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Speaker 1: Family. Welcome into the Next Man Up. We have some

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Speaker 1: fun for y'all. This week is always Mike Sanders still

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Speaker 1: pulls up and talks about his battle against the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Then we have a great Washington legend for you. Alfred

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Speaker 1: Morris joins the show to talk about the best running

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Speaker 1: backs in his opinion, that has ever played for Washington

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Speaker 1: and what it was like when he played in the

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Speaker 1: Battle of the Beltway against the Baltimore Races. All that

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Speaker 1: in more right now, next man up, the man is family.

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Speaker 1: For our next man up, we have somebody extremely special

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Speaker 1: straight out of Michigan. Our second round pick, our rookie.

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Speaker 1: He's already naked waves in the league. Mike Santa said, brother,

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Speaker 1: how you doing, Man doing? Man?

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Speaker 2: How you doing?

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Speaker 1: Man? I'm blessed to be here. Man, thank you for

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Speaker 1: being here, because man, it's been a minute. As we talked,

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Speaker 1: it was a rookie. Wee just dude came in. Then

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Speaker 1: you the eyes wild open and a lot has happened

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Speaker 1: since we last spoke. Man. First thing most important your daughter, man,

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Speaker 1: the birth of your daughter. You're a girl. Dad. Now Man,

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Speaker 1: how has that changed your life? Man?

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Speaker 2: Just understanding that, like everything I'm doing now is no

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Speaker 2: longer for myself, no longer for my partner, no longer,

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Speaker 2: you know, like we are now doing everything we're doing

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Speaker 2: for somebody else, like we're taking care of another being.

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Speaker 2: And just you know, understanding that every day I wake

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So like, shoot, I have

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Speaker 1: You know that's beautiful to here, man, because you're already

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Speaker 1: a motivated god to even get to this point in life.

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Speaker 1: You're very motivated. But I know when I had my son,

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Speaker 1: my first child, that motivation level just went to a

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Speaker 1: whole nother space. Have you noticed being a dad affecting

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Speaker 1: you on the field yet? Have you noticed like a change.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've noticed it, like in the sense

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Speaker 2: of like what I'm doing. I think just the urgency

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Speaker 2: I have. How are prepared now? I do notice that

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Speaker 2: different friends, But like I you know, I go out

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Speaker 2: But I do know in the back of my head,

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Speaker 2: like I want to do everything I'm doing right now

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's interesting the journey because you're becoming a

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Speaker 1: new dad, but you're also an NFL player, two different things,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure both things you've dreamt before. A quarter the

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Speaker 1: way through the season already, man, a quarter of the way.

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Speaker 1: What has surprised you so far in your rookie season?

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Speaker 2: Anything? How fast it went? Yeah, Like like you just said,

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Speaker 2: like square a quarter of the way in already, and

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Speaker 2: I feel like I literally just got out, like I

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Speaker 2: remember our first conversation together. But like, at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, it's the same game. You know, It's

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Speaker 2: the same game I've been playing since I was a

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Speaker 2: compared to college kids compared to high school kids and

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Speaker 2: like everything just you go from college to combine prep

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Speaker 2: amount of things that just come at you so fast,

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Speaker 2: but the duration of it is so long. From your

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Speaker 2: last college football game to whenever your last NFL game is.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Well, everybody that talks about you,

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Speaker 1: he says, this kid acts like he's been here before.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't carry himself like a rookie, he doesn't play

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Speaker 2: I think just understanding, Like if I wasn't, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't think any rookie on this current team acts

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Speaker 2: they are for a reason. Why not follow what they're doing?

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Speaker 1: And that's so much easier said than done though, right,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely. I've caught myself a few times like

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Speaker 2: one day, and just understanding that. It's like, like, that's

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Speaker 2: But now I'm sharing the field with him. I'm a

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Speaker 1: Gained not only the confidence of players like Bobby Wagner

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Speaker 1: what does that mean to you? And how has that

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Speaker 2: I'm just you know, wanting to make my co right.

