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Speaker 3: It's time to be Oh yeah, this year right here

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Speaker 3: is too cheesy. Welcome on in the Morning Combat Halloween addition, Biach,

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Speaker 3: you're looking at the master, the one right next to

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Speaker 3: me from DC his satanic pumpkins Majesty's request. Anton Thomas

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Speaker 1: Hi, yo, I this is this is truly stupid, this

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Speaker 3: I'd be hot since the beginning. In fact, I grew

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, if you know what looks like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Welcome one in October thirty first,

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Speaker 3: let's get hired up. It's Garcia ONAMA Fight Week and

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Speaker 3: Rod de Rousey was on Burnt Chrysler's podcast. So hey,

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Speaker 3: this is Morning Combat. Let's get come fly with us. LT.

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Speaker 3: How is it down there? Did you go out for

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Speaker 3: Mischief Night and throw some TV around or what.

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Speaker 1: No, I took took you to like a like a

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Speaker 3: I don't think you you threw around the TP last

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was. It was an epic as

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Speaker 3: You know, I hear you, I hear you. Yeah. Great movie,

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Speaker 3: Ben Her. Do you ever see Ben Hemstarr and Bruce Jenner.

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Speaker 1: I look forward to us being fired for cause today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, how are you hey? It's morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in. You could probably like the show. It would

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Speaker 3: probably go a long way. Subscribe shout out to the YouTubers,

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Speaker 3: the Afkings, Network watchers, and you divorced Dad's grocery shopping

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Speaker 3: listening to audio only. This is the show. This is

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Speaker 3: because we be jamming, we'd be real up in this beach.

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Speaker 3: H this is gonna be a show today. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: also play a little bit of chastois with LT if

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. All Right, okay, two guys,

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Speaker 3: and then close with your fan segments, your your dead wrongs,

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Speaker 1: Have you eaten the Rby's steak nuggets yet?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure, serving a certain US soccer team goalies leaked nudes.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, that joke still get

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Speaker 3: The crown is yiggoty yours. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Honestly it's not mine. But how we doing, boys?

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Speaker 3: Yo, look, you gotta admit this year right here is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope both of you die.

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Speaker 3: Okay, right LT. Most importantly today, if I can bring

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Let me take off these glass I'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: I want to show you. I mean, look at there's

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Speaker 3: You know, people always ask me like, what what do

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Speaker 1: All right, this is my first time using you ever

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Speaker 3: Okay, so she's like super excited. Will you inspect all

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Speaker 3: of her chocolate for pinholes?

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Speaker 1: Luke, pinholes all inspected by swallowing it.

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Speaker 1: Like Reggie's back, yo, yo, How long before we got

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Speaker 3: Wow, one of our darker episodes to begin. But it's

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Speaker 3: in the warehouse down in Vegas. It's APEX time. It's

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Speaker 3: Is this the worst APEX Fight Night card we have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fourteen knockouts in eighteen career wins for Garcia, seven

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Speaker 3: from them again. So big opportunity here for either man.

435
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit more about David Onama as

436
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 3: he comes in fourteen and two record on a four

437
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 3: fight win streak as I met six of seven overall,

438
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 3: eleven stoppages and fourteen wins, six in the first round,

439
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 3: and Luke he comes here by way of a victory

440
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 3: over Giga Chikazi. Uh do you believe that he's done

441
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 3: enough to really make this feel like a fifty to

442
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 3: fifty action fight had an into Saturday.

443
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I absolutely think so.

444
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 2: Dude.

445
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 1: Onama is a fun fighter. Now he's a little bit

446
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 1: more blood and guts than well, it's okay in certain ways,

447
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 1: can be a little bit more blood and guts because

448
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: of the way which he fights. But like dude, think

449
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 1: about they're both south paws, They're both kind of rangy, right,

450
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: they both like to pressure forward. They both will fight

451
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: in either box kickboxing range, and that's where some of

452
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: the differences begin to emerge. But you know, they kind

453
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: of like to forward press the action. Now, Onama seems

454
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: to me a guy this is in this will I

455
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: think will be one of the interesting tensions b see.

456
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: Onama to me likes to press forward, but is a

457
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: little bit more selective and takes time to stakes a

458
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: little bit more time to set things up, whereas Garcia

459
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: has got a lot of combination work. So for example,

460
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,479
Speaker 1: he's really good about that left high kick then when

461
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: he comes down throwing that left hand and then the

462
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: right hook behind it like he's just he's just applying

463
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: it all the time, and Onama seems like he's a

464
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: little bit more thoughtful about it, although his activity rate

465
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: is also pretty high too. But that can encompass a

466
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: lot of things, like you know, like sort of checking

467
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: leg kicks. What I'm trying to make is, I think

468
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: that's gonna be one of the central tensions is who

469
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: gets the other one to back up? Who's the one

470
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,959
Speaker 1: leading with volume, who's the one, you know and not

471
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: just pressuring in a general sense, but the other person

472
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: can't get their rhythm going because they're being pressured out

473
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Speaker 1: of it. The interesting part to me is to what

474
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: extent Onnama might go for takedowns. And Garcia has got

475
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,479
Speaker 1: prety good takedown defence, not not not the best I've

476
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: ever seen, but good, and the decent ability to get up.

477
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Speaker 1: This is gonna be This is gonna be a really

478
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is these two guys do a lot

479
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: of the same things. They have a similar ish kind

480
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: of frame and a kind of a sort of the

481
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: basic conditions under which they thrive are all pretty similar.

482
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Speaker 1: So how does somebody win that? Well, one of them

483
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: has to take that away from the other one. And

484
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: how they do that given that they are seemingly so

485
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: closely matched that actually mixed for is what we're talking

486
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 1: about earlier. Kind of an interesting tension.

487
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I actually, to be honest with you,

488
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 3: with Anti Delizia's and we'll talk about him in a

489
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 3: second recent rise the connection to aspinall, I was wondering

490
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: if that should have been the main event, But there

491
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 3: is a little bit more at stake, at least in

492
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 3: the short term future, and this one considering both of

493
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 3: these guys are ranked in the top fifteen and both

494
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 3: are looking to make that leap, not just into the

495
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 3: top ten, but to legitimately become a name here. So

496
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 3: we've got David Onama talking about what's at stake and

497
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 3: what's on the line for him as he climbs the rankings.

498
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be on a fee for me.

499
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Speaker 7: I don't know what he's gonna plany is, but yeah,

500
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Speaker 7: I think most of the time it'll be be standing,

501
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 7: be standing, and yeah, yeah it went over Steve Garcia.

502
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 7: Will put me in a top ten division for sure.

503
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Speaker 7: You know, get in a win over him with I

504
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 7: would definitely climb me up, you know, especially for a

505
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 7: main event. I guess a tough a punt it, you know,

506
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 7: it'll definitely put me in the top top ten.

507
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 3: Interesting stuff, Hey, Long Island. Luke is a huge fan

508
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: of the risers on the prelimbs because he's doing bong

509
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 3: rips on his podcast live during those fights to tell

510
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: you about it. To see these two graduate to this

511
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 3: point must be, must be good to see and hopefully

512
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 3: want will break through in a big way. Where do

513
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 3: we look at this from an odd standpoint with DraftKings

514
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: and how do you like this fight?

515
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 4: I mean, right now, Steve Garcia is minus one twenty

516
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 4: five David Oama plus one oh five, So I feel

517
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 4: like whatever way you're leaning, you got good value on

518
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 4: either side. Personally, I want to stay away from the

519
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 4: money line completely. I took the over one and a

520
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 4: half in a parlay. This is one of those fights where,

521
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 4: like Steve Garcia, especially, most of his fights end by knockout.

522
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 4: But I weirdly feel like this is going to go

523
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 4: the distance. So prediction wise, I'm calling Steve Garcia by decision,

524
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 4: which is kind of a wild take. But over one

525
00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 4: and a half is my official place guard.

526
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: I see it just knocks at the door more, you

527
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean, He's just constantly asking for an

528
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: opportunity to use offense, and it's like a Jehovah's witness, right,

529
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like the Mormons are nice people,

530
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: but they knock on the doors a lot. You know,

531
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: they got they got a story to tell. But this

532
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: is what I'm being serious like that. It's just, dude,

533
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: it's a numbers game, honestly, and I'm not saying he

534
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: throws an outrageous amount of volume, but he's always looking

535
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: for stuff and that honestly unlocks so many doors people

536
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: don't otherwise get to walk through.

537
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, indeed, Luke, we got Long Island's Luke take on here.

538
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: I do like Garcia by an edge as well, So

539
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 3: I think the odds are spot on. What has to

540
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 3: happen here for Onama here to get this win? I mean,

541
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: does it behoove him to make this a war?

542
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: I think he I think something akin to what he

543
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: got with Giga Chakazi, where he was tearing apart Giga's

544
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: lead leg which made him go south Paul, so then

545
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: that part of that fight was fought that way. But

546
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: really it was three takedowns and he didn't do necessarily

547
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: a ton with them, but it obviously took the wind

548
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: out of the sales of gigas game. And I think

549
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: Steve Garcia competes with a lot of intensity, and he

550
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: maintains that intensity as you saw in the caterabout for example,

551
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: for fairly long periods as a consequence. And so for

552
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: that reason, I just feel like, you know, it's worth

553
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: considering just how important I think pressure is gonna be here,

554
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: but really mixing it up, mixing it up for me.

555
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: For Onama it is gonna be pretty crucial. He gets

556
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: hit too much for a guy that finds ways to

557
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: combine striking offense too easily for that to not be

558
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: a factor. But if he can play that game a

559
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: little bit and then bring in some of the other

560
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: talents to bear, I think that is a winning formula

561
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: for Onama. But can he execute it? We shall see.

562
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna have to find that out on Saturday night.

563
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 3: Let's talk about this cole main event. I do like it.

564
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 3: Waldough Corte is a coast that had a five fight

565
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 3: win streaking was kind of becoming an interesting option here

566
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,479
Speaker 3: at heavyweight. The salsa boy himself, with his ground skills,

567
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: with his aggressiveness, he's a little bit awkward as well.

568
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 3: He had that streak snapped of course last fight by

569
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: Sergey Pavlovitch. But he enters a streaking Anti Delesia, former

570
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 3: PFL tournament champion, who made the incredible UFC debut with

571
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 3: that first round destructive knockout last time out, getting the

572
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: rub of course from training with Tom Aspinall. And we

573
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 3: know the brewing storyline that Uncle Dana really doesn't like

574
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 3: about these two. That of course Anti has eaten at

575
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: Aspinall's table. He's met his family and kids, so Tom

576
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: will not be fighting him no matter what. But at

577
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 3: thirty five walking Trouble from Croatia, Luke, you saw what

578
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: he did to Marchene Taibura last fight, who is a

579
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 3: a well valued gatekeeper in this division. We asked how

580
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 3: high the prospects were of him making a leap? Is

581
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: that him is the guy that we saw. Can he

582
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 3: continue to do that in this division against this level

583
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: of competition?

584
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: Probably a decent chance at it. Yeah, I mean to

585
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: your point, Corteza Costa had a good run up until recently,

586
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: but it was kind of fighting some diggity dulks. I mean,

587
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: the Spivac win was pretty nice, right, I mean the

588
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: other ones, you know, Ryan Span blown up a little

589
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: bit and stuff like that. I don't know what that's

590
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: supposed to mean, but ante Delia. I mean, he fell

591
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: short against Valentine or Valentine Moldovsky, but otherwise it's been

592
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: for the most part, more recently pretty good beating on

593
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: some of the UFC vessel in the way, smoking hending

594
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: for hand inside around, I believe. So I would actually

595
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: say that Delia has speed and ability to cover distance

596
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: and certainly experience that he has relative to a costa

597
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: A cortes A Costa is is pretty good. Cortez A Costa,

598
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what you want to say. I wasn't

599
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: a big believer. And then he ran that wind streak

600
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: into the Spivak win and I was like, well, you know,

601
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: Pavlovich's kind of falling off, and here comes Corteza Costa

602
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: and then he could and get the job done. So

603
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I'm not so sure anymore. I

604
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: don't think that Dahlia is that kind of a puncher

605
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: and that do you think that makes a difference. But

606
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: at heavyweight they're all pretty big punchers, and he's a

607
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: reasonably fast one. Yeah, I would say that is a

608
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: good case to think Delia can get this done here

609
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: and even further.

610
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Dlia likes to bang and not call you back, Luke.

611
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: He doesn't care how old you are. But to talk

612
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: about the heavyweight, Dahlia, I have to agree with what

613
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: you're saying right there. Good run from Waldough, but this

614
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: feels like another setup to find out at thirty five?

615
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 3: Are you that guy that you look like in the

616
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: first fight against Toabura? Quickly Long Island?

617
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: Though?

618
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 3: What are were for odds on this one?

619
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: Sorry?

620
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 4: I was so thrown off by that chryst Delia joke.

621
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: I was just laughing so hard.

622
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: Oh God, is that what you made? I didn't understand

623
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: what you were saying. Did you make a crystal?

624
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 4: He said he'll bang them no matter what the age

625
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 4: is or something. Dalia minus won thirty cortez a Costa

626
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 4: plus one to ten.

627
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean that's almost closer than I think it

628
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: should be. Wow, Sorry, that was too cheesy. Okay, that's

629
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: who you gotta, that's who you can send your your

630
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: letters to a morning combat.

631
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: I honestly, you go in one ear and out the other.

632
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't listening to a fucking word you were saying.

633
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: That.

634
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that normally shows through and as the show progresses,

635
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: just so you know. But uh, but Luke seriously here,

636
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 3: I like Waldough, but I feel like if Anti really

637
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 3: is knocking on that door potentially in a in a

638
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: shallow division of maybe becoming a thing at heavyweight, right,

639
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: Pavlovich is kind of still a thing. Volkov blades lingering.

640
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: We need more things in this division at this moment.

641
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: Whether it's Walter Walker, if he ever turns out to

642
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: be real, or he's just sniffing feet, we'll find that

643
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: out too. But Luke does does coat has a course

644
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: on your a coast on your eyes. Have the game

645
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: that can expose what what the anti de Leo Deligia

646
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: however you want to say it? Uh doesn't do well?

647
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 4: Is this?

648
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: Is he a potential kryptonite and that's why you're seeing

649
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 3: him as just slight underdog?

650
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah? Or I think people maybe wonder did he

651
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: hit his ceiling? You know with the Pavlovich fights, like,

652
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: oh right, this this streak was not fools gold but

653
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: the buck stops here kind of situation and Delia obviously

654
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: having done so well in PFL and coming over here

655
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: and he's still getting a bit of a I'm not

656
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: sure what it means right now, but getting a bit

657
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: of an aspenall rub that sort of a thing. I

658
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: think all of those factors are kind of working together,

659
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: so to speak, to to put the odds where they are.

660
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: But it's you know, listen, I think it's also foolish

661
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: to count out Cortez a Coast to BC. I mean,

662
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean, really suggesting that Dalia is so much better

663
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: that he's just gonna go in there and just lay

664
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: down on this guy, like he's got a Cortes the

665
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: Coast has a good chin, he's a little heavy, but

666
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: pretty athletic reasonably speaking, anyway, he doesn't he can take

667
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: big punches, but he's for the most part halfway decent

668
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: about getting out of the way of them. Like, this

669
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: is a very good chance this one goes the distance

670
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: because Cortes a Coast can slow it down, where Delia

671
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: could overcommit with some of these blitzes. Like, I think

672
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: it's a very very competitive fight. I just feel like

673
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: you're asking me, does Delia have what it takes to

674
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: beat a guy this caliber? The answers I think so.

675
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, competitive, I mean he's proven that. And by

676
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: the way, long Islan Luc reminding us that Cotese Coosta

677
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: was the favorite for much of this fight week until

678
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: just recently. But we do know Anti has wins over

679
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: names we know, like Jorgan de Castro, Maurice Green, Mateya Scheffel.

680
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: When he was on that nice run there in PFL,

681
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: Hen and Fajeda, we talked about how he got here,

682
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 3: Dennis Koitz of all that, I think he's of this ILK.

