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Speaker 1: Podcasts and all other platforms. Welcome to Strictly Business Varieties,
Speaker 1: weekly podcast featuring conversations with industry leaders about the business
Speaker 1: of media and entertainment. I'm Cynthia Littleton, business editor for
Speaker 1: Variety Today. My guest is Bob Greenblatt, chairman of Warner
Speaker 1: Media Entertainment and Direct to Consumer. Greenblatt has a long
Speaker 1: resume in the television business. He's known for turning around
Speaker 1: the fortunes of Showtime and NBC. Since March of last year,
Speaker 1: he's been the executive leading the charge behind HBO Max,
Speaker 1: the streaming service from Warner Media that makes its debut
Speaker 1: today it's a four billion dollar bet for a T
Speaker 1: and T that's streaming is the future profit engine for
Speaker 1: its media businesses. Greenblatton I spoke on May eleventh, is
Speaker 1: the two week countdown to launch began. Hello Bob, good
Speaker 1: to see you again. Thanks for taking time out to
Speaker 1: join us my pleasure. You're two weeks and three days
Speaker 1: from launch. Yeah, counting right, HBO Max you might have
Speaker 1: heard something about it. Tell us kind of at this stage,
Speaker 1: where are you in terms of putting final bells and whistles?
Speaker 1: Are you looking at programming? What? What kind of stuff
Speaker 1: are you doing as the two week countdown begins? Well, honestly,
Speaker 1: we're in the final stages on everything relating to the platform,
Speaker 1: the app, the content, and you know, once we get
Speaker 1: to May, which is the launch date, it won't be
Speaker 1: really the end of the process. It really is just
Speaker 1: the beginning. But I will say, um, in these last
Speaker 1: eight weeks we've been doing all of this largely from home,
Speaker 1: and it's quite remarkable the degree to which everyone has
Speaker 1: been able to deliver um. But the you know, the technology,
Speaker 1: the platform, everything has uh you know, an up to
Speaker 1: the last deadline sort of delivery on it. So everyone's
Speaker 1: working away around the clock, putting a finishing touches on
Speaker 1: original content, look at everything. But you know, we're in
Speaker 1: really really good shape. I know that you've been test
Speaker 1: driving this, test driving HBO Max with internal users. What
Speaker 1: what kind of feedback have you gotten? Yes, I mean
Speaker 1: this is a process. When you take something like this
Speaker 1: to market, you really want to show it to you know,
Speaker 1: certain groups of people internally, and you know, we call
Speaker 1: that the beta phase and really just tested. A lot
Speaker 1: of the bugs will present themselves in the technology. Those
Speaker 1: will get worked out. But it's really exciting to actually
Speaker 1: see it up and running. Something that has been on
Speaker 1: a drawing board for you know, so long. You actually
Speaker 1: get to see with it and and see it and
Speaker 1: play with it. And uh, it's not all in there
Speaker 1: yet because as I said, everything is being delivered, you know,
Speaker 1: right up for the last minute. But we've gotten great,
Speaker 1: great feedback, um, some really good constructive comments from people. Um.
Speaker 1: And you know, again the tech teams have just been
Speaker 1: so on it in terms of making sure this platform
Speaker 1: runs seamlessly. And I mean that's what you know the
Speaker 1: customer expects. Are there elements to the navigation or to
Speaker 1: the interface that you think are going to wow people.
Speaker 1: Can you give us any flavor of what that's gonna
Speaker 1: look like? You know, we will have UM I think
Speaker 1: just overall, it looks beautiful and it will run, you know, perfectly.
Speaker 1: There are some things we've talked about over the last
Speaker 1: few months that some will be available at day one,
Speaker 1: some will be rolled out in the months thereafter. But
Speaker 1: we're gonna do some some interesting curation UM down the road.
