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Speaker 1: the episode. Danny Brown, what's up?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 1: What's been the most persistent thought on your mind lately?
Speaker 2: Persistent thought on my mind?
Speaker 3: I just really been working on music a lot, so
Speaker 3: just getting back into being like creative and shit and
Speaker 3: starting to try to like, you know, find my foot
Speaker 3: and I mean, I guess, you know, I've been doing
Speaker 3: music for a long time, but still finding new ways,
Speaker 3: you know, still learning. So I guess that's been the
Speaker 3: most thing for me, just studying, you know, going back
Speaker 3: listening to a lot of old albums that I grew
Speaker 3: up on and stuff, and trying to remind myself while
Speaker 3: I liked it, you know, and try to you know,
Speaker 3: incorporate that into what I do.
Speaker 1: What kind of conclusions of you have you come to
Speaker 1: in this studying and learning.
Speaker 3: I think for the most part is don't think too hard.
Speaker 3: I think when I live in my head too much
Speaker 3: and try to you know, make shit that I think
Speaker 3: people will like or something like that, just get caught
Speaker 3: up in that.
Speaker 2: You know, that's when my.
Speaker 3: Least creative, I think, when I just let it happen,
Speaker 3: almost like a flow state, if you know.
Speaker 2: What I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So when I just get into when
Speaker 3: i'm not, I feel like I'm not trying hard, when
Speaker 3: it's just like.
Speaker 2: A higher power or some just making everything happen.
Speaker 3: So that's how I've been feeling quite lately, just been
Speaker 3: really fucking like, you know, showing gratitude to that.
Speaker 2: I think that's for the most part.
Speaker 1: Have you figured like I've always tried to figure out
Speaker 1: some kind of equation of like what variables need to
Speaker 1: be in place for me to get into that flow state?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You have you found there are certain things that surround
Speaker 1: whether it's like people you're with or has you been
Speaker 1: eating or drinking or anything like that that kind of
Speaker 1: gets you to that flow state.
Speaker 3: For the most part, it is just what's going on
Speaker 3: in my life. If I got like a lot of
Speaker 3: drama or like a certain shit that's just you know,
Speaker 3: just fucking with me mentally, then it's gonna be hard
Speaker 3: for me to concentrate. But if I'm doing all the
Speaker 3: right shit, you know, taking care of myself and you know,
Speaker 3: for the most part, like just you know, staying out of.
Speaker 2: Trouble, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: But I got everything going good in my life, even
Speaker 3: though I do have like crazy anxiety too when shit
Speaker 3: diet like that. I don't know if other people deal
Speaker 3: with that, But sometime when stuff is just going too
Speaker 3: good for me, I'll be like, man, something's.
Speaker 1: Bad, right, right, right, right, there's almost something the best
Speaker 1: part about things being bad is that they can't get bad.
Speaker 2: They're already there. Yeah, but that's just living in your head.
Speaker 3: Once I just get out of that, you know, stop
Speaker 3: stop thinking too much, I think, you know, I just
Speaker 3: smoke a lot of weed.
Speaker 2: I think smoking weed.
Speaker 3: When I thought it was, you know, helping with my
Speaker 3: anxiety or helping me like to feel better and ship,
Speaker 3: it was just making shit worse, to be honest.
Speaker 1: You know, because I find that when I smoke weed,
Speaker 1: it feels like I'm like stepping on a step ladder
Speaker 1: and like kind of looking at my life from this
Speaker 1: different point of view.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you were just kind of thinking
Speaker 1: thinking too much?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you always look at it like a numbing agent, Yeah,
Speaker 3: numbing pain type. But for the most part, it was
Speaker 3: just causing it more, to be honest, because it makes you,
Speaker 3: don't I mean, it made me not care now I
Speaker 3: care about shit?
Speaker 1: You know. Do you feel like you in your life
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you has every year gotten better?
Speaker 2: Fuck? No, it really got a lot of worse for me.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I was just me, you know, caught up in my
Speaker 3: addictions and everything. But ever since I've been sober and everything.
Speaker 3: Everything's been going great. To be honest, I mean I
Speaker 3: never always, like I say, I always thought it was
Speaker 3: like me using as an escape. But now it's like
Speaker 3: everything's been great, man, I have no complaints right now.
Speaker 1: What do you? Is there anything that you've like been
Speaker 1: doing lately and in sober life that you feel like
Speaker 1: you just didn't have time for before?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean now I feel like I have too much
Speaker 3: time on my hands and I'd be like, what the
Speaker 3: fuck did I used to be doing all this time?
Speaker 2: I was getting sucked up.
Speaker 3: But now now I've just been working back, just being
Speaker 3: in the studio making music again. It's just started to
Speaker 3: become fun for me again. You know, before it just
Speaker 3: felt like work after a while, like I would be
Speaker 3: getting so fucked up and shit and having to be
Speaker 3: in the studio, and I didn't really like that shit,
Speaker 3: Like I already I don't know, I just didn't like it,
Speaker 3: to be honest. It got to a point where, you know,
Speaker 3: I just didn't really want to be in the studio.
Speaker 3: But now it's just like I'm having so much fun
Speaker 3: with it. I'm having fun. It's like cause you know,
Speaker 3: I guess when you become you know, like when you
Speaker 3: start making money from it, and as a kid it
Speaker 3: was a hobby, Like your hobby becomes your job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, oh fuck, yeah.
Speaker 3: You know now it's back again. It's starting to feel
Speaker 3: like a hobby again. So I've just been really just
Speaker 3: making music, man, for the most part.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're even still not having to
Speaker 1: balance the whole thing of like trying to do what
Speaker 1: will be you know in your mind, like financially and
Speaker 1: commercially successful versus like what you and your heart want
Speaker 1: to do, or are you pretty set on like I've
Speaker 1: gotten to the point where I want to be with
Speaker 1: all that other stuff, let me just do it what's
Speaker 1: in my own brain.
Speaker 3: I think when you start thinking that, it fucks with
Speaker 3: you creatively for sure, you know. So you know, it
Speaker 3: gets to the point you just got to do it
Speaker 3: for the love and anything else can come from.
Speaker 2: It, that's a blessing.
Speaker 3: So I always kind of went into making my music
Speaker 3: with that thought process. So it never really was about
Speaker 3: if you listen to my music, you obviously know I'm
Speaker 3: not fucking trying to.
Speaker 2: Make a top forty hit and shit like that.
Speaker 3: But you know, I guess I don't know man, I
Speaker 3: just really just just tapped into, like I don't know,
Speaker 3: just like a creative source. Like I said, it's almost
Speaker 3: like a flow state now, like I'm not trying hard
Speaker 3: to do this shit and I just making crazy shit.
Speaker 3: But for the most part, I just really just being
Speaker 3: creative and shit. It's like when you when you're doing
Speaker 3: it out of the love. I think that's when a
Speaker 3: lot of people gravitate towards it more so, almost like
Speaker 3: a creative energy or some type of shit I can't
Speaker 3: even hard to do.
Speaker 1: When you were like when you think about like the
Speaker 1: times where you just were dreading being in the studio
Speaker 1: the most, Like did you have a time where you
Speaker 1: just thought you would you would like never get it back.
Speaker 2: You know about making music. Yeah, I mean it's the
Speaker 2: love that you had for I mean.
Speaker 3: It's fairly easy for me to be honest, because I've
Speaker 3: been doing it for so long. But I think that
Speaker 3: was just me being wanted to be fucked up. It
Speaker 3: started out as me getting sucked up because I thought
Speaker 3: it sparked my creative juices.
Speaker 2: Then at the point like why am I here? I
Speaker 2: rather just get fucked up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, it's just like you know, without all that,
Speaker 3: it was just a distraction to be honest.
Speaker 1: Mm well okay, I mean looking back on it, is
Speaker 1: there any part of it where you're like, you know
Speaker 1: what that night out actually did kind of like even
Speaker 1: kind of do something for this song, like it gave
Speaker 1: me this idea or this rhythm or something or was
Speaker 1: it all just excuse?
Speaker 2: It was just excuse?
Speaker 3: It was none of it, None of it. No, I
Speaker 3: think now I was just like because even got to
Speaker 3: the point where it was like I was just dreaded,
Speaker 3: like I gotta go to work.
Speaker 2: I looked at it like work and stopped being fun.
Speaker 3: And now I was just like, since I've not been
Speaker 3: looking at it like that and just been having fun
Speaker 3: with it again, is just like it comes to.
Speaker 2: Me so easy now.
Speaker 3: Before it be like wrecking my brain trying to make
Speaker 3: some dope shit or even just the point of doing that,
Speaker 3: like trying to make something dope.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, just.
Speaker 3: Get in there and do it, and everything else to
Speaker 3: take care of itself.
Speaker 1: So what was what was the spark for you to
Speaker 1: be like, you know, after so long for you to
Speaker 1: be like all right, I'm I'm gonna get clean and
Speaker 1: like kind of enter this new phase of life.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was something that I always wanted to do.
Speaker 3: I feel like, I mean, I knew I was fucking up,
Speaker 3: but I guess you know, as men, sometimes it's hard
Speaker 3: to ask for help, you know. And I didn't even
Speaker 3: know how to go about doing that, you know, so
Speaker 3: once I just got fed up, like you know, just
Speaker 3: running relationships and you know, having them waking up every morning,
Speaker 3: like you know, after getting blacked out drunk and people
Speaker 3: telling you shit you did and you're like, fuck, I
Speaker 3: did that, you know, and just so many embarrassments and
Speaker 3: shit like that, and just getting tired of that shit
Speaker 3: and just being fed up and then just you know,
Speaker 3: I guess when you feel like you were at rock bottom,
Speaker 3: like you know, I just felt like I was there
Speaker 3: emotionally where I was just tired of putting myself through
Speaker 3: that kind of turmoil, you know what I'm saying. Where
Speaker 3: I was like, shit, got a change, man.
Speaker 1: You know, what are you looking forward to in the future.
Speaker 3: In the future, Yeah, I think before I used to
Speaker 3: when I used to go on the road and I
Speaker 3: would do shows and shit, it was almost like I
Speaker 3: was more concerned with the after party than the actual show. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And now, you know, after I just did this tour
Speaker 3: with Peggy, being on stage started to become.
Speaker 2: Like therapy for me, Like it made me happy.
Speaker 3: Like I used to be so nervous to go on
Speaker 3: stage and I would get fucked up just because I
Speaker 3: felt like it would make me, you know, feel better
Speaker 3: and not be you know, just everybody get nervous, you know,
Speaker 3: being in front of a lot of people, I guess.
Speaker 3: But and now it's like I was excited to get
Speaker 3: on stage and that became like a former therapy for me.
Speaker 3: So I think for the most part, just being back
Speaker 3: on stage is caused me so much clarity to see
Speaker 3: people that really enjoy the music for what it is,
Speaker 3: you know, So that just made me feel so good
Speaker 3: during his last tour.
Speaker 2: So I'm just more.
Speaker 3: Excited to just get back out and playing music for
Speaker 3: the people that enjoy it.
Speaker 1: We were talking beforehand about like that the adrenaline after
Speaker 1: you do a show. I've been doing all these shows
Speaker 1: this year, doing the podcast live, and after each show,
Speaker 1: I also feel like like I can't just fucking go
Speaker 1: to sleep, you know, like even if I even I'll
Speaker 1: even just like take a long walk or something like.
Speaker 1: And you know, now that you you said you're not
Speaker 1: going out as much, Like what do you what do
Speaker 1: you do with that? And how what have you been
Speaker 1: doing with that energy?
Speaker 3: Yeah after the show, cause yeah, after after a show,
Speaker 3: I do have like a crazy like adrenaline rush and
Speaker 3: I'm like pumped up. And it was really hard the
Speaker 3: first couple of shows we did where I didn't know,
Speaker 3: you know, like damn, because I used to drink or
Speaker 3: you know, smoke and do other shit, you know. But
Speaker 3: now it's like I start to find like solace and
Speaker 3: like just going back to the hotel room by myself
Speaker 3: and yeah, playing and my steam deck or reading a
Speaker 3: book or just like you know, watching random shit on YouTube.
Speaker 3: You know, it just started. I just started to be
Speaker 3: comfortable in that element, you know. And then I brought
Speaker 3: my equipment with me, so I would like set up
Speaker 3: in hotel rooms and just work on music. So it'd
Speaker 3: be like, you know, I wake up in the morning,
Speaker 3: you know, get my coffee, you know everything.
Speaker 2: And just work on some music.
Speaker 3: Then before I know what, I gotta go to sound check,
Speaker 3: Go to sound check, come back, do some do a
Speaker 3: little more shit. So I just got caught up and
Speaker 3: it was like twenty four hour work where I didn't
Speaker 3: I wasn't even thinking about nothing else, you know.
Speaker 1: Well, it was also like the social elements of going out,
Speaker 1: you know, like it does it ever? Do you do
Speaker 1: you ever get like lonely afterwards, like after you're just.
Speaker 2: Sitting in there playing the Yeah, being on the road
Speaker 2: is lonely. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 3: But I think for the most part, man, I just
Speaker 3: I don't know, I had a lot of time to
Speaker 3: be with myself, you know, when I'm at the crib
Speaker 3: with my girl, with my dogs. You know, it's a
Speaker 3: lot of stuff going on, you know, dealing with my family,
Speaker 3: my friends, you know, and for the most I haven't
Speaker 3: been on the road for a while, so being back
Speaker 3: it was like I was just happy being back at work, Like, oh,
Speaker 3: it almost kind of sparked something like I remember why
Speaker 3: I love doing this, you know.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, it almost feel like when you're when when
Speaker 1: you're just kind of going back home and like going
Speaker 1: back into your routine of what you of what you
Speaker 1: would be doing when you weren't on the road, like
Speaker 1: watching YouTube videos or reading or something like that, it
Speaker 1: feels like, you know, the days are less, you're you're
Speaker 1: less engulfed in fucking chaos. Yeah, you know, it's like
Speaker 1: becomes a part of your routine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I would say that being on the road,
Speaker 3: it's hard to like live.
Speaker 2: Healthy in some sense.
Speaker 3: Oh fuck yeah, you know, like you gotta eat bullshit
Speaker 3: where you can eat it.
Speaker 2: So I have enjoyed being back at home to be
Speaker 2: able to be able to eat.
Speaker 3: The way I want to eat, and live the way
Speaker 3: I want to live, and sleep in my own bed
Speaker 3: for the most part.
Speaker 1: You know, what's the worst, like things that you're eating
Speaker 1: on the on the red.
Speaker 3: I mean fast food, you know, sometimes you got to
Speaker 3: you know, certain cities you go in they shut down.
Speaker 1: Really you have a favorite one of those.
Speaker 2: I've just eat a lot of chicken. You know, I'm black.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 1: We were just set seven eleven and I had what
Speaker 1: was it, the Lone Star. I had a lone Star slider.
Speaker 2: Oh god, it was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that bad, It wasn't. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: might have to I might have to fucking shove all
Speaker 1: these tables away to do diarrhea halfway through this.
Speaker 3: But yeah, eating out to seven eleven is gnarly. That's
Speaker 3: definitely some gnarly that takes me back to like being
Speaker 3: a teenager or some ship man.
Speaker 2: Nah, I can't do that no more.
Speaker 1: Hey man, you want to take a phone call at all,
Speaker 1: let's do. Let's see what we got on the phones. Hello, Stephanie, Stephene?
Speaker 1: Is it Stephanie or Stein?
Speaker 5: You can call me whatever you want, but it's Stephanie.
Speaker 1: Okay, then I'll then I'll call you Steffene. All right,
Speaker 1: what's going on, Stephen?
Speaker 5: I'm busy and I work my choose jobs, so that's
Speaker 5: pretty fun.
Speaker 1: Well, you said here that your boyfriend is choosing roadblocks
Speaker 1: over your guys' relationship.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm trying to understand why he does that. It's
Speaker 5: to me, it's like a child's game, and I don't
Speaker 5: know why he's choosing a child game over our relationship.
Speaker 5: So I've been dating him for a year and it's
Speaker 5: been pretty.
Speaker 2: Good to tell.
Speaker 5: He started his little roblocks eviction and I managed to
Speaker 5: make an account because I was like, Okay, we could
Speaker 5: spend more time with each other if I get this game.
Speaker 5: And he's kind of like choosing to play that game
Speaker 5: all day till like four am rather than hang out
Speaker 5: with me. And it's always this one game which I
Speaker 5: came to realize it's like this donation game. So do
Speaker 5: you know how roadblocks work? I?
Speaker 1: Do you know how roadblocks?
Speaker 2: No? I'm grown?
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, he gives like these roebucks with like actual money,
Speaker 5: and I wanted to support his little gaming edition, so
Speaker 5: I bought him a couple of gift cards, and I
Speaker 5: guess I realized that donation game. He donates all the
Speaker 5: gift cards I give to him to random people, and
Speaker 5: that's like the only game he plays on there.
Speaker 6: And it's really.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to figure out what he enjoys doing that
Speaker 5: rather than like hanging out with me and.
Speaker 7: Using my money.
Speaker 2: Nineteen Okay, I don't know. It's like an EDP situation
Speaker 2: going on here.
Speaker 1: What's ZDP stand for?
Speaker 2: This pump bro?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: Because I joined him one time and they's just like
Speaker 5: a bunch of kids running to him or not kids.
Speaker 5: I don't know how all they are, but like they
Speaker 5: tell me for money.
Speaker 1: I guess what I want to say is if is
Speaker 1: do you want him to stop playing the game? And
Speaker 1: you're I get I guess you're trying to be a
Speaker 1: supportive girlfriend, But if you want him to stop playing
Speaker 1: the game, why are you buying him gift cards.
Speaker 4: For the game, well, because I just I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm I really provided for him. I don't know whatever
Speaker 5: he wants. I comes to give it to him because
Speaker 5: you know, I like to make him happy. But it's
Speaker 5: kind of like a slap to the face. I give
Speaker 5: him like maybe a forty dollars gift carded then he
Speaker 5: just like ignores me, and I feel like I'm kind
Speaker 5: of too old to be going through this cycle over
Speaker 5: and over again.
Speaker 1: What do you do? What do you do outside of
Speaker 1: your relationship? Do you have a dreams and aspirations outside
Speaker 1: of this rowbox man?
Speaker 5: So, I don't know. I just work with my two jobs,
Speaker 5: come home, hang out with my boyfriend. That's that's all
Speaker 5: I do when I release Dream. Yeah, he works worked
Speaker 5: it two days a week and he's in score and
Speaker 5: now he's in college right now.
Speaker 2: That's pretty weird.
Speaker 3: He just makes it rain on kids and roadblocks with
Speaker 3: my money.
Speaker 5: I guess, I what did you I I've been trying
Speaker 5: to get it. So we're actually a long distance We
Speaker 5: we met off of a game called the Art Chat,
Speaker 5: and I think someone talks about it and on your channel.
Speaker 1: Before you I do know what vr chat is who
Speaker 1: I want to know what what was his avatar and vr.
Speaker 2: Chat he wasn't.
Speaker 5: He wasn't like a meme avatar. We're both in meme avatars,
Speaker 5: so we're like duping around and I started talking to him,
Speaker 5: and to be honest, it's been pretty healthy besides this
Speaker 5: roadblock phase because before him, I was dating someone for
Speaker 5: seven years and you know, he didn't really cheat me
Speaker 5: well with them. I started eating this man right here.
Speaker 5: So it's just it's just I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, you you met your boyfriend in a digital realm,
Speaker 1: knowing that he spends a lot of time and digital realms,
Speaker 1: and he continues to spend lots of time and digital realms. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you and you, but you made an account to
Speaker 1: try to play it with.
Speaker 2: Him, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I really don't understand the games because it's like too
Speaker 5: kiddish for me, and I just I can't really enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I kind of thought like that he would like, yeah, somebody,
Speaker 1: it would be a red flag for you. For somebody,
Speaker 1: it's just.
Speaker 3: A little creepy, give me creepy vibes, like kids or something.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think he would ever cheat, but it's
Speaker 5: just like it's I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the fact that that would be
Speaker 1: cheating is the problem.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know he used to socialize, but I would
Speaker 5: rather have like socialize on I guess the org because
Speaker 5: it's more aim for adults, and I would kind of
Speaker 5: understand it in that way.
