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Speaker 1: You got a wedgie to talk about a wedgie last night,

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Speaker 1: number thirty eight. We talked this into existence. We said

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Speaker 1: to some of the games from last night, but some

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Speaker 1: unfortunate news. Buckstar Damian Lillard has been diagnosed with deep

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Speaker 1: Dame is on a blood thinning medication which has stabilized

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Speaker 3: It's getting really close to the end of the season

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Speaker 1: Best news here is the belief that it's unlikely to

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Speaker 2: Where they win the title.

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Speaker 1: Think about that one that was Giannis getting injured, and

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Speaker 1: But then yeah, Middleton and Gannest and once again and

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he missed the last three games with this

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Speaker 1: And so they find out it's the blood clot. Now

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Speaker 4: But and you go back a few years in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty two when he was in Portland, he also missed

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Speaker 4: time suffering two strangths to that calf.

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Speaker 2: Now, now that could be a calf strain.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it has may have nothing to do with this blood.

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Speaker 4: But the fact that it isn't a lower extremity. Again,

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Speaker 4: But yes, he had a problem in that part of

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Speaker 3: I thought kind of an underwhelming fan ferocity from Miami.

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Speaker 3: Though the Warriors needed Jimmy's offense terribly, he played like

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Speaker 4: Bad, they absolutely did. They obviously missed Stephen Curry and

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Speaker 4: big win for them. Andrew Wiggins was alive too. That

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm laughing because there was a stretch early in

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Speaker 4: I mean, he missed a shot really really badly. He

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Speaker 4: and he knows pat Riley knows, Jimmy Butler knows Jimmy

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Speaker 4: Butler said it. Nobody arrives on time in Miami, so

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Speaker 4: nobody was there to cheer it, really. I mean there

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Speaker 1: You know, Miami great place to live, so people don't

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Speaker 1: It was typical Miami end quote. Yeah, a couple of

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Speaker 2: It's exactly right, though.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like his hometown of San Diego, you know,

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Speaker 1: Well, the other part is like the heat, you know,

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Speaker 2: This season has gotten completely.

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Speaker 1: To go back to that stat you said, Trey, where

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Speaker 1: Check the box score and name those starters for the

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Speaker 1: twenty twelve New Jersey Nets. They lost eighty six to

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Speaker 3: Gotcha.

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Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna say tiny.

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Speaker 4: Face, Oh you guy, marsh On.

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Speaker 1: Brooks, there you go. I'm going to say the Simpsons.

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Speaker 2: I guess I could say Ken Junior.

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Speaker 5: There we go, a guy named Bart No, Okay, here's

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Speaker 5: the word for you Atmsha.

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Speaker 2: Here we go. Yeah, I don't remember that.

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Speaker 1: I guess I'll give you an easy one here, Kim

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Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: And final one. This could be the toughest one.

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Speaker 4: Is it gasoline? You know, Johan Petro, I'm gonna give you.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a scenario.

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Speaker 1: And this is fitting because our live show here in

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Speaker 1: We joked about talking about this guy because he did

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Speaker 1: This guy, I'm pretty sure hit a huge shot for

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Speaker 1: You don't know you were there, Trey, you were in attendance.

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Speaker 1: I was in attendance.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's the game.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about one of our first live shows ever

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Speaker 4: So he hit a big shot.

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Speaker 3: Years before No. Twelve he hit a big shot, and

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Speaker 4: This is a random year I hit it.

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Speaker 1: Bingo, he hit a huge shot for the Jazz.

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Speaker 2: He had a game or the night before we ever

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Speaker 4: Ever live against Lebron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers.

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Speaker 3: Right, Julie call up maybe that time. I don't remember

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Speaker 3: I guess. I don't think that team won many games

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Speaker 4: I didn't think that would exist, the team only scoring

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Speaker 4: I just didn't think that would exist. I thought you

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Speaker 3: The Zelmo Beaty years, the sel Babies.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting how he wrote.

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Speaker 4: I was thinking small face Marcus Thornton.

440
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Speaker 1: Sorry, go ahead, a big head. I feel like Marcus

441
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:52,879
Speaker 1: Thornton around me.

442
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:59,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of weight his face anyway, Yeah, anyway,

443
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,640
Speaker 4: Thompson wrote for The Athletic last night, how that game.

444
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,400
Speaker 2: Did seem like the perfect occasion for a Jimmy Butler explosion,

445
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 2: like get the preview of the playoff Jimmy that Warriors

446
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,639
Speaker 2: fans are hoping for and expecting because the Warriors are

447
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 2: fighting for playoff positioning. They're on a six game road

448
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker 2: trip here where they had lost the game prior, obviously

449
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 2: without Steph Curry. Then you've got the whole drama of him,

450
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,399
Speaker 2: like you're thinking, want him to stick it to the

451
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 2: heat and pat Riley and all that like, but you know,

452
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 2: Jimmy didn't. He didn't sort of conjure that up at all.

453
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,880
Speaker 2: He was just content to sip his espresso wave politely,

454
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 2: and to quote Marcus Thompson, this trip was much more

455
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 2: about him spending time with his kids. Jimmy Butler, he

456
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,440
Speaker 2: hadn't been with his kids a lot since the trade

457
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 2: and it went home early. Asked Steve Kirk, could he

458
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 2: fly from the one game to get there in time?

459
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Speaker 4: So it's like he also played Domino's at his coffee shop.

460
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was almost like he was not

461
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 1: locked in, Jimmy, I think we all agree with that.

462
00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,439
Speaker 1: I mean I watched this entire game. I was like,

463
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, if it wasn't there from the jump, it's

464
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: not like it's gonna like round into fashion he was

465
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 1: making the right place, but he did not have a

466
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: force to him. It was Bam that had that. Yes,

467
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: and that's what I mean. You would have expected maybe

468
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 1: Jimmy to match him.

469
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,719
Speaker 4: But yeah, he also needed this stuff space that he

470
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 4: creates a big fact.

471
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Speaker 1: I saw those tweets going around these last two games.

472
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Speaker 1: Maybe help some MVP voters throw a throw a bone

473
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Speaker 1: on the back of their ballot to Steph Curry because

474
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 1: you see this team without him, and it's it's stuff.

475
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 3: He's pretty more games to get a ballot bone.

476
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Speaker 1: He's pretty valuable to a ballot bone.

477
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I like that that the four and five

478
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 3: spots on the MVP ballot spots, well, oh yeah, maybe

479
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 3: five should only be the ballot bone for as four

480
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 3: as a second tier MVP.

481
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Speaker 1: Ballot bone to me is not like everybody putting Steph

482
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 1: Curry fifth on their ballot. It's like a couple thrown

483
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 1: here or there, you know, maybe like a dog treat

484
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 1: or our friend Julie when she would leave the house

485
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 1: she had a couple of cats. She would throw cat

486
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: treats all around her house keep the cats busy. For

487
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 1: as convinced they just gobbled them all up. In like

488
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 1: five minutes. But she said, no, no, no.

489
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 2: That'll last time a weekends.

490
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 4: Aren't that sharp. It takes some time, or.

