Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from
Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joint as always
Speaker 1: by my partner and Everything Packers, Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming
Speaker 1: to you here from the Potawatami Sportsbook Studio inside the
Speaker 1: walls of Lambeufield, and we're here west to preview preseason
Speaker 1: game number two. A few hours after we shut the
Speaker 1: cameras off here will be headed to the airport for
Speaker 1: the trip to Denver, second preseason game of the summer.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna throw it out there as an open
Speaker 1: ended question to you to begin the discussion. What do
Speaker 1: you want to see in Denver on Friday night?
Speaker 2: I want to see Jordan Love and the offense go
Speaker 2: down the field, maybe a nice seven to eight play drive,
Speaker 2: finish it with a touchdown, get back on the sidelines. Yeah,
Speaker 2: take the shoulder pads off and call it a night.
Speaker 2: But that sounds like a good plan to me, And honestly,
Speaker 2: there was a lot to like about the performs in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: They did move the ball. That was a big conversion
Speaker 2: with the pass to Jaden Reid. Obviously it kind of
Speaker 2: slowed down there as it crept near the red zone.
Speaker 2: But overall, I think Matt Lafleur made it clear they
Speaker 2: want to get the first team offense and defense. They
Speaker 2: want to get them some reps, they want to get
Speaker 2: them some snaps. There's some data on science behind it
Speaker 2: in terms of the output they're looking for maybe how
Speaker 2: it helps not only with fast, fast start to the
Speaker 2: regular season, but also potentially maybe on the injury prevention front.
Speaker 2: But be that as it may, I mean, ultimately, you
Speaker 2: look at what has happened this past week, Mike. We
Speaker 2: just got done covering that practice on Wednesday, and the
Speaker 2: Packers were fortunate in that they are down to two
Speaker 2: guys that aren't on an injured reserve or a reserve
Speaker 2: list right now. That miss practice. That's just Javon Bullard,
Speaker 2: who's working through this foot issue and Darren Canard who
Speaker 2: rolled his ankle last week in Pittsburgh. That's the healthiest
Speaker 2: they've been all camped. Yep. So yes, you want to
Speaker 2: continue to stack days. You want to get some more
Speaker 2: clar already these position competitions. But if Green Bay can
Speaker 2: stay on the front end here of this injury thing,
Speaker 2: I think that also puts them in a good spot.
Speaker 2: Because every single day Mike Peru's x Twitter, you know,
Speaker 2: go on NFL dot com, ESPN dot com. You're seeing
Speaker 2: season ending injuries. You're seeing guys are gonna be out
Speaker 2: for extended period of time. We saw what happened with
Speaker 2: Jamal Adams in Minnesota. Guys have taken some pretty big
Speaker 2: hits across the league. So if the Packers can get
Speaker 2: to the start line here with most of their dudes,
Speaker 2: I think that is gonna be the big the biggest
Speaker 2: key to getting off to a fast start, especially during
Speaker 2: that stretch without Micah Parsons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and as somebody who likes to follow the Ted
Speaker 1: Thompson mantra of bubble wrapping guys to protect them for
Speaker 1: the regular season. On the defensive side, I would just
Speaker 1: as soon see the defense get another three and out
Speaker 1: and get the starters off the field. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know what Matt Lafleur's plan is, if he has
Speaker 1: a certain number of snaps in mind, or if it's
Speaker 1: just one series each side like it was last week.
Speaker 1: We will see a few guys who are starters. We
Speaker 1: don't know if they're going to play in Denver or not.
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs just got back into practice this week, but
Speaker 1: he's not doing eleven on eleven yet, so I would
Speaker 1: think that's highly unlikely. Aaron Banks, Javon Hargrave, those guys
Speaker 1: are just getting into eleven on eleven this week. So
Speaker 1: will they be out there and for any preseason action
Speaker 1: hard to say, So we'll just have to follow that
Speaker 1: and see how it goes. For me. I look at
Speaker 1: this game, and I guess it's the framework that I
Speaker 1: use for preseason game number two is there are things
Speaker 1: that I'd like to see happen again that happened in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: and then there are things I'd like to see that
Speaker 1: we didn't see at all in Pittsburgh in the first one.
