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Speaker 1: Elijah Wood where we discussed everything from Ted Bundy to
Speaker 1: genre horror films and of course Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 1: Here's a clip from the podcast. Who destroys the Ring? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean technically? Yeah. He wasn't quite sure how to
Speaker 1: answer that, Well, what happened? Well, you have to listen
Speaker 1: to the podcast because I want to know who destroyed
Speaker 1: the ring? And he gave me a technically and then
Speaker 1: I said, I don't care about technically. Elijah also talked
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Speaker 1: to get the part. But he loves his horror films
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Speaker 1: lot of fun and I'm sure that. And I wondered
Speaker 1: if if he had talked to Daniel Ratcliffe of Harry
Speaker 1: Potter that you are when you when you think of
Speaker 1: Elijah would or you think of Daniel Ratcliffe, you think
Speaker 1: of those those those movies, and do you embrace it? Um,
Speaker 1: you're going to be defined by this. You're always going
Speaker 1: to be known for that. And he said that they
Speaker 1: actually had a conversation about it. But he said, Daniel Ratcliffe,
Speaker 1: Who's Harry Potter. That's basically his entire adolescence. He grew
Speaker 1: up as Daniel Ratcliffe, grew up as Harry Potter. Elijah
Speaker 1: Wood said, Look, I was Frodo for four years basically,
Speaker 1: so I had it at at the end of my
Speaker 1: teenage years and he had it through his adolescence. Yeah. Point.
Speaker 1: Elijah was also in that good movie Green Street who again, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Back in the day, NFL films would do a half
Speaker 1: hour movie about each team's season, and even when the
Speaker 1: team was bad, they'd always end up in a hopeful note.
Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers were oh and fourteen, but their
Speaker 1: future looks bright, as bright as the Florida's sun. They
Speaker 1: always found something. I'm not sure they'd be able to
Speaker 1: find something promising with the twenty twenty one Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: They may have lost Hall of Fame defensive in JJ Watson,
Speaker 1: quarterback Deshaun Watson isn't playing, but at least they have
Speaker 1: a nice stadium. Some of this, oh, some of this
Speaker 1: isn't their fault, but the Texans haven't done a great
Speaker 1: job in communicating their plan to the public, and maybe
Speaker 1: they feel like they don't have to. But those are
Speaker 1: your season ticket holders. I mean, Tyrod Taylor, there's a
Speaker 1: band aid quarterback and he can come in and he
Speaker 1: can win some games, not that they want to. Not
Speaker 1: a lot of talent on the roster, and it's really
Speaker 1: hard to see any reason to be optimistic in Houston.
Speaker 1: And you can say, well, you're gonna get some draft
Speaker 1: picks for Deshaun Watson eventually eventually, and you're gonna get
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. Okay, if you said, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna put you through this and we're gonna give
Speaker 1: you Spencer Rattler out of Oklahoma and we're gonna get
Speaker 1: some draft picks. Okay, that's not Trevor Lawrence. But I
Speaker 1: think Houston fans need to at least have an answer.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just want to know we're in it together.
Speaker 1: You know, that's seventy six ers said to their fans,
Speaker 1: this is the process. We're in it together. We understand
Speaker 1: what's going on Cleveland Cavaliers when they tank to get
Speaker 1: Lebron James, all right, we understand this. With the Texans,
Speaker 1: what is the game plan? I mean, you got a
Speaker 1: coach David Culley, who hasn't coached before, and he's an
Speaker 1: older coach, what is considered an older coach by his contemporaries.
Speaker 1: And how long is he in there for? So what
Speaker 1: are the big moves you're going to do? What can
Speaker 1: you do? If anything? And you've got a quarterback who's
Speaker 1: a top five quarterback, who's not playing, who's healthy, who's
Speaker 1: on the roster, but he's not going to play against
Speaker 1: Jacksonville crazy. Yeah, and they had the one thing that
Speaker 1: every team wants, a young, great quarterback who's under contract
Speaker 1: long term. Yeah, and they can't play him yeah or
Speaker 1: won't Yeah. By the way, there is there's conflicting reports
Speaker 1: on the taunting penalty. J. C. Treder is the head
Speaker 1: of the NFL Players Association. He's the president of the
Speaker 1: NFL Player Association. He said that the NFL's Rich McKay
Speaker 1: was wrong about the NFLPA wanting the new taunting emphasis.
Speaker 1: In fact, he says he wants it gone. Rich McKay
Speaker 1: is the head of the NFL's Competition Committee, and he
Speaker 1: recently said that the league made the taunting rule a
Speaker 1: point of emphasis at the request of the NFL Players Association. Well.
Speaker 1: JC Trader, plays for the Browns, said yesterday the union
Speaker 1: didn't ask for an emphasis on the enforcement of the
Speaker 1: taunting rule. In fact, he says, I can assure you
Speaker 1: as an attendee of the Competition Committee meeting myself, that
Speaker 1: was not the case. Trader said, on the contrary, we
Speaker 1: would support removing the removal of the point of emphasis immediately.
Speaker 1: How do we get that wrong or how do we
Speaker 1: have one side saying Yep, players wanted this, and then
Speaker 1: what And then the players go, we don't want this.
Speaker 1: In fact, we want to get rid of this rule.
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like the players would go, yes, let's
Speaker 1: get rid of taunting. They're the ones taunting. The owners
Speaker 1: probably don't want this. Oh it's a bad look, you know,
Speaker 1: the commissioners probably, Hey, guys, a bad look. I mean,
Speaker 1: is it a rampant problem where you go, oh my god?