Speaker 1: Does he have like a bunch Does he have like
Speaker 1: a bunch of like friends on discord who are like kids?
Speaker 2: And shit?
Speaker 5: No, there, I would consider eighteen still kind of like
Speaker 5: a kid honestly, So they're kind of eighteen twenty so
Speaker 5: his age range, but it's just they are really childish.
Speaker 5: So I just mentally not mature. I'm twenty two.
Speaker 2: Oh m hmm. It's a little creepy man, A little
Speaker 2: creepy me, right, No, not you him.
Speaker 3: I just wouldn't want to be spending my time all
Speaker 3: day when I got me a hot old woman sitting
Speaker 3: around playing Rodblox all day.
Speaker 2: That's just a little creepy things.
Speaker 5: I work like thirteen hour shifts or one of my jobs,
Speaker 5: and I would like to kind of like what is
Speaker 5: the word he compressed and hang out with him, maybe
Speaker 5: watch something, But he choose to go in the roadblocks
Speaker 5: and play games all night. So I feel kind of
Speaker 5: ignored and I'm kind of too drained to fight it anymore.
Speaker 1: Did you, like before calling us, did you have a
Speaker 1: sit down with him where you told him that he's
Speaker 1: spending too much time with roadblocks children.
Speaker 5: Well, if I'm being honest, I kind of talked to
Speaker 5: him like, hey, I was pretty depressed today and I
Speaker 5: kind of mentioned it to you. I wish you could
Speaker 5: like watch something and hung out, and he kind of
Speaker 5: like give me half ass replies and continue playing this
Speaker 5: little roadblocks. So I try to mention it.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: I think sometimes you gotta just like like you get
Speaker 1: to give a direct response of like, hey, you are
Speaker 1: spending too much time.
Speaker 5: I feel like, oh no, I've had multiple times. That's
Speaker 5: the thing. So it's just like you teach yourself too much.
Speaker 5: It's just I I don't even want to say it anymore.
Speaker 5: That's why I'm kind of like joining myself dollars from
Speaker 5: both of my jobs.
Speaker 3: So I mean it sounds like to me, if he
Speaker 3: met you on VR chat, he might got a roadbox relationship.
Speaker 3: You might got him with a rodbox bitch or something
Speaker 3: going on. I wouldn't doubt that.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I know he doesn't. It's just the
Speaker 5: fact he enjoys hanging out with I don't know children.
Speaker 5: I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's kind of worse than having a Rodbox girlfriend.
Speaker 2: I think he got a roadblock.
Speaker 5: I think they're equal, if I'm being honest.
Speaker 1: That'd be crazy if he had a robox girlfriend and
Speaker 1: he was donating to her using gift card money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know this guy. I don't
Speaker 1: want to put anything on him like that.
Speaker 2: But it's pamping.
Speaker 4: Out here.
Speaker 1: Well let me okay, Actually, here's uh. You guys are
Speaker 1: long distance, right, so you can't even you You almost
Speaker 1: like are spending time in these digital realms because that's
Speaker 1: the only way you can spend time. Where where? How
Speaker 1: far is this.
Speaker 5: He's I feel like people who know him watched this.
Speaker 5: But that's fine. He's in Canada and I'm in Texas.
Speaker 5: But my parents offered because they really like my boyfriend.
Speaker 5: They offer to buy a plane ticket for one of
Speaker 5: us to see each other this upcoming summer. So we
Speaker 5: have plans to meet and stuff. But the way he's
Speaker 5: asking just makes me very unsure about it being successful.
Speaker 5: Because he's choosing a litteral child game rather than focusing
Speaker 5: on a relationship.
Speaker 2: This is crazy. I think you probably need to find
Speaker 2: a new boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 5: I'm trying my best to, like really giving as much
Speaker 5: chances as I can, because I do love him to
Speaker 5: death and I'm the type of person who always puts
Speaker 5: them before I do, like myself.
Speaker 1: Your type of person. You put the person you're with
Speaker 1: before yourself.
Speaker 8: Yeah, of course, before before.
Speaker 1: We go, I want to ask you, what's your name again?
Speaker 1: My name is Seane Stephanie Stephanie. If you were to
Speaker 1: put yourself, if you were to put yourself first, what
Speaker 1: would that look like for you?
Speaker 5: Well, I would honestly keep doing the same things I'm doing,
Speaker 5: working more hours, so I go af forward to move
Speaker 5: out and provide for myself and just not date for
Speaker 5: a little bit.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm lost.
Speaker 5: I'm kind of lost in life as well.
Speaker 1: So mhmm mmmm. Well, if you ever want to uh
Speaker 1: use use me as a VR avatar, you can have
Speaker 1: the rights to my Gecko intellectual property and use that
Speaker 1: to find as many romantic partners as that would bring on.
Speaker 5: Oh no, I would, I would pimp with that avatar.
Speaker 1: Danny do you have any final thoughts for Stephanie at all?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to find you a real person.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard to do in the long dis Yeah.
Speaker 5: I enjoy long distance because I feel much safer because
Speaker 5: my seven year relationship he was very I guess abusive
Speaker 5: and stuff. So you know, you can't really hit me
Speaker 5: through the internet.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that. I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: hear that, Stephanie. Although this s guy Joshin, he doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like that physically imposing of a man.
Speaker 3: I mean, nineteen years old on roadblocks, eighteen hours a day.
Speaker 3: Hell no, Stephane.
Speaker 1: I hoped this was I hope this was in some way,
Speaker 1: shape or form. I don't know that.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's nice to talk to someone about it.
Speaker 1: Dude, is there anything else you want to say to
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go? O, don't
Speaker 1: let your boyfriend play Roadblocks.
Speaker 5: That's all I got to say.
Speaker 1: I have a good night, Stephanie.
Speaker 9: You have a niclone.
Speaker 2: That's weird. I thought Roadblocks was like but like people
Speaker 2: like I don't know, like twelve of or some shit.
Speaker 1: I think it is. I think this guy is probably
Speaker 1: like when he said, we don't. I don't know what
Speaker 1: she meant by a donation game or if it's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, you can like donate to twitch streamers or
Speaker 1: something like that, but I don't. I don't know me
Speaker 1: even even the guys who are like streaming that are
Speaker 1: like fifteen or something like that.
Speaker 2: Like it's kind of creepy. Yeah, it's kind of Creepy'll
Speaker 2: get a little pdfile vibes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh do you what? What do you
Speaker 1: play on the Steam Deck?
Speaker 3: Well, I've been playing The Witcher because I never finished it.
Speaker 3: I was playing a lot of The Witcher, but for
Speaker 3: the most part, I'm you know, I play a lot
Speaker 3: of j RPGs.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so I'm what what what are you plan now?
Speaker 1: There's a two percent chance?
Speaker 3: So well, I went back and I was playing for
Speaker 3: Soono four, were for Signer four. I'm getting into Starfield.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start playing that tonight.
Speaker 1: Do you ever play the Switch?
Speaker 2: The Nintendo Switch? Yeah? Yeah, I lost a few of them.
Speaker 1: You lost you lost a few.
Speaker 2: Lost a few switches?
Speaker 1: Where did you? I mean, I guess if you knew
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have, it wouldn't be lost.
Speaker 3: But leaving him in a hotel room one time I left
Speaker 3: a switch in the hotel room. Next thing I know,
Speaker 3: I got a new one and he bought like four
Speaker 3: new games. I'm like, what the fuck? I ain't buy
Speaker 3: no Mario Party. What the going?
Speaker 2: They were in your account and they bought the games, Like,
Speaker 2: I ain't buy Mario Party. Who got this?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But no, I don't have a switch.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 3: I've been like every since I got the Steam, Steam
Speaker 3: Decks amazing, I got the emulator on it, got a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of game Cube games.
Speaker 2: I've been back playing game Cube game Metroy Prime. Okay,
Speaker 2: That's what I've been getting busy with.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat I'm a huge I used to play,
Speaker 1: like in tournaments for a Super Smash Brothers.
Speaker 3: I suck at Smash. I mean I think I was
Speaker 3: better on it. What was it sixty four?
Speaker 1: Sixty four?
Speaker 2: No? No, I think it was Gang Year. I think
Speaker 2: game Cube was my favorite one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you ever play the new one?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It suck.
Speaker 1: I suck the the I'm like kind of a purist
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: Like the new one.
Speaker 1: It controls a little bit differently than the GameCube one.
Speaker 1: So I'll only play the GameCube one it's just people
Speaker 1: are so good at it, man. Yeah, it's one of
Speaker 1: those games.
Speaker 3: It's just like, Man, you can have fun playing it,
Speaker 3: but then when you play someone that's just fucking amazing thatdy.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't want to play this shit no more.
Speaker 2: Why am I putting myself through this?
Speaker 1: It's not fun.
Speaker 2: No, it's not fun at all.
Speaker 3: Then I was trying to be cool and play with
Speaker 3: love Mac and shit because he was a new character
Speaker 3: at the time.
Speaker 2: And fuck it fucking sucks little Max.
Speaker 1: So you ever sideb off the stage?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Always falling off the fucking stage with may do that
Speaker 3: fucking dash punch and just fall right off the fucking world.
Speaker 2: That was pretty good with kirbyat oh back in the day.
Speaker 2: That was my guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, use that down b move you already know. So
Speaker 1: let's suck to let's talk to MJ. Hello, Oh hello, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 4: Oh my god? Is this Lyle? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It's Lyle and Danny. What's up?
Speaker 2: Man? What's it up?
Speaker 10: Bro?
Speaker 11: I'm I'm I'm actually shaking. I'm Oh my god, Lyle,
Speaker 11: you have no idea, like, how big of a fan
Speaker 11: I am. I worked all summer and the only thing
Speaker 11: that got me through the first five hours of like
Speaker 11: my ten hour shifts.
Speaker 4: Were you bro? For real?
Speaker 2: Thanks? Man?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Can you say something nice about Danny too?
Speaker 4: You don't have to Danny, Danny, you look great in
Speaker 4: the suit. I'm being serious.
Speaker 11: I actually was just checking out your music right now.
Speaker 11: I actually might start listening to you more for real, Like,
Speaker 11: yes to figure.
Speaker 2: Music that warms my heart?
Speaker 1: What's up about?
Speaker 4: Serious? Thank you?
Speaker 1: How's how's it going?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: What's what's going on with you? It says that you're
Speaker 1: nineteen from Chicago, You're in college, and you're like finding
Speaker 1: it hard to talk to your peers. It says, is.
Speaker 11: That, yeah, yeah, So I've been in school right now
Speaker 11: for about three weeks and I've only been able to
Speaker 11: talk to one person in my class, and she's a
Speaker 11: pretty cool dude. And the only way I've learned how
Speaker 11: to talk to him is I offered him like a
Speaker 11: piece of gum, Like every single class period that I
Speaker 11: had with him, I was like, do you want a
Speaker 11: piece of gum or anything?
Speaker 4: And he's really cool.
Speaker 11: I mean, he reminds me a lot of my older brother,
Speaker 11: so it just kind of feels like I'm talking to him.
Speaker 11: But other than that, I am just really like I'm
Speaker 11: not diagnosed at all with like social anxiety, but it's
Speaker 11: I find it really hard to like talk to people,
Speaker 11: and like even if I'm like in a store or whatever,
Speaker 11: I have to have like my brother, like my sibling
Speaker 11: hyped me up to talk to like an employee, to
Speaker 11: ask like do you know where this is?
Speaker 4: So it's just it's.
Speaker 11: Kind of hard to like get myself out there and
Speaker 11: like just talk to people.
Speaker 3: I dealt with that a lot, but I had fucked
Speaker 3: up teeth, so I just do want people to see
Speaker 3: my teeth. So I didn't used to talk a lot
Speaker 3: when I was younger because they always teased me and shit.
Speaker 3: But for the most part, I realized that it's almost
Speaker 3: just like putting yourself in a situation and you're just
Speaker 3: being cool enough and people would just like want to
Speaker 3: kick it with you, like when you seem interesting, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying type shit where you know, not
Speaker 3: trying too hard, not being a try hard and not
Speaker 3: trying to go out because then that comes off kind
Speaker 3: of creepy. But I feel like, just you know, you
Speaker 3: got to just go with the flow and not live
Speaker 3: in your head, and eventually people would just pop up.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's almost that you have to like
Speaker 1: get comfortable with yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: First, because if you're if you think that you're word
Speaker 1: and suck, then everyone else is gonna kind of kind
Speaker 1: of catch on to that.
Speaker 2: So you have to kind of like.
Speaker 1: Build that internal confidence, and weirdly it always kind of
Speaker 1: shows in a way. I mean, how do you how
Speaker 1: do you feel about yourself?
Speaker 4: M J.
Speaker 11: I'm man, I'm not that confident.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 11: I kind of struggle with a lot of body positivity
Speaker 11: and just my looks and everything. I try to take
Speaker 11: care of myself as much as possible, but it's hard,
Speaker 11: you know. And I just I got a new haircut,
Speaker 11: like something that I never did. I got like those
Speaker 11: like modern mullets now.
Speaker 1: But how tall are you?
Speaker 11: I'm just I'm five eight five eight, so I'm.
Speaker 4: Like pretty sure. Yeah, how tall are you?
Speaker 1: Five six?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 11: Oh you're like my brother? Yeah, My little brother's taller
Speaker 11: than me. And I kind of look to him more
Speaker 11: as like kind of like trying to be like him
Speaker 11: because he's in high school and everything, and he just
Speaker 11: does not care about what other people think or say
Speaker 11: he's the Hills person.
Speaker 4: Ever, you don't really talk. He has like a.
Speaker 11: Group of friends that he usually hangs out with, like
Speaker 11: online and in school, and he's just like, man, I
Speaker 11: don't think like you're too much or like he always
Speaker 11: will tell me do your cringy, dude, you're embarrassing and everything.
Speaker 11: So kind of it either messes with me or I'm like, man,
Speaker 11: I'm doing too much. I gotta like calm down.
Speaker 1: So so, Danny, you said that you've kind of felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, earlier on you had a little bit of
Speaker 1: what he's talking about. But I mean now you kind
Speaker 1: of seem like you have a bit of a you know,
Speaker 1: not giving a fuck what people think about me. What
Speaker 1: do you think changed for you in that cause?
Speaker 3: I mean like it's all about what you're kind of into.
Speaker 3: And I think most of my friends when I when
Speaker 3: I was in school and stuff, it all came from music.
Speaker 3: So it's like I was super into like rapping all
Speaker 3: that stuff, and you know, I used to rap and stuff,
Speaker 3: so I met my friends do doing it. So I
Speaker 3: think it's pretty much about like what you're into, and
Speaker 3: that's where your friend group will come from and that type.
Speaker 2: So what are you into right now?
Speaker 11: I'm actually majoring within graphic design and like art and stuff,
Speaker 11: so I try to like talk to people about like,
Speaker 11: you know, all like this looks cool, or like I
Speaker 11: like a lot of music, so I'll be like, who's
Speaker 11: your favorite artists and everything. Like I don't really listen
Speaker 11: to like pop music because it's just kind of like
Speaker 11: I don't mean to sound like that pretentious like pops
Speaker 11: like or whatever, but it's not for me.
Speaker 1: I think. I think there's there is this thing of
Speaker 1: like creating your own universe that surrounds what you're interested in,
Speaker 1: and then if you take the initiative to do that,
Speaker 1: other people catch on and that's a good way to
Speaker 1: make friends. Yeah, Like when we were just talking about
Speaker 1: you know, Smash Bros. When I was in college, I
Speaker 1: would like put on tournaments and events and stuff, and
Speaker 1: it's like when you when you create your own thing
Speaker 1: around your own interests and invite other people to join,
Speaker 1: its great way to make friends. So if you're in
Speaker 1: graphic design and you wanted to start, like I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: you think about any clubs, starting a little graphic design club,
Speaker 1: a little uh what's the thing where like you show
Speaker 1: up the a crit start a little crit club. You know,
Speaker 1: everyone brings their work and you guys kind of go
Speaker 1: around better something like that, especially if you just started
Speaker 1: college and there's all these like other you know. I
Speaker 1: always always found that starting a club or something like
Speaker 1: that is a great way to get people around you,
Speaker 1: you know, and also you you feel more confident when
Speaker 1: it's your space.
Speaker 3: I also thinks he seems pretty cool to me, like
Speaker 3: he called and talking to us, So I really just
Speaker 3: think it's just him living in his head. That's what
Speaker 3: we go back and think about. Like, you know, you're
Speaker 3: just thinking too hard, man, Just you know, just go
Speaker 3: with the flow.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: That's really you know, you putting yourself in the situation
Speaker 3: of being a part of like graphic design. You're around
Speaker 3: a lot of other people that are into the same
Speaker 3: things that you are. So eventually, you know, time did
Speaker 3: nature take his course. You know, if you think too
Speaker 3: hard about it.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that, you know, Yeah, in school started.
Speaker 11: Right, especially, yeah, especially like my little brother and everything,
Speaker 11: because like we're like not too far. He's like a
Speaker 11: little like five years younger than me, so like he's
Speaker 11: like fifteen, and he actually did try to call in
Speaker 11: once and he got shut down because he's fifteen, and
Speaker 11: I was like, oh, dang, I didn't know, like you
Speaker 11: had to be fifteen to call off.
Speaker 4: So he was upset about that. But it's all good.
Speaker 1: It was nice to take a break from hanging out
Speaker 1: with the previous caller's boyfriend too call.
Speaker 2: Into the show.
Speaker 11: Yeah, a man, I don't know what was going on
Speaker 11: with that. I heard like a little bit like a
Speaker 11: snippet of like roadblocks and stuff like that, and I
Speaker 11: can relate to my older brother he plays the roadblock.
Speaker 2: But listen, listen, you.
Speaker 1: You and that guy, if any if you can leave
Speaker 1: this with anything, You and that guy are both nineteen,
Speaker 1: and you sound like you're doing a lot better socially
Speaker 1: than he is. So you have that gun for you.
Speaker 4: Okay, man, I appreciate that, true.
Speaker 1: Of course, Danige. Anything do you want to say to
Speaker 1: MJ before we go?
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's just I think a lot of times,
Speaker 3: you know, you just got to work on yourself, like
Speaker 3: confidence is everything, Like you know, you got the new
Speaker 3: cool haircuts, you know, maybe you know, get some new
Speaker 3: clothes and you know, just work on yourself, maybe going
Speaker 3: to the gym, working out once you feel better about
Speaker 3: yourself than everybody had noticed that, then everything could just
Speaker 3: happen for you.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: But if you keep living in your head and feeling
Speaker 3: like you're cringey, then of course it's going to project
Speaker 3: the other people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really appreciate that.
Speaker 11: I actually did start going to the gym this last
Speaker 11: week because I just look up to my little brother
Speaker 11: so much, because like he's just such a like a calm,
Speaker 11: like cool dude. And he started going to the gym
Speaker 11: with his friend. So I was like, all right, let
Speaker 11: me hop on. My dad was like, all right, if
Speaker 11: you guys want to go, I'll pay for you guys
Speaker 11: to tag on with him.
Speaker 4: And we didn't.
Speaker 11: And now I'm going to the gym, and I think,
Speaker 11: like this week I've lost like maybe like five six pounds.
Speaker 2: You can, that's great, that's great.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so I'm gonna try to keep on that. I'm
Speaker 11: cooking some food right now to lapia, you know, so
Speaker 11: it's gonna be good tonight.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: Enjoy your lapia. I don't know what that.
Speaker 2: Is, but.
Speaker 1: Right it's like it's yeah, well, enjoy your tilapia. And
Speaker 1: thanks for calling.
Speaker 11: Man, good luck, thank you, gig oh and I missed
Speaker 11: your Chicago show. I found out that you existed, Like, I'll.
Speaker 1: Be back after twenty twenty four. I'm coming back to Chicago.
Speaker 1: I might try to come back.
Speaker 4: I heard, I heard, I heard I'm gonna go. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go with twenty twenty four. I swear, I swear.
Speaker 1: You're coming to Chicago soon too, not that I know about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go see Dan, anybody who comes to Chicago too. All right,
Speaker 1: take care of him.
Speaker 4: Jay, all right, thank you, sir.
Speaker 10: So.
