1>in my backpack, you know, each test kit got too.

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<v Speaker 1>If I see this one, they got to take a test.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is the best most responsible thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it's accurate or not, it's a good peace of

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<v Speaker 1>mind because we can't treat people like geranis man. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just like it's getting weird. So for me, that's been

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<v Speaker 1>the best. Like now that the tests are more available

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<v Speaker 1>at Walgreens and whatnot, I've been able to move around

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<v Speaker 1>a little more. But yeah, COVID was rough, bro, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just bought a house and the cuts and just

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<v Speaker 1>chilled out for as long as I could. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that like it really like let people understand life

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<v Speaker 1>is precious and you got to pick your circles, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Yeah, you've been extremely cautious with

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<v Speaker 1>the COVID shit, a lot more cautious than some of

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<v Speaker 1>your counterparts maybe in the hip hop game, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>what what's the motivation? Behind that. I mean, my uncles

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<v Speaker 1>died from two of them, and like you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>look at my texts every other day to remind myself,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he was just fine like me and you were,

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<v Speaker 1>and then was like I'm going to hospital and then

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<v Speaker 1>from the hospitals like yo, they're gonna put me on

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<v Speaker 1>this machine and die. And so it's like it happens

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<v Speaker 1>like that, you know what I mean. And so I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen a lot of people struggle for it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that people that lost people to COVID, it hits

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<v Speaker 1>a little harder, hits home. My Grammar died man exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>and so like you know, I've just been bro. I've

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<v Speaker 1>always been paranoid though, but that's why, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always worried. That's why I've never been you know, never

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<v Speaker 1>been to jail. I never. I've always moved a certain way,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's what got me where I'm at. Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>just being cautious, but at the same time, like understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>you still got to move, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>So just move right. Yeah, that's real. I think, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a weird like unfortunately, like COVID, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like also as originally I feel like it was politics

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<v Speaker 1>that was dividing people, and that kind of leaked into

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<v Speaker 1>COVID dividing people. I believe COVID is a way bigger

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<v Speaker 1>agenda than what we see it as right now. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very big agenda too, in my opinion, and

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<v Speaker 1>we won't dive into it too deep, but I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's an attack on you know, US as as

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<v Speaker 1>a civilization, but also like US as America too. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're trying to cripple our fucking our economy and

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<v Speaker 1>just us as people. You have to understand COVID is

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<v Speaker 1>more of a mental thing than it is anything. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really like, when you get COVID, you're by yourself. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to isolate, you have to sociate. It's like just

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<v Speaker 1>fucking with your head elo much. And the way I

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<v Speaker 1>look at it now was like, all right, look, my

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<v Speaker 1>kids are back in school. I'll take the risk for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, let them go back to school, let them

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy their life, let them chill with their friends, let

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<v Speaker 1>them play sports. If I'm gonna get this shit, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get it from the house, but I'll take the

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<v Speaker 1>precautions when I'm out and about. For sure, got too

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<v Speaker 1>let's go back burn like, you know, for people who

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where did you start at when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to making music and getting into the weed game from

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<v Speaker 1>the jump, Yeah, and I mean music. Always been a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of music, and that's why I still make it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't make music because it makes me better. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I'm the best musician. I'm a fan of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love to put records together. So I start off

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<v Speaker 1>musically by battle rapping and frisco at this coffee shop

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<v Speaker 1>on Hate Street. Let's go there and battle wrap cats

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<v Speaker 1>and had fun with it and used to battle rap

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<v Speaker 1>out the people and just I mean, I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people know that, but that's how

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<v Speaker 1>I started fucking with it. And then from there I

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<v Speaker 1>met some cool producers, and you know, I had an

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<v Speaker 1>a track at the time. I was making music on

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<v Speaker 1>my garage in Arizona. I told the story before a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times, but I was in a continuation school

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<v Speaker 1>in Arizona. A kid approached me and he was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like this where I first started before going to Frisco.

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<v Speaker 1>He tried to convince me. He's like, yo, you look

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<v Speaker 1>like a rapper. You'd probably be a dope rapper spit

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<v Speaker 1>some I'm like, spit what, Like, how do you do it?

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<v Speaker 1>He like, spit a little freestyle got me do it

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<v Speaker 1>was whack. It's like, man, I think you should buy

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<v Speaker 1>my equipment. You should buy my little a track or

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<v Speaker 1>it was a four track or whatever it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like not even that actually was like a karaoke

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<v Speaker 1>setup type thing. He's like, you can record music, you

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<v Speaker 1>put the beat, you wrap on the mic, you can

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<v Speaker 1>make your own shop. Like really, So I went asked

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<v Speaker 1>my mom for the money. She was kind of against it,

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<v Speaker 1>but gave it. He was like two hundred three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>bucks or something. I bought it off him, and I

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<v Speaker 1>remember watching him go brad to his friends that he

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<v Speaker 1>upgraded to a four track or a track. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, ah, motherfucker kind of played me, but I

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<v Speaker 1>started playing with it. So start out just fucking around

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<v Speaker 1>the garage in Arizona, hundred and ten degree fucking garage,

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<v Speaker 1>serious heat, and I told my mom. I was like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>if I want to take this music shit seriously, I

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<v Speaker 1>got to get back to debaby. She moved back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bay Area because where we were fum. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>the independent music game is as JT was doing his thing,

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<v Speaker 1>go To was doing there, everyone was there. I just seen,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know forty, I was like, I'm never gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make music here in Arizona. I think my mom was supported.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, let's let's go move back to the Bay. Then. Fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>So your mom actually made the decision to move back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Bay based on you wanted to pursue music. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's huge. That's that's a big gamble on her part

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<v Speaker 1>as as an adult because she changed everything. She changed

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<v Speaker 1>like her work path, like everything she was doing, she

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<v Speaker 1>just switched up for that, which is dope as fun.

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<v Speaker 1>What year did your mom pass? Twenty ten? So she

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got to see like the beginning of this

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<v Speaker 1>starting to really work out. Yeah, she started like right

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<v Speaker 1>like she saw up until like she saw weekend at Bernie.

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<v Speaker 1>She saw like ship like that, and I think like

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't see the she didn't see Yoko the White album. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't see Yoka and all that stuff now, but

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<v Speaker 1>she at least she saw that there was like she

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<v Speaker 1>saw that's dope, man. She used to teach workout classes

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<v Speaker 1>to my ship. Wow, you know, water aerobics classes to

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<v Speaker 1>my shit, and you know, my shit ain't nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>teaching no fucking aerobics, right right, right, right, right, hilarious. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's funny. And then what about, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the weed shit. Obviously, you know you talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>in your wraps all the time, and but but when

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<v Speaker 1>did you kind of start to become like serious when

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<v Speaker 1>it came to just the weed shit, because obviously it

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<v Speaker 1>all starts from a place where it's trapping and then

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<v Speaker 1>it evolves down love of weed. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta do this, you know, no matter what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>from doing what I was doing when I was younger

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<v Speaker 1>to getting into the dispensary stuff to you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>I was just working at a dispensary, you were doing

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<v Speaker 1>security a dispensary something, right. I got hired as like

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of like an intake person, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people show up, I check their doctor letter and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's official, call the doctor check, buzz them into

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<v Speaker 1>the main area where they go buy the weed, and

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<v Speaker 1>then move me into like we actually like sell the weed.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a bud tender and then went from there

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<v Speaker 1>to a buyer. And that's when I really fell with

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<v Speaker 1>the shit talking to all the vendors and the growers

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing different strains and whatnot. Then to a manager

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<v Speaker 1>running the shop. And it's funny because people would come

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<v Speaker 1>in fans in the music and couldn't believe I just

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<v Speaker 1>worked there. They thought I owned it, and so so

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<v Speaker 1>people would be fucking with your music, come to the

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<v Speaker 1>dispensary and then they see you and they'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Burner Spot, but you were was my shop.

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<v Speaker 1>I just was fucking working there because I loved it,

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<v Speaker 1>And as my music career got bigger and bigger, I

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<v Speaker 1>had to commit less and less time to working there

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually just figured out how to do my own thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So yeah, because like with cookies, like I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>like I remember, like the first time I me and

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<v Speaker 1>you met was it was in two thousand and thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>at south By, But before that, it might we might

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<v Speaker 1>have met before that in Phoenix. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that was before or after you and Chevy did that

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<v Speaker 1>little tour run. Yeah, but I remember there was like

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<v Speaker 1>a world Star video of you and some like Asian

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<v Speaker 1>Chick where you were having to do interesting things with smoke.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people, a lot of people don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why I did that. I'm not proud of that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always joke about that she's gonna come back

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<v Speaker 1>and ham me shout out to Suki. And there was

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<v Speaker 1>one before her too, But like, so we're the first

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<v Speaker 1>ones ever put a hashpen in front of the world, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>no one's ever seen what everyone uses now, the vapens.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the first. We're the first crew to ever

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<v Speaker 1>show that off. Like my my guys invented that shit, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it was before anyone seen it. And I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out way to get equity in the company.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Yo, this shits about to be a game. Shit,

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<v Speaker 1>this is fucking twenty ninetyes. Shit hit it fucking hash

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<v Speaker 1>in a pen? What the fuck? Yeah, And so they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really understand the reach I had, and I knew

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet and promotion or whatever. And it's a World

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<v Speaker 1>Star era too. Yeah, so this is when World Stars cracking.

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<v Speaker 1>And so they're like, look, if you can get this

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing around amount of promotion, you know, we consider

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<v Speaker 1>bringing you as a partner. I'm like, all right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought the Stone Girl's gone wild and I

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<v Speaker 1>just did it, and they hit like millions of views

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<v Speaker 1>the same day. And I was like, is this good enough?

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<v Speaker 1>And they were so fucking mad. They're like, dude, what

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck would you do that for? But every one

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to depend after that, so you know, they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you did that once, you can't pull it off again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, shit, I already got an idea. And I

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<v Speaker 1>met Suki in the strip club and I was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be famous? And she was like how.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, should probably be better if I just holler

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<v Speaker 1>at you outside here, and I followed at her and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, look, you're gonna smoke this pen with

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<v Speaker 1>your ass and she's like, you're fucking nuts. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you goes viral and I bet you shit

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<v Speaker 1>goes crazy and she's like, we were I remember, never forget.

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<v Speaker 1>We're at lunch and she asked the wagers like, man, man,

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<v Speaker 1>if I smoked this pen with my ass on camera,

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<v Speaker 1>does that make me a horn? It's like a horror no,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's pretty fucking weird. It's like where I could

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<v Speaker 1>deal with. So you know, should shout out to Suki?

0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.360
<v Speaker 1>That shit went platinum. Drake dm me because of that. Wow,

0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Drake shot me a damn. I'm like Yo, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>wild man, you know. Pull up to me at the

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<v Speaker 1>model video. I'm in the bay. I'm like, damn that

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<v Speaker 1>full seen that ship. So it is what it is, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that ship did what it did? You know? Yo? Like

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<v Speaker 1>story behind Cookies because Cookies has become I mean weed aside.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's the best seller at Zoomies. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be. I mean every time I go to Zoomies,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean front of the window all over the country.

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<v Speaker 1>The clothing line itself has just became its own monster man,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's it's it's dope as fuck because I never

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<v Speaker 1>thought it would last as long. You see clothing lines

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like rise and yeah always we ain't dead, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>We're still going. And I think there's so much more growth.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the reason why it's popping is because

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<v Speaker 1>clothes are dope. The accessories are dope. It's innovative, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's fly, looks clean, it's not too much like and

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<v Speaker 1>like I did it the right way, Like I never,

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<v Speaker 1>like I watched clothing companies back in the days just

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<v Speaker 1>send huge boxes to people and I never did that, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I never I had too much pride as an artists,

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<v Speaker 1>as well to big are the artists to promote my shit?

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<v Speaker 1>I just let that shit right off my fan base,

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<v Speaker 1>and my fan base and my supporters start blowing that

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<v Speaker 1>shit up. And I still don't know how that is. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It used to be like I'd go to the airport

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<v Speaker 1>and if I saw someone with some cookie shit on,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, oh, do you know, like do you

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<v Speaker 1>know burn or like you know like because it was

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<v Speaker 1>a very small, like niche type of community. But now

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<v Speaker 1>everyone has cookies on you know what side to me,

0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.400
<v Speaker 1>cookies outgrow with me. People know who cookies what cookies

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<v Speaker 1>is and don't know me. And that's amazing because before

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<v Speaker 1>it was the other way around. Yeah, before they'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah Burning, But people see people with cookies on,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know Burn, Like who? This is amazing? It works.

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<v Speaker 1>What is like, like, give people like an idea of

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard some I mean I heard some numbers a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago, like about how how how good

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<v Speaker 1>y'all were doing on the clothing side, But like, give

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<v Speaker 1>me an idea and how good this thing is doing

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<v Speaker 1>right now? Only because I love you. I always if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at any interview, I always say I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>talking numbers, but you know, at some point in time,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, I see all the rappers online flexing

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<v Speaker 1>with their you know, their cash by their ear and shit,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do that shit. But I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>how flex say, I mean cookies on path, You're like

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<v Speaker 1>probably like I think fifty to fifty five million this year. Clothing,

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<v Speaker 1>just clothing, just clothing. Yeah, last year we did thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two million clothing. It feels great. Congrats man, And and

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<v Speaker 1>the type thing is is like we just got started, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we haven't even opened up flagship stores everywhere. We

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<v Speaker 1>haven't really went to other countries yet, Like we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>really done what we're about to do. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>the future forecast of cookies, clothing, just the clothing, not

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<v Speaker 1>the weed, just the clothing is pretty dope. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think too, like just some of the like collabse

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<v Speaker 1>and like the licensing, like when you guys do like

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<v Speaker 1>the Scarface line or the Good Fellows line that just

0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.360
<v Speaker 1>came out sick, Like it's always on point. And some

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<v Speaker 1>of the next ones we have coming are going to

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<v Speaker 1>shock the fuck out of people. Like some of the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that we've locked down is incredible. Like I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even believe we got it. Wow. Okay, and then on

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<v Speaker 1>the cause you know, I do feel like you don't

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<v Speaker 1>get it for whatever reason, you don't get enough respect

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<v Speaker 1>on a lot of fronts. Yeah, I like it though.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that shit. As a rapper. You're I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're the hardest working rap. I mean, I don't know

0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.880
<v Speaker 1>people who have an output like you. There's very few people,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the Griselda guys, who are putting out as much

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<v Speaker 1>albums as you do every year. Forty plus albums out

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I feel like it's three for a year

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<v Speaker 1>automatic and I own the catalog, so it's like, you know, shit,

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<v Speaker 1>it's right there. That's a whole nother animal too, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Like the rat money is good too.

0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't even be flexing that ship, but the rat

0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.320
<v Speaker 1>money is good too. Yeah, Like everything goes away. If

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<v Speaker 1>you just had your rat money, you'd be living nicely. Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>I can honestly live and raise my family off the music.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the funny thing is Oh, he's just a

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<v Speaker 1>wee guy, or he's just just cook that school. You

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<v Speaker 1>can say all you want, but shit, the rat money's

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<v Speaker 1>cool too. I mean twenty joints is gold or platinum? Gold? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's my only gold. Well that and uh, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on that's the only song I have that one go.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Elchievo should be getting close, but that's gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be close. Yeah. I never got a gold album though.

0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.240
<v Speaker 1>That's my that's like my bucket is before I die,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to get a gold album. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like over time, one of your albums has got

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<v Speaker 1>to get there eventually, Like, what is your biggest album

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<v Speaker 1>as far as like numbers wise, Like I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think the biggest album number wise is probably it got

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<v Speaker 1>to be. Like I think packs did really well. Packs

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<v Speaker 1>are probably my favorite. Packs did really well. Dude. Back

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<v Speaker 1>in the days when you could sell physical CDs, the

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<v Speaker 1>below albums with MESSI, Marvel did Hello Good too, Shit

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<v Speaker 1>went crazy bro, Like I was selling like fifteen thousand physicals,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? And then whatever the streaming

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<v Speaker 1>side was. So I don't know. I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>that like I like being an underground artist. So because

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<v Speaker 1>you have to understand, like mainstream artists, they get a

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<v Speaker 1>song on the radio and then as soon as they

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<v Speaker 1>come off the radio, they say they fell off. Right

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at my music career. If you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at business, it's only gone like this every year. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never shot up. I've never had a straight home run, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've elevated every year. So if I get a

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<v Speaker 1>record that hits hits, I got forty two album catalog

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<v Speaker 1>to back that up. So well, that's I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>ask you. You really don't have like a and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if any things changed, but you don't really

0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.840
<v Speaker 1>have like a manager per se. Right now, I don't

0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.680
<v Speaker 1>have a manager. I don't even have a booking agent.

0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I actually shout out to Bobby d Uncle Snoop's army.