Speaker 1: All right, and what is taunting anymore? Yeah? Seton. If
Speaker 1: there's one thing that I know for sure, though, is
Speaker 1: that players in the NFL want more obscure rules that
Speaker 1: can possibly go against them randomly. I know for sure
Speaker 1: that that's what the players are pushing for. Ye wait, wait,
Speaker 1: I got fine for what I got. I got penalized
Speaker 1: for what for? What? What do I say? Exactly? Let's
Speaker 1: leave this open to interpretation. How about another rule open
Speaker 1: to interpretation? Want more gray area us? Yeah? What could
Speaker 1: go wrong? Yes, when they up those big screens in
Speaker 1: the end zone so they could all do their dances
Speaker 1: and pose, that's not taunting these long theatrical Broadway show
Speaker 1: things that they do now right in front of a TV.
Speaker 1: And could take a little selfie of themselves. What is
Speaker 1: that call? And the NFL put up those TV's, sure
Speaker 1: it did to allow you to do that. You have
Speaker 1: to look away taunt. Now when you get up from
Speaker 1: the pile or whatever. After a second, you can't stand
Speaker 1: over the quarterback and taunt. You have to turn your
Speaker 1: back to the quarterback and shun whilst taunting. So a
Speaker 1: no look taunt exactly. I like it, Yes, I do.
Speaker 1: Remember the year Cam Newton was fifteen one to one MVP.
Speaker 1: A couple of guys took exceptions. Remember one time a
Speaker 1: Titans linebacker flew in from the sideline and attack Cam
Speaker 1: in the middle of the stands like that does well
Speaker 1: when he did the Superman in the end zone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're a professional. This is theater. It's entertainment. I know
Speaker 1: it feels like life and death, but I think the
Speaker 1: players understand that this is part of the sport now,
Speaker 1: whether you like it or not. I remember when I
Speaker 1: was growing up that you might have. Isaac Curtis was
Speaker 1: a Bengals wide receiver, and I remember when Isaac Curtis
Speaker 1: would score a touchdown, he would drop the ball over
Speaker 1: his shoulder. It was spectacular because he didn't have to
Speaker 1: do anything that was demonstrative. It was just a here,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave you in my week, and by the way,
Speaker 1: here's the football I just scored a touchdown on. It
Speaker 1: was to me the best end zone celebration I ever
Speaker 1: saw because it got the message. You got the message.
Speaker 1: It was simplistic, but it was not something that was egregious.
Speaker 1: It was just like, let me just up this. I
Speaker 1: don't need this anymore. Just drop it right there. Then
Speaker 1: you had, you know, the fun bunch with the Washington Redskins.
Speaker 1: You had you know, group group celebrations. Now I'm not
Speaker 1: big on group celebrations. An individual does it. You want
Speaker 1: to score, that's great. There's certain times when if you
Speaker 1: go in from one yard out, you can't make it
Speaker 1: seem like he ran ninety nine yards. But you want
Speaker 1: to celebrate. It's about emotion. It's a sport that's about emotion.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it. But you know, for the NFL
Speaker 1: to go no taunting, what is taunting? Did you see
Speaker 1: there was a minor leaguer who got ejected after hitting
Speaker 1: a home run. He hit a home run and as
Speaker 1: he goes around third base, he says something to the
Speaker 1: third base coach. He crosses home plate and the umpire goes,
Speaker 1: you're gone. I've never seen it before. The third base
Speaker 1: coach and he checked as soon as he got to
Speaker 1: home plate, touched home plate, the empire goes, you're gone.
Speaker 1: I know we're trying to protect our children. I get it,
Speaker 1: you know, from dancing, protecting dancing, don't dance. Part of
Speaker 1: the problem is the grown ups. We need to protect
Speaker 1: our kids from the grown ups who are their coaches
Speaker 1: or managers. Yeah, you never see like a bunch of
Speaker 1: eight year olds fighting at a youth football game. It's
Speaker 1: a thirty seven year old Dade with a visor on.
Speaker 1: Yes time. Well, you look at the NFL Lore and
Speaker 1: NFL the Icky shuffle, Billy White shows Johnson. I think
Speaker 1: Butch Johnson did the thing. We pretended he was taking
Speaker 1: a couple of guns out of his house. There's all
Speaker 1: these fun little things that aren't you know, I can
Speaker 1: understand the throat slash you know, have there. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe that's uncalled for it, But all those things would
Speaker 1: be taunting now. But the reason why we remember them
Speaker 1: and we look back fondly as we were kids at
Speaker 1: the time. Now, the grown ups they are looking at
Speaker 1: this going, well, we don't need that in the sport.
