1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe Podcast with LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox, and 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: myself Brady Quinn. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern or three am to six 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: local station for the Two Pros and a Cup of 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: Joe show over at Foxsports Radio dot com or stream 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: Let's give this parties. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: Oh what is going on Happy Thursday to you? Number 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: one isn't even in the top five? That in just 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: a couple of seconds. Hey, two Pros and a Cup 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: of Joe now has a brand new YouTube channel for 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: the show. Just go to YouTube dot com slash at 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: two Pros FSR, or if you are already on YouTube, 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: just search two Pros FSR. Be sure to hit that 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: subscrip button. You'll have infant access to the very best 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: videos from the show. Go check out the brand new 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: channel again. Just search two Pros FSR on YouTube and subscribe. Okay, 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: j Mart, So I'm gonna get to man. Have you 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: checked out the QB Tiers thing with Mike Sando. 22 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: The sand I haven't gotten all the way through it, 23 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: but I have started to kind of go through it. 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: I used to have him on every year, Yeah, when 25 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: it came out. Always a lot to discuss and debate 26 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 3: coming out of that thing. 27 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: Oh big time. There are some comments on the QB 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: Tiers list, so it's just basically ranking all these NFL quarterbacks. 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: Are they in Tier one, the top tier, all the 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: way down to Tier five the worst tier? And some 31 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: of the anonymous quotes are like, what there's something about 32 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: your guy Bo Nicks. I'm gonna get to in a 33 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: few minutes. But there's also this debate. It's sort of 34 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: connected to the tears list, but they're talking about who's 35 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: the fifth best quarterback in the NFL, where, in no 36 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: certain order, most people have Mahomes, Josh, Allen, Burrow, and 37 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: Lamar most have them in the top four some sort 38 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: of differing order of those four guys. But then the 39 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: question becomes who's number five, Who's fifth best in the NFL? 40 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 2: And you could throw a couple of names out there. 41 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: One name that has been thrown out by quite a 42 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: bit of quite a few people is Jalen Hurts, and 43 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: I'm curious what you think, Jason. I am not in 44 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: the Jalen Hurts is the top five quarterback way of thinking. 45 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: So he wears number one. I've got number one, not 46 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: in the top five. And for a few reasons here, 47 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: I just look at Jalen Hurts and you can't discount 48 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 2: how much talent the guy has around him. I actually 49 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: have Jaden Daniels, the Washington Commanders quarterback, over Jalen Hurts 50 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 2: right now, and you might look at me sideways like Brian. 51 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts just won a Super Bowl. Yeah, that's right, 52 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: because it has a much better supporting cast. You tell me, 53 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: You tell me with a straight face, Jason. If Jayden 54 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: Daniels is the Eagles quarterback with all that talent around him, 55 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: forget about it. He's putting up huge numbers. They're still 56 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: winning at a high clip. I wouldn't be shocked if 57 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: they want a Super Bowl with him as a rookie. 58 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: If he's on that team. Now, if you put Jalen 59 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: Hurts with the Washington Commanders, that's not too sexy. 60 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: Right there. 61 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: No two thousand yard running back, no top five wide receiver, 62 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: no number two scoring defense. You know it's the old Uh, 63 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: it's the old line and taken. Yeah, good luck with that. 64 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: I just I don't see Jalen Hurts having even close 65 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: to the same success. I don't see that team winning 66 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: a ton of games. I just don't see that. I 67 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: don't think Jalen Hurts is productive. 68 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: On that level. 69 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: So I don't have him as a top guy. What 70 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: do you say to that, Do you have Hurts as 71 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: the number five guy or you go elsewhere? 72 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I know who they have. I wouldn't have 73 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: it there either, just because of age and just I 74 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: don't know if he's going to be available enough during 75 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: the year. I actually would probably put Jayden Daniels at five. Yeah. 76 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 3: Personally to the point about Hurts, my broadcast partner on 77 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: our Saturday program, Aaron Tarez, has said that Jalen Hurts 78 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: has become the new Dak Prescott in terms of how 79 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 3: he's talked about and how he has discussed, and I 80 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: think there's truth to that. However, I think Jayalen Hurts 81 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 3: is an incredible leader. I think he's a better leader 82 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: and a dude that you want to go to war with. 83 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 3: I think that he's stronger in that than he is 84 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: some of the nuts and bolts of being an NFL quarterback. 85 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 3: As an athlete. We know what he is as a thrower. 86 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: At times, it can look good. At times, it certainly 87 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 3: looks a lot better than it did in college. He 88 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: has worked hard to get better, and he has gotten better. 89 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: I would go to war with Jayalen Hurts and feel 90 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: pretty good about it most of the time. But to 91 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: your point, I think from and I also think that 92 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels has proven out to be a pretty good leader. 93 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 3: I mean, LSU might have won three games if he 94 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 3: hadn't been quarterback man the year that he won the 95 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: Heisman Trophy. I think he's he's kind of a different guy. 96 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: Like I know how we felt about c J. Stroud 97 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: after year one, and then CJ he took a bit 98 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 3: of a step back. But I also he dealt with 99 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: a lot of injuries and I think he took some 100 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 3: unfair critique. There was some more tape on him, and 101 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: he might not have been as sure of himself throwing 102 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 3: the ball. I still believe in CJ. Stroud. I think 103 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: he is likely to have a good year this year, 104 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: and I still like his prospects from his career. But 105 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: if you start to look at these other guys you mentioned, 106 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 3: mahomes Boro, Allen Jackson, Yeah, they're all going to be there. 