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Speaker 1: Problem solved, but Don Tyler Murray that defender is in

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Speaker 1: multiple pieces. All that was nasty right there? Rights the

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Speaker 1: latest news and notes from the guys who covered the teams.

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Speaker 1: Drilled by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on,

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Speaker 1: Bring it on. Slammed the ground by Budha Baker like

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Speaker 1: a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. I scared

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Speaker 1: of nobody. Here's Paul Calvic before you get started, as

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Speaker 1: anyone else here, Let's do an audio che does anyone

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Speaker 1: else here that incessant and infernal banging that's going on?

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Speaker 1: Or is that just in my own head? Because I

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Speaker 1: have a team of roofers at Cossa. Kalvic all this week.

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Speaker 1: So the NonStop banging and hammering and sawing and power drills,

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Speaker 1: and it's like it's just embedded in my head. So

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Speaker 1: consider yourself lucky over there, Darren Rban that you can

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Speaker 1: just ignore me as we speak here on Cardinal's Underground,

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Speaker 1: Danny Serek and just the you know, the peaceful bliss

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Speaker 1: that is your house in your existence, and you don't

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Speaker 1: have that. I'm found hitting a new roof that's expensive

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Speaker 1: there po, I'm putting the pounding in a pounding headache

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Speaker 1: right now, and you're just over there without a care

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Speaker 1: in the world. At least he's not yawning. That's right,

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Speaker 1: that's right, hashtag. It can always get worse, and it

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Speaker 1: did last week. So at least that didn't elicit a

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Speaker 1: yawn out of Danny over there. So that's good. That's good,

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Speaker 1: not bad. It's not bad. I mean, you know, these

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Speaker 1: things happen, guys. I mean, I was feeling pretty good

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Speaker 1: about my offseason regiment and fitness routine until I saw

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Speaker 1: Nick Chubb in the squat rack and he was he

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Speaker 1: was six hundred seventy five pounds. Who saw that? You

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Speaker 1: see the bar was bending? Just come on, man, he's

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Speaker 1: seventy five pounds goes down. Those guys on either side

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Speaker 1: are useless. Why are you even doing that? Why do

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Speaker 1: you need to bench that much? Why don't need to

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Speaker 1: see if you can bench that much? That makes no

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Speaker 1: sense to me. Besides, you want your twelve hours on Twitter?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think he does that. This is just

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Speaker 1: me because it provides a reminder to every hundred eighty

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Speaker 1: hundred ninety pound dB that thou shalt not meet me

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Speaker 1: in the open field, that you should make a business decision.

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Speaker 1: When I get to the second level, get out of

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Speaker 1: my way, because I squat six seventy five and I

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Speaker 1: will truck you. And I was gonna say twelve hours

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Speaker 1: on two. I mean, we're in Arizona Podcast and we're

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Speaker 1: sitting here talking about Nick Chubbs, so we got to

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Speaker 1: go into the details. I'm sorry, And I mean to

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Speaker 1: see either that at Tom Brady's broadcast contract. I don't

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Speaker 1: know where else you want to go here before we've

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Speaker 1: got ten more years before he retires and gets to

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Speaker 1: the broadcast. So right, well, he's coming to town. There's

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Speaker 1: Is this going to be the first time Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: has played the Arizona Cardinals in Arizona. No, but it

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Speaker 1: will be the first time he's played in this stadium

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Speaker 1: because at one Stadium two thousand and four. Gotcha, Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right? I wanted to create a twelve. The Patriots

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Speaker 1: So the schedule is coming, The full twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: o'clock Arizona time on Thursday, NFL Network, NFL dot Com, Acy,

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Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com, all the other platforms. And do you

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Speaker 1: see where Drew standing on the Red Sea report guys?

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Speaker 1: He was asked by Craig Grilu. All right, so what

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Speaker 1: where are the division games? What games are in primetime?

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Speaker 1: winning the division, making the playoffs. That's what I want

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Speaker 1: be honest, I'm purely selfish, Paul, and so I care

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Speaker 1: only about And it's funny that Drew mentioned this as

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Speaker 1: of what Drew was saying, is how primetime games, whether

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Speaker 1: they don't tend to get a whole lot of primetime nods.

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Speaker 1: big takeaways from last season. Boot a few times when there,

426
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean the locals, the Twelves turned on the home

427
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: team and coach Double Rainbow he was a little shaken.

428
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: That was the press comments afterwards where he looked really shaken.

429
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: They just lost to Colt McCoy. So so look, I mean,

430
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 1: Cardinals schedule comes out and then we'll go from there

431
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: and um, you know the Raiders Stadium, definitely looking forward

432
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: to that and uh and we'll see and then of

433
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 1: course the preseason. Right, there's gonna now three preseason games, right,

434
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: just as a reminder or refresh for everyone. Again, that's right,

435
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 1: that's right. The best part about not going to New

436
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: Orleans last year was somebody shouted out as the plane

437
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: was making a U turn somewhere outside Amarillo or wherever

438
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: it was, that, oh, you don't have to pay Louisiana

439
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 1: state taxes because there's no preseason games, so there was.

440
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: It wasn't just that you don't have to pay it.

441
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: They'll they'll come after you. Yes, They're one of those

442
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: states that will absolutely come after you. By the way,

443
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 1: speaking of states and the whole Dallas thing, Danny, can

444
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: I get a comment on the mayor of Dallas saying

445
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: that if there is an expansion in the NFL in

446
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: the near future, Dallas is deserving of a second NFL team.

447
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: That is so silly to me. Why because no team

448
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: will compete with the Cowboys there probably I just I

449
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: don't understand um Chargers. Chargers exist in LA with not

450
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: much of a fan base. Look, I'm obviously not invited

451
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 1: to the owners meetings, but I would imagine that Jerry

452
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: Jones has some power and would probably not that vote,

453
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: would not get approved to have another team. I'm just

454
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: going to stay for the record. I think this is

455
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: my personal opinion, and nobody's inviting me to owners meetings either.

456
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: I think expansion of the NFL would be dumb. I mean,

457
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: this team, this league is having a hard enough time

458
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: finding enough quarterbacks for the teams that it has. If

459
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: you grow it by more don't. I don't get it.

