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Speaker 1: Advice Shooters and welcome to the nose of your host,

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Speaker 1: Rob Shooter. And it is Friday, which means our dear

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Speaker 1: friend Cory Andrew joins us. Hey, Corey, are you there?

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Speaker 1: I am here.

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Speaker 2: Happy Friday, everyone.

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Speaker 1: Happy Happy Friday, my friends. We have a lot of

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Speaker 1: gossip news to jump into, and it's an emotional day

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Speaker 1: to day because both Corey and I are huge fans

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Speaker 1: of Madonna. A kay, let's start the show. What time

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Speaker 1: is it, my friends? It is tea time. We have

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Speaker 1: a little bit of good news, thankfully, after a few

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Speaker 1: days of real drama, real heartache. So a police escort

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Speaker 1: was seen at Madonna's New York City home after she

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Speaker 1: was discharged from the hospital. So that's a really important

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Speaker 1: key phrase. Yeah, Madonna is out of the hospital. She

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Speaker 1: was released from the hospital following a health scare that

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Speaker 1: landed her in the ICU. If you're in the ICU,

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Speaker 1: it is no joke. So the BBC were the first

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Speaker 1: to report that on Thursday, the pop star, who is

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Speaker 1: now sixty four, is home and feeling much better. There

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Speaker 1: is a new report out today that's saying she's bed stricken.

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Speaker 1: She can't stop vomiting. My inside as A're saying that's

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Speaker 1: not true. If that was the case, she wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: been discharged. Let's remember she is getting the best healthcare

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Speaker 1: probably in the world. Yeah, everybody is very cautious around

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Speaker 1: Madonna too. Nobody wants something bad to happen on their

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Speaker 1: watch to Madonna. So I'm told the doctors were really

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Speaker 1: doing better. So the good news here is that she

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Speaker 1: via a private abalance and a police escort is now

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Speaker 1: seeing outside the Material Girls property. You know, Cory, when

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Speaker 1: this looked bad, and for a minute it did look

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Speaker 1: quite bad, I tought you we're going to have another Prince,

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Speaker 1: another Michael Jackson, another Whitney Houston on Pantia and there

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Speaker 1: the icons of the eighties. Madonna's the last one standing.

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Speaker 1: I was going to head up to her home with

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Speaker 1: because the police are outside is home. Another good sign, too,

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Speaker 1: David and Rocco. Now, she has a very troubled relationship

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Speaker 1: with Rocco, so the fact Rocco flew in from London

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Speaker 1: is a good signs it's for the best and Lordous

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Speaker 1: her daughter, she was in Paris and so she flew

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Speaker 1: in a few days ago. So she's surrounded by family.

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Speaker 1: Her friends are speaking out. Rosie O'Donnell is speaking out

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Speaker 1: saying she is feeling good. I'm told by my sources

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Speaker 1: that this is all a very very good sign, Corey,

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Speaker 1: and we can all just breathe a little relaxed today

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Speaker 1: knowing that Madonna is home.

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Speaker 2: Well that's great because you know, we just lost Tina,

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Speaker 2: as you mentioned. And I was when this news broke.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I cannot handle another icon right now.

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Speaker 2: Not in not in June. I mean, it's just please

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Speaker 2: not in June. And but I will say I've been

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Speaker 2: a little upset rob at a lot of like kind

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Speaker 2: of snarky comments from older gay men, specifically, who are

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Speaker 2: you know Madonna's age if not older, and they're being

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Speaker 2: so nasty and rude, And I just want to say

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Speaker 2: that lady was an ally to you guys when you

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Speaker 2: were a kid who didn't even know you were gay yet,

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Speaker 2: and she was telling the world you were okay. So

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Speaker 2: respect that legacy and stop talking crap about Madonna.

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Speaker 1: You say it, my friend. I'm so happy you said that.

