Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Studio presented by I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: I'm your host Joe Levy. Okay, I know it's January,
Speaker 1: but quick flashback to Christmas. I'm not sure how Santa
Speaker 1: treated you around my way. He brought more supplies for
Speaker 1: Inside living, like a new dish rack, because it really
Speaker 1: looks like we'll be living inside for a while longer
Speaker 1: and there are always dishes to do. But if you
Speaker 1: didn't get exactly what you needed, then Jake Bug, the
Speaker 1: guest on this episode of the home edition of the show,
Speaker 1: has a suggestion find yourself a musical instrument, because that's
Speaker 1: what's been keeping him grounded. We started the home edition
Speaker 1: of Inside the Studio to let you know how the
Speaker 1: pandemic has impacted the lives of artists and how they're
Speaker 1: coping with life during lockdown, and Jake says that songwriting
Speaker 1: has been a real lifesaver for him during this period.
Speaker 1: He talked with our Quarantine correspondent Jordan Rundog about drawing
Speaker 1: inspiration from all sorts of places, sixties psychedelia, current electronic music,
Speaker 1: and about what he learned from working with producers like
Speaker 1: Rick Rubin and Dan Auerbach from The Black Keys, and
Speaker 1: also why lockdown has made him interested in carbo loading.
Speaker 1: It's not what you think. As always, If you enjoyed
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Speaker 1: Radio podcast that Jordan's hosts is called Rivals Music's Greatest Feuds,
Speaker 1: and it is available wherever you get your podcasts. Hello everyone,
Speaker 1: my name is Jordan run Tog, But enough about me.
Speaker 1: My guest today released his self titled debut in when
Speaker 1: he was just eighteen years old. The retro tings tracks
Speaker 1: showcase a talent and soul beyond this age, leading to
Speaker 1: collaborations with production titans like Rick Rubin and Dan Auerbach.
Speaker 1: He's in the midst of recording a new album, this
Speaker 1: time with producer Andrew Watt, who has previously worked with
Speaker 1: the likes of postmal Loan and Cardi b. His latest
Speaker 1: batch of songs move beyond the folky, gut bucket blues
Speaker 1: of his early work and draw from the psychedelic sounds
Speaker 1: of sixties San Francisco bands like Jefferson Airplane. You can
Speaker 1: get a taste on his new single All I Need.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to welcome Jake bubb Thank you, Oh Jake,
Speaker 1: how are you today? Thank you so much for coming.
Speaker 1: How does this day in Lockdown find you today? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's okay, so yeah, just another day of many more
Speaker 1: of them to come. But I think maybe, well I'm
Speaker 1: speaking for myself, but feeling a little more relaxed now
Speaker 1: Christmas is coming up and maybe spend some time with
Speaker 1: the family. Hopefully that's that's wonderful. Yeah, that's the best
Speaker 1: part of this time of year. Uh. You released recently
Speaker 1: released a new single, All I Need, and I was
Speaker 1: particularly taken by the first line, call me cynical but original,
Speaker 1: trying to fit into a world that's so digital. I
Speaker 1: consider myself an old soul, so that's sentiment really resonated
Speaker 1: with me. I want to ask you what that line
Speaker 1: meant to you. Do you see yourself as an analog
Speaker 1: man trying to fit in a digital world? Because I
Speaker 1: definitely do. Um no to a point, But I think
Speaker 1: it's more about, you know, the times moving so so quick,
Speaker 1: and it's it's very difficult to sometimes keep up. You know,
Speaker 1: it goes for many things. I mean, you know something
Speaker 1: that you know it was okay to say yesterday, maybe
Speaker 1: not tomorrow or something, and you know, and that goes
Speaker 1: for social media and things like that. So, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just about everything moving a little too quick and trying
Speaker 1: to fit in where you can. I suppose I love
Speaker 1: that track. That that riff, it's like a lost Dave
Speaker 1: Davis riff or something that's such a great tun Uh.
Speaker 1: You've said that the song is about being completely engaged
Speaker 1: in something, being like lost in that moment of flow.