107 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: Then they have Stafford, and that's where I'm just kind 108 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: of I'm not as sure. So to your question directly, yes, 109 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: I have Jaden Daniels above Jayalen Hurts. I have a 110 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: hard time with some of the names, some of the 111 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: other names, like they've got Justin Herbert and Jared Goff 112 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 3: both above Jalen Hurts as well. That's where I'm not assured, 113 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: because I've also seen Jared Goff play pretty poorly in 114 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 3: games that have knocked his team out of the playoffs 115 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: a few times in a row. I feel like Jayalen 116 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 3: Hurts deserves more respect than to be beneath probably Goff 117 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: and certainly a Herbert that to me has just not 118 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: done anything yet. And he, to me, is still one 119 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 3: of the more fascinating discussions in the NFL because I 120 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 3: am constantly told how great he is, yet he still 121 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: hasn't won anything. 122 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. It's funny, right, because you can look 123 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: at what is You can look at all these quarterbacks 124 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: on their teams with their exact supporting casts, or he 125 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: could do something maybe a little more dangerous, right, which 126 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: is if you do the swap thing. I just keep 127 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: going back to Jalen Hurts is driving a luxury automobile, 128 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and he only has to 129 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: do so much. I remember, you know, a long time ago, 130 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: Shannon Sharp was talking about the Denver Broncos and this 131 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: is like ninety seven ninety eight when they're winning back 132 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: to back championships and John Elway was hurt for about 133 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: four games and Bubby Brister was the backup quarterback and 134 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 2: I've got audio somewhere, but he is comparison. Shannon Sharp 135 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: was on NFL Networks America's game and he was like, Bubby, 136 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: this is a sports car. Okay, just as long as 137 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: you don't strip the gears, you know, like, just keep 138 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: this thing on the highway, We're gonna be fine. Just 139 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: don't screw it up. That's basically where Jalen Hurts is. 140 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: With as much talent as around him, he is driving 141 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: a high priced luxury sports car and justin Herbert, I 142 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: don't want to make it sound like it's the most 143 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: broken down Jaloppi there is, but he doesn't have surrounding him. 144 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: What Jalen Hurts does and that matters, So if you 145 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: look at it from that standpoint, it changes things a bit. 146 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: Even though what you said on point as well, Justin Herbert, 147 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: he doesn't have any postseas in success to speak of. 148 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: He's had some stinkers. He had a couple of big 149 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: turnovers in the last playoff game against the Texans. So 150 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: you could look at it as is, or you could 151 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: start saying, hey, that's an interesting way to look at 152 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: the supporting cast and how much it means for the quarterback. 153 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I definitely think there's something too that. 154 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: I mean, again, as good as Herbert is from just 155 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: a nuts and bolts standpoint of the things that you 156 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: want to do to be quarterback and has the arm 157 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: and has all those things, like how many guys have 158 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 3: become a whole lot better because he's been their quarterback. 159 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: I haven't seen that yet. And this is not me 160 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: being like total naysayer on Justin Herbert. I see the 161 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: talent too, I just need to see it actually translate 162 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: to something like we give guys like Lamar and Josh 163 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: Allen a lot of crap because they haven't made it 164 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: to a super Bowl yet and deservedly so, because the 165 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 3: expectations get higher for guys like that. But it seems 166 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 3: like Herbert hasn't been held of that metric as much. 167 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 3: And I wonder if that would start to shift if 168 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: this year, you know, we start to see I mean, 169 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: this is year two with Harball, and you should see 170 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: another step this year. You shouldn't see running in place, 171 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 3: and I, you know, I just want to stop seeing 172 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: the treadmill effect with him. 173 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: No, I get it, I totally get it. And that's 174 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: the funny thing is I think you can make like 175 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: valid points on both sides because I look at Herbert 176 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 2: and if you're like, okay, let's go in benefit of 177 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: the doubt mode, you know, like, what does he have 178 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: around him? If you look at last year, he had 179 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: Lad McConkie, who was a daisy fresh rookie who was 180 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: fantastic last season. And what you know, you had Will 181 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 2: Disley who he had some decent games but got banged up. 182 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: You had Quinton Johnston who can't catch at all, you 183 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, that's not what Jalen Hurts 184 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: has around him. So I don't want to make excuses 185 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: left and right for Herbert. You're right, he's got to 186 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: do a lot more than he has done, but at 187 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: the same rate, the supporting cast matters. I always point 188 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,479 Speaker 2: to Draymond Green. You know, Draymond Green on the Wizards, 189 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: he's an average role player who gets thrown out of 190 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 2: a lot more games. Yeah, you've never heard of before. 191 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: But Draymond with the Warriors, he's a Hall of Famer. 