Speaker 1: So as far as the repeat type of things, I
Speaker 1: look at Tray Smack and what he did in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Kyle McCord locking down the number three quarterback job. As
Speaker 1: Kyron Drones got released after the Steelers game, can Kyle
Speaker 1: McCord stack performances and build on what he did? Some
Speaker 1: of the guys on defense who are not starters, but
Speaker 1: maybe they're going to have a role rotationally for Jonathan
Speaker 1: Gannon guys like Brenton Cox and katano Oladappa who got
Speaker 1: sacks in Pittsburgh. Can they build on those performances? Can
Speaker 1: they do it again and keep stacking things together? Those
Speaker 1: are the things, as far as the repeat performances that
Speaker 1: I'd like to see. And of course the real curiosity
Speaker 1: with tray Smack is at altitude, at you know, mile high.
Speaker 1: Just how long is his range and will he get
Speaker 1: an opportunity for maybe one of those true monster kicks.
Speaker 1: We'll just have to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was asked about it in the locker room
Speaker 2: on Wednesday. He also mentioned He's like, well, I think
Speaker 2: I can probably go between sixty five and seventy, but
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go out there and try.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna wear my leg out doing.
Speaker 2: That, right, But I'll tell you this, the two fifty
Speaker 2: eight yarders in Pittsburgh, I'm guessing those things would have
Speaker 2: kept flying if you were in Denver with those with
Speaker 2: those you know hits. I mean the guy, as I've
Speaker 2: said time and time again, I mean when when people
Speaker 2: look at why the Packers made this move, it's just
Speaker 2: it's the natural leg talent. It's the fact that this guy,
Speaker 2: rather effortlessly, least to the novice eye like me, he
Speaker 2: goes out there and he kicks a fluid, procedural football.
Speaker 2: It doesn't look like he's hop skipping and jumping into
Speaker 2: that thing to get it to go sixty yards. So
Speaker 2: and one question I'd asked him too, and I think
Speaker 2: this is something worth repeating and worth talking about, is
Speaker 2: you know, he's now also had three and a half
Speaker 2: months of working with Daniel Whelan as his holder, and
Speaker 2: the last few weeks obviously cal Adamitis is the long snapper.
Speaker 2: At some point here, it appears in the next week
Speaker 2: Matt Orzick will be back, So we'll see how the
Speaker 2: Packers handle all of that. But the fact is is
Speaker 2: that you could see a young man gaining comfort, and
Speaker 2: for the packer's sake, what they have to hope is
Speaker 2: with three weeks whatever it is now until that opener
Speaker 2: in Minnesota, he's going to eventually hit a crescendo here.
Speaker 2: Feel like he's in a good place entering the regular season.
Speaker 2: But the talent and everything you want from a six
Speaker 2: round pick is there. And to the other half of
Speaker 2: the equation too, being able to go to Denver another
Speaker 2: road environment, not just because I mean, obviously it's not
Speaker 2: gonna be sixty thousand screaming fans. But it's going through
Speaker 2: the process of getting ready for the game. It's going
Speaker 2: through the warm ups, Understanding now stadiums that you haven't
Speaker 2: kicked in before like that, that's going to be critical
Speaker 2: to this whole process. So I'm very excited to see
Speaker 2: where it goes, and hopefully for Smack's case, putting the
Speaker 2: best foot forward last week in Pittsburgh, you can take
Speaker 2: that next step in Denver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point you make about a rookie
Speaker 1: kicker having to learn all of these stadiums. There's a
Speaker 1: there's a pregame process, not just to getting out there
Speaker 1: and getting the leg warmed up, but understanding, Okay, where's
Speaker 1: the wind coming from, how does it move in this stadium,
Speaker 1: What's it going to do when I kick to this
Speaker 1: end zone versus that end zone. All of that is
Speaker 1: new to a rookie kicker in terms of the stadiums
Speaker 1: that he's going to be performing in.
