Speaker 1: From my high school team. We have five guys make
Speaker 1: the NBA. We head the County Rocket gets some meta
Speaker 1: of basketball. Here are those who come before us, upon
Speaker 1: whose shoulders we stand. It's nothing that you can do
Speaker 1: to stop the competitive and there's just in the water. Yea,
Speaker 1: my brother Jack back. All the smoke just getting started, baby,
Speaker 1: just getting started. Welcome back to a special quarantine edition
Speaker 1: of All the Smoke coming to you from l A.
Speaker 1: Myself and my brothers out there in the A t L.
Speaker 1: What's up with your brody? Man? Excited? Man, I'm just
Speaker 1: really excited about this show. Man. I'm really excited about
Speaker 1: who we got on the show today. Man. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm already think I got hands in. I laid
Speaker 1: a couple of people out, but not like my brother
Speaker 1: that we got on the show today. And to do
Speaker 1: some man, that's your guy. I appreciate what we've been.
Speaker 1: People have been asking for him, I've been asking for
Speaker 1: him and you delivered. Man. So to tell us to
Speaker 1: our guess this today, man, you know I represent the
Speaker 1: long Star state man, you know, the big Texas state man.
Speaker 1: And this is my brother, champion, young champion, but gonna
Speaker 1: be here a long time. Man, my brother Aero Spence. Man,
Speaker 1: welcome to the show, Man, the town's own man. What's up? Man?
Speaker 1: Was going on? Glad that you had me on Man,
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on the show, Champ, no problem. So
Speaker 1: how is everything? How are you handling this lockdown quarantine
Speaker 1: situation with you and your family? I'm handling pretty well.
Speaker 1: I mean this it is like trying the camp to
Speaker 1: me when I'm using training the camp, we don't down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't locked down. We won't do nothing. So I've
Speaker 1: been training. I think I lost about fifteen pounds already,
Speaker 1: so really, yeah, I'm taking a real serious. My auntie
Speaker 1: and my uncle that coed Corona and my cousin New
Speaker 1: York co Corona too. But that's it. They're doing fine
Speaker 1: right now. So you know, everything's been going with prayers
Speaker 1: for them. Man, prayers up to him. So he said,
Speaker 1: they all recover from it. Oh, yeah, they all recover
Speaker 1: from me. So I'm happy. You're also going to spend
Speaker 1: time with kids. Yeah. Man, My two babies three or
Speaker 1: four years old, and uh, you know, we've just been
Speaker 1: spending a lot of time together, going outside, running around.
Speaker 1: You know, they've been in the house, trapped in the house,
Speaker 1: can't go to school, so they just been tearing everything
Speaker 1: up inside the house. So now let him get away
Speaker 1: with a few things up. So what's so, what's training like?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I know you said you've
Speaker 1: been training. What's that like today? I mean, you know
Speaker 1: you uh, with everything going on, all you can do
Speaker 1: is train like it's different from like when you're training
Speaker 1: for an opponent. Now you're just trying to just to
Speaker 1: stay in shape, to stay on top of things. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm actually trying to just lose weight because
Speaker 1: I'm a guy get high and when I get to,
Speaker 1: like to the hot one eight is probably one of
Speaker 1: these seats. So right now trying I'm running two times
Speaker 1: a day, running the morning time three miles and running
Speaker 1: at night about four or five miles and a sauna suit.
Speaker 1: And then when I go to the gym, were just
Speaker 1: hitting the bag and then I'm hitting the midst twenty
Speaker 1: thirty minutes with my coach. But it's just me and
Speaker 1: him in the gym like nobody else going there. I mean,
Speaker 1: I shot out the DJ shot the DJ DJ. That's
Speaker 1: a connection I got. Um. He came to a couple
Speaker 1: of Big three games and uh and made him plugged
Speaker 1: up a night and then we admitted a couple of fights.
Speaker 1: So shouted to your train of DJ manybe here. Good dude,
Speaker 1: he slid. Dude, appreciate that. So you're fully healthy right now,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously depending on this pandemic. Do you guys
Speaker 1: have a target date of uh, next time you're supposed
Speaker 1: to get in the ring. Oh, it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: either October and November. I don't really have a target
Speaker 1: day yet. You know, I got to a bad accident
Speaker 1: last year, and I told me tim, I got to
Speaker 1: a bad accident and then, uh, you know that kind
Speaker 1: of delayed my return. I supposed to come back ain't
Speaker 1: that January, but then I got hurt. So I've been
Speaker 1: out for a while. So in all actuality to pandemic
Speaker 1: really been helping me out a lot, and basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: recovery and just you know, taking my time to get back.
Speaker 1: But I'm already back on my hundred percent. I went
Speaker 1: to a facility in the Cleveland where they checked me,
Speaker 1: I'll check my brain, give me mr eyes and things
Speaker 1: like that, and everything went will so you know, everything's
Speaker 1: doing good. I think no restriction, no restrictions, right, no restrictions.
Speaker 1: No my training set spawn I can't spare yet because
Speaker 1: I got my teeth knocked out. I actually got to.
Speaker 1: I got They put two posts in my mouth, with
Speaker 1: three posts in my mouth, and I'm waiting on them
Speaker 1: to heal. And once they healed, then I get my
Speaker 1: my permanent teeth, and then I'll be able to just
Speaker 1: bro I've been there. I've been, I got, I got,
Speaker 1: I got, I got into the shoot. I got hit
Speaker 1: by a caring Indiana knocked off my teeth out. So
Speaker 1: I've been there broto Now. They had to put post,
Speaker 1: but I had to have platic surgery on my lips
Speaker 1: and my teeth and no anesthesia for two hours. Well
Speaker 1: talk to us, take us back to that that night.