192 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 2: Like what you're surrounded by matters a whole lot. This 193 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: is the part of the QB Tiers that made me 194 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 2: do a little John. You know, he's famous for saying 195 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: that's right. I saw this comment. I couldn't believe it. 196 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: So there's a coach, a mystery coach somewhere in the NFL, 197 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 2: lurking behind a fence post or something, and he says 198 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: he thinks that bo Nicks your guy. The Broncos could 199 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: overtake Jaden Daniels this season. Now this is the comment. 200 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: I get where he's coming from. But so this is 201 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: the QB Tiers. Mike Sando interviews all these coaches, executives, GMS, 202 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: all these guys, and they have anonymous quotes about quarterbacks. 203 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 2: And this was the one from a mystery coach that said, 204 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: what we are going to see is Sean Payton's ability 205 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: to develop a quarterback relative to Cliff Kingsbury's ability to 206 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 2: do that. Both players, meaning bow Knicks and Jaden Daniels, 207 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: appear to be dialed into the profession of quarterbacking, taking 208 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: care of the body, coming in early, leaving late being 209 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: all about ball. I'm interested in seeing who is able 210 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: to grow the most this coming year. I actually think 211 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: bow Knicks is going to win out in that. Wow, 212 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: do you see bow Knicks overtaking Jaden Daniels this season? 213 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 3: No, I don't, even though I mean, I feel good 214 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: about Bo going into year two. Everything I've heard has 215 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 3: been really positive. I love that he has spent time 216 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: with Drew Brees in the offseason as well, like he 217 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 3: clearly is committed to this, and just what you hear 218 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: about what Sean Payton felt about him prior to the draft, 219 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: you just feel like he's in a really good situation. 220 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 3: At the same time, I don't know how much Cliff 221 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 3: Kingsbury needs to develop Jaden Daniels, because Jaden Daniels. 222 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: Just has it right. 223 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: So I don't know that this is as much about 224 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 3: I don't know that I need to put so much 225 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 3: on Cliff Kingsbury's shoulders. I might feel differently if this 226 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: were like a Caleb Williams conversation and we were talking 227 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: about Cliff Kingsbury because there was still some development that 228 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: needed to be done. In Chicago, you actually got regression 229 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: because you didn't have anybody there that could help him 230 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: develop and work on some of those things and feel 231 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: more confident in them. But as it relates to this, 232 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 3: I like that you're thinking about Bonnicks in that way 233 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: if you are this person, right, But I think that's 234 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: a bridge too far. I think that's the kind of 235 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 3: thing you have to let happen, but not predict, because 236 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 3: there's just not enough. There's no reason to believe that. 237 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 3: I don't. I could see Washington take a mild step 238 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 3: back this year, just because I think they flew really, 239 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 3: really high last year. But there's no reason to think 240 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: that Jaden Daniels is really coming back down to earth, 241 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: because it's not as if what he was doing was 242 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: a gimmick, like, it's just he's just good at the position. 243 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: So no, I don't. I don't. I don't think that 244 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 3: he's gonna end up better than Daniels. I don't. I 245 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: do think he's going to finish the season a very 246 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 3: strong number two from last year's class. I think that's 247 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: fair because I'm not sure about Pennix and there's still 248 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 3: a lot of question marks about Kayleb Williams in this situation. 249 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: But I think that it's it's disrespectful to say anything 250 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: other than Jayden Daniels is on a completely different plane 251 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 3: right now than the rest of those guys. 252 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, he really is. That's how special he was last season. 253 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 2: And that's the thing is I think that you could 254 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 2: make this argument with you know, a quarterbacks current team. 255 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 2: Could Bo Nicks be more productive throwing the ball? 256 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 4: Sure? 257 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: You just look at last season. Bow Knicks had four 258 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 2: more touchdown pass in three more interceptions, Like they're in 259 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: the same zip code. Throwing the ball like, bow Knicks 260 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: had more passing yards. You could look at them, you know, 261 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: this way, that way, all across the board. The difference 262 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 2: is rushing yards. Jaden Daniels just an absolute playmaker. Bo 263 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: Knicks can move around too, he's an athlete. But Jaden Daniels, 264 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: I think that, Hey, could Bo Nicks be more productive 265 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: with the Broncos and Sean Payton this season? Yeah? In 266 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: certain categories, I think he could. He was last year, 267 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: so I think he could do it again or maybe 268 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: even grow a little bit. But then I think there's 269 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: an argument, okay, forget about their current team, on any team, 270 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, who's better than who? 271 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels is the class of that draft so far, 272 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: and I think bow Knicks he's got a long that's 273 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: that's a high hill to climb to be like the 274 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: guy of the class over Jaden Daniels. I just I 275 00:14:55,120 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: don't see bow Knicks exceeding as much as Jayden Daniels 276 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: falls back. I just I don't think that he's close 277 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: enough to pass him up in year two. I just 278 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: don't see that happening. 279 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: I think both of them are going to have good years. 280 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: I think both those football teams ought to have pretty 281 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: good years. But yeah, I just I think that you 282 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: got to get to the end of the season say wow, 283 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: bo Nick somehow ended up with a better season than 284 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: Jane Daniels. I feel like that's the kind of quote 285 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: you say that you're not going to be held to 286 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: account for because it's anonymous, and it's perfect for Mike 287 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: Sando or anybody that wants to put an article like 288 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 3: this together because it's instant, Yeah, debate, It's exactly right 289 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: for the way that sports media is done. Now. 290 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: I could just see him doing a Tiger Woods fist pump, like, Yeah. 291 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: That's what we're talking about right there. That's right, That's 292 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 3: what I wanted. 