491
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: They're that smart. They go, oh h oh, my owner's

492
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 1: chucking treats all around the house again. That must mean

493
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Speaker 1: she's going to be gone for more than four hours.

494
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean it would be gone for better, say them.

495
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, let's go to the Knicks.

496
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 1: Heart and Towns both recorded triple doubles in the same game.

497
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 1: They're playing the Dallas Mavericks. Now, d you mercal awesome,

498
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 1: you had thirty eight points, but they're totally outclass this team.

499
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: But two Knicks players for the first time ever triple

500
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Speaker 1: double in the same game.

501
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Anthony Davis was supposed to be back, but on

502
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 4: the second night of back to back, No, sir, listen

503
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 4: to Dallas Mavericks were playing a great game against New

504
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 4: York Nicks. In that first half, it was awesome.

505
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 2: They were on fire.

506
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, they shot seventy one percent. First quarter of the

507
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 4: game was tied at half all because of Naja Marshall,

508
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 4: who was cool man. Thirty nine points for that guy,

509
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 4: seventeen of twenty five overall, hitting just one three, so

510
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 4: he had sixteen made twos. Old school basketball is back, baby.

511
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 4: I mean he did it a lot in the paint.

512
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 4: A lot of it is him being able to slash,

513
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 4: create a little bit of space and hit a float

514
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 4: or just throw it up on that rim. He had

515
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 4: eleven of his first twelve buckets twenty of those twenty

516
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,959
Speaker 4: two in the paint, and he was thirteen of fifteen

517
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 4: in the first half. Anyway, I've talked a lot about

518
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 4: this guy. Total straight games of fifteen points or more.

519
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 4: He was averaging twenty two points in that run coming

520
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 4: into that game, so he was awesome.

521
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Speaker 1: What his nickname?

522
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 3: No, the Knife?

523
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, the knife makes sense. He's a Swiss Army No

524
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 4: that he does the exact opposite.

525
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 3: Willie Green was asked, is he a Swiss Army knife

526
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 3: for you? And he said, no, He's just a knife. Literally,

527
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 3: that's what he said. He's just a knife.

528
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 4: He's just a knife.

529
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 3: That's pretty funny.

530
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 4: That's gotta be a lap to the face.

531
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

532
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 3: He was like, he's got no spin moves, he got

533
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 3: no cork screws, he's got no nail files. All he

534
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: goes is to the hoop and you're telling me all

535
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 3: he does is go to the hoop.

536
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 4: That all he does. Yeah, he's not. He doesn't your

537
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 4: shoot threes. That is literally what he does not do.

538
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: Awesome, But I can't.

539
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 4: I got we got ask Willie Green, I got to

540
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 4: ask Steve Kerr. Is that a backhanded slap to the

541
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 4: Miami Heat? Was that a backhanded slap to Najie Marshall?

542
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 4: Who's because this is his best run of his career? Yeah, obviously,

543
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, the Knicks came through. Good for them? Oh

544
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 4: my god, Hey what heart?

545
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 1: Sixteen points, twelve boards, eleven assists. He had triple double

546
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: late in the third quarter, and then Kat got his

547
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: in the fourth midway through the fourth twenty six points,

548
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: twelve boards, eleven times. Og scored thirty five. That's the

549
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: high scoring game for Og since his what forty point

550
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: explosion back in November? And the Nick shot nearly sixty

551
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: percent from the field, and I think they had forty assists.

552
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were rolling.

553
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: And I just saw a lot of people once the

554
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: Knicks did put the game away, a lot of Knicks

555
00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: fans saying, all right, TIBs, take everybody out, rest the

556
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: guys a little bit. We do have another game coming

557
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: up tonight that made me laugh.

558
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 3: It's crazy when you see like the highlight thumbnail for

559
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 3: this and it says how many points did these guys

560
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 3: combine for? Forty Yeah, thirty forty two points, twenty four rebounds,

561
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 3: twenty two assists, And you're like, that's a yokic game.

562
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 3: But that was Towns and Heart combined. You got to

563
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 3: make a lot of shots to have two guys get

564
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: triple doubles. And like you said, they made a ton

565
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 3: of shots. They shot sixty percent. Hard to lose when

566
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 3: you shoot sixty percent. Neither team played any defense in

567
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 3: this game, and New York just kind of counted on

568
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 3: the fact Dallas is going to run out of steam. Yeah,

569
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 3: and they completely ran out of steam in the second half,

570
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 3: playing the second night of a back to back having

571
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 3: no Anthony Davis. So yeah, New York Naji went crazy

572
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 3: twenty two in Brooklyn, thirty eight in New York. But

573
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 3: it did not matter. This was an easy game for

574
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: the next At one point, Karl Anthony Towns broke Kay

575
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 3: Jones's ankle with a pump fake. He fell down on

576
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 3: a pump Think Kai.

577
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Speaker 1: Jones did have a cool moment in this game, though,

578
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: Oh yes, cool moment he had a cool moment, the

579
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: big dunk and then the kip up right away. Yeah.

580
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: So this was the seventeenth time in NBA history that

581
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: two teammates have had a triple double in the same game,

582
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: and we've had Jokich and Westbrook do it I think

583
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: twice this season. Yeah, but obviously the first time in

584
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: New York's New York Knicks franchise history.

585
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: Nine assists in nineteen minutes for Tyler Kolek. People have

586
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 3: been saying this guy should be playing more with Jalen

587
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 3: Brunson out. Not a good scorer, but he moves the ball,

588
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: so maybe that's helpful for them to get some ball

589
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 3: movement here and the last ten games of the season.

590
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 3: I don't think it'll be a factor come playoff time,

591
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,479
Speaker 3: but cool win for the next It looked like a

592
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: fun game out there. Look pretty easy. Look pretty easy

593
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 3: for these guys.

594
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tyler Curlek was great at scrapping on the defensive

595
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 4: end as well. Without Duce McBride, he definitely helped out. Although, yeah,

596
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 4: they need some more defense. That was the thing is

597
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 4: that they We'll be picking them against the Los Angeles

598
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 4: Clippers tonight in our Pickham game. But Najie Marshall to

599
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 4: score thirteen buckets in a first half. That's the most

600
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 4: this season, tied with Shay and Paula Carol for the

601
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 4: most buckets in the first half this season. That is

602
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 4: a freaking lot of.

603
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: Bucks, a lot of buckets.

604
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's talk a little bit about Shay. The

605
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: thunder rolled.

606
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: You ever heard that?

607
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: You ever seen that used in a headline all the time?

608
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: It's amazing thunder roll past. The Kings become the season's

609
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: first sixty win team. Only seven teams in NBA history

610
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: of one more games through their first seventy two games

611
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: of a season.

612
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: That's it.

613
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: And this is a very young okay see thunder team

614
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: obviously bringing it defensively, so they are just having a crazy,

615
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: crazy year. They now matched the twenty twelve thirteen Thunder

616
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: team that got to sixty wins, so they're going to

617
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: beat that and get the new franchise record. Though I'm

618
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: always confused is the franchise record still with Seattle or not,

619
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: because the ninety five ninety six SuperSonics won sixty four

620
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: back in the day.