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Speaker 2: What he believes in me, what you know, his expectations

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Speaker 1: And you've been doing it so far. Man, you have

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Speaker 1: made some splashes. And I remember last game you meet

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Speaker 1: when you're on that field, something clicks. Man, Can you

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Speaker 1: talk to us about that moment a little bit, because

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Speaker 2: Just just you know, when you step on that field,

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Speaker 2: Like whatever your alter ego is, whatever, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, just you step on that field, it's you

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Speaker 2: and your guys were stamping there, guys, and you know,

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Speaker 1: And that moment is so special to me because I

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Speaker 1: as you do that, the entire defense comes over there.

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Speaker 1: They have your back, they stand with you. Talk about

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Speaker 2: I think it's just well even building an offseason, that brotherhood,

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Speaker 2: You know, we're a unit that we love each other,

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Speaker 1: We can't wait to see you guys out there in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: It's a battle, little belt whigh, your first one going

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Speaker 1: they travel, they've shown it now. They right up the Street.

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Speaker 1: while they need to show up in Baltimore and turn.

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Speaker 2: Up for y'all. I mean, I would say we felt.

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Speaker 2: You know, our fans support all Sea and long. Why stop. Now,

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Speaker 1: And Mike, appreciate your time as always. Man, congratulations all

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Speaker 1: your success. Congratulations on being a father. Burn. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: Man, appreciate you, sir.

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Speaker 1: The man is family. For our next man up, we

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Speaker 1: if you had one of the best rookie seasons I

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Speaker 1: Let me welcome in the next man up, Alfred Morris.

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Speaker 3: Brother, how you doing, Man, I'm good, I'm good, Man,

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Speaker 3: glad to be here. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Man, oh man, we are so happy to have you.

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Speaker 1: And as I mentioned, Man, that rookie year, I think

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Speaker 3: I think I knew I was gonna make the team.

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Speaker 3: But then I like doing week one, I kind of

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Speaker 3: I would have never I never dreamed that would happen.

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Speaker 3: It was fun, It was a crazy ride, and both

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Speaker 3: I'm working more than that. So I kind of turned

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00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,119
Speaker 3: it down. But I know it's a game. So I

433
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,280
Speaker 3: thought like, okay, they're gonna come back. And they never

434
00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,960
Speaker 3: they never offered me like like I guess, like like

435
00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,199
Speaker 3: a rebuttal I guess to me saying no, they I

436
00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,240
Speaker 3: just started my play start getting effective. But that's whole

437
00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,000
Speaker 3: nother story. So I ended up I don't I also,

438
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,919
Speaker 3: I actually thought I was gonna end up in with Broncos,

439
00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,359
Speaker 3: which is a whole nother AFC, you know, so I'm like,

440
00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,480
Speaker 3: oh shoot, you know, like all right, let's go h

441
00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,119
Speaker 3: But that didn't work out, and then just how to

442
00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,920
Speaker 3: cookie crumbled. They ended up landing in Dallas, and I

443
00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 3: didn't want to sign. I was mad when I signed.

444
00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,560
Speaker 3: You know, I'm thankful on the hind side my career

445
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,119
Speaker 3: will continue, but the same time, I was mad, Like

446
00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,679
Speaker 3: in the hotel talk with my agent, I'm like, this

447
00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,600
Speaker 3: is bullcrap. This contract bull crap, you know, Like I'm like,

448
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,439
Speaker 3: I'm better than this. I got worth more than this,

449
00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,960
Speaker 3: and but you know, like I wanted to be obedient,

450
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,560
Speaker 3: so I was like, I feel like the ward told

451
00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,080
Speaker 3: me to do it, and I was like, all right, fine,

452
00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it, but I'm not gonna like it.

453
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,119
Speaker 3: So that's how I ended up over there, honestly, like

454
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 3: it was the last team I wanted to play for,

455
00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,560
Speaker 3: and uh yeah, and that's how it worked out.

456
00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,959
Speaker 1: So wow, that is actually wild to think about. So

457
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,720
Speaker 1: you played for a couple of teams after Dallas as well,

458
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,040
Speaker 1: But would you say that the Commanders like Washington that's

459
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 1: your home like it would you feel like this is

460
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,479
Speaker 1: still like your home. Like when people think Alfred Morris,

461
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,040
Speaker 1: do they think Washington.