Speaker 1: If you ask kids that, the kids don't care. If
Speaker 1: they you know, your team changes uniforms, but we are
Speaker 1: older were like, how can you do that? You know,
Speaker 1: why are you changing colors? And You're kids don't care,
Speaker 1: like they just they want to watch, they want to
Speaker 1: be on their devices, they have their fantasy teams. It's
Speaker 1: it's the grown ups who want to tell us or
Speaker 1: tell them how to think. You're not supposed to like this,
Speaker 1: and I like it. You're not supposed to. Back in
Speaker 1: my day, you know, Barry Sanders handed the football to
Speaker 1: the official all right, And Barry told me the reason
Speaker 1: why because he has no rhythm. He couldn't dance. He said,
Speaker 1: I didn't have any celebration, so I just gave the
Speaker 1: football back like we give him credit. Like, man, that's
Speaker 1: the way you do it. That's that's a pro. That's
Speaker 1: a pro's pro right there. Yeah. I went back and
Speaker 1: watched that clip. It's from twenty fifteen. Cam Newton scores
Speaker 1: a really tough touchdown and then he starts dancing and
Speaker 1: dabbing in the end zone and one of the linebackers
Speaker 1: from the Titans that gets upset and gets in his face,
Speaker 1: and he's trying to like get Cam to fight. Cam
Speaker 1: instead starts dancing in his face like a Julia Stiles movie.
Speaker 1: It's like a dancing throwdown, and it's making them even
Speaker 1: more man because Cam, instead of losing a school, just
Speaker 1: starts like shimming in front of the guy's face. The
Speaker 1: guy's by the way, Tom Brady is a get off
Speaker 1: my guy. He does not like the teams players are
Speaker 1: able to change their jersey numbers. Here's Tom yesterday we
Speaker 1: talk about jersey numbers too. I could get on that.
Speaker 1: I feel pretty strongly about that. Anyway, I don't want
Speaker 1: to get into it. I've already talked and nausea about it.
Speaker 1: I think it's a stupid rule just to be to
Speaker 1: put it out there one more time. I think he
Speaker 1: was having a little bit of fun there. But I
Speaker 1: do think that he's saying, Look, you're getting used to
Speaker 1: certain numbers, number schemes with defenses and defensive players, and
Speaker 1: so it's going to take a little bit of getting
Speaker 1: used to. I'm gonna guess Brady is going to be
Speaker 1: able to overcome this hurdle. But you know, he did
Speaker 1: say that it's a big deal. Yes, I think this
Speaker 1: is the year Tom Brady throws a career record interceptions,
Speaker 1: and part of it is because of the number thing. Wow,
Speaker 1: you're already building in an excuse for Tom. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's necessarily an excuse. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: Tom will say that's the excuse. Yes, time, as long
Speaker 1: as the other team's wearing a different color than your jersey,
Speaker 1: should be able to ultimately figure it out without worrying
Speaker 1: whether they have a twelve or sixty three or a
Speaker 1: fifty four on. Okay, but remember Jamis Winston, didn't he
Speaker 1: have problems with the colors of the other team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not that easy, you know, or if you're color blind.
Speaker 1: At least that was his excuse. If you're going to
Speaker 1: a game this weekend, by the way, get ready for
Speaker 1: what will feel like the NFL's TSA experience. This is
Speaker 1: going to feel like you're going on a trip and
Speaker 1: you go through security and certain things that you're going
Speaker 1: to have to have, you know, got to verify COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen vaccination. Guests ages twelve and older will be required
Speaker 1: to display one of the following before going into the stadium.
Speaker 1: An official CDC issued vaccination card with your name and
Speaker 1: dates of doses. A photo or digital version of an
Speaker 1: official CDC issue card vaccination card with your name or
Speaker 1: dates of doses, including the date of the last dose,
Speaker 1: and that is printed on the card. Fans can also
Speaker 1: upload their proof of vaccination to Clear Health Pass in
Speaker 1: the Clear app for verification. In other words, build in
Speaker 1: some time when you're going to go through security, because
Speaker 1: they're I mean, this is just different. This is going
Speaker 1: to be a different time and what they expect, what
Speaker 1: they're asking from you. But the entry process documentation people
Speaker 1: are gonna know. They're going to be trained people at
Speaker 1: the gate and they're going to know what they're looking for.
Speaker 1: If something isn't lined up, fans are going to get
Speaker 1: turned away. Like we talk about the players and COVID,
Speaker 1: and there's going to be teams that lose their star
Speaker 1: players or you know, any player for that and it's
Speaker 1: going to happen this year. But you're not guaranteed of
Speaker 1: getting in if you go to a football game, you know,
Speaker 1: unlike tickets that come the scannable bar codes that you
Speaker 1: know they use that obviously, it reduces fraud in the system.
Speaker 1: The vaccination and testing documentation is going to be a
Speaker 1: matter of passing an eyeball test with that person at
Speaker 1: the gate to let you in. Just be ready for that.
Speaker 1: Don't be surprised if you go to a stadium and
Speaker 1: you go, wait a minute, I didn't know that, or
Speaker 1: I'm not getting in because I don't have proper documentation.
Speaker 1: It's going to happen. We'll take a break, get some
Speaker 1: phone calls in here, and coming up next the head
Speaker 1: coach of the Presbyterian Blue Hose. They had they put
Speaker 1: up eighty four points over the weekend. Their quarterback in
Speaker 1: Michigan transfer through ten touchdown passes. But the reason why
Speaker 1: we're going to have coach Kelly on is because he
Speaker 1: never punts. When he was in high school. I think
Speaker 1: he won nine state titles. Bill Belichick was curious about,
Speaker 1: you know, some of the things that he does. Can
Speaker 1: this work at a higher level? Press materion? I think
Speaker 1: is a Division one now. I think they applied for
Speaker 1: that a couple of years ago. I do think they're
Speaker 1: Division one. But Presbyterian College head football coach Kevin Kelly
Speaker 1: on why he never punts in a game. It's seventeen
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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and the Cowboys taking on Tom Landry and
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. Phone calls coming up. Presbyterian beats Saint Andrews
Speaker 1: over the weekend. You might not have noticed, although Presbyterians
Speaker 1: quarterback of Michigan transferred through ten touchdown pass and the
Speaker 1: reason why the game caught our eye is the head
Speaker 1: coach at Presbyterian is Kevin Kelly. And we covered this
Speaker 1: story a couple of years ago where coach never punted.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he has a punter on
Speaker 1: his team, and we thought, okay, he made his college
Speaker 1: debut and certainly made an impact with eighty four forty
Speaker 1: three win over Saint Andrew's and coach joins us, you
Speaker 1: gave up forty three points though coach. I mean, eighty
Speaker 1: four you scored, but you still gave up forty three. No,
Speaker 1: we did. We've got a lot of work to do
Speaker 1: on both sides, to be honest. But our games are
Speaker 1: kind of like that because we shorten the field a lot.