0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.440
<v Speaker 1>He's been booking me. Yeah, but I'm really just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a sick fuck keV. I like to be hands on

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<v Speaker 1>with everything. Bro, wasn't gon say? Because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you've had records. I feel like you put a bag

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<v Speaker 1>behind a record once. I think it was the Busy

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<v Speaker 1>Body record or what was the record that you put

0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:26.119
<v Speaker 1>a back behind a record? Was it? The one with

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<v Speaker 1>this was like three or four years ago and I

0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.760
<v Speaker 1>got mad as it didn't work? Which one you got mad?

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<v Speaker 1>And I told you, Bro, you hired the wrong guy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a busy body record, bro. But

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you've had records that, like, especially after that,

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<v Speaker 1>like records of a boogie records with G records. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you've had some crazy records that. I mean, there's the

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<v Speaker 1>one with two chains Whizz Cameron and fucking someone else

0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:53.600
<v Speaker 1>that should have been should have been out of here,

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<v Speaker 1>like I just should have been gone, bro. But I

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<v Speaker 1>mean all in a Day was all and day should

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<v Speaker 1>have been gone too. All in the Day. I mean

0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.480
<v Speaker 1>that's old, you know, but that's a lot older. You know.

0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that Latino artists don't really get the props

0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.600
<v Speaker 1>they desserve. Bro. It's weird. It's weird, like it's weird.

0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.560
<v Speaker 1>It's really weird. Like it's hard to break through, bro.

0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:12.960
<v Speaker 1>But I don't even try to understand this shit no more.

0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.399
<v Speaker 1>I prefer where I'm at, Like I see some of

0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the mainstream artists and I look at some of the

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<v Speaker 1>deals they're in and some of the things they have

0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:20.359
<v Speaker 1>to deal with, and they don't own their music. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy where I'm at. I feel like you get

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of do what makes you happy in the

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<v Speaker 1>music industry without having to worry about all the shit

0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.040
<v Speaker 1>that makes people hate this shit because you're just doing you.

0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:33.320
<v Speaker 1>There's no pressure. There's no pressure. You built your own world. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. I mean we're down the street right now

0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.880
<v Speaker 1>knocking down some shit, bro, and the music sounds. It's

0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.360
<v Speaker 1>probably the best body of work that I've ever created,

0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:45.200
<v Speaker 1>and there's no pressure. Yeah. I mean, you know, you've

0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.520
<v Speaker 1>always came through the clutch with some great collab projects.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my favorite collab album you've ever done is

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<v Speaker 1>probably the one with Mazi. Yeah. Man, I think that's

0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:59.359
<v Speaker 1>front to back. That's probably top three project of years

0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:01.480
<v Speaker 1>for me because you know what, like the energy in

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<v Speaker 1>there was like it was like the best energy as

0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.119
<v Speaker 1>far as like, like I was vibing off him, he

0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.119
<v Speaker 1>was vibing off me. Made me set my game up.

0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.960
<v Speaker 1>But my beat selection is crazy, bro, Like I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>an underground Cali. When he comes back, I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>you got that Rick ROSSI are low kid, Yeah, I

0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.000
<v Speaker 1>got I got that good ear Low when he comes

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<v Speaker 1>down beats and putting artists on beats, they usually on

0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:22.520
<v Speaker 1>wrap two like, and that's why maybe I'm in the

0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:24.359
<v Speaker 1>position i'm Matt because I'll get a big artist and

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<v Speaker 1>put them on a sample beat instead of like trying

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<v Speaker 1>to go big. But I don't want to fucking go big,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't want to be on the fucking radio. Bro. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what is uh like? And you know there's been this

0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.120
<v Speaker 1>project with Wiz that we've gotten teased over for. Yeah,

0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:39.399
<v Speaker 1>I think it was supposed to come out like two

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<v Speaker 1>or three Christmases ago, like six years ago, yea with seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, I know you guys probably got

0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.440
<v Speaker 1>a ton of records in the cut no one's ever heard. Yeah,

0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:49.520
<v Speaker 1>they're sitting there, you know. I just when the time

0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:51.440
<v Speaker 1>is right, he'll let me know. And even if he

0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.960
<v Speaker 1>wants to drop it, I'm down. And I think that,

0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:56.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, like there's a lot more records to make.

0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:00.400
<v Speaker 1>And I mean me and Wiz make great music, dude,

0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.800
<v Speaker 1>like I have. I have a really good year for

0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:04.760
<v Speaker 1>beats when it comes to him too, Like I feel

0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:07.080
<v Speaker 1>like I pick really good records like with him, you

0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:09.080
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Like I love and then we

0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:11.080
<v Speaker 1>bring like a certain kind of energy out of each other,

0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:12.679
<v Speaker 1>Like when I pull up on him to the studio,

0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:14.760
<v Speaker 1>like he'll bust out a different style that he ain't

0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:17.359
<v Speaker 1>really been using. When it comes to stuff that we do.

0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:19.359
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like when the Me and Whiz album

0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:21.280
<v Speaker 1>happens's gonna be powerful because we've been sitting on it

0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:23.840
<v Speaker 1>for so long. So you know, when the time comes,

0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I think people will be fired up. Who do you? Uh?

0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Is there any talks of you doing any collab albums

0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:30.439
<v Speaker 1>or anybody else? Right now? Seems like we get one

0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:32.520
<v Speaker 1>a year or so. Yeah, you know, me and Rose

0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:34.960
<v Speaker 1>are supposed to do one like a small EP like

0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:37.919
<v Speaker 1>probably three to six songs. That's gonna be fire, you

0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:39.560
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Like I can't wait for that.

0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I've been actually saving like a lot of mental space

0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:45.359
<v Speaker 1>for that. Like if you notice this year, I drop

0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:47.480
<v Speaker 1>less albums this year than I ever had because I've

0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.080
<v Speaker 1>been waiting for the Rose album. And then me and

0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Azuna are doing like a project. It's not a it's

0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:54.320
<v Speaker 1>not a Goop album. We'll probably have like two or

0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:57.440
<v Speaker 1>three records together on there, powerful ones, but we're gonna

0:20:57.520 --> 0:20:59.800
<v Speaker 1>use like our both of our reach to put together

0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:01.840
<v Speaker 1>like sick ass projects just kind of based around the

0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.440
<v Speaker 1>brand we're building. So you know, other artists from Latin

0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:06.920
<v Speaker 1>America from here just create like a sick ass like

0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:09.840
<v Speaker 1>almost like a compilation but more like a maybe this

0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.399
<v Speaker 1>will be like an annual project like every other year

0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:15.640
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. You and Ross. Ross is somebody

0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:19.240
<v Speaker 1>who I feel like has also kind of laid the

0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:21.879
<v Speaker 1>blueprint on how to be a successful entrepreneur. One of

0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:24.439
<v Speaker 1>the easiest best partners I've ever worked with. I mean,

0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:28.680
<v Speaker 1>he's one of the hardest working, smartest, easiest partners I've

0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:31.600
<v Speaker 1>ever had, straight up. Yeah, because you've obviously collaborated with

0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:33.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of artists on the on that side of

0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:35.880
<v Speaker 1>the game, right And I'm sure sometimes it's a little bit,

0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:38.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, things haven't worked out sometimes, And I'm sure

0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:40.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, some people are just scared to use their

0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:42.560
<v Speaker 1>platform to promote the shit you're working on. Like Rose,

0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.359
<v Speaker 1>he's getting on Instagram, He's pushing that shit. He's not playing.

0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:48.960
<v Speaker 1>He's a businessman. And also he understands the long term play.

0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:51.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, my advice to a lot of people out there,

0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:53.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people are looking for that money right now.

0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:55.440
<v Speaker 1>They want their money right now. What can I get

0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:58.359
<v Speaker 1>right now? There's power in building equity, you know what

0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like when I look at equity and cookies alone,

0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Like the weed side, we talked about the clothing side.

0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:05.359
<v Speaker 1>We look at the weed side we're getting. We're gonna

0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:07.480
<v Speaker 1>get there for sure. Yeah, So I know what my

0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:10.199
<v Speaker 1>equity is. I'm not I only take a small salary

0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:12.520
<v Speaker 1>from Cookies to weast side. I get like a salary

0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.320
<v Speaker 1>that's almost laughable when the type of shit I do.

0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:18.080
<v Speaker 1>But the equity is there if I ever want to pull.

0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:20.360
<v Speaker 1>So he understands that long term play. And that's why

0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:22.320
<v Speaker 1>me and Rose work so good together because he knows

0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:25.280
<v Speaker 1>we're building something that's super long term. Especially when we

0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:28.159
<v Speaker 1>open up Cookies Florida. His brand's gonna dominate out there

0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:29.800
<v Speaker 1>because he's been such an easy guy to work with,

0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:32.160
<v Speaker 1>and we take that in the back of rad right cool.

0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:34.680
<v Speaker 1>When we open up Florida, we're gonna have four hundred

0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:37.359
<v Speaker 1>thousand square feet of indoor cultivation. I'm gonna put this

0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:39.480
<v Speaker 1>shit in heavy rotation. We're probably gonna make it store

0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:42.359
<v Speaker 1>dedicated to his brand, Collins ab fully decked out with

0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:45.240
<v Speaker 1>his logos everywhere. Like, I just appreciate the hard work

0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:47.320
<v Speaker 1>and the vision and the long term play because there

0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:50.040
<v Speaker 1>is a big exit, you know. Yeah, let's let's get

0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's kind of tap into the weed shit a bit.

0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, man, you are underappreciated, under respected in

0:22:55.880 --> 0:23:00.320
<v Speaker 1>this game. I always tell everybody Burner is rich than

0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:02.640
<v Speaker 1>all of the rappers, like you know, and I don't

0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:04.439
<v Speaker 1>even I don't even try to think like that. No,

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:07.119
<v Speaker 1>but I listen. I'd be having arguments about fuckers for

0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 1>you when you ain't around, and I'd be like yo,

0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:12.679
<v Speaker 1>like legit. And I'm not saying no names, but I

0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:16.159
<v Speaker 1>don't know anybody in hip hop outside of maybe fucking

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:19.680
<v Speaker 1>doctor Dre or some shit, maybe Diddy. You know, maybe

0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:21.199
<v Speaker 1>you know the guys we think of, and these are

0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:23.280
<v Speaker 1>more executives at this point. But when we're talking like,

0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anybody who's who's fucking with you when

0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:29.320
<v Speaker 1>it comes to net worth, buddy, at this point, well,

0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:33.040
<v Speaker 1>if you look at like cookies, clothing, cookies, cannabis, if

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:36.080
<v Speaker 1>you look at Vibes papers, Vibes is on a crazy,

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:39.960
<v Speaker 1>crazy run, crazy traction, Like I get anxious think about that,

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 1>and you think about like equity and weed maps, and

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 1>you look at stuff like Gepen and San Cruz Shredder,

0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:47.399
<v Speaker 1>and you know things that people forgot I have my

0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:50.560
<v Speaker 1>hands in, Like there's a crazy ecosystem of very valuable

0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 1>companies and it's kind of spooky sometimes, man. I just

0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:56.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, I heard listen to me, I heard a

0:23:56.560 --> 0:24:01.399
<v Speaker 1>rumor that that cookies was offered, uh pretty much to

0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:03.480
<v Speaker 1>get bought for like close to a billion dollars and

0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 1>you guys turn that down. Is that true? Yeah? No,

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:07.720
<v Speaker 1>we get crazy offers all the time. Someone was just

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 1>sitting down with us recently trying to get us to

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:13.280
<v Speaker 1>go take our shit out on the Canadian Canadian stock

0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Market and whatnot. And the numbers there talking about there

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:19.000
<v Speaker 1>if we went out, like it's crazy, and I just

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 1>like the way I look at is like that shit

0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:22.880
<v Speaker 1>ain't real. I just keep my head down, keep trying

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 1>to focus on you know, how do we keep this

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 1>shit running? I don't even think, because if you focus

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:29.960
<v Speaker 1>on the numbers too much, you'll get caught up in that,

0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:32.680
<v Speaker 1>you'll get comfortable. I'm never comfortable. You know. We had

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:34.359
<v Speaker 1>we had this ship set up at new and I was,

0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I text you, hell early, can we do earlier? Yeah?

0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:38.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like course, because I always work bro I

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:40.879
<v Speaker 1>and I think I got that from my pops, you

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:42.679
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like, I just never really focused

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 1>on it. But to get to your point, yeah, the

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 1>network is probably pretty pretty powerful right now, and I

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:49.880
<v Speaker 1>don't even know when or how that's going to happen.

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Knocking on a billion, yeah, probably, I think so, I

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:55.360
<v Speaker 1>think so. I mean I don't really know. I mean,

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I know cookies is I know next time we raise

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:01.400
<v Speaker 1>money for cookies going to be in the multiple billions.

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:03.880
<v Speaker 1>So just look at that like that. Well, I mean

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 1>it seems as if too, like anytime there's a new

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>market that becomes legal, there's like three cookie stores that

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:12.879
<v Speaker 1>open in the state straight up. And then you got

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Lemonade too. Yeah, and Lemonade is another brand that your

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:19.399
<v Speaker 1>sister brand. Yes, you don't want to overwater every you know,

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>hell of cookie stores, you know, cookies like Nike town

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 1>almost right, But we came with the sister brand, Lemonade,

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:29.159
<v Speaker 1>which is killing it too. And I mean, it's just

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:31.560
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy to think about how much more growth there is.

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's Latin America, there's Europe, and you and

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Ozuna are doing something in Puerto Rico, right Puerto Rico.

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 1>There's the East coast. We didn't even hit the East coast. Yo.

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I was town man. We were just talking about New York,

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 1>me and my boys, Like YO, when New York. When

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 1>the Cookies hits New York, Oh my god, it's about

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 1>to go crazy. And I think the best thing about

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>our company is that we have such a good team

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>of breeders and we're menu planning out for one hundred years,

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 1>not right just right now. I got so much genetics

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 1>in my hands right now, from all the breeders that

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 1>we have in house and the ones that we collaborate with.

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I kind of treat it like beats. I'll sit down

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:08.400
<v Speaker 1>with the breeder we do a breeding project. I'm gonna

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 1>pick ABCDFG right, boom, I'll take these. I'll tell them

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:13.879
<v Speaker 1>just keep them at least a couple of year or

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.439
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. But we have so much genets that

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:19.119
<v Speaker 1>we're planning out for one hundred years. So you know,

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 1>we're doing really cool shit right now where we'll film

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>it and be like, yo, it's twenty twenty one. I'm

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:27.160
<v Speaker 1>sitting here. It's like a Mexican chocolate I did with Body.

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Shout at Body, C's we're gonna take this. I wanna

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:31.919
<v Speaker 1>drop this in twenty eighty. We're gonna put this in

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 1>tissue culture. This is the flavor profile. And if you

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:36.919
<v Speaker 1>work at Cookies right now, and you want to know

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 1>why we're dropping this. This is why I like it,

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 1>and this is why I want to name it, and

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna drop in twenty eighty and we take that

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:43.360
<v Speaker 1>footage and we put it away. So one day maybe

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 1>it'll be a hologram or one day it'll be a

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 1>video message, so maybe an NFT something, right, But point

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:50.159
<v Speaker 1>being is, I don't want to open up all these

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:52.119
<v Speaker 1>stores around the world and then have no purpose in

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 1>a direction or a vision, right, Like I thought it'd

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:56.719
<v Speaker 1>be cool that we have hundreds of stores around the globe.

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Right when I'm dead and gone in the future, they

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:02.920
<v Speaker 1>see video of like why we're releasing this train, why

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 1>he liked it, why he named it what it is,

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:08.679
<v Speaker 1>and to give my my employees and my team and

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:11.919
<v Speaker 1>whoever is running them stores fucking vision, bro, Like how

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 1>these people fired up, Like a picture of you know,

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Colonel Sanders popped up and was like, yo, hey guys, yeah,

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:19.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I think people at them drives who

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>would take their shit a lot serious. You know, I'm

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot more serious. So we're planning out and that's

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>my main thing, is, like I don't get caught up

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>in the numbers of what Cookie is doing. I'm getting

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>caught up in how do I keep the shit sustainable

0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. I want to be one hundred

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:32.360
<v Speaker 1>year brand. I don't want to be a brand that's

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 1>right now. I want to be popping later. As you know,

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 1>we had a couple of interactions with a weirdo out

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 1>in Arizona, trying to make some stuff happen out there. Yeah,

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>but I've realized that in the weed game there's a

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of fucking weirdos involved. There's a lot of emotions involved,

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:49.919
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of ego, a lot of ego, a

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of emotions, a lot of a lot of hay.

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, people will try and knock what I do,

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>and I tell him like this, I work with hundreds

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:00.439
<v Speaker 1>of partners and operators. It's the hardest thing ever to

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 1>do what we do. Yeah, because for people who don't know, like,

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>not all cookie stores are the same, right, It's not

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 1>like you have to partner with people. It's a very strategic,

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 1>unique model. I said, like this, look and going back

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:15.880
<v Speaker 1>to raising money, the reason why we turned down that

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that eight hundred mili back in the day is what

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>was mostly stocked. There was a good upfront. Don't get

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:21.200
<v Speaker 1>me wrong. There was a lot of cash, but most

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:25.120
<v Speaker 1>of it was stocked. But I decided to raise small, right.

