WEBVTT - Mark Halperin - October 24th, Hour 3 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.360 Well we have come out. 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:03.720 Your city. 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:10.119 One day I get saying your conscience und will be. 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:16.400 Telling. And if you want a little man. 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:17.720 Yin, you ain't come along. 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:20.759 Build the blaze. Who was actually able to make it tonight? 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:22.040 To be honest, he. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:22.920 Was a terrible man. 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:23.560 I don't give it. 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:27.880 If this is comedy, had Pernie Sanders, Dick Cheney, Taylor Swift, 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.120 no no, no, no, no no, no shot having the Cheney's 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:31.480 on board. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:35.160 No, you can't Dick Cheney or Taylor Swift. 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.680 Every time you have somebody is a friend of yours. 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:40.520 You know, somebody said, well you know I'm for Trump, 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:42.040 just so you know what you're voting for. 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:44.200 Do you really want me to go to jail because 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:45.199 that's what you're voting for. 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:57.160 Twelve more days until election day. 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:57.720 Coming. 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:04.600 To your cent, don't get thousand saying you a conscious song. 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:13.040 From coast to coast, from border to border, from c 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:21.319 to Shining Sea. Sean Kennedy is on. Stay right here 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.520 for our final news roundup and information overload. 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:26.920 I do is round up information overload our here's our 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.160 toll free number. It is eight hundred and nine to 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:30.840 four one sewn. If you want to be a part 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.480 of the program. It is election day in America. If 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.640 there's voting going on, that means it's election day. Not 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.560 the system I Love've gone over as many times, but 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:41.720 it's the one we have, the one we're stuck with. 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.680 You want to change systems, you have to win elections first. 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:45.360 Uh. 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:49.520 But anyway, if you're interested registering to vote, how to 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:51.760 do so in your state commonwealth? If you want to 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.440 know when early voting starts or stops. As a public service, 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:58.680 we put all that information on Hannity dot com, Kamala's radicalism, 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.800 extremism in our own words as a public service on 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:05.240 hannaday dot com, Sam Winson walls and feel free to 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:09.480 download it. It's all for free anyway. So Mark Alprin 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:14.440 he has worked for ABC's worked for NBC, and he 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:16.440 used to do a show on Showtimes. Actually was a 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:20.600 fun show, except the one day that John Heilman tried 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.080 to corner me and get me to talk to him, 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:24.240 and I'm like, I'm not talking to you. 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:24.920 Sorry. 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.280 If you wanted an interview called Fox we Are I 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:29.040 might have talked to him for a minute. But it 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:30.519 was a good show. It was kind of interesting, and 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.480 we'll do the behind the scenes of political campaigns leading 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.920 into presidential years, and a big part of the success 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.680 of that show was Mark Halpern. He is one of 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:43.400 the most connected in terms of knowing people on both 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:47.160 sides of the aisle and has impeccable sources, and his 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:50.760 commentary has been making a ton of news lately. In 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.359 the last what thirty six forty eight hours, he made 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:56.000 a lot of news when he said that there is 0:02:56.080 --> 0:03:00.959 information being peddled by people that if in fact it 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.000 would turn out to be true, would probably destroy Donald 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.800 Trump's campaign, and it ain't clarified it. He said, I 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:09.760 don't believe any of it for a minute. This is 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:13.119 the crazy season. And just for the record, I'm being 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:17.880 pedaled stuff like on an hour by hour basis, if 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:21.040 not every half hour. It's insane. People get crazy in 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.160 the final days of these campaigns. They'll probably be fourteen 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:29.560 October surprises between now and November fifth, and you got 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:31.480 to be very careful with the information that people are 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:34.960 pedaling to you. Anyway, we welcome Mark Halper to the program. Sir, 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:36.839 how are you so, I'm delighted to be back. 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:37.240 Thank you. 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:37.480 Now. 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:39.720 You're the editor in chief of this new interactive video 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:43.120 platform called two Way, and you do it with Sean 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.720 Spicer and you're getting you're making a ton of news. 