Speaker 1: Has song writing been a source of soulace for you
Speaker 1: during this really stressful, bizarre time. Absolutely. I mean I
Speaker 1: actually consider myself quite lucky to to be able to,
Speaker 1: you know, to sit down and win an instrument and
Speaker 1: write songs, and in this period of time, it's just yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a lifesaver really for for me mentally.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't know what I do without it,
Speaker 1: to be honest, And I kind of urge everybody to
Speaker 1: go out and get an instrument. Have you been feeling
Speaker 1: productive musically? I know that a lot of people, I
Speaker 1: know they're either feeling like super productive or the other
Speaker 1: alfort just you know, all right, I put my pants
Speaker 1: on today, it's a good day. How have you been
Speaker 1: feeling the film productive? Bit of both? I kind of yeah,
Speaker 1: the weekends of pants days, I try and keep a
Speaker 1: little bit of a balance. So but yeah, I've been
Speaker 1: working on music for a film about a Brazilian soccer
Speaker 1: player called Ronaldinos, So that's kind of it's kept me
Speaker 1: very much, kept me very much busy, and and also
Speaker 1: I love my soccer and he was a great player.
Speaker 1: So it's just wonderful to be part of something different
Speaker 1: and and something as cool as that. Really, how does
Speaker 1: composing music for a film differ for for just writing music?
Speaker 1: For you, It's it seems like a lot more a
Speaker 1: technical of as the world just kind of composing to
Speaker 1: a really specific medium. What's that been like for you?
Speaker 1: It's been great, to be honest, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: completely different way of looking at music. For example, like
Speaker 1: when I'm looking when I'm working towards a scene, um,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's it can be quite difficult because
Speaker 1: this scene it might have some tension, it might be
Speaker 1: quite dark. But along the way to writing the piece
Speaker 1: for the for the scene, I might create two or
Speaker 1: three things that I'm like, oh, that's really good, but
Speaker 1: I have to just leave it alone because it doesn't
Speaker 1: work with the film. And um, and in a way,
Speaker 1: it's kind of been this music's kind of been a
Speaker 1: little bit more for me because I don't have to
Speaker 1: listen to my voice for so long. It's nice to
Speaker 1: have a break, to be honest, there's no singing, so
Speaker 1: it's been good. How has the pandemic impacted your ability
Speaker 1: to to write and record? You have a home set
Speaker 1: up or yeah, so yeah, just a couple of months
Speaker 1: seven as you're using now, and an s M fifty
Speaker 1: seven as well, and the symphathizer and a couple of
Speaker 1: percussive bits, but nothing too big. It's nice to it's
Speaker 1: like a little workstation more than anything. You've worked with
Speaker 1: some incredible producers, I mean Rick Ruben down our back
Speaker 1: and most recently Steve mac What are some crucial lessons
Speaker 1: that they've they've sort of taught you about about production,
Speaker 1: or that you've learned through watching them To be honest
Speaker 1: that it's kind of I've learned a lot from these guys.
Speaker 1: But it's also impacted my my songwriting a lot as well.
Speaker 1: Thinking in that vein just because a lot of the times,
Speaker 1: you know, as musicians, we try and make things a
Speaker 1: little too complicated for ourselves and we forget that sometimes
Speaker 1: you know, the listeners just want, you know, the main
Speaker 1: body of the song. They just want you to get
Speaker 1: to the point. They want to hear the bits they
Speaker 1: like and and working with Steve mac and people like
Speaker 1: that have kind of made me more aware of getting
Speaker 1: to the point a little more and simplifying things more
Speaker 1: than anything, rather than you know, you don't always need
Speaker 1: that extra cord or you don't always need that extra
Speaker 1: note in the riff. So it's a it's a good
Speaker 1: way of looking at it now like an editor almost yeah, also, yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty much. But it's but as I say, it's impacted
Speaker 1: my writing. It helps me to if I can think
Speaker 1: like that as in the writing process, then it just
Speaker 1: it just saves a lot of time when you get
Speaker 1: into the studio as well. Always curious with people who
Speaker 1: can who can write music. Are you superstitious at all?