683
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: I'd almost rather, though, to find out how close he

684
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 3: is to being a legit threat. I'd almost rather him

685
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: have trouble treking wall though down and this becomes a

686
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: test of his cardio, test of a lot of things.

687
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: He's proven that at PFL before against names we just mentioned.

688
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: But right here, right now, the lights are brighter. Not everybody, unfortunately,

689
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: I'm talking about Patchi, Mix, Aaron Pico have have made

690
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 3: that transition from the other leagues to this one as

691
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: smoothly despite what our expectations were coming in. But Luke,

692
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: what do you make about the friendship here between Aspinall

693
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 3: and Anti. We've seen it before with DC and Cormier.

694
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: Mara b and Al Joe are our brothers for life.

695
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 3: They live across the street from each other. It's not

696
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 3: overly likely that a Delia will get to that point

697
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 3: or b Aspinall will still be there. We have no

698
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 3: idea what's going to become of this heavyweight division, But

699
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 3: what the hell like if Tom literally gives up the

700
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 3: bell like I'm sorry, I like Auntie Dlia a lot,

701
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 3: but he ain't Kane right.

702
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: Like, yes, that would be madness. That would be madness.

703
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate what they're saying to preserve their relationship and

704
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: maybe this will naturally sort itself out where we don't

705
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: have to worry about this.

706
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 5: Uh.

707
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: For example, it never came to it because of Saint Pierre,

708
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: cost Check and Fitch never really had to fight. There

709
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: was a lot of pressure on them to fight at

710
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: the same time when they were at AKA together. But

711
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: the reality was if if it was ever gonna happen,

712
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: and they were adamant it wouldn't. But if it was

713
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: ever to happen, it would only probably happen if one

714
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: of them had the title and the other one was

715
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: gunning for it, and they never got to that position.

716
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: But here, in the case of Aspinall and Dalia, not

717
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: only do you have a guy that at least for

718
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: now is the champion, but the other guy doesn't seem

719
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 1: that far away to me. You need to make a decision.

720
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: Either you're both. You can do the Cane and DC thing,

721
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: which is that where you just go your separate ways

722
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: to separate divisions, and that's what it has to be,

723
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: or you have to fight each other. Because this is

724
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: not Costurek and Fitch where it's not really relevant as

725
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: a concern for now. Anyway, it could be very relevant

726
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: if you lose this. Who cares if aspinall loses whatever,

727
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: if they keep winning, it only leads to one place

728
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: and the idea that people are just going to surrender

729
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: a title out to avoid affecting this relationship. You're in

730
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: this like you can't what a silly thing to do.

731
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: At the highest level of the sport. This is not

732
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: a jiu jitsu tournament where you can just close out

733
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: together and it's a win for the fucking team. Somebody

734
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: has to take it from the other guy, not just

735
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: walk away from it because we're trying to preserve something

736
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: under those circumstances or b see, preserve it. But then

737
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: you guys have to just do other things with your life.

738
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: That that's the other answer.

739
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 3: I mean, I said it was unlikely because both would

740
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 3: have to happen, you know, they would have to both

741
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 3: stay on top. And is it Delia or Delijia? What

742
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 3: the hell long outlook can you find?

743
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: I think it's.

744
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 4: I really I question it too. I think it's Delia Delia.

745
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: Can you what did John Annex say in the last fight?

746
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: That really? That does? That does?

747
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 4: I could pull up this sound file.

748
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: Let me pull it up, all right, thank you so much.

749
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: But at the same time, Luke, I don't know how

750
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: how long John Jones or Poeton are both going to

751
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 3: be in this division. I don't know. You know, if

752
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: the if anyone will develop, it may end up happening.

753
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: If this dude keeps knocking out dudes. Although it's only

754
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 3: been one fight and that was only against the gatekeeper level,

755
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: I know a lot has to happen, but maybe it will.

756
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: If aspinall really is that dude, and once he gets

757
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 3: his vison changed, you know we're going to see a

758
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 3: difference there, Luke, A big time difference.

759
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean the heavyweight division is in tatters

760
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: if this is a thing we're talking about, But yes,

761
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: this is you're right.

762
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, DC. By the way, that ham d abdol wah

763
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: Hobb got cut for fighting.

764
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: After after quitting his job to go full time.

765
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he also we didn't give him credit. He's

766
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: got really nice pecks, Luke.

767
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing though, not about his pecks.

768
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: He he wasn't. I did not think that he showed

769
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: enough well roundedness to merit staying on the roster.

770
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 3: You got.

771
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the thing I'm saying is like, I don't

772
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: know what the UFC's supposed to do, dude, because everybody

773
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: coming up is kind of like a version of this,

774
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: and like that's absolutely not a thing that you can

775
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: sell a division around. So they're cutting people like this

776
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, great, but like where are the

777
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: names of the guys up and coming who are a

778
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: clear antidote to this? And I'm not sure what the

779
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: answer is, you know.

780
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry Luca and Long Island, Luke did point now

781
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 3: that you were correct this whole time. It's Delia, just

782
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 3: like Prince Andrew.

783
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: So sorry, sorry, So I've tried to write it phonetically,

784
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 4: but it's Delia, Delia, Deliah. I have the sound file,

785
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 4: but it's M four A and we'll let me load

786
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 4: it in right here, but thank you.

787
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: Can we hear the other sound file of anti Delhia

788
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 3: talking about the file songs of his teammate Tom Aspinall's

789
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: disastrous soul poke from from Cyril God. What were your

790
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: reactions to how that fight finished.

791
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 5: I think he did a great job with not continuing,

792
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 5: and if more fighters do the same thing, I think

793
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 5: we can prevent the same thing from happening again. Absolutely,

794
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 5: I think more fighters should do the same thing, and

795
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 5: more fighters should be punished for behaving that way. And

796
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 5: I do believe we're going to stop with that. Whatsoever,

797
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 5: I really don't understand. I had thirty three fights and

798
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 5: I never poked somebody in the eye, and I do

799
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 5: believe that the punishment for that should be severe.

800
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 7: Last week, he said that he would never fight you

801
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 7: for the title, that that he would vacate vacate the

802
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 7: title for you. What what was your reaction when he

803
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 7: said that?

804
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 5: But because he's a really, really dear friend of mine,

805
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 5: and I do believe with that statement he really showed

806
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 5: his character. I would also not fight against him to

807
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 5: for the belt.

808
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what's going to happen Aspirnau will keep the

809
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: belt and you won't fight against him. This idea that

810
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: he would give it up, like I.

811
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: Mean, dude, life is too short to live it this way.

812
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: You got to have a better plan than this. This

813
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: is not a good plan.

814
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 3: I sided with Dana getting upset in this case. There

815
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: are you know in this case?

816
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: Now I just feel like, wait, wait and see what

817
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: they do when the time comes, because they'll say anything now,

818
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: partly as a way to just signal allegiance. So it's like, okay, fine,

819
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: let him say what they want to say. Maybe the

820
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: reality is when the bill comes due that they change

821
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: their tune. But as a general rule, if they may

822
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: maintain this with like what kind of insane career sabotage

823
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: self sabotage? This would be like you you you can't

824
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: live this way. If you guys both want to achieve things,

825
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: you have to do them in different places. Like that's

826
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: just where you're at.

827
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, just fight for it. Uh Luke, you

828
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: put in the rundown. The winner of this could be

829
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 3: aligned for a title show. What the hell are you

830
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 3: talking about?

831
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's super crazy. I mean so,

832
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: I mean not in front of Jones and aspinall, like.

833
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: Volkov has it above who whatever happens here play? Volkov

834
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 3: has teammates.

835
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, but I would caution, like I

836
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: maybe not with maybe not with Corteza Costa, but with Deliya.

837
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: None of these guys are like super popular attractions that

838
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: have any kind of real sway, so that changes the argument.

839
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: I guess. I'm just pointing out if they need to

840
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: keep people busy, like they'll call upon winners of fights

841
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: like this, as like, oh if Volkov gets injured and

842
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: they you know, they want to move the titles through

843
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: now again works sort of passed a point where you know,

844
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: the Jones thing has been settled one way or the other.

845
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: He's fighting, he's not at whatever that situation is. But

846
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: like I'm just pointing out, it's it's a like, you know,

847
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: they're team sixty five in the Tournament of sixty four,

848
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: but they're on the bubble of being in a place

849
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: where interesting things can happen very quickly for them. I

850
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 1: guess the way, all right.

851
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick Ante Delia, Delia Delia. There's a three

852
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: round fight, not a five rounder. I think it goes

853
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: the distance too. I think we learn a lot more

854
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 3: about him, and I really think he's fighting on the blades.

855
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 3: Pavlovitch level next fight, which, by the way, is the

856
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 3: last stop before you're in that number one contender level

857
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 3: with where the division is right now, because he sees

858
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: in because he has that PFL experience against names, I'll

859
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 3: agree that he's a lot closer. Waldo, No, but this

860
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 3: guy is a lot closer regardless of where that friendship

861
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 3: situation stands. Luke, what else do you like on this card?

862
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: If anything, there are.

863
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: A couple of gems up. I mean, gems has made

864
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: a strong word, all right, So let's go through here

865
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 1: a little bit and see what we like. Uh Kaitlyn

866
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: Vieiravis's normal dumont is relevant number four versus number five essentially,

867
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: or I think right around that in this division, So

868
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: that's actually an important one. Talita Alan Carr, who is

869
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: a great jiu jitsu practitioner, is back. She's six and

870
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: one at strawwait taking on Arianni Carnelosi. I'm not sure

871
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: if I pronounced the last name right. So you've got

872
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: some interesting fights there. Phil Rowe, the Philly Fresh guy,

873
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: is on this one. He's taken on a Korean dok

874
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: by the name of Seyak Kumko, so there's gonna be

875
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: some interesting ones. So now I'm guessing Long Island Luke,

876
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: that you're partial to the Isaac Dulgarian and yadi Air

877
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: del Avaller fight. Am I Am I wrong about that?

878
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 5: No?

879
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: I was gonna shout out the Phil Rowe suck Young

880
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 4: Co fight. I mean Co's that guy who got the

881
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 4: upset win over Oban Elliott in his UFC debut. Phil

882
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 4: row is just fun as how all of his wins

883
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 4: come by was good.

884
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, Sidric dumazd Moss is on this

885
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: fucking Cayard.

886
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 4: And the guy he's fighting is six and oh with

887
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 4: six first round knockouts, so uh, he might get his

888
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 4: lights put out.

889
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: Pretty What does it take to get released from your

890
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: UFC deal? I honestly don't know the answer.

891
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 4: Sam Alvey went nine straight fights without a win, and

892
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 4: they didn't really.

893
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he also wasn't like accused, true true, very

894
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: very accused of accused of committing allegedly fairly heinous crimes

895
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: during that time, you know what I'm saying.

896
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 4: How about uh, Charles Radkey versus Daniel Franza could be

897
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 4: fun just because they both get finished a lot, and

898
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 4: they both.

899
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: Rad Key's the Radkey's the maga donk.

900
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, I don't agree with you.

901
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: They all are no no, but some are more in

902
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: your face about it. I think I thought I could.

903
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: I remember the Canadians bulling the shit out of him.

904
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 4: Right, he said if I don't remember what kind of slur,

905
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 4: but he definitely set a slur in one of his

906
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 4: post fight interviews.

907
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: Rad Key or not rad Key, I forgot Anyway, two

908
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: things I'm looking at. One monserrat Ruiz Luke brings her

909
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 3: three fight losing skid back to the cage. Remember when

910
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 3: Cheyenne was going to follow that bitch home?

911
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: Yes, you more so than I.

912
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: But okay, and what about in this fight before the

913
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 3: Colemane event, Jeremiah Wells against Theembo Garimbo. Garimbo has been

914
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: making news this week and seemingly pissing everyone off. Wasn't

915
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: he the guy who uh who had his fixed your

916
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: house with the with the rock? He won that show

917
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 3: and then he uh And now he's saying that he

918
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 3: he's he needs to feed his kids, so he's willing

919
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 3: to kill a man in the cage if necessary. He

920
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 3: said that a media day this week.

921
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah he did. He fought a bunch in twenty twenty four.

922
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: He fought one, two, three, four times, losing ultimately to

923
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: Vicente Luke in the first round. This is his first

924
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: fight back. Jeremiah Wells good athlete, powerful, physical athlete. I

925
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: think sometimes gets a little bit over in front of

926
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: his skis with the kind of aggression he likes to

927
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: go for, but certainly a sturdy challenge. This one is

928
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: probably fun. But the Garimbo situation, I'm not he's he's

929
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: at a wee. He said a weird UFC run right

930
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: where the rock was, like here's a house and you're like, oh,

931
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: this is incredible. I feel good story and he did

932
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: do well, but like I feel like some of that

933
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: shine has fizzled along the way.

934
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 4: I would have finished in his last fight and like

935
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 4: under a minute by sent Yeah, I feel like it's

936
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 4: dropped it since then. But he was kind of hyped

937
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 4: up before.

938
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, there's.

939
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 3: A few weird storylines. I mean, if they led uh

940
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 3: Dumas fighting with the lowjack on, I love that Luke,

941
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 3: that's just like some raways.

942
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: They did that at b KFC. Then has had ankle monarchs.

943
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: I think he got to take it the judge had

944
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: him take it off. Okay, but you know, I mean, dude, this.

945
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: Is well that right, there is the sport of Kings.

946
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: Oh my god, bro that right there is topic number

947
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 3: one to look ahead to the weekend before we get

948
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 3: to topic number two. I did want to look back

949
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 3: quickly last night. No assets to share, but Luke, did

950
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: you see the couple second ko from Gable Steveson in

951
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 3: the Dirty Boxing Nashville main event against probably the guy

952
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: who set up the cage, but also your boy John

953
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 3: Jones wearing an ipatch begging Dana for a white house fight.

954
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't care about that part, but the Gable

955
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: Steveson part. I mean. Also, he's got you know, the

956
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: worst past ever as well, apparently all these fighters do today.

957
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: But we're just assessing what he can do in the ring.

958
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: The KO I didn't care about. He fought, you know

959
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: whoever the fuck it doesn't It doesn't mean much. Did

960
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: you see him jump over the fucking ropes?

961
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 3: No? I didn't see that. That sounds awesome Long Island.

962
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: Luke, did you see him do that?

963
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 4: All I saw was the Brian battle finish unseen.

964
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: D We can't. I don't know if there's any way

965
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 1: for you to get a screen shot. I'm talking about

966
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: the ropes of the actual dirty boxing. I don't know

967
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: if it's a I guess it's a ring ring. He

968
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: knocks the guy out and then he kind of turns

969
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: around and celebrates and then just runs, but you know,

970
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: just a few steps and then in one jump jumps

971
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: over the top fucking rope and then lands like a

972
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: fucking panther.

973
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: I was like, I wonder if he could ever be

974
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: that athletic. That's incredible. Luke also on this car Brian

975
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 3: Battle had a wacky fight where he got hurt early,

976
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: rallied back and then landed that one more blow as

977
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 3: his opponent was on his knees looking up at him.

978
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: Do you know his opponent was that dude in the

979
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 3: Daz camp who brawled with milesvied Al's coach at the

980
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 3: at that presser that I was at. He is, Yeah,

981
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 3: the dude with the red hair. I think that's the

982
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: same dude also, And this was one of the more

983
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: feel good wins that I've seen a long time. To

984
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 3: a great guy, former belator, MMA upset star Big Tuna

985
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 3: Big Ten Parrish, who has bounced around in recent years,

986
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: had some ups, had some downs. Dude. He looked real

987
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 3: good last night on Dirty Boxing. Got a first round. Ko.

988
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: I'm talking about like Big Tuna two point zero, the

989
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: era begins, you know.

990
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're big fans of Big Tuna. Happy to hear that.

991
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: He's always had good hands. He's always been a guy

992
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: who put him on you if you if you stand

993
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: around long enough. So to Ben Parrish, I'm glad to

994
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: hear you got the win.

995
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, great, great workout there, big too, and also good stuff,

996
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: also real quick. MICHAELA. Mayer moved up to one fifty

997
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 3: four last night for top rank and want. He won

998
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 3: the Unified Championship, her third weight title she started at

999
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 3: She won a title one thirty one, now one fifty

1000
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: four at thirty five and on top of her game.