462
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 3: Oh, without a doubt, Like I did the same thing.

463
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's that's that's why I started at I mean,

464
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 3: that's why I wanted to. I would love to in

465
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 3: you know, some some day sometime, you know, maybe do

466
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:55,879
Speaker 3: like some of the other guys do, do a one

467
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,679
Speaker 3: day contract. But uh, you know, we'll work on that

468
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,160
Speaker 3: later down the road. But all right now is just yeah,

469
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 3: like I when people think of me, they're always like, oh, man,

470
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,160
Speaker 3: he's a killer. They always they never say a mandage.

471
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 3: They always see the other name. Yeah, yeah, you know,

472
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 3: I still got a bunch of gear in my attic

473
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 3: and out in my closet. So but I was like,

474
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 3: you know, I respect that they're gonna put it out,

475
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 3: but it's okay, but yeah, I'm washing them through and through.

476
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 1: Well I'll tell you what, man, And that's why I

477
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 1: like being able to talk to you guys, legends, because

478
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,120
Speaker 1: like we don't want the fans to think we're trying

479
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 1: to erase anything. Because you wore a redskin. You played man,

480
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 1: you wore that helmet, and that's why We like having

481
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 1: you guys on the talk because, like we want to

482
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 1: honor that history. That history doesn't go anywhere. You're a

483
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 1: big part of that. So Meg, like, man, we're just

484
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 1: so happy to have you in the phone. It's crazy

485
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 1: because a lot of guys are starting to come back

486
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 1: around and starting to show their faces again. Like there

487
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 1: was a time where a lot of Washington legend have

488
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 1: kind of just removed themselves. I don't know if it

489
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 1: was the name change, I don't know what it was,

490
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 1: but it's great to have you guys back. So my

491
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 1: favorite question to ask y'all legends, and this might be

492
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 1: a tough one, what was your favorite memory playing for Washington?

493
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 3: Oh? Shoot, that is a tough one. I mean the

494
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 3: season overall, I would say it was a it was

495
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 3: a moment, uh I think we played uh man, it's

496
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 3: just hard. But I can think of other ones. But

497
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,400
Speaker 3: this first one came out something to go with that one.

498
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 3: But when we played New York the Giants, and it

499
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 3: was I think pretty sure it was Monday night football.

500
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 3: I think we ended up winning sixteen seventeen. But I

501
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 3: was running on the left sideline and somehow, I like

502
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 3: I think my shoulders missed up, but like the way

503
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 3: I landed, the ball came out my hand. It was fun.

504
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 3: I tried to get it back but like I did

505
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 3: and then they recovered it. And I'm a young rookie guy,

506
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 3: like were like partials through the season, you know, and

507
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 3: they didn't. But my coaches didn't give up on it.

508
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 3: Didn't be like man put them on a bench like

509
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 3: he's out of here, you know. They like they they

510
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 3: we got the defense, got the ball back, and they

511
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 3: gave put the ball in my hands to steal the game,

512
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 3: you know, like they were run this clock on it.

513
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 3: That's one of my favorite pittus. I had that actually

514
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 3: on like a canvas. But it's like me, I broke

515
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 3: the over, get the first down. I'm like, oh and

516
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 3: I just yelling like this big moment is just like

517
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 3: like because I was like they believe me. I believe

518
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 3: in myself, Like we just stealed this game. That's the

519
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: w And it was just like this and I have

520
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 3: to find I'll take it to you. But if I

521
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 3: can find, it's probably an addic somewhere now because we

522
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 3: moved again and so I didn't unpack the text to me.

523
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but yeah, yeah, so I have to find

524
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 3: out when that was always one of my favorite pieces

525
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 3: of just that moment and just in Washington and so

526
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 3: but yeah, man, the time, it's.

527
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: So great to do those walk down memory lanes, and

528
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: you could tell when you guys talk about those moments,

529
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: like even if you don't mention it, I know how

530
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 1: involved the fans were at that time and how much

531
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,120
Speaker 1: of an impact they've made on you guys, because again,

532
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: you've played for different teams, but there's a reason why

533
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: all the guys seem to come back to the Burgundy

534
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: and Gold and show love there. Can you just talk

535
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: about this fan base a little bit and the love

536
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: you've gotten, not just why you were playing, but since

537
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 1: you've been gone as well.

