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Speaker 1: Sound On with Levin Shirley on Bloomberg Radio. Complete inauguration preview.

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Speaker 1: This as President Trump gives departing words. What will Biden

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Speaker 1: when you've clearly got a divide into America' clearly got

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Speaker 1: Catch up with you soon. He's a Republican representing Kentucky's

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Speaker 1: I'm Kevin CEREALI this is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg Sound

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Speaker 1: On with Kevin Surreley on Bloomberg Radio. My name is

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Speaker 1: Kevin Cereli. I'm the chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television

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Speaker 1: and for Bloomberg Radio. Just moments ago, President elect Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. That is setting the tone for tomorrow's

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Speaker 1: inauguration coverage, which will begin at eleven am Eastern time.

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Speaker 1: inauguration coverage JHN Bloomberg Radio as well as Bloomberg Television.

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Speaker 1: Our David Weston is going to be leading the team

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Speaker 1: coverage on that front. Here with me now Bloomberg Politics

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Speaker 1: Barbara Boxer. Drew, you know, we were talking about McConnell earlier,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there you have it right there, Drew. That's

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Speaker 1: Kevin strikes me right now, is that at this point

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Speaker 1: that's a key difference amongst Republicans and Democrats. Oh, it's

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Speaker 1: And those those issues aren't waiting for that, all right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Rick, just the history of this moment, the

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Speaker 1: And now the Bidens are at Blairhouse. Kevin, I thought

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Speaker 1: the Senate, people who behave graciously, on all kinds of circumstances,

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Speaker 1: But Sautmsel is having a higher mission than being vindicated

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Speaker 1: What what is? I asked this question to uh, to

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Speaker 1: What's the prize coffee? I mean, who knows? Um? All right,

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Speaker 1: but is there a reminder tomorrow for what unites us?

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Speaker 1: I think the images of Leader Mitch McConnell going to

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Speaker 1: refreshing moment for for many people who have covered worked

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Speaker 1: not just the ideology is headed in, but the leadership,

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Speaker 1: the tone. Politics has to be about something more, Yes,

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Speaker 1: more than policy. Thanks to Drew Lehman, Thanks to Rick Davis,

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