1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: It has been a tough couple of weeks for freedom. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: New threats to our freedom of speech, free elections, freedom 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: of movement, the freedom to defend ourselves, even the freedom 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: of nations to oppose woke corporations. Thankfully, Senator Cruz is 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: finally back from meeting with bb net and Yahoo. He's 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: back from Israel. We can hash all of this out. 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: This is Verdict with Ted Cruz. Welcome back to Verdict 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: with Ted Cruz. I'm Michael Knowles, Senator, Welcome back to 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: the States. I'm glad you're back. Michael. Good to be 10 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: with you. So I want to hear all about Israel. 11 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: I want to hear about this meeting with bb net 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: and Yahoo. You were with him on actually rather an 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: historic day. But I don't want to talk about that 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: right now. I want to be very selfish and first 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: get to things that directly affect me. Namely, there is 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: a new rule being passed by the ATF. That's the 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and firearms, three of my favorite things. 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: We were warned that the new ATF picks were on 19 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: the radical side, but the headlines I'm seeing is that 20 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: there are new threats to very popular weapons and the 21 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: Second Amendment. What is happening? Well, so the ATF put 22 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: out a new rule today that prohibited stabilizing crips on pistols, 23 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: so shoulder stocks on pistols, and under the law, what 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: basically they say, if you attach a shoulder stock to 25 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: a pistol, you turn it into a short armed rifle. 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: And short armed rifles under the law have to be 27 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: specially registered. Now why does this matter? Well, it matters 28 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: because according to the Congressional Research Service, they're anywhere between 29 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: ten million and forty million of these stabilizing grips that 30 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: are out there that Americans own, and so by the 31 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: flip of a pick in ATF may be making anywhere 32 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: from ten million to forty million Americans into felons unless 33 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: they suddenly go and register their firearms. And all of 34 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: this is being done by arbitrary fiat. Now, is there 35 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: any legitimacy to the argument? I mean, I see your point, 36 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: the political point that this is going to basically just 37 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: take a ton of guns off the table, which seems 38 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: to be the ultimate goal of the Biden administration. But 39 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: is there any legitimacy to the argument that, Well, actually, 40 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: when you put this sort of stabilizing grip on actually 41 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: it does kind of turn it into a rifle or 42 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: is it just an excuse? So if the objective is 43 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: preventing crime, there are no data to suggest that that 44 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: adding a grip to a pistol suddenly makes it more dangerous, 45 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: suddenly leads to more crimes. That those are not the 46 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: weapons that tend to be used in crimes. The most 47 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: common weapons that are used in crimes are revolvers. You know, 48 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: you go to the city of Chicago where you have 49 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: gang members shooting each other, They're not using stabilizing grips. 50 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: They're just shooting each other with handguns. This is Look, 51 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: you could debate what the rules should be on the 52 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: front end, but this is worse than changing the rules 53 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: on the front end because it's arbitrary under the fact. 54 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: After the fact, if you've got ten, twenty, thirty, forty 55 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: million people that have pistols at home, have these stabilizing 56 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: grips at home, yesterday they were perfectly legal. Now you know, 57 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: presumably those forty million people, not all of them know 58 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: that the ATF suddenly issued this new rule. And it's 59 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: really dangerous when the government can turn you into a 60 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: felon without your knowing. You know, you're doing something that 61 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: it was perfectly legal when you bought it, but suddenly 62 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 1: the Biden administration decided they don't want it to be legal. 63 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: And the problem is are they going to arrest all 64 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: forty million people? Probably not, but you can count on 65 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: them using it as an arbitrary club that if they 66 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: want to go after you, suddenly you've committed a crime 67 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: that you had had no idea about it. And it 68 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: doesn't It doesn't accomplish anything. It's not actually stopping crime. 69 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: It's just with the stroke of a pen, turning people 70 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: into criminals. That's a point I had not considered because 71 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: I could see these this quibbling over. Well, now it 72 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: looks more like a rifle, and in a way, it 73 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: kind of find what is a rifle really? You know, 74 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: I could see all of that as a way to 75 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: obscure the issue. But your point is the point of 76 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: these regulations is to prevent crime, and we know that 77 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: forget this particular kind of alleged rifle, but rifles of 78 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: all kinds are really not the guns that are used 79 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: in most crimes. It's really just revolvers or as standard 80 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: issue semi automatic pistols. So I think that does tip 81 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: the argument. It's actually good, good Ammo, to use in 82 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: a debate, if you'll, if you'll pardon a labored metaphor. Well, 83 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: and I'll point out, Michael, you know you mentioned the 84 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: nominees for ATF, so that dominated me. The head of 85 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: ATF is the sky David Chipman. We had his hearing 86 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: in the Senate Judiciary Committee couple of weeks ago, and 87 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: this guy is extreme when it comes to gun control. 