621
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Speaker 3: I don't think they took the history.

622
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 2: I don't know, I never know.

623
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Speaker 3: I don't know. Do they have a gold on the

624
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: back of their jersey, right, I don't remember.

625
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 4: On basketball diference, Seattle is lumped into okay See, and.

626
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: That'll change once the Sonics get their team back.

627
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: I guess the getting probably anyway, this is an auto

628
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: team and it was okay Sees franchise record eleventh straight

629
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: road win, which ties the Cats for the longest road

630
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: winning streak this season.

631
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: They punk the Kings here. I'm sure you guys don't

632
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 2: have a.

633
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 3: Ton to say about this, but I got something you got.

634
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 3: It is a thunder roll, the Oklahoma City version of

635
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: a cavalanche or would you call it like a thunderclap?

636
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: Oh?

637
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: I like thunderclap.

638
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 3: Well, there was a lot of them in this game.

639
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,719
Speaker 3: Oklahoma City had a thirteen to two thunder clap at

640
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 3: the end of the first quarter, then a twenty to

641
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 3: seven thunder clap at the start of the second quarter.

642
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: Sacramento started chipping away. Yeah yeah, Greenberg on the call,

643
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 3: twenty three point lead down to sixteen. It doesn't sound great,

644
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: but they're making their way back. But then yet another

645
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: thunder clap, eight to zero run to end the second quarter.

646
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: Is a twenty two point game. At half, I say

647
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 3: good night, but apparently Sacramento actually got back in the game,

648
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 3: hit nine ten threes in the third quarter, went ten

649
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: for thirteen. They they were in transition the entire time,

650
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 3: cut the lead to single digits a couple of times,

651
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: but then another thunderclap ok see five oh to end

652
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: the third quarter, five oh to start the fourth quarter,

653
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: then another twelve oh run midway through. They just lock

654
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: in for like three minutes at a time, completely blow

655
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: out the other team twenty three to fourteen in fast

656
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: break points. And this is a game where both teams

657
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: were trying to play fast and Oklahoma City clearly had

658
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: the advantage. Our guy, Andrew Schlecht got on me yesterday.

659
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: He said, you said all of these guys were X factors.

660
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: They're just factors, and then he threw out Serge Ibaka

661
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: as an example, as if said Sergebaca wasn't an X factor. Nonetheless,

662
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 3: Isaiah Joe confirmed X factor. Fourteen points, four threes, also

663
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: three rebounds, three assists, and three steals. He was doing

664
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: other stuff besides just chucking. Kendridge Williams hit three threes,

665
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: Dort hit three threes, Caruso hit two threes. Jay will

666
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: once again hit two threes. Those are real X factors,

667
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: and they all came up positive in this one. On

668
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 3: the flip side, the Kings are now tied with Phoenix.

669
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: They're only a half game up on Dallas for the

670
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: tenth seed, though they do have the tiebreaker over both.

671
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 3: I think right now, but things are not good for

672
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: the Sacramento Kings. You got Zach Lavine after their previous

673
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: game saying the vibes are bad in the locker room,

674
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 3: so they ask kean analysis, like, actually, the vibes are

675
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: good in the locker room, they're bad on the court.

676
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's better, but they look really

677
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: bad right now, and I think they are the team

678
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: most in danger of falling out of the play and

679
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: even considering the MAVs, Like the MAVs are fighting, they

680
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: just might be undermanned in some of these games, Like

681
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 3: they couldn't even play Kessler Edwards another game because he's

682
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: running out of two way games. Yeah, but at least

683
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: they're competing in these games. The Kings, it looks like

684
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: they are just playing out the string a little bit

685
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: right now.

686
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would I would say they are definitely in

687
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 4: danger of falling out. I think that there's a legitimate

688
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 4: chance there. They only had one good quarter in this game.

689
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 4: At least they did come out of the locker room

690
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 4: and fight in that third quarter. And yeah, they just

691
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 4: don't have enough guys. Okay, see again, I think people

692
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 4: skip over you. No Jalen Williams, no Cason Wells, no

693
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 4: Aaron Wiggins. In this still they got enough guys. I

694
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 4: would love to hear or what Mark Dagnault says in

695
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 4: those meetings or in those huddles, I should say, you're

696
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: totally right. They just go on these three minute runs.

697
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 4: That's all they have to do, and that's what he

698
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 4: I'm sure he convinces them just to do. Just we

699
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 4: just need our thunder roll for three minutes here, boys,

700
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: and they bring it out every single fricking time because

701
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: they have so many guys that keep rolling. Alex Caruso

702
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 4: is the guy that always stands out to me because

703
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 4: I think if there's ani worry for okay, see in

704
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 4: the playoffs, it's is there enough of those guys that

705
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 4: have done it before? And Caruso is now he's an

706
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: old guy in the NBA and he's definitely done before

707
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: as an NBA Champion with Los Angeles. Jersey's thirty one.

708
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 4: So he just comes off the bench and provides that stability.

709
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 4: So he's going to be so huge. Well the Kings, Yeah,

710
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 4: they just don't have anything. Although a career high nine

711
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 4: threes for Keegan Murray, that's good, that's all. That's a

712
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 4: lot of threes.

713
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: That's a lot of He made maybe six in the

714
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: third quarter, Is that right?

715
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: That was on fire? They keep doing the key again, Murray.

716
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: I know this was on the road, but at home

717
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: when they're in Okay. See, they really should pipe in

718
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: some Garth Brooks when those eightal runs happened, those ten

719
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: o runs happened, those twelve ozer runs happened. When the thunderclaps,

720
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: when the thunder rolls, that's right, just play some Garth Brooks.

721
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: He's an Oki as well.

722
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: Ye right, it all works. Any other takeaways from last

723
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: night's NBA Action any other games you.

724
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Speaker 2: Want to touch on?

725
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. Portland was a team that there was some

726
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: hopes that they would make the plan doesn't look good anymore.

727
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: Cleveland finished them off. Although it was great to see

728
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 4: Donovan clinging. That guy's that guy is great defending a

729
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 4: shade and sharp dunk. That was nice, but unfortunately they're

730
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 4: not going to make it anyways. When season for them

731
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 4: in a weird way, here's a weird one Memphis beat

732
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 4: Utah dropped one hundred and forty points on Utah. Isaiah Collier,

733
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 4: the twenty nine pick in this draft. He doesn't shoot threes,

734
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 4: but in this one career highs made threes, career highs attempted.

735
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 4: He just doesn't look like a guy who shoots them.

736
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 4: But he's just getting better as the season goes on.

737
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Speaker 4: And I thought that the Raptors won the tray when

738
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 4: they traded the pick that ended up being Isaiah Collier,

739
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 4: because they got a pick in the Pascal Siakam deal

740
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 4: that ended up being Isaiah Collier. They turned it around

741
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 4: and traded that pick and Kyri Lewis and Otto Porter

742
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 4: to the Utah Jazz for O Chayabaji and Kelly Olinik.