293 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: That's right, all right. Uh, he's Jason Martin. 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He's Jason Martin. I'm Brian 316 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: though In for the crew here on Fox Sports Radio. 317 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: Two pros and a cup of Joe. Everyone knows first 318 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: impressions start with the first coat. That's that's why you 319 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: can trust Kills Primers for a smooth and professional finish. 320 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 2: Kills Primers now available exclusively at the Home Depot if 321 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 2: you're a pro, you know, sponsored by the Home Depot. Okay, 322 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: So I was thinking about this Jay mart where there 323 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: was a famous quote from the Oregon head football coach 324 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 2: Dan Lanning. Now this goes back a couple of years. 325 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: But they're about to play Colorado. It's a big game, 326 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: a lot of anticipation, you know, coach prime Colorado at 327 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 2: Oregon and the pregame speech, this is partially what Dan 328 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 2: Lanning said about Colorado wins right like that was the 329 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: perception that they're fighting for clips, clicks, we're fighting for wins. 330 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: I think that would have actually applied better to the 331 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys and Jerry Jones specifically. Right if you you 332 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: think if there is ever a quote about a dude 333 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: that approaches things like this, he's even said it. This 334 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: was Jerry Jones recently talking about just that if. 335 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 4: We're not being looked at, then I'll do my part 336 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 4: to get a slip taber. 337 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: Is that not the definition of fighting for clicks? Like? 338 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 2: That's it right there, even when I'll gie you one more. 339 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 2: This is him talking about Dallas, the Dallas Cowboys being 340 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: a soap opera, and he thinks this is a good thing. 341 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 4: The Cowboys are a soap opera. 342 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: Three D and sixty five. 343 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 5: Ho's turning it is? 344 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 4: It's oh, it's wonderful to have the great athletes, have 345 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 4: the great players. 346 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 3: But there's something more there. 347 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 4: There's sizzle, there's emotion, and if you will, there's controversy. 348 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 4: That controversy is good stuff in terms of keeping and 349 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 4: having people's attention. 350 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 2: That tells you everything you need to know, Jason about 351 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: how Jerry Jones approaches all these things. Contracts. Contracts is 352 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: the biggest one, right, He's just looking at this and 353 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: it's a new headline each day because he's doing exactly 354 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 2: what he just explained. He's like, if it gets slow, 355 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: I'll stir it up. Controversy sells, Sizzle sells. It's like 356 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: he thinks of the Dallas Cowboys as a TV show 357 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 2: and he's trying to get the most ratings and the 358 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: most conversation generated. It's not what's best for business, it's 359 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: not what's best for pursuing a super Bowl. But that's 360 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: his agenda. That's what he goes for primarily, is to 361 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 2: be talked about the sizzle, the clicks. Dan Lanning, what 362 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: he said about Colorado that absolutely applies to Jerry Jones. 363 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's that's the most real thing that 364 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: you can say about the Cowboys or that has been 365 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: said about the Cowboys in a long time. And we 366 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 3: didn't even need him to say it. But if you've 367 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: watched this Michael Parson's thing, you realize that this is 368 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 3: to stay in the news cycle. Yeah, Like from Jerry's perspective, 369 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: that's a win for him. It's costing him money, which 370 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: is insane. Like, I mean, every day of this is 371 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 3: called him more money. They've seen other guys similar positions 372 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 3: get paid. Now Mike is going to want more than them, 373 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 3: and deservedly so at this point in his career. I mean, 374 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 3: this is how bad it is and how transparent it is. 375 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: And this is why, by the way, this is why, 376 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 3: until he either passes away or completely retires or is 377 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: no longer controlling that team, you can go ahead and 378 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: count Dallas out. Yeah, you can count them out. I'm sorry. 379 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 3: You can count them out in terms of them being 380 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 3: truly relevant to a championship. And I hate that for 381 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: Dallas fans. I know some of them as pretty much. 382 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 3: I think everybody knows a Dallas fan or two because 383 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 3: they're a national brand. But this Michael Parsons deal, it 384 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 3: is so transparent, Brian, that people are on Micah Parson's 385 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 3: side in a negotiation with ownership, where usually because it's 386 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 3: very hard to see things from a player's perspective because 387 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 3: the money involved and how different the job is, usually 388 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: you go with management. It's man pay Michah Parsons right 389 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 3: like like it seems like it's been. I mean, I 390 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 3: wouldn't say it's unanimous, but the majority opinion just from 391 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: the sports watching public has been that Michah Parsons is 392 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 3: the one that is in the right or the one 393 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 3: that you support in this situation, not the owner. And 394 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 3: I think it's because transparently, you know, it's like, you know, 395 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: you want to pay this guy. I mean, what did 396 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 3: he say yesterday? He was just kind of like somebody 397 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 3: asked him, ask Jerry Jones, you know what is it 398 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 3: that's stopping you from paying and getting this job done? 399 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 3: And he said nothing, Right, It's just like, what what 400 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: are we doing here? Man? Like, what is the goal 401 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 3: is not to win a Super Bowl? It's not. It's 402 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: just to make sure Dallas, the Dallas Cowboys are being 403 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 3: talked about left and right, And to me, that's just like, 404 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: all right, fine, then stop putting them in prime time 405 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 3: because they're not a serious organization. 