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I raised twenty million bucks and I'm still working off

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 1>that same twenty million dollars from that interview, and we

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 1>stretched it and turned this shit into a fucking empire

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.640
<v Speaker 1>wocause we decided instead of going out and buying assets

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and building from the ground that would take too long,

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>life short, take a lot of let's go identity and

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>take a lot of money, which means a lot of dilution.

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 1>That's why my network is high, because I kept my

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>equity right. So what we did decided to do was

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>let's go around the world. Let's go around the country

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and find the operators that are killing it right now,

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>right with their stores that they have going right now,

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>or with their girls they have going right now. Let's

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>do a partnership with them that's very rich in their

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 1>favor for right now, right and keep the majority of

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the money coming in right now. But we get a

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>roll up option on their stores, We get a purchaser

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>store in the future, right, we get a small rip

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>on percentage, and we get to have creative control of

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>their operations. So you empower a great grower in New Jersey,

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>give them their exit plan, you give them, you give

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>exactly provide with exit plan, but you empower their knowledge

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and their skills. I would rather work with a bunch

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>of talented people than have to build everything for it

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>would take too long. Yeah, it takes It's a lot.

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>So our business model was find incredible operators from here

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>to wherever we're going, empower them, give them our genetics,

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>give them our SLPs, make sure we have a great

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>team on the ground to oversee the operation and build right.

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>And it's worked fucking incredible. It's for people who don't

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 1>know it's it's it's similar for people who aren't really

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>into into the weed game. Would you say it's similar

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>to kind of like a franchise model, Nah, it's different.

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like, but you guys get to cure your rate.

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Who gets that carry pick like I'll go I'll go

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 1>to Massachusetts for example. You're not going to just let

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 1>anyone get the cookies brand. It would be over. It's

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>quality control involved. To go to a market and you

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>find the best cultivator, the best operator, and you go

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>look at all them and what they're doing before they

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>even think about partnering with you, and you you cherry

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>pick the best and you form a partnership with them.

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 1>You pick who's going to do it. So it's it's

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>almost like a franchise idea, but totally different, except for

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>you guys get to pick because you're not gonna jeopardize

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the brand because when we think of cookies, we think

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>of the best weed in the world. Yeah, no, it's

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 1>it's really cool. So it's kind of like a franchise,

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 1>but way different because no one could just come to

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>us and say, hey, we got one hundred grand, let's

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>let us get not It doesn't work like anybody can

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>open a Quiznos. You can't open the cookies. You guys

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>have to. It's got to be a mutual choice. Have

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>you had a situation where you had a partner and

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>it just didn't ended up working out, or maybe they

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 1>ended up maybe fumbling, or what happens that happens to everything.

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that we've done a really good job when

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>finding partners, just like picking, because I've been in this

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. But you identify me and you

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>had a similar situation we talked about. You identify things

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>right away, like Oh this ain't gonna work. Yep, it's

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>too trippy. We won't move forward with that. So I

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:17.959
<v Speaker 1>think that we have done a good job of like

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 1>judging character kind of like finding the best you know

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:22.959
<v Speaker 1>in class that we can find. So we haven't had

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>too much problems. But I think the biggest problem we

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>have is like denying batches, you know what I mean,

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Like we have a very strong QC team right now,

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>and it took a while to learn that. Like I

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>would lie, I didn't say there was learning curves to

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>expand this fast, right, But what we've done is like

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>in single markets will say, hey, we're not we're not

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 1>approving any of this, Like you can go package under

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 1>something else. It's not coming out, it's not coming in

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 1>our bag. Yeah, So it's hard. That's the only struggle

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>is like we end up denying sometimes more than we accept.

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 1>That's to protect the brand. I mean, you can't just

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>put bullshit out. What would be some advice, you know,

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>because I got to imagine from your perspective, right, you're

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, the one thing that I think makes you

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 1>different than a lot of rappers who are trying to

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>do the weed thing is like your genuine passion for

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the whole process and not for just you know, if

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 1>we think of a lot of these rappers, they're just

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>trying to be you low key. Everybody wants their own cookies.

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 1>But like you said earlier about Ross, a lot of

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 1>guys just want money now. They want to put they

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 1>want to say, hey, what's what's my money now? Looking

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>like as opposed to trying to really build a brand.

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like so many rappers are just horing

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 1>their name out now in the in the weed space.

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like kind of crazy. And even rappers that don't smoke,

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of rappers who do not smoke weed.

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not even talking about like shout out to

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 1>jay Z not a big smoker, but Jay is a

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>fucking boss, So i'd expect you to get into the

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>cannubs came. But there's a lot of rappers who are

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>participating in the weed culture right now that really have

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>never been in the weed culture. Is that kind of

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>frustrating for you to kind of I mean, it doesn't

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>really matter at the end of the day, but is

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>it not. I don't I don't even take it a

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>certain type way the way I look at us like

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>this Why do I do this still? Right, It's emotional

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's crazy a lot I'm take, probably taking years

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 1>off my life from stress, but I do it because

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I notice that weed really unites people.

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>It brings people together from every different walks of lix,

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>whether you're old, young, gay, straight, fucking you know whatever.

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I've seen weed unite people all around the world. That's

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 1>why I do it. Right. Two, I love weed. I'm

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with I've been doing it for so long, so

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I guess I say to that to say I'm passionate

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>about this shit. When you're passionate about something, you really

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 1>live it, and you walk in and you understand why

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you're doing it. I don't think you can even worry

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>about no one else. So I welcome everyone getting in

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the game. Will open arms, but I think that they'll

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 1>burn themselves out because they might not really be passionate

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 1>about it. You go to my studio session right now,

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 1>there's forty two jars later on the table, all different

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 1>names on them. I got a notepad next to those jars.

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm just smoking them, taking notes on what I like

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and why I like it, and slowly putting them aside

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>and picking which ones I'm gonna keep, which ones I'm

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna give away? And it's a fucking process. I love

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>this shit. I do this shit, will I live, eat,

0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and breathe this shit. So you know, the people that

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 1>are in the game that want to just get in

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>to get in, I think they'll just burn themselves out.

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>What would be some advice you would give someone watching

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>this who is trying to get I'm not even talking

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 1>about rappers, just in general, trying to get it into

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>the legal side of the weed games. Start from the

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 1>ground up, like I did. Learn the business, Understand what

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 1>you want to do and why you'll be impactful that

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 1>in that space, and work your way up. That's what

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I did. I mean I tell people all the time,

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>if you want to get in the week game, go

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>work at the dispensary. Understand the consumer. Understand the vendor.

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Understand the grower. Understand the buttender, the pos system. Understand

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:36.919
<v Speaker 1>the butt tender, Understand how to merchandise. Understand everything before

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:38.359
<v Speaker 1>you get in. Decide what you want to do. Do Do

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>you want to be a designer, you want to be

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 1>a grower, you want to be a store operator? Do

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:44.280
<v Speaker 1>you want to be do you want to build a brand,

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Like what do you want to do? I think building

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>a brand is a lot more difficult than people think.

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>You can't just take a fucking T shirt, put your

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:52.360
<v Speaker 1>logo on it, put it back with your logo on it,

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and now you've got a brand. There's a lot deeper

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 1>in that. Trust me, I'm aware and I think that, Like,

0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>if you go back to YouTube, I think the reason

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 1>why Cookies residenting with peoples that documented every step of

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>that process. So if you're going to build something, document it,

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>because you can go see me pulling the strings to

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.879
<v Speaker 1>my hoodies, you know, fifteen years, ten years ago, nine

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 1>years on YouTube. On YouTube, you can see me making

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 1>those hoodies, selling that shit. You can see me in

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>the dispensary way long ago. Right, Like I've documented every

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.239
<v Speaker 1>process of it, so people resonate with it. They know

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 1>it's real. It's crazy. You mentioned branding because like you have,

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you could write a book on how

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 1>to brand. I want to because I'm trying to get

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>a book deal right now. Yeah, Because like if you

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>think about the Cookies brand, the color the Cookies blue,

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 1>just the logo, just everything is so two logos. You

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 1>got the font which is on my hand. You got

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.319
<v Speaker 1>the circle see by if they ever say cookies can't

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 1>be used because it's you know, attracting children. Whatever they

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:45.720
<v Speaker 1>might use, you got the colorway if all else fails,

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Like I just came with a straight identity, Bro, And

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I just I just learned it from watching, you know,

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 1>watching the business I was in the dispenser. I know,

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>no one really had a real brand. It's like when

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>you see that blue, you know what time it is? Yeah,

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 1>what was the thought process behind that color? Because that

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 1>color it sticks out, it's you know, it was the

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 1>first hoodie I made, Bro for the Yoko video, Like,

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:07.799
<v Speaker 1>I just I was like, give me like a like

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>a different blue, like with the blue strings. Like I

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:11.720
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to do something that would pop on camera

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 1>when I seen them, Like that's my colorway right there.

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 1>How important was that record Yoko for you, man? Because

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 1>that was you know that record also went to radio right,

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 1>and I think you had a bad going for that record.

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 1>You had big grit Chris Brown Whiz Was that the

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 1>first record you and Wizard did? That was twenty ten, right,

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that that is the first Whiz Whiz song. Yeah,

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:34.879
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was a big record. For me, and

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:36.879
<v Speaker 1>I think that like there's a story behind that shit

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>that no one even knows about. Not just like the

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 1>making of the video was wild. Like when I did

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:46.400
<v Speaker 1>that song, I ran into Chris Brown in the studio

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>right he was there. I was smoking bud. His cousin

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 1>smoked the bud. It was like, oh, shot, fuck, would

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:53.799
<v Speaker 1>you come eat? Brown got Brown in the video Back then.

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 1>His manager was Tina David. She said all right, well

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 1>he well we'll prove him doing the record. We cannot

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:03.839
<v Speaker 1>do any video, like video is not happening whatever. So

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I got the record done with Big Crit Chris Brown.

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Big Krit made the Beag shit was tech. I was like,

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 1>I gotta do a video for this. So I was

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>getting that Brown's cousin he was like, look, if you

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:16.800
<v Speaker 1>want to get Chris to come out, you got to

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 1>bring something dope, Like he got Hello cars. He likes

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 1>to drive his cars. Like, think of a way you

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>can have him go. Provide an area for you know,

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:25.319
<v Speaker 1>for him to spin out in his cars or something like,

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>come with something and I'll pitch it to him. Like

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:29.360
<v Speaker 1>all right, cool. So I was thinking, like maybe I

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>can get a race car track, and so I called

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:34.399
<v Speaker 1>that NASCAR place in Irvine or or whatever the fuck

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:37.279
<v Speaker 1>this shit was. And I asked him how much it was,

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and I said, well, what do you want to do?

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I said tomorrow. He's like, no, like, it's not happening.

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, well how much is it? He's like,

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>well how much you got? Like I got fifteen hundred?

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 1>He laughed at me. He's like, man, like, we wouldn't

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:50.439
<v Speaker 1>even run out of the parking lot for less than

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:52.840
<v Speaker 1>fifteen g's and you want to use the fucking racetrack.

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, buddy, it's not happening. I'm like, what can

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I come see you in person? He's like, if you

0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 1>want to hear no to your face, come through. I'm

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:01.840
<v Speaker 1>like for sure. So I pulled up over there. I

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 1>met this guy, square dude, square ass, motherfucker, old dude.

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:08.439
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Yo, come, you know I'm here, you know, so, yeah,

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know what to tell you, kid. You

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 1>know it's not happening. I told you, if you want

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>to hear no to your face, no, okay, can you

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.319
<v Speaker 1>just do me one favor. It's like, what I might

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 1>go to your computer. It's like, all right, I pull

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:22.319
<v Speaker 1>it whiskally on YouTube and look at his views. Look

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>at his views. Like, all right, so I might go

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>to Chris Brown, look at his views, pulls it up.

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 1>He looks at the views. He's like, if this is

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 1>about like you think you're gonna give me promo? Look outside,

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I got Coca Cola, I got pepstake, all these places

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 1>paying me money to be on my wile Like, it's

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:38.240
<v Speaker 1>not about that. Let me finish. Go type in Burner,

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>look at my views, typed in Burner. I'm like, you

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 1>see the difference. I'm like, bro, like this guy ain't

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna come do this video if I don't think of something.

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 1>And I only have one day. So if you provide

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 1>me this spot, you can change my life. Bro, straight up.

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 1>But I just had to hear a knowing person. Bro,

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 1>so I appreciate you. And the dude was like, you

0:38:55.520 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>know what, come here tomorrow, save your fifteen hundred, bring

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 1>five for the ambulance, and you could use my racetrack.

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you coming here. I appreciate you telling me

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 1>why it was important to you, and I'll let you

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 1>use the place. I'm like, cool, So I leave and

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.400
<v Speaker 1>we show up the next day. This guy's daughter was

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:16.320
<v Speaker 1>the biggest fan of Chris Brown. Ever, I guess he

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>went home and told her, this guy brought down the

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 1>fucking race car drivers that did the video for Otis,

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 1>for jay Z and Conne. What this guy brought out

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 1>fucking semi fucking eighteen wheel trucks. Spin it out in

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:30.839
<v Speaker 1>the video right straight? One hundred and fifty thousand dollars

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 1>production value at least right let me do my thing there,

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Brown pulled up. The energy was crazy. You see them

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 1>carting around. Bro, I only spent five hundred dollars for

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 1>that shit. Bro on everything I love, on everything I

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:48.359
<v Speaker 1>love right like that shit was crazy as fuck. And

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 1>then you see the scene where I'm driving the eighteen wheeler. Bro.

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I went to Atlanta and I went to every I

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:58.360
<v Speaker 1>went to every truck stop where all the truckers were resting,

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and knocked on fucking doors and had a thousand dollars

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 1>and try to convince a driver let me drive his ship.

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:06.319
<v Speaker 1>They called the cops on me twice. I finally got

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:09.160
<v Speaker 1>some cuddy Nigerian dudes like whatever, you got a thousand bucks,

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 1>it's yours? Oh, you know how to drive? People don't

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 1>even know this I don't even know how to drive.

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm driving fucking car. Oh you don't drive, No, I

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.799
<v Speaker 1>drive a boat. I don't drive no fucking car. So

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I was let alone a fucking semi. The guy was

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 1>laying on the ground with his foot on the fucking

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>gas holding the pedal. I'm sitting there riding on the

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:30.440
<v Speaker 1>fucking freeway, bro fucking riding this shit, rapping and the

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 1>guy's sweating. Dude like, oh my god, sir, we're done.

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 1>We're done. I'm like, no, no, not when we're seen,

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 1>when we're seeing. So that video was hella crazy to me.

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 1>It's hell important to me. Now. Atlantic Records put the

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:43.840
<v Speaker 1>season assists on it for whatever reason, which makes no

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 1>sense to me. So it's not available anymore. But it

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 1>was big. I didn't that that. That's crazy. It's not

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:52.279
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, No it is, but it's not the one

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I put up with all the millions of views. Someone

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:55.879
<v Speaker 1>like ripped it and put it on their own channel

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 1>or something. Yeah, that was, and that was prior to

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 1>you being officially Tailor Gang. Well, it got it got pulled.

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 1>It got pulled when I when I was with Taylor

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Gang because some dude, I'm gonna say his name. Some

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 1>dude took the song to try to do some license

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and deal with someone in fucking Europe, and the Atlanta

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 1>got pissed and fucking pulled it. But you know whatever, Yeah,

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:17.879
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna ask you, like, you know, the era

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 1>of Berner and Taylor gang like was a hell of

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 1>a run. Like you know obviously you and Wizard always fan,

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, But like what, I guess

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:30.400
<v Speaker 1>what did having that code sign for do for you

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>as a rapper? You know what I'm saying. Like, I

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 1>just text Wiz this morning and thanked him, Bro. I

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 1>woke up this morning. I was just like, Bro, I

0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:38.840
<v Speaker 1>love you guys when I met you. When I met Wiz,

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:41.799
<v Speaker 1>my mom and just died from cancer. Right, so I

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 1>was in a dark place. I was trying to get

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 1>away from the street ship because I was really like

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I was really fucking with that ship bro hard Like

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 1>people don't even know and I don't really care. You

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 1>talk about it a lot in your wraps. Yeah, so

0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, just use your imagination when you hear that.

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 1>But at that time, I was trying to figure out

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:58.399
<v Speaker 1>way because when my mom died, I was like, well,

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:00.400
<v Speaker 1>someone's got to be here from my daughter. If I

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:03.800
<v Speaker 1>go away, who is that going to be? My Mom's

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.879
<v Speaker 1>gone now? So shit, it's me now. So I got

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 1>to walk away from all that shit. And when I

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:12.280
<v Speaker 1>met Wiz, I was able to meet him and Taylor

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Gang and see the more the morale of the crew

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and see the tour of us. And they took me

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>on tour. I got to see what it looked like

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:21.360
<v Speaker 1>to go state to stay and perform. It made me

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>step up my performance. Gang. They brought me in and

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 1>they embraced. You know, the side of my life that

0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I love most is music. So I just text Biziness

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 1>mar like, I love you, bro, thank you because when

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I met you, you you gave me a spark I needed

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:36.799
<v Speaker 1>to keep making music, which is my passion, because other

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 1>than that, I might have just went dark in the street. Shit,

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I might not be here right now. So yeah, I mean,

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.239
<v Speaker 1>without getting into too many details, like, was there ever

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 1>a point in time where like the street ship almost

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:49.959
<v Speaker 1>ended up costing your freedom? Yeah, yeah, a big time.

