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Speaker 3: What's up? Everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show
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Speaker 2: don't miss all these dope announcements. In today's episode, we'll
Speaker 2: talk about obviously the Warriors, we'll talk about lebron shooting slump,
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Speaker 3: Yeah, excited, man list?
Speaker 4: Oh man, fucking list?
Speaker 1: Tell me about you know what. I'm gonna stay on
Speaker 1: track and we're gonna get into that. But before we
Speaker 1: get into that, I gotta holler that my folks, what's up?
Speaker 3: Dub Nation? I love y'all, We love y'all.
Speaker 1: I know everybody's going to tune in here and be like,
Speaker 1: all right, I need to hear what's going on with
Speaker 1: the four game losing streak and how where's the team
Speaker 1: in mindset? And of course when you're winning, everybody's like,
Speaker 1: oh my God, they're back's twenty twenty two all over again.
Speaker 1: And then when you lose a few, everybody's like, oh,
Speaker 1: they need to make a trade immediately. And it's kind
Speaker 1: of this way how we feeling right now. Obviously we
Speaker 1: feel like we gotta win. You can't just keep dropping games.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, and I spoke about this before,
Speaker 1: it's also one of the reasons that you want to
Speaker 1: get off to a good start, you know.
Speaker 3: So when we got off to a twelve and three
Speaker 3: star I think that's.
Speaker 1: Why you want to log them games, because the reality is,
Speaker 1: you hit these rough patches during the season, and sometimes
Speaker 1: you can want to do everything right, you can feel
Speaker 1: like things are going right and it just don't go
Speaker 1: your way, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why you want to log them games when you came
Speaker 1: early on in the season, to kind of give yourself
Speaker 1: a little cushion.
Speaker 3: So, Harry, are.
Speaker 1: Riding a four game losing street and we're still two
Speaker 1: games out of first, you know, but we're also two
Speaker 1: games out of eleven. I think our mindset is we
Speaker 1: got to get back to what was making us successful.
Speaker 1: We were defending really well and offensively, the ball was moving,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We were cutting, we were
Speaker 1: knocking down shots, but we were knocking down shots because
Speaker 1: we were getting great shots. Yes, I think the quality
Speaker 1: of our looks over the last two weeks have dipped
Speaker 1: dramatically and so in terms here not shooting as well,
Speaker 1: and you know, things get a little thrown off.
Speaker 3: So we are confident. We're confident.
Speaker 2: We know we're still the same team we were a
Speaker 2: week and a half ago when we were sitting at
Speaker 2: twelve and three and nobody's in a panic.
Speaker 3: But when you lose far in a row, shit out
Speaker 3: of shame.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm watching, you know, when things is rolling and
Speaker 2: the magic is happening and the energy is high, you know,
Speaker 2: and then you know, bad shots hit are great shots.
Speaker 2: Right when you get in that lull and you take
Speaker 2: bad shots, you know what I mean, Then bad shots
Speaker 2: starts to mess with your pace, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm really saying. In these last four games,
Speaker 2: it's like, man, it's just the energy of the magic
Speaker 2: kind of caught up to you know, being in like oh,
Speaker 2: like I can just shoot this shot, and now your
Speaker 2: pace is off. So getting back to like a solid pace.
Speaker 2: And then I also, I have to say this, man.
Speaker 2: You know it's early. You know, we talk about, you know,
Speaker 2: preparation month to month, winning the month.
Speaker 3: The month of.
Speaker 2: November is over, December is a new month. But I
Speaker 2: feel like y'all banged up a little bit, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. And I've been watching you specifically, Dog,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad we got the show because I wanted
Speaker 2: to wun Like, I feel like I'm looking at you
Speaker 2: and I'm like Dre and Vett we can't. We gotta,
Speaker 2: we gotta manage Dre for long term future. I was
Speaker 2: just saying something, I want to know how you feeling
Speaker 2: because I know you're gonna be questionable for tonight. And
Speaker 2: then you know, automatically as your og, big bro, man time,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Take your time, and I
Speaker 2: want to know. We want to know how you feeling
Speaker 2: for real.
Speaker 1: So interestingly enough, I've played every game this year, which
Speaker 1: has kind of been a goal of mine. And the
Speaker 1: goal ain't to play like eighty two. The goal for
Speaker 1: me is when I'm healthy, I'm on the court. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If that's eighty two games, then
Speaker 1: the goal becomes eighty two you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I've been around this long enough to know that
Speaker 1: throwing out these frivolous goals and I'm gonna play for
Speaker 1: eighty two games, like if it happens, great, But when
Speaker 1: you start to throw out goes. Being a guy who's
Speaker 1: a part of a team that won seventy three games,
Speaker 1: I remember chasing at seventy three, and I remember I
Speaker 1: played concuss at seventy three and I ain't tell nobody,
Speaker 1: but I had got whacked by Joe Ingles. We was
Speaker 1: playing in Utah that was coming towards the end, and man,
Speaker 1: I drove on dizzy as hell, like for days. At
Speaker 1: that time, I was living in Berkeley Hill, so it's
Speaker 1: the wild man, I'm driving up there and like for days,
Speaker 1: I'm just a little busy. But we we are little foggy, right,
Speaker 1: but we're we're really close now, We're really close now
Speaker 1: to closing in on that seventy three. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can't miss a game or two. I can't go
Speaker 1: into the customer. So I ain't tell nobody, but I
Speaker 1: was fucked up. I was concussed, And being someone who's
Speaker 1: been a part of that, I know the toll that
Speaker 1: it took.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I know.
Speaker 1: Everything that you're uphill strength, you know, fighting up hill
Speaker 1: against and so to make a goal like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to play eighty two games. Sometimes you just rolling
Speaker 1: out there on the stretch in a wheelchair. And no
Speaker 1: disrespect to people with disabilities, I'm just using the term
Speaker 1: you're rolling out there peace together. I would say, I
Speaker 1: would say you're rolling out there piece together. And just
Speaker 1: to say I'm playing eighty two, but you probably really
Speaker 1: shouldn't be on that floor, you know.
Speaker 3: And so my thing coming into this season like if
Speaker 3: I'm healthy.
Speaker 1: I'm on the court, and that's been my monset, and
Speaker 1: I played in every game. Over the last few games,
Speaker 1: I've been a bit beat up, but still feeling healthy
Speaker 1: enough to get out there on the floor and try
Speaker 1: to help my team. And over the last few days,
Speaker 1: a couple of days since I started to get this
Speaker 1: calf tightness in my left calf. And the last time
Speaker 1: I got left calf tightness.
Speaker 4: You was out three months the last time that happened.
Speaker 2: That's why that's yeah, that's my concern, right because it's
Speaker 2: you know, hey, you're playing Hall of the Defense you're playing.
Speaker 2: You're playing great this year, and you know it's you
Speaker 2: older you extending yourself.
Speaker 3: You Garden Weinb's you Garden was like.
Speaker 2: That, and so you know, like load management makes sense
Speaker 2: when it makes sense. You dig what I'm saying, and
Speaker 2: like that, Calf, I don't want you going through that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it's like that's why
Speaker 2: you know, I think we all out here in dub Nation.
Speaker 2: I really just you know, want to see you healthy, bro,
Speaker 2: and see you like the warrior that you are, the
Speaker 2: dog that you are, the intellect you know, you just
Speaker 2: you know so much and you can you can weave
Speaker 2: through this calendar, in this schedule and be like Okay, this, this,
Speaker 2: this and that, but it's important for the Doves to
Speaker 2: have that healthy Dramond green because that's that's twelve and three,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Twelve and three look like yeah, one thousand percent. And
Speaker 3: that's kind of where I'm at right now.
Speaker 1: So with the experience that I have now and this
Speaker 1: from what I went through in twenty twenty two. In
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, leading up to me missing those three months,
Speaker 1: there was games and they're all in a row of
Speaker 1: like yo, my left gloop's really tight, and I'm trying
Speaker 1: to like roll phone, roll it out and doing different things,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, it's just saying, you know, and
Speaker 1: they're loosen up a little bit and then come right back.
Speaker 1: But again, I didn't have the knowledge that I have
Speaker 1: now and the experience that I had, and so in
Speaker 1: my mind, it wasn't an.
Speaker 3: L five S one issue.
Speaker 1: It's just my glue type because I didn't even know
Speaker 1: all those things connected at that time, and so the
Speaker 1: symptoms that I was getting, I'm just like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: a symptom because I've been playing games and I didn't
Speaker 1: know what I.
Speaker 3: Was up against.
Speaker 1: So this time some of the symptoms that I felt,
Speaker 1: I'm able to better navigate and knowing like, all right,
Speaker 1: you felt this, this could mean this. You may need
Speaker 1: to slow down, you know, like it's okay. And so
Speaker 1: I think the idea of it right now is like,
Speaker 1: you know, tonight, you know, it's a it's an nd
Speaker 1: season tournament game, Like I need to be out there
Speaker 1: for this game. But at the same time, I seen
Speaker 1: this movie before. You know what I'm saying, you go
Speaker 1: out there chasing one game. I live the movie, you know,
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 3: I listen, I'm just like im. I'll be one hundred
Speaker 3: percent honest.
Speaker 2: I'm a little afraid, like to go through to go
Speaker 2: through what I went through, uh two years ago and
Speaker 2: missed three months.
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm a little afraid right now. I've been
Speaker 1: saying that I have confidence in our staff. I have
Speaker 1: confidence that I'm getting ahead of it right now because
Speaker 1: I just got all these crazy symptoms and I don't
Speaker 1: need to ignore every symptom, every symptom that I have
Speaker 1: right now currently ignoring those symptoms, I know where they
Speaker 1: lead me.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I don't want them to
Speaker 3: leave me there.
Speaker 1: So if I can catch it right now and miss
Speaker 1: a game or two or three, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: as opposed to missing two or three months, the smart
Speaker 1: thing to do is to catch it right now while
Speaker 1: I'm already getting these symptoms.
Speaker 3: And so that's kind of where I'm at with.