Speaker 1: I asked you earlier. I was like, do you feel
Speaker 1: like this era of your life is like the best
Speaker 1: it's been? And you said fuck no. But to phrase
Speaker 1: it differently, do you try it to what we were
Speaker 1: just talking about. Do you feel like over the years,
Speaker 1: how's your personal confidence in yourself been? Is that at
Speaker 1: the highest it's been?
Speaker 3: Or I wouldn't say is that the highest because I've
Speaker 3: always I wouldn't. I always had, like, you know, pretty
Speaker 3: confident in myself in some sense. But I think I'm
Speaker 3: just not causing any problems for myself. I think that's
Speaker 3: the biggest deal. But like I say, man, I'm so
Speaker 3: get caught up in my own head as well, and everything.
Speaker 2: Stuff's just been going.
Speaker 3: So good that I get that anxiety of like, ah,
Speaker 3: something just gonna happen to him or whatever, you know,
Speaker 3: But I would say, man, yeah, I was causing all
Speaker 3: the problems for myself thinking I was making things better.
Speaker 3: Not at this point in my life, I'm realizing, you know,
Speaker 3: what the problems were, and the problems wasn't necessarily.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just me.
Speaker 3: And once you understand, like having that unresolved trauma and
Speaker 3: stuff and you letting go of that. I think that
Speaker 3: was the biggest takeaway from me going to rehab it,
Speaker 3: just realizing where everything is stemmed from. And once you
Speaker 3: were able to find the root of the problem, you're
Speaker 3: able to take.
Speaker 2: Care of it.
Speaker 1: You know, do you what do you feel like the
Speaker 1: root of the problem was.
Speaker 3: A lot of guilt, probably a lot of guilt and
Speaker 3: then not not forgiving a lot of people like I
Speaker 3: can be like bingefol in some sense, you know, And
Speaker 3: once you're just able to be like, you know, look
Speaker 3: at it through the other person's eyes. You know, I
Speaker 3: was able to overcome that. I feel like, you know
Speaker 3: a lot of times, man like even just with you know,
Speaker 3: people with their parents or family members and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and once you were able to just you know, feel
Speaker 3: apologetic on their end, then you can, you know, get
Speaker 3: through it a lot better.
Speaker 1: You know, were you holding on to grudges that were
Speaker 1: like several years definitely?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really what was the big deal you did
Speaker 2: you like.
Speaker 1: Did you forgive in the sense of like let me
Speaker 1: call this person up or just an internal.
Speaker 3: Internally I'll stee I still struggle with that with with
Speaker 3: I don't know, we just calling people, like having that drama,
Speaker 3: you know, like, I don't know, I still I still
Speaker 3: struggle with that, but I've gotten a lot better with it.
Speaker 3: I've gotten a lot better with it, especially with expressing
Speaker 3: myself because sometimes you know, stuff cannot go your way
Speaker 3: and you can feel a certain way about certain things,
Speaker 3: and instead of addressing the issue, you just hold it in.
Speaker 3: And I think that was a that was a big
Speaker 3: That was a big deal with me. That caused a
Speaker 3: lot of problems with me. Now I just you know,
Speaker 3: be open about how I feel about stuff. And you
Speaker 3: realize sometimes man like like people don't give a fuck man,
Speaker 3: and you realize, like you be like man, you know,
Speaker 3: you might think something happened and you know, you you
Speaker 3: try to think from their point of view, and then
Speaker 3: once you really just sit down and talk to them,
Speaker 3: you're like, they didn't really care that much. You know,
Speaker 3: it wasn't even that big of a deal that I
Speaker 3: was making it out to be.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah. Do you do you like when you
Speaker 2: when you.
Speaker 1: Think of there's like multi year grudges you're talking about it,
Speaker 1: do you feel like, oh, I'm holding onto this thing
Speaker 1: for several years and this person just probably doesn't even
Speaker 1: hasn't thought about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really what it is when you really get
Speaker 3: down and you talk to me like, man, I didn't
Speaker 3: even know you were feeling like that about that.
Speaker 2: I'm right, I'm saying you like, ah, fuck, and you
Speaker 2: feel stupid. And that was a big deal with me.
Speaker 1: It's such a weird thing how like our brains can
Speaker 1: take certain things and just mess them out of proportion
Speaker 1: in terms of what's reality, you know. And we also
Speaker 1: like you can assume how other people feel all the time,
Speaker 1: and you can assume another person's mad at you or
Speaker 1: upset about this or this and that when they just
Speaker 1: don't get you just projecting stuff onto them.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And another thing with me was when I know I
Speaker 3: was wrong in a situation. Yeah, and from me being wrong,
Speaker 3: it'll make me hate the other person eventually, Like, no,
Speaker 3: you know, it's easier to hate someone when you know
Speaker 3: you was wrong kind of thing and just manning up
Speaker 3: and just to step the responsibility for it, you know,
Speaker 3: self accountability. That was really the biggest thing for me,
Speaker 3: was just you know, being being accountable for all the
Speaker 3: fucked up ship that I did, you know, And I
Speaker 3: was able to get over a lot of things once
Speaker 3: I realized I was the fucking bad guy.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm did you like so, I know you said
Speaker 1: you it was kind of a lot of internal forgiveness
Speaker 1: towards the people who you felt like wrong to you.
Speaker 1: Did you make any calls or do any reach outs
Speaker 1: of people you felt like, oh you kind of fucked
Speaker 1: up there or anything like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, definitely that's cathartic because it feels like a
Speaker 3: weight off your shoulders. Yeah, you know, you holding all
Speaker 3: this you know, internal trauma and stuff like that, overs
Speaker 3: fucked up shit that you did, you know. So for me, yeah,
Speaker 3: it definitely lifted, like a weight was lifted off my shoulders.
Speaker 2: Do you so you're working on new music now? Right? Always?
Speaker 2: Now it's my it's my that's my sweet spot.
Speaker 1: Are you taking Are you taking a lot of this
Speaker 1: a lot this stuff? And correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: But it feels like a lot of the stuff that
Speaker 1: you're talking about is like fresh for you since rehab
Speaker 1: and and I know you even dropped an album since
Speaker 1: do you feel like a lot of these things that
Speaker 1: you're thinking about in these themes and whatnot, or you're
Speaker 1: gonna try to kind of express that I got.
Speaker 3: An album coming out soon. But I think for the
Speaker 3: most part, with a lot of my music, it was
Speaker 3: almost like trauma dumping, you know, where I would talk
Speaker 3: about shitting my music that I was afraid to talk
Speaker 3: to other people about, you know, And now it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, it's as much as it was an artistic expression,
Speaker 3: it almost.
Speaker 2: Was like a cry for help too.
Speaker 3: And you know, listening to that music is great and
Speaker 3: you know, but I put a lot of comedy in
Speaker 3: my music. So that was the way I masted, almost
Speaker 3: like a dramedy type of situation. But now it's almost
Speaker 3: like I will and it did, because I do get
Speaker 3: a lot of messages from people be like, you know.
Speaker 2: Some of my most fucked up songs, they be like man,
Speaker 2: that helped me get through my shit.
Speaker 3: You know, it's almost like a weird thing. But now
Speaker 3: it's like, I just kind of want to make people
Speaker 3: happy with my music. I don't want them to feel
Speaker 3: sad or feel some feel worried about me type of shit,
Speaker 3: you know. So it's like because I realized, you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of the music that I like growing up
Speaker 3: as a kid was the type of songs that just
Speaker 3: made me no matter what I was going through in
Speaker 3: my life, I can listen to this song and just
Speaker 3: takes me to a happy place. I'm not saying I'm
Speaker 3: about to be making some old corny ass fucking you
Speaker 3: know what, I'm saying that popping type shit, but just still,
Speaker 3: I want to make people feel good, give them that confidence.
Speaker 3: So just make them just forget all their problems for
Speaker 3: that three minutes and just dance.
Speaker 1: You know, do you ever have a song that you
Speaker 1: just like had you had no intention of it being
Speaker 1: a song like that that would like help people in
Speaker 1: that way, and it's just something you just were, I
Speaker 1: don't know, wanted it to be hype or something like that,
Speaker 1: and then it was interpreted in ways so you didn't
Speaker 1: think it would be intern.
Speaker 3: Just like my album Atrocity Exhibition, that was pretty much
Speaker 3: I was. I mean, I was really just in a
Speaker 3: dark place. But I find that a lot of people
Speaker 3: you know that loved that album hit me up and
Speaker 3: tild was like, man, it helped them realize they were
Speaker 3: going through a and you know, got them out of
Speaker 3: their funk.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: So maybe I don't know. I guess sometimes you know,
Speaker 3: people have this whole perception of what artists. You know,
Speaker 3: we're normal people too, we go through shit too, So
Speaker 3: I guess people hear like, oh, he have an these
Speaker 3: same problems in these troubles, you know. So it's just
Speaker 3: so I'm at such a great space to see people,
Speaker 3: you know, let them know that I made it out,
Speaker 3: so instead of doing all this trauma dump and I'm more.
Speaker 2: So I want to help, you know.
Speaker 3: That's always tell anybody if you going through something, man,
Speaker 3: you want to reach out to me. Man, I'm definitely
Speaker 3: with answer.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Trauma dumping though, like when you're when you're being open,
Speaker 1: it is it is helpful for people because people are like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: Danny Brown's this fucking cool rapper. God, he's probably like
Speaker 1: just you know, having sex with models and doing all this,
Speaker 1: but you know, and then for you to you know,
Speaker 1: talk openly about things that you're struggling with, people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: and then there's people who are like dreaming. They're like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: once I'm like, you know, famous and successful and whatever
Speaker 1: the fuck, then I'm never gonna have any problems ever. Again,
Speaker 1: to hear people who are as successful talk about problems
Speaker 1: they have, they're like, oh, maybe it's not these external
Speaker 1: things that I have to achieve to reach, but it's
Speaker 1: something you know, more internal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I said, I would cause a lot of
Speaker 2: the problems to myself.
Speaker 3: But every time I would like make an album, like
Speaker 3: even now, like you know, having an album getting ready
Speaker 3: to come out, I would just get this crazy anxiety,
Speaker 3: Like I would just be so afraid. It was almost
Speaker 3: like cause you know, once you're trying to get on,
Speaker 3: you know, it's like joy, like you're just happy any
Speaker 3: little thing that happened. But once you kind of feel
Speaker 3: like you made it in some sense, it feels like
Speaker 3: anything can take it away, right, you don't want to
Speaker 3: lose that like one and make one trash album.
Speaker 2: I'm done.
Speaker 3: And I used to just be so scared, like having
Speaker 3: an album get ready to come out and be like,
Speaker 3: oh man, just people think it sucks. Careers about to
Speaker 3: be over. Maybe I shouldn't have made that, Maybe I
Speaker 3: should make some more songs and stuff like that. But
Speaker 3: now it's like I'm just in a happy place, even
Speaker 3: though this album is a complete trauma do but for me, man,
Speaker 3: a lot of my favorite albums with musicians from adopting.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to get on this. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: drill into my head this idea that I think. I
Speaker 1: think sucking and being kind of cringey is not that bad.
Speaker 1: It's not that bad if you suck. And if everyone
Speaker 1: thinks you suck, because what whatever? Man, And look as
Speaker 1: long as as long as you don't like go to
Speaker 1: jail or get grievously injured or die, you're you're.
Speaker 2: Probably fine, you know.
Speaker 1: So like sucking is just in that if you like,
Speaker 1: I want, I want to get my base. I want
Speaker 1: to get my perspective to such a point where that's
Speaker 1: all I care about. You know, if I woke if
Speaker 1: I woke up today and everyone online thinks I'm you know, cringey,
Speaker 1: but I can like walk and eat food and stare
Speaker 1: at the sky. That's pretty good. That's pretty good, that's
Speaker 1: pretty That's.
Speaker 3: Really important because for the most part, music is subjective.
Speaker 3: It's going to be someone that thinks it sucks, it's
Speaker 3: going to be someone that love it, regardless of what
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: So it's like, man, I used to.
Speaker 3: Just put myself through a whirlwind of trouble and then
Speaker 3: getting sucked up trying to escape, and I think about it,
Speaker 3: and that just caused more problems.
Speaker 1: You know, when you're when you're on your like deathbed,
Speaker 1: what are you going to be thinking about?
Speaker 2: Why do you want to think about my death?
Speaker 3: No, for the most part, I just hope that I've
Speaker 3: I've accomplished what I had to accomplish on Earth. That's
Speaker 3: really what I think. You know, I want to be
Speaker 3: able to whatever I was put here for to do.
Speaker 3: I just hope I accomplished a mission.
Speaker 1: If you if you died tomorrow, hopefully like would you
Speaker 1: be like we did it?
Speaker 2: Obviously I did. If I died, it's pretty.
Speaker 1: Good, all right, So then you can spend so then
Speaker 1: you know everything and everything else just the bonus, you know,
Speaker 1: you can suck for the rest of your life.
Speaker 3: And I feel like, you know, I obviously didn't do
Speaker 3: what I came here to do yet, So you know,
Speaker 3: but I ain't trying to think about that no time.
Speaker 3: So I spend too much time thinking about immortality, you know.
Speaker 3: So now I'm just, you know, instead of thinking about
Speaker 3: fucking dying all the time, thinking about living.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I saw, I saw, I saw it.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was doing some research on you before this, and
Speaker 1: I saw someone that road a headline about you that said, like,
Speaker 1: Danny Brown.
Speaker 2: Yeah tears.
Speaker 1: What the fuck is no longer afraid to die?
Speaker 6: Who?
Speaker 2: Like, why would you do that?
Speaker 1: That's a that's a that's a dangerous invitation to the universe.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess now, man, Twitter paying people for tweets, man,
Speaker 3: so they do anything for engagements at this point.
Speaker 2: You know, Hey you want to take a phone call, sure, But.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was pissed off about that. I'm like, what
Speaker 3: the fuck out of all that long ass article? That's
Speaker 3: what y'all took from that. Now he has a new
Speaker 3: album coming soon, nothing else. He's not scared to die,
Speaker 3: And that really just was me talking about a mushroom
Speaker 3: trip I had where I saw my grave and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, it's not that bad, So what the fuck?
Speaker 1: Hello? Hello, this is Sam, twenty seven from California.
Speaker 2: How you doing.
Speaker 1: How's life?
Speaker 10: I'm doing all right. I'm doing all right.
Speaker 1: Sam. What does it you wanted to talk about today?
Speaker 10: I wanted to talk about growing up in the Mormon
Speaker 10: Church as a black man adopted into a white family
Speaker 10: in the California suburbs.
Speaker 1: Do you know anything about Mormonism?
Speaker 2: Fuck? No, what I do?
Speaker 10: Indeed?
Speaker 1: Well was I was asking? I used you, I assume
Speaker 1: know a lot about Mormonism, unless if you weren't paying
Speaker 1: attention while they were teaching you about it. How long
Speaker 1: were you and were you in the.
Speaker 10: Church for Yeah, I wasn't until I was fifteen. I
Speaker 10: got taken out of the home when I was around
Speaker 10: that age, and but yeah, I was in it for
Speaker 10: fifteen years. And my entire except for my mom, is
Speaker 10: out of the religion.
Speaker 2: Now did you Were you the first one to leave?
Speaker 10: No, my older brother was. So my parents pretty much
Speaker 10: gave him the ultimatum that when you turn eighteen, you
Speaker 10: can stay in the house, but there's no drinking, no smoking,
Speaker 10: no no no sex before marriage or anything like that,
Speaker 10: and you're guarantee the spot. But if not, then the
Speaker 10: a deletes. It's like final I'll join the military.
Speaker 1: So you left and joined the military.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds.
Speaker 1: I don't know which one is worse, between being in
Speaker 1: the Mormon Church or being in the military. They both
Speaker 1: sound like a similar level of strictness.
Speaker 10: Yeah, they're both pretty bad. But one of them doesn't
Speaker 10: really care if you jerk off at night and the
Speaker 10: other one, I mean, you know, does different levels of rigidness.
Speaker 1: I assume, m do you uh where where are you
Speaker 1: jerking off at night in the Is it like in
Speaker 1: the bathroom or are you just like in the bunk beds,
Speaker 1: jerking off like while you're in the same room as
Speaker 1: all the other folks?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 10: Hell no, that's hell is shameful. Get it in wherever
Speaker 10: you can. Yeah, I ain't that ship, you know, wait
Speaker 10: for everyone to go home, you know, wait for one
Speaker 10: to leave whatever, it's crazy, Hell is shameful.
Speaker 2: Should suck Dan?
Speaker 1: Any questions so far?
Speaker 3: I'm at a loss for words. So you lef a
Speaker 3: religion just to jack off?
Speaker 2: Hell?
Speaker 10: Yeah, come on, now.
Speaker 2: This is what they have in our armed forces China
Speaker 2: gonna fuck us up?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 1: Well I have have they?
Speaker 4: We?
Speaker 1: I think what we gotta do is you need to
Speaker 1: you need to somehow weaponize.
Speaker 2: Jerking off so.
Speaker 1: That you can use it as something accomplish some form
Speaker 1: of biochemical You can use your penis as like a
Speaker 1: biochemical weapon.
Speaker 2: You crazy join the military just to jack off?
Speaker 10: I mean you have to. I mean that's the only
Speaker 10: reason to join the military. You want to go kill
Speaker 10: kids in a different country and.
Speaker 4: Not be able to jack off?
Speaker 2: You got me there? What do you what do you
Speaker 2: do now?
Speaker 1: Are you still in the military?
Speaker 10: No, no, no, that was my brother. I was in
Speaker 10: the military. I just I just left.
Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, I'm terrified at this guy.
Speaker 10: I mean, see the upbringing man.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: Are you sure you're black?
Speaker 5: Weird?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 10: See that's the thing though, because even though I was
Speaker 10: born in the Bronx, when you're adopted by a bunch
Speaker 10: of like white people from the Midwest, you kind of
Speaker 10: sound white. You feel me?
Speaker 2: All right? I got you? Are you are?
Speaker 1: Are you happier now that you're out of the out
Speaker 1: of the church and out of the military, and now
Speaker 1: you you're jacking off? Is not under monitored? Is not
Speaker 1: being monitored by any organization of any kind?
Speaker 10: No, No, I get to jack off freely now. It's
Speaker 10: it's a good life. It's a good life.
Speaker 2: Are you with us right now? What was the question?
Speaker 10: No, that's that's for later. Yeah, a year, come on.
Speaker 4: Later.
Speaker 2: What do you want us to help you with?
Speaker 10: Do you like Lemons?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: If yes? If we like Lemons?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Lemons.
Speaker 1: I like lemonade.
Speaker 10: And should I make my friend lemon meringue pie this weekend?
Speaker 2: If you're not gonna jack off, isn't it? I think
Speaker 2: he just trove?
Speaker 10: No, no, no, just Lemons, just Lemons.
Speaker 1: Man, do you feel satisfied by this phone call? Sam?
Speaker 10: I'm quite satisfied.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 10: Don't jack off until lemon meringue pie and leave Mormonism
Speaker 10: if it's bad for.
Speaker 2: You, just noted. Thanks man, take care.
Speaker 1: I mean it's a psycho that I was definitely jacking
Speaker 1: off on the phone.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I feel like that's a villain arc.
Speaker 12: Start like, yeah, and he's got that is a that
Speaker 12: is quite a quite an interesting villain arc because he
Speaker 12: has the traumatic childhood of a villain and then he's.
Speaker 1: Got the weapons training of a villain as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's just want jack off everywhere. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: needs to find a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Do you jack off a lot?
Speaker 2: I used to? What changed.
Speaker 1: Not being hungover being being just being hungover and make
Speaker 1: you want to jernk off a lot?
Speaker 2: I think so it did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, huh h huh. Would you like with all that
Speaker 1: adrenaline after the shows? Do you are you a nightly
Speaker 1: post show jack jack? Are offer?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say not not, No, I weren't really. I
Speaker 3: was kind of sleeping but the most But like I said,
Speaker 3: I work. I'd get some work in before I know
Speaker 3: what I pass out, but I was. I was taking
Speaker 3: Valerian root. What's Valerian root? It's just like some Valerian
Speaker 3: root capsules they say helped with anxiety. When they really worked,
Speaker 3: it really worked good. So I would get off stage,
Speaker 3: I take some Valerium route and I'd be calm, like
Speaker 3: it was. You know, I think jacking off its.
Speaker 1: More like a you know, stimulant, like.