Speaker 1: What what you will see at launch are UM something
Speaker 1: we call programming hubs content hubs, which I think is
Speaker 1: new UM in the world of streaming platforms, and that is,
Speaker 1: once you scroll down beyond some of the top carousels,
Speaker 1: you will see groupings of programs of programming according to
Speaker 1: their brands. For instance, you know there'll be a big
Speaker 1: HBO hubs. So when you go on to the HBO
Speaker 1: Max platform, which has HBO as well as so much more,
Speaker 1: you could just roll right down to the HBO hub,
Speaker 1: you hit that button and then you are immediately into
Speaker 1: sort of an HBO created world. But there will be
Speaker 1: other brands that you can do that with as well, UM,
Speaker 1: such as UM you know, adult swim Turner, classic movies, UM, anime,
Speaker 1: different different kinds of programming and I think that's unique UM.
Speaker 1: And you know, we're just trying to find new ways
Speaker 1: for people to UM navigate through a platform. I think
Speaker 1: we're all frustrated to some degree with the volume of
Speaker 1: these platforms, and you know, you can scroll this way,
Speaker 1: that way, up and down and be frustrated at not
Speaker 1: finding something unless you search for it. UM. And we're
Speaker 1: trying to do some things organizationally which I think will
Speaker 1: make a difference. And you know, there's a lot more
Speaker 1: to talk about there, but I really look forward to
Speaker 1: you experiencing it for the first time. And you know
Speaker 1: you'll see care cells where we group friends episodes according
Speaker 1: to certain you know, funny and interesting sort of themes,
Speaker 1: and lots of really fun curation things which we're excited about.
Speaker 1: I know from talking to you and your team that curation, curation,
Speaker 1: curation is such a big part of that. Is some
Speaker 1: of that in response to what we're hearing from the
Speaker 1: industry about feeling like some service, some of the larger
Speaker 1: services can just be like a warehouse where it's not
Speaker 1: is conducive for people to you know, people to find
Speaker 1: find their shows, yes, and you know it's not really
Speaker 1: for me to denigrate any of the existing services, because
Speaker 1: we all use them and enjoy them, um, but we
Speaker 1: really uh, you know thematically for this this new product,
Speaker 1: we wanted to go with the basic sort of underlying
Speaker 1: principles of what HBO is, and an HBO we know
Speaker 1: is not only high quality, but it's one of the
Speaker 1: best curated systems in the world. Right. They don't make
Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of original shows, UM, but
Speaker 1: the shows they make are really at the highest quality,
Speaker 1: and so you come to expect that you go to HBO,
Speaker 1: even if it's not your personal taste, you're going to
Speaker 1: see nothing but high level quality program So in that way,
Speaker 1: we're trying to curate that throughout the entire platform UM
Speaker 1: and all the new Max originals, and even the library content.
Speaker 1: You know, we have thousands of hours of movies from
Speaker 1: the great Warner Brothers film library and television shows UM
Speaker 1: as well. And yet we didn't put everything in we
Speaker 1: could have, but we decided to really go through those
Speaker 1: libraries and eliminate a lot of the stuff that we
Speaker 1: knew you would never want to watch. So overall, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the distinguishing factors of our platform.
Speaker 1: Is that we're really trying to make it, you know.
Speaker 1: Rated I know the word is overused, but I haven't
Speaker 1: done a better one yet, But we really are, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to adhere to that. UM. Let me ask a
Speaker 1: specific question on HBO when you go to HBO Max
Speaker 1: on the HBO hub, when you pull that up, will
Speaker 1: it look like what HBO now looks like? Will it be?
Speaker 1: Will you go to that? It will be it? Will
Speaker 1: it be a different environment for HBO that we've seen before?
Speaker 1: Good question. It's a it's a different environment because it's
Speaker 1: it's along the lines of what the new HBO Max
Speaker 1: app is overall, which visually is is more arresting and
Speaker 1: different than what the current HBO Now service is. UM. Also,
Speaker 1: in HBO Now, I think, you know, programming is mostly
Speaker 1: organized alphabetically. You know, we've built off the Now platform technically,
Speaker 1: and we have extertise with the Now product that's been
Speaker 1: in the market for the last you know, four or
Speaker 1: five years. UM. But it was a simpler product, right
Speaker 1: and and didn't scale in terms of users, So there
Speaker 1: were things that we just never did. UM. Those are
Speaker 1: all now going to be available in hbox. And when
Speaker 1: you go into the HBO Hub. There is so much
Speaker 1: more to be offered UM in the hub itself. Do
Speaker 1: you feel any new programming venture, especially on this scale
Speaker 1: with this company is going to be very high stakes?
