1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: If you want Colts talk all year long, you're in 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: the right place. Taylor hit Buddy Counts into the end zone, 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: touchdown in d Why how can we like you mentioned 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: as Pillars, as guys who are leaders on this team. 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: How can we turn that around? Play action? Now he's 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: in trouble and he's going to be brought down a 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: sack for the Colts. The fourth fucker back to the 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: twenty seven yard line. Never quit. I'm never not fault, 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm never not compete and I would always the team 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: to be a great, great leader, great competitor. And now 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: he checks it down the left side looking for the 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: end zone for Alec Pears. Dad, He's got it, touchdown, 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: Alec Pears. This is the Official Colts podcast, giving you 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: an updated look at what's new with the Horseshoes in 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio. Let's get the 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: podcast started. Hello, what a great time of year. This 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: is welcome to the Colt's Official podcast, brought you by 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: your friends at win BET. I'm Jeffrey Gorman, Voice of 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: the Colts, Matt Taylor is here and from Colts dot 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: Com senior writer JJ Stakobitz, I'm gonna stick with that title. 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it later down the road. Some have 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: said you put the senior on him when you shouldn't, 23 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: But the kid is good. I'm gonna tell you that 24 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: I love jj Stako. It's most of the year, but 25 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: I really like him this time. He here, Jeffrey thinks 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: you deserve something. By God, you you get it. I mean, 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: I love it. I'm telling you he can go to 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: the fifty you know, the practice squad of the Cleveland 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: Browns from last year and say this is a good 30 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: player that with you know, team should look at and 31 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Well, no dissecting the free agents. I 32 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: love it. J Jeffrey walks in the radio studio and 33 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: he goes, all right, tell me about that center from Minnesota. 34 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: I don't even know if you were talking about anyone specifically, 35 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: And I go, oh, John Michael Schmidts, that's him. That's him. 36 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: Don't know if he's gonna be a second rounder or 37 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: a seventh rounder, but he knows what he is. All right. Listen, 38 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: free agency frenzy is here. Here's the deal, guys. I 39 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: want to lay down the rules of this thing. Wednesday 40 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: at four fifty nine Eastern that's when it will start 41 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: a fish or when when it will end. It started 42 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: Monday at nude and ends on Wednesday at the two 43 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: day negotiation period. But my point is you can sign 44 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: free agents after that four or fifty nine on Wednesday. 45 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: Deal like this, in this first two days, what are 46 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: we seeing. We are seeing deals get agreed to, but 47 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: they cannot be executed. So an agent no Monday, not 48 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: a ficial agent, and a team can agree two terms, 49 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: but that contract cannot be signed until the start of 50 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: the new league here at four pm on Wednesday. It's 51 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: kind of like the Panthers deal last Friday. It's like 52 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: a few years back, remember when Carson Wentz was traded 53 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: from the Eagles to the Colts. That was like in 54 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: mid February. Everybody knew about it, was reported out there, 55 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: but the Colts couldn't talk about it officially. It could 56 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: not become official from the Colts in the eyes of 57 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: the NFL. The show. I remember it by Wednesday at 58 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: four o'clock Eastern Colts quarterback and he just came maybe 59 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: hypothetically in the NFC even you would be great, wouldn't it. 60 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: We were just kind of giving those things like wouldn't 61 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: it be wonderful. We can't talk about your impression of you. No, 62 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: that's my impression of me acting dumb like we had 63 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: to for a couple of days talking about Carson. Wims 64 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: kept talking about it. But a good players coming in here. 65 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: Folks just turn on the cooking channel and they'll tell you. 66 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: But we can't talk about it. Listen, free agencies upon us. 67 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: But the big bomb was dropped the other day. Okay, 68 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: that meant the Carolina Panthers and Frank Right, I think 69 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: a big stick it right to the Colts said, hey, 70 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna jump up. We're gonna go get that number 71 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: one pick. Who knows what he does with that number 72 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: one pick because it's a new regime going on there 73 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: in Carolina. Quarterback. Yeah, that is gonna be on the 74 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: mind of the Frank Rice of Carolina what they're gonna do. 75 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: But that's the first big bomb that said, Hey, the 76 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: Colts approach to free agency dramatically change. Because the Bears 77 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: not in need of a quarterback at the time. We're looking, 78 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: what are they gonna do? Who are they gonna move to? Well, 79 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: Frank Rich and the Carolina Panthers, they stepped up I've 80 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: seen a lot of hand ringing over Oh, I can't 81 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 1: believe the Colts don't control the draft and they can't 82 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: go get their guy. Just because you get the number. 83 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: The first quarterback picked in the draft does not guarantee 84 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: that that quarterback is going to be any good or 85 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: any better than the second or the third best quarterback. 86 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: Look at the twenty eighteen NFL Draft, where there was 87 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: no consensus on who the top quarterback and that draft 88 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: was going to be until like three days before the draft, 89 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: and the Cleveland Browns took Baker Mayfield. The third quarterback 90 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: taken in that year's draft was Josh Allen, who was 91 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: the best quarterback in that draft. In twenty seventeen, the 92 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: Bears traded up one spot to get Mitch Drubisky because 93 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: they had to get their guy, and the second quarterback 94 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: taken that year was Patrick Mahomes. The third quarterback was 95 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson. It the last time the Colts traded up 96 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: to number one to get a quarterback. You know who 97 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: it was, the last time the Colts traded up to 98 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: number one to get a quarterback. We've done it once. 99 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: The guy we were talking about earlier, George belly Brooks 100 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: on that one day. Jeff George. Right, Jeff George a 101 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: cannon for an arm coming out of the University of Illinois, 102 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: great prospect. The Colts traded All Pro offensive tackle Chris Hinton, 103 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: who's in the Ring of Honor. They traded Andre Rice 104 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: and a nineteen ninety one first round pick to go 105 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: get Jeff George from the Atlanta Falcons with the number 106 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: one overall pick in nineteen ninety Did Jeff George work out? 107 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: That does not guarantee you anything? All right? Look at 108 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. We talked about that. That guy is like, 109 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: oh really, I really don't think honestly, Like I somebody's 110 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: gonna throw a tomato at their bluetooth speaker listening to 111 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: this right now. But I really don't think this change 112 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: is a lot for the Colts. I really don't, because 113 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: I still think it just depends on how Chris Ballard, 114 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: the Colts, Shane Steike, and the personnel staff, all of 115 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: that combine how it views the available quarterbacks. Right, because 116 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: the Colts can now move up to number three in 117 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: a trade with the Cardinals, the perceived third best quarterback, 118 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: because right the Panthers aren't moving up to number one 119 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: to not draft a quarterback. The Texans probably are drafting 120 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: a quarterback, so you can do that. You can stay 121 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: at number four, four and take whichever quarterback remains and 122 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: run the risk of another quarterback hungry team moving up 123 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: in front of you. That's another option. Another option, as 124 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: you stay at four, take the best player available, not quarterback, 125 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: and address quarterback later in the draft. Or you could 126 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: trade back from number four to accumulate more picks and 127 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: address quarterback later in the draft as well. So long 128 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: story short, it all boils down to the Colts evaluation 129 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: of the quarterback and if there's a guy worth moving 130 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: up for giving what it will cost you now to 131 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: go from four to three, and over the weekend on 132 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: Friday night when this all blew up, we've got our 133 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: answer on how the Colts felt about the price tag 134 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: of moving up from four to one. The price was 135 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: too big. The Colts didn't have the evaluation on these quarterbacks. 