Speaker 3: A just like I don't know, something you feel like
Speaker 3: cuters anxiety or like you just like nervousness or absolutely
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, so it was one of those
Speaker 3: kind of things, or like you just can't sleep, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, But for the most problem is getting good sleep.
Speaker 1: On the road. You know, what's this thing called again?
Speaker 2: Valerian root?
Speaker 1: Valerium root is that? Can you buy it at like
Speaker 1: a place or you have to.
Speaker 2: Order it just like you know?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah it was It works because I've had a
Speaker 1: lot of nights where like, uh, I'm just like jacking
Speaker 1: off like a like four times in a row or something.
Speaker 1: They just to fall asleep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been there and it's hard.
Speaker 1: In the suit. Because I have gloves on.
Speaker 2: It probably feels better.
Speaker 1: It does. Jayden from Wisconsin just had just had a baby.
Speaker 1: It wasn't intentional, but he wants to know what our
Speaker 1: advice would be to young.
Speaker 2: Parents your parent, right, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Wanna talk to you want to talk to Jaden?
Speaker 2: Men? You got to be a father to your child.
Speaker 2: It's kind of.
Speaker 1: Simple, Jayden, what's going on?
Speaker 13: Hey, what's up?
Speaker 1: How's it going?
Speaker 11: Man?
Speaker 1: I'm here with mister Danny Brown. We're talking to people
Speaker 1: on the phone. How's life pretty good?
Speaker 11: Man?
Speaker 6: How about I mean, I guess how about you guys.
Speaker 6: It seems like you guys are having a pretty good
Speaker 6: time on there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're great with chilling.
Speaker 1: I'm having fun too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what's up?
Speaker 4: Well? I called in about the baby. But then I thought,
Speaker 4: do you guys know what the cowboy kisses?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: No, So.
Speaker 2: I had this boss.
Speaker 4: Well, I guess you'd call him a cowboy.
Speaker 1: But you know how we were talking before, we were
Speaker 1: talking before going live, and I had asked Dan had
Speaker 1: asked you if you had never taken phone calls before
Speaker 1: on your shows. You said you like used to, but
Speaker 1: there was too much weird shit. Yeah, and then the
Speaker 1: weird shit this was some of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what's the cowboy kiss?
Speaker 6: So it's a grown man.
Speaker 4: I guess this grown man was about seventy years old.
Speaker 13: Uh.
Speaker 6: He thinks you're either doing a pretty bad job or
Speaker 6: a pretty good job, and he surprises you with a
Speaker 6: slap first.
Speaker 10: And then he proceeds to lean in and.
Speaker 6: Kissy when you don't when you don't expect it, man,
Speaker 6: don't expect it.
Speaker 4: At all baffles you.
Speaker 2: So you got the cowboy kiss.
Speaker 6: I got the cowboy kiss man. And you know, honestly, yeah, dude,
Speaker 6: he slapped, he slapped me.
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 2: And you didn't hit him back?
Speaker 6: Oh I did?
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 6: I gave him a cowboy kiss back.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, this sounds like some form of BDSM.
Speaker 6: I mean kinda.
Speaker 10: I mean I didn't.
Speaker 6: I don't know though, because I didn't like it at first, but.
Speaker 2: You like it now?
Speaker 6: No, no, no, I ended up quitting that job, not
Speaker 6: because of the cowboy kids, but he was he was
Speaker 6: a crazy.
Speaker 10: Redneck on PCP.
Speaker 11: That doesn't never really makes.
Speaker 2: Yeh, seventy years old, dude, No in.
Speaker 6: The fucking trees, big ass bucket truck cutting down them trees.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, okay, cowboy hat on bowl of PCP. I'm
Speaker 6: not even like fucking with you guys or nothing like.
Speaker 13: I'm so dead ass right now. Job, I was a lumberjack.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, that's some that's some hard work right there.
Speaker 1: How are things going with Your Child's doing great?
Speaker 6: Right, She's pretty cool. She just likes to look around
Speaker 6: and sleep and poop and yell at me.
Speaker 13: But that's okay.
Speaker 1: You called and you said you wanted some advice to
Speaker 1: a young parents.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The how old were you when you had your kid? Twenty? Okay?
Speaker 1: Was that was that difficult for you or was there
Speaker 1: any things that you remember kind of being stressed out
Speaker 1: about or struggling with.
Speaker 3: Yeah, financially, worrying about how it's gonna take care of
Speaker 3: for real.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was the biggest deal.
Speaker 3: But I think when you have a kid that that young,
Speaker 3: you just got to realize.
Speaker 2: Your life is over. It's over. Brother, party had none
Speaker 2: of that. The party is over, no more, none of that.
Speaker 2: Everything is for a kid now. You know, more cowboy kissing,
Speaker 2: No more cowboy kisses. So it's all about the baby now.
Speaker 3: So your whole life is dedicated to taking care of
Speaker 3: this beautiful life that you brought into the world.
Speaker 6: Man, I got my whole I got my whole own crib.
Speaker 6: Now I'm remodeling a house cause I ended up getting
Speaker 6: into this farm, which I'm gonna be buying and it'll
Speaker 6: be pretty cool.
Speaker 4: But because it's like I'm buying it on payments from
Speaker 4: this old lady.
Speaker 2: And you got a lot going on. But someone just eighteen,
Speaker 2: Yeah I was.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Man, you're like, you're buying a farm,
Speaker 1: you're a lumberjack, you're having a kid. Do you have
Speaker 1: any advice for me?
Speaker 6: Keep doing you're man.
Speaker 4: I love watching you.
Speaker 6: Oh, thanks, Man, got my earbuds in cutting down some.
Speaker 2: Trees you're doing.
Speaker 1: I love milk.
Speaker 6: Oh And actually I called you a while back as
Speaker 6: rob about my cat, and you told me to put
Speaker 6: him into the jail for a thousand years. And I
Speaker 6: think that was pretty good advice.
Speaker 1: I told you to put your cat in jail for.
Speaker 4: A thousand years.
Speaker 1: And look at you now, you're buying a farm.
Speaker 2: Fuck.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the cat to come with me though, I can't lie.
Speaker 1: What's the what's how's everything going with the mom? Are
Speaker 1: you still with her? What's going on with her?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're doing pretty good. She's at one of her
Speaker 6: friend's house. My first night alone with the baby.
Speaker 1: M hm, this is your first night alone with the
Speaker 1: baby and you're supposed to be taking care of the baby.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm holder right now.
Speaker 6: Okay an I gave her a bottle action right before
Speaker 6: you guys answered.
Speaker 4: That was pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Good job man, good job.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you're gonna be fine. Yeah, you sound
Speaker 1: like a great you sound I wish you were my dad.
Speaker 4: I will be.
Speaker 6: Let me the adoption paper.
Speaker 1: That's cool, all right, I'm moving. I i'd love to, hey, man,
Speaker 1: if you prepare a nice bale of hay for me,
Speaker 1: I'll live in your farm, be your son.
Speaker 6: I don't mind. I'll give you two bails a hey,
Speaker 6: how about that.
Speaker 1: Well, Jayden, damn, you actually really do sound like you
Speaker 1: have you are you? I I I genuinely you sound
Speaker 1: like you're gonna be okay. I'm not worried about you
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 6: Fuck yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I'm any other final words for Jaden.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Man, just like I told him, Man, everything is
Speaker 3: about the baby, not man. Your life is over.
Speaker 4: Man, you sound like Drewski.
Speaker 1: All right, take care of jidd.
Speaker 4: You too.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 11: It's awesome talking to you.
Speaker 1: Talking to man. Well, it's it's funny. I believe the
Speaker 1: same thing, right, Like, when you have a kid, your
Speaker 1: life is pretty much over. But that doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: it was the case for you. You've seen You've lived
Speaker 1: a full life up until this point.
Speaker 3: Mean, I wasn't a lumberjack at eighteen. I was selling cracks,
Speaker 3: but I have I had young parents, you know. My
Speaker 3: mom was eighteen when she had me. My dad was sixteen,
Speaker 3: and look how it turned out. So yeah, fucked up.
Speaker 3: But no, Man, and my parents they partied every weekend
Speaker 3: type shit. Yeah, So that's what I'm saying. Like that
Speaker 3: was where a lot of my fucking you know, a
Speaker 3: lot of I got into a lot of trouble because
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 1: You know, are you still are your your parents still around?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely? Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you still cool with them?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh good? Good?
Speaker 1: Have you and liked? Were you cool with them in
Speaker 1: your whole life?
Speaker 2: Mmm?
Speaker 3: You know, I guess it's just like everything else it's been.
Speaker 3: When I was fucking up, you know, you know, it
Speaker 3: was always button heads with my mom or well me
Speaker 3: and my dad.
Speaker 2: We got really close. So this is good. It's good.
Speaker 1: How things going with your daughter?
Speaker 2: Now? She's great.
Speaker 3: She just was out here not too long ago, hanging out.
Speaker 3: You know, she's twenty two now.
Speaker 2: Oh cool, So she's grown.
Speaker 1: What's her like? What she do? What's her what's her deal.
Speaker 2: With she's into like photography and shit?
Speaker 1: Oh cool?
Speaker 2: You know she come out here, she go thrifting and shiit,
Speaker 2: same shit.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Now when you said you were twenty and you had
Speaker 1: her and you were like and then the main issue
Speaker 1: was just like financial stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then me and her mom wasn't together, so
Speaker 3: just that whole hard part of just being able to
Speaker 3: see her and being around her and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But then you know, we eventually worked it out.
Speaker 3: But I mean, I like, I had a lot of
Speaker 3: crazy shit, Like I had my first well, I was
Speaker 3: having my first child at sixteen, and the mom was
Speaker 3: she went nine months and didn't had a miscarriage and
Speaker 3: the baby died. And I struggled with that for a
Speaker 3: long time. Didn't really realize how much it affected me
Speaker 3: because I was like running around in the streets at
Speaker 3: the time. But once I really got older, I was like, man,
Speaker 3: I was I went through a real something that really
Speaker 3: shaped my life for the rest you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: for the rest of my life, and it really Yeah,
Speaker 3: just dealing with that in high school, you were supposed
Speaker 3: to be thinking about fucking homework and graduating and shit
Speaker 3: like that, and I'm running around selling drugs having babies,
Speaker 3: you know, So that was really hard.
Speaker 1: Was there was there like a point in your life
Speaker 1: where even even now, where like you were thinking a
Speaker 1: lot about things from high school in your early life
Speaker 1: and being like having that realization that they still affected
Speaker 1: you to this day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I always think about how shit would have
Speaker 3: turned out if I just would have did the right thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe I wouldn't be here right now, maybe
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be making music or anything, you know. Like
Speaker 3: I think about that all the time, Like, you know,
Speaker 3: there's a gift and a curse in some sense. You know,
Speaker 3: if I would have had a baby at sixteen, I
Speaker 3: probably would have been working some bullshit job right now.
Speaker 3: You know, I wouldn't have been able to fucking follow
Speaker 3: my dreams of making music, you know. So it was
Speaker 3: almost like that's my angel in the sky, like you know,
Speaker 3: getting me through life kind of.
Speaker 2: Shit, you know.
Speaker 1: And that at twenty was it like was it was
Speaker 1: it an intentional decision to have a.
Speaker 3: Care Definitely, but I think yeah, we was going through
Speaker 3: the trauma of losing that one, so yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't say it was intentional, but you know,
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: H So the it was the same girl at sixteen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: okay do you And and was it like right sort
Speaker 1: of after you had the kid that things started going
Speaker 1: to arrive with her?
Speaker 3: No, we was already it was like before there even
Speaker 3: any of that happened. It was like we were already
Speaker 3: kind of like you know, you know, you is when
Speaker 3: you're young. I was running around, she was doing every
Speaker 3: thing too, and it was just you know, we were
Speaker 3: still fooling around and just ended up happening. But then
Speaker 3: we ended up. We was together, we got back together
Speaker 3: for some years. We was together for a long time,
Speaker 3: and then I just was a piece of shit, you know,
Speaker 3: I was. I wasn't really ready for that kind of thing,
Speaker 3: Like I wasn't ready for like a I just didn't understand.
Speaker 3: I'm like I said, I came from young parents, so
Speaker 3: I didn't even understand what it takes to have a family,
Speaker 3: you know, so I just think, you know, like a
Speaker 3: lot of fucked up part on me. You know, still
Speaker 3: I was still trying.
Speaker 2: To be young too. You know.
Speaker 1: It's a wild thing because I I feel like if you,
Speaker 1: if you like have a kid, your life it is hard.
Speaker 1: It's like it's about the kid.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm now I'm thinking about Jaden, and you know, he
Speaker 1: really did seem like, yeah, he had it together like me.
Speaker 3: I was running around so like even you know, having
Speaker 3: a kid and trying to sell drugs, like any day
Speaker 3: the ship could have been overwhere and I could have
Speaker 3: been in jail, which happened. I went to jail for
Speaker 3: a year, and that's pretty much how we split up.
Speaker 3: She met somebody else and moved on, you know, type shit,
Speaker 3: and then you know, I got out. It's hard to
Speaker 3: see my daughter and this and that, and just hard
Speaker 3: to keep that relationship going. And but it did give
Speaker 3: me a drive to make it in music though, like
Speaker 3: you know, it was almost like just like I got it,
Speaker 3: I had nothing else going for me. You know, I
Speaker 3: dropped out of school, didn't have any education really, and
Speaker 3: all I knew how to do was fucking sell drugs
Speaker 3: at that point.
Speaker 2: To get money.
Speaker 3: I was trying to get like normal jobs and shit,
Speaker 3: and just working like normal jobs up fuck and just couldn't.
Speaker 3: I'm not like built the labor, but you.
Speaker 1: There's but there's there's something of like you were built
Speaker 1: to be an entrepreneur. You know, you were a built
Speaker 1: to like make it for yourself, but not like you know,
Speaker 1: working But.
Speaker 3: It did get me that drive, though, I would say,
Speaker 3: because I was like I would take twelve hour greyhound
Speaker 3: trips to New York with the bag of CDs and
Speaker 3: just trying to network this days before like cell phones
Speaker 3: and shit, I'm going out there without a phone.
Speaker 1: Were you like doing the thing like I went to Square,
Speaker 1: like handing out CDs and stuff.
Speaker 3: In the beginning, Yeah, but then I had met an
Speaker 3: A and R that worked at Death Jam. So then
Speaker 3: I had that connection with him, and then I would
Speaker 3: talk to him and I'll come out sometimes I'll just
Speaker 3: pop up on him, but I come out here and
Speaker 3: then he'll let me like crash at his crib and
Speaker 3: we'd like take me around the studios and shit. And
Speaker 3: that's really how it all started for me. And then
Speaker 3: I just was making music, you know, and you know,
Speaker 3: people getting up on my ship and shit, like just
Speaker 3: making connections kind of, you know. And then I actually
Speaker 3: just saw him not too long ago. We were in
Speaker 3: New York and then ended up going to jail.
Speaker 2: I lost that ship. Then I came when I got
Speaker 2: back out, it.
Speaker 1: Was this was this you had like a kind of
Speaker 1: like a recording.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, just networking and building with him.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Once I but this was like way before like internet
Speaker 3: shit kind of, you know. So the main deal would
Speaker 3: be like you know, I would go out to New
Speaker 3: York and then people are like hit back, like seeing
Speaker 3: you know, hit up, like people in Detroit and like
Speaker 3: you heard it as kid and this and that, and
Speaker 3: then nobody knew who I was. So it was almost
Speaker 3: like when I got a jug, like I got to
Speaker 3: make my name known in my city before I can
Speaker 3: take it anywhere else. So that's what I did once
Speaker 3: I got out of jail. I would like go to
Speaker 3: open my aches and you know, just make music and
Speaker 3: put it out. And then the internet things start taking off,
Speaker 3: you know, getting my music on blogs and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and then everything just kind of came together because I
Speaker 3: already had like the connections in New York, and then
Speaker 3: once I got my name up in my city, then
Speaker 3: everything just like opened up for me.
Speaker 1: Do you do you ever think about, you know, what
Speaker 1: you would be doing if if it wasn't for music,
Speaker 1: or even if even like any other like positive thing
Speaker 1: you would have, you would have sunk your your your
Speaker 1: work ethic into.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I can't. I can't think so.
Speaker 3: I don't think so, because like most of my friends
Speaker 3: from like back then, they are pretty much dead or
Speaker 3: in jail, as cliche as that sounds. And if not,
Speaker 3: then it's just like you know, working dead in jobs
Speaker 3: or you know. So I don't know, man, it's almost
Speaker 3: like music was that's like my last That's like my
Speaker 3: last thing that I had.
Speaker 1: Man, are you still friends with anyone from Yeah?
Speaker 3: Definitely time, Yeah, definitely a lot of my friends, you know,
Speaker 3: But I feel like I met a lot of my
Speaker 3: you know, newer friends through music. Like we like I said,
Speaker 3: you know, doing the same ship. So like a lot
Speaker 3: of my friends that I have now is like for
Speaker 3: my music time and not for my street days.
Speaker 13: You know.
Speaker 1: Do you like so your your kind of social life nowadays?
Speaker 1: Do you do you find yourself mainly like trying to
Speaker 1: hang around other people who are who are sober?
Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't say that, because one thing they teach
Speaker 3: you kind of rehabits that you can't. The worst thing
Speaker 3: you can do is try to run from it. You know,
Speaker 3: you have to be able to like so like when
Speaker 3: people around, I want them to be able to be
Speaker 3: comfortable and do whatever they want to do. It's not
Speaker 3: going to trigger me. I already got it in my
Speaker 3: head that, you know, that's not what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 3: That's not where I'm living. So the last thing you
Speaker 3: can do is try to run from it. And that's
Speaker 3: just that's just causing more problems for yourself. Like if
Speaker 3: you're not around it for years and then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden you around it might be subject to relapse.
Speaker 1: There's a weird thing of like, if you're engaging both
Speaker 1: engaging in an activity constantly and engaging in the avoidance
Speaker 1: of an activity constantly, are still both forms of that
Speaker 1: activity having some fucking roll over you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's why when I'm around people, I want
Speaker 3: them to do what they want to do, to feel
Speaker 3: comfortable and be able to be in a element and
Speaker 3: not be worried about me. You know, that was solely
Speaker 3: the reason why I didn't ride on a tour bus,
Speaker 3: because I didn't want anybody to feel like they couldn't
Speaker 3: get fucked up around me and be like that. I
Speaker 3: was like, you know, it's all good. I just take
Speaker 3: a band and just ride behind the bus.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, Who who do you when you go on
Speaker 1: tour with like your girlfriend and like you have.
Speaker 2: I've got my tour manager and my DJ.
Speaker 1: Cool cool cool cool.
Speaker 2: I mean, my girl came up to a few shows.
Speaker 2: You know, we kicked it.
Speaker 3: But for the most part, it's like, when I'm locked
Speaker 3: into like music mode, I can't have any outside distractions.
Speaker 1: You know, are you when you're do you ever make
Speaker 1: any like adaptations to to your songs while you're performing?
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, that might sound better doing that all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes it's just you know, like you know, you're
Speaker 3: performing songs that are so old or like, you know,
Speaker 3: these songs I wrote ten years ago some shit like that,
Speaker 3: and it almost just happened like a freestyle type of
Speaker 3: type of thing where I'm singing the songs because I'm
Speaker 3: not like listening to them all the time, right type
Speaker 3: of thing. So sometime I get up there and I'd
Speaker 3: be rapping and I would change a line. It just
Speaker 3: happens on its own, and before I know it, that
Speaker 3: becomes the line when if.
Speaker 1: It what's your what's your fan base? Like, like what
Speaker 1: kind of what demographics you're seeing out there?
Speaker 3: Well, this last tour was it was crazy because it
Speaker 3: was a lot of younger kids, and it's you know
Speaker 3: that I wasn't really used to that, Like I didn't
Speaker 3: really see too many kids at my shows. But you know,
Speaker 3: I guess Peggy he has a younger fan based than me.
Speaker 3: So it was cool to see some kids out there,
Speaker 3: you know, enjoying the music and shit. But for the
Speaker 3: most part, I think of I don't know, I think
Speaker 3: I gotta I couldn't. I couldn't really say, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: How does it. How does it make you feel when
Speaker 1: people tell you that, like, you know, you you inspire them,
Speaker 1: or that they look up to you and whatnot. What's
Speaker 1: your kind of like relationship to other people's perspective on you.
