1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: In the dead of the night, when the world is sleeping. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Real America's Voice is live this Monday two am Eastern 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: History takes flight. Donald J. Trump arrives in Israel, leading 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: a high stakes mission for peace and the long awaited 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: release of hostages after months of war and heartbreak, a breakthrough, 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: a ceasefire, hostage releases, and the first steps towards a 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: lasting Jerusalem Accord. Steve Bannon leads Real America's Voice live coverage, 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: joined by powerful voices from Jerusalem as the world watches 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: this historic. 10 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: Hostas have now been released as the President Ruskin has 11 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: a pretty good timing. 12 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 3: I'm sid wants to worry you say no, why not trying. 13 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 4: To hundred weeks about time I. 14 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: Want to talk about Yeah. 15 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 5: I mean I like you well, Worris. 16 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 4: D rgo. 17 00:01:53,040 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 6: How are you having just set break the fee sat. 18 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: Pleasure to see you. 19 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 7: We got the United. 20 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: States and the Prime Minister. They come in, they get 21 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: some mics up. I don't know, President trumple duel, gaggle. 22 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: Any stuff over here? 23 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 4: FA the bubble tous Sure ye. 24 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 6: Should get out the. 25 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: Guys. 26 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 7: This is where the winds didn't win up that sera. 27 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: Jeff the massive proud to the right, still in Hotshe Square. 28 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 7: Pretty uh overwhelming, huge day. 29 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: Jerusalem Posts has a God Blessed the Peacemaker, huge front 30 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: page picture of President Trump. 31 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 7: So as you can tell, he's. 32 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: Gone next level with the Israeli people, particularly people on 33 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: the left that didn't really, I think, appreciate President Trump 34 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: until he put it the full force of his office 35 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: and his personality into this. We're waiting the rival of 36 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: the commander in chief here. Momentarily, they're pretty much on schedule. 37 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 2: We now have heard that I guess all twenty of 38 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: the hostages have been released. There's the Jerusalem Place tire. 39 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: Look at that entire front page of the Jerusalem Post. 40 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: God blessed the Peacemaker President of amazing photo of President 41 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: Trump almost looks like his mugshot, which is probably the 42 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: greatest photo it's ever been taken of him. But it 43 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: shows you how far President Trump from trying to be 44 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: destroyed by the deep State and now actually bringing peace 45 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: at least on some sort of beginning basis or framework 46 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: for it in probably one of the most contentious parts 47 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 2: of the world. Whereas President Trump said, they've been fighting 48 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: each other for three thousand years. We're waiting his arrival, 49 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: the Prime Minister's already in. I think this, Kurt Mills, 50 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: I think this speech to the Kanesset is not going 51 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: to be one of President Trump's one hour I'm not 52 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: so sure he's gonna be going off the glass or 53 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: off the prepared remarks. I think this will probably be 54 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: twenty to thirty minutes. Your thoughts on that of what 55 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: he's going to address to the israel people, because there's 56 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: still a lot of moving pieces to this deal. 57 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not sure how long it will be. I'm 58 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 6: not sure you'll hold them captives so to speech, so 59 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 6: to speak. But I think it's quite likely that he's 60 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 6: going to make some pretty bold pronouncements here. Yes, the 61 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 6: deal is the plane is being built as it is 62 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 6: being flown, so to speak. But that's sort of as 63 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 6: you know, how Trump does business and has done business 64 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 6: throughout his career. So if there's any odds and ends 65 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 6: on the debate, on the debate around the deal, if 66 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 6: he feels the deal could be undermined by any of 67 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 6: the parties, I think you may see oblique references to 68 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 6: parts of the agreement that he wants to see solidified. 69 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 6: And I think that's why it's so notable that he's 70 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 6: not just going to Israel, He's immediately going to Egypt. 71 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 6: He's immediately going to the Muslim world because he wants 72 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:50,239 Speaker 6: to square a huge deal on this. And I underscored before, 73 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 6: as I reiterated from before, he doesn't want to come 74 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 6: back to the Middle East a third time in the 75 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 6: calendar year. I don't think. I think he wants to 76 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 6: put a boat on this for now and then send 77 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 6: net Yahu to his constituents for an up or down 78 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 6: vote on his performance. It's not his affair, not his 79 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 6: problem anymore. Whether or not the Israeli side is going 80 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 6: to agree to that, I think remains an open question. 81 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 6: But I don't think he wants to see a war metastasized. 82 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 6: I don't think he wants to see a war open 83 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 6: up with Iran. There was very, very very interesting sub 84 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 6: element going on this weekend or early this week where 85 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 6: the President actually invited the Iranians to his big party 86 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 6: in Egypt. The Iranians, from my perspective, unfortunately declined because 87 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 6: they were bureaucratic with paranoid society somewhat justifiably on the ladder. 88 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 6: But that shows you that the White House's mood right 89 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 6: now is it might be autumn, but it's springtime for diplomacy. 90 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 6: Diplomacy by all appearances. 91 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 2: By the way, didn't I think that aren't the Persian 92 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: sending their foreign minister the president? 93 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 4: They're not. 94 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 7: But President, here comes the President of State. 95 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 8: Yea, this president speaker alone. Welcome to Jerusalem, Welcome to 96 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 8: the Knesset. We've been longing for this day's pleasure. 97 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: You guys know each other, you know. 98 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 9: Good? 99 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 7: Yes, please this week's president. 