Speaker 2: It, man, And I think for like the viewers, you know,
Speaker 2: my whole career, bro, I came into the league acl
Speaker 2: from college and played the first year, had torn carlage.
Speaker 2: Then the next year was like, oh shit, my back.
Speaker 2: You know what's happening with my L four L five,
Speaker 2: and like what I want people to know just through
Speaker 2: my experiences, like that back ain't nothing to play with.
Speaker 2: You could slip, you can get hit the wrong way right.
Speaker 2: But it's also like I think the scary part of
Speaker 2: injuries is like, oh, this hamstring is not bothering me.
Speaker 2: I can play through it, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it's your achilles, you know what I mean, Or my
Speaker 2: CAF is bothering me, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: your back go out right, and so you know, just
Speaker 2: being able to like I know what you mean when
Speaker 2: it's like it's scary because like that was my whole career,
Speaker 2: Like playing in New York. I came in with a
Speaker 2: back injury, I left with career ending knee surgery, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And it was because you ramp
Speaker 2: you rap, you rap, you rap you rap you rap,
Speaker 2: you ramp up so much right that you're not thinking
Speaker 2: about pacy And then when you.
Speaker 4: Feel good, when you feel good.
Speaker 2: You're not thinking about that injury until something weird, you
Speaker 2: feel some type of weird tweak, and so injuries with
Speaker 2: the psychological, especially as you get older, Like I think
Speaker 2: it's more important to be way more conservative, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, because it's it's the long you know,
Speaker 2: it's the longevity of it. And I don't think the
Speaker 2: fans really understand that. You know, you can have a
Speaker 2: bad elbow. You know, you can have an elbow, uh, tendonitis,
Speaker 2: and then next thing, you know, you got a bad back, right,
Speaker 2: and so injuries compound if you don't, you know, take
Speaker 2: the time to let your body and your mind and
Speaker 2: the trainers help you solve the you know, the problem
Speaker 2: and solutions. So we want to see you back, but
Speaker 2: we also want to make sure, man, that you are
Speaker 2: taking care of and you're making sure that it's a pace,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it's a great season.
Speaker 2: You're still in four right, two games out of first
Speaker 2: the West as wild. And then we also saw Steph
Speaker 2: you know we're talking about we getting into December, right, December.
Speaker 4: In January, February.
Speaker 2: Most pivotabal, most pivotal month, right as far as positioning,
Speaker 2: And then we heard Steph say, okay, we got this
Speaker 2: thirteen man rotation. Do we need to shorten you know,
Speaker 2: we probably need to be more predictable on the night
Speaker 2: to night basis. Those guys can get a little bit
Speaker 2: of rhythm. Is that shortening it to one or two guys?
Speaker 2: Maybe you know, I wanted to get your I mean
Speaker 2: get your take because you know you in the field,
Speaker 2: like explain to these people.
Speaker 4: You start the season, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Thirteen But you know, I think what Steph is saying
Speaker 2: is you're just starting to get you Okay, it's December time,
Speaker 2: Christmas start, and now for y'all, Christmas basketball season is earlier.
Speaker 4: Than it used to be. It used to be Christmas Day.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm finally in shape, a finally in rhythm. National
Speaker 2: TV game is cracking now with the end season tournament,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, in the Emirates Cup, it's like, damn,
Speaker 2: that's a whole month ahead.
Speaker 3: You gotta be ready.
Speaker 4: To rock and roll.
Speaker 1: It's crazy because I think of a guy who when
Speaker 1: I came into the league, who was more of your
Speaker 1: era but was still going when I came into the league,
Speaker 1: was og Andre Miller? Uh give me at that time,
Speaker 1: just say ya, I know I actually had the guard
Speaker 1: point cards and like the whole like that's my matchup
Speaker 1: and Andre Miller used to.
Speaker 3: Be my mash up when I would come in the
Speaker 3: game because used to post up, used to play dunker.
Speaker 1: Drey used to do this thing where he would stand
Speaker 1: out of bounds, under the rim and as a as
Speaker 1: a as a defender. If he's underneath the rim out
Speaker 1: of bounds, I can't just stand in the paint because
Speaker 1: I'm not considered in the defensive three seconds on, and
Speaker 1: so you have to go cleanse. And when you go cleanse,
Speaker 1: he comes laid up.
Speaker 3: And he had all these little tricks to the trade.
Speaker 1: But one of the things that I remember Dre Miller
Speaker 1: used to say is in the off season, I let
Speaker 1: my body naturally recover. I let my body naturally heal,
Speaker 1: and then I let my body naturally get back in
Speaker 1: shape and I my way back into shape. And so
Speaker 1: he didn't do a ton in the offseason and come back.
Speaker 1: As you know, at that time, training camp was three
Speaker 1: to four weeks.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Nowadays, training camps three to
Speaker 3: four days.
Speaker 1: And he would work his way back into shape, and
Speaker 1: guys would work them with their theirselves back into shape. Nowadays,
Speaker 1: you're not allowed if you don't come into season in shape,
Speaker 1: you are so far behind the eight ball.
Speaker 3: Sure that for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: You you're swimming uphill, you're swimming upstream because because now
Speaker 1: guys are in shape, and so you're playing ketchup while
Speaker 1: they're getting in better shape. Then at the speed that
Speaker 1: the game is going, because everybody already came into shape,
Speaker 1: now you're tweaking stuff. So now you're fighting against that
Speaker 1: and all these different things. And so for us, now
Speaker 1: you have to come into shape, into into the season
Speaker 1: and shape which is a which is which is a drastic.
Speaker 3: Change for guys in the NBA.
Speaker 1: And so that's been one of the biggest differences since
Speaker 1: I came into the league when I look back at
Speaker 1: it now, you know, or and just where we are
Speaker 1: now today, it's getting further and further that way, Like
Speaker 1: you just mentioned the n Season Tournament, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like those games are like playoff intensity, you know,
Speaker 1: and if you're not in the shape to bear that,
Speaker 1: it all goes downhill from there and you could be
Speaker 1: playing ketch up on something past the en season tournament
Speaker 1: because you've gotten hurt.
Speaker 2: And so when y'all start the season, that was the
Speaker 2: end of our preseason every year. We knew that Halloween
Speaker 2: was when the season started. You know what I mean, now,
Speaker 2: y'all start in October fifteen twelve, you know, flying across
Speaker 2: the country, and it's like you don't even get a break, right,
Speaker 2: you got to really stay in shape the whole time,
Speaker 2: because to your point, if you come in now, y'all
Speaker 2: place so fast, and so being in shape is one thing.
Speaker 2: Being in basketball shape is another thing. Being in basketball
Speaker 2: shape and being in rhythm is another thing. So if
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta kick all that up by October.
Speaker 2: So by October you got to be in your December,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, warm in October in order
Speaker 2: to start getting ready for players. That's why I see,
Speaker 2: that's why you see a lot of injuries though. You know,
Speaker 2: even with the Cup, it's like, man, and people don't
Speaker 2: understand the intensity of playing for something early in the season.
Speaker 2: Is it just you just exert way more energy than
Speaker 2: you do on a double overtime game in direct you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's just like it's your sensors are up, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 3: The calf and.
Speaker 1: These injuries you speak of myself tonight, calf right, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's calf injuries, it's halmstring injuries, soft issue injuries. Because
Speaker 1: all the way down exactly what's more than not comes
Speaker 1: from fatigue over you. You know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: those are where those injuries come from, and so.
Speaker 3: I'm not one to sit and complain about them. You know.
Speaker 1: For me personally, I think you know, people will say, like, yo,
Speaker 1: you should shorten the season. I don't believe that. And
Speaker 1: the reason I don't believe that is because a we played.
Speaker 1: It goes back to what I said to Jason Tator
Speaker 1: when I was telling him we should all play in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty Olympics. In twenty one we started just
Speaker 1: to build Hall of Fame resumes. The guys that played
Speaker 1: before us play eighty two games in order for us
Speaker 1: to compete against them.
Speaker 3: As far as resume building, we need those eighty two games.
Speaker 3: Another another reason I don't think this season should be shorter.
Speaker 3: Who taking less money?
Speaker 1: Everybody always be like, oh, if they only played seventy
Speaker 1: games as opposed to eighty two games, that's twelve less
Speaker 1: games somebody paid. There's twelve less gates that's being collected.
Speaker 1: That's twelve less TV appearances of TV games. This means
Speaker 1: that's twelve less sponsorships on the court. That's twelve less
Speaker 1: sponsorships on the seat. That's twelve less sponsorship games. That's
Speaker 1: twelve less games of sponsorships on the stasion of the WHO.
Speaker 1: That's twelve less opportunities to make millions of dollars.
Speaker 3: Who taking less money.
Speaker 1: No, So when people are like, oh, they should shorten
Speaker 1: the season, no, they should because ain't nobody agreeing to
Speaker 1: take less money. And if you shorten the game, the
Speaker 1: games and the schedule that map just don't work. So
Speaker 1: I am not of that consortium of like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: gods should sit out, I mean, should shortened season. No,
Speaker 1: when you're hurt, this is what we do, and this
Speaker 1: is a part of what we do.
Speaker 3: A part of what we do is getting injured. Like
Speaker 3: when you play what we play in the NFL, it's not.
Speaker 1: If you get an injured, it's win. So that's just
Speaker 1: part of what we put our bodies through. And people
Speaker 1: just need to understand that guys are going to get
Speaker 1: hurt and that's just the reality of it. And you
Speaker 1: should know and trust that guys want to be on
Speaker 1: the court. Guys are working their ass off to get back.
Speaker 3: On the court.
Speaker 2: But even more so, even more importantly than working their
Speaker 2: ass off to get important.
Speaker 3: The work that guys are doing to stay on the court, you'd.
Speaker 1: Never imagine, and so no trust as fans of this
Speaker 1: sport that injuries are going to happen. That's just the
Speaker 1: nature of what we put our body through with the travel,
Speaker 1: with the pound and the competition that we go in
Speaker 1: to battle that were going into night in and night out.