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:50.480 Can we start with what you were referring to when 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.600 you said you were being pedled information, which I think 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:57.360 anybody that has any association in the news business, even 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:01.040 a member of the press and a person in talk 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.200 show hos like myself guess that kind of calls every day. 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:04.520 Yeah. 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:06.280 And my point of raising it was not to be 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.480 provocative and sort of teasing. It was to say, because 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:13.040 two Ways about transparency and about letting citizens understand how 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:17.080 things work, that this stuff's being pedled, and it's being 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.919 pedeld about Donald Trump, about Kamala Harris, and in the 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.400 in the age the information digital age and the age 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:25.200 of the deep fake, you never know what's real. And 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:29.320 some organizations, I won't say news organizations, they just shovel 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.719 stuff right into publication. And the danger is, we know 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.080 it's asymmetrical. One side has the dominant media, and so 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.599 they can orchestrate, Hey, get this piece in the Atlantic 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.960 and then get it on NBC News and CBS News 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.839 and and that's a way to try to dominate the 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.240 news and create a what i'd call maybe a synthetic 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.080 October surprise in the case. 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:49.840 Well that that didn't really work out well for them, 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:50.200 did it. 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:54.000 Well, it's great question. They switched to this new message, 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:55.920 which is really the old message that Joe Biden was 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:59.880 running on. What's the metric of success? They got a 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.800 story and then we're able to use that story to 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:07.560 have public events and press conferences and public statements and 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:11.320 then dominate certain parts of the news. Although when they 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:14.359 check the battleground state media, the local TV stations that 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.159 the newspapers know, they're not interested in that story. So 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.000 I think history will probably record, if she sticks with 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.679 this message, that they did it at a desperation because 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.400 the other stuff wasn't working. But this probably won't either. 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.920 But the point is they did dominate the news. They 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.799 did take advantage of a pet old story. 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.880 And is there any one story that you specifically have 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.920 in mind that you believe would just stay. I mean, 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.440 I can't believe we're talking about this. Thirteen days Donald 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.479 Trump spent on the on the public stage thirteen days 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:51.279 before an election is an explosive news something. I mean, 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:52.680 it sounds bizarre to me. 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:56.440 The story that I had in mind, what I said 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.280 was if it were true, it would destroy his campaign. 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:00.680 But I don't I didn't. I think it was true 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.240 and based on the nature being pedaled, But I also 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.480 know it's pedal to one of the most important newspapers 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.719 in America. And I don't know whether they took it 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:11.520 seriously or not, but someone had the capacity to pelot them. 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:15.080 I'd say this Sean in two thousand, George W. Bush, 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.279 You've been son of a president run for governor of 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:21.719 Texas twice. Fock story about d UoT. How could the 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.640 text press corps have How could the DNC have never 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:28.040 uncovered that? So I don't think it's impoppable, particularly regarding 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.800 Kamla Harris. Less likely for Donald Trump because he was 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:34.000 president and has run three times. But I'm sure. I'm 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:36.520 just I know there's stuff about her that's never come actual. 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:38.839 That's the nature of the Beast. But at the same time, 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:40.880 what I was trying to say to people is you 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.120 have to be on guard. Just because something shows up 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:46.760 in the Guardian or the Daily Beast, or the Times 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:48.640 of India or even the New York Times of the 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:52.200 Atlantic magazine. You cannot just say, oh, that's definitely true. 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:55.680 You can't assume that because something got published that it's 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:59.080 definitely true because of the nature of not just partisan media, 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:00.599 but people looking first scoop. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.960 One thing that we both are analyzing, because I could 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:07.600 tell from your commentary are early vote numbers, and we're 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:11.320 comparing them to twenty twenty and twenty sixteen, and there 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:14.880 is no doubt the early voting in the swing states 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.720 looks especially good for Donald Trump. If you look at 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.040 the Real Clear Politics average of polling. You know, Donald 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.480 Trump four years ago, I think on this date, I 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.360 have the number somewhere here in front of me, was 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.560 down either seven or eight points something like that, and 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.160 was down I think four and a half points around 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.160 that number in the battleground states. He's now up in 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:38.000 the battleground states by a point, and even on a 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:40.640 national level, it's a zero point two race. I mean, 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.680 you know, four years ago, very different story. But we 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:47.520 get early voting data and they know who's voting Republicans, 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:51.080 Democrats and all these swing states. And you made the 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.000 comment that the early vote looks very good for Republicans 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:59.200 and that if this trend continues, this election may be 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.080 over before election day actually gets here. 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.360 Yeah, I mean, you got to punch the IF right, 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.040 it may not continue, and Democrats argue that it won't. 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.520 What I'm saying is, first of all, you need another 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:12.200 caveat besides the IF, which is twenty twenty was a 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.560 freaky year because of COVID and twenty sixteen is ancient history, 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:19.600 and midterms are not presidentials. So we're dealing with a tangerine, 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.679 an armadillo, and an apple to try to compare these things. 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.680 But what you can say for sure is that Democrats 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:29.160 have become highly reliant on going into election day with 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.600 a big lead, knowing that while they're better at early vote, 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.080 Republicans swamp them on election day. And what I said, 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.800 and I stand by it despite some criticism, is that 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.200 if the numbers we saw in the first few days, 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.200 and it's continued so far and what I call the 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.559 early early vote, but if the late early vote continues 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.320 along these lines, I think people will rightly look at 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.720 the data going into election day and say, look how 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:56.000 many Republicans voted early, Look how many Democrats did. Look 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:59.800 at Democrats' performance on election day, typically you'd say there's 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:01.720 just no way they're going to make up for the gap. 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:05.959 And whether that's because of natural organic enthusiasm to vote 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.199 for Donald Trump and vote out Kamala Harris, or whether 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.679 the Trump campaign actually has a better field operation then 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.200 they let people let on people you know have come 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.840 to think they do. Whatever the combination isn't You can't 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.720 deny the current data. It's overwhelming, and it eats into 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.319 the Republican deficit that they had if they're going to 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.160 lose the early vote number, but if the delta of 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.760 this cycle compared to twenty twenty, it continues along these lines. 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.280 As I said, we'll wake up on election day, We'll 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.600 look at the early vote numbers, whether it's absentee ballots 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.640 or early voting in person or drop box, and we'll say, 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.480 it's just impossible that Democrats are going to make up 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.840 these these are hold to the lead that they have, 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.000 given how Republicans tend to perform on election day. 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:53.920 It's like a twenty two point swing in Pennsylvania, for example, 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.319 as of the latest numbers that I saw. I don't 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.800 know what you're saying. Let me play a clip of 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.000 you saying that you're talking to Democrats and this is 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:02.920 what they're telling you. 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.920 I'm going to tell you what I know. Lots going 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.600 on and today to me was kind of the breakpoint day. 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:13.240 Things are very tense. Now I'm for America, I don't 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.600 I don't have a candidate in this race, and I'm 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:18.640 doing my best to try to make sure the country 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.640 comes out of this election as united as we can be, 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.040 regardless of the outcome. As always every day ask you 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.040 imagine how you'll handle it if your candidate loses. But 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:28.000 things are quite tense. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:28.760 This morning. 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:30.720 We talked on the program about the fact that the 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.160 early vote looks very good for Republicans, not that they're 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:34.840 going to win the early vote, but that the delta 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.040 is going to be small enough if it stays on 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:40.200 this trajectory that election day would be anti climactic. That 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.720 Democrats are going to have to do better, and they 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:46.120 say they will. Dan and I have asked democrats, say 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.360 we're talking to Democrats. They're telling us things don't look good. 