743
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 4: I thought, oh, Chaiabaji, he's going to be the best

744
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 4: player in this trade. He's a solid he's a solid

745
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 4: rotation player. But Isaiah Collier might be the best player

746
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: in that trade. He's looking great and he's going to

747
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 4: be their starting point guard for Utah. For for a while.

748
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 4: Sure seems like because Knte George is a is a benchman.

749
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Speaker 4: It feels like at this point of his career, at

750
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 4: the very least, he's ahead of Kyante George. We'll see

751
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 4: where they end up in the draft lottery, because I

752
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 4: think like if they were to get Dylan Harper, he's

753
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 4: going to be starting over Isaiah Collier.

754
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: But Calier has been good though. The Jazz have lost

755
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: thirteen of their last fourteen games. And kJ Martin shot

756
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 3: one of the worst air balls I ever see in

757
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: this game. You could hear him call sure, so much love, fantastic.

758
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: When you know what's left or right, you're always good

759
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 3: for and this one was short and it was left.

760
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 3: He shot it from I guess the right corner three

761
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 3: point line and he maybe hit the restricted area circle.

762
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was off, he shout shooting.

763
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Speaker 1: Also, the Grizzlies I think made NBA history last night

764
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: by having two excuse me, nine guys hit two or

765
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: more three pointers in the same game. Guys, they had

766
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: nine guys hit multiple threes in one game. Jared Jackson,

767
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: Junr Eldama, Jalen Wells, Desmond Baine, Scottie Pippen, Jr.

768
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: Jay Huffly hit one. What's wrong with you?

769
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: Huff Zach e Edy hit two, conchar Luke Kennard and

770
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:51,479
Speaker 1: another great country singer Vince Williams or he had three.

771
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: Everyone else was hitting two. It's I mean, if Huffin

772
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: hit one, more than be ten guys with multiple threes? Wild. Yeah,

773
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: Jazz are very bad? Right?

774
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: Do you have any games you want to address?

775
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 3: The Magic squeaked by the Hornets thirty two points for Polow.

776
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 3: He's had four straight games with thirty or more and

777
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: the Magic went three and one of those games kind

778
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: of steadying the ship. They've had a lot of games

779
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 3: where Polo and Franz are both scoring thirty points and

780
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 3: the rest of their team is like nine and they

781
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: lose it, and you're like, what's going on here? At

782
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 3: least they're winning these ones now. I thought Anthony Black

783
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 3: also had a good game, and this one so good

784
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 3: stuff from the Magic to kind of get back on

785
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: the right foot as they're getting here close to the

786
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 3: play in tournament and uh.

787
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: Jalen Green scored thirty two as the Rockets beat the

788
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: Hawks won twenty one one fourteen, so they strengthened their

789
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: hold on the number two seed in the West. The

790
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: Rockets did with that win, They're forty seven to twenty six.

791
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: Rockets are going to be very likely having a fifty

792
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: win season. Here, this's a really good season. They are

793
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: two games ahead of Denver now, who didn't play last night.

794
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: They've won ten of their last eleven. You know, Van

795
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: Vliet's rounding into form here a bit. This is a

796
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: weird game. They got up huge, sort of gave it

797
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: all back and it got a little dicey, But then

798
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: you got Fred van Vliet, who can always step to

799
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: the free throw line knockdown free throws to ice a game.

800
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: So good one in there from the Rockets, so it

801
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: was sort of impressed.

802
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: The Hawks at least got back into it.

803
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna roll over and die in

804
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: this one, for sure, But Houston man ten of their

805
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: last eleven, and I know it's not like the toughest

806
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: part of their schedule, but they're taking care of business.

807
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: Everybody thought they were gonna get knocked out of the

808
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 3: two seed for sure, and they've been able to string

809
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: some wins together here in the second half of the

810
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: Season's kind of similar to what they did last year.

811
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: The only difference is last year they were eleventh trying

812
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: to get to tenth. Yeah, here their second trying to

813
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: hold on with veteran teams chasing them down. So pretty

814
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: impressive to actually stay where they are. Because I'm with you,

815
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 3: I think they'll probably hang on to two. They're two

816
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 3: games up on Denver. I think they still have at

817
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: least one more game to play against each other, maybe

818
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: even two, so those could be big. I think they

819
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 3: got a game against the Lakers as well. The question

820
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: will be come playoff time, because teams are going to

821
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: be angling to play against the Rockets in the first round.

822
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even if it's a playing team, it's probably

823
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: going to be a pretty damn good team. If it's

824
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: the Wolves, the Warriors, the Clippers, of those varieties, they

825
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: are good squads.

826
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 4: They are very very good regular season team. We'll see

827
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 4: what they can bring in terms of fourth quarter scoring

828
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 4: in the playoffs. Who's gonna do it? Yeah, they do

829
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 4: have that one game left against the Denver Nuggets, which

830
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 4: will dictate that tiebreaker because they're Type one. It's the

831
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 4: last day of the season, Sunday, April thirteenth, That day

832
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 4: when all the games start at the same time, I

833
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 4: think they do.

834
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: Oh, they do something like that.

835
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 4: All thirty teams play that day, that's for sure, right,

836
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 4: And yeah, is it.

837
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: At I thought it was like two times or sometimes lots.

838
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has been at least Yeah, I haven't checked

839
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: the schedule. It's a lot of basketball, for sure. All right,

840
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: let's get into the up Down Report. I'll tell you

841
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: right now if you're a fan of the Updown Report,

842
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing some Up Down Atlanta edition questions

843
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: at our live show on Thursday night. That will be

844
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: a blast. We always have fun doing that at the

845
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: live shows. But we're talking basketball here.

846
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 2: First one.

847
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: We addressed it briefly yesterday, but Bucks head coach Doc

848
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: Rivers fired back at criticism that he's received for his

849
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: teams blowing three to one series leads in the NBA

850
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: playoffs throughout his career. Quote, it is what it is,

851
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: Doc told our guy Mark Spears. It's part of my legacy.

852
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: There's nothing I can do about it. I got a

853
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: team that was an eight seed up three to one.

854
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 1: That is coaching. That is not bad coaching. The one

855
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: with the Clippers is the only one that got away.

856
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: I'll end quote there. He had more to say, no,

857
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: I would ask Doc, well, which Clippers?

858
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? I have an idea, but

859
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: which one?

860
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: Anyway, Doc Rivers has, I guess infamously blown multiple three

861
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: one series leads, and he's saying it's unfair. So are

862
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: you up or down? Tasks on Rivers calling out this

863
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: unfair criticism for blowing all these three one leads?

864
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 4: Way down, It is unfortunate. Listen, when you're up three

865
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 4: to one in this series, all you gotta do is

866
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: win one of the next three games. It ain't that freakin'

867
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 4: hard when you think about it like that. Okay, so

868
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 4: you lose the first one, you try and make it

869
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 4: up in the second one that goes down as a loss. Well,

870
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 4: the third game you just got. You just gotta win one.

871
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 4: It's all you gotta do. When you are the only

872
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 4: coach in NBA history to lose three three to one

873
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 4: series leads three, Not only are you the only coach

874
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 4: to lose three to blow three leads, you're the only

875
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 4: coach to blow multiple leads in NBA history, and that

876
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 4: is that's just something you're gonna take on your resume forever.