538
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think one of the best words I

539
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 3: heard to describe the fan base as electrifying, especially that

540
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 3: rookie years Trallen is just like, man, there's no atmosphere

541
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 3: like you know, like like it wasn't washing the man

542
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 3: Fedix Field it was. They're just different. I mean like

543
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 3: even like I used to hang out in the stadium,

544
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 3: that's my stadium family, you know. I used to always

545
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 3: go out and kick it with them. So it's just

546
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 3: like this like family atmosphere that you just don't get

547
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: anywhere else. And it's like, you know, these people, they

548
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 3: bleed it and they're like they're about that, like no

549
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 3: matter what you do. That's why I love Even since

550
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 3: being going and going and playing with the enemy, I

551
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 3: still get love. You know, I got some booze and

552
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 3: stuff like that, but I get the people fully understand

553
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 3: the business side of this, like how the game works.

554
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 3: Like if I, if it had my way, I would

555
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 3: have been in Washington for my entire career. That's what

556
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 3: I wanted, you know, But that's not what That's not

557
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: how I played out for me. And that's okay because

558
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 3: I still get a lot of love from the fans.

559
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 3: I still get a lot of I still have love

560
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 3: for the fans. And it was just one of those faces.

561
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 3: It was special, Like I like I said, I had

562
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 3: four other stops, but none of them felt like family.

563
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 3: None of them felt like electrifying, like like it was

564
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 3: I forget who said that. I think when we played

565
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 3: the U when we played that Minnesota Vikings game, and

566
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 3: it's the crowd was like like when Robert took off

567
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 3: and like scare that touchdown game winner, Like the crowd

568
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 3: went stupid, and I was just like, got these goosebo

569
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 3: I get right now? Just think, man, this is this

570
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 3: is it. This is the big leagues man. So but yeah, man,

571
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 3: I think this fan base is really special and I'm

572
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 3: glad they're still riding out through MultiMate name changes, through

573
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 3: you know, coach changers, through player change all this. They're

574
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 3: like there's still the conscience. So it's like they're always

575
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 3: going to be there and I love that. And these

576
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 3: people are like, man, my parents are at like yeah,

577
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 3: seen tickets since the sixties or whatever it is. They

578
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 3: have these crazy like dates but it's just like man,

579
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 3: that's crazy. Like they like literally pass them down in

580
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 3: the family, like it's like this is a family heiringroom,

581
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 3: Like you get these in inheritance, you know, so, which

582
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 3: is like super crazy and I love that. Man. So

583
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 3: this fan base, ever, I ain't bias.

584
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: It's funny because I don't think that's a better person

585
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: to talk about that type of energy because now we're

586
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: looking at the energy shift again. Now we're looking at

587
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: the energy probably higher than it's ever been, higher than

588
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: it's been since you played, like the last time you

589
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: were playing, when you and RGI three were doing, you guys,

590
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: just thing that's when that energy was up there and

591
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: now we are seeing it again. And a lot of

592
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: that has to do with the man Jaden Daniels. But

593
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: he also has so stud running backs just like RG

594
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: three had. He has a Brian Robinson, j he has

595
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: an Austin Eckley. He even has a Jeremy McNichols. Talk

596
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: about this run game before we get into Jade and

597
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 1: Daniels and the commanders that are today, talk about this

598
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: run game a little bit, because I got a feeling

599
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: you're a big fan of what you're seeing on that

600
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: field right now.

601
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: No, No, definitely for sure.

602
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: Man.

603
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 3: It's it's crazy how like so many people want to

604
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 3: go away from the run game and they talk about

605
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 3: it like, oh, it's not needed people in stupe go,

606
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: And I'm like, nah Na, Like, if you really want

607
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: to win, if you really want to contend, it, like

608
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: you have to establish run game, because when you can't

609
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: get the ball going on the on the on the ground,

610
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: it's like it limits your playbook, like you can only

611
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 3: do so much. It literally makes your your offense is

612
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 3: like it makes it that much harder to be successful

613
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 3: as an offense, Like you have to establish your run game.