Speaker 1: Is there a certain guitar that you like to use,
Speaker 1: or a certain room you like to be in, or
Speaker 1: a time of day? Is there something that you feel
Speaker 1: is like I don't want to say lucky, but I
Speaker 1: guess superstitions the word I should use or is that?
Speaker 1: Is that completely out the window? I think I used
Speaker 1: to me when I was younger, but it just started
Speaker 1: driving me too mad. I used to I used to
Speaker 1: play soccer a lot, and obviously in soccer there's a
Speaker 1: lot of superstition. Isn't this so growing up? And then
Speaker 1: one day I was just like, I've I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's just driving me mad, So I let all
Speaker 1: that go. But you know, I kind of have certain
Speaker 1: things I like to like when I'm like a concert,
Speaker 1: I always like to make sure we end on a
Speaker 1: high song rather than a sad song and things like that,
Speaker 1: but not so much superstitions. Prior to Lockdown, you were
Speaker 1: working with producer Andrew Watt in the States, who's worked
Speaker 1: with people like Cardi B and Post Malone. With your
Speaker 1: name is that people wouldn't ordinarily associate with your music.
Speaker 1: What's that collaboration been like. Has it radically altered your
Speaker 1: your work process at all? Yeah? Absolutely, it's It's been
Speaker 1: great because it's given me a totally different perspective. More
Speaker 1: so anything, it was working with Andrew, what it was,
Speaker 1: it was just really fun more than anything. There was
Speaker 1: always a high energy around. There was always great musicians
Speaker 1: stopping by and playing, and you know, Chad Smith would
Speaker 1: come by and just play on the kit for us
Speaker 1: a little bit and it was. It was, It was
Speaker 1: absolutely brilliant and and that that was That was a
Speaker 1: good thing for me to be in a studio where
Speaker 1: the energy is very high, because a lot of the
Speaker 1: time in the past it's just been me sat down
Speaker 1: with the guitar of somebody or on my own. So
Speaker 1: it was a great way of working. Had a lot
Speaker 1: of fun Chad Smith you mentioned from the Drummer Chili Peppers,
Speaker 1: and and Pete Thomas too from the Attractions and I
Speaker 1: was Costello on the Impastors. What was it like having
Speaker 1: those guys on the kid It was brilliant, it was funny.
Speaker 1: I think it worked. Playing with those guys just helped
Speaker 1: me to improve as a musician. Like you know, if
Speaker 1: you if if you can't, if you can't stay in
Speaker 1: time with Chad Smith, then it's probably it's probably not
Speaker 1: It's probably not for you music because he's like the
Speaker 1: tightest drummer that is so and he hits the really
Speaker 1: hard as well. Sometimes he came to play a show, uh,
Speaker 1: I think it was like a lot of the Two
Speaker 1: Loser tour in South America and he had a show
Speaker 1: in Argentina and he just chucked dropped by the show
Speaker 1: and played on the drums and my sound guy to
Speaker 1: turn him all the way down because he was that
Speaker 1: loud in this club. I don't think he had any
Speaker 1: of them in the p A to be honest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he's got that guy knows how to project. I
Speaker 1: guess that's the way I'll put it, for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. I know you're working on your new album.
Speaker 1: How would the sound compare to some of your work
Speaker 1: that's come before, specifically your your your first two albums.