1001
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: You got to give her credit for that. Who it

1002
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: was on the top ranked classics like two BE or

1003
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: Fast Networks Channel, I've seen not I didn't see.

1004
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: The highlight, my timeline nothing, look at I could get

1005
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: bro look at this ship. What the fuck he just

1006
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: goes right over it.

1007
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 3: I was like, that's sick.

1008
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: That is insane, that's insane.

1009
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to topic number two. Uh, these

1010
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 3: are real, credible reports from credible reporters and not just

1011
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 3: another wacky carnival announcement. Possibly here those reports surfacing saying

1012
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 3: that Netflix is interested in a rematch the biggest boxing

1013
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 3: matchup financially of all time, the twenty fifteen megafight between

1014
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: Floyd Mayweather and Many Pakiao, to the point that there's

1015
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 3: even talk that it could be at the Sphere in

1016
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 3: Las Vegas. So Netflix loves the carnival stuff right now,

1017
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 3: Luke the bigger picture, because I haven't heard a damn

1018
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 3: person yet say they would be all for this, because obviously,

1019
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: what is Floyd forty eight, Manny forty or just turning

1020
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: forty seven shortly? And it would be a real fight,

1021
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 3: by the way, But what does this say about the

1022
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 3: state of boxing in general? I mean, we're coming up

1023
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 3: on a Jake Tank fight that not a damn person

1024
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 3: wants or cares about. In the very disturbing news of

1025
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 3: yet another domestic violence based lawsuit filed against Gravonte Davis

1026
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 3: only makes that worse. It's Carnival season here boxing feels

1027
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 3: like it's in the toilet until we see what Turkey

1028
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 3: and TKO have next year. But what does it say

1029
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 3: about Boxing that Netflix would want this over Benavita is

1030
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 3: better beef?

1031
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, dude, this is I'm starting,

1032
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm starting to get some kind of like fair all right,

1033
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: maybe this is doom and gloom. I wouldn't be the

1034
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: first time I had a doom and gloom prediction BC right,

1035
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the first, probably won't be the last. So

1036
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: but all means take this with a grain of salt.

1037
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you what I'm I'm not even

1038
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: saying this is what I fully agree with, but what's

1039
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: swirling around my head, which is, Dude, I cannot I

1040
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: just cannot get out of my head the parallels that

1041
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: I think might be there to late nineties, early two

1042
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: thousands Japanese Mma. And of course there's me very very many,

1043
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: you know, many different circumstances between the two, like a

1044
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: ton there's a lot of things that don't overlap about them.

1045
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: But the point I'm trying to make is I thought

1046
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 1: that Boxing could tolerate the kind of Jake Paul thing

1047
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 1: as a sideshow. And I'm not even trying to be demeaning.

1048
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say is is like the relevant

1049
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: side of the sport and people who you know, the

1050
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: most people will care about this. And if there's this

1051
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: kind of extra audience that has some boxing fans but

1052
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: some that are not that are interested in this kind

1053
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: of you know again, what do you want to call it,

1054
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: YouTube boxer side of things, whatever, then that's fine and

1055
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: they don't need to really compete. They don't really compete.

1056
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 1: They don't really They're just kind of serving somewhat overlapping

1057
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: but ultimately pretty different audiences. And now I'm not sure

1058
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: I believe that anymore. Now I think that it might be.

1059
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: It's not like what Jake is doing is like he's

1060
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: ruining boxing. He is a symptom of a diseased kind

1061
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: of sport, Like his ascension shouldn't be possible in an

1062
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: otherwise healthy system. When I say ascension, I don't mean

1063
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: just having some kind of role dude like he's got.

1064
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: I mean he fucking fought in front of one hundred

1065
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: million people with Mike Tyson in on on Netflix, like

1066
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: like like I'm not even doing a bit. Boxing just

1067
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: basically doesn't get much bigger than that in terms of

1068
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: audience size. I mean that was a huge, huge fight.

1069
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: I mean the answers look like, you know, Maybether pakiel

1070
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: One was bigger. You know what I'm saying, BC. But

1071
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: the point I'm trying to say is it feels like

1072
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: there are no stars in boxing, particularly American boxing, and

1073
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: what the people who want big events are being forced

1074
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: to do is play the hits. They're having versus battles

1075
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: between No Limit and who's the other one from New

1076
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: Orleans Cash Money Records, Right, I mean, it just feels

1077
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 1: like you're just playing the old hits again because nobody

1078
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: is making anything new that matters.

1079
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 3: Taking the running man, Luke, that's all people do these days.

1080
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: You know, Well, don't you feel like that that is

1081
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: It's not just like it's the problem is what does

1082
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: that say about the sport? Yes, dude, twenty fifteen's Mayweather

1083
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: pakiel One was late. There was consternation in twenty fifteen BC.

1084
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: You were there, I was there. You remember this. People

1085
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: were like, if this fight's happening a little late, it's

1086
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: happening a little late. And then Pacio's shoulders fucked up.

1087
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: The fight was a bit of a dud, and people

1088
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: were like they were thirty.

1089
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: Eight thirty six age wise in the first fight, despite

1090
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 3: the fact that they were still one and two pound

1091
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 3: for pound. But yeah, I mean five and a half

1092
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 3: six years is probably aggressive a legit four years to it.

1093
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, So my point I'm trying to make is now

1094
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: we're ten years, about to be eleven years after that,

1095
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: and they're asking to bring that back. Do We were

1096
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 1: there when Floyd fought Logan, and Logan, you know, is

1097
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: obviously a pretty good athlete, but Floyd couldn't put him

1098
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: away and even said after in the postfight presser, I'm

1099
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: done with real bouts, Like I'll do this, you know,

1100
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: fun influencer stuff or whatever, but like, I'm I'm not

1101
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: doing this. I wouldn't fight a real boxer anymore. He was,

1102
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: and he was like kind of humble about it, which

1103
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: I don't ever say about Floyd Mayweather, and he was

1104
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: humble about it. And here we're doing this. Dude to me, like,

1105
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: if again, if there were huge bouts happening in conjunction

1106
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: with this, I don't know that I would care. But

1107
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: these are the only seemingly I know, we just had

1108
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: Kendall the Crawford, but like these kinds of things, and

1109
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: the Netflix is pining for it, Dude. It makes me

1110
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: feel a little weird about the state of the fucking sportman.

1111
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, yeah, it's yeah, I'm with you completely.

1112
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 3: Turkey's been quiet lately, like when when he's putting on bangers,

1113
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 3: since he controls these days the majority of the star

1114
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 3: fighters in the game, of course, I don't feel this

1115
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 3: way as much. But and obviously that that big ring

1116
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 3: card coming out the end of November is very good

1117
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: with Benavitez in the main event in Haini versus Norman.

1118
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, look, here's the problem, okay, I mean, the

1119
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 3: problem is the fight's unnecessary. They're too old, and if

1120
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 3: it was an exhibition, i'd hate it more, But I

1121
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 3: also hate it as a real fight. If only, to

1122
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 3: be honest, if only Manupaciao, who got a draw against

1123
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 3: welter Way title holder Mario Barrios earlier this year, if

1124
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: only he had won, and rightfully he should have. If

1125
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 3: you rewatch that fight and score it, uh, he kind

1126
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 3: of got a raw deal. We talked about that a lot.

1127
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 3: At least we would have this a rematch with the

1128
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 3: actual world title at stake and Floyd dunbeaten record and

1129
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: even though yes, it's an old guy side show that

1130
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 3: that just happened. Sometimes the legend of Pacquiao stumbled into

1131
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 3: a real title and it was enough to get Floyd

1132
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 3: back in shape. And here we go. It's it's both

1133
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 3: at the same time. It really does matter and it's

1134
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 3: this complete side show. But just because of that one

1135
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 3: little change and the judges scoring at a draw rather

1136
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 3: than a manny victory, it's it's now a complete side show.

1137
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 3: And these are the marquee fights. Like I I really

1138
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 3: I've said it from the beginning, I really hope Jake

1139
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 3: Tank doesn't happen. Just it's just it's just not it's

1140
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 3: just not necessary, I guess I want to say in

1141
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 3: the arc of Gervonte Davis, but the arc of Jervonte

1142
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 3: Davis is going downhill repeatedly, not just in his outside

1143
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 3: the ring stuff, but he was uninspired and overwhelmed against Roach.

1144
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 3: He talked about retirement coming into that anyway, He's obviously

1145
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 3: holding up really big fights that could be happening in boxing,

1146
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 3: including the shakhor Stevenson one.

1147
00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: Uh.

1148
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 3: But at this point, it's how many more times could

1149
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 3: he get caught for the same thing or accused of

1150
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 3: the same thing, And we're just gonna sit here and

1151
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 3: be okay with it. You add that onto a fight

1152
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 3: that no one wants and the ticket sales aren't moving

1153
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 3: makes me feel bad. Luke makes me feel bad. I mean,

1154
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 3: I didn't feel great being had that Danny Garcia finale,

1155
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 3: which was very underpopulated. I don't feel great that Every

1156
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 3: week the last two months were like, where the hell

1157
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 3: is this sport? I know we got some decent fights

1158
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 3: coming up Lubin Ortez, like, you know, there's some one

1159
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 3: offs coming up Ben versus U Bank too, But damn man.

1160
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: Can I ask a question?

1161
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 3: But you know this is a show for questions, Luke long.

1162
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: On, Luke, I would like to get your impression here too.

1163
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: Let's combine this conversation with what we've talked about with topology,

1164
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: where the at least in the dominant three markets in MMA,

1165
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: maybe some other ones, but certainly the dominant ones that

1166
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: the number of overall events are declining. Are people becoming

1167
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: less interested in combat sports after a boom period.

1168
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 4: I don't think it's after a.

1169
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: Two and five to twenty nineteen even even for parts

1170
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: of the pandemic, and there're two obviously, but certainly that

1171
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: period was one of the most explosive growth periods of

1172
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: combat sports in my life.

1173
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was also like so new at that

1174
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 4: at least for UFC. We're talking boxing as well. Like

1175
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 4: you know, the UFC in two thousand and five is

1176
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 4: what twelve years old, So it's like it was so

1177
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 4: new at that point. I don't know, man, I do

1178
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 4: think it's going down a lull right now, but I

1179
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 4: do think it's going to come back up.

1180
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 3: I think the Paramount kickoff will help UFC and hopefully

1181
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 3: they can maintain that. I think overall, Luke, the warehouse cards,

1182
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 3: all the stuff that we complained about the last two

1183
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 3: years to some degree has watered down the.

1184
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: The But this is boxing too, you can I'm getting boxing.

1185
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 3: I'm saying it's definitely watered down. The crossover cultural appeal

1186
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 3: partly is, of course you have seen not building up

1187
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 3: stars as aggressively. But on the flip side, but not

1188
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 3: only was UFC red hot Postpan boxing was pretty damn

1189
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 3: red hot in twenty twenty three with all those big

1190
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 3: fights Tank versus Ryan Spence, Crawford, what have you. I

1191
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna be really honest, I think as good

1192
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 3: as Turkey has done in not only bringing big fights

1193
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 3: together that we always say probably wouldn't have because of

1194
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 3: the money, and if it works out, unionizing and organizing

1195
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 3: the sport under one entity, which is the goal. The

1196
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 3: biggest fail in that has been keeping all the big

1197
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 3: fights on his own pay per view where you have

1198
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 3: to have his own subscription to order it, and not

1199
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,479
Speaker 3: putting stuff on national television, not you know, not doing

1200
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 3: enough Netflix shows until his first one there Kenello Crawford,

1201
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 3: which was a major success. I think that's really put

1202
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 3: boxing deeper into the niche Nietzche Bowl. You know, Showtime

1203
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 3: going away as well didn't help that top rank can't

1204
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 3: get a TV deal here we are. I don't think

1205
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 3: that means it's dead and not coming back, but it's

1206
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 3: a low period. And if you're somebody who wants to

1207
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 3: be a boxing fan, but they make it difficult for you.

1208
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 3: And you hated Tyson Paul rightfully so, and you're probably

1209
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,439
Speaker 3: gonna hate Mayweather Pacio too as much as you're gonna

1210
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 3: hate Jake Tank. So this is what we got, okay,

1211
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 3: because if you don't, I mean, that's the problem with

1212
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 3: being on his own. I've always been honest with that.

1213
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 3: The only people in America on designer boxing fans. That's it.

1214
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 3: That is it. No one's stumbling across that like they

1215
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 3: might on their Amazon Prime menu or you got to say,

1216
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 3: Netflix does a good job of putting fights in front

1217
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 3: of you. My wife, out of nowhere two days ago,

1218
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 3: was like, so let's talk about Javonte Davis's tattoos. I'm

1219
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 3: like what what? Like, what how did we you know?

1220
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, oh, the Netflix affect.

1221
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: Yes, it's just I'm just telling you, Like they're the

1222
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: ones being like, okay, we want to have a big

1223
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: boxing event. Let's go get Mayweather and fucking Pakia as

1224
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: they bang fifties door down, like, well.

1225
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 3: You know, it's a bunch of executives going. But Tyson

1226
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 3: got us a lot. These guys can probably get close

1227
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 3: to that, right.

1228
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: Okay, but okay, who are the other boxers who could

1229
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: do that that are active?

1230
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 3: And you know, well we would have that if they

1231
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 3: fought each other, and I hope they will soon.

1232
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: I hope they don't. Motherfuckers saying well, all of them

1233
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: have had problems.

1234
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 3: Tanks had problems, Ryan's had problems, like these are the

1235
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 3: guys that are usually responsible for these really big fights

1236
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 3: Spence never fought again Bud Fogg.

1237
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: Ryan for each other. But I know what you mean,

1238
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: like you know in general, No.

1239
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 3: But they fought each other and then they both kind

1240
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 3: of went away lately in terms of mattering. So for sure, Uh, yeah,

1241
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 3: it sucks and that's all I have to say about it.

1242
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 3: You have you got that Rayfaield tweet? Do you have

1243
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,479
Speaker 3: any other info about this as uh.

1244
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: This is what he reported.

1245
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 3: Ten years Yeah, right, all right. The fight has contemplated

1246
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 3: as an official match up, not an exhibition. Uh, these

1247
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 3: talks are real the quote the source said, but who

1248
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 3: knows if it'll get done, so Luke. Simultaneously, of course,

1249
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 3: Manny Pacya was also publicly entertaining an exhibition match with

1250
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 3: a retired Vasilli Womachenko. That I have to say, many

1251
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 3: you just fall for a title at forty six. If

1252
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 3: you got Loma to retirement, who's in his early forties

1253
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 3: and you did this just as a legit, fun kind

1254
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 3: of mini super fight, I'd be all for it. You

1255
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 3: put that exhibition tag on there, miss me with it,

1256
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, seriously, I don't. I

1257
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 3: don't want this. Also, it seems that this Maypack two

1258
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 3: talk has rightfully killed whatever that Floyd Mayweather versus Tyson

1259
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 3: exhibition idea was that inevitably would suck too. So there

1260
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 3: we are.

1261
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: That's good. I mean I'll take Mayweather Pakio two over

1262
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: Mayweather Tyson, you know what I mean, especially if it's

1263
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: a real bout. I mean I don't want that either.

1264
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 3: Dude, what do we do?

1265
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: Why are guys near? I mean, how much money is

1266
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: pak Does you owe a ton of money?

1267
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 3: I know I don't know his financial situation, but somebody

1268
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 3: should check Michael Khnson's bank accountant. Thank you his old

1269
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 3: financial guy.

1270
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 8: Uh.

1271
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 3: I mean top ranks on freaking top rank classics. At

1272
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 3: the moment, this sport is in chaos. Maybe data is

1273
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 3: the safer we need.

1274
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: Luke, I don't know if chaos is the word or

1275
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: free fall, but.

1276
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 3: In trouble we fallen. But you can't kill it. Larry

1277
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 3: Merchant was right, you can't kill it. There'd be another

1278
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 3: super fighter on the corner. I just hope the guys

1279
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 3: are under forty. I really do. Thank you so much

1280
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 3: to Big Number three talk about this for a viral podcast.