136 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: That fits what Chris Ballard said at the combine, which is, quote, 137 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: be no freaking doubt the guy. And obviously that's not 138 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: the case for the Colts in their evaluation. But if 139 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: the first two picks in this draft or quarterbacks. Now 140 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: it boils down to Jeffrey. Is there one quarterback that's 141 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: clearly better than the other between Guy three guy four 142 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: that would be worthy of moving up one spot And 143 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: if you do that right, you're probably still gonna have 144 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: to give up your first round draft pick for the 145 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: following year. So I don't know where we're at right now, 146 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: but I really don't think that the Panthers move last 147 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: Friday was as earth shattering as some people are making 148 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: it out to be. Yeah, agree, and think about it 149 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: this way. If the Bears asking price for the number 150 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 1: one overall pick involved, we want a number one wide 151 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: receiver in return. They got that in Dj Moore. If 152 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: you're the call and have you seen Dj morris contract 153 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: like it is is archaic based on what receivers are 154 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: asking for and getting really good money deal the but 155 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: fit matters so much. We talked about this on the 156 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: podcast last week. It matters so much for young quarterback 157 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: and Carolina is running a risk in trading Dj Moore 158 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: they already traded Christian McCaffrey last year, that the pieces 159 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: around whatever quarterback they take at number one overall will 160 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: not be substantial enough for to support that quarterback in 161 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: his development. If you're the Colts and the price was 162 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: trading Michael Pittman Junior, are you really doing that all right? 163 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: If you're trading housing yard receiver and what you have 164 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: on the roster right now, right? I mean he and 165 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: Alec Pierce are you're only reliable proving wide receivers. And 166 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: even then, you know Alec he's going into year two. 167 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: You know he can take a jump forward. Jilani can 168 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: take a jump forward. But Michael Pittman Junior is a 169 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: bona fide number one, number two, whatever you want to 170 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: call him. He's a top level wide receiver in the NFL. 171 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: And if the price was you have to trade him 172 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: to get the number one overall pick, then you're dropping 173 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: that quarterback into a worse situation and giving him less 174 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: of a chance to succeed. And you're doing that for 175 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback who, by the way, you might not even 176 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: think as the guy like we're just talking about, right, 177 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: So I don't this whole like, uh, cults are screwed. 178 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: No they're not. And I think you're right, mate, take 179 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it changed a whole lot because you 180 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: knew the Bears are gonna make that trade. And if 181 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: you're the coult sitting here like we really don't want 182 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: to do that, you already had contingencies in place. Yeah, 183 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: for all right, some team's gonna go up and get 184 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: the number one pick. What do we do now? This 185 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: didn't catch anyone in this building by surprise. I can't 186 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: imagine it did. Yeah to me, it just again, it 187 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: proves without the cults saying anything, actions or inactions in 188 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: this case speak louder than words. And there isn't a 189 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: guy that is worthy of going up and risking a 190 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: lot for because they all have some sort of degree 191 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: of red flag and they all can play, but they 192 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: all have the one thing that gives you pause a 193 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: little bit. But it and is the gap between the 194 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: number one and number three quarterback on your board worth 195 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: a number one overall pick or a first round pick 196 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four and Michael Pittman Jr. Is it 197 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: and the number thirty five overall pick. And going back 198 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: to the compensation, evidently the DJ Moore aspect of that 199 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: really helped tip it over the edge for the Bears 200 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: because they wanted it was all about giving justin fields 201 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: more proven receivers to help him on offense. And like 202 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: I said, his contract he signed through twenty twenty five 203 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: on a deal that's going to pay him an average 204 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: of seventeen million dollars a season. That's archaic in this 205 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: new wide receiver market. And Michael Pittman Junior is going 206 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: into year number four and if he has a really 207 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: good year, he might be able to command you know 208 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: what some of these top receivers are getting on the 209 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: open marketing free agency. I agree with JJ, you don't 210 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: want to trade him, And certainly if you're the Bears, 211 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: DJ Moore was a little bit more attractive because you 212 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: have him under contract for next couple of years and 213 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: you won't have to pay him like a top receiver 214 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: in that time. Let's get people throwing stuff at their 215 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: radios right now. Really, yeah, we're gonna move on because 216 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: it kicker in house, a big free agent signing. Where 217 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: gonna go an in house free agent signing, So real quick, guys, 218 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: if they stick at four and quarterback one two have 219 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: dropped in that first four picks and their guy isn't there, 220 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: or the guys that are left on the board are 221 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: mid to late first rounders or second round grades. They're 222 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: not taking them? Is that agreed on? What do you 223 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: think at a four pick that they got a fifteen 224 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: or beyond grade on a fifteen moving fifteen or farther. 225 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: This is always where position of need and that player 226 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: at another position having equal grading. And then when that's 227 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: the case, Chris Ballard has always said, I go with 228 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: the need, right, So where would the third or fourth 229 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: best quarterback rank compared to the best player at another 230 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: position on their board in the first Why I'm bringing 231 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: this up because there's some premiere defensive players in this 232 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: draft and JJ, I'm gonna go to you on this coach, fans, 233 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: who's our quarterback? Who's our quarterback? I'm not saying anything 234 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: about what I know in that war room because I don't, 235 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: But I'm saying, don't be surprised if a quarterback doesn't 236 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: go on the fourth overall pick. To thet You've got 237 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: three to four options here. Look, I mean it is 238 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: still more likely than not than the Colts are going 239 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: to take a quarterback fourth overall. But if you get 240 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: to a point in the draft where you're picking between yeah, guy, 241 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: like you said, Jeffrey, it's like kind of it's maybe 242 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: twentieth on our board versus the guy who's number one 243 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: on your board, and you think, holy Kyle, we're drafting 244 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: the next Reggie White. I mean, no one. It would 245 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: be weird to say no one would like drafting a 246 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame pass rusher, but people, I feel like 247 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: it'd be It would be kind of a It would 248 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: be panned around here, except in ten years he might 249 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: be like, boy, thank god, who dodged a bullet on 250 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: that one? Got this great pass rusher who's been here 251 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: for the last decade. Terrorize that move with a quarterback 252 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: who the Texans took and second overall. That move would 253 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: all be depended on what kind of career Will Levis 254 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: or Anthony Richardson end up having. And you wouldn't know 255 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: the answer to that and for another maybe decade. But look, 256 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately, you got to get the quarterback position right. 257 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: If you draft say Will Anderson fourth overall and he 258 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: turns out to be a Hall of Fame player and 259 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: that's great, you still got to get the quarterback right. 