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.280 If you want to dispute that point to some public data, 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.319 we're not suppressing anything. We'd love to. We always want 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:55.280 to present a full story. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.280 Is more anecdotal evidence just to add what you said there, 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:00.920 because I'm seeing the same thing, and that is why 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.800 is Bob Casey running away? From Kamala Harrison trying to 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.040 sound like a Trump supporter. And you see the same 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.559 thing with Shared Brown, and you see the same thing 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.920 in the Senate race in Michigan, for example. 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.760 What are your thoughts, Well, there's a lot of tell's 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:16.760 going on right now, and they're all in one direction. 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.520 First of all, Kamala Harris switched her message. You don't 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.240 switch your message if you think you have a winning message. 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:27.120 What you cited. You know, the conflict, just the logical 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:29.600 conflict between the person at the top of the ticket 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:33.280 saying the guy loves Hitler and then the Senate Democratic 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:37.040 candidates wh are imperiled saying, hey, Hitler and I agree, 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.920 we agree on fracking, we agree on trade. That's a 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.360 hard that's a hard thing for the party to be 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.040 unified about it. If she's going to be running down Donald Trump, 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.920 it's the core message of hers and her senate partner 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.600 in Pennsylvania and elsewhere are going to be saying, we're 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.600 bragging about working with Trump. And then you know, I'm 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:59.960 I'm no scientists or psychiatrists, but watched cable and watched 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.760 Democratic pundits. Now they're making up different excuses. They're blaming 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:05.800 you know, they're saying Biden stayed in too long. 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:10.040 Oh my god, they're lashing out. I mean, it's like unbelievable. Yeah, 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:14.360 so they're lecturing African American men, they're calling a misogynist 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.040 and sexist. I'm like, oh my gosh. 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.880 And here's one of the biggest tells. Right today, after 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:23.000 spending four days courting young black men to try to 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:26.000 win back enough vote to win today, who do they 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:27.920 have at on the trail? They have at all these 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.960 prominent Black American figures, male figures with her in Atlanta, 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:35.400 with her husband in I forget where he is, North Carolina. 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:39.040 Maybe they clearly recognize that this is something they have 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.199 to work on it, and the press barely covers it. 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.280 Imagine if Donald Trump were out there doing day after 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:47.440 day events trying to win back evangelical Christians or pro 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:51.240 life activists. It's just it's an asymmetrical situation, and it's 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.839 another tell. It doesn't mean Trump's definitely going to win, 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:57.160 but it does parallel not just the public and private 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.760 polling data, in the early vote data, but it matches 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.600 the mood in these campaigns, which, again, you don't need 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:06.960 to be a psychiatrist to read the body language and 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.640 say they think they recognize they have a problem. And 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.640 you go back to there's a reason why Joe Biden 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:16.560 said he couldn't give up the slot because it would 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.680 go to her and she couldn't win. There's a reason 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.160 why Nancy Pelosi didn't want her to be the nominee. 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.160 Doesn't mean she can't win. It doesn't mean that she 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:29.479 hasn't improved somewhat in some areas. But if she does lose, people. 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:32.720 Say, was that an improvement last night on CNN? Because 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:33.600 I thought it was awful? 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.680 It all it was horrible, and Democrats know it's horrible, 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.040 and they also look at the clock and say, you know, 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.240 when she was that horrible two weeks ago, we could say, well, 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.760 should get better. But time's kind of up, not just 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.760 because the elections in less than two weeks, but because 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:48.400 that was our last tenth pole event. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:50.839 All right, quick break right back, more with Mark Halper 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.680 on the other side than your calls coming up eight 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.560 hundred and nine to four one Sean. As we continue, 0:13:56.600 --> 0:14:00.800 it's election day in America. Twelve days till the official 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.720 election day, but when there's voting in America, it's election day. 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:07.000 We'll continue. All right, We continue now with Mark calpern Is, 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.960 with us analyzing the state of the race with just 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.719 twelve days till election day, although every day is now 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.360 election day. If there's early voting going on, you know 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.280 what's saddenness. And it's interesting because I really don't know 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.800 where you stand politically. I thought you did slant left. 