1281
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 3: Burn Chrysler's got a god forsaken show.

1282
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: Can you imagine going on his podcast and thinking this

1283
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: is a good idea.

1284
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the worst laugh of all time. Luckily he

1285
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Speaker 3: kept his shirt on, but he welcomed Ronda Rousey, and

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Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, man, Ronda Rowsey has done

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Speaker 3: some interviews lately, and for the first time in a

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Speaker 3: long time, she didn't piss me off, and I was like,

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Speaker 3: I get where she's coming from. Now. Granted those those

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Speaker 3: interviews were about pro wrestling. This was about MMA, and

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Speaker 3: this ral the few people that already didn't like Ronda

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Speaker 3: Rowsey rightfully so up, namely that she still appears to

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Speaker 3: be at odds with both MMA fans and MMA media

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Speaker 3: and MMA fandom in general. She also dropped a dougie

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Speaker 3: on Joe Rogan that was kind of surprising to the

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Speaker 3: level here that before we get Luke's take, we kind

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Speaker 3: of had a call in our friends from Quervo because

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Speaker 3: spicy Ronda getting rowdy like shot Fired style. Shot Fired

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Speaker 3: segment of course, brought to you by Querevo. Now is

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01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 3: a good time to enjoy Kila that invented tequila, and

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Speaker 3: we are probably right around the corner here by the way.

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Speaker 3: From UFC three twenty two pregame preview Mkay with Quervos

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Speaker 3: to get ready. Here is first Ronda route talking about

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01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 3: Joe Rogan with Burn Chrysler.

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Speaker 2: Is there a price point that would get you back

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Speaker 2: in the Oxgon?

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Speaker 8: I mean, I have everything I want. There's nothing that

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01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 8: would really changed my life.

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Speaker 2: Just do let's do price points on this.

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Speaker 8: Okay, billion dollars, one hundred and fifty million, billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: Three hundred and fifty million dollars billion. You're just fighting

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Speaker 2: Burn Chrysler.

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Speaker 8: All right, I will beat the shadow you in your

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Speaker 8: backyard for this house.

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Speaker 2: How long do I get the train?

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Speaker 1: I was just talking to Joe on the walkover.

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Speaker 2: How long for me to train to beat Ronda? That'll

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01:03:58,080 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 2: never have it.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't know.

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Speaker 2: He's not a expert.

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01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 8: He's a fan with an audience.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting is that you feel.

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Speaker 3: Never fought?

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01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 2: He fought. He fought taekwondo, right.

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01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 3: Never fought.

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Speaker 4: That's not fighting, it's not fighting.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna actually this conversation.

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Speaker 3: I don't want you to get any bad dms. We

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01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 3: need to get out. Wow, Wow, we got one more

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01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 3: piece of content to show you.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I don't watch a lot of burnt Chrysler content

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01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: because I'm a You're not Mikey. I'm not a masochist

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01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: in that way. Uh, he can't have a contra I

1334
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: mean we all do it to an extent, but like,

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01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: I've never seen a guy who cannot have a conversation

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01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: at every interval without telling the other person he's interviewing

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01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: about his life. Every single time. It's you know a

1338
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: little bit now and again. It's fine, you know, everyone like,

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: but it's like every fucking interval.

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Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, sorry, Well it's true. Stars make it

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01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 3: all about themselves in this industry, Luke, We've seen that many.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 3: Ronda though, upset about this specific point with MMA fans,

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01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 3: the idea that they only love you when you're unbeaten

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01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 3: and you're dominating and you're winning, but they instantly hate

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01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 3: you when you lose. Or maybe it's because of the

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01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 3: way you acted. Hey, here's Ronda talking about it.

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Speaker 8: MMA fans and media are the most what have you

1349
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 8: done for a slightly crowd of any sport? Like you

1350
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 8: look at WWE and they have such a reverence for

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01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 8: their legends, and at MMA, it's like the second that

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01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 8: you're not on top, you're not shit and you never

1353
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 8: wear shit.

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01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 3: Chuck Adell.

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Speaker 8: When he's on top, Oh my god, he's the best.

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Speaker 3: He's the best.

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Speaker 8: The second that he loses, oh, chuck the dell a

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01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 8: and shitt he never wi shit, Ram Page Jackson, Oh

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01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 8: my god, he's the next. He's the next, Mike Tyson.

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Speaker 8: He's so great. Second he loses, oh, rampaging and shit,

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Speaker 8: you never wi shit. Gsp Oh he loses. You know,

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Speaker 8: he's not shit.

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Speaker 3: He never was shit.

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Speaker 8: And I think the only reason that why MMA fans

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01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 8: have their lips so firmly planted at the base of

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01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 8: Kabeb's cook is because he retired before he reaches limit.

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Speaker 8: And if he ever if he kept fighting until he

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01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 8: reach his limit, everybody'd be like, oh, could be bain shit.

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Speaker 4: He never w was shit.

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Speaker 8: And they're like that with everybody, like name some name

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01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 8: one person brought gain hit you never w was shit.

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Speaker 8: Name one pass champion that has that the kind of

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Speaker 8: respect that the current champions do. It's it's really sad

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Speaker 8: because I think it encourages people to try and get

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01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 8: out while they're peaking and taking all of that equity

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Speaker 8: with them instead of passing it on to whoever's next

1377
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 8: to take up the mantle. I wanted to retire undefeated

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01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 8: because I was so afraid of like, oh, everything that

1379
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 8: I accomplished is going to be nothing if I ever lose.

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01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 8: So I have to retire undefeated.

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Speaker 2: Feed it.

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Speaker 3: So that was shots fired, brought to you by Cuervo.

1383
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 3: Now it's a good time to enjoy the tequila that

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01:06:53,680 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 3: invented tequila Luke Thomas. Does she have a point?

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01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: No, you go first, then?

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01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 3: Okay? Does she have a point in general that MMA

1387
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,919
Speaker 3: doesn't love their legends like they do And she's saying

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01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 3: in w W E or in other sports. To some degree,

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01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 3: I could say that's true, but that's not an MMA

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01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 3: media or fan problem. It's kind of just the way

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01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 3: UFC promotes. Yes, they got a Hall of Fame. Yes

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01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 3: there's legends still employed like DC on commentary, et cetera.

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01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 3: But they're not really about the past. They're always about

1394
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 3: the future and what's next, always, always, always, and they

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01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 3: expand and they grow and look at where they are now.

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Speaker 3: I don't always love that. I love comparing things to

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01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 3: the past. I love you know you, but they don't

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01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 3: parade legends around typically on that level. I love what

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01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 3: Josee Aldo got in Brazil when him and his family

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01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 3: got to retire for you know, for real. There there's

1401
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 3: some moments like that. The recent sendoffs to Robbie Lawler,

1402
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 3: people like that have been great. The other point I

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01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 3: I I object with is she said, we're such a

1404
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 3: you know, we're such a community of what have you

1405
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 3: done for me lately? That's combat sports, Ronda, because you

1406
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 3: don't have one hundred and sixty two game seasons. Here,

1407
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 3: you have two fights, a AR four Lucky with the Stars, right,

1408
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 3: three fights are great Kevin Holland, But that's it, right,

1409
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 3: So automatically it's always going to be hypercritical of what

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01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 3: you've done for me lately, because whatever you've done for

1411
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 3: me lately is who you are. I know you can

1412
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 3: have bad nights, but that's all we have to judge

1413
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 3: you off. This is not a problem of everyone turned

1414
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 3: on her because she lost. This is a problem because

1415
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,799
Speaker 3: she turned on everybody with the way she handled losing.

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01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to downplay the depression and even

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01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 3: near suicide thoughts she had in the immediacy of that loss,

1418
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 3: because I try to imagine being in her shoes at

1419
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 3: that time and where her head was and her fame

1420
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 3: was and all of that. I get it all. She imploded,

1421
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 3: but I get it all. But when she acts so

1422
01:08:56,360 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 3: abrasively and has you know, I'll fight newness, but only

1423
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 3: under the most protected ways of I'm only going to

1424
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,839
Speaker 3: talk to Ramona Shelburn and that said, and f everyone

1425
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,600
Speaker 3: else like this is on you, you disappeared. You know

1426
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 3: this ain't on us. It's disappointing to see this, Luke,

1427
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 3: because in some ways it's misdirected. But I think if

1428
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 3: she actually showed that she cares about her mma, legacy

1429
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 3: and the sport today and showed up and acted like

1430
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 3: like we don't actually need her to come back and fight.

1431
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 3: What she accomplished will always be in stone what it was.

1432
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 3: An amazing star and pioneer in every sense of the word.

1433
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 3: But she's the one that's been in hiding and been

1434
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 3: angrily aggressive towards this business. Come back, act human, and

1435
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,799
Speaker 3: I think it would embrace her. We do love legends

1436
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 3: in this game, and also maybe talk to your boy, Dana.

1437
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 3: They should do a little bit more to parade what was.

1438
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 3: I agree with that, but that's not everything in this game.

1439
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 3: I respect you build with the audience, af the media,

1440
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 3: we're fickle. The respect you build with the audience, that's

1441
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 3: what should matter. You can invest back in that if

1442
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 3: you want, but you gotta be there. You gotta try.

1443
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: I think you make some pretty good points, I will say,

1444
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you agree with this. It is no

1445
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: matter what you want to say in terms of who's

1446
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: responsible for what. It is very regrettable that Ronda and

1447
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: a legend of the game and pioneer in many ways,

1448
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 1: and what she did or certainly you know, whatever you

1449
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: want to say she did is an enormously important chapter

1450
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: in MMA's history and development that the person largely responsible

1451
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: for that can't be celebrated by the MMA community. Now

1452
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: you might be able to point out she didn't let

1453
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: herself be and I understand that, but I'm saying just

1454
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 1: how fractured and broken it is. It is very regrettable,

1455
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: and I wish it was not this way for her

1456
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: sake and for MMA's sake. I wish it was not

1457
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: this way. I think you raised some good points. B

1458
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: ce I do. It's the nature of combat sports, I

1459
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: will say, MMA fans, I mean, look how fast are

1460
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: turning on Tom aspinall and others Like you know, I

1461
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: understand your point that the limited volume of competition results

1462
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: kind of exacerbates, but culturally there's like a victim blaming

1463
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 1: culture in MMA as well, and you know that's part

1464
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: of it. On the other hand, I was there not

1465
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: when she lost to Holly Holm, but I remember the

1466
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 1: aftermath of it, and if you don't, she took that

1467
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: loss very poorly. Uh. And then for the Amanaded new

1468
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 1: Nest fight because people might not remember this BC, but

1469
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: for the Amanaded Nest fight, she wouldn't talk to MMA

1470
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 1: media at all, as you indicated. She only talked to

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01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 1: Ramona Shellburn. And did you hear Ariel caught some strays

1472
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: in this interview. I'm not sure if you heard it. PC.

1473
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 1: She was, you know, because Bert brings her up, brings

1474
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 1: them up, and then she's like, you know, what was

1475
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: the last time I've gone on his show? You know

1476
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: what does that say? But she was making a point

1477
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: not just about him, but about all of MMA media. Yeah,

1478
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: something to be said for that, dude. I mean, I've

1479
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: kind of you know, it's hard to do both interviewing

1480
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 1: with fighters as well as being critical of them, and

1481
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: you might it's not for the reason people think, which

1482
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: is oh they'll get mad at you. I mean, yes,

1483
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: they will get mad at you, but it's the manager

1484
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: in them. They'll just decide to stop talking to you.

1485
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: So you have a very difficult balance to strike, which is,

1486
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: how do you maintain a professional relationship with an entity

1487
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 1: when you're very critical of them and they're very sensitive

1488
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: about this. Now, if you're big enough, they kind of

1489
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 1: just get over it, many of them do. Many of

1490
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: them seem to just kind of find a way to

1491
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 1: live with it. But I can just tell you from

1492
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:32,600
Speaker 1: personal experience, it is a great source of constant problems.

1493
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: So you kind of have to just pick a lane, honestly,

1494
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: and you know everyone picks their own. But I sort

1495
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: of get what she's saying about that. She's like, why

1496
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Speaker 1: am I going to be doing interviews with people who

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Speaker 1: are critical of me? And my answer is, I don't

1498
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: think that's a great response. But that is so typical

1499
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: of how the media.

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Speaker 3: That's why I say, don't don't worry about the media,

1501
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 3: because half of them are just facal for the fake

1502
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 3: of his sake.

1503
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: If she combines the two, she doesn't it. She sees

1504
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: them as interconnected.

1505
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 3: Right, and they're not. And also, our job critical also like,

1506
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 3: embrace your what you've accomplished, embraced that. I don't know

1507
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:09,719
Speaker 3: Duncan on podcasters. She didn't throw shops name in there, right, No.

1508
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean you heard it go after Rogan here, you know,

1509
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: and it's like, dude, do you remember this too? So

1510
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: after she loses, and then there is you know, Holly's

1511
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 1: competing and Ronda came back for the Amanda Dunas fight,

1512
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: they weren't allowed to show highlights of her win over Ronda. Now,

1513
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: when I say that, I'm not saying I got a

1514
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: memo where they had said that policy. I distinctly recall

1515
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: if you go back and look at the trailer used

1516
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: to promote the Amanda Nunas fight, there's no footage of

1517
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: that loss that appears. Now they make reference to it

1518
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: and things like that, but they don't actually show her

1519
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: getting head kicked. It was such a big deal for her,

1520
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,759
Speaker 1: she didn't even want to be exposed to the highlights.

1521
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: And again, I'm sure it's painful. I guess the pin

1522
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make his BC. On the one hand,

1523
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: I do think there is kind of like the the

1524
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: sport is somewhat abusive to its stars and in a

1525
01:13:58,240 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: way that it shouldn't be, and I think we should

1526
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: all we should say that. On the other hand, she

1527
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:07,759
Speaker 1: seems to be reacting very negatively to things that definitely

1528
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: have a negative reaction among fighters generally, but her response

1529
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: is even relative to them outsized. Yeah, and I think

1530
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 1: that's kind of the problem. You might say, well, she

1531
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 1: gets more of the you know, the the invective than

1532
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 1: the other ones. Yeah, she probably does. But dude, you know,

1533
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, BC, tell me what I'm about

1534
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 1: to say is wrong to the audience. You can't believe

1535
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: the level of positive press an MMA fighter has gotten

1536
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: in their lives until you've seen Ronda Rousey Connor BC

1537
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: maybe have gotten you know a lot of that too,

1538
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: but like you know, as a breaking barriers and you know,

1539
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: changing the face of women's sports. And dude, she got

1540
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 1: more positive press than I've ever seen an MMA fighter get.

1541
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,839
Speaker 1: And for her to be like, oh, the MMA fans

1542
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 1: and the and the media were critical, it's like, I mean,

1543
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: what the fuck you want us to say? You got

1544
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 1: head kicked in Australia after taking an opponent lightly like.

1545
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then then we never heard from me again. Literally, Yeah,

1546
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 3: I'm not saying she owes all these reporters interviews. I'm

1547
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 3: just saying, like, no, she doesn't know a ship. But

1548
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 3: when you go away and you're angry to us about it,

1549
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 3: you're not gonna get good coverage. It just kind of

1550
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 3: is what it is. It's tied together, all right, we got.

1551
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 1: To move for an hour and a half.

1552
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 3: I don't know how that, How did that even happen?

1553
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 3: Like that's just like that's that podcast is like when

1554
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 3: you trust the fart, right, you know what I mean? Like,

1555
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 3: this is the last time I'm gonna do that. Well,

1556
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 3: last freaking time.

1557
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Speaker 1: You changed the name of it to Dutch Oven.

1558
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, hey, speaking of okay, speaking of nothing,

1559
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Speaker 3: speaking of the time, right I earned these tattoos. I

1560
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,240
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1569
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Speaker 3: it's time we tell the people for real that we're

1570
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Speaker 3: not too far away from MSG fight week. Thursday of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he is definitely HIV positive. I want to be

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Speaker 1: very clear.