460
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: I understand it's money related, but I do not like

461
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: the idea of expansion. But that's just me. Well, until

462
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: they float out there a five billion dollar expansion fee

463
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: maybe which is split between the thirty two other owners,

464
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: and that could be enticing. We'll see, we'll see. They look,

465
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: the game's going global? What does that mean? How does

466
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Speaker 1: that figure into expansion? Most seem to think these days

467
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: you're not going to have a team in London or

468
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: anywhere else, but you will have a series of games

469
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: in these international locations, and then they'll be able to

470
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: sell a package of tickets to the locals. For example,

471
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: what is now three or four games in London might

472
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: become become a full blown eight games in London, and

473
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: then the locals can buy a season ticket package. I

474
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 1: do think eventually the seventeenth game, and I think we're

475
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: trending towards eighteen at some point, but I do think

476
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: eventually the seventeenth game becomes a neutral site game for

477
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: every team in the league every year. That's what I

478
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: think is going to happen. Off the top of my head,

479
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: I mean, what what major cities in the States would

480
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: need an expansion team who's kind of missing one. Well, again,

481
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can even go there. Jacksonville

482
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: never struck me as a place that needed an NFL team,

483
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: But here we are, So I agree with that. I'd

484
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: rather move Jacksonville and relocate Jacksonville to a deserving, worthy,

485
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: legitimate NFL market, then expand the NFL. I mean, but

486
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: but but where where's the whole go back to Saint Louis.

487
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you've got Saint Louis. Um uh beyond that,

488
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's many other places, But you

489
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: just never know with the NFL. I mean, and there's

490
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: been times when they've had only one extra team. Was

491
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: it Houston that came in by itself? I honestly don't remember.

492
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: There was there was a there was a time when

493
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,479
Speaker 1: the the NFL actually had an odd number of teams.

494
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: Because that is why the Cardinals had the dreaded week

495
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: one by in two thousand and one, uh and didn't

496
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: play the weekend before nine to eleven. Was because the

497
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: Cardinals actually were off that weekend because there was an

498
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: odd number of teams. So, I mean, it's it's it's

499
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: not unheard of to add one team either. But you know,

500
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if Saint Louis is getting a team

501
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 1: anytime soon now that they've been suing the NFL and

502
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So my friends from college who live

503
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: in Saint Louis, which your love a team? Because not

504
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: a single one of them stayed a Rams fan and

505
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: not a single one of them moved over to the Chiefs.

506
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: It always cracks me up. And I know I'm getting

507
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: far off topic, but it's a podcast, that's what we do.

508
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: It always cracks me up that Saint Louis gets so

509
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: angry about the Rams getting stolen from them when the

510
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: Rams came from LA. So, like, didn't they steal the

511
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: Rams in the first place? Yes, And and you can

512
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: make the argument, okay, the Arizona stole the Cardinals, except

513
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: the Cardinals came from Chicago. You didn't have them. You

514
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: took them from Chicago, and you didn't take them. I mean,

515
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: obviously these owners want to move, but I don't know

516
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: food for thought. Yeah, well, look, the game is definitely

517
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: going global. You see the NBA is going to play

518
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: a preseason game in Abu Dhabi. I mean, okay, and

519
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: then do you see this one? I marked this one down.

520
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: According to Front Office Sports, Chris Paul, Larry Fitzgerald, and

521
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: Kelvin Beecham are all investing in the world's most popular

522
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: cricket league. They're now minority owners. Is that Chris Paul

523
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: the commanders of a team is important to note of

524
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 1: a team in India, that is a cricket franchise in

525
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: India that's worth over a billion dollars. That's how big

526
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: cricket is in parts of the world. And Larry Fitzgerald

527
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: and Calvin Beecham are among the minority owners. As long

528
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: as you brought it up, Paul, are our crew that

529
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: just went down to Mexico for the draft eight crickets

530
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: while they were down there, so that may be something

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00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: we partake in. Chocolate covered, No, they were. I think

532
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: they were deep fried. I would try that once. I'll

533
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: try that once. How about the cows tongue, But you

534
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: know what I actually take about cows to I feel

535
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: like I would almost try anything once just to try it.

536
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: But I don't know about cow's tongue. I would ascribe

537
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: to me as looking exactly like a cow's tongue would

538
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: And there's just no way I'm trying that. Yeah, the texture.

539
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't think I could get behind. I don't think

540
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm doing crickets either. How I could do a cricket

541
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: something that I'm chasing out of the backyards, just to

542
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: see what it tastes like. I don't know you're eating

543
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: habits standing, but my guesses you have found many, many,

544
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: many things in your life that already taste good. Why

545
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 1: do you need something else, like a bug you don't have,

546
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: like you just don't want to try, just to try it,

547
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 1: just to say you'd try to cricket. I mean, if

548
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: somebody wants to pay me, maybe I'll pay you. It

549
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 1: seems like a good time to interject with the NFL

550
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: dot com article that's out, and here's the headline, The

551
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: way too early wind total projections for every team. I

552
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: analytics expert Cynthia Freeland hashtag game theory is what they

553
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: threw up there. The way too early wind total projections

554
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: for every team. The Rams, as we look at the

555
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: NFC West, are projected to ten eleven and a half.

556
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: The win total. Things are a lot lower than you'd think,

557
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: and they're a lot closer than you'd think. Cardinals are

558
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: actually projected to finish third in the Division, the nine

559
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: Ers have nine points six wins, the Cardinals nine point

560
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: one wins, and then the last place Seahawks five point

561
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: six wins. Usually, usually with projected win totals, i'd be

562
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: do you have the whole league there? I do not.

563
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: I usually with those like because you're you're always going

564
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: to have a team that usually does really well, But

565
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: the projected win totals never, they never. It's it's always

566
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: a lot more clumpier. Like I bet you, there's probably

567
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: nobody in the league that they project to have more

568
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: than thirteen wins, and there's always a chance that that's

569
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: going to happen, but it always is always a little

570
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: bit lower than that. But it would gonna be interesting.

571
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Speaker 1: I did look up the Vegas over under. The most

572
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: popular for the Cardinals is nine and a half, and

573
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: according to this game theory analytics, the Cardinals are projected

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00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: to have nine point one wins. So that's your neighborhood

575
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: right now, right around nine wins for the Cardinals next season.