Speaker 2: So some of the kickers I talked to in the
Speaker 2: past two remember Georgia Tevekio, you got to think of
Speaker 2: it like a golfer that if you're really good golfer,
Speaker 2: you're gonna go out there and I know I've seen
Speaker 2: you play. You can go out there and swing away
Speaker 2: and have success on a golf course, but it's when
Speaker 2: you actually go rep after round after round that you
Speaker 2: start to get at least maybe not mastering it like Lambellfield,
Speaker 2: but at least you have a little bit better background
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, when it comes to the things in Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: that we didn't see that I think, at least from
Speaker 1: my perspective, that I would like to see for me,
Speaker 1: it starts with number two quarterback Tyrod Taylor. It felt
Speaker 1: like he just never really settled in in Pittsburgh. You know,
Speaker 1: there were some protection issues, the offense just wasn't in rhythm.
Speaker 1: He was doing the best he could out there, and
Speaker 1: we'll see maybe he gets, you know, a longer stretch
Speaker 1: of playing time in this one, since there are only
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks to get in the game, not four. But
Speaker 1: we know what Tyrod Taylor can do. We've seen it
Speaker 1: on the practice field when he really cuts it loose,
Speaker 1: you know, plays with that fearless edge of all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna let it rip and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let my guys make plays. That's the Tyrod Taylor I
Speaker 1: want to see out on the field in Denver because
Speaker 1: he just didn't get to that point in Pittsburgh, and
Speaker 1: I think it set off some alarm bells amongst the
Speaker 1: fan base, and everybody's wondering, oh, well, then will Kyle
Speaker 1: McCord be the number two? Because look how great he looked? Well,
Speaker 1: trust us, I mean Tyrod Taylor has looked really good
Speaker 1: in practice for the most part. I mean the defense
Speaker 1: is gonna make their share of plays too. It just
Speaker 1: didn't quite translate into that first preseason game when this
Speaker 1: is his first time running Mattlefleur's offense and there's all
Speaker 1: kinds of moving parts. So I think there's there's a
Speaker 1: little bit of a brighter spotlight on the Packers number
Speaker 1: two quarterback here to really get settled in. And again,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have another game. The starters won't have the
Speaker 1: Arizona game, but the rest of the guys will have
Speaker 1: the third preseason game against Arizona next week as well.
Speaker 1: But it'd be nice to see Taylor kind of take
Speaker 1: a step forward here.
Speaker 2: I wanted to see one more series out of him
Speaker 2: in Pitts. I thought did he go too?
Speaker 3: Was it two?
Speaker 1: I think I think it was I can't right have
Speaker 1: to look it up to be certain either way.
Speaker 2: I mean Kyle McCord finished the first half. I mean
Speaker 2: that that's how quick that was. I was thinking maybe
Speaker 2: we would see Taylor for a little bit more of
Speaker 2: an extended time there, even with the competition brewing for
Speaker 2: that QB three spot, because you assumed you know your
Speaker 2: drones well in this case now would be McCord, Like
Speaker 2: he's Kyle McCord's going to play a lot in that
Speaker 2: preseason finale. We already know that. Well, we'll see what
Speaker 2: happens to night. Now, maybe the Packers wanted, knowing that
Speaker 2: they wanted to get down to three quarterbacks, they maybe
Speaker 2: wanted to get McCord out there and then see what
Speaker 2: drones could do depending on what McCord did. That makes
Speaker 2: total sense. Obviously, thirty seven years young, Tyrod Taylor is
Speaker 2: a known commodity at this point, you kind of know
Speaker 2: what you're going to see from him. We've obviously seen
Speaker 2: it and stretches here during training camp. So but yeah,
Speaker 2: I would like to see him get that work because one,
Speaker 2: obviously there's something to be said for just having your
Speaker 2: number two guy ready and this in if everything goes
Speaker 2: accord play. This will be the only time that Tyrod
Speaker 2: Taylor plays meaningful snaps this season, right, unless it's a
Speaker 2: Week eighteen type deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's the hope.
Speaker 2: But you also want to be able to get the
Speaker 2: reps for the guys around him.
Speaker 3: I said.
