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Speaker 1: What's that at the bed? It's spooky, Jukie. I'm pretty

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, how I.

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Speaker 1: Sa Nandez P Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome

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Speaker 1: to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk

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Speaker 1: to people that I like about the paranormal. This week,

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Speaker 1: I am not just talking to someone that I like,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to someone that I love. Julie Klausner, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, is one of the greatest comedic voices of

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Speaker 1: our lifetime. Of course, the TV show Difficult People, her

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Speaker 1: and Billy Eichner. She created it, she starred in it,

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Speaker 1: wrote it, just brilliant and that's on Hulu. Go watch it.

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Speaker 1: And then she's got a podcast called Double Threat that

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Speaker 1: absolutely kills me. It's her and Tom Sharply every Monday

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Speaker 1: that comes out. It's so funny. Go check it out.

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Speaker 1: You'll see what I mean. I'm gonna just keep this

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Speaker 1: intro brief because I want to hear Julie. So here

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Speaker 1: we go. Here's my conversation with the brilliant Julie Klausner

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Speaker 1: on with the show.

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Speaker 2: You know I'm dating George Santos, right.

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Speaker 1: You're dating George Santo.

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Speaker 2: I felt like I should get that out of the way.

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Speaker 1: No, I feel like that's important. Actually, you know what's not.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna do it. I was gonna do a

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Speaker 1: little intro thing. But I like that. No, I like

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Speaker 1: that better. Let's get into this. First of all, I've

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Speaker 1: been wondering where George Santos was well.

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Speaker 2: In the other room right now. You know, George Santos

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Speaker 2: tried to like he was tweeting out critiques of the

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Speaker 2: fashion at the nerd prom you know America, like the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, you got it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not really, I'm not really.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you wouldn't call it dating, you just you know,

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Speaker 2: My friend bought a cameo. My friend Jesse got a

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Speaker 2: immediately shot up to three hundred and like half an hour,

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Speaker 2: so I hope that he got me one of the

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Speaker 1: He was completely shameless. He would say anything, would are

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Speaker 1: you on cameo?

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Speaker 1: I am on cameo?

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Speaker 2: Will you say anything?

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Speaker 1: I won't say anything, okay, but people will ask you

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Speaker 1: to say things on there, really yes, and I won't

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Speaker 1: that will say a lot of different things. I bought

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Speaker 2: She bless her heart Rest in Paradise.

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Speaker 1: I loved her and she did. She did the best

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Speaker 2: She made me step up my like how well I

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Speaker 2: dance on the hood of a car totally, so it

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Speaker 2: makes sense that it came full circle. But she was

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Speaker 1: Totally, and I'm sure George just loves the way you

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Speaker 2: He makes me take my shoes off. I'm like, these

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Okay, Julie, I'm so obsessed with you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with I mean difficult people of course, but

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Speaker 1: your podcast Double Threat, you and Tom Sharping and you

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Speaker 1: guys watch all kinds of things. You talk about all

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Speaker 1: kinds of things. And I'm trying to think because I've

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Speaker 1: you guys did well. First of all, you covered the

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Speaker 1: I remember her, which is a genuine That was a

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Speaker 1: And she believed that her toaster was writing Satan lives

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Speaker 2: Yes, we had Colby Rebel.

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Speaker 1: It was orson Wells. I believe you guys were trying

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Speaker 2: we also had John Daly on that episode and she

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Speaker 1: Well that's something. Uh what do you think of psychics?

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Speaker 1: Where are you out on that?

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Speaker 2: constantly looking for opportunities to connect, right like totally, but

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Speaker 1: I get that. I like that you brought up the difference.

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Speaker 1: You know, there is a difference between being skeptical and cynical,

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Speaker 1: and I think that everyone should go into all this

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Speaker 2: something that cats tell animal communicators a lot, So I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can believe that. I've seen I've seen videos

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Speaker 1: Well, actually, what you're reminding me of right now is

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Speaker 1: We should bring that back totally. I want that job

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Speaker 2: It was never you know, oh that was the town

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Speaker 1: People do that with psychics for humans too, and they'll

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Speaker 1: do these past lives. It's always like you were an

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Speaker 2: But I have been in so many haunted hotel rooms.

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Speaker 1: Julie, Yes, I did this thing. This TV show that

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Speaker 1: It was horrible because everyone would tell you the stories

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Speaker 1: Renewed your Ted Cirios XM subscription?

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Speaker 2: I like to eat cereals right out of the box.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting ahead of the story. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, right,

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Speaker 1: So at this point he's just basically doing this again.

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Speaker 1: How did he figure this out? I don't know, But

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Speaker 1: But that's the thing. I don't know, because I think

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So basically he's just doing this for anyone that

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Speaker 2: Exactly what he should look like. No facial hair, just

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Speaker 2: So he accudently turned the camera toward himself and he

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Speaker 1: Well he would. They were all selfies. But that's why

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Speaker 2: The concept that he's taking a picture of his own brain.

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Speaker 1: Everything we talk in details, Odie. Okay. So this psychiatrist

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Speaker 1: were either completely underexposed or completely overexposed. So that was

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00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: sort of like a weird thing that he was doing

438
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: just by looking at the camera. And they had a

439
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,239
Speaker 1: scientific term that they coined for these. They call these

440
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: images blackies and whities.