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that a lot of that ship will be

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 1>told them in this series I'm doing right now, just

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:58.439
<v Speaker 1>announce the partnership with the creator of Snowfall. The writer,

0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:01.399
<v Speaker 1>director from dnnd's and producer of Game of Thrones. We're

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 1>doing we're doing a scripted crime series about all about

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.799
<v Speaker 1>pack shipping in Northern California's role in the week game,

0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and so a lot of them stories will be It's

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 1>based on true man, so a lot of them stories

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 1>will be in there. But yeah, definitely did bro. Yeah,

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy because if you think of like and obviously

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 1>like you're you know, Northern California was kind of like

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 1>the hub for everyone to go out there and get

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>their plug and then send packs to the Midwest, to

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:28.799
<v Speaker 1>the South, to just every it comes to that Granddaddy

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 1>purple on that og and that Bubba cushion, like just

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, even with the cookies and Gilado, I mean,

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Nora cal really changed the game. Especially look at like

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 1>what Humble County did before people knew it green Greenhouse

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 1>or outdoor was I mean, there's big margins, my boy,

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 1>especially on the outdoor shit. Yeah, it was almost like

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Cooke funny bro like, because if you think about, like,

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:50.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you have like some great light dep

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 1>or some great green greenhouse that's on the East coast,

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 1>it's loud at a certain point in time before people

0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:59.839
<v Speaker 1>knew what greenhouse was. I was dog walking people. Bro

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>margin game insane bro like. It was a nice time

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 1>and the game got changed. But yeah, it's different now,

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the margins. There was a period where people from the

0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:12.319
<v Speaker 1>South didn't know the difference between indoor and outdoor, let

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 1>alone indoor and greenhouse. They start figuring out out door

0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 1>because obviously it looks way different smells. Yeah, but the

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>good depths and the good greenhouse would be so good sometimes.

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's still going on, Yeah, but not to the

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:30.360
<v Speaker 1>same I'm sure in your heyday it was man forty

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:33.799
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred for a pound of greenhouse. Boy, it was

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.880
<v Speaker 1>big Yo, it's crazy you mentioned Humble. I just watched this.

0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:42.799
<v Speaker 1>Uh me and my wife watched this documentary on Hulu. No,

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's it's on the big Foot, the Sasquatch. Yeah, yeah,

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I forget what it's finding Sasquatch. I think that ship

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:51.760
<v Speaker 1>is crazy up there. There's a lot of untel stories

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and that's when we will who go with that series

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 1>is to tell Northern California's you know story. Did you

0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>ever get like into that world up in Humble County?

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 1>And absolutely, because that world is crazy man, Like, there's

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:04.760
<v Speaker 1>people who go up there and don't come back down. Yeah,

0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, Humboldts humbles a beautiful place. There's great people

0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 1>up there. There's a dark side to everywhere you go,

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 1>but Humbolts like almost there's it's almost like its own

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:15.480
<v Speaker 1>laws up there. Low key like, well, you get in

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the hills, it's a whole nother story, you know. I

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 1>can't wait. That's why I've been waiting though, because a

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of my stories are coming out in the series.

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>There's been some crazy give me, give me one crazy

0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:26.319
<v Speaker 1>story that that you could give us. Just just just

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 1>give me one, bro give me one. Well, as a

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:33.359
<v Speaker 1>trailer for the series, well, one story was, uh, I

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 1>was up there with the buyer and we went to

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 1>uh to go by maybe like one hundred oh g's

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 1>or something like that, and we drove up to like

0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 1>a mountain. So there's a gate on the bottom of

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the hill and my dude came down grabbed it bread.

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:48.319
<v Speaker 1>It was like, I'll be right back cool sitting there

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:51.239
<v Speaker 1>with this buyer and he drives up this hill and

0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:53.880
<v Speaker 1>we're chilling this kind of hot day and time just

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:56.800
<v Speaker 1>keeps going by. It's not coming back down. It's like, damn,

0:45:56.840 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 1>looking at my watch. I'm like, damn, what's up? Go

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 1>to my phone? Nervous. I'm like, fuck you lill nervous.

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 1>And the dude's chained smoking cigarettes. I'm with the buyers

0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 1>change smoking cigarettes. He's like, yo, go up there. I'm like,

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not fucking going up there. Brock talking about He's like,

0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:12.919
<v Speaker 1>go up there, Bro, you get my money, this dude,

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:15.439
<v Speaker 1>go up there. I'm like, man, I don't know what's

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 1>up there. I don't know how far it is. He's like,

0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna go up there, bro, He's like, it's been

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 1>about forty five minutes to do. Say He'll be all right,

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 1>back go up there. I'm like, I'm not going up there.

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:26.279
<v Speaker 1>Dude pulls out a gun, cocks it back, say brine,

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I am trying to go there, bro, but you need

0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:29.799
<v Speaker 1>to go up there. I'm like, fuck, dude, all right,

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 1>hop over the little shady fence. Start walking. I walked

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:34.279
<v Speaker 1>for like ten minutes, bro, and I'm looking up this

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:37.760
<v Speaker 1>broad and it's just not stopping. I'm like stripping sweat.

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I come back down, like, bro, I don't even see

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 1>an end to this trail. I'm not gonna go. I

0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 1>walked for ten minutes. Bro, I'm fucking sweating, like fuck,

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 1>it's hot as fuck. I don't know what to tell you.

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.680
<v Speaker 1>He's like, that motherfucker played us. That motherfucking drove up

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 1>the hill with my money and drove down and left.

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:54.560
<v Speaker 1>He's like, he played it. You. You fucking robbed me.

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:56.279
<v Speaker 1>He's on his gun. I'm like, bro, I did not.

0:46:56.440 --> 0:47:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Robbie starts honking his horn, honking his horn, starts ripping

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 1>my bro just breathe. We're gonna figure it out. It's

0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 1>all good. He's like, it's all good. It's all good, Bro,

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>it's all good. He's looking at me crazy, honking his

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 1>horn like this motherfucker's about to shoot me. For sure.

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to get shot. And then all of a sudden,

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:16.839
<v Speaker 1>my boy comes down that fucking hill. I'm looking at

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:19.080
<v Speaker 1>this dude. He's like, my bad bride to trim up

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:21.040
<v Speaker 1>a few more to make it the even hundred. I'm like, mo,

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 1>the fucker, dude, I started walking up that hill trying

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:25.880
<v Speaker 1>to find you. He was like, oh, dude, it's like

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 1>a mile and a half fucking drive. You wouldn't have

0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:30.719
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't have made up the hill, like maybe maybe

0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 1>if you would walk forever, you know, And I was like,

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:36.400
<v Speaker 1>damn God, damn bro. And the crazy thing about that

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 1>story was I took my little I took my little piece,

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. My boy took my little

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 1>issue from the side when he went up to the hill.

0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:44.840
<v Speaker 1>It gave me my bag. I gave it to a

0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 1>little pretty bitch to go ahead and dip off. I

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 1>hopped him. I hopped in a separate car to leave.

0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I was smoking a joint and we're driving and the

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 1>dude was so stressed out. Bro, Literally, I cannot make

0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:58.319
<v Speaker 1>this ship. We're leaving Humble County. There's like a little

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:04.759
<v Speaker 1>area by it's called uh right when you get into Mendo. Well,

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 1>we're pulling off and this jus pulled over. Bro, we

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 1>passed him. I'm sitting there smoking and I thought to

0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:13.360
<v Speaker 1>get paranoid for sec But I don't even have anything

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:15.560
<v Speaker 1>in the car but the weed that just took a couple.

0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:18.239
<v Speaker 1>The chick had all my little cut whatever I made,

0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:20.560
<v Speaker 1>she was already long gone, but they had this pool

0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 1>pulled over. Dude. He had a bad day. He had

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:25.759
<v Speaker 1>a very bad and he had everything on him. He

0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:28.320
<v Speaker 1>had a hundred pack on him and they pulled him over. Yeah,

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 1>did they end up? He had a bad day. I

0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:34.960
<v Speaker 1>never talked to him again, brother, I just ghosts. Well,

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 1>what's crazy is like that's what people don't know, Like

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:39.600
<v Speaker 1>in the weed game, like a lot of like if

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Middleman and ship is a great it's a great little hustle.

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:45.839
<v Speaker 1>It was good for me, you know back then. But

0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:47.760
<v Speaker 1>he just came with it, came with a lot of stress.

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think what happened to dude, man,

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Like he just he was from out of town. He

0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:56.320
<v Speaker 1>was anxious. He just got profile leaving that place. And

0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't even think cared about the hunding pack. I

0:48:58.120 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 1>don't think they took him to jail. They was looking

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 1>for money. The cops are there and want money sometimes, bro,

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:03.400
<v Speaker 1>just to shake you down because they know what they

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 1>know what you're doing. They probably took your ship, you

0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:08.879
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? So yeah, man, like the game

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:10.719
<v Speaker 1>is not pretty Bro. How much money did the guy

0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 1>go up the hill with hundred pack? I mean, fuck well,

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember what the prices were back then, Bro,

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:20.680
<v Speaker 1>A hundred pack O G. I gave him like a

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 1>like forty like forty two hundred and forty forty five

0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:28.960
<v Speaker 1>hundred each back then you know what I mean. It's

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:32.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of bread. It's a lot of bread. Yeah, yeah,

0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's us. Gonnahoot my ass, bro, I've seen

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:38.040
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0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:41.400
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<v Speaker 1>As far as like you know, during that period, I

0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:01.840
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's kind of like a golden era of

0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:04.160
<v Speaker 1>like a certain moment in the Weed game, like any

0:51:04.200 --> 0:51:06.239
<v Speaker 1>of your peers in that game also kind of level

0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:08.000
<v Speaker 1>up with you at the same time, and and and

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and are also kind of doing their thing. Yeah, good

0:51:10.680 --> 0:51:13.160
<v Speaker 1>amount of people. I love to see people from the

0:51:13.239 --> 0:51:15.879
<v Speaker 1>original market in you know, the new market right now,

0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:19.040
<v Speaker 1>like actually in the legalization market. So shout there when

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:21.719
<v Speaker 1>that's like a lot of people think that I beef

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:23.759
<v Speaker 1>people or people I beef with me. I think it's

0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:26.760
<v Speaker 1>like a it's a very small community. It's a big business,

0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:29.240
<v Speaker 1>but a very small community. And I think that everyone

0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:32.399
<v Speaker 1>that's killing it right now, I salute them. I congratulate them.

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:35.720
<v Speaker 1>They made it past like a very weird, gray, dangerous

0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:39.000
<v Speaker 1>area and now they're in like a new area but era.

0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:41.800
<v Speaker 1>But I think this is like timeless and it's history,

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:43.480
<v Speaker 1>and being a part of history is type Do you

0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:47.719
<v Speaker 1>ever find it like frustrating that you can't be you know,

0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to certain artists, uh, some from your hometown

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:55.880
<v Speaker 1>that are kind of like nonchalantly feel like there's some

0:51:55.960 --> 0:52:00.600
<v Speaker 1>hate or some weirdo shit towards you. Is it hard

0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:02.920
<v Speaker 1>to be burner and like not being like like you

0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:07.040
<v Speaker 1>can't be everything to everybody, right, and especially when it

0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:09.680
<v Speaker 1>comes to like that shit, like it is it like

0:52:09.760 --> 0:52:12.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of like because you keep a small circle around you,

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:15.880
<v Speaker 1>my bubble is super small, it's super tight. It's super small.

0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:17.880
<v Speaker 1>It's been that way for a long time. Like is

0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 1>that on purpose because of that kind of shit? Because

0:52:20.080 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody wants access to you, bro, Yeah, you know, access

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 1>is denied right now, bro, like limited access for sure,

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:29.239
<v Speaker 1>because energy is everything, time is everything, life is short.

0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:30.800
<v Speaker 1>You gotta enjoy this shit. Why you can? You know

0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:32.640
<v Speaker 1>what I mean? You never know what could happen, whether

0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:35.839
<v Speaker 1>it be cancer, fucking COVID, or fucking give by car,

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:39.040
<v Speaker 1>So I keep my circle tight. Do people Are people

0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:41.239
<v Speaker 1>mad about it? Maybe I just don't give a fuck.

0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Like there's only one opinion I care about. It's my daughter's,

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, and my wife's, and I

0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:50.160
<v Speaker 1>really focus on my daughter's opinion. I really care what

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:53.839
<v Speaker 1>she thinks about me. Anyone else fuck them straight up.

0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I ain't worried about it. Are you tapping with I

0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:58.880
<v Speaker 1>know you got caps, which is like more of like

0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>a mushroom. Yeah, but but are you gonna eventually with

0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the legalization of shrooms? Hell yeah, That's why we set

0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 1>it up already, Like we're doing what we can do legally.

0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 1>But I mean a lot of my partners on the

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:13.719
<v Speaker 1>cannabis side are mushroom enthusiasts, and they know a lot

0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:15.719
<v Speaker 1>about mushrooms and they're fired up on it, and so

0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 1>we're just trying to make sure we're in position for

0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:20.600
<v Speaker 1>when it comes. We're gonna that's a whole other side

0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:22.160
<v Speaker 1>of the business. Yeah, I feel like that's like the

0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:24.759
<v Speaker 1>future low Key. I just saw money Man post some

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:27.400
<v Speaker 1>ship on Twitter about shrooms like he's like, Yo, Perks

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:31.319
<v Speaker 1>and Zan's are dead wrapping. If anyone's listening to this

0:53:31.400 --> 0:53:35.759
<v Speaker 1>man like pills coke O, it's just super dangerous. Man. Like,

0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:38.480
<v Speaker 1>the fentanyl problem right now is real. I feel like

0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 1>there's a reason why there's a lot of fentanyl out

0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:42.400
<v Speaker 1>here in the streets, and I think that people are

0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:45.880
<v Speaker 1>purposely flooding America a fentanyl for people to harm themselves.

0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Put the fucking Lean down. It's just disgusting. I can't

0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:50.960
<v Speaker 1>believe people are still sitting Lean every Did you ever

0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 1>go through an ara with Lean? Fuck? No, look at

0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:55.440
<v Speaker 1>my I'm mys are clear as broad day, Like right now,

0:53:55.440 --> 0:53:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm into the bag right now, you know. I mean

0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I smoke button, that's it. But you know, Lean is

0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:04.759
<v Speaker 1>all bad, bro. I'm seeing people fucking their whole lives

0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:07.719
<v Speaker 1>are fucking roomed from this shit. I don't even understand, bro. Yeah, no,

0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:11.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's crazy because, like you said, the fentanyl ship,

0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Fentanyl's like it's like low Key is

0:54:15.000 --> 0:54:17.279
<v Speaker 1>big of an epidemic as COVID. Just people ain't talking

0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:19.759
<v Speaker 1>about it like that because it's out there. You don't

0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:22.279
<v Speaker 1>know what you're getting on, how pure it is, and

0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:25.080
<v Speaker 1>fentanyl's killing a lot of people. It was. I don't

0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:27.160
<v Speaker 1>know if you saw like in Venice, there was like

0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:29.520
<v Speaker 1>a house with like four comedians. They left the comedy

0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:33.200
<v Speaker 1>show and three out of four died doing coke. But

0:54:34.400 --> 0:54:35.880
<v Speaker 1>you can't push it in your body right now if

0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:37.200
<v Speaker 1>you don't know where it's coming from. You know what

0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:39.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, alternative plant medicine. Man, stick with the weeds,

0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:42.120
<v Speaker 1>stick with the shroom, stick with you know, just stick

0:54:42.160 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 1>with shit that's natural. Don't don't touch that ship. Yeah,

0:54:44.560 --> 0:54:46.759
<v Speaker 1>and for people who don't know too like we like

0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:49.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, because a lot of the issue with getting

0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:51.920
<v Speaker 1>off that ship is withdraws and ship. But you fucking

0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:57.359
<v Speaker 1>dab away those withdraws straight up, like straight up, man,

0:54:58.400 --> 0:55:01.359
<v Speaker 1>put the drugs down. Uh, you're you have a lot

0:55:01.400 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 1>of interest in the alien shit. We did some shit

0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:06.319
<v Speaker 1>on Clubhouse. We had like a little alien room on

0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Clubhouse or in the pandemic. But like you also kind

0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:12.000
<v Speaker 1>of have you know, you've got some conspiracies that you're

0:55:12.040 --> 0:55:15.040
<v Speaker 1>tapped in with but what you know, I think that,

0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:19.840
<v Speaker 1>like with the Obama admitting UFOs are real, I just

0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:23.280
<v Speaker 1>feel like, because the world's so crazy right now because

0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:26.040
<v Speaker 1>of Trump, because all COVID, because all this wild shit,

0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:29.960
<v Speaker 1>they're like throwing shit out right now because they know

0:55:30.040 --> 0:55:31.920
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to be the main story. They have

0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:33.839
<v Speaker 1>to just cover the tracks. They're letting it come out

0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:36.319
<v Speaker 1>and just get you know, overwhelmed with other ship. Yeah,

0:55:36.320 --> 0:55:38.279
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like I feel like they're they're getting

0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:41.600
<v Speaker 1>everyone ready for some shit low key. I mean, if

0:55:41.640 --> 0:55:44.680
<v Speaker 1>we think that our government hasn't been to another planet yet,

0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:46.960
<v Speaker 1>we're probably pretty crazy. If you ever go outside at

0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:49.160
<v Speaker 1>night and just look up, look up there, and if

0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:51.160
<v Speaker 1>you're in a clear area, like when I was in Montana,

0:55:51.200 --> 0:55:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I would go on my boat at nighttime, midnight, one

0:55:53.640 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 1>o'clock in the morning, float out to Middle Lake with

0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 1>no lights and just lay there and you see all

0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:01.160
<v Speaker 1>these fucking stars and planets. You don't think there's some

0:56:01.200 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 1>other ship up there, You're fucking lost. There's a hell

0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:06.839
<v Speaker 1>other ship up there. And I think the I think

0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Earth has just been burnt out, it's overpopulated. There's a

0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:11.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of weird shit going on. There's a lot of

0:56:13.280 --> 0:56:15.279
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of control issues, and people want to

0:56:15.280 --> 0:56:17.320
<v Speaker 1>be in power, Other countries want to be in power.