877
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: But Doc's saying, I shouldn't even have been up three

878
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 2: to one in a lot of cases.

879
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: That's literally what he's trying to do.

880
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 4: He's talking about the Orlando we're talking about.

881
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: He like really was pretty outamant about two of them.

882
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: It's sort of even amazing. We were up three one.

883
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: That was the good coaching. Yeah we lost, but come on,

884
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: give me my flowers for that.

885
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: You got to give him a little props for the

886
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 3: three Magic ones. Okay, I think he's a little right

887
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: on that one. They were forty two and forty. They

888
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 3: took a three to one lead on the Pistons, who

889
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: were the one seed, and they were on their upswing

890
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: like they would go. I think they went to the

891
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: conference finals. In this one, Doc has lied and said

892
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: that they won the championship this year. They did not,

893
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: but they were on their way to a championship eventually.

894
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: And you go back and you look at that roster,

895
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: which is also something Doc has said. He just literally

896
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 3: trashing the players he had. Gordon Gearacheck. You expect me

897
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: to live with Gordon gear Check is kind of what

898
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: it comes out to. But uh yeah, I'm up on

899
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 3: this just because I think it's hilarious. You get Steven A.

900
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 3: Smith saying Doc has told me all of this, and

901
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 3: I said, don't say that publicly. That is the second

902
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: time Doc has said it publicly. He said it back

903
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: in two thousand and two as well. He mentions all

904
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: the magic stuff. He mentioned Chris Paul getting hurt, and

905
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: then he's like, yeah, we did botch the bubble. But

906
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 3: guess what, that one wasn't really my fault either, because

907
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 3: all the players said they didn't want to be there.

908
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 3: Go listen to Lit Williams on a podcast.

909
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right. He always does have an excuse, got

910
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: a lot of got a reason. He's got an out

911
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: in his mind, at least for why it went the

912
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: way it did. Right, And there was I saw a

913
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: clip of Shannon Sharp yesterday saying, hey, Mark Spears, you

914
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: can't release this.

915
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: He was blaming.

916
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: Spears for like putting this out, Like, hey, you should

917
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: call Doc back and say, do you really want me

918
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: to put this in this article? That, like you think

919
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: it's unfair to get all this criticism for blowing three

920
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: one leads Like Mark Spears is a reporter, I mean

921
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: just obviously writing his article. I said, Doc knows it's

922
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 1: on the record, I sue, so very strange Yeah.

923
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 4: Another line that he had in this one, he said,

924
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 4: what if we had lost to Houston in six games?

925
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 4: No one cares? Yeah, because a four to two series

926
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 4: happens way more often. Losing a three to one series

927
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 4: lead has only happened thirteen times in NBA history.

928
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: So it makes it sound like everybody one. Seriously, that's

929
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: the funny part.

930
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 4: It's only happened thirteen times in every history.

931
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 3: He's done it three times.

932
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, not that I care, But of course that's gonna

933
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 4: make way more headlines in this world where all negative

934
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 4: lines make so much traffic and get you so many clicks.

935
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 4: Of course, three one comebacks only thirteen times, he's the

936
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 4: only guy to do it more than once. Of course,

937
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 4: it's we're going to talk about it. Yeah, it's hard.

938
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: To actually lose whose three straight elimination games. This is

939
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: why you're being criticized because it doesn't happen all that often.

940
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: I mean, and kudos to you.

941
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: You got your teams in that position, but you failed

942
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: to cross the finish line. You didn't run through the tape,

943
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: you didn't you pulled up. Yeah, exactly, so great coach,

944
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: though great coach, wasn't he voted one of the greatest

945
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: coaches of all time, Top fifteen coach.

946
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a top all the time.

947
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean like he's a Hall of Fame coach. He

948
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: won a championship obviously with them Celtics. I think he's

949
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: fourth all time in playoff wins. He's very high on

950
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: the list. He's been coaching for a long time. And

951
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: I think the reason this article was written is isn't

952
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: he passing Phil Jackson soon?

953
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

954
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why this articles.

955
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

956
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: Basically, Okay, good one, Doc Rivers, all right, next one here.

957
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: Last week, Demarta Rosen became the twenty seventh player in

958
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: NBA history to score twenty five thousand career points with

959
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: a patent in mid range jumper. He joins Lebron, Durant,

960
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: hard and Westbrook and Curry as the only active players

961
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: to reach twenty five thousand career point. Those guys will

962
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 1: all be Hall of famers, no doubt. But what about

963
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: Derozen up or down tk Demarta Rosen's Hall of Fame chances?

964
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 3: I think up, he's a lock. Demarta Rosen's getting in

965
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 3: twenty five thousand points is basically a guaranteed invite. Twenty

966
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: players have done it and are retired. They're all in

967
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. Carmelo Anthony is in between being

968
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 3: retired and being an active player. He's done it. He'll

969
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 3: get in the Hall of Fame. The six active guys

970
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: who have done it are DeRozan, and then it's Lebron,

971
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant, James Harden, Steph Curry, Russell Westbrook. The guy's

972
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 3: average twenty points per game for twelve straight seasons. Tomarta Rosen,

973
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 3: six time All Star, three time All NBA. You get

974
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 3: into the six time All Stars, and then you're getting

975
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: some question marks like Jimmy Butler, Kyle Lowry, Amari Stadamira,

976
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: Sean Kemp, Jermaine O'Neil. That's like kind of the line

977
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: I think right after Lowry. Not a ton of playoff

978
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: success for Demarta Rosen made it to the twenty sixteen

979
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: Conference finals with the Raptors, but has won a total

980
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: of four playoff series in fifteen seasons. That's not all

981
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: that crazy, but twenty five thousand points that gets you in.

982
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 4: Absolutely, he is one hundred percent in. He's got twenty

983
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 4: five thousand points. Now, I think he's going to finish

984
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 4: with more than thirty thousand points.

985
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: In his career.

986
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 4: I think it's easy to do without many threes made,

987
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 4: but that's a huge part of it. You never hit

988
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 4: one hundred threes in his career because once you get

989
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 4: to those active guys who are now hitting threes, there's

990
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 4: going to be more eventually that get to that point.

991
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 4: But with his durability, I think that's a part of it.

992
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 4: He's going to get to thirty thousand. This is a

993
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 4: sixteen season. Longevity matters. I think he's going to get

994
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: to twenty years if he plays four more years. I'm

995
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 4: prognosticating thinking that he's going to do it. But he

996
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 4: just seems like a very, very, very durable guy. So

997
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: how do you keep a guy out who makes thirty

998
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 4: thousand points or who gets to thirty thousand points. I

999
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 4: don't think that it's even possible. I know the discussion

1000
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 4: is now the baseline in Hall of Famers. Well, if

1001
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 4: Michael Hooper is in the Demarto Rosen, he get it.

1002
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 4: That's not even a conversation here, because this guy could

1003
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 4: get thirty thousand points. He could literally finish top ten

1004
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 4: ish in terms of NBA players ever in points, So

1005
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 4: he gets in. I know, yeah, he doesn't have a

1006
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 4: lot of accolades, of course, not a lot of playoffs success,

1007
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 4: of course, But when he scored thirty thousand points, you're

1008
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 4: freaking one of the best. That's it.

