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Speaker 3: Is there any company that could overtake Apple in third place? O?

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Speaker 3: Will Apple take back the number one spot a few years?

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Speaker 1: Game? Stop? What's another me?

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Speaker 4: Quoting Joe like uh Nicola, I mean.

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Speaker 1: It depends on what timeframe we're talking.

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Speaker 4: If we're talking if Apple does not invest into AI

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Speaker 4: it's a great question. Shit, I can see a glimber

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Speaker 4: like so Saudi Aramicco taking it, but I think someone

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Speaker 4: in the AI space could definitely take it, and an

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Speaker 4: imperfect world if they don't make an investment. By twenty thirty,

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Speaker 4: I think Apple will be fifth in terms of market cap.

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Speaker 4: That's why I keep beating this drum about them needing

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Speaker 4: to make a course correction. But where's Meta.

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Speaker 5: Meta is number sitting, Meta's number six.

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Speaker 3: And the people we're talking about market caps for the

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Speaker 3: market cap yep, total market aps. So right now you

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Speaker 5: So top five ten, Yeah, let's do ten.

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Speaker 2: So at ten we got Berkshire Hathaway at a little

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Speaker 2: over one trillion. Taiwan Semi is nine, broad Comments eight,

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Speaker 2: sauya A, Ramico is seven, Meta is six, Google is five,

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Speaker 2: Amazon is four, Apple is three, Microsoft is two, and

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Speaker 1: Oh. If Apple don't get this together, Google can take that.

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Speaker 2: I think number four is I mean, it's the obvious, right,

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Speaker 2: Amazon is trailing it.

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Speaker 1: We know what the concerns me.

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Speaker 4: There's profit margins, so how much they can reinvest in

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Speaker 4: they in practice the space. That's the only part I'm

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Speaker 4: concerned about. Google's done a great job of well serge

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Speaker 2: Like profit margin and I'm glad you said that, because

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Speaker 4: That's true, but I think they have hard fixed cost

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Speaker 4: that may be hard to be restructured. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: Theyo is better than anything. And I know everybody that

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Speaker 1: It is the sweetest phenomenal.

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Speaker 4: So I can see now if they course correct in

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Speaker 4: And the thing I can say about Zuckerberg, you can

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Speaker 1: And he's putting capital.

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Speaker 4: Behind the AI investment to get them from open ai

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Speaker 4: an AI company. Why And for everyone who may say this,

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Speaker 4: stop saying that. I'm talking to people that work in HQ.

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Speaker 4: They have the same It's the leadership thing. It's not

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Speaker 1: Is leadership is afraid of what to do.

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Speaker 4: And it's a great lesson of you can't miss time

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Speaker 1: Can't do it.

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Speaker 4: Every year invest fast gets better in terms of production,

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Speaker 4: sound quality. I'm here, y'all said, I'm still AI gradings, artlings,

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Speaker 4: all that cool. You have to invest into the project

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Speaker 4: to make it better. And I hate it saying it,

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Speaker 4: but Apple still has the worst AI product in cerrie,

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Speaker 4: I can't even when I do market research, I have

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Speaker 4: actual recantation of what's happening in the market. But you

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Speaker 2: So you got to maybe potentially be falling to five

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Speaker 2: We got three companies at three trillion.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: That is pretty amazing, and in videos is not far

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Speaker 1: Do you think Apple couldn't have invested in core.

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Speaker 1: They could have just integrated something in the Apple wallet

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they said, we gotta watch, we gotta

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Speaker 2: The corew situation is interesting because even like Sam, we

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Speaker 4: Smart money, same as Apple went away from Intel. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: same place. But I think the greatest business lesson in

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Speaker 4: this as you can. We can talk about it on

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Speaker 4: Blackout as well, but you can either focus on beating

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Speaker 4: Amazon traditionally has focused on what is best for the

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Speaker 4: means they are running negative in terms of profitability for

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Speaker 4: ten to twenty years. To give you quicker delivery, and

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Speaker 4: then the customers will love you so much they'll scale

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Speaker 1: The amplification of their happiness.

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Speaker 5: But the core, I mean at the core.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we know the e commerce business, but the money

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Speaker 2: maker is the cloud service.

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Speaker 2: AWS is a large generator. As you get more AI,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely a well timed, great investment into the future.

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Speaker 4: And I think we're getting to that point. We're getting

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Speaker 4: me change my stance on Apple. I still believe in

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Speaker 4: it as a company to invest in. It is still there,

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Speaker 4: That would be an investment into the future. Not glass

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Speaker 4: Robin Hood I think was attacked because it decentralized investment

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Speaker 4: That you can hold with a great executive and a

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Speaker 4: eleven to fifteen dollars range, I've said it before, you

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Speaker 4: want to stack as many shares as you can before

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Speaker 4: they take off, saying with Nvidia, saying with AMD, we

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Speaker 4: can go to Tesla before Kathy Wood made her proclamation

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Speaker 4: took off to the upside. If you believe in a

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Speaker 4: great company, you should throw as many shares as you

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Speaker 4: can into it. And I've always said you want to

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Speaker 4: you can write your own ticket for life for how

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Speaker 4: So don't look at it so much of a dead chart,

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Speaker 4: but as the company.

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Speaker 1: Dead or not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean from a technical standpoint, I would

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Speaker 2: interested in the company, look at the value on How

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Speaker 2: I was training on a daily basis, I was trading

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Speaker 2: monthly basis, I would look at the trends of the can.

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Speaker 2: Like if you use candlesticks, look at the trends and

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Speaker 2: where they're going. You can see momentum, right. I think

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Speaker 2: just use a singular line. Yeah, it looks pretty preschool.

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Speaker 2: But if you just put candles on, you start seeing momentum.

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Speaker 2: You see green, you see red. You look at which

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