576
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: And when you look at the strength of schedule once

577
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: again and you see they're playing the AFC West and

578
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: then teams like the Patriots and the Eagles playoff teams

579
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: then you really don't be under Hopkins the first six,

580
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: first six games, and we didn't even mention that. You know,

581
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: the first thing, in addition to whether you have a

582
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: cold weather game and where's the buy and how many

583
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: primetime games? Who were the first six opponents. That's probably

584
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: the first thing we should all look at Thursday at

585
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: five o'clock is how do the Cardinals stack up against

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00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: the first six teams and who exactly are they're playing?

587
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: Minus d hop Right too. Yeah that's true, but but

588
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: again that's that's the league. And I think the way

589
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: this team is now set up with what we saw

590
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: in terms of what they decided to do in free

591
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: agency and the draft and those sorts of things. I mean,

592
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: this team is going to have to score to win.

593
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: But that's every team, you know. Somebody I saw something

594
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: the other day which I completely agree with, and I

595
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: think I've brought it up before. Like we can talk

596
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: about building these great defenses and everything, but like if

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00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: you're playing the Chiefs or you're playing the Bucks when

598
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: they're rolling, or you're playing they don't play them. But

599
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: if you're playing the Bills, I don't care how good

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00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 1: your defense is. If your if your offense isn't capable

601
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: of scoring thirty points, you're probably gonna lose. That's my feeling.

602
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: And if your defense doesn't believe in your offense, then

603
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: look out. I know we've talked about that. We've talked

604
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: about this, and I think it happened in the playoff game.

605
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: As soon as the Cardinals got down ten points, fourteen points,

606
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: it was over because I'm not sure the defense believe

607
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: that the offense could get it in gear at that point,

608
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: because the offense looks so dysfunctional and was so inepped

609
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: against the Rams, and Aaron Donald was running rush shot

610
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: and so it just we've seen it before. If you

611
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback, the defense doesn't believe, and if

612
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: your offense isn't firing, the defense doesn't believe. It didn't

613
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: have time to rest. Offense was on and off the

614
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: field pretty quickly. In fact, last Friday, there was a

615
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 1: segment on Good Morning Football, Did you guys see this?

616
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: And here was the question and I quote, how concerned

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Speaker 1: are you for the Cardinals. This is in the aftermath

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00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: of the de Hoop suspension, and they're trying to calculate,

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Speaker 1: all right, what is the impact going to be on

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals, and you know, to what degree should the

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Speaker 1: Boxers be bunging right now? If you're in that Cardinals

622
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: locker home. And here's a few of the answers because

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00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: I rewound it and I just I just jotted down

624
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: a few of the quotes. Tory Smith was the player

625
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: guest two time Super Bowl champion receiver Tory Smith quote,

626
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm not concerned at all. This team has been on

627
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: a tear at the beginning of seasons. Okay, there's an

628
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: interesting theory. The Cardinals have been nails to start seasons,

629
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: especially last year, although you can argue they got lucky

630
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: in the Minnesota win in Week two and maybe even

631
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: Jacksonville what Trevor Lawrence throwing them much just a tailor

632
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: made pick six perhaps, But again, if we start talking

633
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: about luck, then I would also say luck worked against

634
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: them in the Packers game that they lost. Okay, that

635
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: stuff evens out. And in the Jacksonville game there was

636
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: the kick six at the end of the first half,

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Speaker 1: So okay, all right, Peter Schreger, I'm really concerned. I

638
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: think it's a huge deal. D Hop is amazing and

639
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: it's more than a quarter of the season. And then

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00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: Tom Pallisero waited in and said, what happened to Kylo's

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00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: productivity without d Hop? And it was sort of a

642
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: rhetorical question. They threw up a graphic the before and

643
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: the after earned Kyler's numbers in his productivity in the

644
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: touchdown interception ratio and everything else, and his passer rating,

645
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: which obviously knows dived without d Hop. So I thought

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00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: that was an interesting question. How concerned are you for

647
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: the Cardinals in the wake of the six game suspension.

648
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say I'm not concerned, because we

649
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: all know how much d Hop means to this team

650
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: and makes this team better just being on the field.

651
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: And I've said this before, I have a different expectation

652
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: and a different standard for how this offense is going

653
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: to work because they now have a heads up that

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00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: they are going to be without d Hop for the

655
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: first six weeks, as opposed to last season when it

656
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: happened in the middle of the season. He kind of

657
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: came back then got hurt again and it was just

658
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: kind of figuring it out, which during the week is

659
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: already so crammed of how much time you have to

660
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: install things, and you know, really up the chemistry with

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00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: all these players, so now that they know what is

662
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: coming and they have time to work around that and

663
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: build chemistry in the Cardinal was brought in a player

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Speaker 1: who already has chemistry, not just from the past with

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00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and Hollywood Brown, somebody who was training with

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00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: Kyler in Dallas this offseason. I have different expectations, in

667
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: different standards for how this offense will operate without DeAndre

668
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: Hopkins on the field. I would agree that you have

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Speaker 1: to have a different offense. If you're going to come

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00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: out and try and run the same offense that you

671
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: would with d hop then it's not gonna work. That

672
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: was proven out over the last six weeks of last season.

673
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: You need a different offensive identity without DeAndre Hopkins, and

674
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: I think we've seen some of that with the resigning

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00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: to James Conner and with the tight ends. I think

676
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: the Cardinals realize, yeah, they better evolved. I bring this

677
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: up and I think it's apt. Sean McVay without Robert Woods,

678
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: tried to run that same ten personnel offense where they

679
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: led the league in ten personnel four wide receivers, and

680
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: they lost three in a row, including the Cardinals beat

681
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: down of them in week four, and McVay said, you

682
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: know what, this isn't gonna work. You don't have the

683
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: same type of talent in the receiver room minus. And

684
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: this is before ob J was up and running and

685
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: really up to speed. And so he said, you know what,

686
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: We're going back to the Todd Gurley offense. We're gonna

687
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: be much more balanced. We're gonna use our running backs

688
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: a lot more, We're gonna go between the tackles. And

689
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: look at what happened to the Rams they took off,

690
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Speaker 1: And so I think there's something to be learned there

691
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. If it's a copycat league, you need

692
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: to look at the Rams last year and how they

693
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: evolved things now. Is gonna be the exact same offenseman

694
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Speaker 1: via Resarner, No, but I do believe that you will

695
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: see a lot more twelve personnel. Dare I say thirteen personnel?