88 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: He works for one of the major gun control organizations 89 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: in this country, and it was interesting at the hearing. 90 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: I asked him if he wanted to ban AR fifteens, 91 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: which are the most popular rifles in America, and he 92 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: said on equivocally yes, he wants to ban them all. 93 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: And the leading Senate legislation to do that is Diane 94 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: Feinstein's legislation that would ban some two thousand different types 95 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: of rifles that she specifies. And Chipman made the argument 96 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: he said he thought Feinstein didn't go nearly far enough 97 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: and he would go much further. So Feinstein would ban 98 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: the sale of new AR fifteen's. Chipman wants to make 99 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: it illegal for anyone to own one, which sets up 100 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: the same scenario we're talking about, which is the federal 101 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: government being able to knock in your door and confiscate 102 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: your guns or declare your criminal otherwise. And it's striking 103 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: Number one, this is who Joe Biden is picked to 104 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: lead ATF. But number two, this new rule on the 105 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: stabilizing grips didn't come from Chipman. He hadn't been confirmed yet. 106 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: So this is just the career folks at DOJ at 107 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: ATF listening to the political folks at DOJ that it's 108 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 1: really ominous for the direction the Biden administration is going 109 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: in terms of arbitrary power and hostility to law abiding 110 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: gun owners. Right, this isn't even the entree. This is 111 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: just the appetizer. This is the amuse boush to the 112 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: kind of radical rules we're going to see it. Okay, 113 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know what a namuse Bush is 114 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: well putting putting the boushes aside here. Yes, this is 115 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: a terrible announcement. We'll see when this rule actually goes 116 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: into effect. Hopefully hopefully it does not. But not looking good, Senator, 117 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: if you wouldn't mind now that we've out with our 118 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: freedom of self defense I'd like you to disappoint me 119 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: on another aspect of our freedom. These vaccine passports, Yeah, 120 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: seem to be cropping up on the international stage, and 121 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: there are a lot of politicians in the United States 122 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: pushing for them here at home as well. Now, actually, 123 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: I should say, there is a little glimmer of hope here, 124 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,119 Speaker 1: and it came out of you. You introduced a bill 125 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: to ban this stuff. So I did. I introduced a 126 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: bill that would ban mandatory vaccine passports, would ban the 127 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: government issuing vaccine passports. Now, listen my view on it. 128 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: I support vaccines. I think vaccines are a good idea. 129 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: I've gotten the COVID vaccine. Heide's gotten the COVID vaccine. 130 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: My parents have gotten it, her parents have. God did 131 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: I think it makes sense for most people to get it. 132 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: We've not given it to our girls. Our girls are 133 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: ten and thirteen, actually ten year olds. There is in 134 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: a vaccine that's recommended for kids that young, and I'm 135 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: not sure the cost benefit analysis makes sense for a 136 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: teen ager. But I think whether you get the vaccine 137 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: or not should be a question of individual choice. It 138 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: should be up to you, as as an individual, to 139 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: look at your own health situation and decide do I 140 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: want the vaccine or not? For me, I wanted it. 141 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: I wanted the peace of mind, I wanted the freedom 142 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: that comes from getting it. But you're right, there are 143 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of politicians that are wanting number one, 144 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: the government to issue a vaccine passport, an official thing 145 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: like your passport, like your driver's license. But number two, 146 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: for that passport then to be mandatory for certain activity. So, 147 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: for example, a lot of people are I think understandably 148 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: concerned about airlines. Are they going to not let you 149 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: get on a plane unless you can prove you've had 150 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: a vaccine employment. We have seen instances across the country 151 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: of people being terminated if they don't get vaccinated. And 152 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: my view is that's wrong, that that that that should 153 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: not be permitted. And so what my legislation does is 154 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: prohibits the federal government from issuing a vaccine passport, prohibits 155 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: the government from requiring proof of vaccine status. It protects 156 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: the privacy of your healthcare information. And you think about 157 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: everything else that your healthcare information, that that privacy is 158 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: protected by law. And then it adds whether or not 159 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: you're vaccinated to the list of federal civil rights protections 160 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: that are protected in the course of employment. So just 161 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: like you can't be fired from your job because of race, 162 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: because of ethnicity, because of gender, because of religion, it 163 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: likewise says you can't be fired from your job because 164 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: of whether or not you've chosen to be vaccinated. And 165 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: on this piece, essentially, what the legislation does is it 166 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: incorporates the framework of the Americans with Disability Act. So 167 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: there may be some jobs for which being vaccinated is 168 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: an employer could reasonably conclude that that is necessary for 169 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: that particular job. You know, maybe dealing with patients who 170 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: may or may not have have COVID and may be immunocompromise. 