Speaker 1: Is it radically different sonic departure for you? I think
Speaker 1: sonically yes, definitely. It's one thing I was that I
Speaker 1: wanted to achieve with this new album, was I wanted
Speaker 1: to take it, you know, everything that was about me,
Speaker 1: my DNA and all the music I love, but try
Speaker 1: and we'll put it into there now really and try
Speaker 1: and modernize it into of its production. And I just wondered,
Speaker 1: how could I bring all those older influences and all
Speaker 1: the music that I love into a into a more
Speaker 1: modern sound. And working with people like Andrew Watt and
Speaker 1: Steve mac and things like that have really helped me
Speaker 1: to I believe, achieved that. So I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: strive for that really and and see what happened. I
Speaker 1: read an interview where you you gave here you're talking
Speaker 1: about the songs are recording now, and that the only
Speaker 1: through line that you were able to really sense in
Speaker 1: it was an influence of Jefferson Airplane, the great sixties
Speaker 1: psyche rock, San Francisco psyde rock band. What is it
Speaker 1: that attracts to you to that that psychedelic sound? I
Speaker 1: love it too. I don't know. I guess it's I
Speaker 1: think I loved it so much when I was a
Speaker 1: teenager and it was just such a a great escape,
Speaker 1: and like, how are they getting these sounds? Um and
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's you know, it's drum, kick, guitars, bass,
Speaker 1: and but I was just always wondered how they got
Speaker 1: such a trippy sound out of it, And and I
Speaker 1: thought that I thought it was something that's maybe lacking
Speaker 1: in today's music, a bit more psyched psychedelia. I thought,
Speaker 1: why not make it a little more trip and a
Speaker 1: little bit on the darker side. So and that's why
Speaker 1: also working with the Camel Fat guys for the for
Speaker 1: the House song that I did with them, it was
Speaker 1: it was it was very much that it's more darker
Speaker 1: lads and a little bit trippy aside. So I really
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I love the trick you did with Camel
Speaker 1: Fairs someone. What was the response from the electronic community
Speaker 1: with that? Did they embrace you with with open arms? Surprisingly, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would. I wouldn't usually say yeah even if they did,
Speaker 1: but in this case, I was very surprised we played.
Speaker 1: I did. I came out and played with them at Coachella,
Speaker 1: and and the crowd well, I think I think anybody
Speaker 1: could have been singing on the stage and they would
Speaker 1: have been having a great time, to be honest, But
Speaker 1: it was nice to be part of. And then we
Speaker 1: played in Ibifa and and it just felt very strange
Speaker 1: to perform without a guitar, just a microphone and and
Speaker 1: doing a dance song of all things. So it was
Speaker 1: just it was a great experience, and it was I
Speaker 1: think it was good for me to, you know, push
Speaker 1: myself out of my comfort zone a little as well,
Speaker 1: giving back to the psychedelic vibe. I love the videos
Speaker 1: you've heard recently with the with the filmmaking collective High Art,
Speaker 1: the ones for rabbit Hole and the Saviors for the City.
Speaker 1: They're incredible. They remind me of an Alex Gray painting
Speaker 1: or something. What what was the background with with those
Speaker 1: How did you you first link up with high Art. Well,
Speaker 1: that was the first instance was we had to do
Speaker 1: a what they call a vertical video now for like
Speaker 1: Spotify and things like that, for for for the Camel
Speaker 1: Fat song. Um, so they already had their video and
Speaker 1: then we had to do it was like an extra
Speaker 1: video bit of content they wanted. So I met them
Speaker 1: through that and I love what they did, and and
Speaker 1: I and I just I just love their ideas for
Speaker 1: the same kind of principle really and psychedelic, crazier effects
Speaker 1: going on lights and and also you know, an underlining
Speaker 1: dialogue as well, but nothing that takes away from from
Speaker 1: the song at all, which is important to me. I
Speaker 1: don't like. I don't like videos that have their own
Speaker 1: concept that's derivative from the music, or or that has
Speaker 1: too much dialogue. I think it should be open for interpretation.
Speaker 1: I believe. I mean, it supports your music in such
Speaker 1: an incredible way. It's it's some of the most amazing
Speaker 1: videos I've seen in a very long time. I loved
Speaker 1: Saviors of the City came out in the spring, right
Speaker 1: when the world was going in the lockdown. It felt
Speaker 1: so perfect for the global situation. But that song has
Speaker 1: been around for for quite some time, right, that's the yeah,
Speaker 1: it has and that that was the interesting thing about it.