696
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: Max Williams is available the first six games of the season,

697
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: you could absolutely you didn't believe in totally sandbagging. It's

698
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: like Larry on the golf course, completely sandbagging. When he

699
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: said that if those three tight ends are available, there

700
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: will be packages. There will be blood with those three

701
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 1: tight ends I honestly believe that we see. And what's

702
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: interesting is Drew Stanton on the Red Sea Report this week.

703
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: I caught a little bit of it, and here is

704
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: his quote. When the Arizona offense bogged down last season,

705
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: it's when the Cardinals couldn't run the ball. That was,

706
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: according to Drew, when they were no longer a balanced offense. Now,

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00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: was that because of the fact that de Hop wasn't

708
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: commanding as much attention and defenses were able to put

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Speaker 1: another player in the box. I'm not sure it didn't

710
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: get into the XS and o's of it, but Drew

711
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: did go on to say that the tight ends I'm

712
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: quoting loosely now, the tight ends allow the Cardinals that

713
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: much more versatility in the play calling, and much more

714
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: versatility than when you have four receivers on the field

715
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Speaker 1: because with the tight ends on the field, you're not

716
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: showing your hand as much. And Wolf has made this

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00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: point and I do agree with them as much as

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00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: we bicker and we go back and forth. Is that

719
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: when Max Williams was healthy, it was a different Cardinals

720
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: offense because it wasn't as much of a tell. Wait

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00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: a minute, Max Williams is in the huddle x Williams

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00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: that the line of scrimmage, are they running it or

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00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: throwing it as opposed to when a zach Ertz is

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Speaker 1: in the game and his packages are run, especially when

725
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Speaker 1: he's flexed out. Yes, I think the percentages would say

726
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: you're going to throw it in that situation. And did

727
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: the Cardinals offense become a little too predictable last year

728
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: in addition to the personnel losses. I think that's I

729
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: think that's a fair analysis, and I guess we would

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00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: see it. I mean, again, I don't this team isn't

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden going to use thirteen personnel if

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Speaker 1: if Max Williams is healthy enough, I think I think

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Speaker 1: that's gonna mean Trey McBride probably isn't gonna play a

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Speaker 1: lot on offense, and and they'll use those those two

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Speaker 1: other tight ends. But zach Ertz is you know, he

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Speaker 1: does better as a receiver. Uh you know. I do

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00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: think that, you know, having Brown with a better roundel

738
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Speaker 1: more and being able to like work zach Ertz in

739
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: the offseason exactly what you want to do with him.

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Speaker 1: I did think that helps. I agree though, that they

741
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: need to run the ball. I mean, I think they

742
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: got hurt last year. I like, James Connor's your number

743
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: one guy, but I think they need that element that

744
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds brought to them, and I think they were

745
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: missing that when he got hurt. And I think if

746
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: you look at when they really started struggling offensively, it's

747
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: when Chase Edmonds wasn't out there. It wasn't. I mean,

748
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: they had James Conner and he was doing well, but

749
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Speaker 1: you I think you need that Chase Edmonds element. Now,

750
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: whether that's Eno gives you that or whatever, I don't know,

751
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: But how would you define that the Chase For somebody

752
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: who didn't see a single Cardinals game last year, what

753
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: was the Chase Edmonds element? I feel like, as good

754
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: as James Connor can be, I feel like Chase Edmonds

755
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: gives you a little bit more of an electric feel

756
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: out of the backfield that could break some yards. I mean,

757
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: he wasn't in a between the tackles guy, but the

758
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: dude average five yards. It's a carry and that's not

759
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: what James Connor was giving you. And some of that

760
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: was because James Connor plays short yardage, but that's just

761
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: not James Connor's game. Most of the time. And I

762
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: feel like sometimes they needed a little bit of that

763
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: spark because Jase Edmonds isn't a burner, but most of

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Speaker 1: the time he'd make the first guy miss. Yes, shift,

765
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a good that's a good way

766
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: to say it. That's the way I think of it.

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00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: I think that's a good way to say it. Who

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Speaker 1: is that guy besides Rondale Moore? I don't know if

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00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 1: they have a lot of guys like that besides Rondale Moore.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen Hollywood Brown enough to know if he

771
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: can be that guy. But Rondale Moore can do that

772
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: in space. But but who else are we talking about?

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00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: It's not d Hop can I shouldn't say that d

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00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: Hop can do that. I mean, we've seen him make

775
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: guys miss with But the problem with d Hop is

776
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: he'd make a guy miss and he'll get another five

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00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: yards out of it. It's usually not another twenty person,

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00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know, sometimes I

779
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: think that's to me, that's part of it. You know.

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00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: The other thing I think up too, and this like,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to say, Okay, how concerned are you

782
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals this coming year? I would say one

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00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: if one is d hop one B, I would say,

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Speaker 1: can you stop the run? That's what I'm looking at

785
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: right now, especially in your division. Does Kyle Shanahan make

786
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: you stop the run? Absolutely? Look at the Rams and

787
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: now they went to more over run game. Look at

788
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: what the Seahawks are doing right now, drafting the two

789
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: offensive tackles, two rookies who are probably going to start,

790
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: and then loading up on running backs, not just resigning

791
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: Rashad Penny, but Kenneth Walker, a high draft pick out

792
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: of Michigan State. To me, if you're saying what's in

793
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: under the radar concern that I would have with the Cardinals,

794
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: it would be their ability to stop the run because

795
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: they did not go with either a big defensive tackle

796
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: and free agency or the draft. And I'm just wondering

797
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: for a team that allowed one hundred and fifty plus

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00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: rushing yards six times last year, it was very inconsistent.

799
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: I'll just say that the run defense. And so that

800
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 1: is one big question I have going into this season

801
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: and going into training camp and what's going to happen

802
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: between now and training camp in terms of a time

803
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: time sign at the defensive tackle position. I think in general,

804
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: that front seven on the defense is how much better

805
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: off are you now than you were a couple of weeks,

806
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago. And I don't know that yet.