171 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: That might be one example where where you could conclude 172 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: it was reasonable to want care providers to have to 173 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: be vaccinated. But but the way the Americans with Disability worked, 174 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: the way the Americans with Disability Act works is if 175 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: you have a disability, your employer has to make a 176 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: reasonable accommodation. And likewise, if you choose, as a help, 177 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: as a matter of personal choice, not to get the vaccine, 178 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: if my bill passes into law, the employer would have 179 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: to make a reasonable accommodation for that individual choice you made. 180 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: I was so pleased when I saw this headline. I 181 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: really I'm I'm not flattering you in any way, because 182 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: we've seen some moves to ban these things at the 183 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: state level, but we hadn't really seen anything at the 184 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: federal level. And I just thought, the way this issue 185 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: is being presented, you have to either insist that everybody 186 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: get the vaccine immediately to a regardless of circumstance, or 187 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,599 Speaker 1: you have to say that the vaccine is going to 188 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: cause you to grow a third eye in a tail, 189 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: and it's got, you know, the worst thing in the world. 190 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: And what you're bringing into this conversation two very important things. 191 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: Choice that you know, you have faculties of reason you 192 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: can kind of figure some of these things out yourself, 193 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: and prudence, which is a related virtue, the idea that 194 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: for certain people it might make a lot of sense 195 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: to go out and get this thing right away, and 196 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: for other people the risk is just lower. And we're 197 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: free people and we should be able to make that 198 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: calculation ourselves. Well. And look, I can say in my family, 199 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: my dad was pretty skeptical about the vaccine. He didn't 200 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: want to get it and I spent probably a month 201 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: arguing with him, saying, look, Dad, you know you're in 202 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: your eighties. You have been staying home mostly, you've been 203 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: social distancing. You want to get out. He's a preacher, 204 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: he wants to be back out with people. I said, 205 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: you know, you'd be much happier if you get the 206 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: vaccine and you can go out and interact with people 207 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: and return to some semblance of normal life. And ultimately 208 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: he was persuaded. But I think families can work through 209 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: this and consider the pros and cons. Are there risks 210 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: to any experimental drug. Of course there are, and that's 211 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: where rational adults can make their own cost benefit analysis 212 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: and decide what makes sense for now this issue, I 213 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: suppose it's it's more on the conservative side of things. 214 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: I've noticed the left and the Democrats tend to be 215 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: much more more in favor of government mandates generally, but 216 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: certainly with regard to this. Is there any way to 217 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: price some Democrats over to come and support a federal 218 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: ban on the vaccine passports. I don't know. I'll confess 219 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm skeptical. I have not seen any Democrats in the 220 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: Senate expressing concern about vaccine passports. Now, the most promising 221 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: aspect is actually the Biden administration. Jensaki, at a White 222 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: House press briefing said the Biden administration would not be 223 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: requiring vaccine passports and would not be issuing them. That 224 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: the federal administration wouldn't be a shooing them. That's good, 225 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: and so part of what I'm saying as well, Look, 226 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: if Joe Biden is saying this, then we ought to 227 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: be perfectly willing to codify it, to put it into statute, 228 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: and more importantly, to provide some protection so that you 229 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: can't be fired arbitrarily if you choose in your own 230 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: life not to get a vaccine. And in a normal circumstance, 231 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: there would be Democrats willing to protect health privacy that 232 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: that that often is a bipartisan issue. Sometimes protecting civil 233 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: liberties is a bipartisan issue. With COVID, I don't know 234 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: that I'm all that optimistic that Democrats are going to 235 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: be interested in doing so, because they're they're really vested 236 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: in the authoritarian state when it comes to COVID, and 237 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: so I'm certainly going to try. I hope Democrats will agree, 238 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: But but you know, if you ask me, I'm going 239 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: to hold my breath on this Now, I'm not going 240 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: to hold my breath on this one. Well, there may 241 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: be some hope here, I suppose because of the timing 242 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: of this all. You know, I know how much you 243 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: hate to say I told you so. You know how 244 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: much I hate to say I told you so. However, 245 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: we told you so. On this program. We raised a 246 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: lot of questions about the prevailing narrative on the coronavirus, 247 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: on the lockdowns on China, on all of these things 248 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: well over a year ago, and people called us koops 249 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: and conspiracy theorists and rubes and all sorts of things. 