Speaker 1: Does it feel more so because the HBO brand is
Speaker 1: imbued in this product. Yes, I mean anything you bring
Speaker 1: to market in this space is high stakes. I mean,
Speaker 1: we just uh Disney transform their entire company to bring
Speaker 1: you know, plus to market and what a stunning success
Speaker 1: that is. UM. So Yes, the stakes are really high.
Speaker 1: And we knew that HBO, being fundamental to the platform UM,
Speaker 1: was gonna keep the stakes really high for us as well. UM.
Speaker 1: And yet we also knew that that brand means something
Speaker 1: to the audience not only here domestically, but around the world.
Speaker 1: And we felt that, UM, we wanted to assign ourselves
Speaker 1: the task of any of the programming that we add
Speaker 1: to this service, to this to this platform alongside the
Speaker 1: HBO service has got to be at that kind of
Speaker 1: quality level. And as I said, the libraries have the
Speaker 1: high quality. Whatever we are acquiring, UM, the doctor Who Library,
Speaker 1: you know, UM, the Studio Ghibli Library. I mean, we're
Speaker 1: really trying to go for things that are of the
Speaker 1: highest quality Sesame Street, which was also in HBO originally
Speaker 1: but kind of an island in in that you know,
Speaker 1: in that service, UM really bringing back to the four
Speaker 1: and you know, Sesame Street is arguably one of the
Speaker 1: greatest brands for children and educational television. So we tasked
Speaker 1: ourselves with UM rising to the level of HBO for
Speaker 1: anything that's in the service. Of course that's going to
Speaker 1: be subjective to a certain degree, but we really are
Speaker 1: serious about putting this out as the highest quality service
Speaker 1: that you know, a platform that you can get and
Speaker 1: I know you have. The company has stated a goal
Speaker 1: excuse me, of fifty million domestic subscribers by I know.
Speaker 1: Part of the impetus for all of this has been
Speaker 1: to grow to give the mothership HBO a bigger platform.
Speaker 1: Do you feel that you know that the rising tide
Speaker 1: year is going to lift all boats that HBO Max
Speaker 1: will be a very nice engine for Warner Media and
Speaker 1: a very nice engine for HBO, which has been despite
Speaker 1: the digital gains, it has been relatively stagnanted around thirty
Speaker 1: three million subscribers for the last you know, five to
Speaker 1: eight years. I believe, yes, I think you've put your
Speaker 1: finger on it exactly right. Um, HBO is a phenomenal product,
Speaker 1: but um, there's a ceiling to it, and as you said,
Speaker 1: it's sort of been at that ceiling for a few
Speaker 1: years as the rest of the world has gone much
Speaker 1: more aggressively to these larger streaming platforms. And so I
Speaker 1: think not only will we be able to bring all
Speaker 1: of the Warner Media assets together in this platform, um,
Speaker 1: but one of the benefits of doing it, if we
Speaker 1: if we do it correctly, is HBO, the great HBO service,
Speaker 1: which is now fifty years old, right, will be exposed
Speaker 1: to many, many more people. UM, some of whom you
Speaker 1: know probably think HBO is not for me. You know,
Speaker 1: it's the programming is mostly adult programming. You know, it's
Speaker 1: a certain kind of uh programming. They don't do much
Speaker 1: reality shows, much on scripted outside from you documentaries, So
Speaker 1: there are things not in HBO that people you know,
Speaker 1: I thought, well, it's not for me. I hope we
Speaker 1: can expose a lot of those people to this product.
Speaker 1: I mean this this service by virtue of it being
Speaker 1: part of the overall platform, and then you know, all
Speaker 1: the content will be there together and and I hope
Speaker 1: will increase the you know, the the exposure for for
Speaker 1: HBO in general. UM, I know, obviously you must be
Speaker 1: somewhat disappointed. You must be disappointed that they you had
Speaker 1: plans to launch with some fanfare and the reunion of friends,
Speaker 1: six actors that aren't in the same place together very often. UM.