441
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 2: Those are not scientific terms. Those are bad names for dogs.

442
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: So one time, I mean, a person witnessed, well, whatever,

443
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: that's stupid. Let's just get through this. So obviously that

444
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 1: was just stupid. Let's get back to the serious.

445
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: The cereals, the cereossness of the matter.

446
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: So obviously many people are skeptical of them. The leading

447
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: theory was that he had a little transparent image that

448
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 1: he would hide in his gizmo.

449
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the gizmo was more than just a gizmo, but.

450
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: You know, well, one witness said that after hours of

451
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: watching him do these experiments without any results, he noticed

452
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: a shiny little thing inside of Ted's gizmo, and as

453
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: he got more drunk and careless, he kind of caught

454
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: a glimpse inside the gizmo. But the gizmos were often inspected.

455
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: Usually they would have other people like hold on to

456
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: the gizmo until it was time as they were setting

457
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: up the camera. So that's the thing. He would usually

458
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: produce many images, as many as fifty in a series

459
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: of sixty to eighty trials. So you have to imagine this.

460
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: His drunk ass would need to be constantly replacing the

461
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,959
Speaker 1: gizmo with little transparent pictures that nobody nobody saw him

462
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: do that.

463
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 2: That's impressive, that's that's productive.

464
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: So either he's a really good magician or this is real.

465
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he had yes. In other words, sleight

466
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: of hand is more challenging when you're just like rip

467
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 2: shit drunk.

468
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: Totally. Yeah, I don't think you could do that. He

469
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: also would do it sometimes at like a distance, sometimes

470
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: up to sixty six feet. He could do this, so

471
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: he wasn't always holding up his gizmo right up to

472
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: the camera. He said, he basically just wanted someone to

473
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: explain it to him, like he just that's the whole

474
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: reason he was doing this, He said, maybe he'd be

475
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: able to be a spy in the military, or you know,

476
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: he just he just wanted help developing it and understanding it.

477
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: And his defense to the critics was that if he

478
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: was faking it, he'd probably be right more often, and

479
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: then he would start charging people and take it to

480
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: a nightclub and do it as an act.

481
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: And he didn't. He didn't do it as an act. No,

482
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: but he charged people for photograph. It wasn't like he

483
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: was doing this out of the goodness of his own heart.

484
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: I mean maybe I don't. I don't that. I don't know.

485
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: As far as I know, he's just this bell hop

486
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: that discovered he can do this thing.

487
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 2: And now how was he a being a how was

488
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: he as a bell hop?

489
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: Like, let me guess what floor you're uh not great? Yeah,

490
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: this year in the president digital suite exactly, and then

491
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: takes the pic.

492
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: Madam President, what and honor please? Mad President? Honor is

493
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: our first redheaded president?

494
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: That is vot oh no, So he apparently lost his ability.

495
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty seven, they were doing an experiment and

496
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: he created an image of curtains and they both interpreted

497
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: that as that is curtains on the whole thing. And

498
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: he was able to do a couple of blackies and

499
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: whities over the years, and a couple of little images.

500
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: But he died in two thousand and six and his

501
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: photos are now at the Special Collections section of the

502
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: library at the University of Maryland in Baltimore County Walk.

503
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: Chicago, Chicago was robbed. I want I want a heist

504
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: film about this. University of Chicago photography professor loses his mind,

505
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: breaks into the library in Maryland.

506
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: To get the Ted Serios collection.

507
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: Takes all the photos, but Baltimore librarian says.

508
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, just some John Waters lady.

509
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: He rolls him up, eats him like a hot dog.

510
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: Everybody's mad. He can't help it. He's from Chicago. We

511
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: love the dogs. I wonder what happened in nineteen sixty seven.

512
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: I have a feeling it runs with LSD. You know what,

513
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: very changes changes the brand. I don't don't it very good?

514
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: But that's crazy way he done in two and six

515
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: and he was born in nineteen eighteen. What does that mean?

516
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: He was almost one.

517
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: Hundred to long ass life is what it means.

518
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: He was ninety eight for the amount he drank. God,

519
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: God damn good for him.

520
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: Some people have different response. Is the alcohol it'll just

521
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: pickle them and they'll be preserved.

522
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: And some people just I'm jealous.

523
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: I'm jealous too.

524
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: Well, let me just show you real quick a little

525
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: clip of him doing this. So this is from a

526
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: British TV series called Arthur C. Clark's World of Strange Powers,

527
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: and it's a clip from an episode that's called Fairies,

528
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: Phantoms and Fantastic Photographs and it originally aired May twenty second,

529
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five.

530
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, here it is this church in Germany where

531
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 5: Ted had never been. Or this blurred writing identified as

532
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 5: a sign from a Mounties building, but in Ted's version,

533
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 5: the word Canadian seems to be misspelt, so.

534
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: It wasn't always completely accurate. It's the crazy thing.

535
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 4: This is a start a wingerer aplane. This is what

536
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 4: Ted got hold on.

537
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: Who's talking to the psychiatrist?

538
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: Yes, this is jule Eisen drunk, So everybody was drunk.

539
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: This man is clearly wasted.

540
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 4: Here you will notice that the strut here is an

541
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 4: inverted V up here he has reinverted how this type

542
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 4: of rearrangement is exactly what we do in dreams exactly,

543
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 4: don't even trigger.