250 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: And it turns out that we, and not just us, 251 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: there were other people too, were completely right. And that 252 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: seems to have been proven this week with the release 253 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: of doctor Fauci's emails, three thousand emails obtained through an 254 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: ordinary Freedom of Information Act request. Does the release of 255 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: the Fauci emails change any of the political situation on 256 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: COVID in Washington, Well, let me point out, as a 257 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: matter of logic, just because we were right doesn't mean 258 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: that you and I are not kops and conspiracy theorists 259 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: and a bunch of rubes. Your good point, as the 260 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: old line says, just because you're Parinois does not mean 261 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: they're not out to get you when it comes to 262 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: the origin of the vaccine. Actually went back and looked 263 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: and this podcast in March of last year. We were 264 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: one of the very first podcast news outlets kind of 265 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: outlets anywhere. So we had two different episodes, one in March, 266 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: one in April of last year where we went through 267 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: in real detail the evidence that we knew at the 268 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: time about COVID, about where it came from, and we 269 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: walked through how Wuhan they're two different labs, Chinese government 270 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: labs studying coronaviruses, studying coronaviruses from bats, that one of 271 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: the labs is four hundred yards away from the wet market, 272 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: that the odds were statistically really slim that this was 273 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: a coincidence. And we said on this pod in March 274 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: of last year that the preponderance of the evidence supported 275 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: the conclusion that this escaped from a Chinese lab. Now 276 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm amazed we haven't been banned yet so far. Verdict 277 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: is out there. And I say that midway through this episode, 278 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: and suddenly I may stop mid sentence, So I don't 279 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: know but you look at these Fauci emails. I gotta 280 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: say this, This Fauci guy is a piece of work, 281 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, smug, condescending, willing to control people arbitrarily, and 282 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: the emails. So you have emails where where scientists are 283 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: raising with him in the spring of last year, Hey, 284 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: this virus looks like it may have been manufactured in 285 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: the lab. And actually when we talked about it, we 286 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: broke it down into two aspects of the theory. One 287 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: was did it escape from a lab in other way? 288 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: And two was was it manufactured in a lab? And 289 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: what we said a year ago is we said on 290 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: the ladder, the evidence supports the conclusion. Yes, we don't 291 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: have we don't have direct evidence. We need an investigation 292 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: to determine if that in fact happened, But the proponderance 293 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: of the evidence we have suggest that it escaped from 294 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: the lab. On the first question, was it manufactured in 295 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: a lab? You recall there were several that were Washington 296 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: Post fact checks and others that had scientists saying, we've 297 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: looked at the virus and concluded that based on the 298 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: characteristic of the virus, it's naturally occurring. It wasn't made 299 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: in a lab. And listen, you and I aren't biologist. 300 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: We don't I don't know how to look at a virus. 301 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,239 Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, if the scientists say that, 302 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: I guess that sounds So we said at the time, okay, 303 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm not not maintaining that it was manufactured in a lab. Well, 304 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: unbeknownst to you and me, at the exact same time, 305 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: all of the press was orchestrating these stories. Scientists within 306 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: the NIH were saying, gosh, looking at this virus, it 307 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: looks like it may have been manufactured in a lab. 308 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: And there's something called gain of function research. And I 309 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: think it's worth Michael pausing and reflecting on that because 310 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: people are hearing that term and they don't necessarily know 311 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: what it means. I mean, that's kind of a weird term, 312 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: particularly if you're not a virologist to know what it means. 313 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: And my understanding, kind of a layman's interpretation of gain 314 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: of function research is that you take a virus and 315 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: you alter the genetic code in it, and you alter 316 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: the genetic code to make it more deadly, to make 317 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: it more contagious, You change it to basically turn it 318 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: into a supervirus. And it's a very controversial type of research. 319 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: It is research that FAUCI and congressional testimony insisted, No, 320 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: that wasn't going on in Wuha. No, the federal government 321 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: wasn't funding it, the US federal government, And we now 322 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: know from the FAUCI emails and other sources, Yes, it 323 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: was going on. There was gain of function research going on. Yes, 324 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: the federal government was funding it. Yes, FAUCI was funding it, 325 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: and we now know from the emails. There were scientists 326 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: raising at the time that it appeared this may be 327 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: a virus genetically modified by the Chinese labs to make 328 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: it more contagious among humans, if that's true. Look, it's 329 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: one thing. If if sloppy security at the wuhuant Institute 330 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: for Virology resulted in an accidental leak, that's that's really bad, 331 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: and China bears culpability for the millions of death and 332 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: trillions of dollars of devastation that have come from this. 333 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: But if on top of that, they made the virus 334 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: and then screwed up and let it leak it, it 335 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: is a level of responsibility that is really I don't 336 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: think earth shattering is too strong a term for it. 337 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: And that Fauci was getting emails suggesting at the time, 338 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: and then he would go out publicly and adamantly conclude, no, 339 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: this wasn't manufactured in the lab. We know that it 340 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: occurred naturally. I'm sorry. That's not science. That's propaganda. And 341 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: and and the most disturbing aspect of these fouch emails 342 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: is his consistent willingness to be a propagandist, that he 343 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: has a political message, and it's his decision making is 344 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: not driven by the science, not driven by the evidence. 