Speaker 1: Obviously blessed to still be here. I think the world
Speaker 1: has seen the actual accident, uh October two night team
Speaker 1: you escaped with your life and a funny not funny,
Speaker 1: but you know I've heard people speaking you speak on
Speaker 1: not wearing a seatbelt possibly saved your life. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I talked up well man, just being reckless. I just
Speaker 1: want to just be the shann porter, so you know
Speaker 1: the hell of Yeah, I want somebody on that too.
Speaker 1: I want somebody at it appreciate this, so I'll just
Speaker 1: be shown porter. So you know, I feel like I
Speaker 1: want to top the world, you know, having from my friends.
Speaker 1: We're going places. We just came back from from Miami.
Speaker 1: I dropped my flor I had a friar for eight
Speaker 1: you know how fast those are, and something haven't had stops.
Speaker 1: And then they just flipped. They just flip flip flip
Speaker 1: flip over. And then I got objected from the car
Speaker 1: m because it was convertible. I got jected from the car,
Speaker 1: and then you know the rest of history. I woke up.
Speaker 1: I woke up in a in the hospital, and I
Speaker 1: don't even remember being a hospital. I don't think I
Speaker 1: remember being at home three weeks later. So, so what
Speaker 1: kind of what what? What? What damage to your body?
Speaker 1: You spoke un knocking your teeth out, any other major damage? No,
Speaker 1: no other major damage to you. I think Angel with
Speaker 1: me because I didn't bring any bones, um, no fractures,
Speaker 1: no anything. You think it was hurt like my neck,
Speaker 1: My head was hurting, both of my shows hurting. All
Speaker 1: this was scraped up. My shoulder was scraped up. My
Speaker 1: lads is scraped up, but you know I came back.
Speaker 1: I came you know, basically, you know, on scathe like
Speaker 1: I mean, because I should have lost my life there night,
Speaker 1: and I definitely lost my life to night if I
Speaker 1: had a seabed on. Man, let's take a step. Let's
Speaker 1: take a step through right back before that situation in
Speaker 1: September twenty nine. You know, the youth like you said,
Speaker 1: you are unified the belt beat Seawan Porter in the
Speaker 1: hell of a fight. Um talked to us about that experience. Man,
Speaker 1: that that was. That was a crazy fight. Jack and
Speaker 1: I both obviously shouted you out. You know, I've been
Speaker 1: a fan four minute, Jack been a fan four minute.
Speaker 1: We were. We did all little shoutouts. But but to
Speaker 1: be able to watch you to go to war and
Speaker 1: you come out on top and and and pick that belt.
Speaker 1: I've talked to us about that. It was a great fight.
Speaker 1: I think I made a lot harder than it was
Speaker 1: supposed to be because, um, you know, just the way
Speaker 1: drop I came down from I think hunting eighty nine pounds,
Speaker 1: you know, the hunting at forty seven. So in the
Speaker 1: matter of probably nine weeks, so the whole training camp
Speaker 1: was running two times a day, you know, hitting the
Speaker 1: bag and the signing suit, you know, just training and
Speaker 1: signing suits and just just plenishing myself, losing weight, and
Speaker 1: I just made a lot harder than what was supposed
Speaker 1: to be and um, you know, I could have made
Speaker 1: a lot easier. It was a great fight. You know,
Speaker 1: we both showed a lot of heart in the term
Speaker 1: when nation. I know he's been kind of for a rematch,
Speaker 1: but unfortunately that's gonna have to wait. You know, I
Speaker 1: got a lot of so I don't want to see
Speaker 1: that again. I don't want to see that again. I
Speaker 1: don't want to see that again. You got guys like
Speaker 1: Manny pack out that I've been, you know, trying to
Speaker 1: find the cash cat right now, he the cash caw.
Speaker 1: I definitely want Garcia Bud Crawford been talking. Is you
Speaker 1: got some formidable opponents that have you real quick. I
Speaker 1: wanted you to touch something because I don't think people
Speaker 1: understand that I used to play football, so I used
Speaker 1: to try to do the quick but the cutting weight
Speaker 1: and how hard that is mentally physically. And then like
Speaker 1: you said, you sound like you walk around about normally,
Speaker 1: that you're normal walking right away, So to come down
Speaker 1: into the one forties. Like as athletes, we know how
Speaker 1: fun like for like a basketball for that ship is impossible,
Speaker 1: But tell me what that's that process is like, and
Speaker 1: then how hard it is to kind of, like you said,
Speaker 1: still have your full energy and be able to take
Speaker 1: a punch and do all that ship when you're down
Speaker 1: like you said in nine weeks down almost forty hands,
Speaker 1: that's insane. You basically have to cut everything, like your
Speaker 1: water in, take your food in. Take you're running twice
Speaker 1: today like I would running twice a day in the
Speaker 1: signa suit on my pants on my legs, a sona
Speaker 1: suite on top, you know, working out in the sign
Speaker 1: of suit. You know I'm not getting I'm not drinking
Speaker 1: that much water. I'm probably drinking and probably I would
Speaker 1: say probably like twenty six ounces a day really if that,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm eating probably twice a day. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm doing all that just to drop dropped his weight
Speaker 1: so I can you know, so I can win. But
Speaker 1: it takes a lot of a lot of hard work.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm always in shape. I'm always in shape,
Speaker 1: so you know, I don't think they played a big
Speaker 1: difference in the fight because I'm always in shape. But
Speaker 1: I think, you know, if I would have been more disciplined,
Speaker 1: it would cut it a lot earlier. It would have
Speaker 1: been a way easier fighting what it was. Hey, I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember video. I remember seeing this video. I know
Speaker 1: you remember you in the hood at something, big dude
Speaker 1: in the hood. I want to just try you thinking
Speaker 1: so I'm sweet. I want to go blow for blow
Speaker 1: to the body. And I say this this how I
Speaker 1: knew you know we are from texting, so I could.