Speaker 3: It's it inspired me to be honest, you know, before
Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't even give a shit, you know, but
Speaker 3: now I just realize how much it is a blessing
Speaker 3: to been doing this for over ten years now. So
Speaker 3: now it's almost like I'm just grateful man, to be
Speaker 3: even and still in the same position, to still have
Speaker 3: to drive to make music, to steal for newer fans
Speaker 3: to come and hear my shit every day is almost
Speaker 3: just like a blessing, man, because I've seen so many
Speaker 3: people that started when I started and they not here
Speaker 3: no more. Yeah, you know, And like I say, man,
Speaker 3: music is subjective.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: You never know, man, when it's your last song or
Speaker 3: you know, like it's been so many artists that I'm
Speaker 3: huge fans of and they can't you know, people are
Speaker 3: not checking for the shit and this and that.
Speaker 2: So it's a scary, man. It's a slippery slope.
Speaker 1: Man. It's yeah, that's kind of back to what you
Speaker 1: were talking about with like the when things are going good,
Speaker 1: it's like there's a weird fucking anxiety, like everything's gonna tumble.
Speaker 1: I feel that way too, Like I'm you know, I'm
Speaker 1: lucky enough to get to do a podcast where people can,
Speaker 1: you know, talk to me about jerking off into pond.
Speaker 3: Now I've gotten better with it though, Like, I just
Speaker 3: think it's for the most part, man, just you gotta.
Speaker 2: Have faith, as you know, Yeah, as weird does that sound?
Speaker 2: And I hate it, but you gotta have faith.
Speaker 1: I know what you mean. You gotta stop being such
Speaker 1: a such a baby and be like, no, I got this.
Speaker 3: I just feel like when you know you're doing the
Speaker 3: right shit in life, the right shit is gonna happen
Speaker 3: for you. If you're out there fucking up and you've
Speaker 3: been a piece of shit, then of course you got
Speaker 3: a lot of shit to worry about it. Like Karena's real, man, Hey, you.
Speaker 1: Want to talk to another caller? Sure, Shane. His boss
Speaker 1: has a drinking problem and is constantly over sharing about
Speaker 1: it and it makes him uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I definitely have a lot a lot
Speaker 3: of experience with that.
Speaker 2: Yo. Hello, what's up?
Speaker 1: Shane? Twenty five from ohio his life.
Speaker 8: Oh it's not too bad.
Speaker 4: How's he going for.
Speaker 1: You, Danny? How you feeling?
Speaker 2: I'm great? How you doing? Brother?
Speaker 7: Good?
Speaker 10: Good?
Speaker 1: Well? Shane? You you you messaged in saying that you're
Speaker 1: you're you're dealing with an oversharing boss. Is that correct?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us, tell us, tell us more, or tell
Speaker 1: us whatever you desire to tell us.
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I work at this catering company. It's actually
Speaker 8: based out of like an old slaughterhouse. It's it's a
Speaker 8: really creepy building, but it's currently being bought out by
Speaker 8: somebody else who's he's like, he's he's cool enough. I
Speaker 8: guess I'm having against him. But he likes to overshare
Speaker 8: a lot about his personal stuff, like very personal stuff.
Speaker 8: And he he told me a while back that he's
Speaker 8: got a drinking problem and he's going to like meetings
Speaker 8: about it every day, which is cool, good for him.
Speaker 8: He's currently also drinking on the job as well.
Speaker 4: I've I've.
Speaker 8: He he takes a little by a coax and mixes
Speaker 8: it with whiskey.
Speaker 4: I've found.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing in terms of the jobs, that
Speaker 1: he could be getting drunk at catering company. Not that bad.
Speaker 8: That's fair. It's and it's it's not like there's a
Speaker 8: bunch of people that work there. It's kind of just myself.
Speaker 1: Basically, are you are you like debating about like what
Speaker 1: I guess what what anguish, if any is is this
Speaker 1: presenting to you?
Speaker 8: It's really awkward. I don't do good with people who overshare,
Speaker 8: especially people they don't know super well.
Speaker 1: And yet you're a fan of this podcast.
Speaker 8: I know that's weird in that.
Speaker 1: Hmm, Danny, You ever have somebody in your life over
Speaker 1: share in a way that makes you feel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was probably me. You know.
Speaker 3: They say a drunk person speaks a sober mind, you know,
Speaker 3: and the only people that tell the truth is people.
Speaker 3: It's people that are mad kids and drunk motherfucker. So
Speaker 3: sounds like to me, man, it seems like he's going
Speaker 3: to meet and so he know he has a problem,
Speaker 3: which is the first step to get help and to
Speaker 3: being on a road to sobriety. I think for the
Speaker 3: most part, you gotta do it. Just tell him he's
Speaker 3: making you uncomfortable. That's just the easiest thing to do,
Speaker 3: especially when he's drunk, you know, like, dog, shut the
Speaker 3: fuck up. You know, it's drunk. You're not gonna take
Speaker 3: it any baby.
Speaker 2: You know. Do you drink?
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's fair, not really. No, I smoke more than
Speaker 8: I drink for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you know?
Speaker 1: I have a question, why does it make you uncomfortable
Speaker 1: when when this guy shares with you.
Speaker 8: I don't really know him super well. You know, he's
Speaker 8: he just started kind of working there a few months ago.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I guess I can't really explain why it makes me
Speaker 8: super uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if this is just like
Speaker 1: a weird thing with me, and I guess it is
Speaker 1: like what I do on this podcast. But I don't
Speaker 1: mind unless if it's like incessant. I don't mind hearing
Speaker 1: about people's personal lives. I usually find that interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I find humor in it, to be honest.
Speaker 3: But all you got to do, like you say, if
Speaker 3: he's going to meetings and he realized he got a problem,
Speaker 3: if you just set him down and talk to him like, man,
Speaker 3: I think you really got a problem. You need to
Speaker 3: get some help. I bet you wouldn't talk to you
Speaker 3: as no more because he just don't want to drink,
Speaker 3: so he's gonna leave you out this shit Like fuck,
Speaker 3: that I'm getting drunk. I don't want to talk to him.
Speaker 3: He's gonna talk about need help and this and that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but if he's still drinking and going to meetings, then.
Speaker 2: He's fucked up. He's just he's all over the place.
Speaker 1: H Are you trying? Are you trying to help him?
Speaker 3: Or just you are to lead alone he stopped drinking
Speaker 3: or not. Yeah, but yeah, that's all you gotta do
Speaker 3: is that I talk about him like, man, I think
Speaker 3: you really need some help. I'm worried about you. Should
Speaker 3: get on the road to sobriety, bitch. You gonna leo
Speaker 3: as alone in.
Speaker 8: And if he if he drinks, I don't give a
Speaker 8: ship whatever.
Speaker 1: Does his person act like you care like you think
Speaker 1: you think him acting like he cares? I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk to this guy because you don't want to drink. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's smart, that's smart.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just pretend like you really you really want him
Speaker 1: to stop worried about you?
Speaker 10: Man?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Should I sit in the meetings with him? You think?
Speaker 1: Fuck no, but then he'll definitely never talk to you again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe you should do. Do you get like at the
Speaker 1: catering job. Do you get like free Montrell sticks afterwards
Speaker 1: when they're done?
Speaker 8: I mean, I get free whatever whatever we have there?
Speaker 1: Shit, man, getting drunk on the job and then having
Speaker 1: a bunch of like chicken sliders and shit afterwards, that
Speaker 1: sounds pretty awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lee, that's all you gotta do. Just talk to
Speaker 3: him about getting clean. He ain't gonna talk to you
Speaker 3: no more. Heal y alone.
Speaker 4: Hey, maybe I'll do that.
Speaker 1: Shane, Is there anything else you want to say to
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. Thak, I'm good.
Speaker 1: Have a rest of the night, Shane, Thank you all,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Danny, thank you brother. Hey guys, it's Lyle here.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's do some ads. Let's talk to Elizabeth. Hello, Elizabeth.
Speaker 2: Hello, Yes, hi Elizabeth.
Speaker 1: How are you doing.
Speaker 7: Hello, I'm good.
Speaker 1: How are you doing?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling, man.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry. I'm excited just to get on the line.
Speaker 1: No, don't be sorry, don't be sorry at all.
Speaker 7: Yeah, sorry, go ahead, No, Yeah, I just want to
Speaker 7: say I'm a really big fan of you and as
Speaker 7: well as Danny. I went on the Scaring the Host
Speaker 7: War and I saw you guy, or I saw Yeah.
Speaker 7: I saw Danny on in Baltimore and it was amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you play in Baltimore. I remember my friends went
Speaker 1: to that show. Yeah awesome.
Speaker 11: Wow.
Speaker 7: Sorry, I'm like having a little moment because I've been
Speaker 7: a fan of Danny's been triple X, so this is
Speaker 7: like really big for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: But yeah, so sorry, I called him just because obviously
Speaker 7: being a fan of Danny, but also I'm a two artist,
Speaker 7: and as an artist, I think like all artists kind
Speaker 7: of struggle with the same thing. But just like imposter
Speaker 7: syndrome and kind of like comparing yourself to other artists,
Speaker 7: and I was wondering how he kind of feels about
Speaker 7: that and like how he goes about that and just
Speaker 7: dealing with like not feeling like you're adequate even when
Speaker 7: like everyone's telling you you're like artists.
Speaker 3: Well, I think the biggest deal with that is fucking
Speaker 3: social media. I swear, like when you get caught up
Speaker 3: and see what everyone else is doing, it always makes
Speaker 3: you feel like that. And I think for the most part,
Speaker 3: when you just gotta take you gotta take those social
Speaker 3: media breaks and stop worrying about you know, like sometimes
Speaker 3: with me just basically because I fucking do rap music,
Speaker 3: so I just wouldn't listen to rap music and every
Speaker 3: way I can't even I don't know what's going on,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I just get myself out of that world.
Speaker 3: So I'm pretty sure you probably follow a lot of
Speaker 3: tattoo shit, So every time you go on fucking go online,
Speaker 3: you're just seeing tattoo shit everywhere and this and that.
Speaker 3: So just you got to take yourself out of that
Speaker 3: world and then just work on your own shit. I
Speaker 3: think that's the best thing to do, as fucking simple
Speaker 3: as it sounds, but yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 14: Wow, Yeah, No, I really appreciate that. No, I appreciate
Speaker 14: you saying that, and I have heard that advice before.
Speaker 14: But I guess like it's like really hard when like
Speaker 14: a lot of your career is based around social media,
Speaker 14: like getting clients and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I can see that. But yeah, that's
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. You just can't be paying attention to
Speaker 3: what everybody else is doing. Just worry about your own shit.
Speaker 3: That's really all it is. Because I know sometimes like
Speaker 3: us where artists struggle with that too as well. You know,
Speaker 3: you might see somebody you think you better than and
Speaker 3: be like, oh.
Speaker 2: Fuck, this motherfucker's doing good. Why fuck I'm not here.
Speaker 2: I'm out here.
Speaker 3: You can't even worry about that. I think everybody, everybody
Speaker 3: are where they want to be in life in some sense.
Speaker 3: So I think, just stop worrying about other motherfuckers and
Speaker 3: just put the grind on yourself, you know, and just
Speaker 3: start just figuring out what you can do to make
Speaker 3: your shit better instead of looking at other motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: That's really the main thing.
Speaker 1: What's do you have like a specialty kind of thing
Speaker 1: that you like to tattoo flowers or yeah, I.
Speaker 7: Like anime tattoos. Actually, yeah, I'm mostly doing anime, which
Speaker 7: in like the general DMV area, there's not that many
Speaker 7: animes have two artists. But I do compare myself to
Speaker 7: like the ones in La, the ones in New York,
Speaker 7: you know, like all the really great artists out there.
Speaker 7: So it is like probably really good to just kind
Speaker 7: of stop focusing on that and just focus on my
Speaker 7: own thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, struggle. I struggle with that too, of like comparing
Speaker 1: myself to to other people. And I always just noticed
Speaker 1: it's such a time suck distraction from like, you know,
Speaker 1: the most the most important fucking thing is like making stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, and so anything that's not making stuff is
Speaker 1: just is just gonna fuck you. And then and then
Speaker 1: it's weird, right because you you're like, oh, I wish
Speaker 1: I could be where this person is, but it's like
Speaker 1: in order to get where that person is, you just
Speaker 1: got to shut out all the distractions and be making stuff.
Speaker 1: So it's it's like a weird, counterproductive thing to do,
Speaker 1: and I get sucked in on it. And it's true that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, social media just yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: The numbers game now, you see, and you know, everybody's
Speaker 3: just it's a rat race really, you know, but really
Speaker 3: that's all it is, man, Yeah, just just focus on
Speaker 3: your creativity and stop worrying about what everybody else is doing.
Speaker 2: I think social media has fucked us all with that,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, what's thank you so much?
Speaker 6: Sorry?
Speaker 7: What's my favorite anime?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 14: Oh my gosh, you don't want.
Speaker 7: To get me started. I would say right now, it's
Speaker 7: between Fruits Basket has always been one of my favorites.
Speaker 7: It's like a romance drama type thing. And then I
Speaker 7: really am loving Jujitsu Kaisan season two right now. It's like,
Speaker 7: really amazing.
Speaker 1: You're an anime guy. I know you said you're into
Speaker 1: j RPG's.
Speaker 3: Not really I can't say I'm an anime guy at
Speaker 3: I'm more of a hint tay guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah me too.
Speaker 7: Hey, you know there's some good Hends Eyes out there.
Speaker 1: There is. I've talked about this on this podcast before that.
Speaker 1: My actually the first porn I was watching was Hentai.
Speaker 1: So you replay Smash Bros.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I would on my Wii channel. I would go to
Speaker 1: the Internet channel and I would search up zero Suit
Speaker 1: Samus Naked and that was that was some of the
Speaker 1: first stuff.
Speaker 2: That I.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for calling Elizabeth. You want to plug, you go,
Speaker 1: let's do a plug. You want to plug your tattoo Instagram? Yeah,
Speaker 1: do a plug? What's what's your instagram?
Speaker 14: Tattoo?
Speaker 7: Instagram? Is nessa tattoo? That Enna's Nancy e c as
Speaker 7: in cat I a tattoo? All one word, Danny or Lyle. Honestly,
Speaker 7: if you ever want a tattoo, just put me up.
Speaker 7: I got you, guys, We'll take care of m. Thank you, goodbye.
Speaker 7: We love you, Danny.
Speaker 2: I love you too.
Speaker 7: Good Bye.
Speaker 1: Do you have any tattoos?
Speaker 2: Fuck?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 1: Whye funk Now?
Speaker 2: I mean no, I just say that a lot.
Speaker 1: But no, I've just you said you looked at Joey.
Speaker 1: He has a bunch of tes.
Speaker 2: But no, I.
Speaker 3: Just just been scared and I think I've I've aaged
Speaker 3: out of it. I was probably gonna get my first
Speaker 3: tattoo at eighteen, and then I was skepted the appointment.
Speaker 3: Everything I was supposed to show up, and then I
Speaker 3: just ended up getting high. And that's what made myself paranoid.
Speaker 3: Like fun that, but then it's also like another thing too.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of family members that you know,
Speaker 3: fucked around with needles and ship like this. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: that's just like weirded me out too.
Speaker 2: But I love I love tattoos.
Speaker 1: I there's nothing that I'm into that I'm confident that
Speaker 1: I would be into forever, like that that would still
Speaker 1: be like prominent in my life when I get older.
Speaker 1: You know, like if I got a tattoo of something
Speaker 1: right now and then years later, I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna identify with it anymore. Like if I got like
Speaker 1: master shake from aquatine hunger for some of my ankle, Like,
Speaker 1: am I still going to be into that when I'm seventy?
Speaker 3: But it's almost like a memory thing, ain't it, Like
Speaker 3: you know you just got you know?
Speaker 2: But no, I don't know. I just don't want to
Speaker 2: put myself through any pain.
Speaker 1: Joey said, can we get matching tattoos if I pay?
Speaker 1: I still I still well at tatchoes are expensive, aren't
Speaker 1: they They're like they're like what like two hundred bucks
Speaker 1: or something like that.
Speaker 2: But even like I say, I I feel like I
Speaker 2: ate myself out of that. I have to stop.
Speaker 1: Thinking like that, you know, like thinking that you're aged
Speaker 1: out of things. Yeah, you know, some things are good
Speaker 1: to think, to feel like you're aged out of.
Speaker 3: I know, but it's just like I'm always using this
Speaker 3: as an excuse of some type of sense, and I
Speaker 3: just felt like if you look at ship like that,
Speaker 3: then it's like what's next dying? Like you gotta live,
Speaker 3: you know, so just like fuck, get a tattoo, get
Speaker 3: that fucking nipple piercing.
Speaker 1: You know what? What other things do you feel like you're
Speaker 1: aged out of?
Speaker 3: I mean when it comes to like fashion, I don't
Speaker 3: think so. I mean I wouldn't want to be walking
Speaker 3: around wearing like a fucking Spider Man shirt or some shit.
Speaker 2: You know I was, or like wearing like marble clothes
Speaker 2: and shit, or.
Speaker 1: Like are you are you into Spider Man?
Speaker 3: No, I can't say this. I can't say I am,
Speaker 3: But I don't know. Something about that is weird to me,
Speaker 3: Like when you're wearing a motherfucker's be.
Speaker 1: Dude, that's what it's like. Uh. When I was in
Speaker 1: middle school and high school, my wardrobe was all like Marvel, yeah,
Speaker 1: Spider Man because Target, because Target would sell that ship.
Speaker 3: But if you like, I mean, I guess man, you
Speaker 3: know it's old nerds and ship. But I don't know
Speaker 3: for me, I just couldn't fucking wear like fucking marble
Speaker 3: clothes or ship like that.
Speaker 1: Do you feel too old to collect funk pops? No?
Speaker 2: I don't think you're too old to collect anything.
Speaker 1: What about Spider Man T shirts?
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're just gonna collect them and not
Speaker 3: wear them in public, I mean that's pajamas, that's probably cool.
Speaker 2: Just wear them at the krea to yourself.
Speaker 3: But you're going out wearing pajama clothes at a certain age,
Speaker 3: you're gonna I'm gonna think you on roadblocks looking.
Speaker 2: For younger.
Speaker 1: You're you're you're big into fashion, right, yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you uh?
Speaker 1: Do you ever like you design ship?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: But that's I will say I have been more into
Speaker 3: independent designers than I have been, Like buying ship from
Speaker 3: like fashion houses and ship that has been like my
Speaker 3: thing for like the past few years, just like finding
Speaker 3: people on Instagram that.
Speaker 2: Make dope shit.
Speaker 1: Who Now, let's say there was who's like, who's the
Speaker 1: most famous fashion I don't know anything about fashions the
Speaker 1: most famous fashion designer?
Speaker 2: I mean it's so many.
Speaker 1: I mean what if, okay, if a fashion designer that
Speaker 1: you highly respected came out with like a really dope
Speaker 1: spider Man T shirt.
Speaker 3: Na, I'm not fucking with it, but I will say
Speaker 3: one of my favorite it was like back in the day,
Speaker 3: Brands was like Iceberg History and they whole ship was
Speaker 3: about fucking cartoons and ship. Like they had a whole
Speaker 3: Simpsons collection and they had my favorite was they did
Speaker 3: a Milian. They did a Milian collection. But these were
Speaker 3: like thousand dollars T shirts.
Speaker 1: You know, so thousand dollars T shirts?
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 1: What's what's the most amount of money you've spent on
Speaker 1: a piece of clothing.
Speaker 2: Mmm, I don't know. I mean probably about oh twelve thousand.
Speaker 1: It's not terrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was just a cop.
Speaker 1: Okay do they do they hold their value?
Speaker 2: Or I gave it away? Actually?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 2: Really? Would you give it to one? Are my homies?
Speaker 1: Okay? Cool? You know I want to you know, those
Speaker 1: like heart I want you know, those fucking airbrush shirts
Speaker 1: of SpongeBob and he's got like a grill. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want like a designer version of that.
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 3: If you know, guy, I mean they used to make
Speaker 3: those like liquor stores and ship Yeah, you know, and
Speaker 3: you have like bugs Bunny with fucking baggy jeans on ship.