544
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: It's got a cigarette in his hand.

545
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 5: Dang like that, I got a good Could Ted have

546
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 5: been cheating? Impossible, says Eisenbud.

547
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: He's a better looking guy than that photo kind of

548
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: showed him.

549
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 5: Ted's last photograph was of curtains, but that was ten

550
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 5: years ago.

551
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: That's the curtains.

552
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 5: Okay, can he produce anything now?

553
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: This is from nineteen eighty five. They tried to do

554
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: it again after one thing.

555
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, and that's a person that's a hole

556
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: in something.

557
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 6: He's squeezing and come on, tax we are But all

558
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 6: he got was his face, cover his face, undaunted, Ted

559
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 6: and jewel work on into the night.

560
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: What point do you think Juel Eisenberg's wife left him.

561
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 4: We did this night after night for three years.

562
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: Oh, Ted's drinking right from the bottle, so they get out.

563
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: The bug is that like moonshine.

564
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 4: The sessions would last six eight hours and at the

565
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 4: beginning nothing would happen.

566
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 5: But later in those original sessions, weird pictures would often emerge.

567
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 5: How did it happen?

568
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: All right?

569
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 1: Anyway?

570
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: Wow?

571
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: Basically that's the story of Ted Cirios.

572
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: That's the story of two guys hanging out, getting drunk,

573
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: pretending to do science.

574
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: But what I love is that he was observed by

575
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: all kinds of you know, scientists and doctors and whatever.

576
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: And sometimes, you know, they would get enough to be like,

577
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: oh that's interesting. But most of the time he was

578
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: just like falling over. Some of these reports say that

579
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: he was just like calling he was fighting with the answer.

580
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: He's calling him names.

581
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: Oh they got he got into it. It was like,

582
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,479
Speaker 2: oh good, a new sparring partner.

583
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: Dum bitch, you don't know. I swear god, I could

584
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: do it.

585
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I saw, what I saw in Berlin, it

586
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: was not good.

587
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: And I show you right now. Squeeze. Hey, Julie, can

588
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: I show you a haunted doll?

589
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: You sure can't. But before you do, I just wanted

590
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: to say, with the ted serials of it, I think

591
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: it's art. I think it's all art. I think he's

592
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: an artist making art, and people are trying to impose

593
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: scientific structures and magic onto what is art with it

594
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: kind of idiosyncratic process behind it. That's my take, But.

595
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: We don't know. So do you think that it's performance art?

596
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: The part of it where he says it's real, and

597
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: it really is coming out of his brain and it's

598
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: not like.

599
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: I don't think that you need to believe something is

600
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: false for it to be false. So there's absolutely a

601
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: world in which he's completely under his own spell. And

602
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: I think that that makes it, you know, more interesting,

603
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: But that doesn't necessarily make him not Like I don't

604
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: want to say, Charlotte Han like, I you know, what

605
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 2: would be not fun to me? And this is what

606
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: I think makes me the difference between like a cynic

607
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 2: and a skeptic, or I hope it does. It would

608
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: not be fun for somebody to like debunk this and say, well,

609
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: this is how he did it, Like I don't. I

610
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: don't have the ability. I don't have the desire to

611
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: like strip away what makes something fun and interesting for

612
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 2: people by exposing it to sunlight sometimes, you know, there

613
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: are people that are into that, And I do think

614
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: the people who expose people that do magic can sometimes

615
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: do it out of a place of love, Like I

616
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: think Ricky Jay, you know, loved magic and card tricks

617
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: and everything. But he would also sort of tell you

618
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: how certain things were done. He'd say like, well this

619
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: is you know how this like you know, mind reading

620
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: thing is done, and this is a scam that people

621
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: used to do and like rise and that was kind

622
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: of like historically interesting. But he was sort of celebrating

623
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: while he was debunking. But there's also a kind of

624
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: a person that's like, well, that's you know, they're just

625
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: kind of pooping on someone's party, And I don't want

626
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: to be that person.

627
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what the Amazing Randy do you know about?

628
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 6: Yes?

629
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: I love the Amazing Randy. Oh is he coming on

630
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 2: the show. Let's get the Amazing Randy show.

631
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: He has not that long ago. I loved I loved him,

632
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: and he was like the debunker of all debunkers. He

633
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: was the coolest, but he he actually I'm sorry to

634
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: burst your bubble.

635
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: But he you're gonna have to do a seance and

636
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: he's gonna be like this is bullshit and be like

637
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: then why do I hear you saying real? Uh?

638
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: He was a debunker of of Ted Cirios.

639
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and then Ted Sirios was in debunker when

640
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: he overseas for our Freedoms, So let's thank him for that,

641
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: not the Teddy Bear.

642
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: Amazing Randy tried to debunk it and apparently failed on

643
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: television and he tried to do the gizmo.

644
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: We've all failed on television before.

645
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: Just rehab. Amazing Randy did a lot of that with

646
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: like have you seen the documentary about him?

647
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: Yes, and I've seen the one was like the Uri Geller.