Speaker 1: If we don't make a fourth down in a bad spot,
Speaker 1: the field shorter. If we on site gig don't get at,
Speaker 1: the field shorter. So it usually ends up a little
Speaker 1: higher scoring games. Do you have a puncher on your squad?
Speaker 1: There was one year when I came and he transfer.
Speaker 1: I know that people always asked me what was going
Speaker 1: to happen if I became a college coach. I'd never thought.
Speaker 1: It was always a joke, and then it really kind
Speaker 1: of happened. But a transfer. Okay, But didn't you Have
Speaker 1: you changed anything since you've gone from high school to college? No? No,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, and think about it. You know,
Speaker 1: you've moved up in the world. If you change anything
Speaker 1: that got you there, you feel like if it goes bad,
Speaker 1: you'll be always mad at yourself, Like, you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't do what got me here. And you know, I
Speaker 1: think all the success and I think I've got math
Speaker 1: and science behind it I think it proved it. So
Speaker 1: I was gonna do what I believe in, because it
Speaker 1: isn't that what we're supposed to do for our guys
Speaker 1: on the field, make the decisions we believe in. It
Speaker 1: gives them the best chance. But what was the reaction
Speaker 1: when you did this in high school? Like when you
Speaker 1: people realize you weren't going to punt? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: at first there was some booze from our own crowd,
Speaker 1: and then you know, and then there was you know,
Speaker 1: the media was writing bad things about it and negative
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of naysayers, and then you know,
Speaker 1: as we started winning, those kind of went away. And
Speaker 1: then I had to deal with the coaches because I
Speaker 1: would go to coaches clinics and coaches would sit away
Speaker 1: from me like I had leprosy or something because they
Speaker 1: were like, you're making a mockery of our game. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just trying to win at a school
Speaker 1: that had never won anything, you know, and I have
Speaker 1: to do something different because I think I'm a good
Speaker 1: football coach. I think I'm really good at some things.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you can find an advantage somewhere else,
Speaker 1: even if it's just a little one here and there.
Speaker 1: Those add up. I call it the casino theory. A
Speaker 1: one and a half percent advantage at blackjack and a
Speaker 1: point eight in craps, and they always win. So if
Speaker 1: we can do that and give ourselves a little edge
Speaker 1: by just making better decisions, and it works. So I
Speaker 1: fought them at first, and I thought the media would
Speaker 1: be the worst part, And you guys are the ones
Speaker 1: that actually made it okay to do because when some
Speaker 1: media guys started doing positive spins on it, the social
Speaker 1: side came over and they're like, okay, they like it.
Speaker 1: We like it, so it's not nearly as bad. Now,
Speaker 1: give me the analytics behind not punting. You know, really
Speaker 1: you should punt some in theory and according to the
Speaker 1: numbers themselves, but field position and expected points, and I
Speaker 1: want were you with all the real true analytics of
Speaker 1: the game. But people should punt a lot less in
Speaker 1: the game than they do now. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: proven even at times on your own end of the
Speaker 1: field in the first quarter of the game and those
Speaker 1: kinds of things. And I've decided not to do that.
Speaker 1: But the more I did it, and I saw that
Speaker 1: we were punting so little at one time when I
Speaker 1: was at first experimenting that it was a waste of
Speaker 1: time to waste fifteen minutes a day on the punt team,
Speaker 1: and that fifteen minutes I got to work on something
Speaker 1: else that we needed to on offense or defense. Well,
Speaker 1: they don't measure that in the analytics world. So you
Speaker 1: should really punt if you value those fifteen minutes a day,
Speaker 1: even you should punt even less than the number. Say
Speaker 1: you've heard from other coaches, very successful coaches who came
Speaker 1: in to pick your brain. Man, I mean a lot
Speaker 1: of people, and a lot of them asks me not
Speaker 1: to enable them. So I'm kind of scared. But it's
Speaker 1: been a who's who. Like Bill Belichick, Well you know
Speaker 1: Bill Bill, and Bill just likes talking football. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's ever gonna go to no punt route, don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong. But it's curious though, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think I think, I think curious. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: you know we I think he likes to be around
Speaker 1: people that are successful, and he sees certain things and
Speaker 1: and maybe he was just I don't know if curious
Speaker 1: is the thing. But we've talked some football, and I'll
Speaker 1: guarantee you this, I've learned a lot more from him
Speaker 1: than he has for me. But he's watched our games
Speaker 1: and watched what we do, and I think he's trying
Speaker 1: to see maybe some of the psychological effects that it
Speaker 1: has on the teams as well as as well as
Speaker 1: what it looks like. But I think that's There's a
Speaker 1: lot of coaches that have done that. But I've had
Speaker 1: some of the biggest names in coaching, you know. Nick
Speaker 1: Saban told me at one point, Um, and I don't
Speaker 1: think Nick minds that I mentioned his name, because he's Nick.