0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I definitely feel like there's other other plans out there

0:56:20.160 --> 0:56:22.360
<v Speaker 1>that we've been to or that we can go to.

0:56:22.640 --> 0:56:26.160
<v Speaker 1>And that's why you see Bezos. I was gonna say,

0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:29.160
<v Speaker 1>that's why I think you see these billionaires. They're gonna

0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:31.480
<v Speaker 1>be the first people to leave, because I honestly feel

0:56:31.520 --> 0:56:34.840
<v Speaker 1>like the government's suppressed how easy it really might be

0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:36.520
<v Speaker 1>to get up there right Like they're just telling you

0:56:36.600 --> 0:56:38.400
<v Speaker 1>it's not possible. You gotta get this big rock and

0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:40.680
<v Speaker 1>do this, And then how the fuck do we know

0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:42.920
<v Speaker 1>that you look at you look at ship, and they say,

0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:45.560
<v Speaker 1>it's this far it takes. That might all might all

0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:47.080
<v Speaker 1>be some bullshit. You might be able to get in

0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:49.560
<v Speaker 1>something and just get up. So I don't know, but

0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:52.839
<v Speaker 1>I definitely know there's more people. There's more there's more

0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:55.160
<v Speaker 1>species out there than just us. We're not we're not

0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:58.439
<v Speaker 1>like the dominant species. We've been put here by something else.

0:56:58.719 --> 0:57:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Our body is designed like a fucking computer. DNA's design

0:57:02.640 --> 0:57:05.920
<v Speaker 1>like a fucking computer. It's not we didn't. We didn't

0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:09.279
<v Speaker 1>just Germans didn't just fucking calculating design us like we

0:57:09.280 --> 0:57:12.239
<v Speaker 1>were designed on purpose. So that's my thoughts. Do you

0:57:12.760 --> 0:57:17.400
<v Speaker 1>have you ever had a UFO experience where you seen something? Yeah, yeah,

0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I had a in Vegas. I was in Vegas randomly

0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:26.640
<v Speaker 1>at Molly Male's house. Yeah, legendary home. A lot of

0:57:26.640 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of great stuff happened over there. But yeah, no,

0:57:28.640 --> 0:57:32.120
<v Speaker 1>it's it's crazy because when I was growing up, my

0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:37.680
<v Speaker 1>mom's uncle was like a og at NASA, og at NASA.

0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:40.880
<v Speaker 1>So she went to Maryland to visit her her aunt

0:57:40.960 --> 0:57:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and her aunt's husband who worked at NASA at the time.

0:57:43.400 --> 0:57:46.000
<v Speaker 1>His name was Doc, and my mom asked him if

0:57:46.040 --> 0:57:49.640
<v Speaker 1>aliens are real, and he said it he couldn't tell her,

0:57:50.280 --> 0:57:52.600
<v Speaker 1>But if people knew what was in the ocean, a

0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:54.959
<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't want to kill themselves. Yeah no, dude,

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's just stuck with me. One of my

0:57:58.000 --> 0:58:00.760
<v Speaker 1>friends when I was growing up, his grandpa was the

0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:05.720
<v Speaker 1>super super decorated war veteran and like very straight edge,

0:58:05.920 --> 0:58:09.920
<v Speaker 1>very square like super like just legit. And when he

0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:14.320
<v Speaker 1>was dying, he told my best friend man, just I

0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:17.880
<v Speaker 1>had to keep this to my deathbed, Bud, there's definitely

0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:20.880
<v Speaker 1>aliens out there. I've definitely seen things and you should

0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:22.479
<v Speaker 1>know we're not alone and I just wanted to share

0:58:22.480 --> 0:58:24.200
<v Speaker 1>it with you and that should just stuck with me too.

0:58:24.560 --> 0:58:26.560
<v Speaker 1>But you guy, it's got to be realistic. Man, there's

0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:28.680
<v Speaker 1>no way we're the only people out here. And I've

0:58:28.680 --> 0:58:31.920
<v Speaker 1>been even thinking, like I've been really reading on lately,

0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:34.600
<v Speaker 1>like life after death, like maybe this is just one

0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:37.680
<v Speaker 1>big audition for like what happens next, Like look at

0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:40.800
<v Speaker 1>my dogs sometimes, like this motherfucker's been here before. He

0:58:41.360 --> 0:58:43.600
<v Speaker 1>was he's been here before, And I start geeking out

0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:45.560
<v Speaker 1>on that, and I really I'm really into like what

0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:48.000
<v Speaker 1>happens when you die? Type shit? Right now? Are you like,

0:58:48.520 --> 0:58:51.840
<v Speaker 1>would you consider yourself religious? Nah? Because I'm not at

0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:55.200
<v Speaker 1>all either. I'm borderline atheists. I'm borderline I don't know.

0:58:55.280 --> 0:58:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I get in trouble a lot when

0:58:57.360 --> 0:58:59.560
<v Speaker 1>people ask me about religion. But I'll be straightforward. I

0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:01.840
<v Speaker 1>believe that we were put here by something. If you

0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:05.439
<v Speaker 1>look at religion, right, every single religion, whether it be

0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:08.240
<v Speaker 1>whatever country, whatever religion it is, they all say that

0:59:08.280 --> 0:59:11.760
<v Speaker 1>someone came from above, came down, taught them, and went

0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:16.480
<v Speaker 1>back up. No fucking brainer. Yeah, I've always kind of been.

0:59:17.200 --> 0:59:18.720
<v Speaker 1>A lot of that shit is man made. They all

0:59:18.760 --> 0:59:20.760
<v Speaker 1>got the same themes for the most part. Some are

0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:23.520
<v Speaker 1>a little feel like they all experienced the same thing.

0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Someone came from above, taught them and went back up.

0:59:27.280 --> 0:59:31.000
<v Speaker 1>What does that mean? I mean even like the hieroglyphics,

0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:34.200
<v Speaker 1>there's some wild hieroglyphics where it's like motherfuckers were bird,

0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:36.920
<v Speaker 1>humans and all kinds of shit. So I like to

0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:38.960
<v Speaker 1>get high, bro, When my day ins I have like

0:59:39.000 --> 0:59:41.680
<v Speaker 1>an eighteen hour, nineteen hour workday, whatever fuck it is,

0:59:41.720 --> 0:59:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I get home for the last few hours of my day,

0:59:44.360 --> 0:59:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I just get high and I google as much as

0:59:46.800 --> 0:59:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I can. You just did you die? You dive down

0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:52.240
<v Speaker 1>some YouTube rabbit holes big time, especially in the last

0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:55.080
<v Speaker 1>two years. Yeah, because you've had time. I got time.

0:59:55.360 --> 0:59:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I got time. But besides smoking and you know, being

0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:04.160
<v Speaker 1>a you know, fucking entrepreneur, fucking boss. Uh, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you what are your you know, family life aside? What

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<v Speaker 1>are you're like? You know, what's a good day for

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<v Speaker 1>you hobby wise? Like if you had to wake up

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<v Speaker 1>and just do whatever you wanted to do. You know,

1:00:14.040 --> 1:00:17.360
<v Speaker 1>what are your hobbies? Man? Shit? Hobbies? Right now is

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<v Speaker 1>just the film stuff which is still work. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>did a comedy with a bass master shout to Homie D.

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<v Speaker 1>We just freesed out that and we're about to put

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<v Speaker 1>that out soon. I got a movie called Splash City,

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<v Speaker 1>all about the bibbing in the Bay Area. I really

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<v Speaker 1>want to bring to life, like northern California crime stories

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<v Speaker 1>and like just northern California is on tap. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>you really look at a lot of crime films or

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<v Speaker 1>movies in general based on LA especially on a commercial

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<v Speaker 1>worldwide level. Yeah, there's nothing out the Bay and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that's my job, right. So my hobby now

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<v Speaker 1>is just developing content barrier base like and it's fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not really a hobby. I guess it's like work,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's what I like to do. Yeah, So the

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<v Speaker 1>show that you're developing with the Snowfall people, that's like

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal. It's a really big deal. That's like

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<v Speaker 1>that's not like some like independent like rap shit. Nah.

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<v Speaker 1>But See, the thing is, like I also understand that

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<v Speaker 1>that we're gonna raise like seventy to eighty million to

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<v Speaker 1>do that project and it's gonna take time. So in

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<v Speaker 1>between that, while developing that, I'm trying to not gout

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<v Speaker 1>all of shit learned the game. Yeah, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do like an independent like the Splash City. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>me and a group called Four Ways Entertainment. They just

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<v Speaker 1>want to They want a Latin film festival for the

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<v Speaker 1>movie called Slipping in the Darkness. I just I appreciate

1:01:30.800 --> 1:01:33.320
<v Speaker 1>their hustle, their work ethic. I locked in with them, like,

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<v Speaker 1>come to the bay, let me write this movie. Let

1:01:35.600 --> 1:01:38.800
<v Speaker 1>me directed with you. You guys execute it well, edited together,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll put it out so that that way, while

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<v Speaker 1>I'm deloving this series, people start getting a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>my style when it comes to film. Shit, everyone's got

1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:47.880
<v Speaker 1>their own style. You gotta score Sazy you got you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Spike Lee, you all the shit. Rob Zombie, he was

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<v Speaker 1>an artist, He got his own style, got his own style. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My style is gritty, It's real gritty. I see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these crime series on TV right now. Lot

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<v Speaker 1>them are a little too pretty for me. Too pretty,

1:02:01.320 --> 1:02:04.880
<v Speaker 1>they're too produced. Like let's bring some edgy shit back,

1:02:05.000 --> 1:02:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Like Men's Society was so sick, dude. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>raw as fuck, Like we need that ship back, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of this shit's too pretty, bro. I think The

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<v Speaker 1>last show that really did that for me was The Wire.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wire was great. I think the last show that

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<v Speaker 1>did it for me was Breaking Bad, and Breaking Bad

1:02:20.040 --> 1:02:22.960
<v Speaker 1>was ross. Fuck. It was good. It was produced, but

1:02:23.040 --> 1:02:25.640
<v Speaker 1>it was good. It felt real. That's real. Do you

1:02:25.680 --> 1:02:31.720
<v Speaker 1>watch better call Saul? Solid solid? But a perfect day

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<v Speaker 1>for me would be wake up at six am, make

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<v Speaker 1>my green juice or drinking green juice, work out, chill

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<v Speaker 1>with the dogs, play on my phone till my shit

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<v Speaker 1>starts bringing, get some work done, go to my daughter's

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<v Speaker 1>volleyball game, watch her make some dinner for the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, watch a good couple of crime movies, and

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<v Speaker 1>relax like that'd be my perfect day, not these hectic

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<v Speaker 1>days where it's just back to about calls like until

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<v Speaker 1>I go to bed. Those days hurt, Like, yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>other day I had a day, bro, Like I started

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<v Speaker 1>first call six thirty am. I got off at eleven pm,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just felt like, what the fuck am I doing? Bro?

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<v Speaker 1>You know my spread then there's too much going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I just try to breathe and doting a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>work out, doting a chance to chill with the fan.

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<v Speaker 1>But the man is what it is. We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>those kind of days. Man, you know, you're kind of

1:03:20.400 --> 1:03:22.560
<v Speaker 1>you got like you're inside man, like you probably know

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<v Speaker 1>more than most people is. They're like, like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think the realistic chances are of weed coming off

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<v Speaker 1>of the federal federal drug list? I should I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say that it's gonna happen, because it'd be a

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<v Speaker 1>great day for me, But I don't see it happening

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<v Speaker 1>anytime soon. You don't think it's gonna happen because you

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<v Speaker 1>think it because at the end of the day, if

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<v Speaker 1>New York is finally on, you think it's just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to be a state by state thing. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be gray for a long time. I think the Feds

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<v Speaker 1>and the government wanted to figure out how to milk

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<v Speaker 1>every single part of the business. And until they figure

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<v Speaker 1>that out, they're not gonna do it. But Sleepy jo

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<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna let that shit happen. Bro, That boy's tired

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<v Speaker 1>of hell. You know, he's turning this trying to two

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<v Speaker 1>point out right now. I'm not gonna lie. I voted

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<v Speaker 1>for Joe Biden, Yeah, but man, I didn't vote this time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was less than two evils for me. It was

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<v Speaker 1>damned if you do. Damned if you don't. Damn Sleepy

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<v Speaker 1>Joe is fucking fucking ship up right now, the entire

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<v Speaker 1>bastards on the war path. But you know, it is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. I don't see his administration legalizing weeding.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's crazy is they promised it. They promised it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's their whole market that they was talking about, that

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<v Speaker 1>ship and they ain't doing nothing. Yeah, no, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's bad, man. I don't know, you know what, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, damned if you do, Damned if you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>That boy a cup of coffee, man, Yeah, man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>have you guys ever liked done any like you know

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<v Speaker 1>ship When we think of a cigarette companies do lobbyst ship?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you guys ever done some lobby oft shiit? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't trust that ship. Yeah, I'm gonna lobby myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it weird though, because now all these corporate motherfuckers

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<v Speaker 1>are like coming into the weed game, trying to buy

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<v Speaker 1>out these companies, and and I feel like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fucking it up low key, Like I've talked to a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of them. I'm not doing that. If I ever exit, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>if I ever exit, if there's ever a liquidity event

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<v Speaker 1>for me. They understand there's like major major, major, major

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<v Speaker 1>major protection of the brain and involved, like no one's

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<v Speaker 1>down to do that. My goal is to pass this

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<v Speaker 1>shit to my daughter, To be honest with you, I

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<v Speaker 1>tease her all the time, you're about to be a

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<v Speaker 1>little CEO. You better learn the game. And she already

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<v Speaker 1>has a clothing line. Yeah, that's why I did that.