260 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: You still have to do that. Does that mean you 261 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: address it in twenty twenty four? Probably, But if you 262 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: also can't get it wrong, getting it wrong fourth overall 263 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: sets you back five years getting it right with maybe 264 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: not taking one and then taking one next year, or 265 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: finding a different solution that's maybe outside the box that 266 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: sets you up for success more than taking the wrong guy. 267 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: And I know no one wants to hear it because 268 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: the Colts haven't even tried to take the wrong guy 269 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. It's been this veteran 270 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: quarterback carousel. That worked out with Philip Rivers, it didn't 271 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: work with Carson, it didn't work with Matt Ryan. But 272 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: if you get a top five pick wrong on a quarterback, 273 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: that sets your franchise up in a worse spot than 274 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: kicking it down the road for a year. Okay, we're 275 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: gonna find out because a whole lot more is coming 276 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: out here. We're gonna, by the way, more conversations are 277 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: this are gonna happen in the weeks to come because 278 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: we're gonna be hearing stuff about this player. That we're 279 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: gonna hear stuff about this player. It was all Alabama 280 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: last week, then it's all Ohio State this week. So 281 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: that's what we have to get ready for. But let's 282 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: go over what we do know. I'm gonna start in house, matey, 283 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: let's go. EJ. Speeds stayed in the mix a couple 284 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: of year contract about four million year or for eight 285 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: four million year over two two? Yeah yeah yeah, nice arithmetic, Gorman, 286 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: a lot of numbers. Four million a year times two anyway. EJ. 287 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: Speed staying in house, Taekwon Lewis coming off the patella injury. 288 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: Second one, don't forget he stayed in house. Not a 289 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: huge spending on that. So guys, give me your once 290 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: over on these real quick. I'll start with EJ. Speed 291 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense because everybody thought that the 292 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: Colts are gonna lose Bobby Okak and free agency. That's 293 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. That's exactly would happen. But three 294 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: top level linebackers with Shack Leonard coming back, Zaire Franklin 295 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: coming back, both guys under contract, knowing what you're paying 296 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: Shack Leonard. Just the investment there at one position. I 297 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: don't know if it made a lot of sense for 298 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: the Colts, but gives you a lot of position flexibility 299 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: with EJ. Speed coming back. He can play all three 300 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: linebacker positions. He's a really good backup linebacker for Shack 301 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: Leonard in case something happens there where he's not knock 302 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: on wood available for you know, training camp or a 303 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: preseason or the regular season. Had six starts last year, 304 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: played over three hundred snaps last year after just over 305 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty snaps in his first three years combined. 306 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: So a guy that to me, it's it's like we 307 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: said last week, I think it's in the same vein 308 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: of Azire Franklin type of a contract last year. Like 309 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: you would be surprised shocked at how good EJ. Speed 310 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: could be if he got a chance to lay you know, 311 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: seventy snaps a game like Zaire Franklin did last year. 312 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: So again, it's insurance for Shack. But it's a really 313 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: good linebacker position group now with EJ. Speed coming back 314 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: joining Franklin and Leonard. Yeah, and for Tae Kwon, you 315 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: know that that makes a lot of sense. He's been 316 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: in the building rehabbing this whole time. Um, and a 317 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: guy who the Colts thought was playing at a really 318 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: high level last year before he had the second patella injury. 319 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: He can play everywhere on that defensive line, from wide 320 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: nine edge rusher to one technique nose tackle. He can 321 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: play all those positions. Nate Ollie trusts him a lot. 322 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: M and just the the energy and the just that 323 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: that motor that he brings I think is a really 324 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: good thing for this Colts defense. I think, you know, 325 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna see the Colts rely more on Dio 326 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: O Dango this year. Good regardless of what happens with 327 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: Unique and gatuas you're potting right now, we don't know 328 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: where that stands. He remains kind of an unsigned free 329 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: agent um. But you know, last year, Tae Kwon was 330 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: kind of in that that role of that flex guy 331 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: could play anywhere. I think you maybe see Dio in 332 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: that role if he's not necessarily a starter going into 333 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: the year. But Tai Kwan, I mean, it's important to 334 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: have depth on that defensive line, and Tai Kwon is 335 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: one of those eight guys. You like having him back, 336 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: and when he's been healthy, he's been out there, he's 337 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: been really productive. As JJ said, he can play inside 338 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: on early downs, excuse me, outside on early downs, inside 339 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: on passing downs, third downs. And now that he's back, 340 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: you've got Quitty pay dioa Dangbo, Stuart's back, Buck Nurse back. 341 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: That's a pretty good core of defensive line coming back 342 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: from twenty two to twenty three. So now to me, 343 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: it's all about unique and Goackway and what the Colts 344 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: can do to anybody on the market. They either bring 345 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: him back or another defensive presence at edge on. This 346 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: is that edge rusher, and I'm just saying could being Gotway, 347 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: could be another guy that fits that is that that 348 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: they sitting in the same thing as they were last year. 349 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: Nine million to eleven million type one year deals for 350 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: these guys. That's a good question because it really depends 351 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: on how you view Dio going into this year. Do 352 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: you view him as a starting defensive end opposite Quitty 353 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: pay or do you view him as more of that 354 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: Swiss army knife who can play across the line, but 355 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: maybe isn't necessarily going to start for you. That that's 356 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: going to be a really important question. Chris Ballard did 357 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: say the combine he thought Dial played really well last year, 358 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: especially in the second half of the season, So something 359 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on there. Okay, let's talk about 360 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: how we do what we do know defensively and our loss. 361 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: Let's start with Brandon face On. He is no longer 362 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: a cold he's headed back to the Las Vegas Reagulars. 363 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: Real quick, guys face on secondary. What'd you think he 364 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: was here for a cup of coffee? That was it? 365 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: Coach losing a big Is this a big insurance policy 366 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: they're losing or what is it? I mean, he was 367 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: good depth at the cornerback position last year. Certainly he 368 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: had his ups and downs, and towards the end of 369 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: the season we saw more of Isaiah Rodgers on defense 370 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: and in the secondary, over facing obviously playing that third 371 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: cornerback position in sub packages. So yeah, I mean, it's 372 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: always it's always tough to lose a guy that had 373 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: grown up playing and playing well. And the Gus Bradley 374 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: defense when he is a defensive coordinator, is coming back 375 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: for another year. But I think the Calts are high 376 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: on Dallas Flowers coming back. Obviously, they're high on Isaiah 377 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: Rodgers coming back. And I wouldn't be shocked if the 378 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: Colts addressed that position in the draft later on in 379 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: the coming weeks in free agency undrafted free agency. So 380 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: Facon is gone, but I think the Colts have some 381 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: good depth and I think that position will probably be 382 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: addressed in the later rounds of the draft. JJ, let's 383 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: talk about Bobby Okaraka and Matt. You said this earlier 384 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: about it, so let me throw this down real quick. 385 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: We talked about DJ Speed coming back, Shack Letard coming 386 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: back after an injury, play season, Zaire Franklin incredible, setting 387 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: a record for tackles in a season. So that means 388 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: Bobby o'caraka gone. Guys. He made five point four million 389 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: dollars on his rookie contract he just signed with the Giants. 390 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: Comes out to ten million year. But he also gets 391 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: that twenty two million in guarantees with the Giants. Okay, 392 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: so let's go to their Bobby. Congratulations. He got paid. 393 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: He didn't get paid here. And what a gamer he was, 394 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: even when times were tough out there, that young man 395 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: was putting his nose into the ball wherever it was 396 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: and you know, running up tackle after tackle, setting records 397 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: like he did. What does this mean? It's it's not surprising, 398 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: you know, kind of like we talked about on our 399 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: free agency tracker Pod. Bobby's a really good player. He's 400 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: got versatility, he can play the will, he can play 401 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: the mic. He like he said, Jeffrey, he's a gamer. 