Speaker 1: The injuries are going to happen.
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Speaker 2: So the thirteen man rotation to start a season that
Speaker 2: it's almost like you're validating that saying that, like it's
Speaker 2: important to play a lot of your players early in
Speaker 2: the season based on preserving you know, your superstars or
Speaker 2: you know, for you guys have a thirteen minute rotation.
Speaker 2: Now Step is saying we gotta start cutting. Can you
Speaker 2: just explain thirteen and how you start dwindling, you know,
Speaker 2: as far as the season go, how you start like
Speaker 2: ramping up and ramping down in your rotation to get
Speaker 2: prepared for the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So interestingly enough, as you know, people don't start ramping
Speaker 1: down till after the All Star break, you start to
Speaker 1: kind of shorten that rotation all of a sudden. If
Speaker 1: you were playing eleven guys, now you're playing nine.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You getting in the playoffs, some.
Speaker 1: People only go eight deep, you know, and when you
Speaker 1: get in the playoff games, that's never It's really if
Speaker 1: you go back and look at any Steve Kirk coach team,
Speaker 1: that's never been our m O. It's only seven or
Speaker 1: eight d never ever been our m O. That's why
Speaker 1: you've had the Ian Clarks, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's why you've had those different Quinn Cooks. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Guys, who Quinn Cook played in the
Speaker 1: NBA finals man like Queen Cook Queen Cookies, Queen Cook
Speaker 1: played in the NBA Finals like he didn't just like.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, like Swags.
Speaker 1: A little different, like Swag's career in the league point
Speaker 1: scorer before close to it.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. But I mentioned of guys
Speaker 3: like Ian Clarkett and.
Speaker 1: For sure Cook is because they were fringe guys, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: They were French guys that work their way onto teams.
Speaker 3: To my other dude, what's the other dude?
Speaker 1: H McCall, Oh, Patrick McCall, Well, he was the second
Speaker 1: round pick. But you got like the one Tuscano understand,
Speaker 1: like Tho Damien Les, like all of them due out
Speaker 1: the mud, undrafted, worked their way up through the G League,
Speaker 1: made the team and then actually contributed.
Speaker 3: The reason you know, those names.
Speaker 1: That that has competed with us and won championships are
Speaker 1: because Steve has never ever been the guy who's just
Speaker 1: gonna run his guys into the ground.
Speaker 3: All right, So now now let's take this a step further.
Speaker 1: The top two guys, it's thirty four and thirty six
Speaker 1: about to be thirty five and thirty seven. Do I
Speaker 1: run them into the ground or do I take advantage
Speaker 1: of what Mike Dunleey has done and use.
Speaker 3: All this Yeah, yeah, I got yeah, I got fun.
Speaker 1: When we were just twelve and three, everybody's like, oh man,
Speaker 1: they're using depth and it's working. When you lose four
Speaker 1: in a row, Like Steph said, there is always something
Speaker 1: that has to change. And the first thing you're going
Speaker 1: to look at because it's the most abnormal thing in our.
Speaker 2: And that is that is that's more app like we're
Speaker 2: not talking about usually it's like, okay, nine, maybe a
Speaker 2: coach play ten. If you got an eleven man like
Speaker 2: from a coaches perspective, like an eleven man rotation, bro
Speaker 2: is insane, you know what I mean, A thirteen man rotation.
Speaker 2: It's unheard got it's unheard of. You gotta be you
Speaker 2: gotta be out of your mind to be able to
Speaker 2: understand rhythm, flow time, schedule, playing time. Who play thirteen people?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And so it's tough.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's tough to get a rhythm like you know, like.
Speaker 1: To STEP's point, right, like to STEP's point, he said,
Speaker 1: We she said, do we need to shorten it, we
Speaker 1: probably need to be more predictable on the night to
Speaker 1: night basis, so guys can get a little bit of rhythm.
Speaker 1: Is that shortening one or two guys?
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 1: So the steps point and what Steph is saying, I
Speaker 1: absolutely agree with the rhythm thing. Uh, you like, you
Speaker 1: need to play and play a little time to find
Speaker 1: a rhythm in this league. Because also if you're subbing
Speaker 1: into the game, guess what when you subbing at the
Speaker 1: six minute mark, I've been out there for six minutes
Speaker 1: already getting the finding the flow of the game, getting
Speaker 1: getting the jitters out, you know, like I've been out
Speaker 1: there for six So now you're coming into that and
Speaker 1: you gotta find a rhythm to do that in two
Speaker 1: minutes or three minutes against gods who's already been out
Speaker 1: there for six minutes, it gets a little tough. And
Speaker 1: so what I will say is I totally understand Steve's theory.
Speaker 1: I totally understand why the rotation has been deep. And
Speaker 1: I wasn't necess necessarily totally against it thirteen deep. Originally
Speaker 1: it was like eleven or twelve. Now it's thirteen. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I think that can get
Speaker 1: a little tough, for sure. But I'm also not going
Speaker 1: to sit here and like I said, I wholeheartedly.
Speaker 2: It's a method to agree. It's a method right here.
Speaker 2: It's a method to the methods, for sure.
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to sit and act like we
Speaker 1: lost four games in a row because the rotation was
Speaker 1: too deep.
Speaker 3: Like, nah, we ain't lose four games in a.
Speaker 1: Row because the rotation was too deep. I can tell
Speaker 1: you why we lost four games in a row. We
Speaker 1: lost four games in a row because we absolutely bombed
Speaker 1: won to San Antonio and lost an eighteen point lead
Speaker 1: and midway through the third quarter, and then we absolutely
Speaker 1: bombed another one against the Brooklyn Nets, a seventeen point
Speaker 1: lead in the third quarter. All right, and we're on
Speaker 1: a four game losing streak.
Speaker 2: So right, the third quarter team exactly quarter team too.
Speaker 3: You take care of those two wins.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, we're on a two difference and
Speaker 2: we are fourteen and.
Speaker 3: Five and in first place in the West.
Speaker 2: Right, So to overreact, and not that I think Steph
Speaker 2: is overreacting, because.
Speaker 1: That is a sentiment. That's a real sentiment, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's a real thing. But I mean
Speaker 1: out in the world of people that don't know what
Speaker 1: the hell they're talking about. I'm not going to overreact
Speaker 1: and try to pinpoint one thing because those two games
Speaker 1: go the way they should have.
Speaker 3: And now now where you yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: Rotation is wearing them out, But I mean, oh, hold on,
Speaker 2: be I will say this though. Here's what I will say.
Speaker 1: Now when you look at the thirteen man in rotation
Speaker 1: in those two games, where I think and I have
Speaker 1: not heard anyone make this argument, but I will help them.
Speaker 1: These people out that are trying to just throw step
Speaker 1: under the bus, I'll help them out if they want
Speaker 1: to make an argument. But I'm also only helping you
Speaker 1: out because most of y'all are dummies and y'all couldn't.
Speaker 3: Make it for yourselves.
Speaker 1: And which is if you want to condemn the rotation,
Speaker 1: then what your argument should have been as well when
Speaker 1: we lost those eighteen to seventeen point leads, A part
Speaker 1: of that thirteen rotation was in its Stephen Draymond. And
Speaker 1: now if you want to make that point, that would
Speaker 1: more legitimize your argument as far as the rotation goes
Speaker 1: and what.
Speaker 3: Has happened in the last four games.
Speaker 1: But if you're just gonna generally throw out, hey man,
Speaker 1: it's a thirteen man rotation. And that's the problem you have.
Speaker 1: You don't have real evidence to back up your statement.
Speaker 1: The real evidence is when they lost those leads. Stephen
Speaker 1: Draymond should have been back in earlier. If the rotation
Speaker 1: with shorton Moses' movie was playing great, right like those
Speaker 1: are would be the argument since saying that those same
Speaker 1: guys that was on the court were the same, ain't
Speaker 1: guys that helped us get off?
Speaker 2: And remember, I think we talked about this in one
Speaker 2: of the episodes. Everything is a learning current, right, So
Speaker 2: in that thirteen you know what I mean, there's a
Speaker 2: winning combination and a confident five or two combinations of
Speaker 2: five that's super confident and gotta go through.
Speaker 4: Ay man, we messed that up, yes, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 3: It's not on Dre. It's not on Steph.
Speaker 2: You know like when my rookie year, when I was
Speaker 2: coming off the bench, I only had about a good
Speaker 2: four five minutes to hit a jump. If I don't
Speaker 2: if I don't make my first jumper, bro, I better
Speaker 2: get a steal something, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 2: so like that type of rhythm and flow. It's it's
Speaker 2: hard for even the bench guys to get into a rhythm.
Speaker 2: But once you kind of figure it out, like in
Speaker 2: that you got a confident fight, and you gotta go
Speaker 2: through some ups and downs during the season in order
Speaker 2: to know how to get past it, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, in order to accept the responsible responsibility. And
Speaker 2: I think it's smart to start off with thirteen and say, hey,
Speaker 2: this is working, this is Roland. Okay, let's go to
Speaker 2: eleven in December. Okay, January, we're at eleven. We're going
Speaker 2: to ten in January.
Speaker 3: February we had ten after All Star weekend.
Speaker 4: Boom, I'm at nod.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Then again, you don't know which combinations is gonna be
Speaker 2: sticky too. And so I think when Steph is saying,
Speaker 2: you know, being predictable, he said, even for himself, right, yeah, no, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I can do this boop fake go around to pick Jmond,
Speaker 2: Well who else is all?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: In rhythm and then key with intune of what y'all doing.
Speaker 2: So I think the predictability is like, all right, you
Speaker 2: dudes need to sit on the bench and and and
Speaker 2: be ready still, but you need to see like Okay,
Speaker 2: this is how we're gonna pace ourselves for the rest
Speaker 2: of the year, you know what I mean, because the
Speaker 2: thirteen is like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I've been y'a.
Speaker 2: I've been wearing people down, out running them speed, you
Speaker 2: know what I.