345 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: He's not going, oh, well, that would be highly concerning 346 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: if it was gained a function. How can we examine 347 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: the virus? How could we examine what the science tells us. 348 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: That's not his concern. His concern was this is a 349 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: bad political story, so let's make sure we quash it. 350 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: And I got to tell you on top of that, Michael, 351 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if you read a story that came 352 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: out a few days ago in Vanity Fair. I try 353 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: to avoid Vanity Fair, but I did not see it now, 354 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: so I'm not a reader of Vanity Fair. I don't 355 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: believe I've ever actually held a copy of the magazine 356 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: Vanity Fair. That being said, there is an investigative journalism 357 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: Peace and Vanity Fair that is jaw dropping that goes 358 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: through the massive cover up that was occurring within the 359 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: federal government, within the State Department with NIH of essentially 360 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: deep state bureaucrats trying to cover up information about GATA 361 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: function research, information about federal taxpayers funding it, information about 362 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: this might be a lab leak. And one of the 363 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: stunning things is the individual Peter Dazak, who received the 364 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: grants from the NIH to do this research. Vanity Fair 365 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: revealed he is the one that organized the list of 366 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: scientists that wrote a letter in Lancet denouncing this theory, 367 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: and he literally was covering his own ass. He was 368 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: organizing a bunch of scientists to put out a statement 369 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: that all of the press treated as conclusive, and that 370 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: Facebook went so far as to ban anyone who disagreed. 371 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: This is propaganda of an Orwellian nature and it's really 372 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: it's corrupt, it's frightening, and it's wrong. You know. To 373 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: be fair to Vanity Fair and other outlets too that 374 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: are left wing outlets, every now and again you will 375 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: get a really great piece in there. And now we 376 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: can see the emails for ourselves. It's also worth pointing 377 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: out on this question of a Michael, how damning is 378 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: it to the Washington Post and the New York Times 379 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: and the self declared arbiters of news that Vanity friggin 380 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: fair kicked their ass like that they actually went and 381 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: did journalism a year and a half late. But it's 382 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: a really good, carefully research story. And are you telling 383 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: me there's no reporter at the New York Times that 384 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: could do this? And they just they didn't care because 385 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: the political narrative didn't suit what they wanted to say. 386 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: And every one of these self declared arbiters of journalism 387 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: who have stacks of Pulitzers on their shelves, ought to 388 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: be embarrassed and they ought to fundamentally, they ought to 389 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: have a public discussion about why they didn't investigate this, 390 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: why they didn't ask these questions, why they stepted the 391 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: government Propagain, I don't believe any of them will, but 392 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: if they had even the tiniest shred of journalistic integrity, 393 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: that's what they should do. I won't hold my breath 394 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: on that, of course, but worth pointing out too before 395 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: before we move on. Not only is there this issue 396 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: of the sort of research that was going on at 397 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Not only is there the 398 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: issue of the total cover up by parts of the 399 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: government and by the media, but you have doctor Fauci 400 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: on record defending this type of research. This is very 401 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: dangerous research. He acknowledged it was very dangerous research, and 402 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: he said it was worth the risk. He said the 403 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: potential benefits outweighed the risk. So I agree. It seems 404 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: like we're all being distracted here. We're all being told 405 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: we have to talk about the passports and all of 406 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: our measures of how we're going to protect ourselves. I 407 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: want accountability. I want accountability from China yep. I want 408 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: accountability from the political operatives in our own government who 409 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: knew about this, who covered this up. Hopefully we'll be 410 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: seeing more of that, Senator before we get to Israel. 