Speaker 1: He can do whatever he wants to. But he looked
Speaker 1: and he said, I think you're probably right more than
Speaker 1: you're wrong. But it's hard to do that because of
Speaker 1: all the things you have to face, and you'd have
Speaker 1: to win your team over that traditionally think a different way,
Speaker 1: and and he was winning anyway, so what you know,
Speaker 1: why would he change anything? But do you think this
Speaker 1: might hamper you in getting promoted moving up the ladder
Speaker 1: in college? Absolutely absolutely, And it's hampered me so far.
Speaker 1: I've interviewed for a lot of jobs, you know, whether
Speaker 1: it's a coordinator or a head coach or even a
Speaker 1: position coach, and it doesn't stop the positions. But you know,
Speaker 1: the athletic director always thinks if I hire the wrong
Speaker 1: football coach, and we know this to be true, Dad,
Speaker 1: he might get fired. And the other thing they don't
Speaker 1: want to deal with. And I've been told by athletic
Speaker 1: directors they don't want to deal with the media that
Speaker 1: comes along with it. If you do lose a game
Speaker 1: and make a decision that they think is non traditional,
Speaker 1: then they've got to answer questions too, and a lot
Speaker 1: of them don't want to do that. So yeah, it
Speaker 1: absolutely might hamper me. But again it goes back to this.
Speaker 1: I think a football coach's job, besides knowing football and
Speaker 1: facilitating the relationships and coaching, is when it comes to
Speaker 1: the moment, are you making the decision you think is
Speaker 1: best for your team or so you don't have to
Speaker 1: deal with the media or have to deal with not
Speaker 1: moving up in the profession. And I just decided a
Speaker 1: long time ago my job is to do the decision
Speaker 1: that's gonna help us win games, because those guys deserve
Speaker 1: the reward of all the hard work, the players, the
Speaker 1: assistant coaches, the fans because they pay to see it.
Speaker 1: So I went that route, and if it happens. It happens,
Speaker 1: if it done, it doesn't. If you coached in the NFL,
Speaker 1: would you punt? You know, I've you know, it's not
Speaker 1: that ive never punt. We've put it eight times in
Speaker 1: the last sixteen years. Oh wow, Okay, I know it's not.
Speaker 1: But there are times to punt. So the answer is
Speaker 1: we may punt this year or so, we may punt,
Speaker 1: you know. But but yes, I'm sure there would be
Speaker 1: times i'd punt in the NFL. There would be a
Speaker 1: lot less than what anybody else is doing. Though. Well,
Speaker 1: let's say it's fourth and ten at your own twenty
Speaker 1: first quarter, no score, first quarter, no score. Who's my quarterback?
Speaker 1: The same guy who threw for ten touchdowns over the weekend.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, now I'm not. I'm probably I'm probably not puning. Okay.
Speaker 1: Is I feel like we've got a good offensive scheme too,
Speaker 1: that I've got a good chance to make ten yards
Speaker 1: a better chance than another team. You're facing my own
Speaker 1: water in a couple of weeks. Who's that Dayton? Oh? Nice, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. I hope they don't make us punt.
Speaker 1: They have some great punt returners on that Dayton team.
Speaker 1: I'm get look at that, we're eliminating the game, taking
Speaker 1: that out of player. Can you can you schedule anybody
Speaker 1: like a big name school man looking at what you
Speaker 1: have here, any chances of getting I don't know, Clemson,
Speaker 1: they've played Clemson, they've played Alabama, yeah, last I'll think
Speaker 1: in the last ten years. Yeah, and you know the
Speaker 1: schedule was made when I got here. But that's one
Speaker 1: of the first things I asked. The athletic director said,
Speaker 1: next time we get a spot to open up if
Speaker 1: we can. Besides the money because we're a tight we're
Speaker 1: the smallest Division one school in the country. Besides that
Speaker 1: and the money you get, we don't have any money,
Speaker 1: so we can use that. But so I told him
Speaker 1: I want to because even kids I've had that have
Speaker 1: gone on to colleges, Like I got a quarterback that
Speaker 1: played at Kent State and he played, he started four
Speaker 1: years there, and he went and played at Alabama and
Speaker 1: they just got killed, as you would imagine, fifty five
Speaker 1: to six or something like that. But if you ask
Speaker 1: him what game he remembers the most, it's I got
Speaker 1: to play in Tusca Loosa. So everybody's like, well, they'll
Speaker 1: get beat up physically. Well, I coached that part of
Speaker 1: the game different too. Get out of bounds, don't get hit,
Speaker 1: to be healthy for the next game. But they'll remember
Speaker 1: that game and that gives those guys some memories and
Speaker 1: some talk that they get to play. And I don't
Speaker 1: think it hurts recruiting either. You're not afraid of anybody. No, no,
Speaker 1: and I teams I don't think want to play us
Speaker 1: because they don't want to deal with the not puny.