402 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: He goes out there, and he was one of those 403 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: guys who at the end of the season he was 404 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: still giving it everything he had. But paying Shaquille Leonard, 405 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: Ziah Franklin and Bobby Ocarecage has never made it. Just 406 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: couldn't do, especially at the contract figure that he got 407 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: from New York. Big number. Great for him, Yeah, oh, 408 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: absolutely deserved. Like that's that's the thing. You you like 409 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: to see a guy like Bobby make that money and 410 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: earn it, and you're happy that he got it. You 411 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: just you weren't going to pay it as a franchise 412 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: because you already got Shack Leonard, you got Zaire Franklin 413 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: coming off the franchise record in tackles, and then like 414 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: we talked about DJ Speed, he's kind of that third linebacker, 415 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: but EJ was on the field for maybe twenty percent 416 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: of the defensive snaps as the SAM linebacker in that 417 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: four to three scheme. Because usually the Colts are gonna 418 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: be in nickel, they're gonna be in sub packages with 419 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: an extra dB on the field, so you're not going 420 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: to have three linebackers on the field a whole lot. 421 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: So it just doesn't make a lot of sense to 422 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: pay three off ball linebackers the level that you would 423 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: have had to to keep Bobbio Karake here. And this 424 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: is the catch twenty two or the double edged sword, 425 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: whatever you want to say. This is why it's so 426 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: tough to be a good drafting team like the Colts 427 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: have been on a consistent level since Chris Ballard has 428 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: been here. I mean, it's always tough to lose one 429 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: of your own. A good third round pick by the 430 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: Colts in twenty nineteen hitting free agency for the first time. 431 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: He was a really good Day two draft pick that 432 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: grew and developed and took on more of a role 433 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: every year, season by season. As JJ said, career high 434 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: tackles this year. He was a guy that did everything 435 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: right on the field off the field, was a leader 436 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: for the Colts inside the locker room. But the silver 437 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: lining to this is and we saw it a couple 438 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: of years ago with Andrew Walker the Colts. I thought, 439 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: that's our former jew. You're a writer from dot com 440 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: Andrew Walker getting a shout? How many times a season 441 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: did I didn't do that from twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen. Wow. 442 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: Let's say he's running a softball complex and he just 443 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: started a bracket challenge. I think too here on this week, 444 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: Um no, Anthony, we saw it with Anthony Walker. The 445 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: Colts have been a good drafting team, but you could 446 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: I think you could argue that the best place they 447 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: have drafted is linebacker. How many hits at linebacker have 448 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: they had? So that's the silver lining. Time likes to 449 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: see Andrew Walker playing linebacker. And here's Andrew Walker a 450 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: crass with Chamier. Thinks he could hit a home run 451 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: in a Major League baseball game with a softball or 452 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: with no like an actual baseball, Like you could hit 453 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: it off, you know, but walk out the car and 454 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: hit one. Yeah no, no, get hit a softball a mile. 455 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: But he can't do that hand eye coordination. Shot, pal, 456 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: That's I got news for you. You're not young anymore. Okay, 457 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: let's go on to what we do know. Start with 458 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: this one because last time the Colt full to move 459 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: like this ended up going to the Super Bowl for 460 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: a big name, big dollar free agent kicker. According to 461 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: the NFL Network, the Cults are signing kicker Matt Gay 462 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: to a four year deal. I think it's it was 463 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: at twenty two five over four twenty two point Five's 464 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: a chunk of change, which is the richest deal when 465 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: it comes to free agent kickers in NFL history. Guys, 466 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: what do you think, especially with Chase McLoughlin coming off 467 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: the year that he did, which wasn't bad at all, 468 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: the culture looking for a kicker. I thought they found one. No, 469 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: not at all. So I woke up to this this 470 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: morning because it happened late last nine I think midnight 471 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: or maybe even later. So I was surprised because of 472 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: the emergence of as you said, Chase McLoughlin last year, 473 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: who many thought would get another chance to win the 474 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: kicking job for the Colts on a permanent level. Really 475 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: solid last year on fuel goals, made some clutch kicks. 476 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: We've talked about, you know, his consistency over fifty, you know, 477 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: nine field goals over fifty, franchise record for the Colts. 478 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: But I know they really liked Matt Gay when they 479 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: had him on the practice squad a couple of years 480 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: back here in two twenty, when he was essentially at 481 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: the time backing up Rodrigo Blankenship. He goes after that point, 482 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: he goes to the Rams and just is the ideal kicker, consistent, 483 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: makes clutch kicks, helps them on their Super Bowl run, 484 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: wins a championship with them. I mean, he was a 485 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: pro bowler in twenty twenty one. That year made ninety 486 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: two percent of his field goals, or has made ninety 487 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: two percent of his field goals in the NFL since 488 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty. So I've always said, JJ, you're 489 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: going to roll your eyes over there because you've heard 490 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: me say this all the time. But I think kicker 491 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: is one of the most important positions on your team. 492 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,239 Speaker 1: He has to be a weapon. I mean, look at 493 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 1: the parody in this conference, with all the great quarterbacks, 494 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: all of these games that come down to the wire, 495 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: all of these fourth quarter, close nail biters. You have 496 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: to have a reliable kicker that can make clutch, long kicks, 497 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: end of half, end of games. Listen. I know the 498 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: Colts and the fans say, hey, what do you what 499 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: are you doing paying a kicker when you have all 500 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: these other holes. Listen, the Colts have addressed an area 501 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: of need, signed a major weapon, and signed maybe the 502 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: best player available at that position, and they paid him 503 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: some money. So this is exactly what Colts fans have 504 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: won have wanted, I should say. But the fact that 505 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: it's a kicker and not a wide receiver still ruffles. 506 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: There is no kicking competition. JJ. No, no, there will 507 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: be no kicking competition. I mean, look, Matt Gay. The 508 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: reason why I'm not super worried about this because I 509 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: woke up this morning, Mate, I had the same thought 510 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: of like, oh, that's kind of surprising. And then I 511 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: had a little bit of PTSD because I covered the 512 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: Bears when they signed Cody Parkey to a rich free 513 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: agent contract. But Cody Parkey was coming from Miami to Chicago, 514 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: a bit of a difference. Matt Kay is coming from 515 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: an indoor stadium to an indoor stadium, and I just 516 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: that gives me a little more comfort that what he 517 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: did in LA he can do here in Indianapolis. And 518 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: the other thing with Matt Gay. So since nineteen sixty, 519 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: only six kickers have had a higher percentage of made 520 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: field goals of fifty or more yards than Matt Gay 521 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: with a minimum of twenty attempts, Matta seventeen or twenty 522 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: three in his career on field goals of fifty or 523 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: more yards. That's that's a pretty good skill to have, 524 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: especially when you have a young quarterback. Presumably potentially coming 525 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: in who you don't want that quarterback to lose confidence 526 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: if the drive ends at the thirty two yard right right, 527 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: and then yeah, the kicker misses the kick. You know 528 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: that that can take the wind out of an offense 529 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: a little bit and a team and I think paying 530 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: for that right now, if you do go ahead and 531 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,719 Speaker 1: you get that young quarterback or you know, whenever you 532 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: get that guy, I think that does matter for the 533 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: overall just morale of the team. Doubt to be able 534 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: to trust it. Hey, you know, if we go down 535 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: and get three about points, that's a good sent that. 536 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: You know, as long as you're getting in position to 537 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: get points, to be able to get them, and to 538 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 1: be able to get them consistently, that does matter. It 539 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: really does. Vinytary McLoughlin blanket, Chip Badgeley blanket Chip McLoughlin. 