Speaker 1: I can see some served neighborhoods and I know what
Speaker 1: it looked like in Texas. I said, this hot new
Speaker 1: earl was the real with big boy called him out.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go by blow for blow right there,
Speaker 1: somebody pulled out the camera. You folded him up and
Speaker 1: he had you bout a hundred pounds. Now that my
Speaker 1: problem to d Ray, But that's what we do. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta he got the jail. You got a jail too,
Speaker 1: So he thought he was tough. I guess. I guess
Speaker 1: he got the kid dudes out of the jail and things.
Speaker 1: So he got out thinking, you know, thinking it was sweet.
Speaker 1: So we called it. So we gotten the gloves went
Speaker 1: by to the bodies. We do, We're getting the gloves
Speaker 1: and go by to the body and we'll blow full blow.
Speaker 1: We didn't get another fact, that's how we didn't getting gloves.
Speaker 1: Were just fished. It was just that's all about to say, y'all.
Speaker 1: Wasn't even any gloves right there, A little was just fish.
Speaker 1: That's what we do was just buy to the body. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how would up how would a Floyd fight play out today?
Speaker 1: But both you and your primes, if if Floyd wasn't
Speaker 1: this prime, you and your prime talk to us about
Speaker 1: what that kind of what kind of dream matchup that
Speaker 1: would be a focus in my prime. I think I'll
Speaker 1: be Floyd. Yeah, ain't running. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: E're gonna walk him down, earl, earl, won't you ear
Speaker 1: I want to be shoulder to the shoulder with you
Speaker 1: the whole fight. Yeah, I was talking about talk to
Speaker 1: us about that. Though you can't just tell us you
Speaker 1: go to to talk to us. What would be the
Speaker 1: game playing, the mental strategy of that. Uh well, Floyd.
Speaker 1: Floyd really is very mentally to very mentally tough. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I would cut them off. I'll use my
Speaker 1: jab with a lot of people like even though I
Speaker 1: still a whole your fight. I still she used the
Speaker 1: jab a lot more. HOWLD use my job throw combinations.
Speaker 1: I worked the body and then work the head because
Speaker 1: a lot of people they go to the head and
Speaker 1: then work the body, but they go for the head
Speaker 1: and then you can't hit him in the head. And
Speaker 1: then you know you can't hit him in the head.
Speaker 1: So I work the body and work the head, and
Speaker 1: then you just trying to break them down physically, because
Speaker 1: I know it's not breaking down intally. He just did
Speaker 1: one of those top fighters, just like Sean Porter. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna break him down into that. You can break
Speaker 1: it down physically, but mentally he's always gonna be there,
Speaker 1: So I would just try to, you know, break him
Speaker 1: down physically. M There's been a back and forth a
Speaker 1: lot with you and Bud Crawford, obviously trying to figure
Speaker 1: out who the top you know best Walter Way it
Speaker 1: is obviously you got the belts, but what does that
Speaker 1: like back and forth? He just said something recently, I
Speaker 1: want to say, just a few days ago, talk about
Speaker 1: you said it's gonna suck you up with some ship
Speaker 1: like that. What is it? What has that been like?
Speaker 1: Back and forth, because all it could really be right
Speaker 1: now is speculation and talk. You're right now, just back
Speaker 1: and forth talk. Me and me and Terence Proffer. We
Speaker 1: actually faced ting to each other's before, and that's why,
Speaker 1: you know, that's why I got some would kind of
Speaker 1: respect for Terence Proffer because we faced on each other.
Speaker 1: We talked about it, you know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: talked about it. We came to meet your understanding that
Speaker 1: the fight is gonna happen. You know, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of politics involved, and you know, the money and I
Speaker 1: might not be all the way right right now, but
Speaker 1: it will be right and we're going to fight. But
Speaker 1: you know, guys like like him, I kind of respect
Speaker 1: guys like Keith Thurman. You know, I really don't have
Speaker 1: that much respectful you know, Danna Garda see I respect
Speaker 1: when I see him. You know, he comes off as
Speaker 1: a stand up guy now pack Yeah, he's a stand up,
Speaker 1: stand up guy all the way around. You know, it's
Speaker 1: just some guys that I just can't can't miss with.
Speaker 1: But you know, Terance profit here, real dude in my book.
Speaker 1: But you gotta make sure that fights on showtime because
Speaker 1: me and Jack will be front road suited and and
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about the Texas ties with the Charlos
Speaker 1: Charler brothers. A lot of people don't know how y'all connected,
Speaker 1: and how y'all became so close. And I know y'a
Speaker 1: can sell of y'all got got the same trainer, But
Speaker 1: talk to us about that. Me and Charlos asked, she
Speaker 1: got cool and the amateurs It was probably about fifteen.
Speaker 1: We got cool. And then actually one of the Charlot's
Speaker 1: beat me. I can't remember which one. I think it
Speaker 1: was Jamal. I don't know what I'm saying that you
Speaker 1: know that come up all the time beating the amates.