Speaker 4: Mean, playing at a high high paste.
Speaker 2: You know that as the season starts to go, you
Speaker 2: ain't gonna be able to play at that clip.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. It's tough.
Speaker 2: It's tough to sustain that. And that's you know, I
Speaker 2: think that's pretty much what he's said.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 2: I saw I saw you and KD. I saw you
Speaker 2: hit the three and you're saying something to KD uh,
Speaker 2: And then he hit the three on you, and y'all
Speaker 2: was man, y'all was yeah, was yeah.
Speaker 3: I was chopping And then.
Speaker 1: Got shot the first three B on the left wing,
Speaker 1: huh and it felt so good and matt ISHB and moles.
Speaker 3: Here, my smart dog.
Speaker 1: I shoot the first one on the wing, and I
Speaker 1: got K in front of me. I got them too,
Speaker 1: sitting right of course side behind me. And so I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm about to hit this three, and I'm about to
Speaker 1: say something K and then I'm about to turn around
Speaker 1: I'm about to say.
Speaker 3: Something, and I'm about to say something, right, I missed it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, ah.
Speaker 1: So we come back down the court and I get
Speaker 1: to Tracy in the right right corner and K kind
Speaker 1: of closed out but not aggressively closed, and so I
Speaker 1: hit the three. I'm like, yeah, motherfucker, you better.
Speaker 3: He started.
Speaker 2: So then my dumb ass go help me in. I
Speaker 2: go help me and they hit K in the corner.
Speaker 2: K seven feet you know, you know, I.
Speaker 1: Come, I come flying out, I get my corner contest. Wow,
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, no, you know, I shoot that motherucker.
Speaker 3: And the banter.
Speaker 1: The bencher was so good man, and we was bantering
Speaker 1: back and forth the whole game, and it was great
Speaker 1: banter man. I enjoyed it when I get the opportunity
Speaker 1: to play against K. And it goes back to my
Speaker 1: rookie year mark when KD had fifty four on us
Speaker 1: and I got through in that fire late because he
Speaker 1: was dragging Harrison Barnes and.
Speaker 3: A couple other guys.
Speaker 1: And then I got through into that fire that was
Speaker 1: already blazing, and he continued on on his way and
Speaker 1: he ended up with fifty four. I remember those I
Speaker 1: still remember those matchups, and I remember the filling.
Speaker 3: That I had when I was going into those matchups.
Speaker 1: I wasn't Draymond Green, Who's been a Defensive Player of
Speaker 1: the Year, an All Star, and the NBA champion. I
Speaker 1: was Draymond Green's second round pick, trying to make a
Speaker 1: name for myself, and the opportunity to play against Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant was one that I cherished because I have an
Speaker 1: opportunity right in front of me to go up against
Speaker 1: the game great and one of the greats. And when
Speaker 1: I would have the opportunity, it be like, man, this
Speaker 1: is my chance to show that I belong on this
Speaker 1: court with these types of guys.
Speaker 3: And if I can just make it hard on him.
Speaker 1: Nobody's expecting me to come out and lock Kevin Duranton,
Speaker 1: but if I can make it hard on him, like man,
Speaker 1: I did my job tonight. And I still think about
Speaker 1: those matchups and where I was then.
Speaker 3: To be who I am now.
Speaker 1: I still have that same sentiment when I go on
Speaker 1: the court, and when I go on the court and
Speaker 1: I play against Kevin Durant, I'm like, yo, I gotta
Speaker 1: sit down, because it's also an opportunity for me still
Speaker 1: to this day to see where I am defensively.
Speaker 3: Can I keep up with a KD? Can I make
Speaker 3: it a little tough?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: And so just having that battle that banter was great, man,
Speaker 1: and I enjoyed the hell out of it.
Speaker 4: I mean, he has some great stuff to say about too.
Speaker 7: When Draymond's at this best is like a good balance
Speaker 7: between being ultra aggressive and being on edge and also
Speaker 7: just being a cerebral monster that he is. And I
Speaker 7: think he's found that balance even better. I feel like
Speaker 7: he always had it. Sometimes you tip the scales a bit,
Speaker 7: and I think he's found that balance as he getting older,
Speaker 7: as he experienced more things in the league, more things
Speaker 7: in life in general. And you can just tell a
Speaker 7: by the start of this season that you know, he's
Speaker 7: playing his best ball, shooting the buck basketball well this year,
Speaker 7: I think over forty percent, you know. So you just tell, man,
Speaker 7: he's just all his experiences up until this time has
Speaker 7: just helped him out and made him the player of yesterday.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: When I actually saw this quote after the game, I
Speaker 2: think the next day, and I was.
Speaker 3: Thankful. I was thankful. I was appreciative because.
Speaker 1: And I am always someone that addresses things had on
Speaker 1: last year, I got suspended with stuff with Nurkic and
Speaker 1: Kad said something that I didn't like because I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: kay got my number, Like you're going to go out
Speaker 1: publicly and feed this narrative, Like yo, I hope you
Speaker 1: get the help he need. I was upset about it,
Speaker 1: and I felt a way and I was pissed. And
Speaker 1: you know, I saw Kad in the off season and
Speaker 1: we we we we chopped it up. We chopped it
Speaker 1: up and man, the man, face the face, we chopped
Speaker 1: it up, and I told him how I felt. He
Speaker 1: told me how he felt and that damn I didn't
Speaker 1: think that would be seen that way.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. And we and we and
Speaker 3: we talked about it.
Speaker 1: And then for him to come out and say this,
Speaker 1: when you shared this, dang with something for someone, uh,
Speaker 1: with something that someone does. When you share that, don't
Speaker 1: be a hypocrite and when they say something, well, you
Speaker 1: don't appreciate that, you know what I'm saying, Because when
Speaker 1: he said that most things that many most many things
Speaker 1: that most people say, they don't bother me, they don't
Speaker 1: affect me.
Speaker 3: I really don't give it that.
Speaker 1: Kate is someone else Kate says something, I care. You know,
Speaker 1: I cared a lot when he said that about me
Speaker 1: last year. I'm not a hypocrite that's going to sit
Speaker 1: here and say I don't care a lot that he
Speaker 1: said this. I care a lot that he said and
Speaker 1: it means a lot to me and my personal growth.
Speaker 1: But also anytime you hear from your peers and especially
Speaker 1: in the world bro that are as great as a
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant and you hear him say the cerebral monster
Speaker 1: that he is, he's playing his best basketball. He's found
Speaker 1: that balance of aren't your aggressive and on the edge,
Speaker 1: but boom, when you hear that from your peers, especially
Speaker 1: one that you've gone to war with, won a championship with,
Speaker 1: and one opinion that really to you. I was extremely
Speaker 1: appreciative of this comment because it also is validation to
Speaker 1: me of the things that you are working on are
Speaker 1: showing you know what I'm saying KD.
Speaker 3: I said last year.
Speaker 1: KD was always he was someone that will say to me,
Speaker 1: when people say, oh, that's just Draymond being Draymond, he'd
Speaker 1: be like, now, sometimes people give you that excuse. And
Speaker 1: he said these words to me verbatim before he said, Yo,
Speaker 1: Sometimes people give you an excuse to like, that's just
Speaker 1: Draymond being Draymond.
Speaker 3: But I know what Draymond looked like at his best.
Speaker 3: He said that. Those words to me verbatim, right, And.
Speaker 1: So to hear him say this as someone who I
Speaker 1: know will call me on my bullshit.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, someone that ain't just you
Speaker 3: being Draymond, that's you bullshiting.
Speaker 1: That's someone who I know will say that because he
Speaker 1: has said that to me. For him to say this,
Speaker 1: it really meant a lot to me because it's your
Speaker 1: brother approven of what he see from you. But also
Speaker 1: and just my personal growth, my personal journey. For him
Speaker 1: to see that he.
Speaker 2: Saw when he was sucked up and he said it so,
Speaker 2: and we don't like when people say bad things about.
Speaker 1: Us, and he seeing when it's going well and he
Speaker 1: said it, and I respect that. I appreciate that because again,
Speaker 1: you say what you want about Kevin Durrant, he is
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. He is one of the stars of not
Speaker 1: only generation. He absolutely I was very appreciative.
Speaker 2: Somebody built Kevin Durant and my player before he was born.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he wound up being Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take I'm gonna make my guys. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: create my player. He's gonna be set. But I love
Speaker 1: this because you know, you play your whole career and
Speaker 1: you have, you know, cross admiration for the dudes you
Speaker 1: compete against, even the dudes you may deem you don't
Speaker 1: like or may not like. Like remember when we was
Speaker 1: having Rondo, we was having a conversation with Rondo.
Speaker 4: It was like, man, I don't like Rondo.
Speaker 2: Why I don't like Rondo is because I love Rondo
Speaker 2: and I want to play like Rondo.
Speaker 3: I'm mad he gets layups. I'm mad, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: But it's all in admiration, yes, until you really get
Speaker 2: a chance to, like see somebody give flowers a lot
Speaker 2: a lot of flowers being given out when you playing
Speaker 2: and when you're in the trenches with people, because you
Speaker 2: just don't want to give somebody that edge, and so
Speaker 2: any type of acknowledgement from your peers, especially the great,
Speaker 2: especially the real ones. Right for me, I started learning
Speaker 2: to like accept that, like hold on, man, like damn,
Speaker 2: that's how you know, because I love talking about great players,
Speaker 2: right and whether before you may have heard like I
Speaker 2: want to talk about him now. Man, I just respect
Speaker 2: damn near every player in the league sept for a
Speaker 2: few because it's like it's so hard to get there.
Speaker 2: But like they were great, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: they were like like their greatness was great, and like
Speaker 2: every day they showed up to practice, whether you are
Speaker 2: a bench player or whether you're a superstar. Now, the
Speaker 2: superstars they hold a lot more credence. And so when
Speaker 2: they talking about you, you walk in that room and
Speaker 2: they like they know you, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Them your brothers, they know you.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And so that that that just put a whole different
Speaker 2: type of battery pack. But I think it's also a
Speaker 2: validation a lot of times because you don't get the flowers.