100 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: Okay, okay. 101 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: There's a tradition of signing the book when it comes 102 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: to the Knessic formal visit. President will sign it right now. 103 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: I think I saw Ambassador Monica Crowley in there a 104 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: moment ago. 105 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 3: Then here please here, let's try again out here please 106 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 3: to Abby Lighthouse. 107 00:10:39,559 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 4: That's what okay, what's said? That's a yeah, a yeah, 108 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 4: Amen to that happen about They will be your then 109 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 4: you gonna get I'm sure perfect in the lift days, 110 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 4: you got y telebate, You remember that, mister subject. 111 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 3: Do you ever remember me about you don't know, you 112 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: don't tell you you remember the other people don't know? 113 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 4: People think the one quick? How do you how you 114 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 4: kind of thank you. 115 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: President from the obligatory signing of the log that he's 116 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: been there with a greeting and the signature of only 117 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 2: President Trump uh Ben Harnwell, as we moved through here, 118 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think I'm reading too much 119 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: into it, but a little frosty between the Prime Minister 120 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: and in the President or I'm overreading this situation. 121 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 10: No, no, no, no. As enjoyable as it is to 122 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 10: watch the line of so many and the vassals lining up, 123 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 10: I think that was the speak of the parliament right 124 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 10: to speak of the knesseant who tried to crack a 125 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 10: joke saying I believe you to sort of you guys 126 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 10: know one another. Yeah, absolutely right, it was frosty after 127 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 10: signing the book. I noticed he didn't shake the hand 128 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 10: of the Prime Minister standing to his right either, So yeah, 129 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 10: there was somewhat of a scowl going on. 130 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 11: That was absolutely absolutely my reading of this as well. 131 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 10: We're going to find out, I suppose in due course 132 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 10: exactly what the conversations have been. But you know what 133 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 10: my summary of what we're seeing today is that my 134 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 10: would be this, it's the management of expectations. 135 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 11: Whether today is a success or not. It is perceived 136 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 11: as a success or not. That depends. 137 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 10: I think it will evolve entirely around the management of expectations. 138 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 10: So look, where we're celebrating the release of the hostages, 139 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 10: we're celebrating the confirmation of phase one. That is what 140 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 10: I would say requires our appreciation and our applause. If 141 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 10: we go beyond that, I think there might be potential 142 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 10: down the road for for for slight I don't know 143 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 10: invented Comma's disappointment, but these are stages that we're gonna 144 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 10: will take in due course. 145 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 11: Obviously, there's state of situation. 146 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 10: Is not gonna go away, and I think that's fundamentally 147 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 10: where the issues are. Can I close Steve before handing 148 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 10: back with you to saying this, I don't trust Boebe 149 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 10: and I don't trust Hamas either. 150 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 11: I don't trust either of them. 151 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 10: It's going to be in both of their interests, I 152 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 10: think to try to frustrate and and and great obstacles 153 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 10: to this. 154 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, hang on for a second. 155 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: You saw Avanka and Jared right in back of the press. 156 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: I think I saw Susie Wills too. It's interesting, Kurt 157 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: Mills that Marco's not there. Pete hex is not there. 158 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: It looks like the entourage is really wid cough, the 159 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: Jared and Avanka and Jared really and Widcock being the 160 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: lead negotiators here. I don't see a lot of other 161 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: of the president's cabinet or others with him. I believe 162 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: Monica Crowley, the Ambassador of Protocol, is there, but I 163 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: don't see any Marco Uh. I think that's I think 164 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: that's fairly of course, you get the press. Let's hear 165 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: the press. I want to hear the press shouted questions 166 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: as I always do. Let's go ahead and cut the 167 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: audio off. 168 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 6: Flying with what happened? 169 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,119 Speaker 12: So PLI with you with this army. 170 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 4: War over the law. 171 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 3: Thank you? 172 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: You know Joel Uh. People and I say it has 173 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: been quite concerned about the security around all this. And 174 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, I I don't. I think 175 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: this is way too confusing and way too looks like. 176 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:55,239 Speaker 7: Unmanageable. 177 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 4: I would. 178 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I just think there's too many people around, 179 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: too much media around. I don't get this coming into 180 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: Israel on the spur of the moment. Joe, you first, 181 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: and then Kurt, but I really we're just taking the 182 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: fee from people. But man, I just don't that right there, 183 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 2: look like they're just winging it. The make sure of 184 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: as that go along, Joe Gilbert your thoughts. 185 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you. 186 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 12: I'm very nervous when I see that many people crowded 187 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 12: around the president from so many different directions. Don't forget, 188 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 12: a lot of these people have weapons that are authorized 189 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 12: to have weapons, but who knows if you know, somebody 190 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 12: has a beef, you know, so I get a little 191 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 12: nervous when there's not enough space between the president and 192 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 12: a large crowd. What occurred to me just watching this 193 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 12: is this whole spectacle is based on misunderstanding. I recall that, 194 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 12: you know, I visited Israel and Gaza was a pretty 195 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 12: peaceful place at one time. But Israel gave up Gaza 196 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 12: to the PLO terror group under the guise of the 197 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 12: idea that peace would break out, that all they really 198 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 12: wanted was to have their own territory without Israelis and 199 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 12: there would be peace. And people cheered, and they had 200 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 12: the square, and they sang songs and they danced, and 201 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 12: immediately it just fell apart because the Israelis fundamentally did 202 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 12: not understand that the Islamic world and the Palestinian Arabs 203 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 12: did not want to accept Israel in any size or circumstance. 