Speaker 1: I was like sixteen. He beat me the amates out
Speaker 1: of sixteen. Then we just got real tight. And then
Speaker 1: Jamal had turned pro. Jamale had turned pro, and Jamal
Speaker 1: stayed around and me and Jamal got real tight. He
Speaker 1: got super tight. And then after Jamal leftist coach. Jamal
Speaker 1: asked me, he was like, man, I need a coach
Speaker 1: man you think I can work with with Darry James,
Speaker 1: and I respect I would spect Jamal because he can't
Speaker 1: of met first you kind of me was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you got a great coach. You know, can I work
Speaker 1: with him? He can't meet for him in Canada there,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, show no problem. So he
Speaker 1: started working out with there and then start coming down
Speaker 1: here and then we just got even tighter. It was
Speaker 1: like my brothers from Houston right there. Mm hmm. That's
Speaker 1: what's up basketball being obviously a team sport. Boxing is
Speaker 1: you you wudn't that ring by yourself. It's a little
Speaker 1: harder sometimes to break through as kind of an individual
Speaker 1: household name. When do you feel like you became a
Speaker 1: household name? Uh to boxing? Oh my thing. I became
Speaker 1: a household name where I really start seeing it when
Speaker 1: I thought at the when I thought out the ATNC Center,
Speaker 1: when I fought the A tenC Stadium, and uh, you
Speaker 1: know it was I was like, you know, I made
Speaker 1: a cat. First, I was nervous. I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 1: out there. I was like, man, I want me to
Speaker 1: see this out like you think like y'all trying to
Speaker 1: burist me. Y't to have like nobody stands y'are trying
Speaker 1: to burish me. Thinking I said this out it like
Speaker 1: you said it out. And then when it happened, I
Speaker 1: was like, man, I can't wait do it again. But
Speaker 1: it was just a humble of humble experiences seeing you know,
Speaker 1: people from my hometown and people that I grew up
Speaker 1: with and just see him, familiar faces in the crowd
Speaker 1: and everybody coming out to watch me fight. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just a great experience and humble of experience. Like, man,
Speaker 1: all the people came out to see me win. You know,
Speaker 1: even if they seemed to see me lose. You know,
Speaker 1: it still came out. You know. That's why a little
Speaker 1: about it the most mm hmmm. So we know you
Speaker 1: got a long, long boxing career head of you got
Speaker 1: a lot to do. But what are some things that
Speaker 1: that you're looking at that you're getting into now that's
Speaker 1: that you can start that you're setting up for after
Speaker 1: after boxing? Like, what are you gonna do? I know
Speaker 1: you commentated a couple of fights, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But what what's some things that you interested in doing
Speaker 1: after boxing? Hm? I actually I got a promotional company
Speaker 1: or I got a few fighters on there. Bertie Brooks,
Speaker 1: you know man Rashidi. You know a couple of guys,
Speaker 1: so so that's doing this thing. No guys they are
Speaker 1: about five and well he's six and al right, he
Speaker 1: six he's sixing al right now, so you're doing the
Speaker 1: thing sixing over five knockouts. So he's doing this thing,
Speaker 1: and you know, basically, just save my money, man, save
Speaker 1: with my money, you know, make sure I don't waste
Speaker 1: it buying crazy things, buying royal races and type of
Speaker 1: oft the wall things. So that's the main thing for
Speaker 1: me to make sure I save my money is just
Speaker 1: you know, stay for because he winning keeth stacking the bread.
Speaker 1: They got some of they got some of their kids
Speaker 1: down and put out the Texas And when we started
Speaker 1: looking up for boxing, they got some little roughnecks down
Speaker 1: there that needy shot the strong too. Obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: any of the major three major sports football, baseball, basketball,
Speaker 1: we all kind of resort back to fighting boxing UFC.
Speaker 1: We're all huge fans of that because I mean that's
Speaker 1: that one on one. To me, boxing is like the
Speaker 1: most mainly in UFC because like the most manly ship
Speaker 1: you could do. You know, I mean, like you could
Speaker 1: be tough on the basketball court the football courts, but
Speaker 1: their motherfucker's in the rings is really tough. Um. You
Speaker 1: you have a lot of fails. Obviously, Jack and I
Speaker 1: being one. But you built a special relationship with Damian Lillard,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know you talked to us about that
Speaker 1: relationship because you even got him boxing now as one
Speaker 1: of his training methods. And I boxed from my Crest
Speaker 1: steel box, and that shipped to me is one of
Speaker 1: toughest workous I've ever done. Yeah, I mean, b always
Speaker 1: been my first love, even you know, since I was
Speaker 1: a kid. I mean, people played basketball and football. Walking
Speaker 1: home for school, he was gonna get into a fight
Speaker 1: with somebody, kid, fight with somebody like And I had
Speaker 1: an older sister too, so you know, dude, say something
Speaker 1: crazy to my to my older sister. You know you
Speaker 1: got to fight. You know, my sister he's a fight
Speaker 1: all the time. I remember walking home for school. My
Speaker 1: sisters fight every day. So I mean, you know it's
Speaker 1: sad to say. You know, that was just you know
Speaker 1: something that you know, we always did, you know, even
Speaker 1: as little kids. I mean it was in I was
Speaker 1: in like second third grade walking home to school, watching
Speaker 1: kids fight and getting the fist fights and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: It was just it was just the culture. But you know,
Speaker 1: me and Damonlivery, we just gotta you know, respect for
Speaker 1: each other. You know, I respect this game. You know,
Speaker 1: he wanted the best best in the in the league
Speaker 1: right now, and he put it in a lot of
Speaker 1: work and um, you know now he's taking the boxing
Speaker 1: and doing this thing too. But you know it's just
Speaker 1: a mutual space. We ran into each other and my
Speaker 1: coach actually went to it. I missed you because I
Speaker 1: was in l A or New York for My coach
Speaker 1: actually went to the game where they played the Davis Mavericks,
Speaker 1: and um, he did his thing. I think he had
Speaker 1: like for the pour plus points. What's your what's your
Speaker 1: whole game? Looks like? Who game? I? Who game? Who game?