Speaker 2: Like Draymond Green ain't getting the flowers that he deserve
Speaker 2: right now, Lebron James ain't getting the flowers he deserved.
Speaker 2: Steph Curry ain't getting the flowers he deserved, you know,
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant and getting the flowers he designs. Come on, bro,
Speaker 2: it's it's like you when you play your nobody's ever
Speaker 2: like the kids, you know what I mean, The kids
Speaker 2: gonna love you. But the media to me has never
Speaker 2: been the validation. No, it's always your peers. It's always
Speaker 2: your peers. But that's why I love like doing media
Speaker 2: now because now you got podcasters.
Speaker 4: And former athletes and retired dudes.
Speaker 2: Like we know the game and we know who is
Speaker 2: real and we know who not real, you know, and
Speaker 2: so like having that admiration shout out to KD you know,
Speaker 2: for just big up in you right and letting people know, man, yeah,
Speaker 2: letting people know like what it really is, right because
Speaker 2: a lot of times the media, y'all be playing games
Speaker 2: and you know, these are bonds and brotherhoods, and you
Speaker 2: know we we our own little tight knit community.
Speaker 4: So you know, it's just like that like giving you
Speaker 4: your flowers in this moment.
Speaker 1: In his time, it was really dumb. Now it was fire.
Speaker 1: I appreciated the hell out of it. Like I said
Speaker 1: to your Rondo point, that was always me with Chris
Speaker 1: Paul before I played with CP. Well, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I hate dude, but I would tell all my boys, like, y'all,
Speaker 1: I don't mess with him at all, but I got
Speaker 1: the utmost respect as a competitor. I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: even even when I didn't like seeing when we was
Speaker 1: at odds, I said publicly, like yo, people try to.
Speaker 3: Say CP not a winner. That's just not true.
Speaker 1: You try to say this man out of winner because
Speaker 1: he hasn't had the luck to win a championship. Follow
Speaker 1: up said, because he has not had the luck of
Speaker 1: winning a championship. And you try to say this guy
Speaker 1: not a winner. I know a loser and I know
Speaker 1: a winner. And when I play against this guy, I'm
Speaker 1: not playing against a loser. I am competing against one
Speaker 1: of the ultimate winners. And but I hated him, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But a part of the hate was, Bro,
Speaker 1: you be doing something of that shit I be doing it.
Speaker 1: I don't really like that, you know what I'm saying, Like, Bro,
Speaker 1: you be doing something of that stuff I be doing
Speaker 1: on the court.
Speaker 3: Bro with it.
Speaker 1: So a part of it is like a little bit
Speaker 1: of jealousy, Like, man, y'all, let' see P get away
Speaker 1: with this.
Speaker 3: I can't get away with nothing right like.
Speaker 1: Admiration, but the way this man compete with he on
Speaker 1: the court, Like I remember my rookie year with Jared
Speaker 1: Jack and see he played together in New Orleans.
Speaker 3: Jared Jack is my vet and Cep and Jack.
Speaker 1: Got in the words, got in an argument, and right
Speaker 1: there I was like, that's interesting because.
Speaker 3: They tight, like I know, they got a relationship, and.
Speaker 1: They going back and forth like arguing, And right then
Speaker 1: was when I noticed, like, Okay, I see what type
Speaker 1: of dudes he is.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He'll care I like you or not. He gonna try
Speaker 1: to take you out when he playing against you, and
Speaker 1: it is what it is. And so I definitely understand,
Speaker 1: you know, I agree with you on on that.
Speaker 3: And that was a great moment from me. I ain't
Speaker 3: gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and act like I'm too
Speaker 1: big to appreciate the contact.
Speaker 3: That's Kevin Durrett. I appreciated the hell out of that. Man.
Speaker 3: We appreciate you, KD man.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 1: Moving ahead, uh, big week ahead for us obviously, like
Speaker 1: I said, riding this four game street, we have Denver
Speaker 1: coming up. Then Denver and then we got Houston and
Speaker 1: then we got on the back to back, we got
Speaker 1: Houston and then or it's either Houston and Minnesota or
Speaker 1: Minnesota in Houston. Big week and saying that a tough week,
Speaker 1: especially riding the four game losing streak, tough, tough, tough week. Uh,
Speaker 1: facing Joker tonight, I won't obviously be able to face him,
Speaker 1: which sucks, but that's all you know. When you're playing
Speaker 1: against the Joker, it's always a tough matchup because when
Speaker 1: Joker has the ball, he's one of the better scores
Speaker 1: in our league.
Speaker 3: I think he's averaging right around thirty points a game, damn.
Speaker 1: But when he has the ball, everyone on the court
Speaker 1: is live because he can find you and get the
Speaker 1: ball wherever you are, if you're open, yep, and so
Speaker 1: everyone else when he has the ball is live, as
Speaker 1: opposed to say, let's just DJ out there. Let's say
Speaker 1: DeAndre for that matter, if DeAndre got the ball, everybody
Speaker 1: not live because he can't necessarily make every play. The
Speaker 1: Joker he can make every single play, So everybody on
Speaker 1: the court with him is.
Speaker 3: Live at all.
Speaker 2: And it's not even just on scoring. It can be
Speaker 2: on the past, it can be on the pick. We've
Speaker 2: never seen something like Joker a point center drinktly like
Speaker 2: he's a sinner and a point guard body with a
Speaker 2: point guard brain, you know what I mean, with one
Speaker 2: of them brains that you know what I mean? You
Speaker 2: gotta be one of the ones to have one of
Speaker 2: the minds like that to be able to play the
Speaker 2: way he plays. Yes, it's so unorthodox, right, but if
Speaker 2: you watch, he's really just a pointed He's really a
Speaker 2: point guard. It's really a he's Andre Miller. He's he's
Speaker 2: like Andre Miller in the like his mind, Andre Miller
Speaker 2: was brilliant, like brilliant man. He knows how to set
Speaker 2: the table and then at the end of the game
Speaker 2: he's gonna walk you down in the post and then
Speaker 2: he gonna start setting the table. It's like jokers live
Speaker 2: all over the pushing it which is a slow push.
Speaker 2: You're not ripping, you know what I mean? Like that
Speaker 2: Junker is something else, dude, is he's.
Speaker 1: A tough cover. He a tough cover. And like I said,
Speaker 1: what makes them such a tough cover is in most
Speaker 1: cases you'd say, hey, that guy gonna get thirty. It
Speaker 1: is what it is. You try to make it tough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with him, he going to get thirty in twelve assists
Speaker 1: and thirteen rebounds. And so he just he causes so
Speaker 1: much problems for your defense because of all of the
Speaker 1: things that he does, and the ball is touching his
Speaker 1: hand every percent time. I wish I was out there
Speaker 1: to help with that matchup. But in saying that, good
Speaker 1: luck loaning Trace let him get the experience I.
Speaker 3: Wish I could.
Speaker 1: I always love, like I just said, Okay, I love
Speaker 1: playing against the grace man, just to just to see
Speaker 1: how you used, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: want to be out there, but it's unfortunate that I
Speaker 1: can't be. I gotta get this calf together.
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 1: I just don't want it to go so so I
Speaker 1: gotta get this thing together. It's tight right now. But
Speaker 1: good luck Lunas tricks, good luck man. Junker is my guy.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna learn a lot, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Especially Chase, you'll learn a lot. It's not
Speaker 2: even the assists are not even like they're not point
Speaker 2: guard assists.
Speaker 3: No, they're more pompent because it's wide open.
Speaker 2: Shots are layups so like, and it's coming from the
Speaker 2: big guy, yeah, coming from the center. So to me,
Speaker 2: it's mind boggling because yeah, he can throw out a
Speaker 2: double team because he's gonna get double team. He also
Speaker 2: like hitting dudes on the back door cut, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. But coming jumping in there fighting people
Speaker 2: opening and like that's that's man. Now you got the
Speaker 2: Rockets coming in on Thursday. Second best team in the West.
Speaker 2: As you know, I picked them as my underdog, my sleeper,
Speaker 2: you know for the season.
Speaker 4: I mean I like what they're doing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Talk to me a little bit about the Rockets, uh,
Speaker 2: and like.
Speaker 4: You know, you y'all play them all. Y'all playing them.
Speaker 2: Already, right yeah with out stuff actually yeah.
Speaker 4: And tell me what you see now. Oh yeah, that
Speaker 4: was a good game.
Speaker 3: I remember that game. Yeah, yeah, over time, but they
Speaker 3: can't ye eat name.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, he was getting up really well.
Speaker 3: He played really well.
Speaker 1: But I know, but I'm not I'm not surprised at
Speaker 1: all that they're at, you know, right there at the
Speaker 1: top of the West, second best record in the West
Speaker 1: right now. Uh, because they've made moves over the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. That shows you that they that's where
Speaker 1: they want to be, you know, bringing in the uh
Speaker 1: Fred van Vleet, who's winner, a champion, bringing him in
Speaker 1: with all those young guys, bringing in a Dyllen Brooks
Speaker 1: who a lot of people hate, but you hate him
Speaker 1: because he played hard.
Speaker 3: You know, you hate him because he always in the mix.
Speaker 1: You hate him because he gonna fuck with your best player,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like it's one of those
Speaker 1: guys you hate to have them on you, you hate
Speaker 1: to play against them. People love having them on their team,
Speaker 1: right like they You bring in guys like that, even
Speaker 1: a signing that they made last year that people don't
Speaker 1: talk about because he don't play much, Jeff Green, but
Speaker 1: you bring that, You bring that veteran presence into the
Speaker 1: locker room with all those young guys.
Speaker 3: That stuff matters, you know what I'm saying. Jalen.
Speaker 1: I talked about Jalen Green earlier in our season, I
Speaker 1: mean our podcast season and just the growth that I've
Speaker 1: seen from him, you know, Singoon like the guy who
Speaker 1: doesn't I'm gonna tell you, the guy who doesn't get
Speaker 1: talked about. But I'm telling you and I play against them.