204 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 12: And I believe that attitude remains the same today and 205 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 12: that's what they're going to encounter in the future. But 206 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 12: it's all a result of this fundamental misunderstanding is why 207 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 12: they had the war and why Trump is even there today. 208 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 2: Ben Harnwell, I'll go to I'm gonna go to curtain 209 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: a second. But man, I didn't like what I just saw. 210 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 2: I'll be brutally frank with you. I would want to 211 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: sing much. I wanted high and tight when the president 212 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: shows up. Remember we went to the Middle East in 213 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: May of twenty seventeen. We worked on the security for 214 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: months and months and months. The president this decision just 215 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: made the other day. But I don't like the fact 216 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 2: you show up. You got all these people milling around, 217 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: You're doing all these activities, and you just walk into 218 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: a mob of reporters and a couple of microphones. 219 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 7: I see they cut that off. 220 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 2: But man, somebody's got to be you know, I think 221 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 2: somebody's got to say what is going on? And there's 222 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: been two assassination attempts on this guy. He's all we 223 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: got right, you don't have any no backup to him 224 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: if we lose Trump. Now, I got to tell you, 225 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: I'm very concerned and disappointed with what we've seen. I 226 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: just think it looks very shoddy ever since they got 227 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 2: to the Knesset, Ben Harnwell, Well, Steve, what's. 228 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 10: The underlying assumption here of what you're saying. Is it 229 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 10: not the illustration of the fact that even though we're 230 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 10: here today with all the crowds applauding that the piece 231 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 10: that has achieved so far, there is still the awareness 232 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 10: that there are with that, that there is the potential 233 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 10: that there will be agents who will try to frustrate this. 234 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 11: That's really the subtext of what you're saying, right, and that. 235 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 10: Just illustrates, I think how precarious the present position is. 236 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 10: And when you say there's no one who can replace 237 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 10: President and Trump, that's absolutely right. And he goes back 238 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 10: to what we're saying before that the feet of today, 239 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 10: the achievement of today is President Trump's success and his alone, 240 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 10: because of his force of will, his force of charisma, 241 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 10: and as you say, his force of personality, this is 242 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 10: his day. 243 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 11: And that of course makes us that that's why the. 244 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 10: Precariousness of this situation is there, because if he weren't there, 245 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 10: then the situation would rapidly dissolve once again. 246 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 11: And that's the subtext of what you're saying. 247 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 10: That's that's the importance of the security issue here, because 248 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 10: we all know, we all watching the feed here, we're 249 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 10: all sort of applauding and watching. We know that there 250 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 10: are that there's probably going to be some pockets somewhere 251 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 10: of people who will do what they can to frustrate this. 252 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 10: And I think that's the confirmation of that, right, the 253 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 10: fact that this this uneasiness, the uneasiness as you see 254 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 10: the chaos and the people meaning about milling in what 255 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 10: of course, the Israeli Parliament is going to be a 256 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 10: very highly secure zone anyway, so that this is even 257 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 10: within that environment, they could there could be malign forces 258 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 10: waiting to strike. It illustrates hyper care. 259 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: Just when he shows up. You know, it's not a 260 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 2: photo op for the press. By the way they cut 261 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 2: the feed. We're just taking the feed that they're providing. 262 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 2: You saw the feed right there was it was pretty chaotic, 263 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 2: maybe just a grunch of people around the president walking 264 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: down that red carpet going to what I guess were 265 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 2: microphones that were going to, I don't know, say a 266 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 2: few words and. 267 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 7: Have a press gaggle. I just don't think it's just 268 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 7: not the right time to do that. 269 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: President ought to get into the like he goes to 270 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: the capital of the United States. He ought to he 271 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 2: ought to show up, ought to be a formal greeting 272 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: for him, you know, signed the book. But then you're 273 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: taken to the to the back room. There's no kind 274 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 2: of milling around that hallway had out of the hallway, 275 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 2: had had you know, a thousand people look like just 276 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: kind of milling around, you know, wanting to see the 277 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 2: president and the media right there. So it's very uh, 278 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: you know, very I think you can say confusing. And 279 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 2: and when the President United States goes to a place 280 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: like Israel right now, and particularly Jerusalem, given the uh 281 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: you know, there's reports already in Gaza that you know, 282 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: some of the clans down there they're having some payback 283 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: already to people they say are collaborate, collaborated, uh with 284 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: the Israelis. 285 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 7: It's a it's a very volatile situation. 286 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: Uh. You know, we're a long way from peace. President 287 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: Trump has laid out the architecture and his force of 288 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: will has brought us to this to get the twenty 289 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: hostages released into into and to. 290 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 7: You know, start the process of peace. 291 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 2: But with all the celebration you've seen in this way, 292 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: I think we've had Joe Gilbert on for the last 293 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: couple of days. You've had these type of outpourings before 294 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: where people in Israel thought there was going to be 295 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 2: peace and it ended up not being peace. 