Speaker 1: You got? You gotta who you gotta who you gotta go?
Speaker 1: You gotta played football? You got did you play? Did
Speaker 1: you play those sports growing up? When did When did
Speaker 1: boxing become your number one sport? I played football growing up,
Speaker 1: but I started boxing at fifteen because I started getting
Speaker 1: in trouble and my dad was my dad. I guess
Speaker 1: he got worried because I was getting a lot of trouble.
Speaker 1: He feels like I was hanging around, you know, the
Speaker 1: wrong group of guys. And he used to say, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't mind it. You know it's basically, you know
Speaker 1: the devil. You know, I'm not doing nothing summertime. He
Speaker 1: got me there at summertime toil. You got me in summertimes.
Speaker 1: I was just hanging around doing nothing, to hang on
Speaker 1: my friends, you know, walking the streets. He was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna get him a boxing. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I thought of it or what made him
Speaker 1: think of it, but he thought about boxing. And you
Speaker 1: know it's been it's been a history ever since. That's
Speaker 1: what's up. We missed a question I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you earlier. As a basketball player, you know, I was
Speaker 1: someone that really had no major injuries. I tore my
Speaker 1: meniscus into me. Coming back, I felt physically fine, but
Speaker 1: mentally I was still tripping because I didn't know how
Speaker 1: my knee was going to react when I just wasn't prepared,
Speaker 1: like making it prepared, you know, basketball's reaction. So I'm
Speaker 1: wondering if you have that same kind of thought process
Speaker 1: the first time you go back into sparring, you know,
Speaker 1: with with with the situation, through the accident, with your
Speaker 1: face and how your teeth and you got some new teeth.
Speaker 1: He got some nice shiny teeth like me and Jack now,
Speaker 1: are there any like worries of like what's going Like,
Speaker 1: what's gonna happened that first time I take, you know,
Speaker 1: a left hook to the side of my face that's
Speaker 1: funked up? Oh no, man, I'm really okay. I mean
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm different. I'm just I'm ready to fight.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for a fight day since man, since
Speaker 1: probably was since January. I've been waiting for a fight day.
Speaker 1: You know, I was gonna fight in August, you know,
Speaker 1: so push it back to Dctorer November, which you know,
Speaker 1: which my parents are happy because they're like, man, you
Speaker 1: don't need to jump right back in there. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm ready, like the doctor, the doctor said, the doctor
Speaker 1: gave me a green light. I was like, I'm ready
Speaker 1: to go, you know. So, I mean, it's just feel
Speaker 1: like I'm it's a blessing that I'm here. It's a
Speaker 1: blessing that I wasn't, you know, severely injured. You know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I didn't break anything either, You're ready to fight,
Speaker 1: and and the doctor couldn't believe it to the doctor
Speaker 1: was like, man, I can't believe he didn't break anything,
Speaker 1: Like it's a blessing like they end up what was
Speaker 1: going on for somebody to get ejected from a ferrari
Speaker 1: and to land on on pure concrete as before I
Speaker 1: was flipping too, so I land and for the four
Speaker 1: not to hit me. They're not laying on per con creating.
Speaker 1: You know, I break everything in my mouth and you know,
Speaker 1: and not you know, have any facial fractures, and now
Speaker 1: that's scarred up. And for me to still be walking,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like I'm here for a reason,
Speaker 1: Ain't no question about that. Say all right, if you could,
Speaker 1: if you had one NB player, NBA player that could
Speaker 1: walk you into the ring before your fight, who would
Speaker 1: it be? Oh one, I say, Lebron James M hmm,
Speaker 1: Yeah Jack, he's your favorite. He's your favorite one to watch,
Speaker 1: um right now? Yeah, he's my favorite one to watch
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah. I just respect. I just respect to him,
Speaker 1: not even I don't feel you what to do outside
Speaker 1: outside of the NBA. That's why I respect him a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, you didn't have nothing to do with basketball.
Speaker 1: I just you know, family man. Yeah, put his homeboys
Speaker 1: in place, Yeah, put it home in place to win
Speaker 1: and things like that, like you can't do not speed,
Speaker 1: No scandals with him, No nothing, man, I mean there's
Speaker 1: coming from somebody like him us to how the temptation
Speaker 1: coming his way? It's tough. What I couldn't do it?
Speaker 1: What is it? What is it like to you though?
Speaker 1: When you when you when you walking, I know it's best.
Speaker 1: It's different because you're in constant you know, focus during
Speaker 1: the fight. But I know, what is it like when
Speaker 1: you see stars come out to watch you? Superstars from
Speaker 1: other sports come out to your fight and watch and
Speaker 1: you see them sitting ringside? How does that make you feel?
Speaker 1: Pump you up? Pump you up, definitely get your blood flowing.
Speaker 1: Like I think my last flight was like Maddie Johnson,
Speaker 1: you know, Larry Bird out there and things like that
Speaker 1: pumped me over. Just man, you're ready to fight and
Speaker 1: you really ready to show out too. He's like, man,
Speaker 1: I gotta show out in front of them. I gotta
Speaker 1: show out. I didn't say no was there and things
Speaker 1: like that that, Man I gotta show out sat content
Speaker 1: next like so it just it really just makes you
Speaker 1: want to show out. Has has there been one celebrity
Speaker 1: that stood out? You're like, damn, he's here. In particular,
Speaker 1: she's here in particular, Is there one that's that comes
Speaker 1: to your mind when you've seen them in the crowd.
Speaker 1: Uh No, because I don't. I don't too much looking
Speaker 1: to ground. Okay, So I was wondering because said, there's
Speaker 1: more time for basketball. We have time amounts and ship
Speaker 1: that we could sit and talk and look who's over here.