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Speaker 1: My fancy music friends, people that play in the Philharmonic,

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Speaker 1: real musicians, they don't understand my love of Madonna, and

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Speaker 1: I say to them all the time, it's not the music. Again,

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Speaker 1: She was talking about gay friends, the gay community when

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Speaker 1: nobody else was, even boy George was, no she was

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Speaker 1: Put the music to one side, and I do enjoy it,

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Speaker 1: It's it's probably not going to last for forever, but

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Speaker 1: saying this, that you're clapping back, Cory. Let me ask you,

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Speaker 2: You know, there's also the social media gang mentality. That's

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Speaker 2: what she can do to hers to stay young. And

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Speaker 2: I think their reaction to that is sort of to

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Speaker 2: be snarky and to be snyded. But again I agree

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Speaker 2: with you, Rob, I think given the high amount of

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Speaker 2: children and young gay people who commit suicide today and

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Speaker 2: who are you know, just therevd by their sexuality and confusion,

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Speaker 2: I think Madonna saved generations of young gay men who

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Speaker 2: She saved us.

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Speaker 1: I really changed my life that she changed my life.

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Speaker 1: I was a young, confused gay kid who was very

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Speaker 1: it makes me feel seen. It made me feel seen.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's why now listening to Madonna records a

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Speaker 1: I'll forget it, it's just yes. And then a Madonna.

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Speaker 2: Song game we were all like, but you know, I know,

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Speaker 2: but listen, let's be but yes. And the beginning very

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Speaker 2: sugary dancing partner. But then, you know, Madonna really crafted

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Speaker 2: got really serious. I mean, that whole baby Face era

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Speaker 1: I have so much respect for Madonna and her work ethic.

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Speaker 1: I have so much respect for her. I was really

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Speaker 1: We have it with Madonna. So let's respect her. Let's

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Speaker 1: remember what she did. Even if you don't like her music,

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Speaker 1: so many people who were never seen until she came along.

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Speaker 1: This brings us to our pole question of the day.

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Speaker 1: Madonna's family thought they were going to lose her. There's

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Speaker 1: no nice way of putting it. They thought they were

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Speaker 1: going to lose her. Did you think the same? Or

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Speaker 1: facebook page is Naughty Gossip and be sure to check

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Speaker 1: back on Monday to hear your results. Corey, what are

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Speaker 2: Well, Kelly Clarkson, who happens to be a Madonna fan,

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Speaker 2: by the way, Yes, and many times she said it,

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Speaker 2: Kelly Clarkson is throwing shade and all the celebrities who

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Speaker 2: are very rude to her for her American Idol fame. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was like they didn't take her seriously in the beginning.

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Speaker 2: So Clarkson admitted that other celebrities did not take her

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Speaker 2: you know, but she did kind of say, listen, I

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Speaker 2: the shows like the one I'm from, Clarkson said, and

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Speaker 2: you know, she's she's almost given like a little warning sign.

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Speaker 2: But hey, you know, it's funny what money does.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's pretty amazing with those ns and I've seen them.

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Speaker 1: I remember walking red carpets with Jessica Simpson and nobody

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Speaker 1: doesn't change for some people. Make sure it changes for you,

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Speaker 1: anything to Kelly Clark. So it's certainly interesting. I'm guilty

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Speaker 1: even you Corey, I would be. But if it was

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Speaker 1: was a stop about Corey? Who what category? Who are

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Speaker 1: you a good of a? Come on?

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Speaker 2: No, I really don't have that for anybody. And in fact,

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Speaker 2: that's why I love what Kelly is saying, because let

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Speaker 2: me tell you something, rob Okay, I'll spill a little

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Speaker 2: quick little tea here. Yes, I am writing a book

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Speaker 2: about leadership, and I'm talking. Each chapter is a person

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Speaker 2: tell you now, sir, you are a chapter in this book,

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Speaker 2: and it relates to this Kelly Clarkson story. You told

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Speaker 2: me early on. You put your head down, you do

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Speaker 2: listen to people, and you will shine and they will

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Speaker 2: notice when it's time.

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Speaker 1: And that's what Kelly did. Did she listen to any

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Speaker 2: No, she just did the work. So I'm always for

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Speaker 2: the underdog. I don't listen to that, and nobody else should.

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Speaker 2: So no snobbish no, snobbishness from.

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Speaker 1: Me at all, no stoppingness. And when that book is ready,

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Speaker 1: you tell me, I'm going to sell that book. I'll

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