Speaker 2: One of the intriguing things, and it was one of
Speaker 2: the great things about having Malik Willis is when you
Speaker 2: have a competent starting caliber or guy that's definitely done
Speaker 2: at that level, you know, option at quarterback with the twos,
Speaker 2: that gives you a better read of the running backs,
Speaker 2: That gives you a better read of the tight ends
Speaker 2: and the receivers, and in some cases probably can give
Speaker 2: you a better read of the offensive line too, depending
Speaker 2: on you know, the type of pocket they're giving him
Speaker 2: and how he's utilizing it. Right. So I want to
Speaker 2: see that in what Green Bay can do. I'd love
Speaker 2: to see an extended drive for that two offense, and
Speaker 2: certainly when you look at the second half, just finding
Speaker 2: a way for the young guys on this roster to finish,
Speaker 2: to finish strong.
Speaker 1: That was the next thing I was going to bring up,
Speaker 1: is when you talk about the second half of the
Speaker 1: game in Pittsburgh, there were a lot of things going
Speaker 1: wrong on both sides of the ball. You know, when
Speaker 1: Kyron Drones went in to quarterback on offense, it was
Speaker 1: kind of a jail break with regard to the protection.
Speaker 1: He didn't really have a chance back there. Defensively, Drew Aller,
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh rookie quarterback from Penn State, was putting on
Speaker 1: a show. The Packers defense in the second half of
Speaker 1: that game just didn't put up enough resistance at all.
Speaker 1: It was a real struggle out there. I don't want
Speaker 1: to put anybody on blast here individually, but there were
Speaker 1: a lot of guys who are up against it here.
Speaker 1: They're fighting for roster spots. This is you know, they're
Speaker 1: battling for their NFL livelihood here, and a lot of
Speaker 1: those guys did not put a lot of good stuff
Speaker 1: on film in Pittsburgh, and they need to bounce back.
Speaker 1: They need to They need to try to start stating
Speaker 1: a better case to the personnel department that whether it's
Speaker 1: for the fifty three or for the practice squad, that
Speaker 1: they're worth keeping around and seeing, as you said, a
Speaker 1: better finish to the game with whoever is out there.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying they need to dominate the game,
Speaker 1: but you at least have to be able to hold
Speaker 1: your own against the same guys on the other squad
Speaker 1: who were in the same position as you. We didn't
Speaker 1: see that last week in Pittsburgh, and I think we
Speaker 1: hope to see it in Denver.
Speaker 2: And if I was the Packers again, we saw Ryan
Speaker 2: Longwell come in and talk with Tray Smack a little
Speaker 2: bit two weeks ago. I would call up Justin McCrae
Speaker 2: and I would have him and come to, you know,
Speaker 2: do a speech to the guys, because, like as I
Speaker 2: wrote Insider Inbox, the year that McCray made the roster
Speaker 2: in seventeen and ended up pushing for a starting spot
Speaker 2: straight away, he played over two hundred snaps in the preseason.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. There were four games.
Speaker 3: There were four games. That's fifty snaps a game.
Speaker 1: That's incredible.
Speaker 2: There were a couple of them, want to say, there
Speaker 2: was two of them where I think he played start
Speaker 2: to finish, just at different positions. That's how Justin McCrae
Speaker 2: made the Packers fifty three man roster. It wasn't based
Speaker 2: on a projection or hey he was a draft pick,
Speaker 2: or hey, you know, we saw enoughter in the first
Speaker 2: two series. We'll see what happens. Actually, no, justin McCrae
Speaker 2: single time he was out there, had to earn a
Speaker 2: spot on that roster and ultimately, you know, turn into
Speaker 2: a really good pro in a versatile guy not only
Speaker 2: in Green Bay but in some other stops. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: all this stuff fits together. And if you want to
Speaker 2: know what it's like, I mean the Packers they're going
Speaker 2: to cut the roster here mic in ten days or
Speaker 2: whatever it is. Yeah, they're gonna go from ninety one
Speaker 2: players on this roster to fifty three, forty eight of
Speaker 2: which will be active on game day and then a
Speaker 2: smathering of others who will finish out the practice squad.