540 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: I just think Jeffrey was time to find an elite, 541 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: consistent weapon at that position. We all thought it might 542 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: be McLoughlin. But again, when you have a chance to 543 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: acquire a true difference maker and it fits the value 544 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: that you have on that player in free agency, you 545 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: do it. And that's what the Colts did. But again 546 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: it just peeves people off that it was a kicker, 547 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: not the difference maker on either offense or defense. All right, 548 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna bounce around the league of the NFL free 549 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: agency world, because stuff happens every minute. Everybody's checking on 550 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: the computer. What's Schefter saying, who's getting ee in? And 551 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: Rapaport the NFL network saying this. So stuff changes by 552 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: the minute these couple of days. So looking forward to 553 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: what happens over the next couple of days, I want 554 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: to just shift gears and hit reverse for a minute, guys, 555 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: go back to the quarterback position before we bounce around 556 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: the league. Any chance do the Colts have? I guess 557 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: what I'm asking is, is there enough Is there enough 558 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: groceries in the cupboard for the Colts to say, hey, 559 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: we're coveting a guy. We're at four. If we go 560 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: to three, I'm gonna guarantee that we get that pick 561 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: to make something like that JJ Matt to do something 562 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: like even move up one. But what is it gonna cost? 563 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: What is it gonna take to do something like that? 564 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: My question is, are the Colts in position right now 565 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: with some backups in Like I said, some stock in 566 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: the in thefrigerator and cupboards that they can make a move, 567 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: do some sort of trade, or do they not want 568 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: to at this point of the year because we did, Hey, 569 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: we don't know who's starting at quarterback in twenty twenty three. 570 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: This is what it kind of goes back to the 571 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: conversation we had at the start of the podcast. Where 572 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: is the difference between the third and fourth quarterback on 573 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: your board? Is that worth the thirty fifth overall pick 574 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: or the seventy ninth overall pick or a twenty twenty 575 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: four second round pick or whatever it would cost to 576 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: move up one spot with Arizona? Is that is that 577 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: gap big enough where that pick is worth it. If 578 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: it is, then yeah, you you call up Monteasin Fort 579 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: and say, hey, what do you want. If it's not, 580 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: then you say, yeah, we're okay, stay here and yeah 581 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: it is great name. If it's not, then you stay here. 582 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: You stay at four and you say, you know what, 583 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: maybe Arizona does take Will Anderson at three and they say, 584 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: we don't want to trade out of getting this guy 585 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: who we think can be a really good player, who, 586 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: by the way, if Arizona trades out of three, say 587 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: they trade down to eight with the Falcons. You know 588 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: where Will Anderson's gonna wind up the Seattle Seahawks, They're 589 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: gonna have to face him twice a year. So, by 590 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: the way, Arizona, just something to consider if you are 591 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: going to trade out of three, I don't know, a 592 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: little risky if you're you don't want to face Will 593 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: Anderson twice a year. Um, that that's a consideration. Though. 594 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: If you know, hey, if we may need to make 595 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: sure that we get that guy on our board, we 596 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: get one of the top three guys, then yeah, we 597 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: can do it. The price of doing that is much 598 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: lower than it will be or that would have been 599 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: up to No. One. Yeah, and again you just have 600 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: to know what the gap is between the fourth best 601 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: quarterback and the third best quarterback, or the gap between 602 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: the second best quarterback and the third best quarterback. You 603 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: also have to factor this in as well. If the 604 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: Colts don't trade up to number three, they can still 605 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: get the fourth best quarterback, not have to trade anything, 606 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: and they can bet on Shane Steiken to make it 607 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: work with whatever offense he implements and whatever quarterback he has, 608 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: because he has proven he's been able to do that 609 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: with different offenses and different quarterbacks with different skill sets 610 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: at multiple spots and multiple stops around the NFL. I mean, 611 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: we saw it last year. Jalen Hurts is incredibly different 612 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: than Philip Rivers and Herbert and he tailored his play 613 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: calling and the offense and the play design based on 614 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: the cards that he had in his hand that he 615 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: was dealt with by their general manager there in Philadelphia. 616 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: And Darnier won an MVP Award doing it too with 617 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: Jalen hurt So let's have a little fun here with 618 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: the would use Hey, guys, would you if this happened? 619 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: Would you if this happened? We're gonna go over positional 620 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: priorities real quick, but would you rather spend and the 621 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: floors open? Okay, because there's a free agent quarterback out there? 622 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: Or two? And by the way, congratulations to Case Keenum 623 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: entering his forty fourth year in the NFL as a 624 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: backup quarterback. Case Keenum gets signed down the text showcase 625 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. But listen, would you rather spend 626 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: the fourth pick of the draft on potentially the fourth 627 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: best quarterback in this draft class? Or trade to pick okay, 628 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: and next year's first round pick for somebody like Lamar Jackson. 629 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: Let's just have fun. He's available to sign offer sheets. 630 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: It's a big dollar offer sheet, but he is available 631 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: from other teams after beginning after being given the non 632 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: exclusive franchise tag last week. Guys, is there anyway? Is 633 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: there anyway? Is what I'm trying to say, that a 634 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: free agent quarterback, a veteran comes in to leave this offense. 635 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a tough proposition. Lamar Jackson is a 636 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: great player such twenty six, He's a former MVP, he's awesome. 637 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: To get make that work, you would probably have to 638 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: give Lamar Jackson a fully guaranteed contract. That's which means 639 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: which would mean you'd have to structure. I mean you 640 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: have to, Yeah, probably a little bit more UM and 641 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: the cap ramifications of that, coupled with the amount you're 642 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: still gonna have to pay Matt Ryan this year, means 643 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: you're committing a lot of money to the quarterback position 644 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, plus a draft pick for next year, 645 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: which is maybe a wide receiver to help the look. 646 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: Never say never on any of this stuff, right, but 647 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: the Colts I think are seeing the benefit this year 648 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: of going with a rookie quarterback contract. That allows you 649 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: to do a lot of things. It allows you to 650 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: sign a kicker to the biggest contract given to a 651 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: free agent kicker in NFL history, that being able to earmark. Hey, 652 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: if we get a rookie quarterback this year, next year, 653 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: whenever it is, we're on that path, we can now 654 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: go address some other holes on our roster in a 655 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: way that we haven't done previously because we've been paying 656 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: our quarterback twenty thirty million thirty five million in a season. 657 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: So that just allows you different paths that then get 658 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: closed off by going and paying Lamar Jackson what he 659 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: is worth as a quarterback. Yeah, generally speaking, I love 660 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: the idea of acquiring NFL proven talent in the off season, 661 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,479 Speaker 1: right because they are a proven commodity. It's not a 662 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: guess or a projection on how good they're going to 663 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: be going from the Saturday game to the Sunday game. 664 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: That's why I loved a couple years ago when the 665 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: Colts traded the thirteenth pick in the first round for 666 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: Forrest Buckner. Right. I mean, we all know how that 667 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: has turned out. That's why, generally speaking, I'm a fan 668 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: of this. But as JJ said, the financial to this 669 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: are so different. He wants a fully guaranteed deal. It's 670 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: catch twenty two, right, because would you be able to 671 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: help him because you're gonna give up a first round 672 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: pick next year? And then would you be able to 673 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: pay for significant players to come in and help him 674 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: and play around him because he's eating so much of 675 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 1: your salary account because of the new contract that he wants. 