Speaker 1: Is that did you feel like when it became clear
Speaker 1: that in pandemic conditions that that that reunion special was
Speaker 1: not going to happen? Did you did you scramble at
Speaker 1: all to try something, to try to find some kind
Speaker 1: of a replacement event or how did how did you
Speaker 1: grapple with that curveball? Well, at first we were in
Speaker 1: denial right that it would be um delayed that long,
Speaker 1: as I think we all were when this started. At
Speaker 1: first we thought, oh, shows will be you know, delayed
Speaker 1: for a month or or two at the most. And
Speaker 1: now it seems like it's going to be you know,
Speaker 1: far longer than that. Um. And uh, we're holding out
Speaker 1: for being able to get this special done hopefully by
Speaker 1: the end of the summer, if if the stars aligned
Speaker 1: and we can get back into production. UM. We do
Speaker 1: think there's a value to having a big, raucous live
Speaker 1: audience to experience these six great friends coming back together,
Speaker 1: and you know, we didn't want to just suddenly do
Speaker 1: it on a web call with you know, six squares
Speaker 1: and you know people shooting from their kitchens and their bedrooms. UM.
Speaker 1: Now I reserve the right to say, if this goes on,
Speaker 1: you know, indefinitely, we may you know go more to
Speaker 1: to a virtual route if if it is delayed too long.
Speaker 1: But at the moment, we're trying to you know, look
Speaker 1: to the few you and get this thing done, um
Speaker 1: in a more conventional way. And UM, I think it's
Speaker 1: worth waiting for we were we would have loved to
Speaker 1: have had it on day one. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: if we can get it watched in the fall, um,
Speaker 1: I think it'll be something that we can you know,
Speaker 1: have the audience really looking forward to as well. You
Speaker 1: could almost you know, a second wave of another wave
Speaker 1: of marketing around it. Well, like I said at the beginning,
Speaker 1: is just the start of the marathon, and we need
Speaker 1: to have you know, events like the Friends reunion every
Speaker 1: several months, if not you know, longer, now we'll never
Speaker 1: have that you know, that perfect storm again. But it's
Speaker 1: incumbent on us to you know, have one thing after
Speaker 1: another that keeps the audience really really adage. We'll be
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Speaker 1: and all other platforms. Welcome back to Strictly Business. Here's
Speaker 1: more of my conversation with Warner Media's Bob Green Black.
Speaker 1: You've had obviously the pandemic conditions have have thrown a
Speaker 1: wrench into into some of your original programming plans, but
Speaker 1: you didn't have a ton beyond the Friend especially, you
Speaker 1: didn't have a ton that was going to be on
Speaker 1: at launch. You really are so much of the HBO
Speaker 1: Max sort of selling proposition to the public is the
Speaker 1: depth of this library incredible movies and incredible shows. Do
Speaker 1: you feel like that's a competitive differentiator for you because
Speaker 1: it is so deep, especially with adult programming. M Yes,
Speaker 1: I agree with that, but I would also just say that, um,
Speaker 1: you know, when you look at the original programming of
Speaker 1: HBO again, since the service is part of HBO Max,
Speaker 1: all of the new HBO original programming from Perry Mason
Speaker 1: which is coming up this summer, you know, to Lovecraft Country, Um,
Speaker 1: all those shows, the Undoing and the Fall with Nicole
Speaker 1: Kidman and you Grant will be part of you know,
Speaker 1: HBO Max. And then there's actually quite a lot of
Speaker 1: Max originals, which is the additional original content that we're
Speaker 1: building around the HBO shows. Um. We're launching with six
Speaker 1: shows those on day one, including a show you know,
Speaker 1: starting the wonderful Anna Kendrick called love Life. We have
Speaker 1: the Elmo talk show for kids. We have a great
Speaker 1: reality show called Legendary. UM, we have a really searing
Speaker 1: documentary called On the Record. We're gonna have a lot
Speaker 1: of original programming on the Max side of things as well. UM,
Speaker 1: and then it's our job to keep those coming as
Speaker 1: the summer you know rolls on. But but yes, the
Speaker 1: libraries and the acquisitions that we've made friends South Park,
Speaker 1: you know, Big Bang theory. Um, the list goes on
Speaker 1: and on the west wing will be there. Those really
Speaker 1: are also I think differentiators for us, And when you
Speaker 1: put it all together, I think it's a really extraordinary value.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, you know, um, Bob, you've been
Speaker 1: you've been involved with a lot of networks over the years.