Speaker 1: But in Boston it's a whole another mindset. Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 1: You you're not trying to. You really locked in, like
Speaker 1: you got time and like it's like this dude trying
Speaker 1: to kill me. I'm trying to kill him. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to in nothing like the other person. I can
Speaker 1: hear I can hear my mother because no matter what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can hear us screaming that distinct boys like I
Speaker 1: always hear screaming. Don't matter first two to around. I
Speaker 1: can hear the voice, always would know for the most part.
Speaker 1: You know, you just locked in on your opponent. Mm hmmm,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Jack. Top five boxes of all time, Top
Speaker 1: five all time? You're top five? Do you have to do? Order?
Speaker 1: Just five however you want. Don't have to be one
Speaker 1: through five, Just five boxes. Pill Wakawe sug Jerald mccomor,
Speaker 1: g man Man, Muhammad Ali. Of course, Terry Nors, Terry Norse.
Speaker 1: People don't know about Terry Norris from Texas. Yeah, sir,
Speaker 1: and Lennis Louis Nicks Lois, we got that Jamaican connections.
Speaker 1: So that's that. That job that to it was get that.
Speaker 1: Say for the three three three fight deal. Money is
Speaker 1: everything you can imagine. The money is perfect. Who would
Speaker 1: be your three opponents three fight deal? The money was perfect?
Speaker 1: I do pack Yeah, Tarans Crawford and who else? Dan got?
Speaker 1: See you? No Floyd? Oh well he was tired right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly exactly that money training. Okay, so man down is
Speaker 1: the model? Right? Oh yeah, best knockout so far to
Speaker 1: you has knocked out so far? Bund Do. It was
Speaker 1: in New York, Linar bund Do. I knocked it out
Speaker 1: of my head. Yeah. When I hit him, I can't,
Speaker 1: I can't walking. I had walked out with it. That's
Speaker 1: why it looked pretty good. His body went to as
Speaker 1: I walked out. So the pretty one ye favorite boxing movie.
Speaker 1: I don't have a favorite boxing movie because they also
Speaker 1: faith to me. I'm like, I was never like, I
Speaker 1: don't remember. I hate rock I hate I hate that
Speaker 1: ship because I mean they were trying to do it.
Speaker 1: Took him like threefold months to getting this to meet
Speaker 1: this monster and be in the tiptop shape on like man,
Speaker 1: Rocky just it wasn't real to me, So I didn't
Speaker 1: like it. See that's love hearing that perspective though, because
Speaker 1: like I said, we feel the same way about like
Speaker 1: when they try to do bath like motherfucker's hard to
Speaker 1: emulate basketball players. That's why basketball ship don't work. So
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting to hear you say that because, like
Speaker 1: I said, it's if you're really in that sports, you
Speaker 1: know that's not how ship really works. But sometimes the
Speaker 1: movies like Chasing Chickens and stuff. Man, I was my
Speaker 1: coach from the rain. Somebody got said, I'll be back
Speaker 1: tomorrow tasting the chicken. Man, we all we all on quarantine.
Speaker 1: What you binge watching when you're not training? Narcos um
Speaker 1: what else? Of course? Um Man, I didn't rewatch the
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones because I've been so wholly Game of
Speaker 1: Thrones and ship. Man, it took me. I've watched all
Speaker 1: that ship last year and probably like a month because
Speaker 1: I was never into that kind of my my mind
Speaker 1: never took me there something to just like give this
Speaker 1: ship to try. That ship was unbelievable. That's dope, especially ending. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was dope. Sped the Mother They're they're supposed to
Speaker 1: have Mother of the Dragons. They're supposed to have some
Speaker 1: other ship coming. I think, so I'm not mistaken. I
Speaker 1: thought she died though, but I think it's supposed to
Speaker 1: be a prequel. Okay, yeah, I can see the actually
Speaker 1: that I mean, ain't so much so much money out
Speaker 1: for I know you weren't a tough weight loss, uh
Speaker 1: you know, dropping weight, trying to share weight right now?
Speaker 1: Is anything you like to snack on? Though? During these
Speaker 1: lockdown times? Right now, I'm pretty much like in like
Speaker 1: I don't really know snacking on nothing. Like I'm like then,
Speaker 1: like if I shave my frieze right now, there's nothing
Speaker 1: in her book but waters, I'm like, and I already
Speaker 1: got my my organic food everything. Like I basically eating
Speaker 1: healthy right now because I'm I'm trying to trying to
Speaker 1: go back to what I used to go go to
Speaker 1: be like one eight, one eighty five. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: stay at one sixty so when the fight come, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not hard because he used to be hard on me.
Speaker 1: I'll be wearing like one eight and then next even know,
Speaker 1: I got a press conference. I go to press conference,
Speaker 1: and I'm spending my whole day in the press conference.