296 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 7: Now, I don't think there's. 297 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: Ever been an outpointing around an individual like there is 298 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: around President Trump. It's just extraordinary how they are relating. 299 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 2: They're they're connecting President Trump to this day of getting 300 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: the hostages back, when even a couple of weeks ago, 301 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 2: when Netanya who went to the United Nations, looks. 302 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 7: Like the farthest thing from the from what was going 303 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 7: to happen. 304 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 2: Uh, Kurt Mills, your your thoughts on I'm pretty upset 305 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: about this thing in the Knesset. I just think it's unacceptable. 306 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 2: And you know, I put this on BB in his 307 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: government and also the interaction with the US government. But 308 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: when the president United States comes into essentially a warzone 309 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: and Israel is a war zone, you've had, as the 310 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 2: President said, not Steve Benn and President said sixty thousand 311 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: casualties in two years, you know, pretty extraordinary. Kurt Mills, 312 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: your thoughts on what we just saw at at the 313 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: beginning of the Kanessa, which I say was totally and 314 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 2: completely unacceptable. 315 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't deign to presume, but I would be 316 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 6: a little be a little surprised if the security was 317 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 6: this self evidently shotting on the Arab side. So we'll 318 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 6: see hopefully what that looks like in a few hours. 319 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 6: I do think it's interesting that he is traveling with 320 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 6: such a light and quick footprint, at least on the 321 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 6: front line. As you observed earlier. Rubio Hexeth and if 322 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 6: I may, Mosad Zone John Ratcliffe are not in the picture. Jess, 323 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 6: Jared and Ivanka and Steve Wikoff his close friend. That 324 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 6: indicates in my view that Trump had has kept this 325 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 6: pretty close ranks. This decision making. As you indicated before, 326 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 6: this seemed extremely unlikely during the un any of York 327 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 6: in late September, and I think the reality is in 328 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 6: people like to talk about structural forces of history. I 329 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 6: think this is a great man, so to speak, moment 330 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 6: of history. Trump made this decision himself, and he's going 331 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 6: with his family and close friends to try to get 332 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 6: this across the finished line. And I think you're right. 333 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 6: That was an icy reception from Benjamin net Yahoo in Sarat, Yaho. 334 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 6: You know, the Trump net Yahoo relationship is is certainly 335 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 6: worth a book. I think it's certainly worth it, certainly 336 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 6: more than meets the eye. Uht. Yahoo. Body language doesn't lie. 337 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 6: He doesn't look super happy. His people look happier than him. 338 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 4: Uh. 339 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 6: And this the production value on this is very fly 340 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 6: by the seat of the pants, right, And you know, 341 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 6: especially of everything that's going on, that's that's that's less 342 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 6: than adequate. And it implies, you know, I don't want 343 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 6: to speak too soon, but it implies a lack of 344 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 6: enthusiasm within the Israeli state itself for the end of 345 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 6: this war, even though I mean, look how desperate this 346 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 6: population is for the return of the of the hostages and. 347 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 4: For the end of the war. 348 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 6: It just it speaks to the sort of schizoid nature 349 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 6: of Israeli society, where the government is so much more 350 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 6: harder line, uh than that so many good people in 351 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 6: that country. 352 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: Well you see the outpouring from the Israeli people in 353 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: the in the square. Also the rest of the people 354 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: at the Kanessea greeting him were all smiles. And I 355 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 2: believe correct me if I'm wrong. President had just spent 356 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: forty five minutes in the in the beast in the 357 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 2: car from Ben Gurion. 358 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 7: Airport to the Kanessa with net Nyahu. 359 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: I mean they traveled together, and like I said, like 360 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: I asked Joel when they started off, I'd like to 361 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: be the fly on the you know, inside the car 362 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: to hear that conversation. Clearly it wasn't uh hail fellow 363 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: well met. The President had his game face on when 364 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 2: he showed up. I've seen that look before. That's not 365 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 2: a uh, that's not the embulent you know, President Trump. 366 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 2: Then we got a shot inside the Kinessa right now. 367 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 3: Uh. 368 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 2: But bb clearly was icy. And you said he didn't 369 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: shake his hand after he signed the book. He specifically 370 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: went and shook the Was it the speaker of the 371 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: Knesse's hand? 372 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 4: Uh? 373 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 7: And uh, but pretty evident did not turn and and 374 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 7: and uh uh you know shake. 375 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: Bbi's I don't want to read too much into that, 376 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 2: but it was clearly icy when they got out of 377 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: the car and got there. 378 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 7: And I think it's because uh, Bbe's not enthusiastic. 379 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: This is a This is a catastrophic defeat for the 380 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: Israel First crowd here Tel Aviv Levin, in that crowd, 381 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure they're banging their heads. 