406 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, now that's it. That's right on point. And that's 407 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 2: the thing is I think, I know Jerry Jones is 408 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 2: prioritizing the wrong thing. He'll say he wants to win 409 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl worse than anything, but his actions don't 410 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: support that. It's one thing to say something. You can 411 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 2: go to the club and promise the most beautiful. 412 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 3: Girl there the world. 413 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 2: Words don't matter, the actions do. If you take her 414 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 2: to Sizzler, and that's your equivalent of taking her on 415 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: a trip around the world. Like that, the actions don't 416 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: support the words. So that's where Jerry Jones is. He'll 417 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: say how much he wants to win a Super Bowl 418 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 2: and then his actions get in the way of that. 419 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: And so I think that there are two things happening here, 420 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: and I think there's the checkers level and the chess level. 421 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: The first part is the checkers level. It's what you 422 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: talked about, Jason is the newest headline is Jerry Jones. Hey, 423 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: nothing's preventing the Parsons talks from happening. And so all 424 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 2: that is is Jerry Jones keeping this whole story relevant. 425 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 2: And what he's really doing, he's playing this game of 426 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: not my fault. That's really what it boils down to. 427 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: You read between the lines. He's saying, not my fault, 428 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 2: nothing's preventing us having talks with Parsons, Like read between 429 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,719 Speaker 2: the lines except for Parsons, that's basically what he's saying. 430 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: Or like some of the other things that he's talked 431 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: about where he's like, I don't know why we're renegotiating, 432 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: he's basically saying I thought we had a deal done. 433 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 3: Again away so insane for an owner to say that, Oh, 434 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 3: like every contract that an owner or management has ever 435 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 3: put forth to an athlete is something that's been honored. Like, 436 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 3: let's be let's at least act like our audience understands 437 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 3: anything right. 438 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 2: It's completely ridiculous. But this is the audio when he 439 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: said that. 440 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 4: In the case of a player or contract, you have 441 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 4: to have it in writing all parties. Do we have 442 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 4: a contract in writing? Yet we're still talking about and 443 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: renegotiating it. So so much for that. 444 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 2: He's totally putting the finger at Micah Parson's like, not 445 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 2: my fault. Maybe talk to him. I thought we had 446 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: a deal done. 447 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 3: Apparently not. 448 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 2: Jerry Jones is hinted that he's offered around two hundred 449 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: million dollars, which I don't believe at all. You had 450 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett signed for one sixty. Why is he offering 451 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: two hundred. But again, it's a way to shift the 452 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: blame where it's like, not my fault. I'm offering him 453 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: the sun and the moon. I don't know why we 454 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: don't have a deal done. That's the checkers level. The 455 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 2: chess level is why he's doing that. Jerry Jones is 456 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: smart enough to get a deal done quicker than it's 457 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: happening here. He just doesn't want to. He's looking at 458 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: this like why rush into this thing. Let's get some 459 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: headlines first, Let's get some people talking. Then eventually, way 460 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: down the road, after costing us way more money, we'll 461 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: get the deal done. Cause he's about the soap opera 462 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 2: more than the super Bowl. That's what he's prioritizing here. 463 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's no other way to read it 464 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: than that way. And then you know he had offered 465 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 3: him this extension back in like February. But then when 466 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 3: Parsons agent actually tried to, you know, get it actually 467 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 3: done right now, it goes radio silent, right like what 468 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: are we doing and what are you trying to create here? 469 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: Because this situation, the ceedee Lamb situation, even how long 470 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: it took to do what you were going to do 471 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 3: with Dak Prescott, like you do this. This is what 472 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 3: the Cowboys do with free agents or with guys that 473 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 3: they need to re sign, is that they wait and 474 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: they wait and they wait. It just seems like they 475 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 3: never have a plan that makes any kind of sense. 476 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 3: Like that's how you end up with Brian Schottenneimer as 477 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 3: your head coach, same kind of deal. Like they're basically 478 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: the New York Knicks, but Jerry is marginally more likable 479 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: than James Dolan, and the Knicks seem to have a 480 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: better core right now because you don't have to feel 481 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: quite as many guys. And they've they've kind of stumbled 482 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: into it. But when they fired their coach, they didn't 483 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,239 Speaker 3: have a plan here. You would feel like a lot 484 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 3: of guys would have taken that Cowboys job. But they 485 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: waited and they waited and they waited, and then Brian Schottenheimer, Yeah, 486 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 3: becomes the answer. I don't see the logic if you're 487 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: trying to win, but I no longer believe they are. 488 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: And even when Jerry's like, I just want to no, 489 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 3: you don't, man, because you make no decisions in a 490 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 3: prudent manner that would actually get you to that goal. 491 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 3: You end up paying more money for guys than you 492 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: would have paid them if you would have just done 493 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 3: it earlier. And I think you're more interested in making 494 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 3: sure that you can listen to the sound of your 495 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 3: own voice on every radio show, podcast and TV show 496 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 3: in the country than you are your football team winning 497 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 3: games on Sundays, and to me, let's just be real, 498 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: that's pathetic. Like, Okay, good business, I guess, except that 499 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 3: you're costing yourself more money a free agency. But the 500 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 3: legacy of the Dallas Cowboys diminishes by the year, as 501 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 3: does their relevance. We're getting to a point where we 502 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: talked about who was it that was born in two 503 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 3: thousand and six that you mentioned earlier. Oh yeah, Dylan Harby, 504 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Harper. Right, So we're getting to a point 505 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: where there are guys that are graduating high school who 506 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 3: have never seen Dallas. 