614
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 3: That helps with play actions that help with like some

615
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 3: of those like a lot of those deep passes and

616
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 3: stuff like. It helps with like the game overall, and

617
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,959
Speaker 3: even the flow ball like timon possession. You know, if

618
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 3: you have something like a lot of people don't look

619
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 3: at but I can look at people's timon position. I like,

620
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: look at Jim James. I bet they lose a game

621
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 3: just by their position alone. The defense on the field

622
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 3: too long. That means they're gonna get really tired, and

623
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 3: that means that the offense wasn't like they weren't fining

624
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 3: all senders. Chances are they lost that game or they

625
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 3: didn't play very well, you know. So it's just one

626
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 3: of those things like you have to establish run games.

627
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 3: So but yeah, I'm always gonna be biased by runn

628
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: game because they always trying to like devalue running back

629
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 3: Like no, I'll get what you say, like be value

630
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 3: all you want, but you need to running back.

631
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: Well, they definitely value it out here. Cliff Kingsbury has

632
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: found a way to move that ball on the ground.

633
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: Of course, that brings me to Jaden Daniels, where you

634
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: know he had a lot of comparisons of RG three,

635
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: which I'm gonna say they think it's fair to make

636
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,239
Speaker 1: any of these comparisons, right, They compared Withamar Jackson all

637
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 1: these things. But we are seeing a guy come in

638
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: and make an impact very similar to what we saw

639
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: when RG three came in his rookie year. Can you

640
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: talk about Jaden Daniels and have you really seen a

641
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: quarterback like Jaden Daniels before?

642
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 3: No, I can't. Yeah, everyone's unique. They may have similarities, man,

643
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: Like you said, they gonna of course, anybody who looks

644
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: like them are somewhat similar. They're gonna compare it likesons people, man,

645
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Speaker 3: But I think he's overall he's doing a heck of

646
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Speaker 3: a job. And like one of the main things is

647
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 3: like play along is like he's reigniting the fan base.

648
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 3: When you get those fans involved, man, like, it changes game.

649
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: They literally the atmosphere can shift momentum in your favor

650
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 3: and it's crazy how that works. So that's well if

651
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: you can get that fan base going. And I think

652
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Speaker 3: him and the rest of the team are doing a

653
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Speaker 3: really really good job of this, Like I said, play

654
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Speaker 3: along like and the more the better they play, the

655
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 3: more the fans, we need to do it. So it's

656
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: like it's just if both of them are just speeding

657
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 3: off each other. So it's exciting to see what they do.

658
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 3: And my hope it's that like they're able to, you know,

659
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 3: one go make it all the way this sheit out,

660
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: that would be lovely, nobody all the way, But it's

661
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 3: like they can carry that momentum to keep going forward,

662
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 3: to make it to the big dance, and like, cause

663
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 3: that's I never got there, and I would I would

664
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Speaker 3: love to have had a chance to shot at the

665
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 3: super Bowl, but not everyone making there. But I just

666
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: hope they one can get there and do they can

667
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 3: keep this going for years to come. It's not just

668
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: like a flash in the pants, so to speak, that

669
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Speaker 3: it's like a one and done and then the next

670
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 3: year they's like, oh what happened to those guys? You know?

671
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Speaker 3: But but I think I'm hopeful and I think so

672
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 3: that they will be able to keep this moment on going.

673
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Speaker 1: You said it best, not everybody's able to make it there,

674
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: and I feel that way when it comes to a

675
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: career like yours, not everybody is able to come into

676
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: the league and make an impact that you were able

677
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Speaker 1: to make. So I got a tough question for you.

678
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on the spot right now. This

679
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: is your list, So don't there's no pressure. You can

680
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: say whatever you want, but I need top three Washington

681
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: running backs all time in your opinion. Granted, you know

682
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: we wasn't around years and years and years ago, so

683
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Speaker 1: you don't got to, you know, feel like you were

684
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Speaker 1: obligated to say that, but in your opinion out for more' opinion?