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<v Speaker 1>She understands that's big. I never he knows. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really promote shit like that because I'm making her and

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<v Speaker 1>make her figure out. You got to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>How's it doing? It does cool? It could do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot better, but and I'm sure if I post it

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<v Speaker 1>every day and every drop, they probably do way better.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want her to learn the struggles. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to just give her everything. She's got to work

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<v Speaker 1>for it. But like me and her bond by like

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<v Speaker 1>designs and like we can flip a jacket like this,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can do like this, or you can And

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<v Speaker 1>she's really proud of her shit, and she wears it

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<v Speaker 1>to school and I couldn't be more proud of her.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wanted to learn that shit hands on. You

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<v Speaker 1>know how was settling down for you? Because you know

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<v Speaker 1>you you had your days. I was a wild boy.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a wild boy. I was a wild boy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a wild boy. Settling down for me was good, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like, you know the you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>me too, Like I was a wild boy. For sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wild and I don't even know I was wild.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what though, like it feels so much

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<v Speaker 1>better than not having to deal with that shit, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know how it should be multiple girls and phones

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<v Speaker 1>and hiding and this. I can't even think about doing

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<v Speaker 1>that right now. Yeah, I think too, like once you've

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<v Speaker 1>done everything, it's like, man, you like, there's almost only

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<v Speaker 1>so much of that shit you could do. I did

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<v Speaker 1>it all. I was a bartender before any of the shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that when I was working at the Hempston.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a bartender at eighteen. You have to understand

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<v Speaker 1>I did it all. I did it all right. It

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<v Speaker 1>was amazing. I was young and my hair was slicked

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<v Speaker 1>back of the skinny. Was incredible. But I think that

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<v Speaker 1>settling down leveled up my business, yeah for sure, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it took me from like hood rich to in a

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<v Speaker 1>great place straight up. Yeah. I feel like since I

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<v Speaker 1>got married to my wife, everything is improved. Shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to our wives. Shout to the wife, because if I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't if I wasn't able to go to like when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here working or if I'm traveling, if I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that my household was good, and then my daughter

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<v Speaker 1>was straight when she's at my house. Because my daughter's

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<v Speaker 1>been in the household with my wife now for like

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<v Speaker 1>five days and she hasn't even went back to her

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<v Speaker 1>mom's house, you know. So it's it's perfect because I

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<v Speaker 1>know I have a solid household and that ship does

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<v Speaker 1>numbers for your mentally. Yeah, when you're gone, you know

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<v Speaker 1>everything's handled. Yeah. Yeah, Now the same thing with my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yo, I could be in Miami for a

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<v Speaker 1>whole week and I know I don't got to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I get yelled at for not cleaning now

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<v Speaker 1>and that, you know, here and then, but at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, settling down made me like a

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<v Speaker 1>very successful business guy. I see a lot of my

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<v Speaker 1>friends caught up with hell of girls and shit, that's

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<v Speaker 1>shit's ass backwards. If you want to get to the bag,

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<v Speaker 1>have a wife. Hey, that's a bar. If you want

1:07:45.720 --> 1:07:47.440
<v Speaker 1>to get to the bag, have a wife straight up

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<v Speaker 1>and happy wife, happy life. Fucking facts, fucking facts. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you considered. I know you you mentioned Montana earlier, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you consider like switching your primary residency out of California, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just don't know where I would go. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in my position because you have

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<v Speaker 1>to think, like if I stole my business with the

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<v Speaker 1>new body and administration's laws, like I probably have to

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<v Speaker 1>give sixty eight percent. I think it's sixty eight percent

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<v Speaker 1>federal something crazy. I don't know. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>would end up keeping like fifteen percent of my business profits,

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<v Speaker 1>right like, So, I don't know. I can't do Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>Miami is too humid humid. Vegas is kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>too dry for me Vegas though, those are the two

1:08:30.120 --> 1:08:32.559
<v Speaker 1>like places where you stay. Tax Yeah, you could really

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<v Speaker 1>save money. And if you really wanted to be a savage,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go to Puerto Rico. It's no federal tax.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fucking wild. So you can get one hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar check, go to Puerto Rico, lived there for three years,

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<v Speaker 1>and all that money's yours. I think that's uh, Logan

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<v Speaker 1>Paul just relocated to Puerto Rico, King did I But

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<v Speaker 1>the way I look at like this, bro, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to be where I want to be. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to go hide somewhere for my years. I just

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas bad. You know, I used to live in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is cool. It's hot, though, bros. Dry

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you lived in Arizona. I did. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go back. Yeah, it's too hot, it is

1:09:07.840 --> 1:09:10.880
<v Speaker 1>so hot. I'm a cool player, man. Yeah. Yeah. How

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<v Speaker 1>how many years were you in Easy? I think on

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<v Speaker 1>and off for like five years. And that was because

1:09:15.240 --> 1:09:17.160
<v Speaker 1>your mom was out there. Yeah, my dad was supposed

1:09:17.200 --> 1:09:19.160
<v Speaker 1>to open a restaurant out there, so and there was

1:09:19.400 --> 1:09:21.960
<v Speaker 1>cheap housing and so we went to a move over there,

1:09:22.000 --> 1:09:23.760
<v Speaker 1>and then my pops got caught up with some shit,

1:09:23.880 --> 1:09:25.960
<v Speaker 1>cheating and whatnot. So we stayed in California and my

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<v Speaker 1>mom stayed there. And I just bounced back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, what part of of asy were you in

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<v Speaker 1>Chandler or you were in the Chandler. People don't know, man,

1:09:34.360 --> 1:09:37.599
<v Speaker 1>Chandler ain't none sweet, certain parts of Chandler and none sweet. Man,

1:09:38.120 --> 1:09:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Come on, Chandler. Arizona is really a wild place. It is.

1:09:42.360 --> 1:09:45.080
<v Speaker 1>People don't believe me. I'm like, listen, guys, Arizona is different.

1:09:45.120 --> 1:09:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Everyone has a gun. I mean I was selling acid

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<v Speaker 1>in the sixth grade in Arizona. Wow, a bitch put

1:09:52.760 --> 1:09:54.800
<v Speaker 1>a pinky nail out and had me hit crystal meth

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<v Speaker 1>in class. In seventh grade in class in Chandler, I

1:09:58.160 --> 1:10:01.240
<v Speaker 1>thought it was coke. It was fucking crystal. Arizona's turned up.

1:10:02.360 --> 1:10:03.840
<v Speaker 1>So he was up for two days. So you did

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<v Speaker 1>math in seventh grade on accident? You did math. She

1:10:07.439 --> 1:10:09.639
<v Speaker 1>was such a pretty bit. She had long ass curly hair,

1:10:09.760 --> 1:10:12.599
<v Speaker 1>big ass earrings. Joy. She was a cartail baby for show.

1:10:13.320 --> 1:10:15.760
<v Speaker 1>She had this long ass nails. Shit, e look at

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<v Speaker 1>this sh take a little month. I'm like, oh shit,

1:10:18.640 --> 1:10:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I started felling. I'm like, oh shit, was that this

1:10:20.439 --> 1:10:23.000
<v Speaker 1>ship burns? That was math? I'm like, oh fuck, what

1:10:23.040 --> 1:10:25.320
<v Speaker 1>the fuck? I was on one for two days. I

1:10:25.400 --> 1:10:27.680
<v Speaker 1>was fucked up, dude, it was fucked up. Did you

1:10:27.720 --> 1:10:29.920
<v Speaker 1>ever go through it? You know, obviously outside of just

1:10:29.920 --> 1:10:31.760
<v Speaker 1>experimenting with drugs, you ever go through like a time

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<v Speaker 1>where you were like doing coke on a regular basis.

1:10:33.920 --> 1:10:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I was cocing for a while. Yeah, what years? I

1:10:37.400 --> 1:10:39.760
<v Speaker 1>was bartending bro Yeah, because I'm said I did it

1:10:39.800 --> 1:10:44.640
<v Speaker 1>all doing eighteen, like eighteen, like twenty twenty one or

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three. I was just you were wild. I was

1:10:47.680 --> 1:10:53.360
<v Speaker 1>doing coke, Molly, now molly, just coke because Friday night

1:10:53.560 --> 1:10:58.280
<v Speaker 1>was Friday night was hip hop, Saturday night was techno,

1:10:58.479 --> 1:11:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and then Sunday night was salsa, and all the fucking

1:11:01.000 --> 1:11:03.479
<v Speaker 1>Cubans and Columbians would come and they all found out

1:11:03.479 --> 1:11:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I was only eighteen nineteen. I was fucking all the bitches.

1:11:07.479 --> 1:11:09.640
<v Speaker 1>They kept giving me bumps, key shots, give me like

1:11:09.680 --> 1:11:11.679
<v Speaker 1>eight balls while I was working. It was just part

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<v Speaker 1>of the culture. And the bartender lifestyle is very shady,

1:11:14.960 --> 1:11:18.760
<v Speaker 1>very dirty lifestyles. Just coke, coke, coke, liquor. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was finally one day, I was like, I can't do

1:11:20.439 --> 1:11:22.439
<v Speaker 1>this shit. No mom over this shit, dude. I almost

1:11:22.439 --> 1:11:24.160
<v Speaker 1>odd at Reggae in the River. That's what it was.

1:11:24.640 --> 1:11:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, that's why I stopped doing coke. Reagaan the River.

1:11:28.240 --> 1:11:30.599
<v Speaker 1>What is that? It's a festival in northern California where

1:11:30.600 --> 1:11:32.880
<v Speaker 1>it's on the river. It's hot as hell. I was

1:11:32.880 --> 1:11:35.320
<v Speaker 1>on coke and gray oos Gray Goose for three days.

1:11:35.560 --> 1:11:37.559
<v Speaker 1>I turned pale and I dropped and I woke up

1:11:37.560 --> 1:11:39.800
<v Speaker 1>at the medics and I yo, dude, you gotta you

1:11:39.800 --> 1:11:41.439
<v Speaker 1>gotta just chill it out a little bit. And I

1:11:41.439 --> 1:11:43.880
<v Speaker 1>remember I went home to my chick's house and I

1:11:43.920 --> 1:11:45.599
<v Speaker 1>did a bump and my heart started doing the same

1:11:45.680 --> 1:11:47.120
<v Speaker 1>thing it did when I fainted. I was all right,

1:11:47.160 --> 1:11:49.000
<v Speaker 1>that's it, I'm done. I don't want to die. That

1:11:49.120 --> 1:11:51.200
<v Speaker 1>was it over. I was about to have a baby, too,

1:11:51.800 --> 1:11:55.160
<v Speaker 1>So it was a wrap. Yeah. Never, never. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I don't drink to this day though, because and

1:11:57.479 --> 1:11:59.640
<v Speaker 1>that's why I don't drink, because when I drink, the

1:12:00.000 --> 1:12:03.320
<v Speaker 1>domination of cocaine and alcohols. Yeah, it's a great one.

1:12:04.320 --> 1:12:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I've never done cocaine, but I know that the people

1:12:06.840 --> 1:12:08.679
<v Speaker 1>who I know, who I'm still close with, that's their

1:12:08.720 --> 1:12:10.599
<v Speaker 1>thing is they get drunk and they do coke. Yeah,

1:12:10.640 --> 1:12:13.559
<v Speaker 1>because you could just keep going. Yeah, but I'm glad

1:12:13.600 --> 1:12:16.519
<v Speaker 1>I stopped that shit. Hell on, it's been what Janelle

1:12:16.640 --> 1:12:20.800
<v Speaker 1>is fourteen, It's been fifteen years since I touched or alcohol. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>so you haven't drink in fifteen years. I've maybe had

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<v Speaker 1>like a couple of ships or maybe with wiz Ure

1:12:25.160 --> 1:12:26.960
<v Speaker 1>to like one or two shots. But I don't drink.

1:12:27.040 --> 1:12:29.479
<v Speaker 1>Drink now, I hen'll know. Yeah, no, yeah, no, you're right,

1:12:29.520 --> 1:12:31.639
<v Speaker 1>because I've seen you like at Dre's and like you're

1:12:31.680 --> 1:12:36.120
<v Speaker 1>just just there I'm smoking. Yeah, yeah, alcohol is like

1:12:36.320 --> 1:12:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not an alcoholic, but I understand, like I like,

1:12:39.960 --> 1:12:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I like the social lubricin of like you know, if

1:12:42.160 --> 1:12:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I go out just having some shots and I never

1:12:46.040 --> 1:12:48.000
<v Speaker 1>dealt with I never dealt with doing cocaine. I'm never glad.

1:12:48.000 --> 1:12:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't drink. Man like Whiz is the only way

1:12:49.760 --> 1:12:51.679
<v Speaker 1>that compression me to drink is we laugh hell hard.

1:12:51.720 --> 1:12:53.960
<v Speaker 1>But my version of drinking is like two or three shots.

1:12:53.960 --> 1:12:56.439
<v Speaker 1>That's it. Like you take some of this gin and lemonade, yeah,

1:12:56.560 --> 1:12:58.240
<v Speaker 1>or just some of this is queen, just take this

1:12:58.400 --> 1:13:01.840
<v Speaker 1>gin straight. Yeah. I don't understand that about Whiz is

1:13:01.880 --> 1:13:07.080
<v Speaker 1>that they like Jen is disgusting by itself. He did

1:13:07.920 --> 1:13:11.040
<v Speaker 1>bombay and lemonade. That's a good mixed drink, but by itself,

1:13:11.080 --> 1:13:14.840
<v Speaker 1>it's like drinking gasoline. Bro. Fuck that it's it's it's

1:13:14.880 --> 1:13:16.720
<v Speaker 1>it's horrible. Was there ever a point in time where

1:13:16.720 --> 1:13:18.559
<v Speaker 1>you had an opportunity to maybe do something on the

1:13:18.560 --> 1:13:20.320
<v Speaker 1>major label side where you just kind of kept kept

1:13:20.360 --> 1:13:21.920
<v Speaker 1>it moving because I know you know you've been you've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing the distro with Empires, since I really feel

1:13:24.439 --> 1:13:28.240
<v Speaker 1>like since Empire was ever even a thing. Fuck major labels, Dude,

1:13:28.280 --> 1:13:30.320
<v Speaker 1>they never understood me. They never wanted to take the

1:13:30.360 --> 1:13:32.799
<v Speaker 1>time to understand me. It's probably their biggest mistake because

1:13:33.520 --> 1:13:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean they probably would have had a piece of

1:13:34.920 --> 1:13:37.920
<v Speaker 1>everything I'm doing now. So I sat down with a

1:13:37.920 --> 1:13:40.880
<v Speaker 1>couple and they just did not understand me. They never did.

1:13:41.560 --> 1:13:44.360
<v Speaker 1>How early on were did you link with Ghazi for

1:13:44.760 --> 1:13:46.920
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six? Two thousand and five or six?

1:13:47.120 --> 1:13:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Was that when he was rapping m Now he was

1:13:49.800 --> 1:13:53.679
<v Speaker 1>at Ingrows Okay, yeah, yeah, so he left INgrooves started Empire,

1:13:53.920 --> 1:13:56.080
<v Speaker 1>and so from the rip where you just doing distro

1:13:56.160 --> 1:13:58.040
<v Speaker 1>through his company, now was the Ingrous And one day

1:13:58.040 --> 1:13:59.720
<v Speaker 1>he told me, Yo, I moved the catalog over to

1:13:59.720 --> 1:14:01.599
<v Speaker 1>my new company. I'm like, what the fuck are you

1:14:01.640 --> 1:14:03.679
<v Speaker 1>talking about? Bro? I would like it. Now you're gonna

1:14:03.680 --> 1:14:05.840
<v Speaker 1>get the same check. I'm gonna give you a better split,

1:14:06.000 --> 1:14:07.839
<v Speaker 1>just trust me. And I was one of his first lines.

1:14:08.400 --> 1:14:11.120
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, and it's you know, I always tell people

1:14:11.160 --> 1:14:15.760
<v Speaker 1>like Empires the shit check comes every month. First I

1:14:15.840 --> 1:14:18.000
<v Speaker 1>tell some of these major label artists how much I

1:14:18.000 --> 1:14:20.080
<v Speaker 1>get for iTunes checks and the like what fuck are

1:14:20.120 --> 1:14:23.280
<v Speaker 1>you serious? Well, they're idiots. They signed all their leverage away.

1:14:23.360 --> 1:14:25.719
<v Speaker 1>They fucking a lot of these major artists they signed

1:14:25.760 --> 1:14:27.920
<v Speaker 1>too early. I feel bad because when I tell them

1:14:27.920 --> 1:14:30.639
<v Speaker 1>how much I get from just my empire check alone,

1:14:30.760 --> 1:14:34.519
<v Speaker 1>you could see their eyes like what well, because most

1:14:34.880 --> 1:14:37.959
<v Speaker 1>artists aren't getting any money, don't get anything. They're literally

1:14:38.160 --> 1:14:40.760
<v Speaker 1>they got to make their advance last because they're not

1:14:40.800 --> 1:14:43.599
<v Speaker 1>going to ever recoup, you know. Uh. We did an

1:14:43.600 --> 1:14:46.040
<v Speaker 1>interview with YG a couple of years maybe like middle

1:14:46.040 --> 1:14:48.559
<v Speaker 1>of the pandemic. He was like, I've never seen any

1:14:48.600 --> 1:14:51.000
<v Speaker 1>money off my depth. Jam shit. He's one of the

1:14:51.000 --> 1:14:54.080
<v Speaker 1>dopest guys ever. That's he's the best, terrible and at

1:14:54.080 --> 1:14:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the time he was like on some fuck death jam shit.

1:14:56.000 --> 1:14:59.479
<v Speaker 1>But like, it's crazy because that story is happens a lot.

1:15:00.040 --> 1:15:02.519
<v Speaker 1>If someone didn't give you some money up front, it's

1:15:02.520 --> 1:15:05.920
<v Speaker 1>probably a bunch of bullshit comes with it a thousand

1:15:06.000 --> 1:15:08.639
<v Speaker 1>the way I did. Yeah, I always tell everybody, man,

1:15:08.720 --> 1:15:11.640
<v Speaker 1>don't take the bigger the advance. You better make it

1:15:11.640 --> 1:15:13.559
<v Speaker 1>the longer. You got to make it last. It kept

1:15:13.560 --> 1:15:16.200
<v Speaker 1>a certain hunger inside me too. I like being the underdog.

1:15:17.640 --> 1:15:23.200
<v Speaker 1>That's what's your favorite Burner album. Like, you just said

1:15:23.200 --> 1:15:24.640
<v Speaker 1>you're working on your best album yet. I've heard you

1:15:24.640 --> 1:15:26.160
<v Speaker 1>say that almost every time you put an album out.

1:15:26.200 --> 1:15:30.720
<v Speaker 1>But what's your favorite ever? Um? Fuck, dude, They're they're

1:15:30.760 --> 1:15:33.280
<v Speaker 1>like journals, dude, I don't know. I mean, I think

1:15:33.320 --> 1:15:35.679
<v Speaker 1>the White album. I think Drugstore Cowboy is a good one.