507 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: Be good or all rade never like. 508 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 3: Think about that. Like with the nineties Cowboys teams that 509 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 3: we know so well, are those are like highlight reels 510 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 3: from the black and white era that we watched when 511 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 3: we were kids. Oh there's Johnny Unitis throwing the football around, 512 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 3: but we never got to see it. It's the same thing. 513 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 3: Here's we're getting further and further away from the Dallas Cowboys' 514 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: mystique and now it's just kind of like, yeah, they're 515 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 3: just sort of a team with the giant brand that 516 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 3: never does anything, and that's that's pathetic. Like the legacy 517 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 3: of the Cowboys post Jerry Jones. They're gonna have to 518 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 3: almost restart and tear the thing down to the studs 519 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 3: and make the right choices where they're just going to 520 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 3: fade into obscurity outside of just the cycle that keeps 521 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: them alive. 522 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 523 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 2: The craziest that is so the ninety five season, that's 524 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: the last time that Dallas has been in the NFC 525 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: Championship Game. That's the longest drought in the NFC. And 526 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: you start thinking about that, Jason, and you're like, wow, 527 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 2: is that right. You start going through all the teams 528 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 2: in the conference and you're like, man, the Bears, they've 529 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: been in the title game since the Cowboys in ninety five. 530 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, they were playing the Super Bowl. 531 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: They played in the Super Bowl, they were in the 532 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: NFC Title Game against the Packers. Remember the j Cutler injury, 533 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: and that'll Panthers played in two Super Bowls. That's right. 534 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 2: Look at Arizona, Arizona. It's like, man, they haven't been good. Well, 535 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: Kurt Warner was in the Super Bowl against the Steelers. 536 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: Every NFC team has been to the NFC Championship Game 537 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: at least since the Cowboys did it in ninety five, 538 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: that ninety five season. That's like, wow, that that's how 539 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: long it's been. And you know, the funniest thing, the 540 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: dumbest part of this whole Jerry Jones approach of like 541 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: if it's if it's quiet, I'll stir it up. If 542 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: they had done the smart thing, if they had extended 543 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: Micah Parsons way back in February he thought they had 544 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: a deal done, he actually involves the agent. You know, 545 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 2: they have a good business plan, they get it done, 546 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: they save their self themselves money in the long run. 547 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: Do you think that the Cowboys wouldn't be a story now? 548 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? They're always a story regardless. 549 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: So it's like you're doing all this stuff for effect, 550 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: this soap opera effect, and it's not helping anything. You 551 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: still would be talked about regardless. You'd just be talked 552 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: about for the right reasons, like, hey man, Dallas, they've 553 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: got Michah Parsons sign seal delivered. No drama, we're talking 554 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: about Dak, We're talking about how far can the Cowboys go? 555 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: We talk about them regardless. So this idea that you've 556 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: got to stir it up just so we focus on 557 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 2: them is totally wrong. We focus on them anyway. 558 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can still win and make good business decisions 559 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 3: for the actual organization. In terms of the sporting side, 560 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: you can still do that and be talked about. You 561 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: already have the built in advantage of being the Dallas Cowboys, 562 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 3: so you're gonna be at the top of mind anyway. 563 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 3: You might as well actually be really good as well 564 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 3: as like you don't. It doesn't always have to be tabloid. 565 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be the National Inquirer or the 566 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 3: sky is falling. It could be the exact opposite, but 567 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 3: that's not how Jerry has seen it. It's like, yeah, 568 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 3: would we be talking as much about the Cowboys over 569 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: the last month if it wasn't for the Michael Parsons thing. 570 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: Probably not, because we think, well, they're signed, sealed and delivered, 571 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: they're ready to go for the year. You know, they 572 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 3: have what they're looking forward. But it's still the Cowboys, 573 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 3: so you're still gonna be staying what of their prospects. 574 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 3: Everything about them is a debate, but it's not a 575 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 3: debate about them being good. It's just a debate about 576 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 3: this guy's not really that good and these guys aren't 577 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: gonna be very good, Like we get to it. This 578 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 3: is what's this is. I have thought this now for 579 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 3: a couple of years. But even with this Parsons thing, right, 580 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 3: I feel like Dallas has been home incredibly uninteresting as 581 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: a football team. Like I think that, yes, there's these 582 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 3: little stories and these little tidbits that create content, but 583 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 3: is it good content? Right? Like is this the kind 584 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 3: of content sports fans really desperately want? Or do we say, 585 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 3: here we go again with the Cowboys doing something ridiculous? 