807
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: We gotta wait till these players get out on the

808
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: field and start seeing that. Seeing what these rookies in

809
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: the third round, Cameron Thomas, my j Sanders as those

810
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: outside linebackers, how disruptive can they be? And you know,

811
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: nose tackles, you're riot, defensive tackles, like how much can

812
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: they really stop the run? And stuff that inside? Because

813
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: it obviously all works together, and that to me is

814
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: still the biggest hesitation on this team and the biggest

815
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: hole of how much better are they now? Could we

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00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: argue the worse in the front seven right now? Losing

817
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones and Jordan Hicks second it tackles, Jordan Hicks

818
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: led the team in defensive snaps. Absolutely, I definitely think

819
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones. I'm I'm on the fence over over the

820
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks thing. I'll we'll see you that. But but

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Speaker 1: I'm also going to go back to you know, I'm

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00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: I know you love it when I do this, Paul,

823
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna disagree I mean, I agree that they were

824
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: inconsistent stopping the run. I agree that it would be

825
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: better to be better at it. I would want to

826
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Speaker 1: go back and look. I would say that their struggles

827
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: down the stretch, I find I find other things that

828
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: are much more alarming than when they went on their

829
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: losing streak. And I was looking at it the other day,

830
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: like they they only gave up four yards a carry,

831
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Speaker 1: Like they had a couple of games where they definitely

832
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: did Colts game which they almost won yep um uh.

833
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: The not the Cowboys game. The Seahawks game obviously was bad.

834
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: That asking rushing no one but the Cardinals, the intensity

835
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: there in that final game, And I agree, and I

836
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: also I just I would I would want to go

837
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: back and look at those losses. I would still say

838
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: that if you are able, and I know you're going

839
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: to argue, well, the run game means that you're in

840
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: better passing situations. I just feel like, I feel like

841
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: if you can defend the pass the run game whatever,

842
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I know one I strongly feel and I will.

843
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: With the way the rules are and how everything is,

844
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,479
Speaker 1: you're not getting beat by running teams. You're not even

845
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: the teams that run well against you. If you stop

846
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: their pass, you're not gonna lose. The problem in those

847
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: games is can you stop the pass when you need to?

848
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: And that's why we can talk all day about they

849
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: didn't add a defensive run stop or whatever. I don't

850
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: that's not even in the same universe for me as

851
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: worrying about their pass rush and where that's going to come. Right,

852
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: But you got to get that pressure to force a

853
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: quarterback to get rid of the ball. And how about

854
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: your secondary and what part of the secondary are you

855
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: like not confident in right now? Well, I guess that

856
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: that's your concern. Well, again, when we're talking about defending

857
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 1: the past, it's not just the secondary, it's also the past, right,

858
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: So obviously those guys up front mean something. I mean,

859
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 1: my point is is if we're talking about worrying about

860
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: defending the pass and defending the run, and what's a

861
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: bigger concern, it's always going to be defending the pass.

862
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: You're just saying as a whole Okay, I see, I

863
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: got you know, if you look at starting with the

864
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: loss to the Rams on Monday night, Okay, that's when

865
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: the big place became a big problem. There were three

866
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: plays in that game of forty plus yards Vans Joseph's

867
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: sight of this, and until that point in the season,

868
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: there were three plays of forty plus yards allowed. So

869
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: could you argue that all of a sudden the defenses

870
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: became prone the Cardinals defense became prone to given out

871
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: the big play? Was that the biggest problem down the stretch?

872
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: You could that Colts loss. I'm just going to quick

873
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: look at some of the box scores. Cardinals defense allowed

874
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: five plays of twenty plus yards in that game. However,

875
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 1: I will say the only game that Cardinals won down

876
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: the stretch was against Dallas, and they stuffed and stifled

877
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: the Dallas one game seventeen carries for forty five yards.

878
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: They gave up two points six yards of carrying. They

879
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: made him one dimensional, and even though Dak had three

880
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: touchdown as a zero picks, the Cowboys lost. No, but

881
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: why else did they win that game? They won that

882
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: game because they were more efficient offensively in that game

883
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: than they had been in any of those other games.

884
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: I mean, if Tweezy is gonna catch two touchdown passes,

885
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna be in okay shape, even if you

886
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: don't have DAP And again, I go back, you know,

887
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: it's all got to work together, and it goes back

888
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: to what I was saying earlier. We can talk about

889
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: the defense. If this offense doesn't perform like it's supposed to.

890
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: And I said this all offseason before twenty twenty, and

891
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: I said it all offseason last year, and I'm gonna

892
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: say it again this year. This team is built that

893
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: it's got to be offense first. We can sit here

894
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,479
Speaker 1: and say defense, defense, defense, defense, defense. If this team

895
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: doesn't perform like it's supposed to offensively, it's not winning.

896
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: And I would say that's most teams in the NFL

897
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: right now. You can get good defensive players, and there

898
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: are going to be teams that have good defensive games,

899
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: but you aren't. In my opinion, you are not going

900
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: and winning Super Bowls. If you're saying our team's built

901
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: on defense and our offense just has to manage the game,

902
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: you're not winning. And I'm not going to argue that

903
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: not in today's game. I'm just saying, if your run

904
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: defense is a liability to that degree, for example, without

905
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: adding to your defensive line for the most part in

906
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: the off season, missing your play caller on defense, and

907
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: your middle linebacker, basically the brains of the defense in

908
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: Geordan Hicks, I mean Zaven Collins right now, completely unproven

909
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: yea in that role as all the talent in the world.

910
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: I mean, you know. But but defensive line. Okay, JJ

911
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: Watt got hurt. I think that was a big deal.

912
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: But this defensive line, the one that struggled down the

913
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: stretch and the one that we're talking about possibly going

914
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: into the season with, it's it's no different than the

915
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 1: one that was playing well at the beginning of last season.

916
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips didn't do jack last year. So what are

917
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: we talking about? Corey Peters is it? Did he make

918
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: that much of a difference? Well, yeah, I guess I'm talking.