648
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: Thing, right, Yes, there's that, But like my favorite part

649
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: of that documentary was there was like the religious guy

650
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: that was kind of doing this like, oh, over here,

651
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: we got someone named Julie, and Julie lives on this

652
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: street and whatever. And then he amazing Randy figured out

653
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: that the guy had like a little ear piece and

654
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: the guy's wife was being like, over to your left,

655
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: her name is Julie or whatever.

656
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy was like stalking me. He knew where

657
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: he lived.

658
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: But like this guy, that guy was making money. He

659
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: was like selling out these big ass like a knows

660
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: or whatever. And that's where it's like, yeah, you're kind

661
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: of like scamming these people, and.

662
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if you have an earpiece, it's officially a scam.

663
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: It's no longer a trick. It's a scam. You can't

664
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: use an ear piece and expect it to be like

665
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: woo mad cadabulary. No, you are milking people out of

666
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: right ear piece.

667
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: I know, but that's why like magicians, I'm always fully

668
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: convinced that that is the second coming of Jesus Christ.

669
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: Every time I see a magician do something I don't understand.

670
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: But that's the fun of it is that you know

671
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: it's not real. And then thanks to that, do you

672
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: remember that fucking the masked magician?

673
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: Oh sure, that piece of shit, that piece strater?

674
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that man?

675
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: What did they find out who he was and like

676
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 2: kill him in some sort of weird like Roseberry's baby

677
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: kind of way.

678
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, they probably chopped him in half, but for real,

679
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 1: they put him in a box, chopped him down the middle.

680
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: I was thinking of something more like Alistair Crowley cut

681
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: but I like the idea that they just chopped him

682
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: in a head. They put him in a box and

683
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: cut him in out. That's a lot less elegant.

684
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: Well, they're they're probably like, is this fake? How's this?

685
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: How's this one done? Math magician?

686
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 2: Try to walk away?

687
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: Now, Okay, let's get to a haunted doll. Please, it's

688
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: time for a segment I call the dolls are living? Okay, So, Julie,

689
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: I go to eBay dot com. I type in the

690
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: words haunted doll, and there are thousands of postings at

691
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: all time. Oh my god, this time we got a

692
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: two for one special geehaw, could you please show us

693
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: this week's doll. We have two of them. We got

694
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: Trixie and Madge.

695
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: Oh, Madge is bored.

696
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: They both look incredibly bored.

697
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 4: Now.

698
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: Trixie is sad. Madge is bored.

699
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: This is the true reality of show business.

700
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: Match is also like me. She don't know how a

701
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: contour this is. She just like does her best walks away.

702
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: Just look, what am I gonna do? You know? This

703
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: is a it's a blushbrush. It's not a magic wand.

704
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: But she's good at some of it. I think the

705
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: eyes in the and the brows are good.

706
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, she's great at the eyes, brows, and lips.

707
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 2: It's just the contour. She's just like, fuck it, I

708
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 2: can't you know what about what am I gonna trick people?

709
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: Who am I? Who am I fooling? With this face,

710
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: with this shape, with this face shape, This haircut too,

711
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 2: a great haircut for someone of the round face unless

712
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: it is. And she looks amazing. Actually, she does look amazing.

713
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: I love her. She's beautiful. They're both beautiful.

714
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: So these two are harlequin clowns. Yes, they both have

715
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: on very elegant very they're sort of Sasha a Loore

716
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: like or just poofy.

717
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: I don't think there is form fitting as Sasha.

718
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 1: That's true.

719
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: There definitely is a lot more fabric on these girls.

720
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: They're they're modest. They're modest girls.

721
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: But very like I don't know, non binary. I don't

722
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: really know what's going on with these two. Like they're

723
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: they're gender bending sort of, and they've got they're beautiful,

724
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: sickening headpieces. But the best part of it is that

725
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: they they look so incredibly uninterested.

726
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: They're bored and said, and I thought you were going

727
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: to say. The most interesting part is that their feet

728
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: are all going the wrong way. Their feet are walking

729
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: away as they look at you bored, which is something

730
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: I relate to because when I'm bored, my feet want

731
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: to walk away too.

732
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: On a doiley. They're both resting on a doily.

733
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: The other thing I relate to do I rest on doiley.

734
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: Well, here's the best part. They come with backstories, these

735
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: these dolls, and oh my goodness, it's my belief that

736
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: this whole eBay haunted doll thing. You are given three

737
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: options when you die Heaven, hell or eBay doll. And

738
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: these are two real people that have died and they

739
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: are now in these dolls. So let me read you

740
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: their little bio. It says, the honor is mine to

741
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: introduce Trixie and Madge. This hilarious duo will keep anyone

742
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: entertained and on their toes hilarious. They both have powers

743
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: to heal and dispel any sadness and anxiety. One may feel, my.

744
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 2: God that I said they have both had podcasts. I

745
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: thought you're saying both have podcast o. Wait, oh god,

746
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: I have to listen to both of these.

747
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 1: Well, it really sounds like it, because it says Tricksy

748
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: is more she's more dainty, she's more a girlish nature. Yes,

749
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: Madge is sarcastic and outspoken. Okay, as opposite and personalities

750
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: they may be together, they are really does so like

751
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: I'm reading a podcast description, I love it to gather.

752
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: These two are perfect. They love to gossip and chatter

753
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: into the late of night. At times you can hear

754
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: Tricksy singing quietly and Madge, of course telling her to

755
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: tone it down. They are ready to move to a

756
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: home where they can fulfill their purpose in afterlife, which

757
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: is to bring happiness to others afterlife.