382 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 4: On the wall. 383 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: It's a catastrophic defeat because they overreached, They pushed this 384 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: greater Israel project and uh, it came crashing down around him. 385 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 2: As the president I states when bib say he already 386 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: took the negotiating team for Iran, which we now know 387 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: he bald faced lie to the American people. And quite frankly, 388 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 2: John Ratcliffe, the CIA director, should be hauled before the 389 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: House about why he went around went why he agreed 390 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: with the Massad's assessment that this thing was days or 391 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: weeks away from a nuclear weapon when the Cabinet minutes 392 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 2: in the Cabinet debate was released by the Times of 393 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: Israel and they agreed that it was a minimum of 394 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: two years, of which we said here in the war room. 395 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: They went to kill the negotiating team that Steve Wincoff 396 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: was supposed to meet with in Oman that Sunday, and 397 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: really the hit the trip of our President Trump was Netanyahu, 398 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: without you know, without talking to the United States, went 399 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: and did a missile attack into cutter and to take 400 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: out the negotiating team a Hamas. I mean, how are 401 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: you going to make a deal. How are you going 402 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: to try to get the hostage back without doing that? Okay, 403 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: we're gonna try to take one more commercial break here. 404 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: If the president, if they if he walks into the 405 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: chamber of the Kanessean will jump out of a commercial 406 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: break in the four o'clock hour. We have been harnwell 407 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: Joel Gilbert, Kurt Mills about to be joined by others 408 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: as we return to Jerusalem. The President is about to 409 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: address the nation of Israel, and we will be back momentarily. 410 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: If the President walks out, we will cut the commercial 411 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 2: break and come right back back in a moment in 412 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: the war room. 413 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 4: Here's your host, Stephen k. 414 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 5: Bath. 415 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 7: Okay, welcome back. 416 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: The president's in the Kanesset and he'll be coming out 417 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: to address the state of visual of the nation and 418 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 2: the people here. 419 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 7: Momentarily. We'll cut right to that. 420 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: Met Faraci, you're outside, you're near the Kanesset with a 421 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 2: great shot. 422 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 7: Tell us what's going on? 423 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 5: Hey, Stevell, I thought I would add some fun, a 424 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 5: little bit of flavor and color to this day. First 425 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 5: of all, you commented on the slightly chaotic scene when 426 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 5: the President came in. Correct, just a few minutes ago. Uh, 427 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 5: that is the kanesset h it is. It is the 428 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 5: people forget this is a country full of Jews. I 429 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 5: think the Prime Minister said once many years ago, the 430 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 5: problem with being prime minister is that you're prime minister 431 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 5: of a nation of prime ministers. 432 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 4: So it is. 433 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 5: Uh, it is a little bit, you know when you 434 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 5: when I take visitors to the esse It, they were 435 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 5: always surprised at the uh at the the the decorum. 436 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 5: You know, it's not like the US Congress where there's 437 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 5: a lot of decorum. They there is process, but there's 438 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 5: people yelling at each other. It's like a big family 439 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 5: Thanksgiving special all the time, but with politics thrown in. 440 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 5: Another thing, fun thing I thought i'd share with your 441 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 5: viewers today. So as the President was pulling up, we 442 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 5: heard the sound of the show far. Now, the show 443 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 5: far is a ramshorn. It's an ancient thing from the Bible. 444 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 5: It's been used for thousands of years for many purposes, 445 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 5: including at the temple. It's used at this time of 446 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 5: year during the Jewish high holidays for religious purposes. But 447 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 5: I heard something I never thought i'd hear in my life, 448 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 5: which was the ramshorn going dunda da da dunda. And 449 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 5: they were they were blowing them as the President was 450 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 5: showing up, which was just an extraordinarily cool thing. 451 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 11: You get. 452 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 5: You kind of got to be here to understand how 453 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 5: significant that is. But everybody in Israel is celebrating. 454 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: Tell me what's the musical instrument and what do they do? 455 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: They play a hail to the Chief on what kind 456 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: of musical instrument? 457 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's literally a rams horn, So if if 458 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 5: you guys google it, it's a big uh. I wish 459 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 5: I had one with me there about there anywhere from 460 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 5: this little to you know, a foot or two long, 461 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 5: and uh it only you know to blow a note 462 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 5: out of it, To blow a tune out of it's 463 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 5: hard because it's not like a trumpet. It doesn't have 464 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 5: it doesn't have you know, there's no way you can 465 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 5: change the key. So whoever was doing that was exceptionally talented. 466 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 5: But there was a couple of folks doing it. Just 467 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 5: picture Steve almost like, uh, I hate to mention Disney, 468 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 5: since we both have a healthy disdain for that institution. 469 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 5: But you know, you picture the old Disney movies when 470 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 5: the king is showing up and they would play the 471 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 5: trumpets in the in like a you know, kingly court situation. 472 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 5: Maybe kind of a similar analogy. But we heard them 473 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 5: blowing them out as the President was showing up today 474 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 5: and it wasn't coming from there. It was coming from 475 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 5: the neighborhood around the Knesset. 476 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 4: Wow. 477 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 7: Amazing, Matt, hang on for a second. 478 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: I want to go to shove up balcony an American 479 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: activists that spends a lot of time in Israel. Scheva. 480 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: You've been doing amazing work up with the Drusim in Syria, Lebanon. 481 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 2: You're in Jerusalem today and we're going to have to 482 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 2: cut to the president as soon as they come to 483 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: the Knesset. But give us your perspective, put us in 484 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 2: the room in Jerusalem about the celebratory nature. 485 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 9: Of today, Hie Steve, thanks for having me so. The 486 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 9: feeling in Jerusalem today and in Israel is unbridled jubulation. 487 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 9: Everybody is so happy, excited that their family is being returned. 