919
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: I guess I'm talking more the run defense in general

920
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: minus Chandler Jones. You know, teams had to put that

921
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: much more attention to Chandler Jones. But if you're running

922
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: the ball, you're you weren't worried about Chandler Jones. Like

923
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: during on run plays, you're not giving extra attention to

924
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones. You're giving him extra attention on pass rushes.

925
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: Now you can I think it's a fair point when

926
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: you talk about Hicks, and I'm interested to see how

927
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: that goes. And I think Jordan Hicks played solid football

928
00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: last year. But Jordan Hicks wasn't Bobby Wagner. I mean,

929
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: if he was that good, they wouldn't have let him go.

930
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: Here's the only thing that at Paul's point, he was

931
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: calling the defense. And so that's the biggest thing for

932
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: me is that was part of the reason that we

933
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: heard of why he was playing more than Zaven was

934
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: just that time as a rookie to get used to

935
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: that and to understand that, and Jordan Hicks was calling

936
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: the defense and that in the last few games when

937
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: they were getting run over. So I would say they

938
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: didn't get rid of Jordan Hicks because of performance. They

939
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: got rid of Jordan Hicks because he's in the way

940
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: of Zavan Collins. If they would have kept Jordan Hicks,

941
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: he would have started again because the whole locker room

942
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: knew maybe that he was the more qualified middle linebacker.

943
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: They had to pave the way, you know. And it's

944
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: hard to disagree with fans who sited well down the

945
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: stretch when Jordan Hicks wasn't in there. You saw Tanner

946
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: Vallejo and Joe Walker before you saw Zavan Collins and

947
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: that's and so it just contributes to the question I

948
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: agree with you, and I'm not. I'm not You're not

949
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: wrong on that, But again I would say that, you know,

950
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: I don't the struggles they had down the stretch, You're

951
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: you're naming some guys that they don't have. Those guys

952
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: were playing two and that wasn't helping them. So and

953
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: again I also, I guess, I'm it's gonna be tough

954
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: for me to come off the whole idea that, like,

955
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 1: you're right, there was a couple of bad run defense,

956
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: but like even the Seattle game, you're saying they weren't

957
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: all the way invested in that one, which is that's

958
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: a whole another podcast. So well, Cliff Kingsbury started as

959
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: postgame presser. I vividly remember saying they wanted it more

960
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: than we did, so okay, and they did run for

961
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: over two hundred yards, and you know, that's the first

962
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: It's one of the first things I look at to

963
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: see if a team is all in is what did

964
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: the other team run for? Because if most of the time,

965
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: if there's a will, there's a way, you know, when

966
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 1: it comes to to run defense. We'll see, That's all.

967
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. In the Cardinals division going against Shanahan

968
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: and now what the Rams look like, and most definitely

969
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: the Seahawks who are going to be run first, that

970
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: that's just okay because the only way the Seahawks are

971
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: beating the Cardinals. I think we can all agree with

972
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: Drew Locke or whoever's a quarterback, is that they establish

973
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: a run game and that quarterback does become a game manager.

974
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: Because Drew Locke is not beating the Cardinals next year,

975
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: I think that would be you would hope. No. So

976
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: by the way out on the field, speaking to the

977
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: young guys who's been out there and actually seen you

978
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: had some pictures of Hollywood seen a little bit. How's

979
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: he look For those of us who aren't out there, Darren,

980
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: you're one of the few sets of guys who have

981
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 1: actually seen Hollywood Brown in action as an Arizona Cardinal um.

982
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: You know, for what little I've been able to see him,

983
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean it was the day that I saw him.

984
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: It was really his first day out there. He spent

985
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: a lot more time talking to Sean Jefferson and or

986
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: Spencer Whipple. The two receivers coaches than you know, taking

987
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: a lot of reps because he's learning what he's supposed

988
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: to be doing. But I will say this, he can run.

989
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: I saw a couple of them where they just said,

990
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: you go along now right now, they don't there's no

991
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: defense out there, so you don't know how. But he

992
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: can get down the field awful fast. And then what's

993
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,959
Speaker 1: what's next. You're gonna be out rookie minicamp that's next

994
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: on the schedule. Yeah, I mean, Rookie Minicamp will be

995
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: this weekend and we'll get to see some of these

996
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: rookies that that will keep talking about. But again it's

997
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: I've seen enough rookie mini camps in my lifetime, and

998
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: you're not you're not. You're not really getting a good

999
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: sense of much of anything. And they're gonna run around,

1000
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna do more than the veterans have been doing

1001
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 1: because they'll have helmets on. They can go offense defense.

1002
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: But but even these days, I mean, coaches just don't

1003
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: do a whole lot. And then next week will be

1004
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: more phased two and then we'll finally get to OTAs

1005
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: and we'll see again those are voluntary. We'll see who

1006
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: shows up for those because they're still here. There's still

1007
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 1: there's still a significant amount of veterans who are not

1008
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: here or not participating on the field. Stuff they've got.

1009
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: There's a handful of veterans that are here every day

1010
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: working out on their own, but aren't out there on

1011
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: the field. And again, nothing wrong with that. That's that's

1012
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: what the rules say. So we'll kind of see how

1013
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: it plays out. The only answer you can get from

1014
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: a rookie mini campus who doesn't belong, that's true. You

1015
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: can tell, like some of the small school guys, or

1016
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: maybe there was a courtesy invite because somebody knew somebody

1017
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: or whatever. You're not sure exactly how this guy ended

1018
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: up an NFL field. Maybe it's just bodies. They need numbers,

1019
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh boy, yeah, that guy's not qualified.