Speaker 2: If you want to be among those fifty three, it's
Speaker 2: all to play for in these In these two preseason
Speaker 2: games next week in the joint practice with Arizona, you
Speaker 2: have a chance to really show yourself and show what
Speaker 2: you can do. So I've always said this, it's about
Speaker 2: making yourself undeniable this time of years. It's one thing
Speaker 2: to be a draft pick, it's one thing to get
Speaker 2: a benefit of the doubt, but a lot of times
Speaker 2: it's when the Chris Banjos show up and push the
Speaker 2: entire group that you end up seeing a position battle
Speaker 2: not just in theory be competitive, but in actuality seeing
Speaker 2: it play out.
Speaker 3: On the field.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Packers Unscripted previewing preseason Game number two
Speaker 1: in Denver, West. I want to build a little bit
Speaker 1: on what we I believe we finished our last show
Speaker 1: talking about this competition that is going on at defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: The Packers know Davante Wyatt, Javon Hargrave, the veteran Carl Brooks.
Speaker 1: Those guys have been you know, when they've been in
Speaker 1: the eleven on eleven they pretty much been with the ones.
Speaker 1: But there's this color of guys now, Jonathan Ford, Anthony
Speaker 1: Campbell and the zir Stackhouse, Warren Brinson, Chris mcclell and
Speaker 1: the rookie third round pick. There isn't room for all
Speaker 1: of them on the fifty three. I mean that the is,
Speaker 1: and you could make a case that at different times
Speaker 1: in training camp, each one of them has shown that
Speaker 1: they might belong on an NFL fifty three, whether it's
Speaker 1: in Green Bay or elsewhere. The way this is shaping up,
Speaker 1: and we will see what happens in Denver, because there
Speaker 1: can always be something happens that, you know, somebody makes
Speaker 1: a couple of plays and somebody else, you know, has
Speaker 1: an off night where you get some separation here amongst
Speaker 1: these guys. To me, this feels like it's shaping up
Speaker 1: where the most difficult roster decisions are going to be
Speaker 1: at that position, because big guys don't grow on trees,
Speaker 1: and so anybody who has shown something on preseason film
Speaker 1: looks like they could be a player at the three
Speaker 1: hundred and ten three hundred twenty three hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: pound range. Those big guys in the middle of the
Speaker 1: defensive line, those guys can be better than what other
Speaker 1: teams have, and they're gonna make waiver claims when those
Speaker 1: guys are available. So to me, it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: very very interesting process the decision making at defensive tackle,
Speaker 1: and we'll see if we get some separation in that
Speaker 1: regard my East preseason game.
Speaker 2: My years perked up when we were talking to Jonathan
Speaker 2: Ford on Wednesday win in the locker room when he said,
Speaker 2: this is probably the most competitive room I've been in,
Speaker 2: and I stopped for a second. I'm like, Jonathan's been
Speaker 2: in some pretty darn good d line rooms here in
Speaker 2: Green Bay. It was one of the reasons he had
Speaker 2: such trouble the first three years getting onto the field
Speaker 2: was how competitive these defensive lines have been. I also
Speaker 2: have this little bit of a joke that I've been
Speaker 2: saying to myself of if you ever want to keep
Speaker 2: a position group healthy, just switch Jonathan Ford to that
Speaker 2: spot if you want to make.
Speaker 1: Sure, because he's been he's never been able to, you know,
Speaker 1: to break through because nobody in front of him ever
Speaker 1: gets hurt.
Speaker 2: He mentioned that too about Kenny Clark. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: when I was here with Key, I mean, you're gonna
Speaker 2: take Kenny Clark off the field put me in. I mean,
Speaker 2: like it just is impossible. So but what I love
Speaker 2: about him in particular, this dude is six foot five,
Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty eight pounds and he is not
Speaker 2: a big just kind of he wears his weight. Well yeah,
Speaker 2: just when I want to make sure I say this
Speaker 2: the right's He's a massive human being and for the
Speaker 2: Packers that was one of the things that drew him
Speaker 2: them to him when they drafted him in the seventh
Speaker 2: round back in twenty twenty two. He had to bounce
Speaker 2: around that. The weird thing is, though Jonathan Ford, I
Speaker 2: think has only truly been cut like one time, and
Speaker 2: obviously he was with the Bears for a little bit.