1009
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. The biggest knock about putting De Rozeen in the

1010
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame is that when it came to MVP votes,

1011
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: I think the highest he ever finished was like eighth right,

1012
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: So he's never like an elite number top or a

1013
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: top five guy in the league. And that was on

1014
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: the fifty nine win Raptors. And I don't love that

1015
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: DeRozan scoring and his efficiency. It all went down in

1016
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: the postseason like almost every single time, and that's a

1017
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: huge knock and part of the reason why the lack

1018
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: of playoff success. But when you compare another guys, like

1019
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, Mitch Richmond does come to mine, six time

1020
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: All Star, five time All NBA. Now, he won Rookie

1021
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: of the Year, he got gifted a title at the

1022
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: end of his career, obviously being put on the Lakers team.

1023
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: But Mitch scored over twenty thousand points, so he was

1024
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,479
Speaker 1: a scorer. That's DeRozan. Joe Johnson sort of comes to mind.

1025
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: He made a lot of All Star teams didn't have

1026
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: as many All NBASS. He also eclipsed twenty thousand points. Again,

1027
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 1: we're at twenty five thousand here with Derozen. But man,

1028
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: when you want to compare de rozen his career to

1029
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: another Hall of famer, I think it's jazz legend Adrian Dantley.

1030
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: It's sort of wild how similar their careers are. The

1031
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: more I dug into it, even their builds sort of

1032
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 1: being like that sixty five sixty six sort of scoring machine.

1033
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: Danty scored over twenty three thousand points and when he

1034
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: retired he was like a top ten scorer of all time.

1035
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: Now that's obviously he's you know, plummeted sort of down

1036
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: the list as all these scoring numbers have skyrocketed here.

1037
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: But I thought that was interesting.

1038
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: Danty was a six time All Star, just like Derozen.

1039
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: He was two time All MBA. DeRozan made three. You

1040
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: said trade, but Dantley played in a majority of his

1041
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: time when there was only two All NBA selections. I

1042
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: gotta assume he would have made a couple more All

1043
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: NBA teams. And then here's the part which is really wild.

1044
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: He was obviously traded to a very good Pistons team

1045
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: in eighty six and they played. He played two seasons

1046
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: with them, and they came up short both times. They

1047
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: lost to Larry Bird and the eighty seven conference finals

1048
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: the Pistons did in seven games, and then the following

1049
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: season they went to the finals and lost to Magic

1050
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: Johnson and the Lakers in seven games.

1051
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 2: And so what happens.

1052
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: Crazy, just like DeRozan being traded for Kawhi Leonard sort

1053
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: of the missing piece.

1054
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 2: To get them over the hump.

1055
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: Part of it Lebron leaving the conference too, but they

1056
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: traded Dantley to the Mavericks and got markacguire back, and

1057
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: that was like that helped. Obviously, the Pistons then win

1058
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: two in a row, so Dantley doesn't win any with them,

1059
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: and that's sort of similar to Kawi. They're obviously being

1060
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: the big piece to get Kawhi Leonard. So I thought

1061
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: man comparable. But he's in, and I'm with you.

1062
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: Guys, I think the Rozan's gonna get in ultimately too.

1063
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 3: If he gets a thirty thousand, that's a no brainer.

1064
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: If his career ended today, I don't think he's first ballot.

1065
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 3: Probably depends on money retires and who's else. That's a

1066
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 3: big part of it. But I do wonder if going

1067
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: forward the benchmarks will change. Players come into the league

1068
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: more ready to play, They come in younger, and they

1069
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 3: play much longer. Cares like, it's amazing that Lebron is

1070
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 3: at twenty two seasons. We're going to see guys playing

1071
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 3: twenty plus seasons regularly now, Like it wouldn't be a

1072
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 3: surprize for Derozen to get to twenty seasons at all

1073
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: at sixteen.

1074
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 4: This is number sixteen.

1075
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's a craft guy. Like he came in

1076
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 3: as an athlete, but he's really a craft guy at

1077
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 3: this point. It doesn't seem like he's slowing down and

1078
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 3: doing kind of the same thing. Twenty thousand points used

1079
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: to be the guarantee to get in, and you look

1080
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 3: at that, it's all the guys that are in that

1081
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 3: we mentioned earlier, plus Chris Paul he's getting in, Damian Lillard,

1082
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: he's getting in. But then you start getting question mark.

1083
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: It's like LaMarcus Aldridge, Anton Jamison, Joe Johnson, Tom Chambers.

1084
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 3: I wonder if twenty five thousand points is now going

1085
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 3: to become like the twenty thousand points of the past.

1086
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: I one hundred percent think. So I put this question

1087
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: DeRozan Hall of Fame chances to Twitter and YouTube and

1088
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: they were basically identical. The results on Twitter fifty seven

1089
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: percent said yes, so fifty seven split, you know, saying

1090
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: ultimately he'll get in, and then YouTube was fifty six percent,

1091
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: so again almost the exact same. And there was a

1092
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: lot of votes on that one, a lot of comments,

1093
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: a lot of great comments, both people making the case

1094
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: for de Rosen and people saying, no, I'm sorry, he's

1095
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: like the Hall of very good type of guy, and

1096
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: he's right there because it's like you're saying, it's like

1097
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: the DeRozan line, where you know, with some of those names, you.

1098
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 4: Said, yeah, but the threshold. Now it's not even about points,

1099
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 4: it's just about the storyline that year. Like Michael Cooper,

1100
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 4: we just saw him go into the Hall of Fame.

1101
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 4: That's seventy seven career seventy seven hundred career points.

1102
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: Right, but a defensive yes, genius.

1103
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 4: Of course, right. So yes, it's just a good story.

1104
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 4: But he gets in so much later because he doesn't

1105
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 4: go in with an incredible crop of players, you know,

1106
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 4: So it's all about that storyline. Lamar is getting in though.

1107
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 3: Fun guy to have on your team. Hat's fun to

1108
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 3: roof liked, Yeah, well liked. I did a lot for

1109
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 3: raising awareness for mental health as well. Him and Kevin

1110
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 3: Love were kind of instrumental in bringing awareness to the

1111
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 3: NBA sphere. And just seems like a good teammate. Like

1112
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 3: all of the young guys from the Bulls love him.

1113
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: I know it was the same with the Raptors, Like

1114
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 3: he just seems likable and good to have around, and

1115
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 3: it's awesome to see him hitting game winning jump shots

1116
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: for your team. But then are also like, how come

1117
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 3: we're always playing these clutch games? Man? Why don't we

1118
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 3: ever win a lot?

1119
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 2: You know, let's hear from you.

1120
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: You got Demorto Rosen going into the Hall of Fame

1121
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: sound off there in the stream.

1122
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: Team next one here, Steph Curry tricked us.

1123
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. Days after going viral for appearing to swish a

1124
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: beyond full court shot from the opposite tunnel inside the

1125
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: Chase Center, a new angle of Curry's heave has revealed

1126
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: his ball connected with the net but did not go

1127
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: through the whop oh my goodness upper down on Steph's

1128
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: viral full court shot getting exposed as a miss.