411 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: I actually have to take a detour on our way 412 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: maybe to Israel, to take a detour down to Nigeria 413 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: because there was a very strange political story that came 414 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: out there. Twitter is at the moment, for all intents 415 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: and purposes, banned in Nigeria because Twitter took down a 416 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: post from the President of Nigeria and the circumstances of 417 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: this post involved various conflicts and factions and all sorts 418 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: of accusations of terrible things. That's not really what I'm 419 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: interested in. Well, I'm interested in it generally. We can 420 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: talk on some other episode. But here, from the big 421 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: tech aspect, you have Twitter going in and saying we're 422 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: going to censor the president of Nigeria and if you 423 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: don't like it, build your own Twitter. And Nigeria responds 424 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: and says, well, we're going to censor Twitter and if 425 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: you don't like it, build your own Nigeria. Where is 426 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: the freedom here? What is the argument? I mean, what 427 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: can we learn about from this in our own situation 428 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: because we face something very similar a few months ago 429 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: in our own country. Well, you're right, and there's actually 430 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: there's a third and fourth iteration to this. So once 431 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: Nigeria band Twitter, Twitter came back and put out a 432 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: statement denouncing Nigeria and saying that that communicating on social 433 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: media is an essential human right in modern society, which 434 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: which I read and it's it's you know, from Twitter itself, 435 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: and I couldn't help but but retweeting that and you know, 436 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: ironically on Twitter and pointing out that in Twitter's own words, 437 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: they have willfully denied the former President of the United States, 438 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump, what they characterize as a quote essential 439 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: human right in modern society. So that's that's their terminology. 440 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: And I got And today, I don't know if you 441 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: saw Trump put out a press statement crazy Nigeria's decision 442 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: and saying he wished he'd done the same thing when 443 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: he was president, which I don't actually think the President 444 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: of the United States can band Twitter, So I'm glad 445 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: he didn't do that. But it does highlight the the 446 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: abundant hypocrisy a big tech of course, and I do 447 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: I get. I love the sentiment that President Trump put 448 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, if it is not workable in reality, 449 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: I think the sentiment is something that we all agree with. Now, finally, Senator, 450 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: you have answered all of my questions on this individual 451 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: freedom stuff. I have to hear about your trip in Israel. 452 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: We have not spoken in a couple of weeks. You 453 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: were hanging out with cooler, more impressive friends. That's fine, 454 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: notably Prime Minister bb Net and Yahoo, who I believe 455 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: is now about to he's about to leave power. He's 456 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: holding onto power. I have no idea. So last weekend, 457 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: I flew to Israel and spent about two and a 458 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: half days there. And in Israel, I went the first 459 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: day went down to examine where the war fighting had 460 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: been and so went down to the border of Gaza, 461 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: went and met with IDF Israeli Defense forces soldiers, met 462 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: with General Harris, the military attache of the United States 463 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: Army that is down there in Israel. Went to an 464 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: Iron Dome battery, which the Iron Dome is this amazing 465 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: missile defense system that Israel's developed with the United States 466 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: as assistants that shoots down rockets and it has over 467 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: a ninety percent intercept rates. It's an incredible piece of technology. 468 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: And so the first day was visiting all of these locations. 469 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: The second day I was there, I met with various 470 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: government leaders and so met with the Foreign Minister, met 471 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: with the Defense minister, met with Energy minister, met with 472 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: the President the Knesset. But the most interesting meeting was 473 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: the meeting with Prime Minister nat Yahoo And and part 474 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: of what made it interesting is the circumstantial timing. So 475 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: I booked the trip just because Israel had just had 476 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: over four thousand rockets raining down upon it and I 477 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: wanted to go and show my support for Israel and 478 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: to hear firsthand what they needed and what their assessments 479 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: situation was. But the day we're there is the day 480 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: it's announced that essentially there was a revolt. And as 481 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: we sit here today, at least it looks like there's 482 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: going to be a new government in Israel. So what 483 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: happened while we were there is there's this guy named 484 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: Naftali Bennett who leads a small party just has six 485 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: seats in the Knesset, so very small, that is ideologically 486 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: to the right of net and Yahoo. It was announced 487 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: while I was in Israel that he was forming a 488 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: government with the left wing parties, and among the left 489 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: wing parties, he's also forming a government with the Arab parties, 490 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 1: who are sympathetic too, if not actually Muslim brotherhood. That is, 491 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: it's a little bit like maybe a US analogy would be, 492 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: you could say, Mitt Romney forming a government with Bernie 493 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: Sanders because they both hated Trump. That might be an analogy, 494 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: but it's actually starker than that, because it would be 495 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, if tally Bennett is considered, as I said, 496 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: to the right, a bby, so it would be almost 497 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: like I don't know a Jim Jordan forming a government 498 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: with Bernie Sanders. I mean, it's just weird. So they 499 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: announced they were going to do so. Now to do so, 500 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: they had to get a letter to the President of 501 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: Israel by midnight Wednesday night. So my meeting with Bebe 502 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: was scheduled for two pm on Wednesday. So it's the 503 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: day that the opposing government is supposed to file. And 504 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: so we go ahead and go to the meeting with Babe. 505 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: And I actually told him and I I have gotten 506 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: to know Bbe quite well. I consider him a friend. 