1:15:36.200 --> 1:15:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I think the White Album was really really good too.

1:15:40.160 --> 1:15:41.479
<v Speaker 1>But the reason why I say this is the best

1:15:41.520 --> 1:15:44.400
<v Speaker 1>album I've done now is because I got Cosmo producing it.

1:15:44.400 --> 1:15:47.920
<v Speaker 1>It's my best friend. We work great together. You guys

1:15:47.920 --> 1:15:50.000
<v Speaker 1>just did a collap album. Yeah, And I really leveled

1:15:50.000 --> 1:15:51.719
<v Speaker 1>them up on the way that we're doing the production

1:15:51.800 --> 1:15:53.679
<v Speaker 1>of the project. I gave him free range, like instead

1:15:53.720 --> 1:15:54.880
<v Speaker 1>of me just being in the studio like send me

1:15:54.920 --> 1:15:56.880
<v Speaker 1>a beat them out of the rap, Like we're just

1:15:56.920 --> 1:15:59.840
<v Speaker 1>spending ten days on just producing this thing and then

1:16:00.000 --> 1:16:02.360
<v Speaker 1>IM gonna take that production come back you know on

1:16:02.920 --> 1:16:05.000
<v Speaker 1>five days, six days from now, and then really just

1:16:05.040 --> 1:16:08.000
<v Speaker 1>dive into like recording. So I like this body work

1:16:08.040 --> 1:16:11.000
<v Speaker 1>as we're actually really doing it, like from scratch, yeah,

1:16:11.320 --> 1:16:14.200
<v Speaker 1>from the red samples. I'm not getting sued anymore. People

1:16:14.200 --> 1:16:17.200
<v Speaker 1>playing guitars, people doing vocals, Like it's really cool. You

1:16:17.240 --> 1:16:22.599
<v Speaker 1>had like an era with al Chievo where you were

1:16:22.880 --> 1:16:26.240
<v Speaker 1>diving a lot into collaborating with Latin artists, and I

1:16:26.280 --> 1:16:27.800
<v Speaker 1>know that you had kind of flirted with the idea

1:16:27.800 --> 1:16:31.960
<v Speaker 1>of maybe doing an album with Dell Records. Yeah, I

1:16:32.000 --> 1:16:35.360
<v Speaker 1>mean the record is incredible. Shout out to Chris. I

1:16:35.439 --> 1:16:38.400
<v Speaker 1>think I think I was DJing one of your shows.

1:16:38.439 --> 1:16:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it was in Vegas at hard Rock, and

1:16:41.240 --> 1:16:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Chris came out and saying and yeah, but that was, like,

1:16:45.640 --> 1:16:47.920
<v Speaker 1>what did you learn from kind of dabbling in that

1:16:48.040 --> 1:16:50.799
<v Speaker 1>side of the game, because the Latin shit is crazy.

1:16:50.800 --> 1:16:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I just was in the Latin billboards for a whole

1:16:53.000 --> 1:16:55.000
<v Speaker 1>week because my artist is Mexicans, so we were out there.

1:16:55.200 --> 1:16:57.439
<v Speaker 1>I just learned a different world, the world out there.

1:16:57.479 --> 1:16:59.519
<v Speaker 1>And I think what we did with Del Chivo Records,

1:16:59.520 --> 1:17:02.519
<v Speaker 1>we took pop in their traditional like style of making

1:17:02.600 --> 1:17:04.759
<v Speaker 1>music and combineded it and it was like the first

1:17:05.400 --> 1:17:08.400
<v Speaker 1>of that kind, Like we flipped the knas beat dude. You,

1:17:08.560 --> 1:17:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like we flipped the old NAS record and

1:17:11.000 --> 1:17:12.680
<v Speaker 1>we did it like that. And so I think that

1:17:12.720 --> 1:17:14.840
<v Speaker 1>no one's really tried. And I kept to what I do.

1:17:14.960 --> 1:17:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I wrapped in English, he sang in Spanish and it

1:17:17.040 --> 1:17:20.000
<v Speaker 1>was a great natural combination of music. And I mean

1:17:20.040 --> 1:17:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I would love to sit down with them and do

1:17:21.400 --> 1:17:23.040
<v Speaker 1>a project with them. I'm down and do an album

1:17:23.040 --> 1:17:25.960
<v Speaker 1>with him for sure, and produce everything live and documented.

1:17:26.000 --> 1:17:27.639
<v Speaker 1>Like that's kind of shit. That would be fun because

1:17:27.640 --> 1:17:28.680
<v Speaker 1>you were like starting to work with a lot of

1:17:28.760 --> 1:17:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Latin artists, obviously Azuna I tried. I tried it with Laplaza.

1:17:33.160 --> 1:17:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I tried it, but like it's just it's tough, man, Like,

1:17:35.720 --> 1:17:38.960
<v Speaker 1>it's just music is tough, like people. People enjoyed it,

1:17:39.000 --> 1:17:41.599
<v Speaker 1>and music actually was really good, but my core fan

1:17:41.640 --> 1:17:44.479
<v Speaker 1>base complained a little bit. So it's tough to dill

1:17:44.640 --> 1:17:48.519
<v Speaker 1>that in. You know, what was it like working with

1:17:48.640 --> 1:17:52.519
<v Speaker 1>Nipsey on the wax Room and like best rest and

1:17:52.560 --> 1:17:54.920
<v Speaker 1>peace of Nipsy. I mean, I made the record. I'm

1:17:54.920 --> 1:17:57.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell this story. I never really told this story either.

1:17:57.600 --> 1:18:00.240
<v Speaker 1>I made the record, I hit up Nipsey. Me and

1:18:00.320 --> 1:18:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Nipsey talked a lot and DM and Nipsey's the one rapper,

1:18:03.479 --> 1:18:05.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the only rappers that respected me as a musician.

1:18:06.600 --> 1:18:09.559
<v Speaker 1>He respected my music. He gave me my props all

1:18:09.600 --> 1:18:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the time on the music. I talked a lot with

1:18:12.080 --> 1:18:15.080
<v Speaker 1>him in the DM and you know, text back and forth,

1:18:15.120 --> 1:18:16.600
<v Speaker 1>and so I hit him. I was like, yeah, I

1:18:16.640 --> 1:18:20.280
<v Speaker 1>got this record. He's like, pull up, shit hopped an uber,

1:18:20.400 --> 1:18:24.559
<v Speaker 1>pulled up by myself. His studio was Hella Deep, Hello, Hello,

1:18:24.760 --> 1:18:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Hello homies. They're all so welcomed into me star Blaze.

1:18:27.920 --> 1:18:31.080
<v Speaker 1>And he won the booth. He did his vocals, killed it,

1:18:31.360 --> 1:18:33.479
<v Speaker 1>gave me the session. I went right back to my studio,

1:18:33.600 --> 1:18:36.080
<v Speaker 1>mixed it, and then we came time for the video.

1:18:37.000 --> 1:18:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I came out to La to do the video and

1:18:39.360 --> 1:18:41.519
<v Speaker 1>he didn't he. I was blown over he didn't show up.

1:18:41.840 --> 1:18:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like fucking faith on me. I was blowing

1:18:44.000 --> 1:18:45.960
<v Speaker 1>him up. I'm like, you know what, fuck it, it's cool.

1:18:46.360 --> 1:18:48.040
<v Speaker 1>And the next day he hit me like my bad bro,

1:18:48.160 --> 1:18:50.360
<v Speaker 1>was done with some shit, like some real shit. But

1:18:50.439 --> 1:18:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I got you. Send the camera guy to me and

1:18:52.439 --> 1:18:54.479
<v Speaker 1>knocked that out for you. I'll take care of it.

1:18:54.479 --> 1:18:56.439
<v Speaker 1>I'll pay him too. I got you. I'm like, nah, man,

1:18:56.520 --> 1:18:59.240
<v Speaker 1>you sure. He's like, yeah, he knocked it out, Bro,

1:18:59.360 --> 1:19:01.280
<v Speaker 1>he knocked out he scenes for me, send it to me.

1:19:01.880 --> 1:19:04.360
<v Speaker 1>It was it was perfect. Bro, Like I give that

1:19:04.400 --> 1:19:06.439
<v Speaker 1>guy so much respect on what kind of person he was,

1:19:06.479 --> 1:19:09.519
<v Speaker 1>what kind of business guy? He was, so he showed

1:19:09.520 --> 1:19:11.600
<v Speaker 1>me a lot of love. Yeah. I think like he

1:19:12.000 --> 1:19:13.920
<v Speaker 1>also too, like with you know the way you're kind

1:19:13.960 --> 1:19:16.160
<v Speaker 1>of showing people, there's there's a whole other way you

1:19:16.200 --> 1:19:18.680
<v Speaker 1>could go with this shit. He did a good job

1:19:18.720 --> 1:19:20.720
<v Speaker 1>of showing people the same way. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, No,

1:19:20.880 --> 1:19:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, dude, just fucked. That guy's the best. I think.

1:19:23.439 --> 1:19:25.000
<v Speaker 1>The last time I talked to him, he told me

1:19:25.439 --> 1:19:27.720
<v Speaker 1>you did for the word cookies what doctor J did

1:19:27.760 --> 1:19:30.040
<v Speaker 1>for the word chronic. I can't even say cookies without

1:19:30.040 --> 1:19:33.120
<v Speaker 1>people digging its weed. Pops, bro, you really did that shit.

1:19:33.160 --> 1:19:35.240
<v Speaker 1>That's the last time I talked to him. Yeah, I mean,

1:19:35.360 --> 1:19:37.400
<v Speaker 1>what was the origin of cookies? Because I always hear

1:19:37.439 --> 1:19:40.040
<v Speaker 1>different stories, right that, like you were behind that girl

1:19:40.120 --> 1:19:43.400
<v Speaker 1>the original strain, or your people were behind the original strain,

1:19:43.560 --> 1:19:46.000
<v Speaker 1>that we were original shit was called girl Scout cookies,

1:19:46.000 --> 1:19:47.519
<v Speaker 1>but we knew we were gonna get suitics. I just

1:19:47.560 --> 1:19:49.639
<v Speaker 1>called the cookies. I think the first time I ever

1:19:49.720 --> 1:19:52.040
<v Speaker 1>smoked it was with two chains at Molly Mom's house

1:19:52.040 --> 1:19:54.400
<v Speaker 1>in Vegas in like two thousand and ten or eleven

1:19:55.000 --> 1:19:57.000
<v Speaker 1>two changes with my boy too. I like two chains, man,

1:19:57.040 --> 1:20:00.080
<v Speaker 1>It's a cool cat Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've I

1:20:00.320 --> 1:20:01.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he's doing anything in the weird game,

1:20:01.880 --> 1:20:03.880
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like he should be. He's a man,

1:20:03.920 --> 1:20:06.120
<v Speaker 1>bro like I DM with him a lot too, just

1:20:06.120 --> 1:20:08.840
<v Speaker 1>bullshit and he's cool. I like two chance. Yeah, Chang's

1:20:08.880 --> 1:20:12.360
<v Speaker 1>a good dude. Who's besides you know? Uh, let's let's

1:20:12.400 --> 1:20:15.920
<v Speaker 1>take ross with the immediate guys. We know you to

1:20:15.920 --> 1:20:17.720
<v Speaker 1>be really close with. Who would you consider to be

1:20:17.840 --> 1:20:19.920
<v Speaker 1>like a true friend in the rap game that you've

1:20:20.000 --> 1:20:23.920
<v Speaker 1>encountered because we have a lot of accomposes Mazi. He's

1:20:23.920 --> 1:20:27.040
<v Speaker 1>a good friend. Bro. We talk about life. We don't

1:20:27.120 --> 1:20:32.920
<v Speaker 1>we don't really talk about politics that. We talk about life, kids, business,

1:20:33.880 --> 1:20:36.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, just life, bro. I like, Mazi, would you

1:20:36.120 --> 1:20:39.679
<v Speaker 1>do a sequel? Hell yeah, I'm working on this ship

1:20:39.760 --> 1:20:42.200
<v Speaker 1>right now. That'd be crazy. Yeah, I need that. That

1:20:42.320 --> 1:20:44.320
<v Speaker 1>first one is gonna be hard to top, man, it's

1:20:44.360 --> 1:20:46.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna be easy. You guys got you got logic on

1:20:46.320 --> 1:20:48.519
<v Speaker 1>the song with Mazi? Yeah, exactly. You know what that

1:20:48.680 --> 1:20:51.760
<v Speaker 1>song is cracking on Spotify right now. It's probably when

1:20:51.840 --> 1:20:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Mazzi's number one songs on Spotify just found this out

1:20:54.560 --> 1:20:56.400
<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere. It just happened like no, it is,

1:20:56.479 --> 1:20:59.120
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's I just was on Mazzi's profile and

1:20:59.120 --> 1:21:00.960
<v Speaker 1>it was in the top five. Yeah, it just happened

1:21:01.000 --> 1:21:03.439
<v Speaker 1>like a couple of months ago. But yeah, Logic, because

1:21:03.479 --> 1:21:05.400
<v Speaker 1>like for a while there, you were, you were, you

1:21:05.439 --> 1:21:07.760
<v Speaker 1>were linking with Logic a lot. I was trying to

1:21:07.760 --> 1:21:09.479
<v Speaker 1>do some with him. But you know, he's he's a

1:21:09.520 --> 1:21:11.920
<v Speaker 1>busy guy, man, you know, he's he's I know he

1:21:11.960 --> 1:21:15.320
<v Speaker 1>started smoking and getting you know, logic smokes man. No,

1:21:15.400 --> 1:21:17.639
<v Speaker 1>I know, but he used to not Yeah, he used

1:21:17.640 --> 1:21:20.160
<v Speaker 1>to be a drinker. Yeah, he likes to week So

1:21:20.200 --> 1:21:21.880
<v Speaker 1>you guys were trying to because I know he pulled

1:21:21.960 --> 1:21:24.920
<v Speaker 1>up to the cookies on Melowse Grand opening. Yeah, we're

1:21:24.920 --> 1:21:27.000
<v Speaker 1>going to do something, man, but I don't think I

1:21:27.000 --> 1:21:28.840
<v Speaker 1>don't think he had the attention to do it. We're

1:21:28.880 --> 1:21:31.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna do something together. We're in Stony Bob Ship. Yeah,

1:21:31.320 --> 1:21:33.439
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do it. Man. It just never happened. Just

1:21:33.479 --> 1:21:36.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't end up coming to fruition. Nah. I love Logic.

1:21:36.880 --> 1:21:42.760
<v Speaker 1>He's only and then, uh, you know you was a

1:21:42.800 --> 1:21:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Michael Blanco you did the podcast with and the Strain.

1:21:45.640 --> 1:21:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah Corleon Yeah, yeah, or Michael Corleon. I'm but the

1:21:49.720 --> 1:21:52.960
<v Speaker 1>we he's called Blanco right. Yeah. Yeah, so that's but uh,

1:21:53.320 --> 1:21:56.519
<v Speaker 1>how that relationship start because I listened to that podcast.

1:21:56.520 --> 1:22:01.120
<v Speaker 1>It was a wild ass podcast, you know. Man. One

1:22:01.160 --> 1:22:04.240
<v Speaker 1>of our team members did design with his mom on it,

1:22:04.720 --> 1:22:06.519
<v Speaker 1>and he reached out through a mutual army. It was like,

1:22:07.080 --> 1:22:09.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't get it fucked up with my mother's son. Dude, Like,

1:22:09.640 --> 1:22:11.320
<v Speaker 1>you know you're gonna do something higher at me? And

1:22:11.320 --> 1:22:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh shiittud's a boss called him. We

1:22:14.920 --> 1:22:16.840
<v Speaker 1>just bonded. Hell it right away. I had a lot

1:22:16.880 --> 1:22:20.040
<v Speaker 1>of things, a lot of mutual friends, and just just

1:22:20.080 --> 1:22:22.800
<v Speaker 1>build a friendship from there, did some business and that's

1:22:22.840 --> 1:22:26.080
<v Speaker 1>my guy. He's a man. Yeah no, that was you

1:22:26.080 --> 1:22:28.040
<v Speaker 1>got to bring back burners roundtable, bro. I want to

1:22:28.080 --> 1:22:29.680
<v Speaker 1>bring him back. I'm working on something right now. I'm

1:22:29.680 --> 1:22:31.320
<v Speaker 1>working on a deal with it. I just my whole

1:22:31.360 --> 1:22:32.880
<v Speaker 1>thing is it got to be the right platform. They

1:22:32.880 --> 1:22:35.320
<v Speaker 1>got to be the right production value. Ninety You gotta

1:22:35.320 --> 1:22:37.600
<v Speaker 1>do video because the first one you guys didn't do

1:22:37.600 --> 1:22:40.160
<v Speaker 1>any video, right, it's all audio. Yeah, I want to

1:22:40.200 --> 1:22:41.719
<v Speaker 1>do I want to do it. I'm talking to someone

1:22:41.800 --> 1:22:43.080
<v Speaker 1>right now. I just told him, like it got to

1:22:43.160 --> 1:22:45.280
<v Speaker 1>elevate it got to compliment the level of business I'm

1:22:45.280 --> 1:22:46.439
<v Speaker 1>doing right now. I don't want to just do it

1:22:46.479 --> 1:22:49.799
<v Speaker 1>for you know, just to do it. Is it hard? Uh?