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Speaker 3: Go all right, so I'm talking about Thank you very much. Okay,

1580
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 3: let's get into the next topic. Topic number four. Hey, PFL,

1581
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 3: can you hold on to your best assets here please?

1582
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 3: Larissa Pacheco, who famously beat Kayla Harrison in their Trilogy

1583
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 3: and is a two time PFL tournament champion, although she

1584
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 3: hasn't fought since that lost to Chris Cyborg in that

1585
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:15,759
Speaker 3: big pay per view card. According to Pacheco, the PFL

1586
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 3: has released her from her contract this week, despite already

1587
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 3: having a fight booked against Julia Bud. Why did PFL

1588
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 3: do this and does it even make sense LT? Because

1589
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 3: Larissa has now gone on social media and outright begged

1590
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 3: Dana White for a job and a return to the

1591
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 3: UFC where she's been before. The quote here from Pacheco

1592
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 3: as PFL reached out to me a month ago. They

1593
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 3: were going to send me a date, possibly against Julia Bud.

1594
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 3: So we wanted We waited, and then they were no

1595
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 3: longer interested in doing another fight and keeping the division going,

1596
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 3: and that they were releasing me. The reason they gave

1597
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 3: me was that there were no other fighters left. It

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01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 3: was just me Sarah Collins, who's fighting Cyborg now, who's

1599
01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 3: six to zero in Cyborg. I was supposed to fight

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01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 3: Julie one more time. Cyborg would fight that girl, she'd

1601
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 3: defend her title, and then I'd have the chance for

1602
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 3: my rematch afterwards, obviously against Cyborg, she says. PFL told

1603
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 3: Cyborg it was her last fight was against me, she'd

1604
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,759
Speaker 3: retire early, that she had no interest in fighting me again.

1605
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 3: So I said, all right, That's what happened. They released me,

1606
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 3: even though I still had two fights left on my contract. LT.

1607
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 3: Isn't as simple as they don't want to employ that

1608
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 3: division anymore because she's one of the you could argue

1609
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 3: that she's one of like the seven best women in

1610
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 3: this on this planet in this sport.

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01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean, she's good, but what does it do for

1612
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 1: your bottom line? PFL, look at what they're doing, dude.

1613
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: They keep I'm not against it, I support it, but

1614
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 1: they basically keep trying to simplify. PFL came out with

1615
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 1: this thing like, oh, promote matchmakers and promoters are unfair.

1616
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 1: We're going to take that out of it. And there's

1617
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: so many fighters who get who are underserved based on

1618
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 1: one circumstance of the other. We're going to be the

1619
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: antidote to that. And that is fun for a while,

1620
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,759
Speaker 1: but at some point you realize you're supporting losing causes

1621
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 1: and that these have to be shed because yes, it

1622
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: differentiates your product, but the other people in the space

1623
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 1: don't use it because it ultimately also doesn't work. Or

1624
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 1: maybe they can make it work for reasons that other

1625
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 1: entities cannot. Dude, if you're trying to make your product

1626
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: as lean and mean and sellable as possible, if you

1627
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 1: wanted to actually grow a fan base, and they know

1628
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 1: they've got new leadership there at PFL, and you know

1629
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 1: they'regain to trying to simplify the product and make it

1630
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 1: more accessible and all of these kinds of efforts, which

1631
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,560
Speaker 1: I generally support. Why on earth would you float a

1632
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 1: division where Cyborg has one left? And after that, what

1633
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: do you have? You have nothing. You have to make

1634
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 1: very very very tough choices. If you're the PFL, I

1635
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: believe about what kinds of parts of our what is

1636
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 1: our product going to be, and to what extent should

1637
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: that be informed by what we can sell as the

1638
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 1: most dynamic parts of MMA to the broader audience. Because

1639
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: everything they've done, it's not like they haven't put on

1640
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: good fights PC they have. It's not like they haven't

1641
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 1: developed good fighters they have. It's not like they haven't

1642
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 1: done interesting things. They have. But they are this far

1643
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 1: into their run and they have no domestic fan base

1644
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 1: and they've got one year left on ESPN that will

1645
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: happen outside of the UFC halo, which, by the way,

1646
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 1: if the UFC halo goes to what extent will ESPN

1647
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: cover MMA at all? We simply do not know the

1648
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: answer to that. But I suspect if you're PFL, you

1649
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: might be a little bit worried about it. You need

1650
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: to make very careful decisions. I am sorry, I really

1651
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 1: am that Pataiko got hung out to dry. It sucks

1652
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: that they told her one thing and then you know

1653
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: that they pull out the rug from underneath there. I

1654
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 1: don't wish it upon her. She has value for UFC,

1655
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 1: but I also just think people need to be somewhat

1656
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: realistic about PFL. Not so much in the way that

1657
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,719
Speaker 1: they handled it per SBC, but like, if they're gonna

1658
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 1: get rid of this division and they've got one left

1659
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: with Cyborg, why on earth would they retain her services?

1660
01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: And honestly, getting rid of the division in the world

1661
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 1: where Cyborgan is no longer there and won't fight Pacheco,

1662
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: it makes all the sense in the world to me.

1663
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: It's just unfortunate that someone this good got left in

1664
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 1: this position, and I'm obviously unhappy about that.

1665
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, Pocheco's thirty two years old. She had a

1666
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,799
Speaker 3: ten fight win streak between her loss to Kayla Harrison

1667
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,839
Speaker 3: in their second fight and the loss to Chris Cyborg

1668
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 3: in her most recent fight, winning two tournament titles in between.

1669
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,640
Speaker 3: She fought at lightweight and featherweight and She did have

1670
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 3: a two fight UFC run back when she was twenty

1671
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 3: one years old, lost both fights by stoppage, a submission

1672
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 3: loss to Jessica Androdge in twenty fourteen and then ako

1673
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 3: loss in the second round to Jermaine Randomy. So that's

1674
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 3: obviously high level competition, but she's beaten some big names

1675
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 3: on the regional level as well that are in the

1676
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 3: UFC today. But here's the issue, Luke now. Should be

1677
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 3: should be the time that UFC does one of two things,

1678
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 3: in my opinion, Either brings back the featherweight division for women,

1679
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,560
Speaker 3: why because there's crazy depth. No, because I don't know

1680
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 3: how realistic it is for Kayla Harrison to keep making

1681
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 3: thirty five. We talk about this all the time, and

1682
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 3: you have her career rival who she's fought three times

1683
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 3: and lost and suffered that huge upset loss to, who's

1684
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 3: also really good and one of the best in the world.

1685
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 3: Or you do the women's heavyweight bit, however you want

1686
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 3: to do it. I feel like you have to create

1687
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 3: space because if they have no interest in it, and

1688
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's a overly financially huge decision to make,

1689
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 3: meaning as much as I would be interested in Kayla

1690
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 3: versus Pacheco four would mainstream MMA fans. I'm not sure, Luke,

1691
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 3: is there a chance she has nowhere to go? And

1692
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 3: is that why the video where she was essentially begging

1693
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 3: Dana was the way it went.

1694
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 1: I I'm not sure. I'm guessing. I'm not sure.

1695
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 3: Okay, Uh long island. Luke reminding me that she was

1696
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 3: also on The Ultimate Fighter and got tko by Macy

1697
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 3: chaise On back in the day, so's she's come around

1698
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 3: as a fighter. But I mean, look, dude, look, do

1699
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 3: you believe Kaylea can keep making thirty five or you

1700
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 3: don't care? Where are we?

1701
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I cannot imagine she's got many more of

1702
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: those left? Inner all right? It takes it? Ge'ts shortening

1703
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 1: her fucking life? She I mean, I was a two three?

1704
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 1: What seems impossible to Maybe.

1705
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 3: Do you think Cyborg ever fights in the UFC again?

1706
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 2: No?

1707
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Well we do have Amanda coming back. Uh

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01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 3: Pacheco could be a name, but I don't know if

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01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 3: she can make one thirty five. That's probably the conversation

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01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 3: to have. Let's close here though, with topic number five,

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01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 3: and in honor of Halloween tonight, two Ki's night. Okay,

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01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 3: let's talk some scary stuff. Let's talk what's scary inside

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01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 3: mixed martial arts. Luke, we want to know on your list,

1714
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 3: who are the top five scariest punchers in MMA or

1715
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 3: UFC history.

1716
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 1: Okay, now, Long Island. Do you have a graphic for this?

1717
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1718
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 4: Do you want me to show it at the beginning

1719
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 4: or wait till you name him?

1720
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 3: No?

1721
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 1: Do it now, just show it up and I just

1722
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 1: I'll walk you through. All right, here are mine? Number five.

1723
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: We all gonna this is a deep cut, but we're

1724
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: talking about like scary punchers, not best fighters, just scary punchers.

1725
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 1: Number five, Drew mcfrederie's was just absolutely hitting people's off

1726
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: switches in the twenty in the two thousands and early

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01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,719
Speaker 1: twenty tens. I mean in a frightening and devastating puncher,

1728
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 1: limited fighter, but devastating. Need I say MOREBC at number four,

1729
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 1: the h Bomb Dan Henderson, Please, I mean, you could

1730
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:26,560
Speaker 1: put him higher on the list, but he's got to

1731
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: be on there. Anthony Rumbull Johnson sent people to the

1732
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 1: shadow realm in ways that was absolutely terrifying. You would,

1733
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean the glover to share a KOBC where he

1734
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 1: sent his teeth flying in one and Glover had a

1735
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 1: good chin for a while, but not after this fight.

1736
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 1: Shane Carwin, if you've never seen him send Christian Welsh's

1737
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 1: mouthpiece into fucking orbit, go take a look at that one.

1738
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 3: Brutally too.

1739
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 1: Yes, a terrifying puncher. I mean, if he connected it

1740
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 1: at all, it was curtains for you, and maybe the

1741
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,680
Speaker 1: scariest of them all. BC here in honor of Halloween.

1742
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: Francis fucking Anghanu the president himself. Well, I mean BC,

1743
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 1: just the There are many oko's you could pick, but

1744
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 1: the oveream KO was one of those times where you're like,

1745
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if I just saw a man murdered onto.

1746
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 3: In my opinion, in MMA history to this day, it's

1747
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 3: the most brutally, ridiculous, violent and he got a title

1748
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 3: shot a month later off of that.

1749
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:27,600
Speaker 1: I know, Long Island. After you see this list and

1750
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 1: BC's list, let's go over some names that we missed. Okay,

1751
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: let's do that.

1752
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 4: You. I'm gonna put up a poll too and have

1753
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 4: the fans vote on who has the better rate.

1754
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:36,679
Speaker 1: Great idea, I'd love.

1755
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 3: To see that, all right, Well, I want to make

1756
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 3: sure we had no duplicates, So I was I was

1757
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 3: digging a little deeper, but I think my list holds

1758
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 3: up to yours. When we're talking about scary shit. Number five,

1759
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 3: how about that featherweight freight train Josh Emmett. Don't know

1760
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 3: about that man's power. See the Bryce Mitchell fight and

1761
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 3: then talk to me later. Okay, somebody helped Bryce fix

1762
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 3: his nose right. Number four a born finisher and kicked

1763
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 3: by or Mma the two division maybe too soon to

1764
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 3: be three division champion Alex Poeton Pejeda. He does have

1765
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 3: the one touch sleep power the guy does when he

1766
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 3: puts that left hook on your chin, it's over. Obviously

1767
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 3: he can kick as well. We had to put Chuck

1768
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 3: Ledell in here, right, I mean nobody maybe outside of

1769
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 3: Dan Hendo, who became known at the tail end of

1770
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 3: his career as just the guy who had cock that

1771
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 3: h bomb right hand out there and threaten you with it.

1772
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 3: That's how Ladell kind of fought his whole career. You

1773
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 3: knew what was coming and that one punch could separate

1774
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 3: you from your senses. I love the Baba Loo stoppage. Obviously,

1775
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 3: the Tito or Teez knockout Luke. Number two, Melvin man

1776
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 3: Hoof could kill a man inside there, maybe even a horse.

1777
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 3: Right that guy in his absolute proper even when he

1778
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 3: was old, you know, could you could on a on

1779
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 3: a wrong night walk into sleepland. And he was known

1780
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 3: for that. He lived and died by it across a

1781
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 3: couple of disciplines and mixed martial arts. And how about

1782
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 3: number one, Mark Punt. I mean, I love when you're

1783
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 3: at a point in your career pre lawsuit of course,

1784
01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 3: where you're like, man, I'm just gonna get fat and

1785
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 3: live on my chin in my right hand. This is

1786
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 3: heavyweight mma. If you haven't seen the first fight with

1787
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 3: Bigfoot Silva, could change your life right now or make

1788
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 3: you never watch the sport again. What a bloodbath. All

1789
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 3: five of these gentlemen right here could do a little

1790
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 3: bit well. I like to call the three z's on

1791
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 3: that bitch right there. Okay, put you all to sleep

1792
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 3: because I'm too cheesy.

1793
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 1: Did you see Rap, for the first time in thirty

1794
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 1: eight years, has no song in the billboard top forty?

1795
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 3: About time.

1796
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 1: I think Rap has finally jumped the shark. Okay, here's

1797
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: who we missed for sure, we missed Robbie Lawler, for sure,

1798
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 1: we missed him.

1799
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 3: He's the guy's freaking ruthless.

1800
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 1: We missed Semtex Daily another guy with Again, we're not

1801
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 1: just talking about guys who are good strikers, right, scary

1802
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: punchers Long Island?

1803
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 3: Okay, how about step A? How about the damn Fireman?

1804
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, Derek Lewis, You guys no soul

1805
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 4: that No, because now Steve Witton.

1806
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 1: He's too well rounded to be considered a devastating puncher.

1807
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 1: He's also not a devastating puncher. No.

1808
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 4: I was trying to think a little more outside the box,

1809
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 4: so I went lower weight classes and women. How about Cyborg?

1810
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, yes on.

1811
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: Cyborg early Cyborg, Yeah, yeah.

1812
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 3: Yes on it. Jessica Androge is probably.

1813
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 4: One of devastating John Linneker hands the stone, John Yeah great.

1814
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 1: John Dodson also has some.

1815
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 3: Isn't there a guy thats that owns the UFC record

1816
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 3: for knockouts?

1817
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 4: I think it's Derek Lewis, might be or doesn't Matt

1818
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 4: Brown weirdly own the record or something.

1819
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 1: But he's got yeah, but he's got like elbow k

1820
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 1: o s and the about Derek Lewis, man, that guy

1821
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 1: has got one punch touch right there.

1822
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 4: Uh, I'm looking at the comments right now, people are

1823
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:55,560
Speaker 4: saying aspinall.

1824
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 3: I feel like it's I mean, Es was more combo.

1825
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's his speed and he's a great puncher,

1826
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 1: but it's the jury. You have to have several where

1827
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 1: you just like just lay them out flat in one go.

1828
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 3: Would you put Fador in that category? No, not even

1829
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 3: old Fador?

1830
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 1: No, ok no, he's not a puncher like that.

1831
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 5: No.

1832
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who else are we missing here?

1833
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 3: John Lineker is the perfect sort of you know, Emma

1834
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 3: embodies that too, But like that's John Lineker should have

1835
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 3: been in my top five man because that, you know,

1836
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:31,560
Speaker 3: for the second half of his career, that's all you

1837
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 3: knew from him, That's all he was there to do.

1838
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 1: Yes, Lineker is a great call. I mean, obviously he's

1839
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:38,719
Speaker 1: not in the UFC anymore, but he did fight there,

1840
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 1: especially for the smaller guys as well. Would you put

1841
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,839
Speaker 1: Iliot Toporion there? He's a pretty devastating puncher.

1842
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's getting there, dude, He's freaking getting you know

1843
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, I still don't think of him

1844
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 3: like that, but the results are the way they are right,

1845
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 3: like you know.

1846
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the thing is you can kind

1847
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 1: of say, well, the volcan one was whatever it was,

1848
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: and Charles is getting old, and you know Max has

1849
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 1: been through it, but like no one had ever done

1850
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 1: that to Max and he fucking it.

1851
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 3: You know, It's like, damn, dude, Shane Carwin just had it.

1852
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 1: People have no clue. Shane Carwin terrifying.