Speaker 1: He is so important to what they do, but he
Speaker 1: don't get talked about it all much anymore. Jabarsmith Junior
Speaker 1: Jabari Smith has turned into a guy who makes all
Speaker 1: the little players who He's always the guy that when
Speaker 1: you on the court, out there with them, he's like,
Speaker 1: come on, fellas were good, Like he reassuring them to
Speaker 1: keep going like he's turning into like one of the
Speaker 1: leaders of that team, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: he don't get talked about much, but Jabari Smith Junior,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I'm not surprised that they're having a good season.
Speaker 2: And then also obviously Ma you Donker, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, May Different, He is an incredible coach, Man different.
Speaker 1: You know what you see in Boston. What you see
Speaker 1: in Boston credit to Joe Missoula and what but what
Speaker 1: you see in Boston, those guys are also a product
Speaker 1: of what May brought to them for that year that
Speaker 1: he was with them. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: The mindset that he brought to us guys, absolutely, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm not extremely surprised that there that the Rockets
Speaker 1: are playing this well. And and then just looking ahead
Speaker 1: to the man and the timberwo was after that, they're
Speaker 1: starting to play better now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: They got off to.
Speaker 1: A rough start, yeah, and so that's going to be
Speaker 1: a tough weekend as well. But on the flip side,
Speaker 1: when you look at tough games like this and us
Speaker 1: on a four game losing street.
Speaker 3: You can also win those games and right the ship.
Speaker 3: Like it's one thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's one thing to beat a team that has an
Speaker 1: awful record and think like, oh man, we got off
Speaker 1: the losing street. But to have to get off the
Speaker 1: loser street the ones we're going to be playing against,
Speaker 1: those are the type of things that can right the
Speaker 1: ship and right the ship in a major way and
Speaker 1: seen you on the run. So as tough as the
Speaker 1: opportunity is, just like when you invest your money or
Speaker 1: anything else in life, the bigger the risks, the tougher
Speaker 1: it is, the bigger the reward, the bigger the return.
Speaker 3: So tough, tough week.
Speaker 4: For and they're not having you, you know tonight.
Speaker 2: Now you start looking at that thirteen man rotation and
Speaker 2: you say, oh, now a thing can say okay, well
Speaker 2: Draymond is out. Like we got other players that have
Speaker 2: been playing you know what I mean, that can do stuff,
Speaker 2: and like now we feel like, okay, we still got
Speaker 2: a shot because we've been playing thirteen you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, So, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be fine. We'll be fine. I like.
Speaker 1: I like that thirteen or twelve or seven or something
Speaker 1: like that will be I.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's early, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 2: you ain't even hit twenty games yet. For sure, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. For sure, it's that thirty game mark.
Speaker 2: It's the thirty game mark, in the forty game mark.
Speaker 2: Once you hit the thirty game mark, Okay, these next
Speaker 2: ten games are the most critical games that we can
Speaker 2: play when you get to that forty game because then
Speaker 2: you know how many games you can win, how many
Speaker 2: games you can lose if you make the playoffs or not.
Speaker 2: That's where the calculations start. Sorry said, So it's all
Speaker 2: good man.
Speaker 1: Let's dive into what's going on around this league, my brother.
Speaker 1: There has been a lot a lot of talk about
Speaker 1: Brian the shooting slump that he's been in as of late.
Speaker 1: He scored just ten points against the Timberwolves, but he
Speaker 1: did have twenty seven and fourteen against the Jazz. However,
Speaker 1: the twenty seven and fourteen he still had a rough
Speaker 1: shooting night, not hitting any threes. People have been on
Speaker 1: it him not hitting threes as of late. I think
Speaker 1: the last I said he was old for his last
Speaker 1: nineteen and so, of course shooting father time conversations has
Speaker 1: started up now. Yeah, everybody wants to know his father
Speaker 1: time catching up with Brian.
Speaker 3: The answer is yes. And the reason the answers yes
Speaker 3: is because every.
Speaker 1: Year we get older in this league, Like every year
Speaker 1: you get older, there's a point where you come in
Speaker 1: this league, and every year you get older you get
Speaker 1: better because you get more experienced, you're coming more into
Speaker 1: your prime, you're getting stronger. And then every it gets
Speaker 1: to a point to where every year you get older
Speaker 1: you have to address and adjust and because now you're
Speaker 1: kind of over the heel of the more experience you get,
Speaker 1: the better it is for you.
Speaker 3: You're kind of over that hell now.
Speaker 1: And so it's father time catching up to him, absolutely,
Speaker 1: because father time catches up to everyone are However, what
Speaker 1: where I disagree is people are saying we just.
Speaker 3: Saw it, he's done now, we've been waiting on it.
Speaker 1: Now he's done. No, no, no, I disagree with that
Speaker 1: quite frankly. What it looks like to me right now
Speaker 1: is he's a little tired. But you also have to remember,
Speaker 1: and I know all of y'all have forgot because you
Speaker 1: forget things so fast, But what you have to remember
Speaker 1: is you know they played into the playoffs last year
Speaker 1: they fought an uphill battle to actually make it.
Speaker 3: There and get to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And then he comes in and he does the Olympics,
Speaker 1: and that is a two month a two month requirement,
Speaker 1: no time on week, no time off. And so what
Speaker 1: I think right now is I think Bron has just
Speaker 1: hit a little bit of a wall right now. When
Speaker 1: you hit walls, you eventually get through the wall, dingy.
Speaker 1: But right now I think he's a little tired, has
Speaker 1: hit a wall. Does that mean father time is catching
Speaker 1: up to him the way y'all are saying that, No, no,
Speaker 1: so still the same Bron? Obviously not the same. Of course,
Speaker 1: again he is getting older. But what the way people
Speaker 1: are trying to throw it out there like father time
Speaker 1: has caught them and it's here in our face and
Speaker 1: we're just about to watch this decline happen.
Speaker 3: No, but what's your thoughts.
Speaker 4: BD, brother? There is no decline. Usually when you get older, right,
Speaker 4: you do a lot what less?
Speaker 3: Absolutely right?
Speaker 2: As you get older, you become a much better shooter.
Speaker 2: You usually are getting shots created for you by someone
Speaker 2: else who's young, talented, got you know, the most talent
Speaker 2: it used to be.
Speaker 3: You look at ray Aalen.
Speaker 2: People only remember ray Allen from Miami, but before that,
Speaker 2: ray Allen used to do everything, you know what I mean, Jesus,
Speaker 2: lebron James bro It's still playing the same way. He
Speaker 2: is creating the opportunities still for his teammates. Ain't nobody
Speaker 2: getting lebron no open looks, Ain't nobody getting lebrono easy buckets.
Speaker 2: Like he's still creating all of the like he has
Speaker 2: to create all the energy and the chaos and taking
Speaker 2: on his shoulders, you know what I mean, Because it
Speaker 2: like there hasn't been the young dude that has come
Speaker 2: along that compliment and say, you know what, og man,
Speaker 2: fall back, let me get this triple double.
Speaker 4: You go give me some thries and do what you
Speaker 4: gotta do. He don't have that luxury.
Speaker 2: And he's on a team with the Lakers where he's still,
Speaker 2: you know, the best all around player, the most you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, outside ad he is the most
Speaker 2: needed person because they got to glue up around him
Speaker 2: and so slump, yes, tired, yes, father time, Yes. All
Speaker 2: of those things play into everybody's career every year in
Speaker 2: the season, whether you're a rookie, second year like everybody
Speaker 2: hits a little snack where it's just like, hey man,
Speaker 2: it's cold, you know what I mean, it's coding these arenas.
Speaker 4: I ain't getting the shots, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I ain't get my rhythm.
Speaker 2: But you best believe when the Lakers play again, ain't
Speaker 2: gonna get over that slump. I'm not even worried about it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So you know, I remember
Speaker 2: playing against Mike bro when he played for the Wizards,
Speaker 2: and you know, he came into Charlotte and it was
Speaker 2: like that, it was the craziest shit I'd ever seen.
Speaker 2: There was no camera phones, but it was all kind
Speaker 2: of camera flashing and felt like everybody was recording with
Speaker 2: a camera phone. That's how many cameras were flashing. When
Speaker 2: he went to the free throw line, and I was
Speaker 2: sitting there like, damn man. You know, I had thirty
Speaker 2: two that night, and in my mind I was like,
Speaker 2: damn Bro, Like, I'm Michael Jordan night, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, I am your coptain now.
Speaker 3: And I was just looking at him like yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Just you know, sizing him up, like man, you brought
Speaker 2: all this attention for me. I'm out here, I'm Michael Jordan,
Speaker 2: No say nothing, no way, no way. I would never,
Speaker 2: I would never say nothing. I was just giving him
Speaker 2: that look like.
Speaker 4: Like, bro, you brought all this for me.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 4: Hey, they gonna be worrying about me tonight.
Speaker 2: And then we go on the road and we're playing
Speaker 2: the Washington Wizards and we got you know, we got Washington.
Speaker 2: They weren't that good either. We're like, man, we're about
Speaker 2: to go in here, We're about to pop them again.
Speaker 2: I'm about to give me another you know, I'm about
Speaker 2: to give me another twenty five twelve.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do a different on the road.
Speaker 2: And I watched this dude in the first quarter score
Speaker 2: seventeen points. Oh, he went off dramond I watched. I
Speaker 2: was not participating, Bro, I was so mesmerized. I was
Speaker 2: guarding Teelu. Hey, if you watch the clips, you'll see
Speaker 2: me never help, never help. And it comes calling time out.
Speaker 2: He like, Yo, what the hell y'all doing? Y'all just
Speaker 2: gonna let this man get cooked. It was lee Ningling.
Speaker 2: I said, damn, bro, my bad. I was just watching
Speaker 2: like I got your help. I was like, man, I
Speaker 2: got your help, let me get it. So I guard
Speaker 2: him the first time I know he going to the fade,
Speaker 2: so boo wo. He go to the fading and I'm
Speaker 2: on this. I'm on top of the fade. He go
Speaker 2: to fade.