488 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 9: And I do want to point out that this is 489 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 9: a distinction between Israel and Hamas, that there is such 490 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 9: a cherished feeling for the sanctity of life. If you 491 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 9: look at the numbers only, it's twenty living hostages for 492 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 9: being exchanged for two thousand prisoners and murderers. So if 493 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 9: you look at the footage of everything that's being shown here, 494 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 9: every single person in Israel is celebrating today, is celebrating America, 495 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 9: loving Trump, dancing like their own brother son is returning 496 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:32,959 Speaker 9: because they. 497 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 11: Are is. 498 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 2: The candleworth the game? I realize you're getting twenty hostages back, 499 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 2: and you can see the nations united around that. But 500 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 2: even part of the minimum part of the deals two 501 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 2: thousand prisoners, I think the top two fifty were some 502 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 2: of the hardest, were some of the hardest terrorists that 503 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: Hamas had And obviously the senior command Hamas Is been killed. 504 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 7: Over the last couple of years by the idea. 505 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 2: But is that sunk into people that that you're you're 506 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: you're exchanging uh from Israeli prisons two thousand Uh, you know, 507 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: bad hombres. But but in that two thousand you got 508 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: i think two fifty of the top people that are 509 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 2: designated as actual terrorists. 510 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, And everybody that I've spoken to is not 511 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 9: happy about that at all. I think there's been a 512 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 9: divide where they are celebrating the return of their family. 513 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 9: Israel really was stuck in the heaviness and pain of 514 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 9: the separation of the hostages and the brutal torture that 515 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 9: these hostages were going through, and bringing them home was 516 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 9: essential for Israel to move to the next step, which 517 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 9: is protecting their people. And that next step is going 518 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 9: to be harder. Now that these two thousand murderers are released, 519 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 9: one hundred thirty of the two thousand are going to 520 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 9: international countries. So that's something for the international community to 521 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 9: keep in mind, because these are not you know, thieves 522 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 9: on the street. These are people that thrive on murdering 523 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 9: people that don't are that are not aligned with their philosophy, 524 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 9: which is Western values, which is America, which is everything 525 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 9: that we stand for. 526 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: Joe Gilbert, would the people that built the nation of Israel, 527 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 2: particularly the folks in sixty seven or seventy three, would 528 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 2: they have made this deal? Would they have and would 529 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 2: they have been strung out for two years a part 530 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 2: of this because of a hostage situation, Sir No. 531 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 12: It changed over time. Back in the sixties, they might 532 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 12: have changed. They might have exchanged one terrorist for each 533 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 12: individualage like twenty. You know, it evolved over the years 534 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 12: up to the point where Bib and Atin Yahoo released 535 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 12: one thousand prisoners back in twenty eleven for one Israeli 536 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 12: sold your Gilad Shalit in Gaza that was kidnapped, and 537 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 12: one of them was Sinhoar, who became the head of 538 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 12: the head of Hamas and perpetrated the war. So there's 539 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 12: great concern when you released these two thousand terrorists. It's 540 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 12: pretty well known that Hamas believes that when they lost 541 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,959 Speaker 12: all their leadership to Israeli assassination, they felt, well, they'll 542 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 12: just be replaced by these guys coming out of prison 543 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 12: at some point, and that certainly is their intention, that 544 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 12: they're going to draw their new leadership from these terrorists 545 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 12: who have been in prison all these years. So no, 546 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 12: back in the sixties, maybe they would release one for 547 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 12: one somehow. I think Bibi had a big part of 548 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 12: it was saying, well, okay, we'll give you one for 549 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 12: one thousand, and that's part of what motivated I think 550 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 12: Hamas even to embark on the October seventh ten back 551 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 12: in the first place, because they knew if they take hostages, 552 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 12: they can hold the country of Israel hostage and ultimately 553 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 12: release thousands of their prisoners. They don't care about losing 554 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 12: sixty thousand people. 555 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 8: In Gaza. 556 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,240 Speaker 12: The average family has ten children. That's just the average 557 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 12: ten children, and it's paid for by the UN, So 558 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 12: they don't mind. They expect if they lose one or 559 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 12: two kids per family. To them, it's just part of 560 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 12: the price of fighting Israel. And they're shahidin, they're martyrs, 561 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 12: so it's a completely different mindset. It's Israel's strength and 562 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 12: it's its weakness that it puts so much value in 563 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 12: each individual person. 564 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 2: Ben Harnwell, President's been there now for a few minutes. 565 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 7: He was supposed to spend a few minutes. 566 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's meeting with hostage families, but 567 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 2: I believe the conversation with Netanyahu and the President probably 568 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 2: continuing on. Do you think that's going to have any 569 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 2: impact on what the President says in his remarks. Kurt 570 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 2: Males kind of tossed that question to you. 571 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 6: Yes, of course, Yeah, I mean, I think this will 572 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 6: be directed by Trump pretty overtly. I do think, I 573 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 6: just I can't keep emphasizing it enough. He's not in 574 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 6: Israel very long. Trump seems to want to speak to 575 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 6: the Israeli political class, he seems to want to speak 576 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 6: to the Israeli population, and then he wants to get 577 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 6: at a dodge, and I think that's a pretty overt decision. 578 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 6: I would re mind that Trump did not visit Israel 579 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 6: in his last trips of the region in May, and 580 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 6: that also appeared to be an intentional maneuver. I take 581 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 6: what the co panalyst says, you know very well, but 582 00:39:55,120 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 6: the reality is that Gaza and Hamas don't have that 583 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 6: many cards. To use the president's words, no country in 584 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,720 Speaker 6: the world has a fertility rate of ten. Gaza basically 585 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 6: as far as anyone understands, as a fertility rate of 586 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 6: somewhere between three to four, which has been declining since 587 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 6: the two thousands. The AMAS is running out of people 588 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 6: as well. Some of their political bureau could be replenished 589 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 6: by this hostage exchange, but most of the hardliners, the 590 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 6: ones who planned the October seventh massacre, have been assassinated. 