1129
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 4: Well, it's in up for sure, because that's a great angle.

1130
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 4: I mean, I was sold. I was sold when Steph

1131
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 4: Curray grabbed that belt buckle. It looked like he grabbed

1132
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 4: his short drawstring and just was bragging about putting it in.

1133
00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: So you think he thought he put it in.

1134
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he doesn't just grab his drawstrack and walk

1135
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 4: around like he's a Texas cowboy because he thought he missed.

1136
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 4: It looked. I can't believe how good it looked. But

1137
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 4: it was really like a good six inches off.

1138
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but just straight as an arrow. Yeah, heaving

1139
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: it from whatever that is almost one hundred.

1140
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 4: Feet Yeah, and it looks like.

1141
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: He's grabbing that celebration is funny. Yeah.

1142
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 4: The curve on that ball, it is crazy how it

1143
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 4: goes left to right. And then we got somebody who's

1144
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 4: in the crowd essentially Wow, Yeah, it.

1145
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 2: Is quite short. You're right, it just hits the net perfectly.

1146
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, six inches that's too much. It's not that much

1147
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 4: in front, but it's yeah, it ain't close really sort

1148
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 4: of you know, up.

1149
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: Or down on this being exposed as a miss.

1150
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 3: Okay, now I'm up as well, greatest shooter of all

1151
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 3: time doesn't need camera tricks to prove he's the greatest

1152
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 3: shooter of all time, and more motivation to keep shooting

1153
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 3: it until he makes it because Steph Curry will make it.

1154
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: Mm.

1155
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 3: He understands it now.

1156
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: Good point.

1157
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 3: Unless it's halftime of an All Star Saturday Night, He's

1158
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 3: gonna make that shot as a trick shot. I you know,

1159
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 3: when you first saw that clip going around before we

1160
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 3: had the alternate angle that showed it with short.

1161
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: It's like it sucks because you're like, Okay, I think

1162
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: it went in. But then I'm like, is this doctored?

1163
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: This saw like a power Raid commercial? You know what's

1164
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: going on here? Did he do perfect this or not?

1165
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I don't know what the trust anymore.

1166
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 3: I can't trust anything.

1167
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: That's where we are. But now we got that second shot.

1168
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: That's great, great reporting. Somebody was somebody was sitting on that.

1169
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 3: Would you have been happier if we never saw the

1170
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: second shot and just thought it was just thought, well,

1171
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 3: thought it went in, but couldn't be completely sure.

1172
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: Mmmm?

1173
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: But we live in a surveillance state.

1174
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 2: No, no, I want the truth.

1175
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 3: You want the truth?

1176
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? I can handle it. Needed a review, yeah, yeah, no,

1177
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: it's good, it's perfect. It was the perfect shot. There

1178
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: was one was it as a bookie that was standing

1179
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: right by Curry there. I'm not sure who it was,

1180
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: but you can. I've seen his foot because he's filming.

1181
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: Actually you might see it for a second in that

1182
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: one part where you see him heave it up close,

1183
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: but then he turns and like it's too far away.

1184
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he has the perfect pregame shots where he's

1185
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 4: you know, bouncing, get in the lane, goes five hundred

1186
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: feet into the air and it goes in. Oh like,

1187
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 4: that's why I was sold.

1188
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 1: That's why you have to believe it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,

1189
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: you could hit probably two out.

1190
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: Of five of those. Yeah, it's pretty crazy, all right.

1191
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: Final one here in the updown report, Cooper Flag showed

1192
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: no effects returning from a scary left ankle injury to

1193
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: help Duke get past Mount Saint Mary's and Baylor while

1194
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: posting thirty two points, sixteen boards, ten assists, and three

1195
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 1: blocks in fifty one games, sorry, in fifty one minutes

1196
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: over the two games. So the next big test comes

1197
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: on Thursday when they take on number one Blue Devil's

1198
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:48,479
Speaker 1: take on number four Arizona the Wildcats up or down

1199
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: so far on Cooper Flag's March Madness run.

1200
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 3: He's good. Yeah, my Flag is pretty good. I mean

1201
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 3: two uncompetitive games for Duke right here, but sixteen points

1202
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 3: a game, eight rebounds, five and a half assists, one

1203
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 3: and a half blocks. He totally took it to VJ.

1204
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 3: Edgecombe when they were actually matched up against Baylor. Just

1205
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: look too big. You definitely see the Kawhi Leonard comparisons,

1206
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 3: I think when you're watching him, just because like Cooper's

1207
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 3: not the most explosive athlete, nor is he like the

1208
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: smoothest athlete. I think a lot of his offense looks

1209
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 3: methodical like Kawhi's. Sometimes even mechanical. It's like I've learned

1210
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 3: this move and it's gonna work because i know it's

1211
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 3: gonna work, and I'm big enough and I'm strong enough,

1212
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: I've got the touch to finish inside. But he does

1213
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: have all of that. He's got the smarts that Kawhi

1214
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 3: has too, Like you can see the way he attacks

1215
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 3: different players like edge Comb. He's like, I'll just shoot

1216
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 3: over the top of you. You're too small to defend me.

1217
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 3: The other guys, he's gonna have to work inside a

1218
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 3: little bit more and score. I'm also really impressed with

1219
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 3: the activity. The guy is just all over the court

1220
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 3: at all times on both ends. He cuts and he's

1221
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 3: really unselfish five and a half assists. He's finding mallowatch

1222
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 3: for lobbs all the time, easy dunks for him. So

1223
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 3: it'll be cool to see him go against Arizona. They've

1224
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 3: got a pretty good wing defender in Carter Bryant, who

1225
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 3: I imagine will probably stick Cooper a little bit, and

1226
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 3: that's an elevated level of competition. Let's see how he

1227
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 3: plays against him.

1228
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, he seems smart in that game that got them

1229
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 4: here to the sixteen or the sweet sixteen, where he's

1230
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 4: scored in that first half fifteen points, but then he's

1231
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 4: comfortable getting everybody else involved in the second half.

1232
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, strives me.

1233
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: How really good he is for a big dude, and

1234
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: how he can handle it and put him in pick

1235
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: and roll and he pushes the ball in transition, stuff

1236
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: like that.

1237
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he could have easily just pushed his own his

1238
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 4: own complication or his own scoring in this tournament. We

1239
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 4: he just said, all right, I mean I'll just score

1240
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 4: three in the second half, and I'll just get everybody

1241
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 4: else involved. So he just knows his game and Tyre's

1242
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 4: practor is banging home three seven threes for that guy,

1243
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 4: and he obviously looks extremely healthy, so that's the important Yeah,

1244
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 4: and he actually, I mean, he had foul trouble in

1245
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 4: that game that got against Baylor in that first half,

1246
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 4: two quick fouls, but that's all he had for the

1247
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 4: end of the entire game because he's just a smart guy.

1248
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 2: Do you think he's gonna go number one?

1249
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,240
Speaker 4: I think it's warranted.