Speaker 1: They don't want to deal the on side checks, those
Speaker 1: kinds of things. Well, good luck, it's great to talk
Speaker 1: to you, keV, and good luck with the upcoming season.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you having me on. This is a bucket
Speaker 1: list thing. I got to check another thing off the
Speaker 1: bucket list because the great game of foot, well, it's
Speaker 1: like going to Tuscaloosa and facing Nick Saban. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: would like to do that too. Now it might not
Speaker 1: end as well as sister. Yeah, thank you coach. We
Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Thanks Dan, I appreciate it. That's Kevin Kelly.
Speaker 1: He coaches at Presbyterian. They host Fort Lauderdale this Saturday,
Speaker 1: and of course they had the big win. I'm ready
Speaker 1: to play for Yeah, I'm totally gonna play for him.
Speaker 1: So so I was like, all right, I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: interested in this. Yeah, mclovin, what kind of coward would
Speaker 1: punt the football? Uh? Yeah, Paul, he imagine you're Jimmy Lipper.
Speaker 1: You're a senior punter at Presbyterian, you got your last
Speaker 1: year of college, and they we're hiring a new football coach.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you should google him, look up his background. Uh,
Speaker 1: hey mom, I'm transferring. Yeah. What kind of philosophy does
Speaker 1: he has? Uh? Does he am? Um? Kind of wide open?
Speaker 1: And he doesn't punt? Uh? What's what did he say?
Speaker 1: He's had eight punchs in the last sixteen years, point
Speaker 1: five punts per year. It's not like he never punched Dan.
Speaker 1: He wanted to make that clear to you. Yeah. Could
Speaker 1: you imagine if he's in the NFL and did and
Speaker 1: did that? Don't you wonder what is what the players
Speaker 1: are like though, where he's just like punt it? Why?
Speaker 1: Like coach has lost all his belief in us. We
Speaker 1: can't not you coach, yes, mclevan, But as a fan
Speaker 1: you get it because when your team has it at
Speaker 1: the opponent's forty five and it's fourth and five and
Speaker 1: you punt. That is just like, we're not going to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. You get bummed out though, when there
Speaker 1: are certain moments where you know that coach is just
Speaker 1: being cautious, overly cautious, and you're like, go for it.
Speaker 1: It's like fourth and three at your forty nine yard line,
Speaker 1: just go for it. Yeah, and then you kick it away. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Remember about four years ago, Doug five years ago, Doug
Speaker 1: Peterson for the Eagles was doing this a lot more,
Speaker 1: going forward two point conversions. Yeah, and when it was working,
Speaker 1: he was the you know, the flavor of the month.
Speaker 1: It was a big deal. I mean it was. He
Speaker 1: was got a lot of credit for it. Yes, the
Speaker 1: big one to me. Remember when the Patriots were in
Speaker 1: their own territory against the Colts and they went for
Speaker 1: it on and they missed on a Kevin I think
Speaker 1: I was Sunday night football game. That was huge. Yes,
Speaker 1: but you know Belichick ran the analytics and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a big deal. But but imagine you're a
Speaker 1: high school coach and he won like nine state championships
Speaker 1: something crazy, and Bill Belichick calls you he wants to
Speaker 1: talk football with you, or coach Saban because he just
Speaker 1: he just started this college John, but he was in
Speaker 1: high school. And you got coach Saban and Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: who want to pick your brain and pretty heavy stuff.
Speaker 1: Some phone calls in here, Ryan and Honolulu. Hi, Ryan, Hello,
Speaker 1: all right, what's on your mind? I hope you had
Speaker 1: a great Labor Day weekend. I've got some Labor Day
Speaker 1: sports names for you if you don't mind. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1: We got NBA legend Dirk Nowakski, Michigan coach Jim Hard Labor. Okay,
Speaker 1: well we're all over two over too, all right. This
Speaker 1: one's for mclovin Andrew laid Off. We got soccer US
Speaker 1: soccer star Christian Paula Sicky likes chick out. No, I
Speaker 1: got it. Yeah, I got the NFL ones here, Paul
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback Johnny Uniunited Labor all right, Bill's wide
Speaker 1: receiver and manual reviews Sanders. And lastly, Patriots coach Bill
Speaker 1: Bella paycheck. Okay, all right, thank you, Ryan, Ryan worked
Speaker 1: too hard on it. Um Todd you probably as soon
Speaker 1: as he said I got Labor Day names, and I go,
Speaker 1: oh no, now Todd's got to come up with him.
Speaker 1: You don't know, no will, but again, the enthusiasm is
Speaker 1: very helpful. It could turn something that's under ravage into
Speaker 1: something palatable. Well, the only reason why he salvage some
Speaker 1: of that is the accent. That's it, Dirk. That was
Speaker 1: pretty good. No, no, no, no, no no. I thought
Speaker 1: that was the best water good. No, it wasn't good
Speaker 1: at all. And if you like it, it's not good.
Speaker 1: That's true. I got terrible time Ryan in New York.
Speaker 1: I Ryan, what's on your mind today? Hedp. I'll try
Speaker 1: to follow that one up. What's some trivia for you?
Speaker 1: You were talking about the caprio Um and his role
Speaker 1: and was eating Gilbert great? He was nominated for Best
Speaker 1: Supporting Actor in nineteen ninety three. Yeah. Do you know
Speaker 1: the actor who beat him out? And I'll give you
Speaker 1: a hint. He was Harvard educated. The actor who won
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three Best Supporting Actor it's not Michael Kane.
Speaker 1: No good guess Tommy Lee Jones, oh or Us Marshall,
Speaker 1: Samuel Girard in the future. Interesting, Oh yeah, beat out
Speaker 1: Leo that year. All right, thank you, Ryan, it's um.