1020
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: See you. You know, now the guys who do look good, okay,

1021
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: but they look good in a rookie mini camp, so

1022
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: you don't know how they're gonna look on the real

1023
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: thing starts. So that being the case, and the incredible

1024
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: degree of difficulty, which rookie do you think makes the

1025
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: greatest impact. We're sitting here six months from now, which

1026
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: rookie in this class do you think makes the greatest

1027
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: impact on this season, Danny, I will have to say

1028
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: Cameron Thomas or my J. Sanders, and I don't know

1029
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: between the two yet. And the reason I say that

1030
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: over tight end Trey McBride is because if Max Williams

1031
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: is able to make a full recovery and be on

1032
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 1: the field with zach Ertz, I can imagine him getting

1033
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 1: all of that playing time over Trey McBride. I think

1034
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: there's probably, you know, a good reason to understand why

1035
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: they drafted traymy bride. You have Max Williams on a

1036
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 1: one year deal, you probably want to get him going

1037
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: and have him be your future at that spot. However,

1038
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: I would imagine that Max Williams is going to get

1039
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 1: that twelve personnel package time with zach Ertz. So that's

1040
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: why I would say Cameron Thomas or my J. Sanders

1041
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: as an outside linebacker, Darren, I mean, I think that's

1042
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: where you go. I definitely would go pass rusher, and

1043
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,959
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with Cameron Thomas just because he's

1044
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more polished at this point. I do

1045
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,959
Speaker 1: think my J. Sanders is going to have a chance

1046
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: to come off the edge. But I think I think again,

1047
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: when you talk about production, you know, maybe I think

1048
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: I think the way you look at it, I think

1049
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: my j Sanders has more of a ceiling of what

1050
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: he potentially could be. But Cameron Thomas is the one

1051
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: with the production in college and those kinds of things,

1052
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: and he's a try hard guy, and I think try

1053
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: hard guys. I think I think they can have a

1054
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: little bit more of a quicker impact as a rookie,

1055
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: and they're gonna need somebody. I mean, it's honestly, guys.

1056
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be fascinating the way these next

1057
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: couple months play out, and right before training camp in like,

1058
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: do they sign some veteran pass rusher out there? Yes,

1059
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: I think I think there's a good chance of it.

1060
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Speaker 1: I don't know who it's going to be or what

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00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: they might be looking for, and if it's not going

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00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: to be till the end. I mean, the thing is is,

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00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: at this point it's unlikely you sign a veteran until

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00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: you get to training camp because the veterans really have

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00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: no interest in taking part in any of this offseason stuff,

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00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: and they know there's going to be a market for them,

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00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: so they might as well wait for training camp. And

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the first time that the decision makers

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Speaker 1: Steve Kim Company waited through the first week or the

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00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: first several days of training camp and then realized, you

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00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: know what, Yeah, we do have a legitimate need at

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00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: position X based on what I'm seeing in some of

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00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: these one on one drills. Now you have to wait

1074
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: like five days until they get full pads on these days, right,

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00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: So sometimes it does take a full week. But as

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00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: soon as you get to the first like old line,

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00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: D line drill, full pads, full go and some guys

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00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: getting destroyed. They've done that in the past. Its center,

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00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: they've done that in the past. Is certain old line

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00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: positions like oh boy, yeah, he's not gonna hold up

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00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: on our this offensive line. We better go get a VT.

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00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: It's funny that you bring that up because the news

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00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: got out there that they had Billy Price the free

1084
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: agent center in for a visit. Who played who started

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00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: all season last year with the Giants. I think they

1086
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: absolutely have to look at that position. You don't have

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00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: Max Garcia anymore. I know Marcus Henry is on the roster,

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00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: and I know Sean Harlow is on the roster, But

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00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: I think you need some veteran at center uh as

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00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: a as a fail safe for Rodney Hudson. And so

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00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: I think that's a I think they're going to sign

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00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: a veteran pass rusher. I absolutely think they're gonna look

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00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: very carefully at a veteran center as as a reserve possibility,

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00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: because right now you just don't You don't have that guy.

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Speaker 1: And I would be very nervous if something happened to

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00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson. And I know a lot of Giants fans

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00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: piled on on Twitter and said, oh, yeah, the Giants

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00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: old line was terrible the last few years, and you're

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00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: gonna go with Will Hernandez and Billy Price. And well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, Billy Price would be a backup beyond

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Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson. But second of all, don't forget that the

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00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: Giants had four old line coaches in four years. There

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00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: was a lot of dysfunction going on and on the Giants,

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00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: especially on the offensive side of the ball. When you

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00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: talk about rookies too, I'm not I'm not going to

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00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: completely rule out, believe it or not, I'm not going

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00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: to completely rule out the running backs. Licida Smith and

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00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: you know, I just I think there's opportunity tunity there

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00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: and I think, you know that's that's a position that

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Speaker 1: maybe be able to make some moves. I don't think

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00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: they want Josh Jones playing center or a guard. I

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00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,959
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be Will Hernandez in the end because

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00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: he's got the experience and he's got the connection with

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00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: Sean Coogler. But you know, I Markis Hayes maybe, but

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00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm just saying Smith because he's They picked them earlier,

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00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: and I would think that they would have more hope

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00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: for him at this point. It's funny because that last

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00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: day of the draft, like you look at your draft

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00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: picks and you're thinking, okay, you have your high draft picks,

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00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 1: which are Sanders and Thomas and McBride. Oh, by the way,

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00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: none of them are first round picks. And then you

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00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: had your later picks because there's this big group and

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00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: you're always looking to you know Ingram and Smith especially,

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00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: and except those aren't your fourth and fifth round picks.

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Speaker 1: Those are sixth round picks, and you it does matter

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00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: where they get picked, because if there was a normal

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00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: draft and your team had all at least one pick

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00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: in every round, you wouldn't be thinking as much of

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00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: Ingram or Smith because they're six rounders, but because they

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Speaker 1: were the next guy's picked, you view him a little

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00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: bit differently. See I view Qiante Ingram just as similar

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00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: to the edge rusher position. You have a need for

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00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: a backup running back, and is it gonna be Jonathan Ward,

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00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be Noo Benjamin Jalen Samuels. Yeah, so

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00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: that that's completely undecided. I agree that I see opportunity

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00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: there for a Kanta Ingram, who's an older guy who

1137
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: just spent three years of Texas in a year at

1138
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: USC and is considered in every down back was size

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00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: six foot to twenty or so, and you know if

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00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: he's going to be reliable and pass protection and blitz

1141
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: pick up so they can trust him to be on

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00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: the field. Running back historically is a position where rookie

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00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: can come in and play right away. I saw fascinating,

1144
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: and I know you love the analytics poll. I saw fascinating,

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00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: a fascinating chart, I guess analytics chart that basically showed that,

1146
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: since I think it was twenty twelve, there is, analytically

1147
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: the only difference between running backs picked anywhere in the

1148
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: draft legitimately is what they get paid. Wow, it's provable.