1250
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, will he come into the draft if I don't know,

1251
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 3: the Wizards or Hornets get the number one pick, But

1252
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 3: you know that's coming, you know, at least the debate

1253
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 3: of like that happening and everybody going, ah, maybe he shouldn't.

1254
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: Come, maybe you wait, maybe you wait. We'll see he's good,

1255
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: really really good. And yeah. Sweet sixteen starts on Thursday,

1256
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: some of it here in Atlanta as we host some

1257
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: of these games at State Farm.

1258
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 3: All right, So the first year salary of the number

1259
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 3: one overall draft pick is eleven point five million dollars.

1260
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought it was even more.

1261
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 3: Well, I think he can sign up to one hundred

1262
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 3: and twenty percent, so maybe add another twenty percent onto

1263
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 3: that as well. I don't know the nil rules, but

1264
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 3: that's a lot of money to play for a guy

1265
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 3: in college. So I think he's gonna go pro. I

1266
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 3: just wonder if he's gonna wear a shirt when he

1267
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 3: gets to the NBA. Is he gonna be a shirt guy?

1268
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: Is he going to be a shirt guy?

1269
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 3: Been tracking shirts a lot lately on playback. Yeah, Anthony Davis,

1270
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 3: shirt guy who went number one? Can happen. He's a

1271
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 3: sweaty guy. They've got him in one of those like,

1272
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 3: uh something out of fish out of water commercials. I

1273
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 3: forget which one it is, but he's playing bingo and

1274
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 3: it's like, look at how hyped up this guy is.

1275
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 3: And they have him sweating even in that commercial, right,

1276
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 3: And I've seen him leave games this season because he's

1277
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 3: cramping too hard from sweating so much. He might need

1278
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 3: to stick with the shirt for the wicking property.

1279
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 2: That's interesting.

1280
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you if you're a sweaty guy, you

1281
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: think it's beneficial to wear a shirt because it SOPs

1282
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: up the sweat, But then you could also argue, isn't

1283
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: it making you sweatier?

1284
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1285
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 2: It's twenty two. Yeah, yeah, get on those shoulder get.

1286
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: Some hair on those shoulders, maybe a cool down some

1287
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 3: I think.

1288
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: He is gonna be a shirt guy. I'm gonna call

1289
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: it right now. There's more and more of them.

1290
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 3: What's the odds on bet MG and will Cooper flag

1291
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 3: be a shirt guy? Minus one?

1292
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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: All right, so that's the upped out report. Let's get

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Speaker 1: to tonight's pick him. You already teased it. Task it's clips,

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00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: it's Nicks. What's the line?

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00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 4: Is going to Madison Square? Garden are favored by one

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00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 4: and a half, so it's essentially a pick. Who's winning

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00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 4: this game? The New York Knicks at home to La.

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00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 4: The Knicks on a back to back. Two of you

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00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 4: think that the Knicks will take care at home? Skeets

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00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 4: and esh Well, Trey and myself, they got the clips.

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00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 4: I did the injury report, of course. I go to

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00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 4: my favorite website. Will the Clippers play dot com? Is

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00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 4: anyone no? No, I got a better site. Is anyone

1305
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 4: injured on the Clippers dot com? That's a way better site.

1306
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 4: Harden is questionable. We talked about that foot slash quad injury.

1307
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 4: He's stayed when loud Dort hit him the other day.

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00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 4: No Brunton obviously douce My Pride may not play, but

1309
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 4: Kawhi ain't on the report he should be playing. So

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00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 4: you know, we've got a pretty pretty good stock of

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00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 4: players on both sides. On both sides.

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Speaker 2: It's a tough one.

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00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 4: It is a tough one.

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Speaker 1: Why we're split here, Big one though, between Trey and Esh,

1315
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: you know, playing to get out a last place here

1316
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: for the month. Trey six and eleven, five, twelve, So

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00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: you got the clips, he's got the knicks. This could

1318
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: be big, so big one. Yeah, not many days left

1319
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: in March.

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00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 3: No, it's one of those long months though. Yeah, it's

1321
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 3: one of the longest. But yeah, Bob, yeah, back to

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00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 3: back for New York.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know for this.

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00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 3: I don't like to go against mister money Line though, yeah,

1325
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Speaker 3: I know.

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00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: I called that one last night. I called the money

1327
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: Line heat win, and I tried to walk it back

1328
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I felt good about the heat

1329
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: culture coming through, and they did it for Pat when

1330
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: one for Pat America's I said, they're pumped. All right,

1331
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens tonight. We'll call it there. We

1332
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: are back tomorrow here at the Classic Factory at ten am. Eastern.

1333
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: Then we're still here at the Classic Factory around one

1334
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: pm Eastern for No Buffs, our Survivor recap podcast. Then

1335
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: we're in a different place at the Seven Stages Theater

1336
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: for our live show on Thursday night at seven pm Eastern.

1337
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: Three shows tomorrow, and we'll say there will be no

1338
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: regular drop podcast on Friday, but we do hope to

1339
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: take Thursday night's live show and put it up on YouTube,

1340
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: put it up in your podcast feed.

1341
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 2: Fingers crossed, JD. Everything goes okay.

1342
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 4: Technically we'll be putting something.

1343
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: Gee, you would put a piece of crap. I'm saying,

1344
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: cameras go down, audio like, I don't think a lot

1345
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: would have to go ron yeah yeah yeah, but things

1346
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: could go round.

1347
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 2: That's our motto. No promise things could go wrong.

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01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: Come on, oh yeah yeah yeah, short it out.

1349
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 4: I never even thought that one.

1350
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 3: It's gonna be flying, JD.

1351
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: Pizza and sauce is gonna be flying at the Seventh

1352
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: Stages Theater. So that's the plan. We are here tomorrow

1353
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: morning at tending of Eastern. Hit the like button, subscribe

1354
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: podcast listers, five star ratings and reviews, then Survivor, then

1355
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: the live show, which we hope to have up on

1356
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: Friday for everybody out.

1357
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 2: There that can't attend the show till then, clever bro.

1358
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time turn up.

1359
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

1360
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. And remember I just got this news.

1361
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 4: Kawhi Leonard not playing against the Knicks tonight. Just kidding,

1362
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 4: just kidding. It isbelievable though, isn't it. Anyways, Kawi is

1363
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 4: good against the Knicks, thirteen and seven against the Knicks

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01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 4: in his career.

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01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're feeling good tonight, aren't you?

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01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 4: Sure?

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01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: Sure?

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01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 4: I do believe in the Clippers. I mean the Knicks

1370
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 4: just let everything happen against the Dallas Mavericks without Anthony

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01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:22,959
Speaker 4: Davis yesterday pretty much.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that's the The one concern is, like

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01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: you go from playing a Mavericks game, like you said,

1374
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: it was basically glorified pickup basketball for a while to

1375
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: a Clippers team that actually plays defense. A lot of

1376
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: people are playing for something too.

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01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: That's a concern.

1378
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: But I think the Knicks are going to do it.

1379
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: Mister money Las coming through.

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01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 2: We'll find out. We'll see you tomorrow morning. Brace the

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Speaker 2: eight People.