Speaker 1: We kind of written it, had written it um and
Speaker 1: kind of as a it's like a post apocalyptic kind
Speaker 1: of song really, and and then when when it kind
Speaker 1: of got released in yeah, in the spring, it just
Speaker 1: kind of took on this whole different meaning and how
Speaker 1: people were messaging me, going, oh, you've really captured out
Speaker 1: things are I'm feeling and it's I didn't even write
Speaker 1: it for that but aarly, but yeah, it's pretty apt.
Speaker 1: At the moment, I thought it's gonna be tough deciding
Speaker 1: which songs to release at a time like this, because
Speaker 1: on one hand, you don't want to come across as
Speaker 1: you know, sort of flipping, but in the other end,
Speaker 1: you don't want to add to the darkness too. That
Speaker 1: must be a difficult needle the thread. Absolutely, yes, I've
Speaker 1: got many songs ready to go, but I think we
Speaker 1: we was very conscious of that when releasing All I
Speaker 1: All I Need, because yeah, it's really not a time
Speaker 1: people want to feel even sadder and down, So it
Speaker 1: was quite conscious of that and just wanted to give
Speaker 1: somebody people something a bit more energy and a little
Speaker 1: bit more be Really, you started recording when you were
Speaker 1: what eighteen? Are there any songs from from when when
Speaker 1: you from earlier in your career that have had the
Speaker 1: meanings really changed for you over the years and evolve.
Speaker 1: I guess yeah. I remember one of the songs we
Speaker 1: did with Rick Rubin on the second album, Shangol are
Speaker 1: simple Pleasures that wasn't that wasn't even a single or anything,
Speaker 1: And so when we play it live, it's like it's
Speaker 1: kind of a crowd favorite. We kind of play it
Speaker 1: second to last and stuff, and it's one of those
Speaker 1: where they sing along to the riff, which is always fun.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was never a bit single release and
Speaker 1: that's totally taken on its own life. I might have
Speaker 1: even accidentally stuck a ten minutes solo in the end
Speaker 1: of it sometimes, but but it's just it's just a
Speaker 1: nice and fun one that we enjoy playing so and
Speaker 1: no ten minutes solos that I made that up. Maybe
Speaker 1: next time may next time out there may Yes, when
Speaker 1: the first gig back, hopefully everybody will be so happy
Speaker 1: to be back at a gig. They'll they'll tolerate a
Speaker 1: ten minutes solo. Who knows. I mean, that has to
Speaker 1: be just so tough for you not having you know,
Speaker 1: that that access point with with with the fans, that
Speaker 1: that face to phace connection. What's been been filling that
Speaker 1: space for you? Um? Yeah, it's been difficult. And to
Speaker 1: be honest, that filling that space has just been the
Speaker 1: support on on the social platforms really from from my
Speaker 1: audience and my fans and honestly, um, from my own
Speaker 1: personal opinion, I couldn't ask for a better better fans
Speaker 1: really in terms of when things haven't been going my
Speaker 1: way and maybe I haven't released the music that they
Speaker 1: want to, they're still very much, very supportive, supportive of me,
Speaker 1: and and uh and I've stuck with me and it's
Speaker 1: a it's been It's been amazing. Really, I can't ask
Speaker 1: for much more. So I want to say thank you
Speaker 1: to them. If any of them listening, well, then let
Speaker 1: me ask you this. If you haven't been touring for
Speaker 1: a while, to make that paying a little less well,
Speaker 1: what was your your biggest performance mishap, biggest like spinal
Speaker 1: tap moment where everything was going wrong on tour on
Speaker 1: the stage, funny enough, like on stage it's never been
Speaker 1: too bad, but we've definitely had some spinal tap moments
Speaker 1: where we haven't been able to find the stage and
Speaker 1: and things like that. Honestly, it's it's certainly let's rock
Speaker 1: them roll. Oh no, it's that way and so, but
Speaker 1: on on stage, I'm trying to think it's been. In fact,
Speaker 1: the one spinal tap moment for the end of the
Speaker 1: set I used, he played my song Broken from the
Speaker 1: first album, and it's a moment where the band walk
Speaker 1: off and and they have five minutes or whatever, and
Speaker 1: then after the song they come back on, and so
Speaker 1: they all come back on. I'm like, where's where's Robo,
Speaker 1: where's the where's the bass player? And and he'd gone
Speaker 1: out for a cigarette. He'd gone out for a cigarette
Speaker 1: outside a fire door and it closed behind him. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's that sounds like a nightmare. Did Did
Speaker 1: he ever make it back on? Yeah? He made it
Speaker 1: back on, but I was just like, what were you doing?