676 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: And then there's the people that point to the injury 677 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: and the health and the lack of playoff success. Right, 678 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: he's one in three in the postseason. He's missed eleven 679 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: games over the last two years. See, you have to 680 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: factor that into it as well, based on the way 681 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: that he plays, the hits that he takes and things 682 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: like that, because he's a mobile quarterback. But yeah, this 683 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: is fascinating and still we talked about it last week 684 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: Jeffrey on The Friday Show. It's just it's weird that 685 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: a player of his status getting so little attention from 686 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: other teams around the NFL. All right, guys, let's have 687 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: some fun positional priorities and we're gonna bounce around the 688 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: league a little bit. Abcde all right, here we go. 689 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: Quarterback defensive end, wide receiver, cornerback, offensive line. Again, quarterback, 690 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: defensive end, wide receiver, cornerback, offensive line. Let's prioritize those 691 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: just this is just your random opinion, random thoughts on 692 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: this thing. Where they come as far as priorities go 693 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: in this draft once again? Quarterdraft or free agency, free agency, 694 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: free agency, quarterback, defensive end, good point, good points. Sorry 695 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: I didn't clarify that. Quarterback, defensive end, wide receiver, cornerback, 696 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 1: offensive line. We saw this. There's gonna be some smaller moves. 697 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: We saw Brandon Facon. We lost him to the Raiders 698 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: and stuff. There's guys like him that are gonna be 699 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: coming in here. I would imagine lower name guys, lower 700 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: name deal stuff like that, lower money dollar deals, but 701 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: a lot of movement to fill out this roster. Go 702 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: ahead and prioritize it. Guys. Where are we at? Yeah? 703 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: Glad JJ I'm gonna go number one quarterback, Okay, number two, 704 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: wide receiver, number three, offensive line, mentalesting, four, defensive end, 705 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: five cornerback, and I'm own quarterback number one just because 706 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what this week brings with, you know, 707 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and Nick Foles and whatever their status may be, 708 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 1: but I think you need to give yourself an avenue 709 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: to if you do draft a quarterback in the first round, 710 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: him not needing to start right away, you'd like him too. 711 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: But if you have competency at that position and you 712 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: feel like, you know what, he's not ready, we can't 713 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: rush him into it, that that would be important to 714 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: have wide receivers important because like we were talking about, 715 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: you got Pitt, you got Pierce. You know, you have 716 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: a lot of room there after those two guys to 717 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: make some moves. Maybe maybe that's bringing back Paris and 718 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: Ashton Dulan, Maybe that's going and identifying a couple of 719 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: guys outside the building to come in. But you need 720 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: to address that position in free agency. And then I 721 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 1: went offensive line three. You know, we'll we'll see what 722 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: maybe shakes out in the interior of the offensive line. 723 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: Do you go add a right guard? You know how 724 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: that may shake out over the next couple of days, 725 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: but just the way that that you know, and in 726 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: that group, by the way, the offensive line, the Colts 727 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: offensive line did play better in the second half of 728 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: the season, but you know, Chris Ballard said it at 729 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: the after in his postseason press conference, like we're not 730 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: getting any trophies. No one's patting us on the back 731 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: for how we played as an offensive line in twenty 732 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: twenty two. Then fourth had defensive line just again bolstering 733 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: that unit. Addressing do you keep Unique and gock Way, 734 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: do you let him walk? Do you sign someone else 735 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: at that position? And then the last being cornerback. I 736 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: think Stefane Gilmour, Kenny Moore, the second Isaiah Rodgers senior 737 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: is kind of your top three. Dallas Flowers showed a 738 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: lot last year. I don't know if that's as pressing 739 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 1: of a need, but you do need some depth there 740 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: before mate, I want to go to this positional priorities question. 741 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 1: We just asked about the quarterback, defensive end, wide receiver, cornerback, 742 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 1: and offensive line. JJ. Would you be shocked or would 743 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: you be like, no, just if the Colts didn't make 744 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: a trade some sort of trade this year with a 745 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: starter on this roster and deal him for someone else. No, 746 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be, because they've done that pretty seemingly every 747 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: year round draft time. Ye right, you know? Uh, last 748 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: last year is rocket scene straight up for Unique and Goackway. Um, 749 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, and Chris Ballard has shown a willingness to 750 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: be creative in his roster construction, because, by the way, 751 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: I think you're seeing a lot of teams go this 752 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: route where they say, we would rather trade for a 753 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,760 Speaker 1: player one year before he hits free agency, then signing 754 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: him when he hits free agency. Right, And that's how 755 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: the Colts got to Forest Buckner. Here was you know that, hey, 756 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: San Francisco wasn't going to give him an extension. They 757 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 1: traded him one year before he was gonna hit free agency, 758 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: and boom, he gets the extent from the Colts. It's, 759 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: by the way, now looks like a bargain the way 760 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: that the interior defensive tackle U contract market has exploded 761 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: over the right. Yeah, Armstead played great for him. Playing 762 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: great for him, they had to keep one of the 763 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: two guys. Their situations kind of like the Colts linebackers situation, Right, 764 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 1: you can't keep Bobby o'kaka when you're in a pay shack. 765 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: Leonard sing may take go over this priorities quarterback, defensive end, 766 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver, cornerback, offensive line. Do you think they go 767 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: in this free agency? I agree with JJ. The only 768 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 1: thing I would switch is I would have maybe defensive 769 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: end a little bit higher. I think I would put 770 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: defensive end at three, whereas JJ has offensive line. I 771 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: think you're splitting hairs there. But I would put defensive 772 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: end at three because I mean, the Colts were good 773 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: last year in terms of the sack total and getting 774 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: after the quarterback. Maybe you'd want to see a little 775 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 1: bit more of a game changing aspect of that group. 776 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: But anytime you have forty four sacks, that's pretty good, 777 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: second most in the Indianapolis era. But they had a 778 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: lot of contributions from a lot of guys last year. 779 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: I just like the idea of pairing up Quity pay 780 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: dioa Dangbo with a veteran pass rusher as those guys 781 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: continue to grow. And the reason I say that is 782 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 1: the question is can you get ten sacks from Pay 783 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: and a Dangbo. Neither guy has shown that yet, doesn't 784 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: mean it can happen. Quity Pays dealt with injuries, I 785 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: would still prioritize the idea of and Gokway or somebody 786 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,760 Speaker 1: else coming in to help the pass rush. That duo, 787 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: if you will, of Pay and a Dangbo as they 788 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: continue to grow and hopefully turn into the neighborhood of 789 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: Mathis and Freeney because that's what you drafted him for 790 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. All right, this is great, 791 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: I mean celebration time of year. Who's going awhere and 792 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 1: for how much? In free agency draft coverage coming up, 793 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: you can find out all the latest information Oncolts dot com. 794 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: Coming up this week on the Colts Audio Network, our 795 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 1: NFL Combine content continues to leak out. We have interviews 796 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: coming out with Greg ko Sell, He's the best from 797 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: NFL Film, Solomon Wilcots, Wilcots rather from Sirius XM, Mike 798 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: Chapel from CBS four and Fox fifty nine. Jim Nagee 799 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: from the Senior Bowl checks in as well. Inside the Draft. 800 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: Coming back this week, we'll have a chat with NFL 801 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: insider Trevor Sikma Sekeema. That's right from Pro Football Femmas, 802 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: thank you for having my back on that Maytable's also 803 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: gonna have interviews with new Colts assistant coaches. Folks, get 804 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: it while you can. New running back coach DeAndre Smith, 805 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 1: Tom Manning's a tight end coach, and later this week, 806 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: special teams coordinator Brian Mason, an offensive line coach Tony 807 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: Sperrano Junior, among others. Get to know your new coaching staff. 