Speaker 1: Oh you know Michael Kane won when Haley Joel Osmond
Speaker 1: for sixth cents should have won. The Kane went for
Speaker 1: Siderhouse rules. Michael Kane, Yes, cider House. Haley Joel Osmond
Speaker 1: was why why is it okay? I don't understand this.
Speaker 1: Hollywood doesn't recognize comedies as being worthy of winning Academy
Speaker 1: Awards and children who were actors. They for some reason,
Speaker 1: and they've done this many, many times. But you could
Speaker 1: go back to Tatum O'Neill in Paper Moon was spectacular.
Speaker 1: Um who is the um the child actor who was
Speaker 1: in the movie with Bree Larson Room. Yes, I didn't
Speaker 1: see that that uh what's his name? And a little
Speaker 1: that that boy was. He was wonderful, he was. And
Speaker 1: Haley Joel Osman in sixth Sense was great. And you
Speaker 1: can't go well, you'll get to your opportunity. He's not
Speaker 1: getting his opportunity again. He had his opportunity. But oh
Speaker 1: my god, yeah, mcclub. Before that Car, we got an
Speaker 1: angry tweet about Tommy Lee Jones winning that Oscar over
Speaker 1: Leo had said that Tommy Lee Jones plays the same
Speaker 1: guy at every movie he does. He did, but it
Speaker 1: Fugitive was such an amazing movie that it was the
Speaker 1: first time we saw it nobody knew anything about Leo.
Speaker 1: But when you watch that movie, that is that Academy
Speaker 1: Award winning he was. I think it's the best acting
Speaker 1: he ever did. And maybe because I didn't know anything
Speaker 1: about him and he just he steals the movie from
Speaker 1: Johnny Depp. Yeah, Paul, there's a couple of kids got
Speaker 1: nominated in the eighties, justin Henry. He was Best Supporting
Speaker 1: Actor for a Kramer Versus Creamer. Yeah, kid in that guy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: bowl haircut. And then Anna Paquin she won at age eleven.
Speaker 1: She won Best Supporting Actress at eleven for the Piano. Yes,
Speaker 1: she was in with Holly Hunter. Yeah, did Tatum O'Neill win.
Speaker 1: I think she did for Paper Moon? She was in
Speaker 1: with her dad. But is that right? McLevin yees Supporting Actress. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what about that? Uh that boy in the in the
Speaker 1: movie with Bree Larson Room, is it Jacob Tremblay, Yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he was in a movie recently with his three
Speaker 1: There were two other buddies and do you mean the one.
Speaker 1: Oh it was like a really dark comedy. Yes, yes, Oh,
Speaker 1: that was funny Todd Light that I remember. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was great. He was great in that movie. But I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. We don't recognize comedies and you
Speaker 1: know the children who are wonderful in these movies. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll take it. Break, last call for phone calls. What
Speaker 1: we learned? What'sn't story? Yeah? See, do you have something
Speaker 1: for me? I have just much love and respect. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you? All right, we'll be back after this. Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure
Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon
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Speaker 1: my trustee sidekick David Gascon. Would meet a lot to
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Speaker 1: Eli Manning will join us on the program tomorrow. We'll
Speaker 1: get you ready for the opening of the NFL season
Speaker 1: check in with the Cowboys and the Buccaneers as well.
Speaker 1: Season kicks off tomorrow at seven Eastern on NBC and
Speaker 1: Peacock Deck and the Boys taking on Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. Last call for phone calls, what we learn,
Speaker 1: what's in store tomorrow? Fom a result so the poll question,
Speaker 1: and also this day in sports history. Let me start
Speaker 1: with this day in sports history. Pauli nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 1: Herschel Walker made his debut in the NFL after leaving
Speaker 1: the New Jersey Generals of the USFL, which went defunct
Speaker 1: ninety nine eight. Mark McGuire of the Cardinals had a
Speaker 1: sixty second home run, beat the record that stood for
Speaker 1: thirty seven years by Roger Morris. McGuire reached seventy home
Speaker 1: runs on September twenty seventh. All right, here's the quiz.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and two, the NFL's Houston Texans played their
Speaker 1: first regular season game. Who did they play and what
Speaker 1: was the result first game for the Texans. It was
Speaker 1: juicy because of the result of the game. I know
Speaker 1: who the quarterback is for the Texans, I believe I do.
Speaker 1: His brother is playing in the NFL. It was David Carr,
Speaker 1: the quarterback of the Texans, and they beat the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: But I don't know the score. I think you got
Speaker 1: both right. They did beat the Cowboys. Derek David Carr
Speaker 1: was a quarterback nineteen to ten and if you see
Speaker 1: that headlines the next day was not pretty for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to lose to the expansion club. Okay, anything else,
Speaker 1: that's it, all right. What was the year with herschel
Speaker 1: Walker eighty six? Eighty six? Yeah, I was. I was
Speaker 1: still in New York, and I remember whenever the generals
Speaker 1: would have a press conference, it would be at Trump Tower,
Speaker 1: and I was in I was in thirty fourth and eighth,
Speaker 1: and then we go up to Midtown where a Trump
Speaker 1: Tower was, and then Donald Trump would always have these
Speaker 1: press conferences in the lobby. But there was this waterfall
Speaker 1: that he had and all of this noise, and you'd
Speaker 1: have a press conference where you'd hear the waterfall and
Speaker 1: Doug Flutie or herschel Walker or Donald Trump would be
Speaker 1: there talking. The audio was not very good. Of those
Speaker 1: press conferences entertaining, but the audio was not very good.