Speaker 2: They let him go, the Packers claimed his contract. They
Speaker 2: brought him back when they were really beat up defensive line,
Speaker 2: and he finally got a chance to play for Green
Speaker 2: Bay after you know, being here for two and a
Speaker 2: half years the first time around. So ask Matt LeFleur
Speaker 2: about that. He mentioned he loves the maturity of him.
Speaker 2: He feels like he's he's matured both as a player
Speaker 2: and a person. I think you see a difference out there.
Speaker 2: I was quoted on Twitter as saying, I think there's
Speaker 2: a little bit more game. You're seeing him with some
Speaker 2: of the running backs and he's using his power. Now
Speaker 2: it's been a couple of times that some rbs have
Speaker 2: ended up on the ground just based on Hey, Jonathan's
Speaker 2: finishing the play. So I'm excited to see what he
Speaker 2: can do with it. The guy is getting first team reps.
Speaker 2: This is gonna be a critical stretch for him the
Speaker 2: last two weeks and his ear Stackhouse has done it
Speaker 2: at a high level. He earned the spot last year
Speaker 2: as an undrafted rookie to keep that streak going for
Speaker 2: Green Bay. And then you look probably a little bit
Speaker 2: more in terms of the investment side of things. I
Speaker 2: think Chris McClellan and Warren Brinson are both in a
Speaker 2: position to help this team this year. I agree McClellan
Speaker 2: has come in and looks the part. I mean, he
Speaker 2: is a different type of body type at that position.
Speaker 2: He's not as big as a Jonathan Ford, but my goodness,
Speaker 2: the guy just knows leverage, he knows pad level and.
Speaker 3: It's not a mistake.
Speaker 2: It's not a coincidence that he had as many sacks
Speaker 2: and TFLs and everything at Missouri as he did.
Speaker 1: He's sort of a slightly taller Mike Daniels. That's exactly
Speaker 1: what I think he's not as he's not as squatty,
Speaker 1: and I mean that, and I'll due respect to Mike,
Speaker 1: who's a great friend of ours. He's not as squatty
Speaker 1: as Mike Daniels, but he's just he's just a little
Speaker 1: bit taller. But yet there's some similarities.
Speaker 2: And I don't want Mike to punch me in the
Speaker 2: face for saying this, and he may, but Mike Daniels
Speaker 2: made himself into a Pro Bowl defensive lineman, and I
Speaker 2: think if he had a little bit more of the size,
Speaker 2: he could have been an all pro. Right, he did everything,
Speaker 2: He got everything out.
Speaker 3: Of his body type. I totally agree to play that.
Speaker 2: Position at the high level that he did for ten years. McClellan, though,
Speaker 2: is thicker. He's naturally heavier, and to your point, for
Speaker 2: a guy that I think is listed at sixty two
Speaker 2: or sixty three, he just is. He has a way
Speaker 2: of getting underneath the pads of offensive linemen. So I'm
Speaker 2: excited to see what he has that mix. I think
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a very interesting contrast there to Wyatt
Speaker 2: to Brooks and you know also to Javon Hargrave, who
Speaker 2: is a guy that has sort of taken him under
Speaker 2: his wing as well. Hargrave comes back in the teamwork
Speaker 2: this week, comes back into one on ones. He looks
Speaker 2: like he still has plenty to offer at thirty three
Speaker 2: and then once again, Wyatt was extended this offseason. They
Speaker 2: view him as the cornerstone to this whole thing. Packers
Speaker 2: have a lot of options up front, and I feel
Speaker 2: like now that they're making this transition, however, many plays
Speaker 2: they play of bass or however many times they use
Speaker 2: a three interior defensive line front. There's just so many
Speaker 2: different looks that they can present a defense right now
Speaker 2: with whomever survives on that fifty three come week one.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I want to get one last thought
Speaker 1: and it can be a quick hitter if you want.
Speaker 3: Is there anything about me that's a quick hitter?
Speaker 1: Usually that's okay, Or we can expound something that you
Speaker 1: want to see in Pittsburgh. And I'm gonna start because Denver.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, what about Denver. That's right, that's where
Speaker 1: the plane is going to. We're going west. Not easy.