507 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: He's a remarkable guy. I told him at the beginning 508 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: of the meeting, I said, look, I recognize today as 509 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: a wild day and a consequential day potentially. I mean, 510 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: it was the day he may well have lost power, 511 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: could be the end. And I said, if you if 512 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: we need to cut this meeting short, if you need 513 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: to be on the phone working the votes and talking 514 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: to people who can esset, I'm a big boy. My 515 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: feelings won't be heard. It's good to see you. We've 516 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: got your back, but if we need to end after 517 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: five minutes, I get this is this day is a 518 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: big deal. Totally understood. Yeah, and he actually he was fine. 519 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: He said, no, let's sit, let's talk. I spent an 520 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: hour and a half with him on what may prove 521 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: to be the last day of his prime minister ship. 522 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: And so the meeting, and I was there with Bill Haggerty, 523 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: who was a senator from Tennessee, a Republican who I 524 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: invited to come with me. So the two of us 525 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: were there, and then BB Senior Leadership, and we're in 526 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: the conference room and we have a discussion about Israel, 527 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: about Iran, a lot of discussion about Iran, and a 528 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: lot of concern that the Biden administration is going to 529 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: go back into the Iran deal and give the Aetola 530 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: billions of dollars and that's going to be really dangerous 531 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: for both Israel and America. And I'm very worried about that. 532 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: But then afterwards BB does what he's done before. He says, hey, Ted, 533 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: come on back to my private office. And Bill Haggerty 534 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: came with us too, So the three of us just 535 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: when we left all the staff and just went back there. 536 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: You and I have talked about how previously I went 537 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: back and smoked a cigar with him. We didn't smoke 538 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: cigars this time. But we just went and talked and look, 539 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: he's pissed. It is not complicated that he's pissed, and 540 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: he expressed frustration. He said, listen, and the people voted 541 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: for a majority on the center right and they're about 542 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: to not get that. And he further said he's been 543 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: pushing for a direct election of prime minister. He said, 544 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, if the voters in Israel could vote for 545 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: prime minister, just vote for do they want me to 546 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: lead or not? He thought he'd get north of sixty percent. 547 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: He said, it's not even close. The voters are strongly 548 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: with me, but more broadly than that, and there are 549 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: some parallels to the United States. What he is very 550 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: worried about is if this new government comes in, and 551 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: the final step for the new government to come in 552 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: is the Knesset has to vote, which is expected to 553 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: in the next week or so. Once it votes, if 554 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: they're sixty one votes, there's a new government and he's 555 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: not prime minister anymore. If that happens, Boebe is very 556 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: concerned that their first order of business is going to 557 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: be to change the law in Israel so that net 558 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: and Yahoo can never run. That as he put it, 559 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: they can't beat him at the ballot box, so they're 560 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: going to rig the game so he could never get elected. 561 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: And it's reminiscent of what we're seeing the Democrats doing 562 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: with S one the Corrupt Politicians Act, trying to change 563 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: the law, rig the game so that they can't lose 564 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: an election. He was very unhappy about that. This brings 565 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: us to this mailback question from Christian Hello, Senator Cruz. 566 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of attention put on Senator Joe 567 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: Mansion and to a lesser degree, Senator Kirsten Cinema about 568 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: blocking the Biden agenda, specifically S one hr one with 569 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: the Corrupt Politicians Act. Because of their unwillingness to end 570 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: the filibuster, do you think that they will hold strong 571 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: in their beliefs despite the pressure. I would bet that 572 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: they cave Right now. They're both holding the line, so 573 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: as best we can tell, they're forty eight Democrats prepared 574 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: to end the filibuster. The two who are outspoken against 575 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: it are Kirsten Cinema from Arizona Joe Mansion from West Virginia. Cinema. 576 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: Cinema is an unusual character um She had been a 577 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: left wing activist at times. She wrote a book called 578 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: Gucci Socialist. Um. She wears bright pink and bright purple 579 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: wigs on the Senate floor, but she also fancies herself 580 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: a centrist and and has at least so far. Um 581 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: said she intends to behave like a centrist, and so 582 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: she has. She has said she doesn't want to end 583 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: the filibuster because it promotes bi partisanship. Mansion. Look, Joe 584 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: is a really nice guy. He's affable guys West Virginia. 