1853
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 3: No bits, no bits having to spar with that guy. Seriously,

1854
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 3: straight up.

1855
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm dead serious. I could not imagine that's that's torture.

1856
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:19,679
Speaker 1: I would not ward, could you every ever and multiple

1857
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 1: times a week at that dude? That is unfair. That's

1858
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 1: unfair to ask him a person?

1859
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 3: Do you put rampage in this?

1860
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 1: In his prime he was a good puncher. He was

1861
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 1: a good boxer, but he wasn't like a devastating puncher

1862
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 1: in that way. No vitor belfore had fast hands, but

1863
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 1: not exactly like a bomb. Rumble Johnson was the two.

1864
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 3: O five throat Rumble Johnson.

1865
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 1: I had him in my list. I had him in

1866
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 1: my list. Yes, yes he was there. There's my list.

1867
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta have him on there. But I

1868
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 1: just feel like there's some deep cuts were missing some

1869
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 1: guys who were limited fighters but who could fucking punch.

1870
01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 3: You know, I love those type of guys. Reminds me

1871
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 3: of ran Obaileyan boxing. Remember that dude the end of

1872
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 3: his careage just went to South Korea and was just

1873
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 3: knocking dudes fly.

1874
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 1: Julian Jackson was I think my all time favorite hart puncher.

1875
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 1: He was, oh yeah, crushing people. It was insane.

1876
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:16,880
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Speaker 3: the costume on. Uh uh. At first, I was like, hey, wife,

1915
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 3: let's go out to eat so we don't have to

1916
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 3: give out candy. But then she you know, talked me

1917
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:09,799
Speaker 3: back into having goodwill for my community and the young kids.

1918
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:12,679
Speaker 3: And so we're gonna probably uh uh you know, make

1919
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 3: dinner and then give out candy like like we should, right,

1920
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:17,440
Speaker 3: you know, we're civic providers.

1921
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 1: Go see a movie and turn on the sprinklers.

1922
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 3: I wanted to see the movie, but it's like literally

1923
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:24,759
Speaker 3: all Halloween gore and you know, lady, don't get.

1924
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 2: Down like that.

1925
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 1: All right, all right, I can't say what I want

1926
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 1: to say.

1927
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 3: Uh, Luke, We got another segment here before we close

1928
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:36,639
Speaker 3: with the fans. It's the second time this has ever happened. Okay,

1929
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 3: no one really likes putting another third person in the

1930
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:42,639
Speaker 3: marriage bed, but in this case, we'll make a pass.

1931
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 3: This one's called at Baby. Did you hear that?

1932
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 4: Guy?

1933
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:53,679
Speaker 3: All? Wow?

1934
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: Here's how it works.

1935
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna prevent present Luke with eight different categories and

1936
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 3: three answers. He has to rate them all from best

1937
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 3: to worst, or I'll let you know if that changes

1938
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 3: at all. Luke number topic number one here retroactive death pardons.

1939
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 3: Let's say you get that sickle. You get to decide

1940
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:17,439
Speaker 3: who to bring back. Rank them in order from from

1941
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:22,559
Speaker 3: best to worst. John F. Kennedy, Sean Taylor of Redskins fame,

1942
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 3: or Chris Farley.

1943
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 1: The answer is Sean Taylor, and I'll tell you why.

1944
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 1: H correct me if I'm wrong? Can you guys double

1945
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 1: check this? I believe Sean Taylor was twenty four when

1946
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 1: he was killed. He was he was like insanely young

1947
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 1: and had his life and he was fucking murdered. You know.

1948
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 1: Let's let's I mean, obviously John F. Kennedy was fucking

1949
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 1: murder too, But Chris Farley not so much. Chris Farley's

1950
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 1: gonna go last. WHOA well, well, I like Chris Farley more.

1951
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 3: So. Wait, the one you're bringing back first is Sean Taylor.

1952
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:58,639
Speaker 1: Sean Taylor number one, I should say number twenty one,

1953
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 1: but yes, he'd be first on this line. Man, fuck

1954
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 1: the Kennedy's. Yeah, let's bring back Farley. Let's bring back

1955
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 1: Farley number two, and then we'll bring you know, well

1956
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 1: jfk bringing up the rear.

1957
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 3: Okay, here we go rfk's uncle. He's back. Luke. There

1958
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 3: you go, all right? Topic number two here on Orang

1959
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 3: jatois arrange these from best to worse of UFC Action

1960
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 3: fight classics, the twenty fifteen Daniel Cormier Alexander Gustavsen light everyweight,

1961
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 3: talk about the twenty twenty all female All banger in

1962
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:34,600
Speaker 3: the first meeting between way Lee and Joanna not for

1963
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 3: a title, and twenty eighteen the first meeting between Dustin

1964
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 3: Pourrier and Justin Gachee at lightweight. Rank these from best

1965
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:44,599
Speaker 3: to worst. Lit.

1966
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a tough one. These are all phenomenal fights.

1967
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:52,759
Speaker 3: And you must explain your answer, sir.

1968
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So I'm gonna go b Wileye and Johanna

1969
01:35:59,160 --> 01:35:59,759
Speaker 1: Number one.

1970
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 3: Look, she had a growth on her face.

1971
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 1: The best women's fight I've ever seen. I think you

1972
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 1: have to put that above very very good men's fights.

1973
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 1: But you know, okay, so I'm gonna go with that one.

1974
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 1: Number one. This is where it gets dicey mmm. I

1975
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 1: feel like most people would say Parier Gaichee, and I

1976
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 1: think if you've got that as number two, I can't

1977
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 1: really argue with it because what I'm gonna say is

1978
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 1: from a sentimental perspective. This is what the Cormier Gustafson

1979
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 1: is maybe my favorite Cormier fight, and not because he well,

1980
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 1: he does win, but dude, he got pushed. He got

1981
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 1: pushed big time, and that fight nearly got away from

1982
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 1: him a couple of times, and he had to really

1983
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 1: show his quality. Poitier had to do that against Gaichee too,

1984
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 1: and it was more blood and guts, I think, honestly,

1985
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:57,480
Speaker 1: rather than you know, I think what I liked about

1986
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 1: Cormier and Gustafson I was for a tight you know,

1987
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:05,599
Speaker 1: the quality was really really high, whereas the quality between

1988
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:07,560
Speaker 1: Gaechee and Poier was also very high, but it was

1989
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 1: a little bit more just bite down and go yeah.

1990
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 1: And that again, that's for some people that's going to

1991
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 1: make it higher in the rankings. I still appreciate that,

1992
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 1: but I'm always going to appreciate some of the more

1993
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 1: refined values that you can find in the crucible of

1994
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 1: a tough challenge that you saw with Cormier and a Gustavson.

1995
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 1: So I'll go that too.

1996
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 3: And then the last so Luco's BAC is his order

1997
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 3: there on number.

1998
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 1: Two alcohol content, which is going to be high in mine.

1999
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 3: Tonight, let's go to number three. We're talking about second

2000
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 3: tier Arnold Schwarzenegger movies from best to worst, True Lies

2001
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 3: with Jamie Lee Hurtis Man, Total Recall, one of my favorites,

2002
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:51,799
Speaker 3: and the Dandy DeVito Classic Twins. So we ain't getting

2003
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:54,560
Speaker 3: Commando Predator.

2004
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 1: Raw Deal Predator is not second tier. Predator is first tier.

2005
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:00,120
Speaker 3: Right, That's why I just said we ain't getting those

2006
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 3: are all first tier ones for me.

2007
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 1: You're question where would you put Schwarzenegger's Running Man.

2008
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 3: It's it's one. It's become one of my least favorites

2009
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 3: of his prime actions. Even though it's fun, over the top,

2010
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 3: like it's great, it's just my least favorite compared to

2011
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 3: Raw Deal, Commando Predator t too. Uh, you know, in

2012
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 3: that stretch where it was like all action bangers. My

2013
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:26,639
Speaker 3: kids love it. They're excited about the remake coming out.

2014
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm not excited about the remake. All right, put it

2015
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 1: up again. I read the book too. The book is

2016
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 1: very different even from the Schwarzenegger one. So all right,

2017
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 1: second tier Arnold movies, Okay, because of how weird it was,

2018
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:47,759
Speaker 1: you gotta go Total Recall as your first choice. Yes,

2019
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 1: I mean three titties. You don't see that very often

2020
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 1: because not.

2021
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:54,559
Speaker 3: Not that often, but still trying to find that bar

2022
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 3: one day in Mars Luke, you know.

2023
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:59,480
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, all right, So that's number one.

2024
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 3: True Lies was great, but it was really commercial though

2025
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:04,959
Speaker 3: at the same time.

2026
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 1: And it was also wild racist. Yeah, let's go Twins.

2027
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 1: Twins is so great when they have to explain to

2028
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 1: Danny DeVito, yes, this is your brother and in Utero,

2029
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 1: he got all of the gifts and you got all

2030
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 1: the leftover shit. One of my favorite fucking scenes. Yeah,

2031
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go BC A BC right, all.

2032
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:25,439
Speaker 3: Right, that's the LT choice. Let's go to number four.

2033
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 3: You know, eminem candies on Halloween are big Luke, and

2034
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 3: they got so many spinoff varieties. Rank these in order

2035
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:37,440
Speaker 3: of your preference of greatness. Caramel, peanut, butter, and pretzel.

2036
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 1: So this is an easy one to answer because it's

2037
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 1: not like I don't love a chocolate covered pretzel. But

2038
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 1: how could any human being think that that is on

2039
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 1: par with like a normal Eminem. It's like double chocolate

2040
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:57,759
Speaker 1: versus shoving in fucking dried out carbs.

2041
01:39:58,040 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 3: Dude, I love the pretzel ones. I'm gonna say that,

2042
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 3: By the way, are you one?

2043
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 1: Are you?

2044
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 3: No? Not number one?

2045
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 7: No?

2046
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 3: No, no, no number Peanut butter is the best flavor

2047
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 3: they ever created. But are you when it comes to

2048
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 3: the two basic ones milk chocolate and peanut, which one

2049
01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:10,599
Speaker 3: do you.

2050
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 1: Prefer milk chocolate ten times out of ten?

2051
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 3: All right, I'm with you on that. How are you

2052
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:15,760
Speaker 3: ranking these? Can we throw them back up?

2053
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2054
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 1: So peanut Eminem's again, it's like, do I want a

2055
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 1: peanut that's got chocolate on it? Sure, but I don't.

2056
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 1: I prefer the milk chocolate all the way through. So

2057
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 1: peanut butter is of these ones the easiest call. I mean, yes'

2058
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 1: just far. It's in the red bag. The red bag.

2059
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 1: The red bag is fucking deadly. Bro. Yeah, Caramel, I'll

2060
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 1: go second carmel, depending on how one pronounces it. And

2061
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:42,640
Speaker 1: then pretzels. You know, these are things I shit at

2062
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 1: Joseph A Bank. It's not that important to me.

2063
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 3: No, I agree completely with your rankings on this one.

2064
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 3: Let's go to our fifth one worst. You're gonna rank

2065
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 3: these from worst to best. Worst intrusive procedures to endure

2066
01:40:56,520 --> 01:41:02,880
Speaker 3: prostate check, amtrak delays, or see the second, Carla Asparzar

2067
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 3: Rosenama units.

2068
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, here is how bad amtrak delays are.

2069
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:12,559
Speaker 1: It's like I I would take having I take having

2070
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 1: a doctor shove his digits into my rear end to

2071
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:22,520
Speaker 1: medically evaluate my prostate. Wow, a fucking away.

2072
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 3: You can say that out loud, that would be That

2073
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 3: would be number one on my list the worst thing

2074
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 3: that could happen to you in your life.

2075
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 1: I've never had a prostate check.

2076
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 3: Have you had one of obsectomy with a Vietnam veterans?

2077
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 8: Oh?

2078
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:37,920
Speaker 1: Right now, I've had a I've not had a prostate check.

2079
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 3: Dude, you have for three days and you feel really

2080
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 3: bad about yourself.

2081
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 1: Do you feel like sexually violated?

2082
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 3: Yes? Whereas the whereas the colonoscopy you feel great.

2083
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, let's colonoscopy is nothing. You wake up

2084
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 1: like with the best snap you've ever had in your life.

2085
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 1: It's absolutely nothing. Here's what you are failing to appreciate. Okay,

2086
01:41:58,120 --> 01:41:59,719
Speaker 1: put that. Put this back up one more time.

2087
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,240
Speaker 3: Though choices, yeh, take this down. Here we go.

2088
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 1: Okay. Am track delays. The problem BC is that they

2089
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 1: last so fucking long. That's the problem. Here. You can

2090
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 1: say pound for pound is a prostate check worse in

2091
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:18,560
Speaker 1: every way, like per like on a per minute basis,

2092
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 1: What could be worse? You know what I'm saying. It's

2093
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 1: just straight up it's straight up prison torture. But the

2094
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:27,600
Speaker 1: time you have to spend if you go for a

2095
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 1: I do. I've been going to New York for fifteen

2096
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 1: fucking years. Do you know how much time in my

2097
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 1: life I have lost?

2098
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, you should have moved there a decade ago.

2099
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 1: Right, It's too expensive. It's too fucking expensive. I don't

2100
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:44,679
Speaker 1: want to just give all my money to fucking seven

2101
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 1: grand in rent to go live in Jersey City. Fuck that, dude,

2102
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that.

2103
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 3: Well, that's true after being there. Look, that's true.

2104
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, So, dude, I want to go in one

2105
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 1: and I forget the third one was?

2106
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 3: Uh?

2107
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:59,680
Speaker 1: What was the third one? Carlon? I mean, as bad

2108
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:02,639
Speaker 1: as that was, it only lasts for thirty minutes. Call

2109
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:03,679
Speaker 1: it a day. Who gets a shit?

2110
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 5: You know?

2111
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 3: Okay, here we go, Here we go. Number six. We're

2112
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:11,840
Speaker 3: gonna rank from best to worst best morning combat studios,

2113
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 3: And to separate these by eras. The first one I'm

2114
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:17,799
Speaker 3: gonna say is both the Bomb Shelter and Orchids of Combat,

2115
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 3: which is the first era of MK. Number two is

2116
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 3: the is the studio we designed ourselves with books, vinyl

2117
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:27,920
Speaker 3: and the RSD couch right in there. And number three

2118
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:30,440
Speaker 3: is where we're at these days in Manhattan on Mondays

2119
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:31,599
Speaker 3: at Metal Lark.

2120
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 1: So this, well, I mean, here's the thing. Each one's

2121
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:37,560
Speaker 1: got a little something to it. The Bomb Shelter or

2122
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 1: Orchids of Combat were the raw, early fun days metal Lark,

2123
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 1: where we are now absolutely the most consistent, highest level

2124
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:49,640
Speaker 1: production work. You know what I mean, we don't have

2125
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 1: to hear do you remember how consistently the fans used

2126
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 1: to complain quite rightly about the audio, you know, and

2127
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 1: how what a fucking night. You just don't hear that anymore.

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Speaker 1: I mean, nothing is perfect, but like relative to how

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01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:04,960
Speaker 1: it was, Middle Arc has completely erased that.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 1: And then of course, you know everyone's gonna be partial

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Speaker 1: to the one where we won the award in so

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01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna go something like that. I'm probably gonna

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Speaker 1: go we had too much freedom with A and B.

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Speaker 3: So problem with B. B's the first pick, be's the

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Speaker 3: best is the first The problem was we weren't there

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01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 3: a lot. If you remember, at the peak of that studio,

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01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 3: we were only going there like once a month and

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Speaker 3: a half two months, whereas A we were there every

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Speaker 3: single week.

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Speaker 4: It's true, I was in the studio multiple days a week,

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Speaker 4: and I can just say that was the best studio,

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01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 4: the B the B Yeah, okay, I used to sleep

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01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 4: on that couch, take naps on that couch. I mean, RSD,

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01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 4: let's go.

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01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 1: I can't believe a Long Island dirtbag would do something

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01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:46,800
Speaker 1: like that.

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01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:48,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, the answer here is b AC.