Speaker 1: And I gained like six pounds. Its being in press conference,
Speaker 1: just because you know, you're losing water your body like
Speaker 1: a sponge. And when you're losing water, when you and
Speaker 1: then soon you drink some water, you're getting a weight
Speaker 1: just like that instantly. So so now I'm trying to
Speaker 1: do it the right way and just how I did
Speaker 1: it back when I was, you know, broken, just hungry,
Speaker 1: and I used to wait just one and then I
Speaker 1: got down on one fourth. The saving real smooth. Tell
Speaker 1: tell people what it's like like when you say you're
Speaker 1: locked in. Tell me what you're what you're eating, ritual is,
Speaker 1: and what kind of food you are eating well right now,
Speaker 1: like anty the morning time being a whites eat avocados, um,
Speaker 1: spinach um. For lunch, I'm eating spinach or I might
Speaker 1: eat a salad. I might eat a salad with some
Speaker 1: eggs and egg Whites in theer and ne York because
Speaker 1: of York is mainly just fat um for dinner. I
Speaker 1: mean chicken brists, um, little brown rice, um, nothing, Friday everything,
Speaker 1: steam and stuff like that. So basically I'm cutting out
Speaker 1: a lot of jump food. I'm a big jump food
Speaker 1: even when I've been trying to camp like, I eat
Speaker 1: a lot of need a lot of candy. Yeah. How
Speaker 1: hard is that though? Because that disciplined, that that's that's everything,
Speaker 1: Because I said, I used to cheat like that too
Speaker 1: when I play, because i know I'm gonna bust my
Speaker 1: ass working to be fine for the season. Now I'm
Speaker 1: done and I'll be eating that ship like, oh, this
Speaker 1: ship ain't gonna come off that easy. You know. How
Speaker 1: tough is that? Mental discipline? Not just to have to
Speaker 1: always eat the right ship. Um, the first I say,
Speaker 1: the first three weeks, first three weeks till a month
Speaker 1: is tough, Like it's toughest head. Once you get through
Speaker 1: that first month, then you're good. But their first month
Speaker 1: is tough. He keep me very back or especially on
Speaker 1: the weekends Friday and Saturday Sunday. On the weekends, you
Speaker 1: know your friends might come over, you know somebody doing somewhere.
Speaker 1: You're go on your mother house and your mother got
Speaker 1: chips and got cakes and out and got solders. You know,
Speaker 1: you're talking to her, you're talking to her, you're eating
Speaker 1: at the same time, and then once of your home,
Speaker 1: step on the scale like damn, I gotta go running,
Speaker 1: and then you go running again and you gotta work
Speaker 1: it out there and the next week. So you know,
Speaker 1: basically me, I just stay home, man, I just stay
Speaker 1: home because I know I'm not that missy until walking
Speaker 1: to go over somebody house and I'm you know, and
Speaker 1: I don't look at the cabin. I don't look at
Speaker 1: the fridge or they're cooking something, and I say, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna eat nothing. You know, with me, you know,
Speaker 1: food is my guilty pleasure. So you know, when it
Speaker 1: comes to food, I'm gonna eat. That's why I get
Speaker 1: so high off. And wait, so you know, right now
Speaker 1: just cutting everything. And I'm kind of glad now because
Speaker 1: now I'm not going on on mother house. You know,
Speaker 1: she kind of she locked in. She's quarantine up. You know,
Speaker 1: my dad quarantine up. So I don't go over there
Speaker 1: house at out because you know, I'm not hanging around anybody.
Speaker 1: But you know, I've still been around my kids and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and my kids with their mother, so
Speaker 1: I don't want, you know, I'll be the reason why
Speaker 1: my mother and my father kissing anything. So you know
Speaker 1: I haven't seen them probably like him off. That's tough
Speaker 1: you you are being from Texas. I know you got
Speaker 1: a great with ship with Yellow Busy and you got
Speaker 1: you got a big background and you're deep in the
Speaker 1: Texas wrap. But what are what are the artists you
Speaker 1: listen to right now? What you got ona repeat? Um?
Speaker 1: The new little baby, the new little baby. Yeah, go
Speaker 1: little baby coming to his own especially, it ain't more right.
Speaker 1: He was, like, you can actually hear what he's saying, right,
Speaker 1: he got a story, He got a story to tell. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he definitely got a story to tell, like you can
Speaker 1: tell like dude, dude comes you know, from the streets.
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm rocking a little baby heavy. What's your
Speaker 1: definition of all the smoke? Because you dropped that line
Speaker 1: constantly in your press conferences, so I mean, obviously that's
Speaker 1: the name of our show. What is your definition of
Speaker 1: all the smoke? My definition for all the smoke is,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to all the smoke anybody. That's anybody,
Speaker 1: if your boxer, whoever, whoever, want to fight. And that's
Speaker 1: how I came up. I was coming up. I was
Speaker 1: like thirteen for us. You know, car did not keep
Speaker 1: throwing and shine for the all these Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: now I got two bills, not a guy, and I'm
Speaker 1: the you know, I'm the money guy right now beside Yeah,
Speaker 1: not this guy want to fight me? You know, like
Speaker 1: I tell him, I tell I want to fight you too.
Speaker 1: I want to fight Keith Throwing. But if if it's
Speaker 1: not making sense right now, like Keith Throwing want to
Speaker 1: fight me now you just said that he'll fight me
Speaker 1: and Terence Crawford. But me, I'm not interested fighting and
Speaker 1: Keith Throwing because he didn't want to fight me when
Speaker 1: I was coming up, like for three or four years,
Speaker 1: he was like, who is this guy? I want to fight?
Speaker 1: He hadn't done nothing. He did this, hedn't did that.
Speaker 1: So once you get in the position to fight me,
Speaker 1: then I'll fight you before right now, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at Packing, I'm looking at Terrence Crawford, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at you know the topic. You know, I want to
Speaker 1: smoke for all the top guys period. That's what's up.
Speaker 1: There's a chance boxing can come back, and and this
Speaker 1: was something that the NBA possibly could be faces. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on possibly fighting in an empty arena?
Speaker 1: For me, it don't matter. I mean a lot of
Speaker 1: my trip you're talking about. Hey man, we're just to
Speaker 1: fight for freeze. So long as that check the same,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna get, We're gonna get. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be the same down. It's gonna be the same beat down.
Speaker 1: Whether there's people in the stands or not, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be the same beat down. So long as the check right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get in there. We're gonna fight. Talk to him, Wait,
Speaker 1: what's your what's your take? What's your take on boxes?