808 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: Don't forget the last word. From the Colts offseason radio 809 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: show at Airs On Friday night at six pm, I'm 810 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan 811 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: with my self, Gore Man and Matt Taylor recap the 812 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: latest with the Colts, and this Friday we're gonna be live. 813 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: May take where we headed, O'Hara's oley not going to 814 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: the airport. Show up to the Chicago Airport. You'll get 815 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: us o'riley's it is Saint Patrick's stay. But you're in 816 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: the neighborhood. Oh that's right. Maya wait a minute, you 817 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: have me. We're doing a show live from a bar, 818 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 1: from an Irish bar. How about that? Okay, get me part. 819 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 1: That's the only thing I'm giving yet. Good God, all right, 820 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a fun one. So check us out. 821 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: But we got a whole lot more coming up throughout 822 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 1: the next couple of days. Read what you can when 823 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: you can from JJ Stankovitz, our senior writer at Colts 824 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 1: dot Com, and Matt Taylor. Check them both out. May 825 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: Take Colts at May Take Colts on Twitter at JJ 826 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: Stankovitz on Twitter. Guys, let's go around the league a 827 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: little bit. I'm gonna go back to the latest one 828 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 1: that happened. Jacoby Myers JJ Stankovitch, the latest to leave 829 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: the NFL's whatever you want to call what New England 830 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: is up there, he's going on and even the nest 831 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: leaving the nest if you will, it is right. But no, 832 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: it's a quality player, a guy you call second third 833 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: best free agency option at the wide receiver position. The 834 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver market was not stacked this year, and Jacoby 835 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: Myers going to the Raiders are reported three years thirty 836 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 1: three million. Really interesting how that might impact Paris Campbell 837 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: and the trickle down for him now that he, Jacoby 838 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: Myers is the first wide receiver to sign or to 839 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: agree to terms, I should say in this negotiating window. 840 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: The other thing with Raiders Jimmy Karoppol, Yes, going there. 841 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. Does that, mate? Does 842 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: that preclude the Raiders not from drafting a quarterback? But 843 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: does that take them out of trading up to number three? 844 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: Because that's a lot of resources to commit to. You know, 845 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: I think it's thirty four million guarantee, right, um to 846 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: do that and then trade up, that would be interesting 847 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,720 Speaker 1: if the Raiders did that. I think that it does 848 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 1: to your point. And also, I mean, I know the 849 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: connection there between Garoppolo and Josh McDaniels like that, that 850 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 1: was they really hit it off. That duo really did 851 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: well early on in Garoppolo's career when he had to 852 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: come in and play for Tom Brady during the whole 853 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,439 Speaker 1: deflate Gate saga and some other injuries there. But to me, 854 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: and again, I know you're gonna roll your eyes at me, 855 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 1: Jeffrey because the Derek Carr thing. But Jimmy Garoppolo is 856 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: Derek Carr white. I think Derek Carr is better. It 857 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to me. But it's like a 858 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: I think it's like a seven million dollar difference. May 859 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: take perhaps perhaps you're statistically speaking, are you saying? Are 860 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: you telling me statistically speaking? Is what you're saying? I 861 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: have they benched Car last year. They took him out 862 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: of the light up and benched him. Garoppolo was hotter 863 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 1: than epistol and gets hurt and can't come back. Why 864 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't understand the comparison here. I mean, are you 865 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: gonna sit here and tell me that Jimmy Garoppolo is 866 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: better long term than Derek Carr at this point of 867 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: their careers. Why not? Why not? I disagree? Well, I'm 868 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 1: just saying why not. We, like I said, were in 869 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: a benching last year and a guy coming off an 870 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 1: injury who was playing hot. I think I think it's 871 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 1: a head coach that just wanted his guy. Yeah, that's 872 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,959 Speaker 1: what I think. I think he just wanted his guy. 873 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: And I'm rooting like heck for Derek Carr because I've 874 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: always had an affinity for him. But I don't think 875 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is a better upgrade long term of that 876 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: position compared to the guy that had last year. To 877 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: find out, what's your thought on that? Just compared to 878 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 1: those two, let's have some fun. Jimmy Garoppolo is so 879 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 1: tough because of the system he played in in San Francisco. 880 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: It was like and the injury designed for him right 881 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: in the injuries is just perfectly designed system for Jimmy Garoppolo. 882 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: Where now he's going to Josh McDaniels, who knows him, 883 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be a different offense. He got Davanta 884 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: Adams and I got Jacobe Myers, Darren Waller, Josh Jacobs. 885 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: He got some weapons there, but it's a different offense, 886 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: it's a different scheme. Derek Carr, I think is a 887 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: little more. You could drop him in do uh you 888 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: know the Saints and say, yeah, he's probably gonna have 889 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: success there. Jimmy Garoppolo. I just I wonder if he 890 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: could have the same level of suct of success outside 891 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: of the Shanahan scheme. Right well. Jason Kelsey of the 892 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: former world champion Philadelphia Eagles, he's back here saying he 893 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: was called. But this one I want to touch on 894 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: before we get out of here. What is going on 895 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: in the New York Jets system right now? What is 896 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: going on with the Green Bay Packers? The reason I'm 897 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: bringing up earlier, That's what I'm saying system right now. 898 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: According to Adam Scheftern, the Jets are actively working a 899 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 1: reaching agreement with Packers free agent wide receiver Alan Lazard, 900 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 1: who is a favorite. Last I heard of of Aaron Rodgers, 901 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: and then of course Rogers going to wed Woody Johnson 902 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: flying in to have a meeting with him, and thought, 903 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: what happens now? Just give me the once over Where's 904 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: he gonna play football next year? And I'm talking about 905 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: Aaron rod Is he gonna play football next year? Really 906 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: interesting take there? Would anyone be surprised if Aaron Rodgers 907 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm good, but it's it's it's gonna 908 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: take a year off or retire, just retire. It's not 909 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: the money, guys, But it's the money. Oh, I mean 910 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 1: it's like it's over fifty million a year we're talking 911 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: about JJ. I mean, it's seventeen weeks to be trained 912 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: like a prince, but also get the snot kicked out 913 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: in the NFL. But it's still fifty five fifty nine million. Look, 914 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, he he can probably play for the Jets. Like, 915 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how, Like you said, how does anyone 916 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: pass up that much money? Even if you have that 917 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,399 Speaker 1: much money, how do you pass up that much money? 918 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: Just be like, yeah, I'm good, I'm just gonna retire. 919 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 1: Let's just hope Aaron Rodgers doesn't follow Brett farves career 920 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: path of defrauding an entire And I know we make 921 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: fun of the Jets because of the Jets and they 922 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: have routinely you know whiff that got quarterback in the 923 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: draft and have not been able to find consistency, have 924 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: not been able to find a franchise quarterback. Zach Wilson 925 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 1: is the latest example all of all that. But if listen, 926 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: I know Aaron Rodgers is not the twenty fifteen or 927 00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen Aaron Rodgers, But if he goes to that team, 928 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 1: they've got a solid roster, right, They've got a solid 929 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: cord Like they were a decent team last year before 930 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,879 Speaker 1: they fell off a cliff in the quarterback. Continue to 931 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: sync them down the stretch. But if Aaron Rodgers goes there, 932 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: they're in the mix. They're in the mix too. Immediately 933 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: win a wild card slot in the in the AFC playoffs, 934 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers is just inserted into that mix of 935 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,240 Speaker 1: viable contending quarterbacks in the af Think there's something brewing 936 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 1: up here. I think there's something brewing, and he is 937 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: going to sign there in New York. I just think 938 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 1: it fits. He's coveted, they want him. It feels good 939 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,839 Speaker 1: to be wanted. Green Bay not so much on this thing. 940 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen, but I also think it's 941 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: gonna happen on Aaron Rodgers terms. Whenever that is, I'll 942 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: be like, hey, let's hold out a couple of week. 943 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,760 Speaker 1: He's going on McAfee today. Oh so that's a biggie. 