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01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,560
Speaker 1: I think that's right. I would say that the improvement

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01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:53,760
Speaker 1: in the quality at C makes it a little close

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01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 1: to A, but the rawness that we had, because I mean,

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01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 1: the thing is, the thing with Middle Ark is as

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01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:00,519
Speaker 1: good as the studios are in their phenomenal, we have

2154
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 1: to share them. They're not ours. Whereas with the Bomb

2155
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:06,880
Speaker 1: Shelter and the second one week you basically had to do.

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01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:08,559
Speaker 1: We could do whatever we want with it. And that's

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01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 1: just not the.

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01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:11,839
Speaker 3: S I'm surprise no one's defecated inside that studio.

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01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 1: Now for a lack of effort, Okay.

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01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to number seven here, Best to

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01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:28,520
Speaker 3: worst mma resumes slash legacies Dustin Poorrier, Kamarrow, Usman TJ. Dillashaw,

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01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:32,599
Speaker 3: who has the best to worst combination of resume and legacy?

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01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:36,400
Speaker 1: Ask him the wrong guy, because the answer for number

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01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:41,880
Speaker 1: one best is clearly Camorrow, right because pound king, Yeah,

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01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 1: I mean he's the seconds, He's the second best welterweight

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01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:49,440
Speaker 1: of all time behind Saint Pierre, and that's quite an achievement.

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01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:53,400
Speaker 1: So it's definitely Camorrow. Now, after that, you have to

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01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 1: ask yourself a question. How do you feel about someone

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01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 1: who didn't have a full weight class title, got pretty

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01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 1: close but didn't have a full weight class title versus

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01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:04,880
Speaker 1: somebody who did have a weight class title but then

2172
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 1: pop for peds And to what extent you evaluate that?

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01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 1: I will tell you I don't really give a shit

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01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 1: about that, for reasons I articulated at gazillion times. I mean,

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01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:14,880
Speaker 1: it's relevant, but I don't care about it so much

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01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 1: I would go. I mean, the thing is, dude, honestly,

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01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 1: I feel like the current fan base just loves Poorier.

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01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 3: That's a good that's a good legacy, and resume that

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01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:30,600
Speaker 3: a great one, honestly, and better people than many champions.

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01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:33,639
Speaker 1: So here's the problem, dude. The resume for Dila Shaw

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01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:37,320
Speaker 1: is stronger, I feel like because of the high end

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01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 1: achievement he had. But the legacy of Poortier might honestly

2183
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 1: be much better than Dila Shaw's, for because he beat

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01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of really fucking good guys, and you know,

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01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't have any of the ped stuff following him.

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01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 1: So I might go BAC, even though I kind of

2187
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:54,720
Speaker 1: feel like it's BCA. You know.

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01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:57,879
Speaker 3: Interesting, I wondered if you were gonna go a first,

2189
01:46:58,040 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 3: even though obviously he wasn't a champion compared to the

2190
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:04,000
Speaker 3: But like Kamara does not, he is not beloved or

2191
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:07,800
Speaker 3: does he receive the respect that his accomplishments say he

2192
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 3: should agree that's.

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01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 1: True, But dude, for anyone who's literate, it's not even

2194
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 1: a slight to party you. They're not even trying to

2195
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:15,600
Speaker 1: be insulting in any way at all. But like, you

2196
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 1: gotta give Camaro the credit he deserves. He's the He

2197
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 1: was the best fighter in the world.

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01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the best.

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01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 1: He was fucking very good in his prime, you know.

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01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 3: All right. Our final one on oratois these are best

2201
01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 3: to worst. LTI's preferred Genie Bottle wish you only get

2202
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 3: one wish with the bottle. You can get eight hours

2203
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:37,639
Speaker 3: of sleep per night moving forward. You can have normal

2204
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 3: botwel movements moving forward, or you can trade hogs with Rocco.

2205
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 1: Rocco Sefreddi. Is he the one that had the curve joint? No,

2206
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 1: that's not Jovi Doll, so uh, that would absolutely be

2207
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 1: a no. These are all tempting. Definitely gonna throw out

2208
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:53,559
Speaker 1: normal bowel movements because it would just give me less

2209
01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:55,599
Speaker 1: things to talk about. So that's not one that I wanted.

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01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:58,680
Speaker 3: You would be a much better house guest if you

2211
01:47:58,760 --> 01:47:59,599
Speaker 3: had that, right.

2212
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I don't care about being a good house guest.

2213
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:03,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I want to have

2214
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 1: good house guest or good stories. I'll take good stories

2215
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 1: every time, right, Okay, Okay, sorry, Joseph a Bank. Now

2216
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 1: the trading hogs with Rocko, I don't know, Like that's

2217
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: definitely gonna be a fun a fun little thing. However,

2218
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 1: i'd say, you know, I'm gonna go on a limit. Say,

2219
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 1: my wife's probably pretty satisfied for the most part, for you.

2220
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 3: Know, Okay, I don't know if we needed that breakdown.

2221
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, it's not like a thing that oh

2223
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm desperate for, but I am desperate for the eight

2224
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 1: hours of sleepy See. That would be the ultimate fucking

2225
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:43,759
Speaker 1: life hack. I want the eight hours. So I'm gonna

2226
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:46,400
Speaker 1: go A is number one. We'll put C number two,

2227
01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 1: and then normal ballel moments. You could just take that

2228
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 1: off the list completely. I don't give a shit.

2229
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:52,519
Speaker 3: About itay long. Look, could you imagine a well slept,

2230
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 3: happy Luke Thomas every episode?

2231
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 1: Can you imagine?

2232
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 4: I can't even imagine it.

2233
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 1: He's like, I literally can't conceive of you as a

2234
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 1: well slept person.

2235
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 3: There it is. That was the Orange twall right there.

2236
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:08,240
Speaker 3: We're gonna close with our fans segments. Of course, we

2237
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:10,599
Speaker 3: offer the email address for you to contact the show

2238
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:15,000
Speaker 3: of Morningcombat at gmail dot com for your fan subs

2239
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:16,800
Speaker 3: for your dead wrongs. Hey, you want to complain, you

2240
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 3: want to accuse us of something, there's your opportunity even

2241
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 3: up to an including showing in your privates to Mikey.

2242
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 3: So it's available to you at Morningcombat at gmail dot com.

2243
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:29,599
Speaker 3: Let's go with dead wrongs up first. We don't always

2244
01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:31,559
Speaker 3: get it right, but at least we have the guts

2245
01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:33,360
Speaker 3: to stand up to the truth. If you have a

2246
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 3: receipt and you got some balls. This one's called dead wrong,

2247
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 3: dead wrong. Let's see who took the l Antonio writes,

2248
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 3: and he says good night from Portugal. I was just

2249
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 3: listening to the three twenty one post fight recap show

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01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:54,599
Speaker 3: and at one hour, eighteen minutes and forty seconds, Brian

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01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:59,640
Speaker 3: is dead wrong. Aspinall submitted Volkoff with a straight armbar. Yes,

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01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:03,440
Speaker 3: not a ASBC said, chicken wing or americana.

2253
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:06,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, So the reason why you're halfway. I know

2254
01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 1: why you said that is because he didn't submit it

2255
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 1: with it what's going to call it jujigatami, where the

2256
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 1: traditional randa arm bar where it's between your legs. He

2257
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:17,679
Speaker 1: did it where he was kind of diagonal, not side control,

2258
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 1: but diagonal, and then he straightens the arm out and

2259
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 1: then does it where he's kind of bending it with

2260
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:25,559
Speaker 1: his own arms in that way. So it's a different

2261
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:27,559
Speaker 1: kind of arm bar. So I know why you said that,

2262
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:29,879
Speaker 1: But technically you're right. It's he's right, it's.

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01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 3: I'll take that out. I was technically wrong. I couldn't

2264
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 3: think of which arm one it was on that point

2265
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:37,320
Speaker 3: arm bar, but no along Islan Luke is reporting by

2266
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 3: the way that everybody has made weight for UFC warehouse. Okay,

2267
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:44,560
Speaker 3: all right. Also a quick update here Luke long is

2268
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:47,439
Speaker 3: on Luke reporting that seventy five percent of the chat

2269
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:50,920
Speaker 3: has said they like your five scarier punchers better than mine.

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01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Unfortunately, though I went first, so BC could only

2271
01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 1: pick what was available outside of what I picked. But

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01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:02,160
Speaker 1: I do feel like my list is good. Yes, yeah,

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01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:02,599
Speaker 1: there you go.

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01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:05,800
Speaker 3: Our second Dead Wrong comes to us from Christopher, who says, hey,

2275
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 3: I'm a longtime listener here, first time submission for dead Wrong.

2276
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:13,599
Speaker 3: On the October sixth episode, reviewing UFC three twenty at

2277
01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 3: one hour and five minutes, BC said, YERI had now

2278
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 3: improved to eight and oh against everyone in the UFC

2279
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:24,559
Speaker 3: not named Alex Pajeda, you are dead wrong. YERI has

2280
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 3: eight fights in the UFC and is six and oh

2281
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:31,600
Speaker 3: in the UFC when not facing Poeton. This seems like

2282
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 3: something very easy to review if one is not stuffing

2283
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:38,040
Speaker 3: his face with gas station hot dogs and looking like

2284
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:41,720
Speaker 3: the inverse of a Ladies' Night version of Carlos Olberg.

2285
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 3: If I could suggest an excuse, BC, just say your

2286
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:49,120
Speaker 3: eye was looking away from the fact from that fact

2287
01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:52,919
Speaker 3: on your timeline like you're Vienna Jandidoba and you confuse

2288
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 3: this the six for an eight. I do have bad eyes,

2289
01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:58,240
Speaker 3: say hey, BC, next time, let's be more focused on

2290
01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:01,919
Speaker 3: the show prep than keeping track of the Instagram followers

2291
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 3: for the number nine and eleven ranks. Strawweights Wow in

2292
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:09,839
Speaker 3: the Apex Comain event. Keep coming with low with bits

2293
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:12,240
Speaker 3: every show, sorry, not loads as they make my I

2294
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:15,280
Speaker 3: got as they make my day listening to me see

2295
01:52:15,320 --> 01:52:16,800
Speaker 3: I can't read, but yeah, I'll take the l from

2296
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:19,360
Speaker 3: Christopher right there? Oh for two this week, Luke wow,

2297
01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:22,639
Speaker 3: all right? Our third one comes from Joel Hey Luken BC,

2298
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:26,559
Speaker 3: longtime fan, longtime listener, also a nerdy lawyer here, Luke,

2299
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:30,240
Speaker 3: you're dead wrong when you say quote a cumulative damage.

2300
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:36,679
Speaker 3: The correct word is cumulative, not a cumulative. Cumulative equals

2301
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:40,920
Speaker 3: damage that builds up by successive additions. Dictionary dot com

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01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 3: describes cumulative as increasing by successive additions formed by accu accumulation.

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01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 2: Uh.

2304
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:51,439
Speaker 3: That is what happens when Steady jabs, body shots and

2305
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 3: calf kicks out up until the opponent breaks down. But

2306
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:58,240
Speaker 3: accumulative with an A is a real word, but far

2307
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:02,839
Speaker 3: less common. It just means tending to accumulate. Merriam Webster

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01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:06,160
Speaker 3: lists cumulative as the standard word for something resulting from

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01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:10,639
Speaker 3: many additions, while accumulative is listed as a secondary option.

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01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:14,719
Speaker 3: Style guides consistently note that cumulative is the correct choice

2311
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:18,879
Speaker 3: in this context. In short, a fighter wins by cumulative damage,

2312
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:22,760
Speaker 3: not accumulative damage. Don't feel bad, Luke, You've only been

2313
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:26,200
Speaker 3: making this mistake consistently for years, displaying your ignorance on

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01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 3: possibly thousands of occasions. Consider it a true masterclass in

2315
01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:34,479
Speaker 3: cumulative error. Respectfully and with love for the show.

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01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 1: Joel wa, why don't you cumulatively put some licks on

2317
01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:39,000
Speaker 1: my balls?

2318
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:39,519
Speaker 2: How about that?

2319
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 3: So look, he's saying that you're not completely wrong.

2320
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:47,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm not like the way it works in

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01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 1: this kind of world where like what's the most correct option?

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01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:53,240
Speaker 1: And it sounds like what he's saying is the most

2323
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:54,040
Speaker 1: correct option.

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01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:55,759
Speaker 3: So okay, that's wild.

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01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:57,320
Speaker 1: That is so wide, you guess I have to take

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01:53:57,320 --> 01:53:57,759
Speaker 1: that out.

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01:53:58,040 --> 01:53:59,599
Speaker 3: Wow. We had a lot of else today. This one's

2328
01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:01,599
Speaker 3: from an Andrew during have you seen this Shit? On Monday,

2329
01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:03,719
Speaker 3: BC showed the video of the guy putting the chicken

2330
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 3: roller on the hot dogs bun in seven eleven with

2331
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:08,760
Speaker 3: Chili and cheese. He said it was seven eleven over

2332
01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 3: and over again. You would think that someone who has

2333
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:13,920
Speaker 3: eaten so many gas station hot dogs in his life

2334
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:17,639
Speaker 3: would know what seven to eleven looks like. Guess black

2335
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:21,719
Speaker 3: liver affects the brain too. This was clearly a quick trip.

2336
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:24,680
Speaker 3: Is the name of the store down south? Probably the

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Speaker 3: Atlanta area. Luke should have known better. There's like five

2338
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 3: of them within ten miles of the Big Chicken.

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01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:32,480
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what I think about Atlanta. I don't

2340
01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:33,880
Speaker 1: fuck Atlanta. There you go.

2341
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:38,800
Speaker 3: Oh and their chipolte sauce is fantastic. That's Andrew Lay

2342
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 3: giving Lukey a second. A second l Number five comes

2343
01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 3: from luke H and Kevin. Luke H writes Greetings from

2344
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 3: the Welsh Valleys LTNBC on Friday the seventeenth, at thirty

2345
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:55,480
Speaker 3: seven minutes, LT was recanting a list of Kevin Holland's fights,

2346
01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:58,240
Speaker 3: where he brought up one eighty five. LT's aim was

2347
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 3: to compare Holland's success at one seventy versus his failures

2348
01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 3: of a lack of effort at eighty five and the

2349
01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:07,520
Speaker 3: full list at eighty five. LT states Jack Dela Madelena

2350
01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 3: as one of these fights where Holland was drummed out

2351
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 3: by a heavier guy lt. I've added evidence of this fight,

2352
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 3: which was on September sixteenth, twenty twenty three, at one

2353
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:20,400
Speaker 3: seventy that's welts weight. Not only that about was a

2354
01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:25,600
Speaker 3: split decision. I would suggest you should reduce your consumption

2355
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 3: of carbonated caffeinated brain rot and instead look to improve

2356
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 3: your memory retention by reading high level.

2357
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:34,920
Speaker 1: I don't I have to go back and listen. I've

2358
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 1: never internalized that fight as a middleweight fight, but more

2359
01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:45,120
Speaker 1: there was a turning point after it, but I never

2360
01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:48,520
Speaker 1: I've never ever thought JDM was a middleweight, So it

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01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:51,520
Speaker 1: depends on how I articulated it. I'll i'll be grudgingly

2362
01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:52,240
Speaker 1: accept as l.

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01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you lose three to two on today's LS. He

2364
01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 3: closes by saying that you should read high level publications

2365
01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:02,400
Speaker 3: such as the PhD thesis of doctor Mike Israetel.

2366
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 1: Is retel is retel with Love from.

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01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 3: The Valleys a similarly washed dat it's luke h.

2368
01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:11,960
Speaker 1: So Mike is retel BC is a wildly successful or

2369
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 1: was anyway kind of a proprietor of fitness content?

2370
01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:19,600
Speaker 3: Is he a grifter on the moneyberg level?

2371
01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:25,280
Speaker 1: No, no, but someone read his PhD and then audited it,

2372
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:28,840
Speaker 1: and it's like the worst PhD you've ever seen in

2373
01:56:28,960 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 1: thesis in your fucking life.

2374
01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:34,560
Speaker 3: All right, as worse as these face tattoos.

2375
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:37,200
Speaker 1: Luke, it's the equivalent, Okay, PhD equivalent.