Speaker 3: Those shirts are cool, though, I'm not gonna lie that's drip.
Speaker 3: If you can actually find one from like the early nineties,
Speaker 3: like thri you can probably find for come of that
Speaker 3: ship thrifting though?
Speaker 2: Do you.
Speaker 1: Every day? Are you? Are you very intentional with what
Speaker 1: you wear?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Really that sounds that sounds exhausting.
Speaker 2: I think about it the first day of the morning
Speaker 2: type ship.
Speaker 1: That sounds that. You know, you know the Mark Zuckerberg
Speaker 1: thing right where he like has is what like a
Speaker 1: closet of like one hundred black tear Yeah, yeah, anywhere's
Speaker 1: the same thing every day, just to eliminate that choice.
Speaker 3: But the thing is I think about it is even
Speaker 3: though I do do that, it's a conscious choice to
Speaker 3: make it look like I'm not doing it can make you.
Speaker 1: You intentionally make your words look like unintentionally. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: sounds exhausting.
Speaker 2: It can be, It can't be.
Speaker 1: But I would.
Speaker 3: I did have a great time during his tour. I
Speaker 3: did a lot of truth then, so I got a
Speaker 3: lot of dope ship.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you do you wear a different Actually? Shit,
Speaker 1: what I was, uh, do you said something on one
Speaker 1: of your podcasts that I was listening to recently about
Speaker 1: how you you haven't worn the same thing, the same shirt,
Speaker 1: the same shirt. Yeah, that's true. Are you ever gonna
Speaker 1: I think I did.
Speaker 3: I think I'd wore one shirt twice and that was
Speaker 3: just Does that feel like a bad laundry day?
Speaker 1: No regret that does that feel like a failure deal?
Speaker 3: No, it's just I mean, it just becomes one of
Speaker 3: those hard things like, fuck, I gotta buy some new
Speaker 3: shirts now. So I'm always shopping kind of, but that's
Speaker 3: the one thing that I really wish I can just
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know. I mean, I've been like
Speaker 3: that ever since a kid, you know, I just I
Speaker 3: don't know. I just it's hard for me not to
Speaker 3: buy it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes. I like looking shitty, like because there's a cool
Speaker 1: challenge to it, of like can I walk into this
Speaker 1: place and be socially confident and feeling myself in cargo
Speaker 1: shorts and a fucking Zelda T shirt?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: And this is because it's a challenge to that, it's enjoyable.
Speaker 2: Like my thing is, you gotta kind of dress for
Speaker 2: that situation.
Speaker 3: Like if I'm just going around, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: fucking you like, you know, put on ship that's gonna
Speaker 3: draw a whole much attention to me, even though I
Speaker 3: used to but now at this point in my life,
Speaker 3: I just don't. But it's still gonna be some dope shit,
Speaker 3: you know, like motherfucker probably you why you wouldn't know
Speaker 3: what it is or like you know, motherfucker wouldn't just
Speaker 3: look at me, and I realized, But it's like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm everything I own is some dope shit.
Speaker 2: Like I don't have nothing that's just fucked up, you know,
Speaker 2: but the people who know, no, Yeah, it's almost like
Speaker 2: if you know, no kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Is there any like I guess aside from fashion, is
Speaker 1: there anything hobby wise where you're like, I'm willing to
Speaker 1: like put down some good money on this because it's
Speaker 1: like because I want the quality version of it.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it counts, but like because it's
Speaker 3: part of my job.
Speaker 1: But like music, music, music, I would say that doesn't
Speaker 1: count anything that you couldn't theoretically write off on your taxi.
Speaker 3: Like I find myself fucking just spending thousands of dollars
Speaker 3: on plug ins and it's like what the fuck? I
Speaker 3: don't even use half of them now, you know, But
Speaker 3: just you see a new plug in come out, You're like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, that's just dope.
Speaker 2: I gotta get that shit. You get it.
Speaker 1: What was the first ever software you were fucking around
Speaker 1: on music?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, I started off with hardware. Like my first drum
Speaker 3: machine was SP three h three. I just now got
Speaker 3: into like maybe a few years ago, was using use
Speaker 3: in the software. I never really fucked with that ship.
Speaker 3: But my first drum machine was an SP three or three.
Speaker 3: And then eventually I saved up some money and then
Speaker 3: that's when the MPC one thousand came out. I got that,
Speaker 3: and then I've been Yeah, so I've been making beats
Speaker 3: for a long time. I just haven't even I just
Speaker 3: never wrap over my beats.
Speaker 1: You ever use AI to make me?
Speaker 2: Yes, it's dope as fuck.
Speaker 3: When it first was coming around, and shit, I was
Speaker 3: hating on it, But what I realized is that if
Speaker 3: it does cut Like I love all the AI mixing software, yeah,
Speaker 3: because you know, you want to hate on it and
Speaker 3: ship like that, but it saves you so much fucking time, right,
Speaker 3: and you know, and could I mean, I'm not saying
Speaker 3: that it's not the end all, it's just getting you halfway.
Speaker 3: So if you know your ship. It's able to save
Speaker 3: you a lot of time where you can be creative
Speaker 3: and I have to worry about the actual fucking sound
Speaker 3: of the ship. So I definitely fuck with the the
Speaker 3: mixing software and.
Speaker 2: Ship like that. So I use that ship a lot.
Speaker 1: That's good. That's good that you're an optimist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what it is.
Speaker 3: I think the people that hating on the AI ship
Speaker 3: is that motherfuckers that ain't that dope anyway.
Speaker 2: Not everybody gonna be able to make a trap beat
Speaker 2: through AI, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But if if you really got some style and some
Speaker 3: some real talent with this shit, and you ain't worried
Speaker 3: about it, it is making your shit.
Speaker 1: Doper, right. That's the thing is like if if you're
Speaker 1: if you're really that worried that AI is going to
Speaker 1: take away away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so everybody be able to make a trap beat
Speaker 2: in the minute.
Speaker 1: So even with like trying to come up with ideas
Speaker 1: and stuff and write things, like you can just type
Speaker 1: a prompt and to chat GPT and it'll generate like
Speaker 1: vague ideas and then you can be creative and like
Speaker 1: go off of like vague ideas that.
Speaker 3: Are now that's the one thing I did hear about that.
Speaker 3: I'm not fucking with that. I heard motherfuckers is using
Speaker 3: a OU to write raps, Like you can write a
Speaker 3: line and it'll write to your next line for you. Like,
Speaker 3: now that's getting Now that's getting fucked up.
Speaker 1: You know, you know what, do you think one day
Speaker 1: somebody will just pop off really hard in the rap
Speaker 1: scene and then get exposed that they've been using a.
Speaker 3: I think it's already been happening on the low, like
Speaker 3: some of ty rappers is probably using AI already.
Speaker 2: I bet you could.
Speaker 1: That'd be sick of you. You could probably create a rapper
Speaker 1: out of AI. You could like fucking use AI to
Speaker 1: make a human face.
Speaker 2: He was trying, wasn't they? Then they shut that ship down?
Speaker 1: Who was trying?
Speaker 2: I think? I mean? Did it was one of the
Speaker 2: AI rapper that got a record deal?
Speaker 3: No, yeah, it was the whole thing I talked about it.
Speaker 3: I was hating on it for sure.
Speaker 1: If I wish, I'm I'm I know that. Oh this
Speaker 1: guy what is this guy's name?
Speaker 2: Him?
Speaker 1: F and Mecca, I'm so i'm this, I'm I'm so
Speaker 1: bad at uh, you know, all these fucking guys on
Speaker 1: their podcasts. They know how to like pull stuff up.
Speaker 1: I'm a terrible pull stuff up guy.
Speaker 2: He got canceled.
Speaker 1: Well he didn't. He never even existed, so he's still
Speaker 1: be fine. That good. Someone said, Danny as ice Spice
Speaker 1: is hious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a AI thing that was funny.
Speaker 1: What was it was?
Speaker 2: Somebody made a.
Speaker 3: AI of me on I Spice body, my head on
Speaker 3: Ice Spicy body, and you know me, I took it.
Speaker 3: It was hilarious to me, so I shared it. But
Speaker 3: it's just showing Oh do you want to watch it?
Speaker 1: Brown? Let's see. I don't know if I can. Oh,
Speaker 1: is it a video or is it like a Okay,
Speaker 1: all right here, I'll watch it and maybe we can
Speaker 1: put it in later. Danny Brown shares, this is a
Speaker 1: fucking article. No, isn't that so stupid? Is it?
Speaker 2: Slow day? For a lot of media they use this.
Speaker 1: I looked it up and I saw the complex, tweeted
Speaker 1: Brown tweeted Ice Spice generated deep fake video.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fuck, okay, this is so annoying that I google it
Speaker 1: and instead of you, and instead of you at first,
Speaker 1: it's showing me that all right, I'm gonna go to videos.
Speaker 1: Puppy yeah, I just want to look.
Speaker 2: Look how many articles who wrote about that.
Speaker 3: Who they could be using their time to like put
Speaker 3: on new artists and ship like that.
Speaker 1: This is their post that actually sounds really good, Brandon,
Speaker 1: I'll send you this to put in later.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I feel like a lot of media they
Speaker 3: could be spending that time like putting on the next
Speaker 3: Danny Brown instead of fucking posting.
Speaker 1: Ship like right, you know, right right, there's a guy dead, boy,
Speaker 1: guys who died. Okay, you want you want to talk
Speaker 1: to the guy who died for two minutes on his
Speaker 1: own vomit?
Speaker 2: This sounds a little dark.
Speaker 1: Hello, sounds like he died again? All right, No fucking way, Marco,
Speaker 1: what's up, man.
Speaker 13: There's no fucking way.
Speaker 5: I'm on call.
Speaker 13: First of all, I've seen here in the stream for
Speaker 13: like so long. I'm actually hyped.
Speaker 1: Thanks man, What's what's going on?
Speaker 13: How's life for being super excited by the Way to
Speaker 13: Breakfast or being super hyped? I have recently b BPD
Speaker 13: and ADHD. So if anyone in the chat is like,
Speaker 13: get a badger me over my story, just no, you know, compulsivity.
Speaker 13: It's really hard for me. But it was recently my
Speaker 13: second time at the bar, and I fucking died and
Speaker 13: she was crazy. It took me. It sounds stupid, but
Speaker 13: like after the fact, it was unrelated. I had a
Speaker 13: doctor's appointment, but I'm getting too out of myself, so
Speaker 13: I went to a bar in near my downtown area
Speaker 13: with one of my coworkers, and I just like it
Speaker 13: was like a bunch of awful decisions. Mind you, zero
Speaker 13: nothing in my belly at two medications on me, zero sleep,
Speaker 13: So it was just like a combination of asking to
Speaker 13: fuck around and find out but what's the call my friends?
Speaker 13: He wanted to like just show me out because I
Speaker 13: told him that I've never been to like a b
Speaker 13: I have. Like he was like, this was like my
Speaker 13: second adventure going out with him, and he's kind of
Speaker 13: like a wild card, Like he's kind of like a
Speaker 13: I don't know, shouldn't be really hanging out with him.
Speaker 13: But he was loaded me with like all sorts of
Speaker 13: cocktails and shit. And the only thing I remembered from
Speaker 13: the fact was what's it called? What was he wanted
Speaker 13: to smoke outside? I went outside with him and what's
Speaker 13: it called? Uh, Yeah, that's all I remember. Just woke
Speaker 13: up at the hospital.
Speaker 1: Did your friend drug?
Speaker 13: No, that was the thing that was so fucking funny.
Speaker 13: He was like the funniest part. So when I woke
Speaker 13: up in the hospital, I didn't remember anything other than
Speaker 13: him wanting to smoke outside. And so when I woke up,
Speaker 13: I was just panicked. I was fucking naked, and I
Speaker 13: saw in the corner beside me that there was a
Speaker 13: pile of my clothes, but I thought it was all clothes,
Speaker 13: And ironically, from the fact, was exact morning that day,
Speaker 13: and I bought these cool ass nifty car heart pants
Speaker 13: for my job. So I was just worn that they
Speaker 13: cut out my pants and my shirt. But I saw
Speaker 13: that my clothes in the corner, but they only cut
Speaker 13: up my shirt. But what's it called? I panic because
Speaker 13: I was like, oh, like, I've never been to the hospital.
Speaker 13: I had like a bunch of IVS on my body,
Speaker 13: and I called my mom and my siblings. Took him
Speaker 13: a little while to get there, and I feel like
Speaker 13: the nurse tried to like make me look like a
Speaker 13: fucking attic because I was kind of scared too. She
Speaker 13: my mom was like sitting beside and h NR like
Speaker 13: the red sterted nurse was like, oh, so your son
Speaker 13: has like multiple drugs in his body. And she starts
Speaker 13: listening off like the medications. She's ah, fuck, I could
Speaker 13: remember it was METS, which I got scared when she
Speaker 13: said METS, because I'm like, what the fuck? But that
Speaker 13: was my medication for my ADHD. Then it was benzo diazepine,
Speaker 13: which I stupidly thought that that was for the VPD,
Speaker 13: but that wasn't the case. And this will like coincide
Speaker 13: with the like a prior thing, but it was smith
Speaker 13: Benjo had diazepine another medication, and alcohol and weeds, and
Speaker 13: I already knew that. And I told the doctor like
Speaker 13: that all those medications are for like you know, and
Speaker 13: they trace back my medical information and everything came conclusive.
Speaker 13: It was only completely unrelated a week later where I
Speaker 13: had to do a following Uh what do you call it?
Speaker 13: It was from something unrelated, but it was for like
Speaker 13: psychiatric stuff for my BPD, and it was something like
Speaker 13: no one wants to see. Like the doctor looked at
Speaker 13: me like in awe, Like she was like just like,
Speaker 13: I don't know. It was a look that like will
Speaker 13: forever stay with my young twenty two year old soul.
Speaker 13: But she just looked at me with like such a
Speaker 13: weird but like bewilderment, and she's like, you shouldn't be here,
Speaker 13: And she was like reading out the notes and saying
Speaker 13: like that like it was only told like the mouth,
Speaker 13: because the doc, I think then have the soul to
Speaker 13: tell me it was only when my doctors like you
Speaker 13: shouldn't be here, like you legally died on like her
Speaker 13: way like the bend of diazepines. She was grilling me
Speaker 13: about that.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, what did you what was this shit that
Speaker 1: your friend did you smoked with your friends?
Speaker 13: No, well, here's the thing.
Speaker 10: Here's the thing.
Speaker 13: Here's the thing about like the funniest part. The doctor
Speaker 13: wasn't going to prescribe in my medication because she saw
Speaker 13: the bendo diazepine and I was like, oh, it wasn't
Speaker 13: that for my bipolar and she's like that's not for bipolar,
Speaker 13: Like that's for like and she was like listening off
Speaker 13: stuff like this is like usually what we get for
Speaker 13: people with like really bad anxiety. So she's like, you
Speaker 13: either were drugged, like your friend might have drugged you,
Speaker 13: or you were like date grape, or you're doing hardcore
Speaker 13: drugs like you're like abusing. And I was fucking scared.
Speaker 13: I was like, well, like there's two fears, like one
Speaker 13: that she thinks I'm like using drugs and like I'm
Speaker 13: a junkie, but there's nothing wrong, like you know. But
Speaker 13: another part was like obviously like I got big breaks,
Speaker 13: and I was like trying to think very hard. I'm like,
Speaker 13: did anyone spiked me? And she even said something even scarier.
Speaker 13: She's like, you can also be injected. But she's like,
Speaker 13: I highly doubt someone's not gonna go in a bar
Speaker 13: and like inject you with a s arrange fold with
Speaker 13: that shit. But it was only when she was doing
Speaker 13: like the research, the deeper research, and she's like, oh,
Speaker 13: they gave me the benzodiazepine while you're like intubated, like
Speaker 13: when you're like dying on like the ambulance. I was like, oh,
Speaker 13: that makes sense, so she passed that off. But yeah,
Speaker 13: it was just a mixture of me not sleeping, my
Speaker 13: medication and shit that caused me to happen. Had it
Speaker 13: not been for that, I would have been okay. But yeah,
Speaker 13: lessen to people don't mix and drink really stupid fucking shit. Yeah,
Speaker 13: like it only took to the doctor like that. She
Speaker 13: looked at me. She's like, you shouldn't be here, which
Speaker 13: is something like you don't want your fucking primary doctor
Speaker 13: to tell you it was a big fucking head trip.
Speaker 13: But yeah, that is my story of me fucking dying.
Speaker 13: It was kind of funny because I had like this,
Speaker 13: like I've always had this extensionism of like what's like
Speaker 13: the afterlife religion and all that jazz and having that happen,
Speaker 13: like it very much like I don't know any more grateful,
Speaker 13: like more PEPs in my step.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to ask you that because you
Speaker 3: seem a little too happy to be a mother that
Speaker 3: just died.
Speaker 1: I think you seem very like happy and excited to
Speaker 1: be telling this story.
Speaker 13: I both of y'all. And this is so funny too
Speaker 13: because I was watching to Kill Tony when you were
Speaker 13: on it. I love your music, Danny Brown, I love
Speaker 13: your everything, your streams and all that ship. I guess
Speaker 13: I was going, like, I guess Danny Brown's fucking crazy,
Speaker 13: because like I shouldn't have been drinking all that stupid
Speaker 13: ship like Eve when I tell people that, like I know,
Speaker 13: like I was an idiot, a fucking massive idiot regards
Speaker 13: if it was like my mental problems are just me
Speaker 13: being me, but like yeah, I could easily sucked around
Speaker 13: and found out that day it.
Speaker 3: Was you have a second chance at life now, like
Speaker 3: you know, everything almost just been opra with no that's
Speaker 3: what my that was.
Speaker 13: Like what was crazy? My document said that like you
Speaker 13: should very much like you know, be grateful that like
Speaker 13: you're here, like you really shouldn't like and that was
Speaker 13: like the scary part that like really made me, like
Speaker 13: it did dawn on me heavily, like this weird boloom
Speaker 13: of like depression afterwards because she's all like, I don't know.
Speaker 13: It really scared me that the doctor told me that
Speaker 13: that's when it fully realized. And like my mom even
Speaker 13: said like like don mask did it take you like
Speaker 13: a doctor like your second time around to tell you,
Speaker 13: because my mom was like when in it it happened.
Speaker 13: I just went about like still going with my friends,
Speaker 13: and my mom was like, you need a resp like
Speaker 13: it's serious. It was only until like my doctor sent
Speaker 13: me down, looked me dead in the eyes and was like, yeah,
Speaker 13: you shouldn't have been like here like file was in
Speaker 13: your stomach. It wasn't funny because I thought I didn't
Speaker 13: ate the whole day at work because I skipped the work.
Speaker 13: My friends like go on addition and go to the bar.
Speaker 13: I'm like, I'm fucking down.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so now that you have this like second
Speaker 1: chance of life and you're feeling like what do you
Speaker 1: what do you want to do? Man? What what do
Speaker 1: you what are you going to do with this new uhh?
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think I've always had it, but now even
Speaker 13: more like get sat with me of like really that
Speaker 13: like I don't want to say that corny as like
Speaker 13: full sent but like you really in life have to
Speaker 13: have that like you know, bravado to do shit like
Speaker 13: if no one like that's like I guess a good
Speaker 13: quote I was here podcasters people motivational speakers say it's
Speaker 13: really true, like you can only do so much for yourself,
Speaker 13: like no one like your mom a is going to
Speaker 13: be their daddy ain't gonna be there, your friends are
Speaker 13: gonna be there, like you can only put your best
Speaker 13: so forward. I feel like it's taught me now more
Speaker 13: than ever to be grateful, not really do really impulsive
Speaker 13: stupid shit. But yeah, more and more I guess grateful
Speaker 13: and just like just do shit, like at least it's
Speaker 13: better to know than to not know at all, like
Speaker 13: just shit, Like it's okay to be anxious with anything
Speaker 13: in life, like a new job, speaking to a group
Speaker 13: full of thousands of sucking people or a crowd. It
Speaker 13: gets normal, Like no one ever does that, I feel
Speaker 13: like have I guess a subtle sense of anxiety is normal,
Speaker 13: like to an extent, you know that's really hard to control.