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, get that ship and he leaned back.
Speaker 2: Like another ism. Okay, all right, man, I got this fool.
Speaker 2: He go to the post again. Boo boll, I know
Speaker 2: this ship coming. You about to turn to the middle.
Speaker 2: Turn to the middle. Oh up and under Hey somebody.
Speaker 3: Else can I'm going back over here with t Louke.
Speaker 4: I'm about to watch I'm cool. This is not cool.
Speaker 4: Hey dude, that's what.
Speaker 2: And you know, you see somebody like Mike like that
Speaker 2: and Lebron like it's the same thing. It's like, be
Speaker 2: careful because they they don't remember. But that Mike story
Speaker 2: was like damn dude, Like I'm just watching him. I'm like, damn, dude,
Speaker 2: what kind of cologne you got? Like?
Speaker 4: What kind of cologne? This this nigga smell.
Speaker 3: Goodie ship out here?
Speaker 4: You know what?
Speaker 1: Like, bro, you he had that that week ass Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan cologne.
Speaker 3: Michael but whatever whatever it was, whatever.
Speaker 2: It was, Michael Jordan was so he was like an enigma, dude.
Speaker 2: He was like a it was just like, oh, ship,
Speaker 2: you fucked. As soon as you do that, you fuck
Speaker 2: you can't like, but you're gonna do that.
Speaker 4: Oh damn, this is Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2: You're like, all right, Uncle Jordan, Like fuck, yo, you
Speaker 2: know Mike, Mike talk shit to every body. Ahold, but dog,
Speaker 2: imagine like your favorite player, the dude you idolize, Like
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Dude, you watch some TV
Speaker 2: and you're like, yo, I'm in the league, Like, what's up,
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan' Like the fuck up?
Speaker 1: I feel that happened to me with Kobe Kobe, Like
Speaker 1: that ain't happened to me with Kobe.
Speaker 8: Bro.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. I got subbed in number one.
Speaker 1: I watched this whole workout and this everything that I
Speaker 1: was supposed to do, I was.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 1: I got subbed in. I needed to get to stop,
Speaker 1: and I got to stop. On the game winning shot,
Speaker 1: I got to stop. He missed the fade away. I
Speaker 1: was like, hell, yeah, I ain't had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with you, young fella.
Speaker 4: I just.
Speaker 3: Man, I have something to do with me.
Speaker 8: That's sick.
Speaker 1: Trust me, I get it, so I know I know
Speaker 1: exactly how that feel.
Speaker 8: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, since we've been talking about the Mala Hans and
Speaker 2: the goats. Shout out to MJ, shout out to Lebron.
Speaker 2: Were looking at ESPN twenty five hundred twenty five lists.
Speaker 2: I really hate putting numbers next to people, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? But you always you know you got
Speaker 2: a rank, you got Wemby at one, top five winby
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards, Paolo Franz, Wagner, Chat Holmgren, and then after
Speaker 2: that Tyres Halliburn and mac See.
Speaker 4: Evan Moby, Jalen Williams and uh.
Speaker 2: Sagoon that's the top ten out of the top ten
Speaker 2: and Scottie Barnes, Lamellow k cutting am Zion Brandon Miller
Speaker 2: ahead of Zion Uh Garland, Yeah, Darius Garland. I mean,
Speaker 2: obviously the orders broll, but a lot of times, you know,
Speaker 2: people are just judging off talent and not off of
Speaker 2: what the actual work.
Speaker 3: They put in, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: One, I hate these lists, Yeah, I hate. I hate
Speaker 1: these lists with a passion because, Okay, so Dyson Daniels
Speaker 1: is happening a.
Speaker 2: Pretty good season, a really good season. Just two months ago,
Speaker 2: no one believes in Dyson Dames. Now he's twenty three
Speaker 2: on the list. No Cam Thomas, that's a notable.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, that's a notable one.
Speaker 1: That's what justifies Tyre's Halliburton being in front of Jaylen Williams. Because,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I think Tyre's Halliburton is very
Speaker 1: good player.
Speaker 3: I think Tyre's he's obviously an all star.
Speaker 1: I think Tyre's Halliburton, you know, Olympic gold medalist, Tyre's Halliburton.
Speaker 3: Doing it, he putting it together.
Speaker 4: Why isn't he right?
Speaker 3: But when I look at he is higher than Jayla Wis.
Speaker 2: But when I when you say ESPN twenty five hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty five, I think Jaylen Williams has more upstart.
Speaker 3: Jaylen Williams at six ' nine, can pass.
Speaker 2: The ball, can shoot the ball, can get to the
Speaker 2: cup two weeks ago, play center for two weeks.
Speaker 3: And then switches to point guard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And when I look at stuff like this, I'm
Speaker 1: just like, but who validates that? Because yes, Tyrese has
Speaker 1: done more right. But Jalen Williams, I think the upside
Speaker 1: is way. I think the upside of Jalen Williams is,
Speaker 1: by the way, not just Tyr's Halliburn.
Speaker 3: I think the outside of Jaalen Williams is higher than
Speaker 3: a lot of.
Speaker 4: People on this a lot of people on the list.
Speaker 3: It ain't just Syru's Haliburn.
Speaker 2: Like, think about Tyree's Halliburn, All Star, for sure, Olympic
Speaker 2: gold medalist, and he's for sure he's seven. So if
Speaker 2: based on accomplishments, if I'm off that, yeah, if I'm Tyree,
Speaker 2: so I'm like, yo, this makes no sense.
Speaker 3: Why am I seven?
Speaker 2: If you look at my resume versus everybody else under
Speaker 2: twenty five? I got the resume, Wemby, Anthony Edwards, Polo,
Speaker 2: I can. I can get with them, But I am
Speaker 2: also upset that how is LaMelo Ball, who's also an
Speaker 2: All Star? He should be number two? If if they say, okay,
Speaker 2: Wemby is you know he he has the next opportunity
Speaker 2: to be the most phenomenal LaMelo Ball.
Speaker 3: You know I'm.
Speaker 2: Biased, bro, but nobody is fucking with LaMelo Ball.
Speaker 4: You hear.
Speaker 3: Man there stuff, you know what I mean? And then
Speaker 3: when LaMelo came, man, LaMelo Ball, I know you go.
Speaker 3: I love mellow game, but don't get don't get off.
Speaker 1: Don't get this list, bro, Like it's just not justified
Speaker 1: by anything. Okay, So if we're gonna say resume right
Speaker 1: with Tyree's, which again I'm a big tyres.
Speaker 3: Fan, so I'm not taking anything from Tyree. I don't
Speaker 3: want it to come off that way.
Speaker 2: But if you're taking resume into account, Darius Garland's also
Speaker 2: in All Star also also on All s, you can't
Speaker 2: necessarily be taken in like the resumes into account because there's.
Speaker 1: None All Stars higher than All Stars. So I just
Speaker 1: I hate these lists because.
Speaker 4: There is no basis for it.
Speaker 3: Right, then, what.
Speaker 4: Is the criterion?
Speaker 2: Shout out to the iceman George German and I asked
Speaker 2: him about Hall of famers every All Star weekend, and
Speaker 2: you know what his response is, what is the criteria?
Speaker 2: So we have to start having some type of criteria
Speaker 2: or else. You know, this list don't make no goddamn
Speaker 2: sense at all.
Speaker 3: It just don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, James Johnson having a hell of the year
Speaker 2: but he won behind Zion like Zion is Zion is
Speaker 2: Zion bro?
Speaker 4: Like what are you guys talking about? Like what is
Speaker 4: it based on?
Speaker 1: And then this list, let's come from ESPN. Right, here's
Speaker 1: where it gets to contradictory for me, This list comes
Speaker 1: from ESPN. They say Zion's the sixteenth best twenty five
Speaker 1: under twenty five. And I just watched on ESPN last
Speaker 1: week Tim McMahon say Zions should be cut. He said
Speaker 1: the contract Zion's.
Speaker 2: Contract, Hey bro is shrawing up so that he is cutable.
Speaker 3: He could be released.
Speaker 2: And then on them, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: But aside from everybody else in the league, won them
Speaker 1: the very publication that just has someone from their poor
Speaker 1: group of people that cover the sport just had someone
Speaker 1: up there that said this man should be cut. That
Speaker 1: same publication then puts him as the sixteenth best twenty
Speaker 1: five hundred and twenty five.
Speaker 3: What is the validate? Like, I hate these lists.
Speaker 2: They are so stupid that it's just like you're just
Speaker 2: picking names out of a hast or are you just
Speaker 2: asking people around the office, like who are your favorite player?
Speaker 2: It's almost like who are your favorite players? That's what
Speaker 2: it looks like, who are you? Who are your favorite players?
Speaker 2: Rank your favorite players one through twenty five? But like
Speaker 2: you know not and not to throw no jabs at ESPN,
Speaker 2: but god damn man, they.
Speaker 3: For a long time.
Speaker 2: But as as you get you know, as we get
Speaker 2: more into this next gen, this new generation. We gotta
Speaker 2: have some validations, metrics or you know, they have to
Speaker 2: reveal who are the people deciding on this funk?
Speaker 3: What is good for? Debate though?
Speaker 2: Because their way off, their way off, their way off.
Speaker 2: We ain't gonna argue with your ESPN. We're just gonna
Speaker 2: argue about the list. How about that? And La Mellow
Speaker 2: Ball is twelve? No, Melo Ball is the swag. He
Speaker 2: is the swag. He is he is who on there
Speaker 2: got the gout? Who got game swag? Would be okay,
Speaker 2: who on there got game?
Speaker 3: Slag?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 4: Man not like LaMelo.
Speaker 3: And Man? Different?
Speaker 2: Come on now, man, Man, I love different, It's different.
Speaker 2: But I think ad Man going in the wrong direction.
Speaker 3: Bro, You think explain that.