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01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 3: Our final segment is called the Opportunity, where you can

2377
01:56:43,080 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 3: put Saul's wife in one of our t shirts or

2378
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 3: send us your artwork. This one's called Fans Admissions. You've

2379
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:56,680
Speaker 3: got mail futures, alrighty. Our first fan sub comes from Kyle,

2380
01:56:56,720 --> 01:56:59,800
Speaker 3: who says, huge fan here listening since twenty twenty, every

2381
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 3: single show just sat for eighteen hours across two days

2382
01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 3: for this tattoo.

2383
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:05,720
Speaker 2: People.

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01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 3: Holy shit, it's not fully finished. The gaps will be

2385
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:11,960
Speaker 3: filled in with white and blue, but I needed a

2386
01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:15,200
Speaker 3: few weeks. Break rate it, please from one.

2387
01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:17,200
Speaker 2: To ten again.

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01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want this tattoo, not that I have anything

2389
01:57:19,120 --> 01:57:20,720
Speaker 1: negative to say about it. It's just not for me.

2390
01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:26,320
Speaker 1: But in terms of just pure raw tattooing, that is fantastic.

2391
01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 1: It's black and gray, but then you got these really

2392
01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:32,200
Speaker 1: bold lightning and blue eyes as you can see in

2393
01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:34,800
Speaker 1: the one on the bottom. I don't know how that

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01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 1: squares with the kind of Pacific Islander tattooing on the

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01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:42,280
Speaker 1: right leg. But again, if we're just evaluating the left BC,

2396
01:57:42,680 --> 01:57:47,360
Speaker 1: I mean tattooing basically basically doesn't get much better. That

2397
01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:51,440
Speaker 1: is very, very very high quality work.

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01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:54,840
Speaker 3: Well done there, Kyle. I'll give it a eight out

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01:57:54,840 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 3: of ten, Luke, Okay, right. Our second fan su comes

2400
01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 3: from Girard, who says the main card minute sighting while

2401
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:08,040
Speaker 3: seeing Cannibal Corps with Municipal Waste, that the Huntington Paramount

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01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:11,200
Speaker 3: in Long Island got a picture of this sticker in

2403
01:58:11,240 --> 01:58:13,760
Speaker 3: the bathroom. I watched the show, I look at that.

2404
01:58:14,360 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 3: I haven't missed one in four years. Thanks for all

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01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 3: the good work Long Island, Luke. You gotta fess up,

2406
01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 3: was that you? Ah?

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01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 4: I love everything about this because I've put up so

2408
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:28,320
Speaker 4: many of these fucking stickers all over the not the world,

2409
01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:31,200
Speaker 4: but you know everywhere, especially in Huntington. And yes, the

2410
01:58:31,200 --> 01:58:34,440
Speaker 4: Paramount men's bathroom is littered with these stickers. Shout out Gerard.

2411
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:36,960
Speaker 4: He saw a fucking cannibal corpse the same weekend I

2412
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:39,320
Speaker 4: saw Ever Clear too, So that's funny.

2413
01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:41,920
Speaker 3: Look, do you like the band municipal waste that.

2414
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:45,640
Speaker 1: Gerard saw not a not a. They're not for me.

2415
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:48,520
Speaker 3: Okay. Do they do Viking rows or not?

2416
01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 1: Not that I'm aware of, but okay, who knows.

2417
01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:54,200
Speaker 3: Thank you Gerard for sending it in. We also heard

2418
01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:56,400
Speaker 3: from Jonas this week, who has a video.

2419
01:58:58,160 --> 01:59:00,520
Speaker 1: All right, enough of this conversation. We should watch porn.

2420
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:07,680
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, that's that's the show.

2421
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:09,919
Speaker 1: And I had to go hat in hand back to Comcast.

2422
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:10,680
Speaker 1: Did I tell you this.

2423
01:59:11,400 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 3: With your gross search history and be like, can you

2424
01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:14,480
Speaker 3: fix this please?

2425
01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:17,000
Speaker 1: It's like, guys, I know that this is really the

2426
01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:19,360
Speaker 1: kind of porn searching that really makes you question your

2427
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:22,040
Speaker 1: own morality. But uh no, I'm serious. I had to

2428
01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:24,640
Speaker 1: go fucking back to them, bro, because I the Verizon thing.

2429
01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 1: I just don't know what to do, so.

2430
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 3: Bitch, yeah, that's what you get for shopping around. You

2431
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:30,720
Speaker 3: should stay loyal.

2432
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I'm a loyal Rising customer for my cell phone.

2433
01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:39,000
Speaker 1: They're great. I love them, but I gotta get go.

2434
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:40,520
Speaker 1: I need some extra help. I'll just put it that.

2435
01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:43,960
Speaker 3: Way, okay, okay. Our final fancy admission comes from a

2436
01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:46,600
Speaker 3: man named John, who says, Luke, I was trying to

2437
01:59:46,640 --> 01:59:51,160
Speaker 3: talk MMA, but I know what was really on Luke's mind.

2438
01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:51,760
Speaker 3: Let's see this.

2439
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:56,000
Speaker 1: Okay, mechanics on the paint brush the Americana were real bad,

2440
01:59:56,160 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 1: which is why it didn't work. Because if the elbow

2441
01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:00,640
Speaker 1: comes up, there's nothing really torking it. It has to the

2442
02:00:00,680 --> 02:00:03,120
Speaker 1: elbow comes up, there's nothing really torking it. It has

2443
02:00:03,160 --> 02:00:06,200
Speaker 1: to be really torking it. It has to come really torking.

2444
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:10,280
Speaker 1: It has to come talking, it has to come.

2445
02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:17,000
Speaker 3: All right, that's probably also accurate. Thank you.

2446
02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 2: What's this?

2447
02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:27,600
Speaker 3: This is also from John who puts yeah, yeah, that

2448
02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:30,440
Speaker 3: is uh, that is what we do here unfortunately on

2449
02:00:30,520 --> 02:00:33,240
Speaker 3: Mondays there, so check out my ship on Mondays. Thank you,

2450
02:00:34,200 --> 02:00:37,040
Speaker 3: thank you very much. Uh, that's it. That's all we

2451
02:00:37,120 --> 02:00:39,120
Speaker 3: got for fansoms. You can reach back out to us

2452
02:00:39,120 --> 02:00:41,720
Speaker 3: in Morning Combat at gmail dot com and we'll take

2453
02:00:41,760 --> 02:00:45,520
Speaker 3: your submissions for next week. Thank you very much. November

2454
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:48,280
Speaker 3: thirteenth is a I believe a Wednesday will be hitting

2455
02:00:48,280 --> 02:00:50,680
Speaker 3: you with UFC three twenty two pregame preview. Don't forget

2456
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:54,040
Speaker 3: that Thursday or wild willis joining us. What was that

2457
02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:54,640
Speaker 3: long island?

2458
02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:55,839
Speaker 4: It's Thursday.

2459
02:00:56,200 --> 02:00:57,000
Speaker 3: It's a Thursday.

2460
02:00:57,000 --> 02:00:59,560
Speaker 1: We'll be there yeah earlier too.

2461
02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:01,880
Speaker 3: Oh that I think that's November thirteenth. Yeah, yeah, that's

2462
02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:04,640
Speaker 3: a Thursday, my bad at eleven am, November thirteenth. Set

2463
02:01:04,680 --> 02:01:07,520
Speaker 3: your watch by it. Finally, this is your last chance

2464
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:11,400
Speaker 3: to get our October exclusives over at Morningcombat dot shop. Yeah,

2465
02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:14,200
Speaker 3: we're talking about super washed dads. We're talking about this

2466
02:01:14,240 --> 02:01:18,000
Speaker 3: great Halloween crossover here of Frank and Luke and Donkey.

2467
02:01:18,280 --> 02:01:21,440
Speaker 3: Get a sign poster, Get the T shirt. It's leaving

2468
02:01:21,480 --> 02:01:24,000
Speaker 3: our website. You'll never see it again unless it's on

2469
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:27,240
Speaker 3: one of your significant others. Also mix and match colors

2470
02:01:27,240 --> 02:01:30,200
Speaker 3: because you can go to our Evergreen section. There's probably

2471
02:01:30,240 --> 02:01:32,720
Speaker 3: some shirts and mugs and baby bibs in there that

2472
02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:35,080
Speaker 3: you didn't even know we had. I probably don't even

2473
02:01:35,120 --> 02:01:37,839
Speaker 3: know we have it. We may sell MK MK rubbers.

2474
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:39,120
Speaker 3: I have no idea do we.

2475
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:43,400
Speaker 4: MK We sold K We're just sold out right now.

2476
02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:44,880
Speaker 4: We normally have them, all right.

2477
02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:48,400
Speaker 3: Because we definitely got that MK jerkins here. Okay, I

2478
02:01:48,520 --> 02:01:52,920
Speaker 3: threw away why Luca's you could use it's a use

2479
02:01:53,040 --> 02:01:53,680
Speaker 3: for it, right?

2480
02:01:55,240 --> 02:01:56,960
Speaker 1: Oh well, I wasn't. It was just sitting on my

2481
02:01:57,600 --> 02:01:59,480
Speaker 1: on my sink. I was like, what the fuck is this?

2482
02:02:00,080 --> 02:02:01,960
Speaker 3: You know, Long Island, Luke and I get the feeling that,

2483
02:02:02,120 --> 02:02:04,720
Speaker 3: you know, whatever you get as a gift from fans

2484
02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:06,440
Speaker 3: of this show goes just right in the garbage.

2485
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:10,280
Speaker 1: Well, I've literally got the dimebag here, Like, what are

2486
02:02:10,280 --> 02:02:12,240
Speaker 1: we talking about? Show my full screen.

2487
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:16,160
Speaker 3: Low al, I was talking about that, MK Jerkins, that's

2488
02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:17,080
Speaker 3: a keepsake for.

2489
02:02:17,080 --> 02:02:20,000
Speaker 1: Life, dude, that was from rich duncle. Fuck.

2490
02:02:21,200 --> 02:02:22,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, remember that's from.

2491
02:02:22,840 --> 02:02:24,120
Speaker 1: I mean, why am I going to keep that?

2492
02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:26,080
Speaker 3: That's not that's a fair points fair.

2493
02:02:26,320 --> 02:02:28,560
Speaker 1: That's not a gift from the audience. That's a you

2494
02:02:28,600 --> 02:02:30,800
Speaker 1: see look at me, Look at you fucking slandering me

2495
02:02:31,640 --> 02:02:34,320
Speaker 1: falsely in front of the audience. I keep everything that

2496
02:02:34,360 --> 02:02:35,320
Speaker 1: I get from the audience.

2497
02:02:36,120 --> 02:02:38,120
Speaker 3: It wasn't you, It wasn't your co host. You said

2498
02:02:38,120 --> 02:02:39,879
Speaker 3: that it was too cheesy.

2499
02:02:40,120 --> 02:02:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, too cheesy. Needs to go to too sleep, motherfucker.

2500
02:02:45,320 --> 02:02:48,760
Speaker 3: We we thank you for watching this program. Uh are

2501
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:50,680
Speaker 3: you going to do a live show Luke this weekend?

2502
02:02:50,720 --> 02:02:51,840
Speaker 3: They can follow your social media?

2503
02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:54,760
Speaker 1: Can you imagine a bigger waste of life than doing that?

2504
02:02:54,880 --> 02:02:57,120
Speaker 3: Right now, let's talk further.

2505
02:02:57,200 --> 02:03:00,720
Speaker 4: It feels like a good segue. I'll be live for

2506
02:03:00,800 --> 02:03:04,520
Speaker 4: the Full Guard tomorrow for PM two. Also, guys, how.

2507
02:03:04,400 --> 02:03:07,800
Speaker 1: Can you justify that to your girlfriend. I'm being dead serious.

2508
02:03:08,240 --> 02:03:11,600
Speaker 4: No, she's working. We're good. Also, new prop quiz dropping

2509
02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:14,480
Speaker 4: in twenty five minutes, we got the much anticipated matchup

2510
02:03:14,520 --> 02:03:17,240
Speaker 4: Aaron Bronstead are taking on Ben the Bain Davis.

2511
02:03:17,320 --> 02:03:19,160
Speaker 1: Oh I bet Ben gets smoked.

2512
02:03:19,400 --> 02:03:21,720
Speaker 4: No, it's actually like a really good matchup all the

2513
02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:23,400
Speaker 4: way through, so definitely too okay.

2514
02:03:23,400 --> 02:03:25,920
Speaker 3: And then the winner faces the winner of another matchup,

2515
02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:29,640
Speaker 3: and then the winner faces me for like Sledo's entire

2516
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:31,120
Speaker 3: savings account.

2517
02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:33,880
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, so the so winner of this episode will

2518
02:03:33,880 --> 02:03:37,320
Speaker 4: face winner of Danny Sigura versus Jose Young's winner of that,

2519
02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:40,200
Speaker 4: we'll get one hundred dollars. Then they face BC for

2520
02:03:40,280 --> 02:03:41,800
Speaker 4: twenty dollars championship matchup.

2521
02:03:41,800 --> 02:03:44,480
Speaker 3: You know, not a bat Wait, how was this championship met?

2522
02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:46,160
Speaker 4: Like this is like a super Fu champion because it's

2523
02:03:46,200 --> 02:03:50,000
Speaker 4: a one off matchup, whereas the bracket you gotta win twenty. Yeah,

2524
02:03:50,040 --> 02:03:51,800
Speaker 4: you gotta win three matchups and win one hundred and

2525
02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:53,360
Speaker 4: one to win twenty. It makes sense to me, It

2526
02:03:53,360 --> 02:03:56,000
Speaker 4: makes sense right well now read shoutout Slato and Eli

2527
02:03:56,040 --> 02:03:56,640
Speaker 4: Steele for both.

2528
02:03:56,680 --> 02:04:01,760
Speaker 3: Hey, either way, you know what I'm saying. Thank you Slito,

2529
02:04:01,880 --> 02:04:04,560
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. All right, lt anything you want

2530
02:04:04,600 --> 02:04:07,560
Speaker 3: to say as you head out to be a hashtag

2531
02:04:07,640 --> 02:04:09,240
Speaker 3: girl dad on the streets of DC.

2532
02:04:09,680 --> 02:04:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make the I'm gonna make the Hawaiian Hawaiian

2533
02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:17,320
Speaker 1: I saying Halloween rum punch. I'm gonna make that this afternoon,

2534
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:20,880
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to try to be a good dad.

2535
02:04:21,040 --> 02:04:22,000
Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes.

2536
02:04:23,080 --> 02:04:26,760
Speaker 3: All comments made today, we're in. Uh, we're made by

2537
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:30,000
Speaker 3: too cheesy, so deal with it.

2538
02:04:30,280 --> 02:04:33,000
Speaker 1: That's a Leah joke. That was that won't caught me

2539
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:33,640
Speaker 1: by surprise.

2540
02:04:33,840 --> 02:04:35,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was peak MK. I mean it was just,

2541
02:04:35,480 --> 02:04:37,720
Speaker 3: you know, one of the best moments ever for my

2542
02:04:37,800 --> 02:04:42,920
Speaker 3: great cat, Reggie Jackson, for Luke Thomas, Long Island, Luke,

2543
02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:44,920
Speaker 3: you know, and the great people behind the scenes. Yeah,

2544
02:04:44,920 --> 02:04:48,120
Speaker 3: I see you, Matt Snyder, everyone here. I want to

2545
02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:50,760
Speaker 3: close this by telling you, of course, that this episode

2546
02:04:50,760 --> 02:04:53,440
Speaker 3: of Morning Combat was brought to you by DraftKings. Hey, DraftKings,

2547
02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:58,600
Speaker 3: the crown is yours, baby, Thank you for watching. Enjoy

2548
02:04:58,680 --> 02:05:02,280
Speaker 3: the weekend safety night out with the kiddos. Uh, take

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Speaker 3: care of yourselves up here down here too, if you

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Speaker 3: can get I mean, if you can you know, he

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Speaker 3: might have to write it's just so it's just so true, though,

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Speaker 3: uh Yo we out of this piece