Speaker 1: You've you've helped you know, you've come into networks, but
Speaker 1: we're in a in a bad place and lifted them up.
Speaker 1: You brought you know, during your time at show time,
Speaker 1: you really brought that company into the original series business.
Speaker 1: What what is different about doing this kind of a
Speaker 1: launch for something for a channel that is not a
Speaker 1: linear channel but but an on demand collection. Does it
Speaker 1: change the way you think about the positioning, the marketing,
Speaker 1: how you go about bringing an audience two an on
Speaker 1: demand network versus versus a linear network where you can
Speaker 1: say tune in Sunday night at nine. Yes, Um, honestly, yes,
Speaker 1: I mean I think there's a real uh, you know
Speaker 1: goal too. And it's familiar to us to bringing an
Speaker 1: audience to something new, a brand new platform in which
Speaker 1: we are you know, branding the new service and getting
Speaker 1: it out into you know, the world at large and
Speaker 1: you know, by and large, we're doing you know, the
Speaker 1: marketing outreach in the same way we would do a
Speaker 1: launch you know, on on any you know sort of
Speaker 1: big network. UM. However, once you get the platform up
Speaker 1: and running and the customers start coming, then you have
Speaker 1: data and insights that it come directly from the viewing
Speaker 1: patterns of these audiences, and they start telling you in
Speaker 1: a much more sophisticated and I would say maybe accurate
Speaker 1: way than Nielsen does UM what people are watching and
Speaker 1: what they want to watch, and and then we start
Speaker 1: to UM adjust the programming accordingly UM and at the
Speaker 1: same time market to them in a growth and subscription way,
Speaker 1: very differently than you know, taking a thirty second spot
Speaker 1: somewhere or an outdoor billboard. Those UM marketing plans, which
Speaker 1: are very complex and strategic, you know, go right to
Speaker 1: the audience, the customer themselves, UM and in different demos
Speaker 1: and you know groups of how people watch certain shows,
Speaker 1: and the sophistication of that is really what I think
Speaker 1: will UM you know, differentiate us from our competitors as
Speaker 1: well as all of our all of the streaming platforms
Speaker 1: from traditional media. And it really is a whole new
Speaker 1: way of speaking directly to you know, the customer. And
Speaker 1: you must already, as you've said, this is day one,
Speaker 1: is day one. You you've said that you've had you
Speaker 1: plan to have iterations every eight weeks or so. Are
Speaker 1: you already looking down the road to a time when
Speaker 1: you might have more, you know, some form of CNN
Speaker 1: on HBO act, you might have other elements from the
Speaker 1: Warner Media world adding you know, flowing into that hub.
Speaker 1: You mean sort of as a as a standalone service
Speaker 1: that we add to the platform or do you mean
Speaker 1: programming from those more more programming coming in from Yes,
Speaker 1: in fact, we are you know, CNN. I think people
Speaker 1: know this have an incredible movie division and they make
Speaker 1: sclose and in films, they make documentaries, um. And we
Speaker 1: are ordering several new documentaries from them as well as
Speaker 1: um many things from their library. Um saying with other
Speaker 1: networks and services across the Warner Brothers portfolio, whether it's
Speaker 1: Adult Swim or the cartoon network. We have all the
Speaker 1: Hanna Bear hand of Barbara cartoons and you know, all
Speaker 1: the great Warner Brothers animation and we've just ordered you know,
Speaker 1: eighty new Loony tunes, um, you know, to go along
Speaker 1: with the loom this library that we have, so there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of things from the Warner Brothers assets,
Speaker 1: new versions of them, on the on the on the
Speaker 1: service and the platform. Um. And you know, at the
Speaker 1: same time, we're also acquiring things outside the company, So
Speaker 1: there's a voracious appetite you know, that needs to be
Speaker 1: fed on this platform. Um. But I will say Warner
Speaker 1: Brothers brings us so many things right from the get go,
Speaker 1: and we've spent the last year mining through what all
Speaker 1: those are and how can we do you know, new
Speaker 1: and updated regions of The Gossip Girl, you know, is
Speaker 1: a good example from Warner by this television which will
Speaker 1: be coming later in the year. Um, and you know,
Speaker 1: we're thrilled to have it. So we were really in
Speaker 1: a great position with the assets we already own. Um.