Speaker 1: And and and how's your Twitter game? And you're talking
Speaker 1: you're talking ship game on social media, Like, what's your
Speaker 1: take on that? Oh? I don't really, I don't talk.
Speaker 1: I don't talk on Twitter to people un list you know,
Speaker 1: unless it's a reason to like Tance Crawford. We might
Speaker 1: go back and forth. But I'm not talking talking crap
Speaker 1: to somebody I don't know, you know, don't respect you
Speaker 1: know something, random guy like that. They gotta be gotta
Speaker 1: be a reason for me to talk crack to like
Speaker 1: Tance Crawford. Got to be beneficial. You gotta be in fishing.
Speaker 1: We got something going you building, I fight up. We're
Speaker 1: gonna fight each other soon, we're gonna make We're gonna
Speaker 1: make money off this ship. So we we're gonna make
Speaker 1: money out there. Like I'm not arguing with Joe Blow
Speaker 1: about nothing. And he not in my training camp. He's
Speaker 1: not another person training to camp. Nobody knows who he is.
Speaker 1: And he want to talk craft because I got I
Speaker 1: got a lot of heckless, a lot of coming for
Speaker 1: you coming from the hall. I'm trying to talk about
Speaker 1: my car accident. I clicked out the car everything, you know,
Speaker 1: just you know, I decided just to the normal because
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna see him in person, right, you know,
Speaker 1: you know somewhere else. In closing, what do you think
Speaker 1: you've learned the most from your car accident? Um, don't
Speaker 1: take anything for granted. Around that time, I was taking
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff for granted. I think I was,
Speaker 1: you know, I was heading down that way anyway. I
Speaker 1: was heading down that path, you know, to destruction anyway,
Speaker 1: you know, and I was taking lots for granted, and
Speaker 1: you know it was showing, you know, even if in
Speaker 1: the shan shann quarter fight. You know, it showed I was,
Speaker 1: you know, slacking a lot of stuff, even the Mike
Speaker 1: Garcia fight, even though I beat him mysore rounds and
Speaker 1: I wanted every round. You know, it's the power wasn't
Speaker 1: Yeah I could have finish, Yeah, I should have finished some,
Speaker 1: but the power wasn't there because I was trying so
Speaker 1: hard to make weight, Like even that Mike Garcia fight.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, the dad away and I was sitting
Speaker 1: in a sauna for hour and I didn't swit, and
Speaker 1: I had a sauna suit on and I had a
Speaker 1: hoodie on. Everything. I didn't swit to like an hour
Speaker 1: being in there, and that was just the make weight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was just the right weight for the hour drain.
Speaker 1: And then I could only go up ten pounds so
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I had to watch for e and and
Speaker 1: what I drunk. So you know, I was already hit
Speaker 1: it to the shot. And I think, you know, that
Speaker 1: car accident was out over there for me. Like I'm like, like,
Speaker 1: you know you're tripping right now, get back on your stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, you say you do it for your family.
Speaker 1: You said you want to be great, You say you
Speaker 1: want to be a llegen, you know, get back on
Speaker 1: your a game. So you know, it was just you know,
Speaker 1: I think it was. It was a buss and I
Speaker 1: got into that accident, and you know, put a lot
Speaker 1: of things in perspective that I didn't put it in
Speaker 1: perspective at first because I was just so on the high,
Speaker 1: you know, I was, I was, I was floating, I
Speaker 1: was sloating. So to say so, you know, it would
Speaker 1: put me down, knock me down, knock me down. That's
Speaker 1: good though, man, because one the one, the one thing
Speaker 1: I appreciate here. And you say, you know, I've been
Speaker 1: through my own ups and downs in my career, but
Speaker 1: it's where it's where you go from that. You know,
Speaker 1: we we we we we we were throwing in success
Speaker 1: and we're not expecting all the success. But you worked
Speaker 1: your ass. How can you deserve it? But at a
Speaker 1: certain times it's certain things that we have to learn
Speaker 1: on our own. But to get the opportunity to go
Speaker 1: through something like that and to realize, okay, bam, I
Speaker 1: do have a great I do have a great situation.
Speaker 1: I escaped something that most people don't escape. I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta go a different direction from here, and I
Speaker 1: salute you for I salute you from understanding that and
Speaker 1: admitting that, bro, because lot of people they don't mistakes,
Speaker 1: they don't learn from it, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Now I had to look at myself in the mirror. Man.
Speaker 1: A lot of guys, you know, they're getting the accent,
Speaker 1: they do something wrong and they don't look at themselves
Speaker 1: in the mirror. Somebody else can do something, they'll put
Speaker 1: the fat on them and blame on them and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: he did that, he did that. There, critique that person.
Speaker 1: But you know, when it's time for you to look
Speaker 1: in the mirror and critique yourself, A lot of guys
Speaker 1: can't do that. And that's why, Yeah, to do that
Speaker 1: for myself, just critique myself and like, yo, you're tripping, man,
Speaker 1: get back on your a game, because it's I'm the
Speaker 1: hunting right now. It's a lot of guys that behind
Speaker 1: me like how I was, and they're coming up behind
Speaker 1: me and it's asked on my chest. He shan knocked
Speaker 1: me out straight up. Well, I think I speak for
Speaker 1: a lot of us men that we're glad you made
Speaker 1: it through. We're big fans, were excited for the future, Uh,
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do and ship. As soon as the
Speaker 1: fights get back with fans, me and JACKO be in
Speaker 1: the front row fucking with you, man. So thank you
Speaker 1: again for coming on today and taking a little bit
Speaker 1: of time with is. We appreciate you, bro, my boy,
Speaker 1: Thanks appreciate champing me off. Good show, Jack good show.
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