Speaker 2: He's not making Minnesota so exciting to watch. He don't
Speaker 2: drive to the hole enough. We still love him because
Speaker 2: he's talented.
Speaker 3: But you don't think he's taking the next step.
Speaker 4: No, I think he's taking steps and like he improving
Speaker 4: his game.
Speaker 2: He ain't took the lead. M He don't need to
Speaker 2: be taking no goddamn steps. He needs to go jump
Speaker 2: out there, do more. I just want him. I just
Speaker 2: want to see him do more right because when I
Speaker 2: go watch Minnesota, it's like, yeah, he balling right, but
Speaker 2: you're not the like you gotta be the reason why
Speaker 2: you win every game. Yeah, you gotta be the reason
Speaker 2: why every game is won. It's gotta be fear when
Speaker 2: a man walk in the building, and it's gotta be
Speaker 2: a mistaque like, oh, he gonna dunk on somebody. We
Speaker 2: gonna see some ship or we're gonna see this like
Speaker 2: incredible performance.
Speaker 4: How old is John Moran?
Speaker 3: By the way, John Morent is now over twenty five.
Speaker 3: John Moran got that ship? You knowee what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: Under twenty five? So okay, I think John could be
Speaker 3: twenty five.
Speaker 4: But he probably turned the cities.
Speaker 1: But I would have loved to see where they would
Speaker 1: have put y'all on this list. I would have loved
Speaker 1: to see that.
Speaker 3: I think. I'm actually yeah, I think they should have
Speaker 3: had twenty five year olds still on the list. But
Speaker 3: I get I just too.
Speaker 4: I want to see make that next step. You know who?
Speaker 3: I do like?
Speaker 4: Uh Franz Wagner. Fred Wagner is a problem.
Speaker 2: Hey dog, he is a problem. I ain't see nobody
Speaker 2: be He's a mismatch problem. He's the ultimate mismatch. I
Speaker 2: was watching him work. Boy, that boy works, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. He worked, he worked, He's and he
Speaker 2: can score. He's a season scorer. He's gonna be one
Speaker 2: of those dudes who wind up with fifteen twelve, fifteen
Speaker 2: thousand points, twenty thousand points. He just know how to
Speaker 2: find find a good bucket, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: He knows how to find himself a good bucket. Shout
Speaker 2: out to him obviously, Bawling Johnson. I like, I know
Speaker 2: Jalen Williams, but the Cam Thomas stuff, man, I think
Speaker 2: Cam Thomas should have been on this list.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, get at me, Get
Speaker 1: at me fans. We always want to hear from you,
Speaker 1: b d and I would answer your questions every week,
Speaker 1: so make sure you submit them on social.
Speaker 3: And may make it on the pod.
Speaker 2: At Davis Underscore Joshua Dramond, Now that you've been in
Speaker 2: the league for thirteen seasons, is there another player in
Speaker 2: the league that you see similar to yourself?
Speaker 1: Is there another player in the league I see similar
Speaker 1: to myself. I see guys that have some of what
Speaker 1: I do, but I don't see guys that have all
Speaker 1: of what I do. But honest, you know, I see
Speaker 1: guys that's like, oh, man, he got it defensively, but
Speaker 1: maybe not necessarily the playmaking, you know. Or he got
Speaker 1: the playmaking but can't necessarily check you know, or like
Speaker 1: So I've seen guys that I'm like, Man, I like
Speaker 1: this guy.
Speaker 3: He do X, Y and Z.
Speaker 1: But I don't quite think I've seen anyone that do
Speaker 1: all of what I do. Just my opinion, grant well
Speaker 1: me think otherwise.
Speaker 3: Uh, that's just that's so disrespectful. I'm not sure what
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 1: That's God, that's disrespectful.
Speaker 3: Man, that's crazy.
Speaker 9: I mean, wow, sing recovery from his injury.
Speaker 2: But they look up to you, bro, and I appreciate
Speaker 2: the gain. He's not similar to you, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. But it's a lot of these guys who like, Man,
Speaker 2: I could be a Draymond Green.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I love that guys think
Speaker 3: that I think that you're one of one, You're one
Speaker 3: of one.
Speaker 1: Common mistake they make those ifs if you if you're
Speaker 1: trying to pattern yourself to be Draymond Green. The common
Speaker 1: mistake that people makes is when I came into the league,
Speaker 1: I was a score.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So you can't just like raise a kid.
Speaker 1: From the age of twelve and I want you to
Speaker 1: be just like Draymond Green, because then once you end
Speaker 1: up complimenting, you end up not allowed.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a compliment for sure, and I take that compliment.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, sometimes this is something that I've
Speaker 1: come across. I see parents telling their kid, like, yo,
Speaker 1: I want you like you should watch film and Draymond
Speaker 1: and try to be just like Draymond. And I never
Speaker 1: talk about this, but I always kind of want to
Speaker 1: throw it out there, which is, but don't teach that
Speaker 1: kid not to score, because that's a role that I
Speaker 1: had to take on at.
Speaker 2: This level in order to be successful in the situation
Speaker 2: that evolved into that. Absolutely you involved, Like, bro, I
Speaker 2: gotta tell you, you're a one of one, right, so
Speaker 2: when you're a one to one, your mode.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 4: So there'll never be another Draymond Green. Ever, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: It'll never be always be somebody be like Damn, I
Speaker 2: really fuck with him, or Damn I really like how
Speaker 2: he get Damn. There's always gonna be something that reminds
Speaker 2: you of the ones you really gravitate to and like.
Speaker 2: But they're never gonna be you because you're a mode.
Speaker 3: You do what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And so when you are one of one, like you're
Speaker 2: one of one mode, everything that comes after you is
Speaker 2: looking at you and saying like, oh, this is out
Speaker 2: my path to do this, this is how I can
Speaker 2: do it. They're and and shout out to them for
Speaker 2: choosing you as a mode, right, because they're never gonna
Speaker 2: be you. And so the greatest way right for you
Speaker 2: not to be Magic Johnson right, or me not to
Speaker 2: be Magic Johnson, was to try my best to follow
Speaker 2: somebody who's a one on one so I can create
Speaker 2: my own.
Speaker 3: Thing, you know what i mean. And so just giving
Speaker 3: me a flowers, bro, I appreciate that, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: All these young dudes is looking at They're looking at
Speaker 2: Jamond Green as a mole. Yes, that's true, one of
Speaker 2: one piece of art. That's like, how the fuck.
Speaker 3: This way?
Speaker 1: And and and like I said, I see guys around
Speaker 1: the league like with some of the stuff that I do,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm like, wow, you know, I really
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: You know that that guy is taking that on, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But you'll start recognizing it more you'll start recognizing it
Speaker 2: more now, right, you'll start recognizing I think like as
Speaker 2: you get older, like you'll start seeing it in dudes
Speaker 2: and even dudes on the other team. You're gonna start
Speaker 2: giving them little Okay, I see this dude probably studied me,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And like he would like
Speaker 2: when you got into it with the kids in Washington,
Speaker 2: Oh man, that was you gotta think you a mole, bro,
Speaker 2: And them kids is like, they're like, man, I can't
Speaker 2: wait till you get to the league. I wish that
Speaker 2: fool would say something to me.
Speaker 3: Like you and like you.
Speaker 4: How many people tell you, Bro, I'm cut just like you.
Speaker 3: All the time.
Speaker 1: As soon as he came to the league, he like,
Speaker 1: dre cut like you.
Speaker 3: Bro, you're a mom. Your mom.
Speaker 4: That's I mean, that's it. That's the show. It will
Speaker 4: be a Hall of Famer legend. And you have you
Speaker 4: have Now somebody's gonna create their own custom shoe off
Speaker 4: your mom.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Brother. Hey man, I got one question
Speaker 3: for Bed before we get out of here, and it
Speaker 3: comes from Sonny. I'm just gonna spell this.
Speaker 1: Y'all not gonna make a fool out of me at
Speaker 1: su n N I q U A d E r
Speaker 1: I N four seven one.
Speaker 2: Seven Sonny kual Aaron is what it looked like? It
Speaker 2: says to me, I don't know, Sonny quadrant. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: Sonny quadrant for seven seventeen. Baron, what play do you
Speaker 2: feel was the most iconic of your career? I'm gonna
Speaker 2: answer that question for you.
Speaker 1: It's the Baron Davis dunk on Andre Carolinko.
Speaker 3: But can you give me a play that embodies you?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: And again this is Sonny quadrants question. A play that
Speaker 1: fully embodies you as a player, who you are or
Speaker 1: who you were as player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely don't think it was the Carolinko dunk
Speaker 2: that just fully embodied I think it embodied my energy.
Speaker 2: There's a play that I made in my like my
Speaker 2: first playoffs that I was like the man. I had
Speaker 2: a triple double against Orlando and there was a play
Speaker 2: that I made or I caught the dribble, put it
Speaker 2: behind my back, spun twice, spun again, shot a bank shot,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And it was like I
Speaker 2: never really get credit or like the handles or the
Speaker 2: moves or the passes and so like something like that.
Speaker 2: I would probably say, like embody my game more like
Speaker 2: people just like I used to dunk because I used
Speaker 2: to want to make it on ESPN, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. You have to like figure out a way
Speaker 2: to get a highlight and you know, making passes and
Speaker 2: shaking people one really the thing, but that that would
Speaker 2: be you know, it was against t Mac. I hit
Speaker 2: him with the spin, another spin, little scissor kick bank shot.
Speaker 4: That was just like okay, bat he got some pearls
Speaker 4: by it.
Speaker 2: Most definitely did you cross the Carolinka was like the
Speaker 2: one that was like like that was that gave me
Speaker 2: the name?
Speaker 1: That was crazy. I've seen that play a million times.
Speaker 1: Being that I'm a dug, Yeah, I've seen that play
Speaker 1: a million times.
Speaker 3: But that is a rap.
Speaker 1: And this episode of The Draymond Green Show within My
Speaker 1: Dog b D the o G. We all y'all keep
Speaker 1: tuning in. We appreciate y'all the.
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