Speaker 13: But yeah, just that as well as it helped me
Speaker 13: that situation too a little bit with my job up
Speaker 13: currently as well as my prior Joe, because I worked
Speaker 13: at a I don't want to fully like it was
Speaker 13: a what do you?
Speaker 2: What do you? What do you?
Speaker 1: What do you do now?
Speaker 13: I want to say, but like I'm not checking the
Speaker 13: stream right now or anything. I don't give a fuck
Speaker 13: what people said. But it's kind of I guess it's
Speaker 13: very pacific Northwest Washington, I'll say that, but it's very mechanical.
Speaker 13: I guess. No, actually no. I did a class and
Speaker 13: they did a cool OSHA thing and this is like,
Speaker 13: I guess other cool sho I could talk about.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 13: I did a class for high school, which is like
Speaker 13: a college thing, and one of the classes I did
Speaker 13: was aerospace and they did like an ocean thing. And
Speaker 13: they basically were talking about like incidents in general for
Speaker 13: all jobs, and here in Pacific Northwest is a lot
Speaker 13: of like blue college lumberjack job. It's just like this
Speaker 13: fucked a video of a lumberjack and like his fingers missing,
Speaker 13: like some incident happens. Yeah, it's like I don't know,
Speaker 13: that's another I guess with Like the incident happened made
Speaker 13: me way way I was already way more grateful and
Speaker 13: left because I watched pretty graphic content that like they
Speaker 13: see humble to like, I guess, drive safe, like look
Speaker 13: both ways, like be very safe in my job, but like, yeah,
Speaker 13: my current job, Like I don't know, there's way more
Speaker 13: ways to get hurt. I worked at prior to this,
Speaker 13: it was like four years of CNC and press break
Speaker 13: and that witnessed like multiple people getting their fingers like
Speaker 13: blown out. That was really like traumatic for me.
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, crazy job. Crazy fucked up internet videos
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite topics. It does well because
Speaker 1: it does do that. It does do that for you,
Speaker 1: right because you see all these car accidents and lumberjacks
Speaker 1: getting their fingers cut off, and it makes you feel like, well,
Speaker 1: all right, life is. It's actually pretty good if you're
Speaker 1: not the people in these videos, but so.
Speaker 13: Crazy that like all those like I guess crazy shock videos.
Speaker 13: It's funny whether wherever it comes from, Like there's like
Speaker 13: it's been going on since the nineties, like all the
Speaker 13: shock pages. But it's so interesting. It's seeing the comments
Speaker 13: of people what they say, and some people like there's
Speaker 13: usually like poles of like, oh, why do you guys
Speaker 13: watch this? Like there's always like that, like you know,
Speaker 13: like just a comment and people usually say that, and
Speaker 13: I can heavily understand that, like it could very much
Speaker 13: help certain people as well as like interiorate your mindset.
Speaker 13: Like it's not for everyone. It's not some shit you
Speaker 13: should seek out, but like when you watch that type
Speaker 13: of shit, it's like, damn, it really makes you. Like
Speaker 13: from my SENC and pressprict machine, it made me very
Speaker 13: very like safe. I guess that was like the reason
Speaker 13: why I was so safe on that job. Then continue
Speaker 13: on with the job that I have currently.
Speaker 1: Danny, you ever watched that? I know that on your
Speaker 1: mom's house, they watch a lot of videos.
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially in the early stages moved Internet, like the
Speaker 3: whole Rotten dot Com and all that kind of shit,
Speaker 3: but not too much now, you know. Now I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to see no shit like that I used to
Speaker 3: be into, like you know, the ice is behaving videos
Speaker 3: and all that kind of shit. I think now I
Speaker 3: do every now watch some fucking narco shit in Mexico
Speaker 3: and they tortured, But that's not something that I seek out.
Speaker 1: It's so I don't know why I've managed to get
Speaker 1: into either every fucking podcast I managed to get into
Speaker 1: a conversation with someone. Well, shit, Danny, do you have
Speaker 1: any thoughts on anything?
Speaker 13: I would say, Man, I'm just so happy right now
Speaker 13: that I got in call with both of y'all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just say, Bro, you be lucky.
Speaker 3: You're really lucky, man, Like at twenty two years old,
Speaker 3: that's still young man. You're still a kid pretty much,
Speaker 3: and you got so much more life to live. And
Speaker 3: like you said, just some impulsive decision like that can
Speaker 3: fucking just end it all. You got to think about
Speaker 3: your mom and your family ship like that. And you know,
Speaker 3: as me as a person used to drink a lot
Speaker 3: and all type of shit and get myself in all
Speaker 3: types of trouble, that could have ended it all. It's
Speaker 3: like it's not worth it at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: So I would just.
Speaker 13: Say that I need to hear from someone you should really.
Speaker 3: Feel blessed, man, you should really feel blessed and to
Speaker 3: be able to see another because it's not promised, you know,
Speaker 3: and just for you to go through something like that
Speaker 3: obviously mean you got a lot more life to live
Speaker 3: and you just put out here for a reason, you know.
Speaker 2: So I would just.
Speaker 13: Say, man, you need to just.
Speaker 3: Take it a lot more serious, because it seems like
Speaker 3: you had a lot of fun dying to me.
Speaker 1: No, No, it was your marker. You're living life a
Speaker 1: mile of a fucking minute, man, I can I can
Speaker 1: tell which is a fun thing sometimes.
Speaker 13: No, I wouldn't. I would never think that's funny. I
Speaker 13: never had like a moment of like it's drinking and
Speaker 13: my teenagers, like I know, I realized, like I guess
Speaker 13: in American society or just like people like drinking, I'm way, way,
Speaker 13: way way more over a smoker. So I don't know.
Speaker 13: It was very stupid decisions that day, obviously, and heavily
Speaker 13: heavily on what like Danny said, like really real ship,
Speaker 13: like my life easily could have been cut short or
Speaker 13: some stupid tripis ship that goes for I guess, like
Speaker 13: I can tell that to anyone that goes for everything,
Speaker 13: Like I guess even with like mental issues or like
Speaker 13: anger issues, like you could easily lose your whole life
Speaker 13: over something really trivial stupid argument.
Speaker 1: Yeah, emotional, So you did in the heat and the moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, mm hmm, Marco. And you got an effection,
Speaker 1: you got an infectious energy. Marco. I'm I'm I'm happy
Speaker 1: for you. I'm happy that you're not dead so you
Speaker 1: can go live a beautiful doing exciting fun things. True.
Speaker 13: True, the Pacific Northwest Washington is pretty.
Speaker 2: Lovely, Marc.
Speaker 1: Is there any other like before we move on? Is
Speaker 1: there anything else you wanna you want to say or
Speaker 1: anything like that?
Speaker 10: Anything?
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's pretty much all I had to get off
Speaker 13: of my chest. Are any other details or any like,
Speaker 13: I don't know. That's pretty much all I have to
Speaker 13: say about the incident.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, I'm gonna pray for you.
Speaker 13: This is the funniest this, this is the funny Well,
Speaker 13: I don't know if I should say this or not
Speaker 13: doing like the thing because this is like, uh, the
Speaker 13: thing I kind of mentioned in the chat, but like
Speaker 13: this is weird and funny because Okay, for both of you,
Speaker 13: have you guys ever been to the doctor like hospital
Speaker 13: like emergency emergency ship?
Speaker 1: You're asking us if we've ever been to the like
Speaker 1: to the hospital like for an emergency. Yeah, we've been
Speaker 1: to the hospital.
Speaker 2: I've ever gotten the ID they put that in the penis?
Speaker 2: Did you have a.
Speaker 13: Jesus no, that's the thing. I fucking woke up and
Speaker 13: I was fucking takon and I was like, where the
Speaker 13: fuck is my clothes? I've seen the corner and I
Speaker 13: thought like my shirt was there because it was like
Speaker 13: all black fit.
Speaker 4: It was these cool.
Speaker 13: Black Doublene car heart pants and the black shirt. Got
Speaker 13: to really give a fuck that they cut my shirt up.
Speaker 13: But when I saw like I was like naked from
Speaker 13: like everything, but like they had uh this like weird
Speaker 13: like he had like a handle like a bottle like
Speaker 13: you just I just picked my winging in. But like
Speaker 13: it was only after the fact that like when I
Speaker 13: went home. This sounds so fucking disgusting in team my
Speaker 13: but like blood came out and I fucking panicked. Like
Speaker 13: five seconds I was about to like google and put
Speaker 13: myself in like a oh shit, I got fucking fall
Speaker 13: cancer some shit. But no, I realized that they fucking
Speaker 13: like just shove that shit in me while I was
Speaker 13: in the car and didn't like removed it out. And
Speaker 13: what I didn't know is that they're supposed to give
Speaker 13: you like numbing cream, I guess, And he didn't give
Speaker 13: me none of that ship. So I had like this weird,
Speaker 13: uncomfortable fucking team for like a week after that, so
Speaker 13: very much time my lesson not to drink like a
Speaker 13: fucking idiot, never get in the fucking hospital. That was uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I hope I hope that the I hope the graphic
Speaker 1: image of your bloody penis inspires many of the people
Speaker 1: listening to in their lives.
Speaker 13: Yeah, drink fucking safely and responsibly, and yeah, have fucking
Speaker 13: friends that all like And you know, it was worse.
Speaker 2: I was like five.
Speaker 13: Minutes passed out, and it took him that fucking lung
Speaker 13: to realize that I wasn't around there until he thought
Speaker 13: like mind conscious, fucking body just like limp, like family
Speaker 13: guy positioned.
Speaker 1: Well, I have a good night, Marco, and I wish
Speaker 1: you and your penis a long safe for coming. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's short, safe.
Speaker 13: Keep doing what you do.
Speaker 1: Thanks By.
Speaker 2: That's fucking scary, man. Yeah. Yeah, he sounds like he's
Speaker 2: doing that right with it.
Speaker 1: He does so, he sounded. He sounded psyched.
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about he.
Speaker 3: Got a new leash on life or something, you know.
Speaker 3: But I think when you that agent and you don't
Speaker 3: really understand how serious something like that could be, maybe
Speaker 3: you know because me, I've been getting sucked up as
Speaker 3: long as he's been living, and I've never been through
Speaker 3: a scare like that really.
Speaker 1: You know, you even had a time where you were like,
Speaker 1: We're like, oh fuck, I almost died.
Speaker 3: I mean I probably was. I just didn't know it.
Speaker 3: I would just you know, I'm pretty sure I've been
Speaker 3: glaying in a bed a few times like oh no,
Speaker 3: this might be in but but never like having to
Speaker 3: go to the hospital or getting something like that.
Speaker 2: I'd never been through anything like that.
Speaker 3: So but if I did, I think that would be
Speaker 3: enough of a scare for me to you.
Speaker 2: Know, be like fuck this shit. You know I ain't,
Speaker 2: I ain't doing it.
Speaker 3: But I guess I felt like I was getting close
Speaker 3: to something like that happening. It's a few you know,
Speaker 3: close calls where you just be like, man, I don't
Speaker 3: know how I woke up today type shit like being
Speaker 3: blacked out drunk is like the worst shit ever, man,
Speaker 3: to be.
Speaker 1: Honest, I feel like, but yeah, I feel like Marco, uh,
Speaker 1: he's got he's got a positive energy to everyone we've
Speaker 1: talked to.
Speaker 3: But maybe if you died you would feel like you
Speaker 3: get know what I'm saying, and you're still here, you
Speaker 3: probably would be that excited about living life again.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's almost like when you go skydiving or some shit, like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, I'm happy, you know.
Speaker 2: So maybe that's what it is too. You know.
Speaker 1: Isn't that cool that I always think about you can
Speaker 1: always that's something excessed. You don't have to You don't
Speaker 1: have to almost die to access that, like every day
Speaker 1: if you really want to, you can operate from that
Speaker 1: perspective of oh, it's just it's cool to be alive and.
Speaker 2: Enjoy your life.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that's that's a big deal for a lot
Speaker 2: of people.
Speaker 3: Man, we take this ship for granted, you know, and
Speaker 3: I realize that it's just a blessing just to fucking
Speaker 3: wake up. You're not fucking promised tomorrow, man, So just
Speaker 3: us being here, man, that's just good enough.
Speaker 1: I think every everyone we talked to today, except for
Speaker 1: the Roadblocks girl. No, no, not even though to the
Speaker 1: robox girl. Everyone we've talked to you today, I'm not
Speaker 1: worried about. Everyone seem like they're doing all right.
Speaker 3: I had a positive energy to him. Yeah, you know, so, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's put the most part. I mean, the guy dying though,
Speaker 3: that was a little dark.
Speaker 6: For me.
Speaker 1: On paper, it's dark, but he seems I mean no,
Speaker 1: I mean like it's one of the best things ever
Speaker 1: happened to her about it.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's just his adderall.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, his ADAHD medication got him going
Speaker 3: crazy like that. But yeah, when you're on medications and
Speaker 3: ship like that, man, you can't drink. Like he has
Speaker 3: to realize that, Like that's just out of the that's
Speaker 3: just out of the question, man, Like drinking and medication
Speaker 3: just like you know, doing fucking prescriptions and ship. That's
Speaker 3: like the worst shit ever, you know, that's almost worse
Speaker 3: than fucking getting street drugs and some ship, which is
Speaker 3: crazy fucking alcohol and fucking pharmaceuticals.
Speaker 2: Man. Took a lot of motherfuckers out, man for real m. M.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm worried about, you know, like where he
Speaker 3: just did take it that serious and he like, fuck it, man,
Speaker 3: that shit was kind of dope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I care more about them.
Speaker 2: Carhart double knees and he cared about dying.
Speaker 1: Are you are you into any of the like skydiving,
Speaker 1: extreme sports.
Speaker 3: I would like to go skydiving, but I'm not seeking
Speaker 3: it out. I'm not like trying to figure out how
Speaker 3: to do it. But if it ever came across my
Speaker 3: ship in life and it's like, all right, fuck it,
Speaker 3: I'm down.
Speaker 1: See no, you see they whoever said that in the
Speaker 1: chat is is he might get addicted to the thrill
Speaker 1: of almost.
Speaker 3: Like that adrenaline rush, like you know, yeah, but I
Speaker 3: don't know, man, hopefully man, like you said the catheter
Speaker 3: and the dick thing, man, And I don't know, Like
Speaker 3: I said, he's still young, so maybe he's not taking
Speaker 3: it as serious as somewhat my age would. But na, man,
Speaker 3: like fucking passing out drunk and all that shit is
Speaker 3: fucked up.
Speaker 12: Man.
Speaker 2: That was the one thing I was really worried about.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: It's like something like that happening to me, man, And.
Speaker 3: Especially now with like all this fucking fentanyl and all
Speaker 3: this fucked up ship, like you can just one night
Speaker 3: of having fun can just turn dark, you know.
Speaker 1: So did you did you have you know, a share
Speaker 1: of nights where you woke up like like to the
Speaker 1: point where you like you don't remember all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a lot where I'll be like, man,
Speaker 3: people telling me shit that I did, and I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 3: you know, it's just it's fucked up, man, it is.
Speaker 3: It's really when you when you're on that where you know,
Speaker 3: I guess you know, when you're young and you know
Speaker 3: something like that happened every blue moon, but when it's
Speaker 3: like fucking every other day, like you need help, bro,
Speaker 3: you need to have an intervention and someone needs to
Speaker 3: sit you down really, And so I was just I mean,
Speaker 3: I guess you know, it takes you know, you have
Speaker 3: to go through certain ship to get to certain ship.
Speaker 3: So I guess if I never been through anything like that,
Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't have went and got help. So I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm happy for everything that I've been through to be
Speaker 3: able to go get help because I was I was
Speaker 3: the type of motherfucker that talked shit.
Speaker 2: About going to get treatment and rehab.
Speaker 1: Really what was your what was your opinion on it?
Speaker 3: Like you want to quit doing something? Just quit like motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Yeah you feel like it's a problem. You could, but
Speaker 3: it ain't that easy for a lot of people. Man,
Speaker 3: Like a lot of people don't even know like why
Speaker 3: they getting fucked up. You know, it could start off
Speaker 3: as being fun and for you know it, man, it's
Speaker 3: just using it to fucking mash your emotions.
Speaker 1: And then did you have did you have to go
Speaker 1: through like several hypotheses as to why you were getting
Speaker 1: sucked up before you found the true one?
Speaker 3: I mean I kind of knew in some sense, you know,
Speaker 3: and it I never was a drinker like that. My
Speaker 3: drinking actually started from touring. Like I would drink, you know,
Speaker 3: I was more of a fuck with weed or you
Speaker 3: know other shit. But drinking for me, it started off
Speaker 3: as just me being on tour and you know, having
Speaker 3: to drink before I go on stage and maybe having
Speaker 3: another drink to power down after I get off stage.
Speaker 3: Then before I know it, you know, after years of
Speaker 3: doing that, then I'm finding myself drinking at home.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you get to the plane, I'm just drinking
Speaker 2: every day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's when it's like when you have a thing
Speaker 1: where like you have some like clear boundaries with it,
Speaker 1: and then you kind of start to encroach on the
Speaker 1: boundaries a little bit and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're out of control.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you don't I didn't know I was a
Speaker 3: fucking alcoholic to just you know, you just come to
Speaker 3: the realization, like, you know, you had that talk with yourself.
Speaker 1: Like are you are you off of weed now?
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I didn't have any intentions on stopping to smoke weed
Speaker 3: when I went to treatment. It was just to get
Speaker 3: off alcohol. But I learned so much about myself during
Speaker 3: that process and just everything, and I told myself I
Speaker 3: was going to like I'm one't going to stop smoking.
Speaker 3: But then when I got home, you know, start doing
Speaker 3: therapy and shit, and just you know, it could be
Speaker 3: a gateway. Yeah for me, not saying for everybody, you know,
Speaker 3: but it could. You know, it does alter your thinking
Speaker 3: in some sense. And I can totally see myself having
Speaker 3: a great time, too much fun smoking. We get high,
Speaker 3: might be at some cool party or something, somebody offer
Speaker 3: me a drinking in my fucking high mind.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, not that bad, right, right, I've been clean
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 3: Gonna drink tomorrow and drinking well, I know what, I'm
Speaker 3: back on the fucking Farris Wheels.
Speaker 1: Right right, right right. It's hard because I'm and I've
Speaker 1: talked about this on here before, but like there's so
Speaker 1: many models of stoners that are like successful, Like when
Speaker 1: Seth Rogen gets on and he's like, yeah, I'm a
Speaker 1: multi million dollar you know. I do everything I do
Speaker 1: is while I'm stones And I see that, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh fuck, I wish I could do that. I wish
Speaker 1: I could be one of those. Like in high school
Speaker 1: there were there were these kids who would get super
Speaker 1: stoned and then do their homework like I could. I
Speaker 1: always wish I could be that kind of have that
Speaker 1: productive balance.
Speaker 2: But don't get me wrong, I love weed like I
Speaker 2: still miss it.
Speaker 3: I probably think about smoking every day, just make a
Speaker 3: conscious decision not to, and I find out that. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's not like fucking rocket science. I'm way more productive
Speaker 3: without it, you know what I'm saying. Like when I
Speaker 3: used to sit around, like when I first got out
Speaker 3: of rehab and ship, it was I couldn't sleep for ship,
Speaker 3: like it was I was sleeping good in there. But
Speaker 3: when I got home, it was like, like, what did I.
Speaker 2: Used to fucking do with all this time? Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: like I'm bored.
Speaker 3: And I realized that I was just using weed for anything,
Speaker 3: like I'm nothing to do smoke weed and smoke you know,
Speaker 3: so even like playing video games. It took a long
Speaker 3: time for me to even start back enjoying video games
Speaker 3: because I was so used to doing it while smoking weed.
Speaker 1: You know, do you do?
Speaker 2: You do?
Speaker 1: You have like a like do the whole sponsor thing.
Speaker 3: I did in the beginning, but then after a while,
Speaker 3: it's just I started to feel like just that whole
Speaker 3: shit felt a little cultish to me, like going to
Speaker 3: meetings and ship Sure, so I know a lot of
Speaker 3: people are like, oh, you know, you got it, but
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, everybody's kind of different.
Speaker 2: But no, for me, for the most part, I.
Speaker 3: Did a couple like online shit, But the thing that
Speaker 3: resonated with me the most was like doing like the
Speaker 3: dharma shit, which is like going like meditation classes and shit.