758
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: They even mentioned the afterlife. They admit it.

759
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: This is their afterlife. So okay, so please like and

760
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: subscribe and rate their show five stars on Apple Podcasts.

761
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and say, Tricksy singing softly is

762
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 2: upsetting you know. They're like that. She's singing like moon River,

763
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 2: something like creepy and sad, and the other one to

764
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: say tone it down.

765
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: Is tone it down, girl. You're already wearing everything.

766
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: Not a proportionate response to her singing both parts of

767
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: tonight you belong to me somehow.

768
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: You're like, how does she do both? The voice?

769
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: Shut up? Shut up?

770
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: Tone it down, Tone it down, girl.

771
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: I think they're great. I have no notes. I like

772
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: both of these haunted dolls. I love what they're wearing.

773
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: I love their attitudes, I love their makeup, I love

774
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: their feet.

775
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: If I was to buy these for you, would you

776
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: accept the gift?

777
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I'm not scared of these dolls. Oh my gosh,

778
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: I'm not scared of these dang dolls. Maybe I need

779
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: to I'll fill them with I'll fill them with catnep

780
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: see what my cat has to say about it.

781
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: Tone it down, yeah, I tone it down. They're thirty

782
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: five dollars together or separately together, that's if I was

783
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: to bid.

784
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: How big are they? How large are they?

785
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: They look teeny tiny?

786
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: They look small.

787
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: I mean I do know that Madge is more of

788
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: the girlish petit one. Let's see here, Oh, or fifty

789
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 1: dollars buy it now? I will live.

790
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 2: No, don't buy fifty dollars worth of this. Don't don't please,

791
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 2: don't do that. Wait, the one with the short hair

792
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: is Madge.

793
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 1: To be honest, it does not spass fie.

794
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: But okay, right, can you write to the cellar and

795
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: ask which one is Madge?

796
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: Very important? We need to know who is who before we.

797
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: Can considering bidding on these lovelies. But need to know.

798
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: I just realized that the one has a tear drop tattoo.

799
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: That's a cool tattoo.

800
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: And then the other one has a heart tattoo on

801
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: her cheek.

802
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, which one means that you've been in prison?

803
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,959
Speaker 1: I forget? Yeah, which one of these has been in prison?

804
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: But that's the thing, Julie. If fifty dollars you're not

805
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: just you're not getting two dolls. Yeah, you're getting two

806
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: dollars whatever. Fine, but you're getting two best friends. Oh yeah,

807
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: so you can't really put a price on that.

808
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: Are they friends or sisters?

809
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 4: You know?

810
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not. I feel like they're coworkers. This reminds

811
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,959
Speaker 1: me so much of my days, like working in theme

812
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: parks or like different jobs I've had, okay, or like

813
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: you're you're in the ensemble of a musical. Yeah yeah,

814
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: and you're just fully done up and you're like, all right,

815
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: we're both a little hungover waiting for you. Yes, that's

816
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: what we all.

817
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: Is this a metaphor for life? All dressed up and

818
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: no place to go?

819
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: Exactly?

820
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: Sad clowns?

821
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: They're just like, is this what being a clown doll

822
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: on eBay is? Because we thought that was gonna be fun?

823
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: Is that all there is? Yeah?

824
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 1: Hey, can I play you some ghost voices? Yes, it's

825
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: time for EVP or ev please. Have you ever heard

826
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: the term EVP? No, it stands for electronic voice phenomena.

827
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: So basically, when a ghost is speaking and somebody believes

828
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: they have captured the recording of it, that is what

829
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: we call in the business Electronic Voice Phenomena EVP. Got it.

830
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: So people not unlike haunt dolls, will they they'll post

831
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: this stuff online. I got two of them for you.

832
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to play them for you, and then I

833
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: want you to tell me what you hear, and then

834
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: I'll give you an ABC option of what they believe

835
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: it said, one of them being the correct answer. Okay,

836
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: So this is from s piops one on YouTube, and

837
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: I believe they're a paranormal investigation group. It seems like

838
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: they're based in New York somewhere I don't know. This

839
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: was at the Redwood General Hospital and they captured the

840
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 1: ghosts saying this. What is it saying?

841
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: Julie one more time? Please? Sure?

842
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: Okay, Eddie guesses just by listening.

843
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I've heard that on my voicemail

844
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: many times from a fellow fellow or two. It's a.

845
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: Well, what of these is the correct answer? Do they

846
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: think it was a Oh you're gonna get it?

847
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: Wait? Let me hear that one more time? Please? No,

848
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: there's no, it's not good. There's no gut and get it.

849
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: I didn't hear a gut? Okay?

850
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: Did they think it was b don't forget I'm dead though?

851
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: Can I hear that one again? I want to. I

852
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 2: want to think of it while I'm listening, is okay? Okay,

853
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't hear though. I don't hear though.

854
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: At the end, this makes the most sense actually to

855
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: do it this way.

856
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: Okay, good because I need to like have it fresh

857
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: in my head totally. Oh, I don't hear okay.

858
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: So not don't so you don't think it's a Oh

859
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna get it. B don't forget I'm dead though? Okay,

860
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: now is it C boys, I've gotta confess ession?