586 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 3: Like I just I find what they do on Sundays 587 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 3: to be incredibly mundane, Like I'm just not I'm not 588 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 3: interested when I see Dallas against anybody on TV at all. 589 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 3: And I feel like increasingly a lot of us in 590 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: the country, it's not even like Chiefs fatigue, or it's 591 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 3: not even fatigue. It's just like it's not gonna be good, 592 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: Like there's no reason for me to watch this because 593 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 3: the quality of the product is not gonna be worth 594 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 3: my time. 595 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: No, it's well said. It's kind of like even though 596 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 2: I disagree with it, I at least understand it. When 597 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 2: it comes to the Chiefs, They've been in the Super 598 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: Bowl five of the last six years. Yes, that's insane, 599 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 2: and so I some people are just worn out and 600 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: it's like, oh my gosh, can we get new blood 601 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: in here. But for people to feel that way about 602 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: the Cowboys who haven't even sniffed an NFC championship game, 603 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: let alone a Super Bowl appearance or winning the thing, 604 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. We're so worn out by 605 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: them because it's just obnoxious, avoidable drama that's thrown in 606 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: our face all the time, and you're like, oh my gosh, 607 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 2: you guys are just idiots, you know what I mean, 608 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: And we're over it. We're just over it as far 609 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: as that goes. Hey real fast, just a minute here, 610 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: But you see this with Matthew Stafford, Rams quarterback still 611 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: has that back issue he's got. 612 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 3: I'm worried, man, I'm worried about that. At his age 613 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 3: and just the amount of wear and tear on his body. 614 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 3: Dude's been a warrior as much as much as possible, considering, 615 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 3: you know, not having a O line and stuff for 616 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 3: a lot of his career in Detroit and all that. 617 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 3: But this back and having the epidural and all this. 618 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked if he doesn't play half the 619 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 3: season when all is said and done. I don't mean 620 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 3: he's gonna miss the first half of the season. I 621 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 3: just mean he's gonna be He's gonna be one of 622 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 3: those like he's gonna be perpetually questionable. 623 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like throughout the year he might be right. 624 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: It's an aggravated disc in his back. He missed practiced 625 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: again on uh on Wednesday, and so there's a he 626 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: spent time in a mobile rejuvenation chamber, and it's like, Wow, 627 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 2: that's where we're at right now. It's hey, man, whatever works. 628 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: Get a hyperbaric chamber, get a get voodoo going, get 629 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 2: a witch doctor. 630 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 3: I don't know what. 631 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever you gotta do to help his chances. But man, 632 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 2: it's uh, you could you might be right, j Martin, 633 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: you might have a decent dose of Jimmy g as 634 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 2: the Rams quarterback. If Stafford can't go, I don't know 635 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: how long this is going to be a lingering issue. 636 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 2: It very well could be throughout the entire season. We'll 637 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 2: see how that goes. But it's a team that went 638 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: toe to toe with the World Champs Philly in Philly, 639 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 2: and if staff D can't go for a full seventeen 640 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: man that could eat into their win total big time. 641 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: So something to keep your eye on all right. Coming 642 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: up next, some crazy stats. Are you in the market 643 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 2: for some crazy stats? Jay mart I've got some show 644 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: for you man. We got baseball, college football, and birthdays 645 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 2: craziness on the way. He's Jason Martin. I'm Brian, No. 646 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 2: We're in for two Pros and a cup of Joe 647 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio. 648 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 649 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 5: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 650 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 5: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 651 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jason Martin. I'm Brian know. 652 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 2: We're in for two Pros and a cup of Joe. 653 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 2: Have you missed anything on today's show? You want to 654 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: catch the podcast, just search Two Pros wherever you get 655 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 2: your podcasts. Right after the show, Today's podcast will be 656 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 2: posted our producer Lee Robert delap the Fourth. He works 657 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: tirelessly to make sure that is posted right on time. 658 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 2: You know it, Loraina yells at him. If it's not, 659 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: you know, it's motivation shull. We do though, that's exactly right. 660 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 2: We get stuff done around here at FSR. Be sure 661 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 2: to follow the podcast rate at five stars. You can 662 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 2: even provide a review. Again, just search two pros wherever 663 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 2: you get your podcasts and you'll see today's full show 664 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 2: and a best of version posted right after the end 665 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 2: of the show. 666 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 3: Thank you as for the Internet. 667 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 2: That is right, no doubt about that. I got some 668 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 2: crazy stats for you over here. J Mart, you know 669 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 2: you want baseball. You want college football first? What are 670 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: you in the market for. 671 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 3: I'll do college football? 672 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 2: Okay, I know you're a college football guy. So the 673 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: AP Top twenty five was released earlier this week, Right, 674 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,439 Speaker 2: we get the top the AP Top twenty five poll, 675 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 2: first version of it. This will be the first time 676 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 2: in program history that Texas will enter the season as 677 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 2: the number one team in the nation. Does not blow 678 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 2: your mind. 679 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 3: It's crazy. I can't. 680 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 2: I can't believe that's the case. They didn't one time, 681 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 2: never happened. 682 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 5: Wow. 683 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 3: It seems crazy to me because they're always overrated. Yeah right, yeah, 684 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 3: exactly historically. I don't mean like right, and I actually 685 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 3: think they're rated properly right now. I'm just generally they're 686 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 3: a team that gets the benefit of the doubt. Where 687 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 3: a lot of others don't just because of the brand. 