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01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there's outlets and Derrick Henry has been

1150
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: good and everything, but basically, if you look at all

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01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: running backs as a whole, the only difference if you

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01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: take a running back in the first or second round

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01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: compared to maybe the sixth or seventh round or late

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01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, later in the draft, is the amount of

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01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: money they get paid. Because production wise, it's not enough

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01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: to want a draft the running back early. And I

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01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: think that when you talk about teams that draft running backs,

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01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean I think with the analytics department this team

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01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: has right now and the way Steve Kime looks at stuff,

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01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't think this team will ever draft the running

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01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: back high ever again because again it makes no sense

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01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: the way the way they produce and the way you

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01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: can find them and the way you can plug them in.

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01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: I just don't see it happening. And look, these are

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01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: guys who have played a lot of football, like Lucida

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01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: Smith made thirty seven starts at left guard right So

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01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: here's a guy. Now if they put on a right guard,

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01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: to what degree is there going to be a position change?

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01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: There is? You have to learn you know, it's like

1170
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: going from meeting with your right hand to your left hand.

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01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: You know, we'll see if there's a learning curve there.

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01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: But you know, these are guys we're sighting. It's not

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01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: like DJ Humphreys who came in as a young rookie

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01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: and obviously wasn't equipped to play his first year in

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01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: the NFL. Just in terms of maturity and being a professional.

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01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are you know, I've spent four

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01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,959
Speaker 1: or five years in the college game, so I think

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01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: it bolsters their chance to perhaps compete for playing time

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01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: in addition to the Cardinals needs. So we'll see. But

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01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: was it weird not to have a first round pick?

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01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: By the way, is it weird too, just not to

1182
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: have this? To me? Yeah, but I mean, like who

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01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: you got? Its only they didn't do anything. No, no,

1184
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm not trying. I'm not. I wouldn't downplay it by saying,

1185
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, they screwed something up. It's just it's for me,

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01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,959
Speaker 1: it's weird going out to rookie minicamp. I mean that's

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01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: that's always the thing. Like you have the draft, you

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01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: have a first round press press conference. More than what

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01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown did. It's a whole thing. And then when

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01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: you come out to rookie minicamp, that first day of

1191
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: practice is always okay, the story is the first round pick.

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01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: How that first day go. And we really don't have that.

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01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess we'll do it with Trey McBride,

1194
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: but just seems weird. How old is Hollywood Brown? By

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01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: the way, he's twenty five, right, He's still right there

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01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: in that in that age range. So there you know,

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01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: there you go. By the way, speaking of young, how

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01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: about some of the Cardinals assistant coaches who are promoted,

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01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: whether it's a Spencer Whipple or a Cam Turner now

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01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: co pass game coordinators. And then Sewn Jefferson associate head coach.

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01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: Isn't Sean Coogler associate head coach as well? Are there

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01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: two of those as well? Or no, it's Jeff Rodgers

1203
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: is the assistant head coach. That's it. Assistant head coach

1204
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: for Jeff Rogers and Jefferson is an associated associate head coach. Okay,

1205
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: see I needed that clarification. That's good, Dre, that's good. So,

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01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's that's cool for Sean Jefferson. Again,

1207
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: I think that's another step towards when you're trying to

1208
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: get minorities opportunities to do more stuff in terms of

1209
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: what they do on the staff. And I think it's

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01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: also a little bit under the radar. Last year they

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01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: made Coogler the run game coordinator. I think the fact

1212
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: that there are now co pass game coordinators. Everybody wants

1213
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: to talk about how Cliff Kingsbury doesn't have an offensive coordinator. Well,

1214
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: it may be three headed, but he essentially has an

1215
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Now by the way, you know Spencer Whipple,

1216
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: the play caller in that Cleveland game. That's still one

1217
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: of the highlights of the year and the way the

1218
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: Cardinals offense functioned when Cliff Kingsbury is out with COVID

1219
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: and couldn't even sit there and watch the game because

1220
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: he's like, I need to be doing something. I can't

1221
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: just sit here like a fan. And then he started

1222
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: breaking down film with a Cardinal's next opponent while the

1223
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: actually playing against Cleveland in that and one of the

1224
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: bigger wins of the year. So, uh, you know that

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01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: that was interesting. So what else? And I'm looking here

1226
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: at what else we need to cover on this edition

1227
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: of Cardinals. So it's been a big one. I think

1228
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: we probably need to wrap this up. Danny needs to

1229
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: go visit video stuff. Oh here's what I had. This

1230
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: is what I had to duck in. Did you see

1231
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: Jim Ersey is donating the Fender Mustang Electric guitar used

1232
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: by Kurt Cobain and the smells like Teen Spirit music video.

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01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: He's a huge guitar collector and he has one of

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01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: the most desirable guitars of all time, and so he's

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01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: donating it to a mental health awareness campaign to raise money.

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01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: They're going to auction it off. He said, By the way,

1237
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: I don't plan on losing that guitar the opening bid.

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01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: I've already made it two million dollars. Jim Rsey, the

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01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 1: Colts owner, nice to have that kind of money. But

1240
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: and by the way, I guess Kurt Cobain's family and

1241
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: all that support of the move. And they threw other

1242
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: items in from the Cobain a state into the auction block, etc.

1243
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: So there you go, the iconic. Are you familiar with

1244
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: that video? Danny? By the way, this smells like Teen Spirit.

1245
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: I know the song, but I'm not familiar with the video.

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01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. She's got bowling on her mind, right now

1247
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: she's got to go bowling. Not sure if I should. Uh.

1248
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,439
Speaker 1: By the way, Hollywood, Brown's gonna be twenty five next

1249
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: month on June fourth. That is the answer to that question.

1250
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: The same age as Danny. So cute you think? So

1251
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: do I look twenty five? You do to me? Cool?

1252
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: Thank you, I'm I'm partially offended that you haven't seen

1253
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: the Kurt Cobain video, so there'll be no platitudes coming

1254
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: from yours truly. As we wrap up this edition a

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Underground brought to you by Pacific Office Automation. Its

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Speaker 1: deflating