Speaker 3: I like that the most, and like smart recovery. But
Speaker 3: for the most part, I mean when I went on tour,
Speaker 3: a lot of that shit fell off, Like I haven't
Speaker 3: been in therapy none of that shit since something.
Speaker 1: So when you're on a tour like that and you're
Speaker 1: traveling every day, it's hard to keep a routine. It's
Speaker 1: like almost impossible.
Speaker 2: But I'm not over confident in it. Any day. I
Speaker 2: know I can fuck up.
Speaker 3: So the best thing for me to do is just,
Speaker 3: you know, as dumb as it sign clanchicun, just take
Speaker 3: one day at the time, man, and I just you know,
Speaker 3: keep myself busy.
Speaker 1: Are you a religious guy at all?
Speaker 2: I know that. I mean I have been. I mean
Speaker 2: I'm being there.
Speaker 3: That was like one of the one things that kind
Speaker 3: of made me feel good and shit, like was going
Speaker 3: to the church and they had like a spiritual advisor
Speaker 3: and I'll go see this siritual advisor. And every time
Speaker 3: I would do that shit, I would just feel good
Speaker 3: for some reason, like no matter, you know, I know
Speaker 3: I'm at the fucking bottom to being fucking rehabited and
Speaker 3: just feel like a fucking failure. But every time I
Speaker 3: would like go to the church or like go see
Speaker 3: the spiritual advisor and should always left feeling good and shit.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it definitely did give me like a spiritual
Speaker 3: awakening kind of thing.
Speaker 1: When when you were when you were you raised religious
Speaker 1: at all?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just go to church every fucking Sunday. I
Speaker 2: hated that ship though.
Speaker 1: There's almost a weird like, uh that when you're an adult,
Speaker 1: if you when you're because as a kid, it sucks
Speaker 1: because you're getting dragged, but when you're an adult, if
Speaker 1: you make the decision to go, it can almost be
Speaker 1: a little bit better.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I live right across street from the church,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, I'm gonna start going to
Speaker 3: church and shoo. But I was still I'm like that shit,
Speaker 3: I deal with it on my own terms, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to a U.
Speaker 1: I went to Overeaters Anonymous once I've been back since
Speaker 1: I should go. It was cool, but uh, like people
Speaker 1: would talk about like God is. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've been to like the AA meanings, but like God is,
Speaker 1: like it's it's it's it's in the background. Like when
Speaker 1: people talk, they'll talk about like the higher power instead.
Speaker 1: And I remember like people would would tell their stories
Speaker 1: and they would mention a higher power and like I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I just subbed in my own interpretation of what that meant,
Speaker 1: which wasn't necessarily always like uh, you know, a god
Speaker 1: like a dude, but you know, could just be the
Speaker 1: higher power of of I don't know, man, Like, uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can sell, you can sub in your own.
Speaker 3: What I was saying, Like, that's the whole faith thing,
Speaker 3: just believing in something it.
Speaker 2: Could be fucking could.
Speaker 3: Just believe it in because you know. But yeah, man,
Speaker 3: that that that helped me a lot, to be honest.
Speaker 3: I mean when I was in jail, and that's what
Speaker 3: fucking helped me a lot, believe in something that shit
Speaker 3: was gonna be better when I got out, and having
Speaker 3: some kind of faith. Once you lose faith and you
Speaker 3: don't care about you, that's when you know, that's when
Speaker 3: that's probably why I was using so many fucking drugs
Speaker 3: and drinking so much because I didn't you know, just didn't.
Speaker 2: Care no more. Man.
Speaker 1: What gives you faith? Now?
Speaker 3: Helping others, Just being able to share my story with
Speaker 3: everybody else and letting them know, man that you know,
Speaker 3: no matter what you're going through, man, somebody like me,
Speaker 3: you know, being an example for them now you know
Speaker 3: I went through that ship. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Just showing them that you can still make it out
Speaker 3: that ship.
Speaker 2: Don't give up. So yeah, that's my whole journey.
Speaker 11: Now.
Speaker 3: I just want to help no man where this through
Speaker 3: my music or just meeting people and talking to them.
Speaker 3: You know, you can change somebody life with one conversation
Speaker 3: type shit, you know. So just being in that position
Speaker 3: to be able to you know, to have that voice,
Speaker 3: you know, and just to talk to people.
Speaker 2: Man. So yeah, I feel like I got my new
Speaker 2: leash on life with that, and.
Speaker 1: It makes you it makes you feel good to do that.
Speaker 2: It keeps me on a straight and narrow you know.
Speaker 1: One of the things I like about doing this this
Speaker 1: show is like like I feel like, uh, it's a
Speaker 1: fun Like I get out of my own because every day,
Speaker 1: every day I'm like wrestling in my own overthinking shit
Speaker 1: you were talking Earli about just like overthinking my own
Speaker 1: fucking life and all my own problems and shit. And
Speaker 1: it's fun to get out of that and like talk
Speaker 1: to somebody else about whatever's going on with them. You know,
Speaker 1: it gives you perspective on your own life, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, and you know, just being able to have
Speaker 3: that voice, like I said, and like you know sometimes
Speaker 3: you you know, like I say, we just normal motherfuckers,
Speaker 3: just like everybody else too. But you never know that
Speaker 3: one person that reached out to you and said something
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 2: How much you know like.
Speaker 3: People calling in and just them being able to come
Speaker 3: in it fucking makes their day. Fucking changes shit, you know.
Speaker 3: So you helping motherfuckers too at.
Speaker 2: The end of I hope, So man, I hope. So
Speaker 2: that's what this show is based on. This ship sometimes.
Speaker 1: You're going to do one final one before we go. Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: let me ask first chat. Do you have any questions
Speaker 1: or or stuff for Danny that you wanna talk about.
Speaker 1: Can Danny confirm if he was or was not wearing
Speaker 1: trip pants? What does that mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, they weren't actually tripped. They were actually a designer
Speaker 3: out of Houston, Texas. He made those and they do
Speaker 3: look like trips, but they're not trips.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 1: Do you remember playing middle Lands Festival Middlelands?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I probably was blacked out drunk. Where's Middlelands? I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't remember.
Speaker 1: No, Danny, how was getting put into GTA five? You
Speaker 1: were in GTA five. Yeah, that's sick.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 11: Man.
Speaker 3: I love all the guys at Rockstar and they always
Speaker 3: reach out to me to do stuff. Still had a
Speaker 3: relationship with them, so but yeah, man, it was you know,
Speaker 3: it was great.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's one of those things where I can't believe I
Speaker 3: did that shit, and it makes it hard for me
Speaker 3: to play the fucking game.
Speaker 2: I never even had finished because you're afraid of hearing
Speaker 2: your own voice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the first fucking song you hear, and then
Speaker 3: they I did my own downloadable content. I had my
Speaker 3: own shit. So it's just hard for me to now.
Speaker 3: I can't It's like I'm too close to it. I
Speaker 3: can't even really enjoy it right right, Yeah, but it
Speaker 3: was a lot of work though. They actually kne to Detroit,
Speaker 3: fucking you know. We recorded for fucking months doing that shit.
Speaker 11: Man.
Speaker 2: So but it was fun, man shot talk to the
Speaker 2: homies that rock Star.
Speaker 1: Did you see that GT six got leaked?
Speaker 3: I've seen something about it, but I don't really know
Speaker 3: too much.
Speaker 1: There was like a sixteen year old kid who like
Speaker 1: hacked in the rock Star and he got thrown in jail.
Speaker 1: But I was thinking about it, he's probably like the
Speaker 1: coolest kid in jail, Like, that's gotta be the best
Speaker 1: thing to be thrown into juvenile Hall for is leaking
Speaker 1: GTA six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but jail fucking sucks. I fuck that shit.
Speaker 1: H Danny, Are you ever gonna hop back on Final
Speaker 1: Fantasy fourteen?
Speaker 3: That's the new one? Are just the one that just
Speaker 3: came out? Oh you're talking about online?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Nah?
Speaker 1: They said they someone said they played with you when
Speaker 1: you started heavy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I kind of.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was super into it, but I kind of got
Speaker 3: out of it. No, I don't know, man, I just it's.
Speaker 2: A little clique. Yeah, a little clique as you're in
Speaker 2: that motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Man, it's almost like the VR motherfuckers that just sit
Speaker 3: in the mirror and won't talk to you.
Speaker 1: Someon wants to know what your very first job was.
Speaker 3: My very first job was. I worked at a Sweeten House,
Speaker 3: which is a buffet. I actually allowed on my job
Speaker 3: application because you're supposed to be sixteen to work in
Speaker 3: Michigan and I was only fourteen, so illed on my
Speaker 3: job application and forged my work permit and I worked.
Speaker 2: There until I was sixteen.
Speaker 3: I was a potwasher making four to fifty an hour,
Speaker 3: so they knew I was too young. It was slave
Speaker 3: laboring me, and once I was old enough to get
Speaker 3: a job, I quit and started selling wheat. I worked
Speaker 3: at an old country buffet too. I was just working
Speaker 3: at buffets and shit. As a kid, I worked at
Speaker 3: a burger king, but I was really just selling weed.
Speaker 3: Everybody there, you ever.
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you a buffet fan? Personally?
Speaker 3: Now it's nasty to me because I know we used
Speaker 3: to be doing back there, so I'm like, fuck, but
Speaker 3: uh no, I can't say I haven't been to a
Speaker 3: buffet in over ten years.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: There was a Chinese buffet near my school called the
Speaker 1: Habachi Grill, and all the food was stale, but I
Speaker 1: loved it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, as you're a teenager, you younger, like, you know,
Speaker 3: buffets and shit, they cool and shit. But once you
Speaker 3: get like a certain age, I feel like that's just disgusting.
Speaker 2: Man. Like now I can't even think about going to
Speaker 2: a buffet.
Speaker 1: All right, let me, I'll read off a few options.
Speaker 1: You tell me what sounds interesting to you. Zach eighteen
Speaker 1: wants to discuss the complicated relationship he has with his mom,
Speaker 1: who stole some money from him. We have Joshua thirty four.
Speaker 1: It feels like he reached a third life crisis. We
Speaker 1: had of Sam thirty one, one of her exes and
Speaker 1: one of her friends wants to have a threesome with her.
Speaker 1: She does not know what to do about that. Hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: what's up? Sam?
Speaker 11: Yo?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 9: I'm a girl, by the way, but I'm okay with
Speaker 9: you saying that.
Speaker 1: All right, Sam, I see the blue screen in the
Speaker 1: background is slowly peeling off, so we we should make
Speaker 1: this quick. Yeah, I'm mainly kidding up. What's going on? Sam?
Speaker 1: How's life?
Speaker 9: Uh, it's all right, It's all right, I guess Yeah,
Speaker 9: I just had some advice or not if I didn't
Speaker 9: have it back, I'm asking for advice, I should say.
Speaker 9: It's the two ladies involved in this, this predicament. One
Speaker 9: of them is an X and the other one. They
Speaker 9: were not particularly they how do I how do I
Speaker 9: even say this? They were like enemies, they were like
Speaker 9: not close friends at all. At a certain point they
Speaker 9: really did not like each other. Okay, yeah, they hated
Speaker 9: each other, and now they're like cool again. And in
Speaker 9: the past few weeks, not all three of us together
Speaker 9: but separately, like this idea has just sort of come
Speaker 9: about and it's I just I'm not sure if it's
Speaker 9: a decent Uh, it might be a good idea.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I'm just I'm asking for a third opinion space or
Speaker 9: a fourth opinion.
Speaker 3: I guess technically, I guess if you thinking about it,
Speaker 3: that must mean you can't handle it.
Speaker 2: So you probably shouldn't do that, man, because the threesome
Speaker 2: is very hard.
Speaker 13: Man.
Speaker 3: You think it's hard enough pleasing one woman, imagine pleasing two.
Speaker 3: So I would say you probably don't want to put
Speaker 3: yourself to that type of situation if you don't think.
Speaker 1: You can handle it, Why don't you think, Sam, Why
Speaker 1: don't you think you can handle it? Though? Why do
Speaker 1: you have a lack of confidence in your abilities?
Speaker 2: I say, just do it for a story.
Speaker 9: Weirdly, that's not weirdly. The confidence of my ability is
Speaker 9: not the issue. It's more of like the weird the
Speaker 9: potential weirdness for the future.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't be weird, y'all, just to be doing it
Speaker 3: all the time now, it's going to be more weird
Speaker 3: if you turn it down.
Speaker 9: That's that's fair. That's fair. Yeah, Okay, I gotta say
Speaker 9: I love your last Daddy, thank you. It's every every time,
Speaker 9: every time I hear it, it makes me so happy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, y'all.
Speaker 9: Y'all make really good points that it's just, you know,
Speaker 9: the thing that's being talked about. Maybe it's just something
Speaker 9: that should that should happen, because you know, it's not
Speaker 9: like I don't know and it maybe if it happens
Speaker 9: and then it's weird whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just something you've been wanting to do for
Speaker 1: a while. It sounds like we hit the nerve of
Speaker 1: some kind.
Speaker 9: I don't really know how to answer that, to be
Speaker 9: quite honest, if you don't.
Speaker 1: Know how to answer that, it kind of sounds like
Speaker 1: the answer is yes, you know, I.
Speaker 9: Hadn't thought about. You know, it's one of those things.
Speaker 9: I feel like a lot of people, you know, this
Speaker 9: is not a situation that comes up in most of
Speaker 9: their lives, so as far as like the reality of
Speaker 9: the situation, like it's only something in the past, like
Speaker 9: a couple of past few weeks that's been like, oh wow,
Speaker 9: that could be a thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, we can't tell you what to do necessarily,
Speaker 1: but you I think when Danny and you were like,
Speaker 1: if you're asking, it sounds like the answer is it
Speaker 1: sounds like something you're You're that that's a good point.
Speaker 1: You're curious and excited about so I don't know, man.
Speaker 3: I think you're just trying to brag dust that you go.
Speaker 3: You're like you all motherfucker's sitting around with Gecko paint
Speaker 3: on when I got two bitches ready.
Speaker 9: It is not lined up. That hasn't been clear. It's
Speaker 9: not lined up, and for that I apologize.
Speaker 13: Not lined up.
Speaker 1: Well, Samya, it worked. I think I'm jealous of you,
Speaker 1: and I think that your life sounds really cool, and
Speaker 1: I think that if you don't feel that way, you
Speaker 1: should start feeling that way.
Speaker 2: You got bitches, God damn it. Who are you with?
Speaker 1: By the way, who are you? Who's this person giggling
Speaker 1: in the background.
Speaker 5: Oh it's I'm one of the girls. I'm Christina.
Speaker 2: Oh you're wait, you already got one of the girls
Speaker 2: with you? That's always he was stunning on.
Speaker 15: Yeah, No, like we yeah, I mean like we didn't
Speaker 15: have expect and maybe I don't know, thinking about involving Emily.
Speaker 13: I don't like.
Speaker 15: She off handedly minted it might be okay, but she's like,
Speaker 15: I don't know, that would be weird because they dated
Speaker 15: like why, I don't know what four years ago something
Speaker 15: like that, And now I'm fucking Sam.
Speaker 13: I don't know.
Speaker 15: So I don't want to be weird.
Speaker 5: I don't want her to get like upset.
Speaker 13: But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 15: I don't want to like hurt my friend girlfriend, you know,
Speaker 15: but she's.
Speaker 1: But why would it Why would it hurt her if
Speaker 1: she's that if it was her idea.
Speaker 10: My idea.
Speaker 15: Actually I think it was your idea, it was my idea.
Speaker 10: I don't know.
Speaker 15: I just don't want her that's okay, And then it
Speaker 15: hurst her feeling like later.
Speaker 1: Well, look, I if I had to put money on,
Speaker 1: like what I think you're going to end up doing
Speaker 1: after this phone call, it sounds like it sounds like
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it. And I hope you have a
Speaker 1: good time. I hope you have a good time in
Speaker 1: the moment. I really do. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: you want to, if you want to borrow three gecko
Speaker 1: costumes and make it even steamier, you let me know.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, yeah fuck it, let's do.
Speaker 4: It, Danny, And that a conversation.
Speaker 2: No, I'm upset, he's living a life. I'm just a gecko. Yeah,
Speaker 2: hearing about it?
Speaker 1: Yeah see now you know, now you guys, now you
Speaker 1: guys have to do it because or else it would
Speaker 1: have just been in vain us Gecko, Okay, we have
Speaker 1: to do it. Say anything else you want to say
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 9: Yeah, just be safe, be nice to each other. A
Speaker 9: triple ax. Well, the stuff you've been doing with Taggy.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 9: Yeah, man, I'll you know, I'll let you know how
Speaker 9: it goes next time.
Speaker 1: Sounds like you guys got a collaboration of your own
Speaker 1: to get to.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 9: Yeah, for one one before the other, obviously, but thank
Speaker 9: you for the opportunity.
Speaker 1: Take care of guys.
Speaker 9: Bye bye.
Speaker 1: Who I was, actually I was I was watching a
Speaker 1: different part. I was watching a different podcast with you
Speaker 1: on it, and you were asked this question, you have
Speaker 1: you have a threesome?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Nice, I mean it's not all it's cracked up
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah what what? What issues did you run into?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like I said, it's it's a
Speaker 3: lot of hard work. I mean, there's nothing worse than
Speaker 3: having a trash treason.
Speaker 1: Now you got because now you've got two people talking.
Speaker 3: Expectat at this play in my life, I would rather
Speaker 3: have just one person. I mean, you know, a lot
Speaker 3: of ship drug fueled, alcohol fueled.
Speaker 2: Yeah shit, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. But now it's like I ain't
Speaker 3: even damn I'm a one woman.
Speaker 2: Then now nice man, I make love. Now.
Speaker 1: I gotta say I was I was watching a lot
Speaker 1: of podcasts with you on them, like in preparation for this,
Speaker 1: and you know, obviously I don't know you very well personally,
Speaker 1: but you do you seem calmer? Is that fair to say?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Definitely.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I just was going through a lot
Speaker 3: the past few years, you know, and I'm just at
Speaker 3: a spot in my life, like I say, just not
Speaker 3: living in my head so much and just enjoying a moment.
Speaker 3: I think I was putting myself. I was stressing myself
Speaker 3: out so much that I wasn't even living life, you know,
Speaker 3: so worried about bad shouted happening. And now I wouldn't
Speaker 3: even enjoying a good ship that was in front of me.
Speaker 3: So now I'm just feel blessed.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Fuck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, dude, thank thanks so much for doing this.
Speaker 1: And I'm very happy for you that you seem like
Speaker 1: you're in this new era of life that that you're
Speaker 1: very happy having me.
Speaker 3: Man, I've been watching your ship for some years now,
Speaker 3: So it's cool on there man.
Speaker 1: Cool cool, cool dude. Is there anything you want to like,
Speaker 1: you have any plugs or anything coming up?
Speaker 2: Do you want to tell the people about? Yeah? I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, you can watch my podcast Danny Brown Show
Speaker 2: every Tuesday on Wild Mate, you know, and new album
Speaker 2: coming very sooner than motherfuckers think. So it's going to
Speaker 2: be fun. It's going to be fun.
Speaker 1: And if you haven't already check out what for anyone
Speaker 1: who who hasn't heard you, like, where where should they start?
Speaker 2: Far as music? Yeah, I mean I guess you know
Speaker 2: you can just I don't know.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I don't know because every album, I
Speaker 3: would say, is kind of like my babies, and they're
Speaker 3: all kind of different from each other.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: It depends on what the person into and what they're
Speaker 3: going through life, what's going on in their life at
Speaker 3: the moment.
Speaker 2: But I would say I don't know.
Speaker 3: The best shit to do is probably start with Triple
Speaker 3: X and work your way up, or start with you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying and work your way down, or
Speaker 3: just listen to the Peggy Ship. I would say that's
Speaker 3: the most funnest, not the Trauma Dump. So that probably
Speaker 3: the jpeg Maffia album.
Speaker 1: You know, check out Scaring the Hose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fun one. We have fun making that,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Beautiful. Hey Ghak, bless you Danny, thank.
Speaker 2: You man, you too.
Speaker 1: Brother goes on the line taking your phone calls every
Speaker 1: night ever.
Speaker 2: Goes to his i's.
Speaker 1: Teaching your cloudy life.
Speaker 2: Not an expert.