688 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah right, So I would have thought at one point 689 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 2: some time that they would have been like a preseason 690 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 2: number one team. I guess not his first time. That 691 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 2: blows my mind. Some baseball stuff that is mind blowing 692 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: as well. How about this? I love this The Colorado Rockies. 693 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 2: They are a dumpster fire. 694 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 4: Right. 695 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 2: They've won thirty two games this season. That's the fewest 696 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: in all of Major League Baseball. But they have six 697 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 2: wins after trailing in the ninth inning. That's the most 698 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball. They did it again against my 699 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 2: Cardinals yesterday, hit a two run homer in the ninth 700 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 2: they were trailing. They ended up winning by one run. 701 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 2: Fewest wins in the year, but the most wins when 702 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 2: they're trailing in the ninth inning. That's that's freaking crazy. 703 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 2: How does that even happen? 704 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 3: That is nuts? Like I said, I've said this before, 705 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 3: but like looking at their record this year, the fact 706 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 3: they have to play out the rest of the season 707 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 3: like it's cruel. I understand you're playing major League baseball, 708 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 3: but dude, how how fun it could it possibly be 709 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 3: to come to work being that bad and being like, 710 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 3: I mean, it's been this bad, it's been this way. 711 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 3: They've been out of it since like the third week 712 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 3: of the season. It's got worse and worse and worse 713 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 3: and worse. Like I understand maybe they at this point 714 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 3: it's comically like it's so bad it's good, almost like 715 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 3: a cult feeling there, but like, what are you going 716 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 3: to work to do? Play cards in the dugout? Like 717 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 3: what I don't under yeah, Like what do you what 718 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,479 Speaker 3: are you coming to work to do at this point? 719 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 3: Are you just competing for another job with a reel 720 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 3: baseball team next year or that's tough? Man, Like, I 721 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 3: just feel like the depression would have set in on 722 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 3: a lot of those guys. 723 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 2: Man, and day in day out, you know, just get 724 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 2: your teeth kicked in like that. That's not great. It's 725 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 2: not really uplifting, you know, and then you lose faith 726 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 2: in your teammates where it's like, hey, we have on 727 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 2: the mounda tonight, gomber, Oh okay, this should be fun. 728 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 2: You know, it's just rough. Two others. So the Angels, 729 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 2: they're three games under five hundred. Their record is fifty 730 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 2: nine and sixty two. This year they're six and zero 731 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 2: against the Dodgers. How wild is that as they're smacking 732 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 2: around the Dodgers. They did it again last night, and 733 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 2: the Brewers they're out of their freaking minds right now. 734 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 2: They've won twelve straight free burgers for the entire city 735 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 2: of Milwaukee. How about that? There's a place. What's the 736 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 2: name of this place again? Lee, I forget it's uh, 737 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 2: we were looking it up earlier. George Weber. Yeah. Is 738 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 2: it Weber or is it Weaver? I'm sorry, I don't 739 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 2: think it's either. It's like George something. But you connected 740 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 2: it to Weber Weber somehow. I think it's totally different. 741 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 2: George Webb, George Weberg, George web there you go, thank you. Yeah, 742 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: apparently it's this place in Milwaukee. They've offered this for 743 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 2: a long long time. Now it's twelve straight wins. Is 744 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 2: the threshold free burgers for everybody in Milwaukee? That's how 745 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 2: crazy the Brewers are playing right now. How about that? 746 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's if you're getting free burgers that often, 747 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 3: that's a positive, right, Like, I mean a lot of 748 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 3: local sports markets have stuff like that. I know right 749 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 3: here in Nashville when the Predators would win, you know, 750 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 3: there would be frosties all around Nashville and things like that. 751 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 3: It's a positive. It's a good thing to have. It 752 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 3: might not be good for well, actually it's probably good 753 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 3: for the cardiologists around the Milwaukee area as well. I 754 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 3: don't know as much for like the health of the 755 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 3: overall city. But yeh man, food is expensive, and fast 756 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 3: food has grown in terms of how much it costs. 757 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 3: I don't eat fast food anymore, so I didn't realize 758 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 3: how much it had gone up. But I read an article. 759 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,439 Speaker 3: I was just like, wait, it costs how much? So, yeah, 760 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 3: that's actually a pretty good deal there. 761 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 2: Not bad. Yeah, the Brewers this record since July sixth, 762 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: they're twenty seven and four. They're out of their minds 763 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 2: right now. Now I mentioned birthdays, by the way, shout 764 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 2: out August fourteenth. We got some famous birthdays. How about 765 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 2: this trio here? 766 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 3: J Martin? 767 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,439 Speaker 2: All right, we got Steve Martin, right good comedian yep, 768 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 2: Magic Johnson, Okay, halle Berry. That's a strong three famous 769 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 2: birthdays on August fourteenth right there. 770 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 3: I would say that's very very good. Steve Martin might 771 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 3: be one of the just most gifted comedian, just talented 772 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 3: people in all of Hollywood. I've always found him to 773 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 3: be vastly underrated by a lot of people. 774 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, funny dude, absolutely, And this blows my mind too. 775 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 2: This might blow my mind more than anything else. Halle 776 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 2: Berry is fifth fifty nine. He's fifty nine years old. 777 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 2: Is too beautiful? 778 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 3: Wow, good for her. 779 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 2: Hey, fun hanging with you, Jane Martin. Everybody, have a 780 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 2: good day. We'll catch you soon.