591 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 6: Muhammad al Dif, the mastermind Ismaelhania, the political leadership in Doha, 592 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 6: which is unclear if they ever even knew about the 593 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 6: October step attack, have been eliminated. Sinwar has been killed, 594 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 6: and you know, I do think Trump is probably subtly 595 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 6: delivering the message. This strike on Doha in late September 596 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 6: was the watershed moment. And the reality is that Netyahu missed, 597 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 6: He didn't kill most of the hamasago that he sought 598 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 6: to kill. And the reality is this deal and Trump 599 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 6: wants to call it, and I think you're going to 600 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 6: see it there. Trump is going to talk to net 601 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 6: Yahu today for a shorter amount of time than we 602 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 6: are talking together this morning, for four hours, and I 603 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 6: think that speaks volumes. Trump has done a lot for Israel. 604 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 6: Trump has done a lot for Benjamin net Yahoo. I 605 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 6: think more than he deserves. And I think this is 606 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 6: he wants to call it. It's hard to imagine if 607 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 6: they ink this deal and the Israelis try to start 608 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 6: up a new war with Iran, I think they might 609 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 6: find themselves in worse position than they might imagine. That 610 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 6: ceasefire in June a lot of murky stuff on that. 611 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 6: I think it was at the end of the day 612 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 6: broker on behalf of the Israelis. They were running out 613 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 6: of interceptors. And if if Israel tries to broad on 614 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 6: this war and stick the bill with Aucule Sucker. I 615 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 6: think it's going to be cold. 616 00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 2: It's it's it's impossible, it's impo The Persian, the Persian 617 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 2: fantasy is over. 618 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 7: I mean the total obliteration. 619 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 2: Joel uh And by the way, that the I don't 620 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 2: say the attitude, but one of the issues the world has. 621 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 2: And I think the reason that President Trump continues to 622 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,399 Speaker 2: say that people are loving Israel now and he told 623 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 2: Netna who you can't take on the world, is the 624 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 2: dehumanization of the Palestinian population. And we've got to remember, 625 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 2: there's not an insignificant amount of Christians in Palestine. And 626 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 2: I know this from Christians. I know they've done relief 627 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 2: work there. They are absolutely one anti idf anti Israel. 628 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 2: And they said Israel has been has been essentially in 629 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 2: I'm not saying this, but they say it's been genocide 630 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 2: what they've seen. How do you respond to that, because 631 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 2: clearly the world's I mean, one of the reasons Netnya, 632 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 2: who's up against the walls, he's lost tremendous political support 633 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:56,280 Speaker 2: here in the United States. 634 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 4: I mean, we gake a few comments. 635 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 12: Look, Hamas liberately dragged out the war with the assists 636 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 12: from the Biden administration, especially at the beginning, by dribbling 637 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 12: out hostages, you know, ten at a time or twenty 638 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 12: at a time, and refused to end the war so 639 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 12: because they dragged it out for so long. One reason 640 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 12: they did that because they knew that they were winning 641 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 12: the pr game over time. But I believe that Trump 642 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 12: understands that the United States cannot exist as the lone 643 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 12: democracy in the world between two oceans. The United States 644 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 12: must have strong democratic allies around the world, including Australia, Japan, 645 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 12: Western Europe, and Israel. And I think Trump understands and 646 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 12: people in the administration understand the ta we need strong. 647 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 9: We have to we have to go. 648 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 7: To break. We've got to go to a break. We're 649 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 7: going to be back. 650 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 2: If President Trump comes to the Knassea, we'll cut right 651 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 2: to it. But I will make the argument to Joel 652 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 2: Gilbert that Israel is. 653 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 7: Not an ally of the United States. They're a protectorate 654 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 7: of the United States. Short break back in the war room. 655 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 4: Confuse your host, Stephen K. 656 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 2: Bath, Okay, can we pull Let's pull that shot up 657 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 2: of the Kannesset right there. Really magnificent. The President is 658 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:17,280 Speaker 2: going to momentarily. I think he actually may be meeting 659 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 2: at least with some of the families of the hostages. 660 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 7: Behind the scenes. 661 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 2: We are running about on the on the program of 662 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 2: what they laid about an hour behind, and I think 663 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,280 Speaker 2: the president's remarks are going to be at least thirty minutes, 664 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 2: and if the President, as he often does, freelances a 665 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 2: little bit, it will go longer. But we'll have to 666 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 2: see about that. Still massive enthusiasm in Tel Aviv at 667 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 2: at hostage square right there the kanesse. The president will 668 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 2: be coming out momentarily and we will cut to that live. 669 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 7: We want to hear all of it, Joel. 670 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,320 Speaker 2: Overall, for the hostages, I think there were two fifty taken. 671 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 2: My young the production team here is pretty shocked that 672 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 2: we get down to the. 673 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 4: End of it. 674 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 2: There's only twenty that are still alive, and I'm sure 675 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 2: some of those are in pretty bad shape. And there's 676 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 2: some of the early hostages released were in bad shape. 677 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 2: All the female hostages in American hostages have been released 678 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 2: a while ago. But you know, the vast look, I 679 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,879 Speaker 2: think the majority hostages didn't make it out alive. 