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.600 I did because I just thought the circus did, and 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.200 I thought it was a great show. Though it was 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:30.080 a really good show. No, I appreciate that, and you know, 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:34.000 I believe when you believe that you in what you're saying. 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.520 If that's your position, I respect it, and I know 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:39.640 you have great sources in both Republican and Democratic circles. 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:42.440 There's no disputing that. This is when I said in 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.000 two thousand and seven and eight, journalism is dead. They're 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:49.040 so repulsively, abusively biased. To me, I'm honest about being 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:53.000 a conservative in the media, They're not honest. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:56.080 I don't need to be a conservative to say what 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.920 you say, because it's patently true that I said it 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.040 my whole career, even when I worked at places that 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:06.480 were liberally biased. The level of liberal bias is massive, 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.600 and it creates an unlevel playing field. It doesn't mean 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:13.080 Republicans can't win. George W. Bush Donald Trump both won 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:16.240 with unleveled playing fields. But it is part of why 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.080 Donald Trump does well because the country can see it. 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.240 And just look at the cover up of Biden's loss 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:26.040 of mental acuity, and after it was exposed, not one 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:30.240 news organization that participated in the conspiracy said, oops, we 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:32.120 better explain to people how that happened. 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.920 They pretend I felt like a voice in the wilderness 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.320 playing a clip a night for crying out loud. Yeah, 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:42.000 I mean, and in the beginning was excoriated from pointing 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:42.400 it out. 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:47.280 Yeah, so I agree with you. The bias is pronounced. 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.800 But I also and I said this to my friend's liberal. 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:54.160 In the liberal media, you're helping Trump win. It's the 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:57.800 ultimate irony. You want Trump to lose, and you're helping 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:01.000 him win because your coverage is only appealing to the 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.880 people already against him and the backlatch. I talk to 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.040 people on two way all the time who say I'm 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.400 voting for Trump because the lawfair in the media. I 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:11.720 don't like Trump, you know, I'm worried about him being president, 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:15.680 but we have to stand up for law fair liberal 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.920 media woke. We just have to do it. And that's 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.280 been the pattern for ten years now. 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:25.200 It's scary times too. Two you know, two would be assassins, 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:29.280 one assassination attempt one very close. You've become one of 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.880 the more most interesting people to follow during this election 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.480 and I do appreciate your commentary and we're going to 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:38.440 continue to have you back on if you're available. We 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:39.280 appreciate your time. 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.120 Mark Helper Don, thank you lov being on. 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.880 Thank you, eight hundred ninety four one, Shawns number. You 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.119 want to be a part of the program. 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.640 Ladies and gentlemen, we like to take a second to 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:54.000 hear the immortal Bob Grant's thoughts about the world today. 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:58.000 Hey, ladies and gentlemen, is sick. He is getting sicker. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.800 Now I'll back to the Sean Show. 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.600 It's getting it's sick and it's getting sicker. No doubt 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.040 about a twenty five Now to the top of the hour, 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.160 toll free on numbers eight hundred and ninety four one 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.000 Sean if you want to be a part of the program. 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:15.240 It is election day in many states and commonwealths around 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.840 the country, although some are going to have early voting 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.719 coming to an end in just a couple of days. 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.880 We have all of this information as a public service 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:28.159 on Hannity dot com about registration, about early voting, when 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.960 it starts, when it stops, wherever you live, if you 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.879 are interested, We have the Kamala files that the state 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:38.080 run media mob will never play for you throughout the 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:43.920 whole campaign. 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What's going on? 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:55.040 Well, thanks for taking my call first of all. But anyways, 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.760 I was calling because God, I can't wait for the 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:01.440 selection to be over. All the ads that are nothing 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:05.400 but lies, and all the money that they spent going 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:09.959 to Twitter, webinars, in the FBI, the CIA getting them 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:13.640 to take Trump off for false information and whatever else 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:16.239 they could dream up. But they're doing the same thing 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.520