861
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 2: Mmmmmm Oh, that's definitely the closest one.

862
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: We there's one. Mar Is a d oh, you're all offended.

863
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like one of these ghosts of a comedian. Oh,

864
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: you can't say anything anymore.

865
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 2: That's not that, Rose. If you had a goofball, you

866
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: take it. Pop shots in that Netflix not a joke, Rose.

867
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,959
Speaker 2: I don't know who told you Netflix was a joke,

868
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: but it's not. It's a very serious company and they're

869
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: doing important work.

870
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: Okay, so wow, that sounds like triggered match. Julie can't

871
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: say anything anymore.

872
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: You can't say anything. They should replace the thump thump

873
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 2: at the beginning with oh you're offended? Wait what it was? Say?

874
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: Now, I will say, tune into the Netflix documentary Outstanding,

875
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: which is the history of LGBTQ comedy. It comes out

876
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: in June and I am featured in it.

877
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: Amazing. Okay, so which one of those do you believe

878
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: the second to last one?

879
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: Okay, boys, I've got a confession. Yeah, that is exactly

880
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: what they thought. It said, Oh, boys, let's play it, and.

881
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 2: Who are the and who are the boys? Boy, I've

882
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: got a confession. I'm not worrying any underpads.

883
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 1: Okay, let's hear it now that we know it's boys

884
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: have got it confession?

885
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 2: Well, and I was like, boys, I got confession. Like,

886
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: there's no Rhythmically, it's not perfect, but it's definitely the closest.

887
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I've heard listen, I've heard promise as,

888
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: I've heard worse anything.

889
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: It could be.

890
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: They could have dropped out the a like, so boys

891
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 2: have got confession. You know it's probably that.

892
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: I think it's good. Okay, here's one more from the

893
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: same group of people on safe YouTube channel. This is

894
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: at a place and now you might need to help

895
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: me if you know, I don't Is it Governer New York.

896
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 1: It's a part of New York.

897
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: Oh, governor Governor New York is I don't know. It's

898
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: not about a thousand I know what you mean. I'm

899
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: not a thousand percent sure about the spelling, but.

900
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: I know what you mean. Like, it looks like governor,

901
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: but it's.

902
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 2: Spelled the governeur.

903
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a yeah, Well it's a fancy governor. And

904
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: this is at a location called Chili Dogs with the

905
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: z Yu Yah, which is now out of business. But

906
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: it was a family restaurant that serves chili dogs I

907
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: would hope so, and it also served the other side.

908
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:56,479
Speaker 1: Uh so what is this? Chili Dog goes saying, okay,

909
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:56,959
Speaker 1: it's sure.

910
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 2: What is this? He said? Sweet potato? He said sweet potato? No, no,

911
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 2: is that not on the list?

912
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Let me play it again. That has

913
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: to be sweet potato, right?

914
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 2: Is that one of the choices?

915
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 1: That is not one of the choices?

916
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 6: Why not?

917
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 3: It's what you said.

918
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: I know it sounds like sweet potato to me, but

919
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: is it a super weird no? Do you want to

920
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: hear it or should I just go through the yeah? Yeah,

921
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: because you sound pretty convinced it sweet? No, but I

922
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: want to I do want to go again, though, so

923
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: is it super weird?

924
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: Could be? It could be?

925
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: Is it be zip it?

926
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 2: Dear? Not a chance though?

927
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: Is it c sit there?

928
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 2: I've never heard sweet potato more clearly in my life.

929
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 2: I mean what, I've ordered a sweet potato at a restaurant.

930
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: I haven't heard it said more clearly.

931
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: We have one more option, is it d this chili

932
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: is fierce?

933
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: It's sweet potato. I would bet my I bet my bippy.

934
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: Wow, the bippy's coming out.

935
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm putting it all on the table for for e

936
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: sweet potato.

937
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: It definitely could be. Listen, we don't know. But of

938
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: those options, which one do you think it is? Do

939
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: you think it's super weird?

940
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 2: The first one super weird, super weird?

941
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: Okay, they believe it was c sit there. Okay, now

942
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: that we know that, more time there. Now it's sweet potato.

943
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: Put it. Put that in the comments of the YouTube,

944
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: sweet potato, over and over and over in the comments

945
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: till they block you seriously at the sweet potato, dumb dumbs.

946
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: Because also they're calling a chili dog plays. Look up

947
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: the menu of chili dogs with the z and tell

948
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 2: me if they hadweet potatoes on the menu, because if

949
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: they did, then this conversation is Olah. This lady was

950
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 2: literally ordering something. Right, He's like the most like, you

951
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: don't need to be detective Colombo to put or two

952
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: together here. It's a food she's calling a restaurant. Is

953
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: not inconceivable that a place with chili dogs would have

954
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: sweet potatoes on the menu. It's not my kind of restaurant.

955
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: Just kidding as it is.

956
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: Julie kill me. Colombo is my number one in inspiration

957
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: as a paranormal investigator because Colombo was the skeptic of

958
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 1: all skeptics. You think so, yes, he was so sarcastic

959
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: the way he was always just like, oh, really, that's

960
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: what happened.

961
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: And then they never thought of it that way.

962
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: I thought that he knows the second the episode starts

963
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: what happened.