Speaker 1: But we're really not stopping there. It goes, it goes
Speaker 1: well beyond that. M Um. Bob, you came into Warner
Speaker 1: Media in March of nineteen, so you came in fairly
Speaker 1: fairly early on, but you came into a situation where
Speaker 1: people were already working on the thing that would become HBO. Max.
Speaker 1: What was challenging for you as a leader coming into
Speaker 1: something that was sort of already sort of already moving
Speaker 1: in one direction, but you were tasked with bringing it
Speaker 1: all together. What would you say were some of the
Speaker 1: challenges especially early on. Well, the good news is that
Speaker 1: it wasn't that far along UM. There were only a
Speaker 1: couple of key people that were starting to work on
Speaker 1: the tech platform and very early stages of new content. UM.
Speaker 1: So I did have the ability to get in there
Speaker 1: really at the beginning of it all. But it was
Speaker 1: like inventing, not inventing, but setting up almost an entirely
Speaker 1: new network. And I know network is sort of an
Speaker 1: old fashioned UM comparison, but for me, having come from
Speaker 1: various networks, it was appropriate because we had to come
Speaker 1: up with, you know, a content group and an acquisitions
Speaker 1: group and a scheduling group. I mean, we are going
Speaker 1: to schedule HBO Max in a way that is done
Speaker 1: with some of the old fashioned way, with people coming
Speaker 1: up with what shows are delivered when and what shows
Speaker 1: they should go with. And um, obviously the technical side
Speaker 1: of it that the development of product was an enormous undertaking.
Speaker 1: We have great assets in the overall a T and
Speaker 1: T world. Otter Media was already at the company. So
Speaker 1: we had the ability to draft Tony Consalvas and Andy
Speaker 1: Forcell over to the Max side of the company. And
Speaker 1: he was at Kulu at the beginning. And Tony has
Speaker 1: been involved in many of the digital enterprises at A
Speaker 1: T and T. So UM, I really just tried to
Speaker 1: assemble all the right people and try to organize it um.
Speaker 1: And I will say it was done quickly. Um. And
Speaker 1: it's remarkable to me that only fourteen or fifteen months
Speaker 1: after almost the original inception of this new business, it's
Speaker 1: going to be launched. UM. And we're really proud of
Speaker 1: where we are. I say that, you know, with with
Speaker 1: all due uh you know, sort of humility. Where will
Speaker 1: you be on the I guess I should ask where where?
Speaker 1: Where had you plan to be? If the situation had
Speaker 1: been normal, would you have all been together? Probably? And
Speaker 1: you know we were we were playing an enormous launch
Speaker 1: party that everyone was going to come to. And um,
Speaker 1: you know, Hollywood loves the launch party, so we were
Speaker 1: all excited about that a lot. Probably you know, we
Speaker 1: hadn't even gotten that far into planning. But but most
Speaker 1: likely we did redirect all of our pr efforts in
Speaker 1: the last you know, eight weeks into either virtual events,
Speaker 1: and we've had a number of them online with people. UM,
Speaker 1: but uh, you know we all would have been together
Speaker 1: in some former fashion. I think in this case, I
Speaker 1: will just probably tick to my bed on the twenty
Speaker 1: seven and I want to get up because it's really
Speaker 1: been you know, a long haul for the past year. Um,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we all feel we're feeling on
Speaker 1: this relief of it. And then of course, like I
Speaker 1: keep saying the broken record, it ain't over. We just
Speaker 1: have to then, you know, go go go, you know,
Speaker 1: until you know time runs out. Basically, So much for
Speaker 1: taking the time out, good luck with everything. Is great
Speaker 1: to speak with you as always, greatly appreciate it. Thank you,
Speaker 1: love to see you to be m Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1: Be sure to tune in next week for another episode
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Speaker 1: Pacino and Logan Leharman, join host Michael Ian Black as
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