944 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna find out. By the way, Sam Darnold signed 945 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers. There's a name that we've had. 946 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: There's your guy. Oh, Sam Darnold. Yeah, Sam Dart. Are 947 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: we going to do the Joe Montana thing? Going to 948 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: play for Joe Montana's franchise? Mom? Oh no, what I 949 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 1: was gonna say is and so what you went right? Now, 950 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 1: you have Trey Lance and Sam Darnold. Trey Lance was 951 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: drafted in twenty right, twenty one. Okay, so he was 952 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: the third overall pick in twenty one, and then you 953 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,280 Speaker 1: have Sam Darnold, the third overall pick in twenty eighteen. 954 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,280 Speaker 1: Those two guys are gonna compete to be the backup 955 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: for Brock Purty, who was drafted as the last pick 956 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: in the seventh round. They're gonna compete with brock Purty. Man, 957 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: you just handed him the playbook and the ball. Not so, no, man, 958 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: not so. If Okay, if you're a lot of confidence there, 959 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: if you're the forty nine ers and you're Trey Lance, 960 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: this year just traded tree him so well, we'll figure 961 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 1: it out. More to come. Colts dot Com has the 962 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: latest again. Check him out on Twitter at JJ Stankovitz 963 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,760 Speaker 1: at may Take Colts. I'm at hey Gorman, Guys, before 964 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: we get out of here, i want to get off 965 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 1: the field for a second. I'm gonna give you my 966 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: random thought of the week. Please do that. Please, gonna 967 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,720 Speaker 1: go to Las Vegas for this one. JJ TOAs Vegas 968 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: about the owner Jim Ersey puts on his collection shows 969 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: a Jim Ersay collection. We had one out in Las Vegas. 970 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 1: I was lucky to be a part of it. I 971 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about one specific instance that 972 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: happened during the show. I turned around on stage. There's 973 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:18,240 Speaker 1: a little viewing area for the the the Ersay family, 974 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 1: if you will. There's a sex people that can fit 975 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 1: up there. And I'm doing stage production work and everything, 976 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,879 Speaker 1: and I'm bouncing around putting this show on, and our 977 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: thing before the show was listening. There's so many people 978 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: I like to come up on stage and hey, how 979 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: are you doing? How are you doing? How you doing? 980 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: How you doing? I'm I'm I'm this, I'm this, you 981 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: know she said this one Hey, stop it. Nobody goes 982 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: up there, Okay, nobody, just the intimate inner circle of 983 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: ersay and even the musicians their families really couldn't be 984 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: up there. They could be on the other side or 985 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 1: at these little VIP area. So I'm like, I walk 986 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: up there, it's busy. I'm like, oh, man, who do 987 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,320 Speaker 1: I have to throw off the stage? J J comedic 988 00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: legend Karrot Top Carrot Top. I had met him earlier 989 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: in the earlier in the day. Yeah, vamoosh is what 990 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 1: I gave him. Hey, so I met him earlier to day. Hey, 991 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 1: thanks for coming. Good to be here and enjoy the 992 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 1: VIP section, which is way over there with a great 993 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: view of the stage. He's like, hey, thanks for having me. Man. 994 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: You know, wild hair, wildness, man, Dan, it's got some 995 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,359 Speaker 1: makeup going on around the eyes and everything. I thought 996 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 1: he was gonna pull out a Holy mackerel from his 997 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 1: bag of tricks. I don't know what it was, but anyway, 998 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 1: I said, hey, bro, you gotta go. He did in 999 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 1: about face. Then I say to the lady that's standing 1000 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 1: next to him, not there together, but there's a young 1001 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 1: lady and a young man sitting there, And I said, 1002 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,879 Speaker 1: tap tour on the shoulder. Can I see her past? 1003 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 1: It says Vip. I said, sorry, Vamoosh, you gotta go 1004 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,320 Speaker 1: get out of here, and she goes, but I'm Kevin 1005 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: Cronin's daughter, and it's the lead singer of Ario Speedwagon, 1006 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:48,360 Speaker 1: who was a guest of Jim Mersey there doing five songs. 1007 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 1: I felt horrible on that. I felt okay with the 1008 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 1: Carrot Top one, but I felt horrible. She's like, but 1009 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin, and I gave her kind of a light 1010 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: hug and said, I'm so sorry. We're just trying to 1011 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 1: keep You can't say no to the hevite people to 1012 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 1: a party like that and sing five songs. You can't 1013 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 1: kick the daughter off the stage area that they are watching. 1014 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 1: So one good, one bad and uh. And on my 1015 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: way to that show that day, which was a Saturday, 1016 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 1: by the way, it was early by the time I 1017 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,279 Speaker 1: was getting out there, about eight fifteen, I threw three 1018 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 1: hundred and a wheel of fortune and hit for twenty 1019 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:24,360 Speaker 1: five hundred. I just I just wanted the wheel of 1020 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: fortune and kickt Top off the stage. Sounds like a 1021 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 1: great way. How many times a day do you think 1022 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 1: Kara Top gets kicked out of the stage. He's everywhere 1023 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 1: in Vegas, so I mean he's got a running show somewhere, 1024 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, sure he's here, how are you, Karrot Top? 1025 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: The next thing I know, he's basically sitting on Ersey's lap. 1026 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, take you and your bandana vamose got 1027 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,720 Speaker 1: you Ever ever see the Conan O'Brien with Courtney Thorne 1028 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: Smith and Norm McDonald One of my favorite moments in 1029 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: late night TV where Courtney Thorne Smith of Melrose Place 1030 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 1: just did a movie with Karen Top and it's like, 1031 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: what's the name of the movie. Conan goes, what's the 1032 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 1: name of the movie And Norm McDonald goes, wait, I 1033 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 1: know it. He goes, it's Carrot Top in it. Yeah, 1034 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 1: box office poison. Just google box office boy. That's one 1035 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 1: of my favorite things I've ever seen on late night TV. 1036 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:17,280 Speaker 1: Under On carrat Top fifty five over under years old, older, 1037 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,919 Speaker 1: oh JJ over fifty eight. We never would have guessed 1038 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: that bet around a whild Carrot Top legend. We went 1039 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 1: and saw um, We went and saw Chris Angel, the 1040 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: magician Chris Angel that you see on A and E. 1041 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 1: I think there's a show on there. We went and 1042 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 1: saw his live show. Pretty interesting cat too and uh 1043 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 1: and uh ended up giving h ended up meeting him 1044 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 1: after the show and he gave ursa um a director's 1045 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,800 Speaker 1: chair that Jerry Lewis used for years and mister Ursey 1046 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 1: made a pretty healthy, uh contribution to this foundation that 1047 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 1: Chris Angel has whose son had pediatric cancer and whatnot. 1048 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 1: And he made it and he said, hey, this is 1049 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: one of my coveted possessions for the last decade. Jerry 1050 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,479 Speaker 1: Lewis was a friend of mine up until the pass. 1051 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: But this is his director's chair or acting chair. Well, 1052 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,399 Speaker 1: anytime he had a production that was his chair, all 1053 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,319 Speaker 1: leathered and and and hand carved and stuff like that. 1054 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 1: Chris Angel ended up giving it to the owner right 1055 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 1: there on the spot and he put it on his 1056 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 1: private plane and brought it back. But it was nice. 1057 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,919 Speaker 1: It was a cool little moment. But Chris Angel show, 1058 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: we saw live carat top I had to bounce out 1059 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: the next day. But it was fun overall. I went 1060 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 1: to one guy, showy, Hey, more fun stuff to come. 1061 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 1: This has brought to you by our friends at winn Bett. 1062 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 1: We are the official Colt's official podcast. Rather Matt Taylor 1063 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 1: Boys to the Colts. JJ Stankomitz from Colts dot Com. 1064 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm Jeffrey Gorman. We do it every week. Check it 1065 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: out because there's so much moving and shaking going on. 1066 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to miss. Put on your Twitter, 1067 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 1: put on put those what are they called guys when 1068 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 1: when stuff happens. Put on your alerts so you get 1069 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 1: the days, your notifications, get the dings. But be sure 1070 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 1: to join us next week because there is gonna be 1071 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 1: some new faces around here by the time we do 1072 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 1: this show next week. That is in my opinion for 1073 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,440 Speaker 1: JJ Stankowitz and Matt Taylor. I'm Jeffrey Gorman. Check us 1074 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 1: out every week and don't forget like on the icols 1075 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 1: dot com for the latest. We'll talk to you next week. 1076 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 1: M