964
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 2: No, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. I

965
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 2: guess I just never thought of his like acting dumb

966
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: as being a phone thing. It just kind of seemed

967
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: like his nature like to be curious and open and

968
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: he's like the simple child. Not but but I but

969
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying, Like in a way. He

970
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: was like, kind of faking it.

971
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: I feel like he's so sarcastic.

972
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: Yes, it's kind of passive aggressive.

973
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: Passive aggressive. Yeah, you're right, you're right, he's very just like, Wow,

974
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: that happened. That's I can't even I can't believe something

975
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: like that would have happened.

976
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: But isn't that a tribute to like how desperately we

977
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 2: need people to be nice? Is even when you know

978
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: they're faked, still feels good. That have your you know,

979
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: your butt kissed.

980
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: Totally, which reminds me. I'm going to take a picture

981
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: right now of Colombo dingus with my giz mo. Oh boy, well,

982
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: let me just do one last thing here. I just

983
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: want to hear some of your thoughts on various paranormal

984
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: okay things as part of this. You know, in this

985
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: world of the paranormal, we haven't even taught aliens UFOs.

986
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: What do you think of that?

987
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: Oh, I think they're out there. I want I want

988
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: to meet one. I want them to make contact with me,

989
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 2: because everybody seemed to have contact, but old Julie. That's

990
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: what I see out there is Oh I got invited

991
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 2: to this party, and oh I see the photos on Instagram.

992
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:20,959
Speaker 2: That must have been a good time.

993
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 6: Oh.

994
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 1: I have major alien fomo. Anytime I hear these people

995
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: that think they're so like traumatized because they got taken

996
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: up there, I'm like, you're this is your bread. It's

997
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 1: called a humble brag. Actually is what you're doing.

998
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: It's et fomo is what I said. That's what I

999
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: have to.

1000
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god, have you ever seen Et? Have I

1001
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: seen Et the movie? Yes? Of course I'm not the.

1002
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 2: Guy, although I'm sure he's around La you see him

1003
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: for ET? Oh?

1004
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: Actual Et? That that actual.

1005
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 2: He was in a huge movie.

1006
00:55:58,880 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1007
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 1: I used to do drag with him, did you Yeah?

1008
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: After him with his wig and his little hat.

1009
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 2: Oh, he was so cute when he dressed up like

1010
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: what did Drew Barry Morris dolls? Yeah, no, there was.

1011
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 2: There was an episode did you ever see the Tonys

1012
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 2: that Ellen Coming hosted with Kristin chennowt oh, of course

1013
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 2: and she dressed up like Et.

1014
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: It was so funny, absolutely.

1015
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: To introduce fun home and she came up by oh

1016
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: and then last it was the best joke that's ever existed,

1017
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 2: Like amount of work. Oh, it was just like that's

1018
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: my robot Empire.

1019
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: I definitely have the photo of her with like the

1020
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: head off, like back stage, like I have on my

1021
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: phone and I'll.

1022
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 2: Always keep that on. I forget which contact I assigned

1023
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 2: it to, but it's somebody.

1024
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's possible. You could go up there and

1025
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 1: all of these creatures take off their heads and Kristin

1026
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: Channowett is in there and there's just a bunch of

1027
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: little Christian.

1028
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 2: But explain her talent. It would blame her talent.

1029
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: That's just out of this world. Okay, what do you

1030
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 1: think of big Butt. I think he's funny, my favorite comic.

1031
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: I think he makes me laugh. He's got a goofy way.

1032
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's all about leave him wanting more, you know.

1033
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: He he just sort of appears, yes, very little, definitely, Yeah, tall,

1034
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: dark and handsome and harry and he's he kind of

1035
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: sees you and he wants see you, and then you

1036
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: don't see him for a while and his fear big

1037
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: and yeah, sexy, sexy, sexy.

1038
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is kind of the best because when he

1039
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: does appear, it's like this guy like you. Yes, no

1040
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: one ever says, oh God, Bigfoot's.

1041
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: Back, you know, No, No, they're always excited and You're

1042
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 2: absolutely right. He's always he always leaves him wanting more,

1043
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 2: and he's also kind of like that quiet, quiet, tall guy.

1044
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very into that. Yeah, what do you think

1045
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: of psychics? Going back to it, I'm just wondering, have

1046
00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: you been to one?

1047
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 4: I have.

1048
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 2: I've been to people that have read my tarot cards,

1049
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 2: and I've been to people that kind of use tarot

1050
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 2: cards while they're like talking to me.

1051
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: Do you believe in that?

1052
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: I think ultimately you're having a conversation with another human

1053
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: being who has a new insight into you, and that's

1054
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 2: always an exciting experience to have, right, I think there's

1055
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 2: benefits to it. But do I believe in it? I'm not.

1056
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I have faith, but I am certainly like,

1057
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, probably not, probably not. But the door

1058
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:40,959
Speaker 2: is never the door is never.

1059
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: Completely shut when it comes to like synchronosities. And are

1060
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: you someone that goes, oh, what a coincidence? Or do

1061
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: you like maybe entertain it a little bit?

1062
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: I think it depends on where I am in the moment,

1063
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 2: and if I need a sign, then I'll read a

1064
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 2: sign totally.

1065
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: Have you ever had any moments that come to mind

1066
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: where you're like, that's more than a coincidence.