1:22:50.560 --> 1:22:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Because you you know, you hit the road, you do

1:22:52.400 --> 1:22:56.760
<v Speaker 1>your your yearly shows. Is it hard for you to

1:22:56.760 --> 1:22:58.680
<v Speaker 1>step out and hit that stage with what's going on

1:22:58.800 --> 1:23:00.599
<v Speaker 1>right now? Like as far as you like getting over

1:23:00.640 --> 1:23:03.000
<v Speaker 1>that mental blockade that like ship, there's a thousand people

1:23:03.040 --> 1:23:04.160
<v Speaker 1>in front of me. I don't know if they got

1:23:04.400 --> 1:23:07.360
<v Speaker 1>COVID or not. Well, we just I mean all you

1:23:07.360 --> 1:23:09.759
<v Speaker 1>can do right now, and yeah, no it is fucking scary.

1:23:09.800 --> 1:23:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean all you can do is keep your immune

1:23:11.160 --> 1:23:14.479
<v Speaker 1>system strong, you know, keep your backstage clean, test everyone

1:23:14.560 --> 1:23:17.360
<v Speaker 1>that's coming backstage with you, and roll the dice. Man,

1:23:17.400 --> 1:23:19.519
<v Speaker 1>if I got a showing Oklahoma coming up, the motherfuckers

1:23:19.560 --> 1:23:22.160
<v Speaker 1>told me it was outside indoors. I'm like, God, damn it.

1:23:22.640 --> 1:23:24.160
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? But it is what it is. Man,

1:23:24.160 --> 1:23:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Like I get high from the crowd. So what's your

1:23:27.400 --> 1:23:30.120
<v Speaker 1>You have some crazy fans. One in particular I remember

1:23:30.280 --> 1:23:33.360
<v Speaker 1>was a guy in Tucson, Arizona, had a portrait of you,

1:23:33.439 --> 1:23:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the fat dude. He had a portrait of you and

1:23:35.040 --> 1:23:37.160
<v Speaker 1>his fucking belly. I love that guy, you know what

1:23:37.160 --> 1:23:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about? And where's that send? That guy is

1:23:39.080 --> 1:23:42.000
<v Speaker 1>roast man. This guy's got a burner portrait on his

1:23:42.120 --> 1:23:44.519
<v Speaker 1>belly with the Cookies logo underneath of it, like it's

1:23:44.600 --> 1:23:47.559
<v Speaker 1>Tupac Thug life. Yeah. And I was, I was DJing

1:23:47.600 --> 1:23:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the show and I look in the crowd. This guy

1:23:49.120 --> 1:23:53.200
<v Speaker 1>fucking showed me. I was like, oh, this is different.

1:23:53.560 --> 1:23:55.599
<v Speaker 1>You know what's tired about that ship? Bro? What's tied

1:23:55.600 --> 1:23:58.120
<v Speaker 1>about is I know deep downside, if you know, God

1:23:58.160 --> 1:24:00.960
<v Speaker 1>forbid something happens to me. Broma lived for long time, bro, like,

1:24:01.360 --> 1:24:03.360
<v Speaker 1>and I did that off like staying true to like

1:24:03.439 --> 1:24:06.479
<v Speaker 1>what I wanted to do, like dough cookies, dough vibes

1:24:06.520 --> 1:24:08.760
<v Speaker 1>and music. I got a place here for a while.

1:24:08.840 --> 1:24:10.920
<v Speaker 1>So it's tight to see that because that she ain't

1:24:10.920 --> 1:24:13.839
<v Speaker 1>going nowhere. Homi's gonna have that forever. He's a grandpa

1:24:13.880 --> 1:24:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and she's gonna have that right here. Who's that? Oh?

1:24:16.680 --> 1:24:19.840
<v Speaker 1>This this guy this is you know, it's a good accomplishment, man, Like,

1:24:20.360 --> 1:24:22.840
<v Speaker 1>people got that ship tattooed all over the world. My

1:24:23.000 --> 1:24:27.920
<v Speaker 1>logo this nation's compliment. You talk about vibes, I know

1:24:28.000 --> 1:24:30.800
<v Speaker 1>you and the guy from Raw Papers went at it

1:24:31.400 --> 1:24:34.960
<v Speaker 1>for a while. What happened there. He's a homie now, dude.

1:24:35.120 --> 1:24:37.400
<v Speaker 1>You and Josh worked it out. Yeah, he's a homie now.

1:24:37.640 --> 1:24:40.719
<v Speaker 1>So because it was it was pretty contentious for a while.

1:24:40.880 --> 1:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I know, literally I literally kind of stopped following dude. Yeah,

1:24:45.200 --> 1:24:48.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, at the end of the day, bro, I

1:24:48.200 --> 1:24:51.640
<v Speaker 1>think that just like business is emotional, that that category,

1:24:51.920 --> 1:24:55.360
<v Speaker 1>that rolling paper category is very small, bro, and he's

1:24:55.400 --> 1:24:58.560
<v Speaker 1>had his, he's had his is very political. Yeah, I

1:24:58.640 --> 1:25:02.640
<v Speaker 1>think that, Like, I think he expected me to just

1:25:02.880 --> 1:25:07.640
<v Speaker 1>not go do something in that space, and we just

1:25:07.680 --> 1:25:10.320
<v Speaker 1>recently we started talking again and I got major. I

1:25:10.320 --> 1:25:12.479
<v Speaker 1>always say in the interviews too, he is the paper,

1:25:12.640 --> 1:25:15.920
<v Speaker 1>don He's the one that he's the boss of the

1:25:15.960 --> 1:25:18.920
<v Speaker 1>paper game. Doesn't mean that I can't do my thing too.

1:25:19.000 --> 1:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>So I think we're in a good position now to

1:25:20.600 --> 1:25:22.960
<v Speaker 1>where he respects what I'm doing and I respect him.

1:25:23.160 --> 1:25:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I always respect him. Well, you guys had a relationship

1:25:25.400 --> 1:25:28.719
<v Speaker 1>prior to you launching Vice. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, he's cool.

1:25:29.120 --> 1:25:31.240
<v Speaker 1>He's a business mogul. Bro. At the end of the day,

1:25:31.280 --> 1:25:33.960
<v Speaker 1>like I look up to the kind of business he's accomplished.

1:25:34.000 --> 1:25:36.280
<v Speaker 1>So it's like I respect him. Now. We had a

1:25:36.320 --> 1:25:38.040
<v Speaker 1>falling out and I reacted the way it did, and

1:25:38.080 --> 1:25:39.920
<v Speaker 1>he reacted the way he did towards me. But I

1:25:39.920 --> 1:25:44.240
<v Speaker 1>think all that time went past and let bygones be

1:25:44.280 --> 1:25:45.880
<v Speaker 1>by gone, and it's not like either of you guys

1:25:45.880 --> 1:25:48.599
<v Speaker 1>lost respect for each other. Nah, Bro, I think he respects.

1:25:48.600 --> 1:25:50.439
<v Speaker 1>I think that I've leveled up a lot since that

1:25:50.479 --> 1:25:52.880
<v Speaker 1>falling out and he respects where I'm at now. Has

1:25:52.920 --> 1:25:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the paper business been the most challenging thing you've done?

1:25:55.040 --> 1:25:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Because it feels like, like you said, it's a very

1:25:57.400 --> 1:25:59.960
<v Speaker 1>like interesting business. I'm sure at first, Yeah, at first

1:26:00.120 --> 1:26:02.360
<v Speaker 1>it was challenging, Bro, because there was a lot of roadblocks.

1:26:02.479 --> 1:26:04.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, was it from him or was it from

1:26:04.360 --> 1:26:08.040
<v Speaker 1>people other competitors. I'm sure it was. But now we

1:26:08.160 --> 1:26:10.800
<v Speaker 1>got this in chokehold is the wrap? Yeah, because like

1:26:11.000 --> 1:26:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I see, I see it myself now. Vibes is like everywhere, bro, like,

1:26:15.240 --> 1:26:17.599
<v Speaker 1>and we're doing cool products like the Cali Like that's

1:26:17.680 --> 1:26:20.040
<v Speaker 1>innovative as fuck, Like the first person to launch like

1:26:20.040 --> 1:26:24.080
<v Speaker 1>a cylinder style you know, product where you could just

1:26:24.080 --> 1:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>stuff it and blaze it. Yeah, a cone and cone's cool.

1:26:27.120 --> 1:26:28.640
<v Speaker 1>The cone don't really hit like that, you know what

1:26:28.640 --> 1:26:31.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean so, I mean, I'm fired up. We're doing

1:26:31.560 --> 1:26:33.479
<v Speaker 1>cool things like the Cabano, the Cali. We got a

1:26:33.479 --> 1:26:35.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of things coming up. Which one is the red? One?

1:26:35.320 --> 1:26:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Is that the Cali? Well, the Cali the red? So like, okay,

1:26:39.200 --> 1:26:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you got hemp is red, rice is blue, and then

1:26:42.080 --> 1:26:44.720
<v Speaker 1>black is ultra thin and green is organic hemp. So

1:26:45.160 --> 1:26:49.759
<v Speaker 1>we have just different exkews. What's next, man, besides the movies,

1:26:49.800 --> 1:26:53.120
<v Speaker 1>besides the TV? Is there anything else? I want to

1:26:53.120 --> 1:26:55.320
<v Speaker 1>be a I want to be a chef. Bro, you

1:26:55.320 --> 1:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>can cook, I can cook good. So you want to

1:26:57.600 --> 1:26:59.120
<v Speaker 1>open a restaurant or you want to be a chef.

1:26:59.200 --> 1:27:01.479
<v Speaker 1>I want to first be a chef's like like an

1:27:01.520 --> 1:27:03.720
<v Speaker 1>ideal world cook for you after this interview, you know,

1:27:03.760 --> 1:27:06.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean like do some personal chef ship and then

1:27:06.200 --> 1:27:08.559
<v Speaker 1>maybe one day open the restaurant. Yeah, what is your

1:27:09.760 --> 1:27:12.759
<v Speaker 1>if you had to open any kind of restaurant, Latin fusion?

1:27:12.920 --> 1:27:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Probably Latin fusion. Yeah, I like that. So let's say

1:27:17.400 --> 1:27:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, burn, cook me your best dish, come on

1:27:20.680 --> 1:27:23.599
<v Speaker 1>over for dinner, whip some ship up. What are you making? Ship?

1:27:26.240 --> 1:27:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Probably like a like a right now, My best dish

1:27:30.360 --> 1:27:32.280
<v Speaker 1>right now is the lamb chops of the reduced white

1:27:32.280 --> 1:27:35.880
<v Speaker 1>wine sauce. Some nice Christy lemon potatoes are nice sold

1:27:35.920 --> 1:27:38.920
<v Speaker 1>on the side super fire. Maybe put over some yellow

1:27:38.960 --> 1:27:42.920
<v Speaker 1>saffron rice or something like that. Is your wife a

1:27:42.960 --> 1:27:46.439
<v Speaker 1>better cook than you? She has more plates than me.

1:27:46.800 --> 1:27:48.920
<v Speaker 1>She has more plates. What you make, you can you

1:27:48.960 --> 1:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>can throw down, but she got it. She's got more.

1:27:51.040 --> 1:27:53.519
<v Speaker 1>But it's team. We both throwned to cook together. So

1:27:53.760 --> 1:27:56.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, so you're getting into food businesses. What's next

1:27:56.640 --> 1:27:59.479
<v Speaker 1>for the Empire? Probably think so, Hey, man, I could

1:27:59.479 --> 1:28:02.479
<v Speaker 1>see it, bro Bernie hunting bro. I would see how

1:28:02.520 --> 1:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>dope is it? Because you were talking about being on

1:28:04.000 --> 1:28:05.920
<v Speaker 1>hate street like freestyle and how dope is it to

1:28:05.960 --> 1:28:10.920
<v Speaker 1>have your own shit on on that street? Now? Do

1:28:10.960 --> 1:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>you feel like San Francisco? Because I'm now that I'm

1:28:13.040 --> 1:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>working with Empire. I go to San Francisco often at

1:28:15.360 --> 1:28:18.160
<v Speaker 1>least once a month I'm there, and you know, I'll

1:28:18.200 --> 1:28:21.360
<v Speaker 1>talk to guys like like a man or you know, shabbaz,

1:28:21.439 --> 1:28:23.120
<v Speaker 1>like guys from the Bay and they're like, yo, the

1:28:23.240 --> 1:28:24.960
<v Speaker 1>energy is kind of out of the city right now.

1:28:25.200 --> 1:28:28.000
<v Speaker 1>It is like, like, what do you think kind of

1:28:28.040 --> 1:28:30.479
<v Speaker 1>the Bay is right now? Because I'll go there and

1:28:30.479 --> 1:28:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll be like, man, I remember when I was coming

1:28:31.800 --> 1:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>here five or six years ago, Like there was like

1:28:33.640 --> 1:28:36.280
<v Speaker 1>a it feels like the vibe is kind of missing

1:28:36.360 --> 1:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>right now. The Bear is a tough place. That's the

1:28:40.600 --> 1:28:43.519
<v Speaker 1>best way I could describe it. It's just tough. Every

1:28:43.560 --> 1:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>aspect of life just tough. It's expensive, expensive. Not a

1:28:49.600 --> 1:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of people made it from the Bay. People don't

1:28:51.880 --> 1:28:55.240
<v Speaker 1>trust each other, there's no unity, Like it's just weird. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like a very like especially now too, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you can't even go to a fucking restaurant if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not vaccinated. It's just you can't even go to a

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant without getting your windows broken either. So it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, oh yeah, because it's it's the smashing grab capital.

1:29:08.840 --> 1:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>So I'm doing the movie Splash City. It's crazy School

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<v Speaker 1>New Years You drive? Is that what the movie is

1:29:14.840 --> 1:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of? Yeah, it's all based on that. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>for people who don't know the smash and grab capital

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<v Speaker 1>of the world, it's crazy. Your window gets smashed out

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<v Speaker 1>if you got anything in your fucking car, and if

1:29:25.360 --> 1:29:27.439
<v Speaker 1>you don't just pop windows, they're just gonna see what's

1:29:27.479 --> 1:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>in there. Yeah, that ship is wild, man, That ship

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy. So the new album that you're working on

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<v Speaker 1>right now, is it going to be coming up for

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the year. Yeah, what's it called? Do

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<v Speaker 1>we know? I'm working on that name right now. It's very.

1:29:42.040 --> 1:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>The name is very. It's gonna take some I have

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<v Speaker 1>to get some permission for the name. But just know

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be mafia. I leave it at that. Some

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<v Speaker 1>mafia ship, mafia, some movie ship. Nah. But it's tight, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, it's the next level. Dude. It's gonna be sick.

1:29:59.479 --> 1:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you off lie. You always are so good

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<v Speaker 1>at your artwork too. This one's gonna be fucking crazy. Yeah.

1:30:06.600 --> 1:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you've had the same dude doing your

1:30:08.080 --> 1:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>covers from the Jump photo Doctor Kills. It's best. Yeah, yeah,

1:30:13.160 --> 1:30:15.960
<v Speaker 1>it's it's like, uh, everything's consistent except for I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, the one where you had the guy do

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<v Speaker 1>the weed. Was that the Coscatto? Yeah, yeah, Big Piscatto.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we know it was that. Yeah. It's so crazy

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<v Speaker 1>how you don't even know because you have like fifty

1:30:27.160 --> 1:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>million albums, I have no clue anymore. Well, listen, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to hear the new music you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, Bro, when you hit me, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta do it for sure. Yeah, go go get

1:30:40.200 --> 1:30:43.760
<v Speaker 1>you some cookies. Yeah, man, go gies your lungs. Sorry, man,

1:30:43.960 --> 1:30:46.679
<v Speaker 1>put your lungs right, get your gear right, Smoke some vibes.

1:30:47.160 --> 1:30:49.639
<v Speaker 1>Zuomi's the biggest like retailer that holds cookies right now,

1:30:51.160 --> 1:30:54.519
<v Speaker 1>probably the biggest chain story. Yeah, it's so crazy, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I got fucking the new ship yard dropping luggage.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking I I'm not gonna stop. I bought the cookies slides.

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<v Speaker 1>My puppy fucked them up. Shout out to my new

1:31:01.960 --> 1:31:04.680
<v Speaker 1>French bulldog fucked up my red ones. Don't worry, We've

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<v Speaker 1>got another box. Yeah. Yeah, listen, man, I appreciate you,

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<v Speaker 1>burn and I am proud of you. Bro. Man, I

1:31:11.680 --> 1:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>will go do what I do. I'm gonna go get

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<v Speaker 1>to work. Man, Let's go, Burner Bootleg cap podcast boom