585 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: Was governor West Virginia before he was a senator. He 586 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: was a the college football quarterback. I mean he's a 587 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, good luck and jock. Everybody likes Joe. You 588 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: can't not like Joe. He's just an easy going guy. 589 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: He actually has a boat, sort of a small I 590 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: guess a yacht, you know though that you could sort 591 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: of laugh at calling something a small yacht, but a 592 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: boat that he has in the Potomac that he periodically 593 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: invites senators to come out and to go like on 594 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: a cruise up and down the Potomac and you know, 595 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: have a glass of wine. And so I've gone out 596 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: with him on it it's it's and he tries to 597 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: get bipartisan senators. Very hard to dislike Joe Manchin on 598 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: a personal level. In the nine years I have served 599 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: with him, he has never once stood up to Chuck 600 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: Schumer on any issue that matters where he's the deciding vote. 601 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: If Republicans have fifty one votes, Joe, give you a 602 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: fifty second, He'll make it bipartisan. I hope they do 603 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,479 Speaker 1: the right thing. Will they? I don't know, a little 604 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: a little pressure might help, a little gratitude and a 605 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: little pressure before we go, Senator, we have mere seconds left, 606 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 1: but I really need your answer on this question. I'd 607 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: be curious to see how you answer this from Patrick says, 608 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: for either of you to answer, do you recommend going 609 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: to an Ivy League school? Given the woke takeover that 610 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: has happened? What are the alternatives? If you want to 611 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: jump start a career, would you would you send someone 612 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: to if you had to do over? Or you you know, 613 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: for a child, would you send your kid to an 614 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: Ivy League school? You know, I would listen. Just about 615 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: every college and university right now is messed up. I 616 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: went to Princeton for college. I went to Harvard for 617 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: law school. I really enjoyed both of them. What I 618 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: generally advise people is go to the best school you 619 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: can get into. I still think that's good advice. That 620 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: an awful lot of what you get in either college 621 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: or grad school is credentially is credentially to get a job, 622 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: to do something going forward. So I was very much 623 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: purchasing the diploma and I learned and the relationships actually 624 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: is I ordered what I was the the commercial transaction 625 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: I was engaged in in in going to school. The 626 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: credential was number one, and number two was the relationships 627 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: the people, the other students who were there, the other 628 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: professors that were there, which which are very beneficial. Um, 629 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: they can open doors, they can uh that it can 630 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: make you know, my best friend in the world other 631 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: than Heidi was my roommate at Princeton and Harvard's got 632 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: named David panton As Jamaican. UM. Incredible guy. And and 633 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: and he was best man at our wedding. And I 634 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: think those relationships are valuable. That being said, the schools 635 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: are worse than when you and I were there, and 636 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: and and I don't know that I would survive at 637 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: an Ivy League school today. That that that that I 638 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: don't really have a great feel for just how whacked 639 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: out the cancel cultural culture is. Let me ask you, Michael, 640 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: what would you advise. You're a new father, so so 641 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: this is not theoretical. You maybe get a little while 642 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: to make that decision, but would you advise, Well, just 643 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: like you, My best man was my best friend in college, 644 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: and I'm the best man at his wedding, and I 645 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: totally agree. The credentialism is a reality, and that's true, 646 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: and the relationships are good, and you can get an education, 647 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: though it seems increasingly tricky. Yeah. Actually, going back to 648 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: the Brooklyn schoolyard guy who was a professor of mine, 649 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: Don Kagan, when he was dean of Yale College, I 650 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: think he said something to the effect of it's getting 651 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 1: increasingly more difficult to graduate from Yale with a liberal education. 652 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: You used to have to have a liberal education to graduate. 653 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 1: Now there's the question of whether or not you can 654 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: even get one. I think there are schools, a handful 655 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: of schools in this country, you know, but there's only 656 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: a handful of Ivy League schools. And I think there 657 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: are schools where you can get or where you are 658 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: more likely to get a better at liberal education than 659 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: at the Ivy League. And you know, the question I 660 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: would ask my son is one ties right in with 661 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. I'd say, what do you want 662 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: to do? What do you want to do? What do 663 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: you want to do with it? What is the purpose 664 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: of this? Yeah, and it's a question that I guess 665 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: increasingly we're not allowed to ask. And a lot a 666 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 1: lot of those rights and liberties and traditions are under threat. 667 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: Hopefully we can hold on to them a little bit longer, 668 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: but we've got to leave that there today, Senator, see 669 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: you next time. I'm Michael Knowles. This is Verdict with 670 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz. This episode of Verdict with Ted Cruz is 671 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: being brought to you by Jobs, Freedom and Security Pack, 672 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: a political action committee dedicated to supporting conservative causes, organizations, 673 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: and candidates across the country. 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