1067
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: Oh boy, uh, I wish I could think of a

1068
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 2: specific one. But but sometimes I'll be thinking of someone

1069
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 2: and they'll reach out or I'll be you know, my friend,

1070
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: my best my best friend. Nate and I have have

1071
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: a friend that's no longer with us. His name is

1072
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 2: was David, and so every once in a while, Nate,

1073
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: I'll be like, oh, like David, David reached out today,

1074
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 2: Like we you know, we got like a little message

1075
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 2: from David in the form of you know, like Eliza

1076
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: Minelli song popping up, or you know, we have like

1077
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 2: his bench downtown that will find that we were passing,

1078
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: or you know, like things like that are always comforting

1079
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 2: because you feel like you have a connection with people

1080
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: that are no longer here. Yes, but yeah, I think

1081
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: it's the same way. It's like, if you need it,

1082
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 2: that's how you'll see it, and if you don't, you'll say, oh,

1083
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: that's funny, totally.

1084
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: It's comforting and fun to like entertain that stuff.

1085
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 2: It should be and if it's not, then that's when

1086
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: you kind of pull back and say, like, wait, how

1087
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 2: much money did I give this person? Or you know

1088
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: what am I planning. Why can't I do this until

1089
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Speaker 2: August again? Or things that are affecting you in ways

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01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: that might not be great, then that's a problem totally.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think we should just end it on that,

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Speaker 1: because you gave me a lot. You gave me so much.

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01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 2: I'm so happy I could give you the gifts that

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 1: These are so many gifts you being on the show.

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Speaker 1: And I want you to tell people where they can

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Speaker 1: find you and what you want them to know.

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Speaker 2: I want them to know that I co host Double

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Speaker 2: Threat with Tom Sharpling, and I think I have more

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Speaker 2: podcast stuff coming later this year. And I'm on social

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01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: media for some god a reason. I having to do

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Speaker 2: with my mascos or se prove self promotion. Right, that's

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Speaker 2: why I'm on social media.

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Speaker 1: I love your social media.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. That makes one of us, because it don't

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01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: make me happy, Riz. I find myself scrolling and I go, wow,

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Speaker 2: I feel terrible. Imagine doing something every day for hours

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01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 2: and being like that makes me feel bad. You just

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Speaker 2: stop doing it, wouldn't you anyway?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a normal person would a normal brain. But we're

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Speaker 1: all picture, we all feel this way.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's good to know. Oh, and Difficult People is

1113
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,439
Speaker 2: available on Hulus. You should watch my show Difficult People.

1114
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 2: I created that show from my heart and soul.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you star in it with Billy Eichner, and it's

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01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: so funny and thank you. People absolutely need to check

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Speaker 1: that out. But your podcast that I listen to NonStop,

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01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: I feel like it's not just like you and Tom.

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01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: Like you guys have like a full universe you've created

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Speaker 1: with car and it's a where do you think people

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01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: should start? Should they go all the way back to

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Speaker 1: the beginning or just jump in?

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Speaker 2: That's a good question.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of references. I'm just trying to think

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Speaker 1: how people can jump on the wave and ride it because.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, that's a good question because there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of inside jokes and things like that.

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Speaker 1: Right, I don't know. I just think that people need

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Speaker 1: to just pick one and get in, and you'll.

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Speaker 2: Know pretty soon any episode you pick if it's for

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Speaker 2: you or not. Because we've got big personalities and we

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01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 2: have our rapport. We know each other well enough to

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Speaker 2: kind of build something together. And if you you know,

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Speaker 2: if you smell what the rock is cooking and it

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01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 2: don't make you nauseous.

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Speaker 1: And keep eating my favorite chef.

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Speaker 2: That's what I've always said. Yes, I'm so glad you

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01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you're a fan of the podcast. It's

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Speaker 2: it's really fun to do.

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Speaker 1: I'm a fan of everything you do, and now I

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01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: am a huge fan of you talking about ghosts and

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Speaker 1: thank you for doing this.

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Speaker 2: It's my pleasure. I had a blast. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Julie Klausner. Hey, make sure

1145
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: you're rating us five stars and doing all that good stuff.

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01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm still trying so hard to become famous on Instagram,

1147
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: so please follow me at Roz Hernandez, and of course

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01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: follow the show Ghosted by Roz and as always, that

1149
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: is the instagram where you can see o were haunted

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01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: dolls every single week. I love you all, both living

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01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,

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01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: don't haunt me, hey By, this has been an exactly

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Speaker 1: right production. Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast.

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01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: I read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you.

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01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: So email me at ghost It by Roz at gmail

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01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: dot com. You can send a DM or voice message

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01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: to the show's instagram at Ghosted by Roz. Give us

1158
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: a follow while you're there and follow me Roz on

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01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: Instagram at roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at

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Speaker 1: it's Roz Hernandez. My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee.

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Speaker 1: Associate producer is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was

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Speaker 1: mixed and sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My

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Speaker 1: guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support

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Speaker 1: from the hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music

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01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: is by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by

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Speaker 1: the Spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen.

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Speaker 1: Executive produced by the Chilling Karen Kilgaro, the Spookky Georgia

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Speaker 1: Hard Start, and the Frightening Danielle Kramer.