Speaker 1: He goes, sorry, I got locked outside. I was like,
Speaker 1: there's there's like two three thousand people waiting in that's
Speaker 1: there's plenty more as well. I'm sure they'll come to
Speaker 1: me later on. No, you came from a very musical family.
Speaker 1: Was there a moment when you knew that that music
Speaker 1: was going to be your path or was it always
Speaker 1: a given? Was this always something that you knew you
Speaker 1: wanted to pursue it. To be honest, I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: it's how of confidence or anything like that. But from
Speaker 1: the age of thought fourteen, I knew it's what I
Speaker 1: wanted to do. Whether or not i'd be doing it
Speaker 1: to this level or not, I really didn't know, But
Speaker 1: it didn't matter to me. I just wanted to I
Speaker 1: wanted to see the world and I wanted to play music,
Speaker 1: And unfortunately that's happened, and and to a degree that
Speaker 1: I couldn't have wished for. Really, So I'm yeah, very
Speaker 1: very grateful for the opportunities. But I always know i'd
Speaker 1: be doing it even even if we were doing the
Speaker 1: toilet tour, we'd still be doing it. And I think
Speaker 1: that's what I think. That's what somebody somebody mentioned to
Speaker 1: me many years ago. They said, if if you're happy
Speaker 1: to stay in the terrible hotels and play the small gigs,
Speaker 1: and you're happy doing that, then it's probably for you.
Speaker 1: I know early on one of your earliest musical influences
Speaker 1: was Don McLean, most famous probably for writing American Pie,
Speaker 1: but so many other incredible songs. Empty Chairs, Vincent. You
Speaker 1: think you recently appeared in the Classic Albums documentary about
Speaker 1: the American Album. I just want to ask you, what
Speaker 1: was it about his work that that that touched you
Speaker 1: so deeply? For me, I think it's it's hard to
Speaker 1: describe when when you feel an emotion or emotions convey
Speaker 1: to you through song, it can it can be very
Speaker 1: difficult to describe why you like it or why I don't.
Speaker 1: But I think that's what I felt. I felt sincerity
Speaker 1: behind the songs. I felt connection, and most of all,
Speaker 1: they were just very beautiful melodies with great lyrics and
Speaker 1: and I think that's just what spoke to me is It's. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's quite difficult to describe. Really, What have you been
Speaker 1: been listening to during lockdown? I've been finding myself returning
Speaker 1: to songs I haven't listened to in ten years, like
Speaker 1: musical comfort food, I guess. But have you been feeling
Speaker 1: that way too? Yeah, I've been trying to well, because
Speaker 1: I've been working on the documentary for the for the
Speaker 1: soccer for Ronaldino soccer Player. I've been able to learn
Speaker 1: and listen to a lot more samba and Boston over
Speaker 1: and things like that. So Gilberto, yeah, exactly, that that guy.
Speaker 1: I've been I've been rinsing his albums this year. I
Speaker 1: think he was the top like top artist on the
Speaker 1: Spotify raps for me or something like that. So that's
Speaker 1: been great. But also I've been trying to find something
Speaker 1: a bit more up, So a bit of Funkadelic and
Speaker 1: stuff like that been coming up, which is cool. Um
Speaker 1: and and and I'm trying to been listened to a
Speaker 1: bit more modern music as well, Like you know, Baby
Speaker 1: Rose is really cool, and Phoebe Bridges has got some
Speaker 1: really nice stuff as well, so trying to listen to it.
Speaker 1: I need to listen to a bit more modern music.