685
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Speaker 1: Who are the top three running backs in Washington.

686
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Speaker 3: All the time? I became in Washington bring because of Clinton.

687
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 3: Porter is when you got traded h for Champ Bailey

688
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 3: two And that was like. I watched him in Denver,

689
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: watching a lot of Denver Denver stand Frank Green Bay.

690
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: It was the only games we can catch on TV.

691
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: My dad was a big fan. So but I started,

692
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: I started. I was watching him. I'm like, man, this

693
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 3: guy's nicely, got a nice him and pre songs going

694
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: back and forth and touchdowns. Anyways, when he trained him, like,

695
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, it's so stupid. He's just and

696
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what, I'm a Washington Frian now,

697
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: so I actually got to pay my favorite team. So

698
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: there's a there's another little nugget that most people didn't

699
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: know that, like Washington was my favorite team, know that,

700
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: So I would say Clinton Porters. I mean, ah, let's see,

701
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, dang, I can't really stay with deal bitch,

702
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: but I just actually love watching with del bitch play too.

703
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: But I can't say he's like one of the top three,

704
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 3: you know, like there's some good backs. Of course, I'm

705
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 3: by the twist Clinton Porters. So man, he you can't

706
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: think Washington backfield without thinking John Reagan, So I have

707
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 3: to put Reagans in there. I have to. So like

708
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: and he's also like madam awesome. God loved him like

709
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: he's he's like the real deal. So and just watch

710
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: I didn't get to watch him growing up, but just

711
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: watch some of his highlights, you know. I was just like, man, like, Okay,

712
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: this dude was he was like eating it. So and

713
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 3: then third, I didn't want to do this, but I'm gonna.

714
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Speaker 1: Have to do it.

715
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 3: I'll have to save me. I'm had to say me. Man.

716
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: I kind of I still to this day like some another

717
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 3: I like, I kind of just think about my career

718
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: and I can go back and look at my highlights

719
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: and I was like, dang, yeah, I hate I do.

720
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if that's like what call it

721
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 3: what you want, but it's just like I do I

722
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 3: go back and bind myself that. I was like, man like,

723
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: like what a career I had? Like what? Look? That

724
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 3: was a lot of fun in watching this, So I

725
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: guess I know. I've never put myself on the list

726
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: when I get a list, but it's the first time

727
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: for everything, so like I'm throwing me on there.

728
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Speaker 1: I love it. Man again, Man, this is a this

729
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: is your walk down memory, lay Man, and I love that.

730
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: I to put you on the list too, because brother man,

731
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: even just preparing for this and go through those stats,

732
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, this is a sixth

733
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: round doing these things. And that actually leads me to

734
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: my final question for you, because when you were a rookie,

735
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: you got to experience the Battle of the Belt wagh,

736
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Speaker 1: which is our matchups against the Baltimore Ravens. We have

737
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: that this Sunday. Do you remember real quick because I

738
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: got them? Do you remember your stats that game?

739
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: H No, I don't. The one thing I remember for

740
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: that game is I mean the linebacker went head up

741
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: and he stopped and fell and I kept going and

742
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: I just remember I feel bad. I think I got

743
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: hurt that guy, but I was like, it doesn't matter.

744
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: I got the yards a game like, but I don't

745
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: know my stats. I knew it. It was a fun

746
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: game and I enjoyed it. And it was like they

747
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: were like I knew they thumb because they still at ray.

748
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 3: I actually met ray Lewis side No, I met ray

749
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: Lewis and I was like, hey, ry Louu was scared

750
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 3: of me, just because he came to the game right after.

751
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: I have my whole life wanted to play against ray

752
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 3: Lewis and the one opportunity to get he's not even

753
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 3: in the game because I think, yeah for something. That's

754
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: the side note. But I don't remember my stats, but

755
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: I do remember that one play with that linebacker and

756
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: like him hitting the ground and me keep running by.

757
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 3: So but yeah, yeah, I don't know what's my stats though.