680 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 7: Am I correct on that. 681 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 12: The number I have is one hundred and fifty five 682 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 12: made it out alive. I also think about the mistake 683 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 12: that the United States made after nine to eleven. We 684 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 12: lost three thousand people at the World Trade Center, and 685 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 12: then we went and lost seven thousand soldiers in Iraq 686 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 12: and Afghanistan. Similarly, the Israel was trying to save two 687 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 12: hundred and fifty hostages and they lost about eight hundred 688 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 12: soldiers fighting in Gaza ostensively to get these hostages back. 689 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:03,479 Speaker 12: So there's some real tragic military calculations when it comes 690 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 12: to trying to get these hostages back. They did lose. 691 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 12: All they did was, you know, destroy most of Gaza, 692 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,479 Speaker 12: but lost eight hundred people trying to get two hundred 693 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 12: out and ended up with only one hundred and fifty 694 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 12: five at the end. 695 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 2: Why has there not been any inquiry? I realized, you've 696 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,479 Speaker 2: been at war. But in the early years of World 697 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 2: War Two, when we finally got dragged in after December seventh, 698 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 2: I think we had in the first two years three 699 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 2: or four major inquiries into Pearl Harbor. Now I think 700 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 2: we ended up with seven or eight. We've never really 701 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 2: gotten the answer straight of exactly what happened and who 702 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 2: knew what at what time, But has a surprised you 703 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 2: there hasn't been any inquiry into seven October. 704 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 12: I think they've had some low level internal IDF type 705 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 12: of probes. Why didn't they you know, why didn't they 706 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 12: have proper positioning of forces down there? I think the 707 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 12: Mosada had some internal things. Some people did resign, but 708 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 12: the idea in Israel was that we really can't have 709 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 12: a big inquiry while the war is going on. And 710 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 12: I think people mostly respected that Natignell, who made the 711 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 12: case that we can't all go and hire lawyers right now. 712 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 12: We're trying to win a war. The Iran thing came up, 713 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 12: so I do expect it to come up. The Israelis 714 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 12: became complacent over twenty years. They simply shuffled Katari money 715 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 12: into hamas and felt that they could buy them off 716 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 12: and they wouldn't be interested in war, and they obviously 717 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 12: badly miscalculated and have paid the price. 718 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it was a shocking to you that President 719 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 2: Trump's here today on a day that actually bringing the 720 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 2: remaining hostage home twenty males. I understand now the final 721 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 2: thirteen have been turned over the planning that went in 722 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 2: tox service. So I mean, Jack Pisoviak. I got him 723 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 2: on the show by phone that morning, as we did 724 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 2: the Saturday War rooms always do, and we covered it 725 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 2: live and it was pretty stunning the scale of it. 726 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it was over forty miles, it was an 727 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 2: air sea land. They had what the paragliders. They eventually 728 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 2: found out, they had floor plans for many of the kibbutzs. 729 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 2: They absolutely knew about the Nova Music Festival and what 730 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 2: to do there. They actually knew who who the guards 731 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 2: were on different guard towers. I mean, the level of 732 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 2: sophistication of their knowledge was shocking. And given the Hamas 733 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 2: has never been known as a particularly you know, they're terrorists, 734 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 2: but haven't been known for military operations. This was to 735 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 2: pull off a military operation that that shock you at 736 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 2: the time of how sophisticated that operation was. 737 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,359 Speaker 12: Well, look, it was sophisticated, but it was also very 738 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 12: low tech. Nine to eleven. It was eight guys with 739 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 12: box cutters, and because it was so low tech, they 740 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 12: were able to penetrate the system so too. In Gaza 741 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:59,320 Speaker 12: they had about six thousand fighters on bicycles, tractors and 742 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 12: walking in sandals in motorcycles, so it was so low tech. 743 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 12: I think the Israelis did not anticipate something that low tech. 744 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 12: They Hamas had done recon for years and knew where 745 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 12: to go and what they were doing. But it was 746 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 12: a very low tech assault. They had smuggled over plenty 747 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 12: of weapons from Egypt for years, and you know, it 748 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 12: was an assault that kind of shocked us all. But no, 749 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 12: I wasn't shocked because of it was all manpower. They 750 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,320 Speaker 12: had six thousand people, a bunch of rifles, and a 751 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 12: bunch of motorcycles, and they encountered a defenseless group of 752 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 12: kibutsim that did not have proper defense installations to guard 753 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 12: against that kind of low tech attack. 754 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 2: And as you had mentioned, many of the people in 755 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 2: the Kubbutz's and the people at the Nova or the 756 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,800 Speaker 2: Burning Man as I call it, had actually befriended people 757 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 2: in Palestine, had taken to the hospital. 758 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, kids to school. 759 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, we're gonna take a break here at the 760 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 2: top of the hour. Hang, we'll get to that and 761 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 2: we get back. We're gonna take a break at the 762 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 2: top of the hour. It's close to five a m. 763 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 2: In the United States. Dave Bratt is going to join us. 764 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,240 Speaker 2: The President, like I said, we're running probably on the schedule. 765 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 2: I don't know an hour behind. The president's going to 766 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,919 Speaker 2: address the Kanesset. I think he's behind the scenes meeting 767 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 2: with some hostage families and probably spending some more time 768 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 2: with the Prime Minister. His speech to the Nation of 769 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 2: Israel is next, and we're going to return. If a 770 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,839 Speaker 2: president walks out during our commercial brink, we'll come back 771 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 2: right back. Shova Balcony, Matt Ferrazi, Joel Gilbert, our own, 772 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 2: Ben Harnwell, and of course Kurt Mills. 773 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 7: We'll be joined by Dave Bratt. 774 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,399 Speaker 2: Special coverage for Real America's Voice in the War Room 775 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 2: of the historic trip to Israel by the President of 776 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 2: United States back 777 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 4: In a moment