Speaker 3: You just want to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, head back there again. For me, it's I would
Speaker 1: like to see and this is almost it's not for
Speaker 1: my benefit, it's it's sort of for the fan base's
Speaker 1: benefit because of all the questions that we get in
Speaker 1: insider inbox about this. I want to see one explosive
Speaker 1: play from Marshawn Lloyd.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just so so.
Speaker 1: That the fans can see what we see on the
Speaker 1: practice field and what we know he's got and the
Speaker 1: fact that he got back into action against Pittsburgh his
Speaker 1: first game in basically a year, only his second game
Speaker 1: in two years because of getting injured in the Indianapolis
Speaker 1: preseason game last year. There's so much there for him.
Speaker 1: I don't and as I said before, I don't think
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs is going to play in this game. I
Speaker 1: think Lloyd is going to be in there with the starters,
Speaker 1: and whether it's on a running play, whether it's on
Speaker 1: a swing pass, I would like to see one explosive
Speaker 1: play from Marshall Lloyd so all the fans watching it
Speaker 1: at home can go, oh, that's what these guys keep
Speaker 1: talking about. So that's my last thought for today.
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that because I think with his
Speaker 2: shiftiness underneath, if he breaks in the open field and
Speaker 2: his explosiveness from there. He's a guy that can take
Speaker 2: it to the house on any given play for me.
Speaker 2: Do you remember when we talked to Jonathan Gannon earlier
Speaker 2: this week, he talked about too many explosive plays a lot.
Speaker 2: But that was the second thing that was quickly off
Speaker 2: his tongue right after that, takeaways. We need more takeaways.
Speaker 2: He wants to see takeaways. We've seen plenty of guys
Speaker 2: get interceptions in practice. We saw it on Wednesday with
Speaker 2: Kamal Hadden coming back off that fractured fibula. He's able
Speaker 2: to go out there and make a play playing the
Speaker 2: nickel for the first time in his career. Now, I
Speaker 2: don't know if Kamal is going to go or not.
Speaker 2: I don't know who's all going to be out there,
Speaker 2: but finding some of those opportunities for a young defensive player,
Speaker 2: preferably even a defensive back, seeing somebody kind of grab
Speaker 2: the brass ring there because there's so many different options
Speaker 2: at cornerback, there's so many guys competing for spots at safety.
Speaker 2: The fact that a guy like Mark Perry has worked
Speaker 2: his way into that conversation after much like Anthony Campbell
Speaker 2: being this late arrival in twenty twenty five and now
Speaker 2: suddenly he's still here in August pushing for a spot.
Speaker 2: I want to see not only obviously the reduction of
Speaker 2: the explosive plays for the Broncos, but finding a way
Speaker 2: to take that ball away because when you think about
Speaker 2: the things that really plagued the Packers defense last year,
Speaker 2: I think we kind of not just us, but I
Speaker 2: think everybody in general puts a lot of it on.
Speaker 2: While they lost Michael Parsons in Week thirteen, but there
Speaker 2: was a lot of football games before then. The Packers
Speaker 2: were struggling to take the football away before then. You
Speaker 2: have to be able to get those opportunities and seize them,
Speaker 2: because there were opportunities. It's not like Green Bay was
Speaker 2: just not near the football last year, but they didn't
Speaker 2: have enough people grabbing it.
Speaker 1: Yep, when you emphasize something, you need to get those results.
Speaker 1: You need to get what you emphasize, and that didn't
Speaker 1: translate for Green Bay in twenty twenty five, and defensively
Speaker 1: it needs to translate in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you this man like Zavier McKinney made pretty
Speaker 2: much the most of his shots.
Speaker 3: Last year, there was a couple.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he wanted back, but the teams adjusted how
Speaker 2: they attack the Packers' defense with Xavier McKinney on the
Speaker 2: back end, with Evan Williams on the back end. Williams
Speaker 2: still end up, I think having three interceptions of leading
Speaker 2: them in that category when other guys have those chances.
Speaker 2: If they're going to push on other parts of the defense,
Speaker 2: you have to be able to seize that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to cash in for sure. With that,
Speaker 1: we'll call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted.
Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage continuing of
Speaker 1: training camp as well as the preseason game in Denver
Speaker 1: on Friday.
Speaker 3: Night for Wes I am Lake.
Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in everybody.
Speaker 3: We will