758
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: Let me tell you the Ravens needed ray Lewis that

759
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: day because you had one hundred and twenty nine yards

760
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: rushing and a touchdown and your performance got you Rookie

761
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: of the Week against the Baltimore Ravens so you had

762
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: yourself a game, and we have some rookies that are

763
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: looking to do the same thing with that Battle of

764
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: the Beltway. So can you tell me, like, I don't

765
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: know if you realize it at the time, but I'm

766
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 1: sure like being back now, you realize like it's not

767
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: really a rivalry, but there's like that play cousin type

768
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: energy with the Baltimore Ravens. With everything being in the DMV,

769
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: can you tell us the importance of back then what

770
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: those Battle of the Beltway games were like, especially against

771
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 1: a Ravens team that was really dominant.

772
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, definitely, So it was I always

773
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 3: thought it was fun. Even when we played them in

774
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: the preseasons someone we always played them, so it was

775
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: like it was almost like a brother like we had

776
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: high key key before the game, after the game, but

777
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 3: between that lines we smashing each other. It's like, you know,

778
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: it's like kind of like a blue little brother versus

779
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: big brother almost, or like these two cousins is always

780
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 3: going to each other. They love each other, but at

781
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: the same time always going at I always trying to

782
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 3: wine up each other, trying to better each other. So

783
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: I think it's one of those like it's a competitive relationship,

784
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 3: but it's like it's a healthy competitives competitiveness between the

785
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 3: two and like the DMV is so interconnected, it's almost

786
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: like we're in ways and I ain't gonna say that.

787
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: So it was a kind of like one team, but

788
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: we're not. We definitely not. There's a distinction between Washington

789
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: and Baltimore. So I'm not gonna sol any our fan

790
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: based or anything like that. So but it is it's

791
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: like this brotherly like love, but it's like I'll knock

792
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: you out, anybody else knock you out.

793
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: So hey, man, well, thank you so much for your

794
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: time and your perspective. Man. Yeah, we know you're a

795
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: busy brother. An before we even got on, you surprised me. Man,

796
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: you had the scrubs on, you had on the hospital mask.

797
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: Tell the people what you're doing these days, man, and

798
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: you know where they can still support you and show

799
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: you love because I'll tell you what, Man, these Washington fans,

800
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: they love you so much, man, and I know they're

801
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: going to be so excited to have heard from you again.

802
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I appreciate it. I honestly, man, Right now,

803
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: I'm a medical medical device here. Didn't know it existed. Uh,

804
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: someone kind of pointing out of direction, was like, I

805
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: want to do that. You know, I've a natomy background.

806
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: I want to be somewhere in the medical field. It's

807
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 3: always going to be there. So started doing this and

808
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 3: doing a little over two years. So I mean I'm

809
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: also like looking for what's the next thing. So, I

810
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: mean there's nothing I canna be supported in it right now.

811
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 3: I don't have like, you know, nonprofit or anything like

812
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: that I'm supporting, but uh maybe one day I would

813
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: love to do something for like like a homeless ministry,

814
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: like doing something with like feeding homeless or just getting

815
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: them shelter or helping them rehab to so they can

816
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: get a job. You know, some of them won't just

817
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: want to live on the streets and some of them,

818
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: you know, some of them don't. They just feel a

819
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: hard times. So I just have a heart when I

820
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 3: especially in Dallas a lot of and uh so when

821
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 3: I go around, I just see them and not stop

822
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 3: and chat with them, and just so eventually I want

823
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: to do something with that. So maybe in the future,

824
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: like that's something I can do and maybe the fan

825
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 3: Basic can help out with that. But as of right now,

826
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: it's like just keep showing your love to his team

827
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: with keep it, keep it electrified.

828
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: Great guy on and off the field. Brother, always pushing

829
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: the envelope man, and that's so impressive. It Just know

830
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: if you ever ever getting into meeting, you always got

831
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: a home with Next Man Up. Man, we will always

832
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: welcome you on. Brother. This has been a great conversation, Alfred,

833
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 1: and we appreciate you so much. Command is family, our

834
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: Next Man Up, a true Washington legend, one of the

835
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: best backs to ever put that helmet on for Washington.

836
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: Alfred Mores, thank you for your time.

837
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: Brother, Thank you. I appreciate it and this family.

838
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839
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840
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842
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