Speaker 1: And if you played at some of the Trump golf courses,
Speaker 1: he loves waterfalls. I think I played at two of
Speaker 1: them and both of them had waterfalls or something like that.
Speaker 1: Let me see was there anything else? In nineteen sixty five,
Speaker 1: Bert Campaniras played in all He played in a game
Speaker 1: in all nine positions. I think he was the first
Speaker 1: player to ever do that. Bert campanairess Campi Campanairassuh Yeah.
Speaker 1: Final results pull question mcleven, whose career would you have
Speaker 1: wanted with the Hall of Fame induction tonight? Did Derek
Speaker 1: Jeter beat out Rickey Henderson, Ken Graffie Jr. And Marianna Rivera? Yes,
Speaker 1: he did? Cal Ripkins second. I don't know if there's
Speaker 1: a wrong answer. I don't know if there's a right
Speaker 1: answer with them. I mentioned this earlier. We talked a
Speaker 1: little bit about this and Rashid Wallace, who may forget
Speaker 1: when he played or how often he played against Lebron James,
Speaker 1: but he was on a podcast on barstool million dollars
Speaker 1: worth of game podcast and had this to say about
Speaker 1: Lebron James and my era. He probably probably would have
Speaker 1: done good because with his physical stature, with him being
Speaker 1: in a little bit bigger than a majority of the rest,
Speaker 1: So he probably would have held his own. But I
Speaker 1: don't think he would have been as successful as he
Speaker 1: is now. Like now it's man, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like he's doing it, young boy doing it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So, but it was a whole different
Speaker 1: error back then, bro so beast is soft. I just
Speaker 1: told you, beast him. You know. I think I think
Speaker 1: he would have held his own. I can't necessarily say
Speaker 1: he would have been a beast, but I think he
Speaker 1: would have held his own. Feels like he didn't hold
Speaker 1: his own against Rashid and the Pistons when he played
Speaker 1: against him. You know, keep in mind, Paul Pierce has
Speaker 1: a problem with Lebron. Paul Pierce wasn't beating Lebron until
Speaker 1: they brought in Kevin Garnett and round Paul Pierce. Can
Speaker 1: you know, he was great, but he was no match
Speaker 1: for Lebron. They brought in Garnett and Ray Ray and
Speaker 1: Rondo and they were better than Lebron James. As for
Speaker 1: the Pistons. That was a really good team, and the
Speaker 1: Braun came in and scored forty eight on you in
Speaker 1: a playoff game, including twenty five consecutive points, including a
Speaker 1: layup with two seconds to go to win it. Rashid
Speaker 1: may not remember that, or may choose not to remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeahpo Rashid Wallace was listed at six two twenty five.
Speaker 1: Lebron James's list at six nine two sixty. Lebron was
Speaker 1: going to be able to hold his own You know,
Speaker 1: you get used to the contact, you get used to
Speaker 1: the style, but also, I mean you learn to play.
Speaker 1: In the era, he would have been, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot more physical, not taking jump shauns take it to
Speaker 1: the hoop, getting fouled all the time and then eventually
Speaker 1: gets the star treatment that I mean, you had true
Speaker 1: star treatment. Back then. It always felt like if Jordan
Speaker 1: drove to the hoop, they were going to pick out
Speaker 1: somebody and the foul was on them, whether they were
Speaker 1: close to Jordan or not. Yeah, McLevin, Yeah, you say
Speaker 1: this about Trey Young and Steph Curry not the biggest
Speaker 1: strongest guy in the game. Lebron would have been stronger
Speaker 1: than any of these guys. Well, except for like Oakley's
Speaker 1: and stuff, Well, you would have been able to put
Speaker 1: your hand. Well, Oakley couldn't cover Lebron. But Lebron's size
Speaker 1: would have made him a great adaptation to that because
Speaker 1: he's very big. Well, first of all, he's big, but
Speaker 1: he's athletic, he's he's a very fast player. When he runs,
Speaker 1: he covers a lot of ground. He's fast. You know,
Speaker 1: Steph and Trey Young. You'd be able to put your
Speaker 1: hand on them. And that's the big difference in today's NBA.
Speaker 1: I can't do a Fourumoni, I can't. I can't hand
Speaker 1: check you. You know, back then they would be able
Speaker 1: to do that to Lebron. But how many guys would
Speaker 1: match up size wise with Lebron? Back then? If I
Speaker 1: take somebody six nine two sixty and he's handling the
Speaker 1: ball and he's probably the best athlete on the floor,
Speaker 1: I like my chances. Yeah, mcclub. Yeah, if you put
Speaker 1: a big guy on him, he's too slow. Anthony Mason,
Speaker 1: that would have been a good man. No, Anthony Mason,
Speaker 1: sixty six, he wouldn't do anything, that's true. He was
Speaker 1: big though. Yeah, he was a Mike Tyson like look
Speaker 1: power forward. I mean a character. He always had a
Speaker 1: design cut out in his hair. His haircut had that
Speaker 1: left handed shot at his Let's go around the room.
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Speaker 1: We spent a good porstra of the opening segments debating
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Speaker 1: getting hunt in the desert. The numbers prove it only
Speaker 1: a fool would punt the football. Seaton O'Connor Junior the third,
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