Speaker 1: But but saying that, you know that the old stuff
Speaker 1: is great. Oh yeah, I can't beat your seventies drunk.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I love Bill Withers. He's one of my favorites.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, that voice that was I was.
Speaker 1: I was so sad earlier this year when it when
Speaker 1: he passed. He's an absolute legend, absolute legend, and fortunately,
Speaker 1: fortunately enough, I was I was looking enough to on
Speaker 1: my third album play with James Kadson, his drummer. It
Speaker 1: is like my favorite drummer of all time, and it
Speaker 1: was just a dream come true. It was just and
Speaker 1: sometimes it would just be me and him jamming in
Speaker 1: the room. I was like, this is just ridiculous, sad,
Speaker 1: I have no business being sat in this room with
Speaker 1: this guy right now. So absolute pleasure. And drummers, Man,
Speaker 1: You've got some incredible drummers, Okay, Pete Thomas, Yeah, set
Speaker 1: the one I have for Live Funny. Who else? Who
Speaker 1: are the heroes of yours that that you've been been
Speaker 1: able to meet or play with? Oh, I've been, I've been.
Speaker 1: I've been very fortunate. I worked with I worked with
Speaker 1: Might D from the Beastie Boys at one time, which
Speaker 1: is like you would never I would never think like
Speaker 1: it would be even why would that even happen? But
Speaker 1: but but Mike's a great guy, and I love working
Speaker 1: within such a fun energy to to be around in
Speaker 1: the studio. And you know, toured with No Gallagher, which
Speaker 1: was great. That's pretty awesome. And yeah, I've had quite
Speaker 1: a few opportunities that are a bit spoiled. Really, has
Speaker 1: there been a I guess I'll call silver lining with
Speaker 1: this whole sort of slow down time for you, being
Speaker 1: able to stay a little more stationary and stay harm
Speaker 1: as there there's been any upside to this for you?
Speaker 1: I guess I've been more productive, but because yeah, because
Speaker 1: I'm so used to traveling like a lot, Like I'm
Speaker 1: really like desperate to go somewhere now. And to be honest,
Speaker 1: London has always been more of a convenience for me
Speaker 1: than a place I wanted to live. So yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: love to just I'd go anywhere you know, i'd go.
Speaker 1: I'd go farm sheep on an island. Have you asked
Speaker 1: me to They've got a New Zealand. Yeah, that sounds brilliant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they wouldn't let me in. Oh yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: My last question. And I've been asking everyone this and
Speaker 1: it's been so everyone that I've spoken to for the
Speaker 1: show about this, and it's been so fascinating to hear
Speaker 1: everybody's different answers. And if you could snap your fingers
Speaker 1: and everything go back to the way it was this
Speaker 1: time last year, back to normal, whatever your definition of
Speaker 1: normal is, what would be the first thing that you
Speaker 1: do in places, you'd go people, you hug anything at all.
Speaker 1: That's a good question, is because I've been thinking about, like,
Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I even shook somebody's hand,
Speaker 1: so you know, so, but I'm not saying that's what
Speaker 1: I go back and do. But yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: what i'd do, to be honest, I'd probably just make
Speaker 1: sure I do enough pastor at home because everyone was
Speaker 1: stealing it. Really everyone was stealing. Why not stealing, no,
Speaker 1: but everyone was buying pastor in bulk in there. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they were in the States, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like why pastor as well? But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a I never thought of that. Oh yeah, we had
Speaker 1: can goods and toilet paper over here, but not pastor.
Speaker 1: I don't think I hadn't heard that one. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: toilet paper was pretty scarce as well, to be honest, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they even put on a limit of how
Speaker 1: many could buy after a while. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a hard one because I wouldn't really go back
Speaker 1: and the anything different because before life was great, Before
Speaker 1: I was I was touring and playing shows and making music.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I wouldn't change anything. I don't think we'll
Speaker 1: get your back out there soon. Jake, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for your time to day. It's been such a pleasure. No,
Speaker 1: that's absolutely pleasure talking to you now. Thank you very much.
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