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Speaker 1: Well, good evening everyone, Welcome to Stinchfield, and very Christmas

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: Christmas Eve is upon us.

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Speaker 1: It literally is one of my favorite nights of the year,

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Speaker 1: if not literally the favorite night of the year.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so grateful for you, all.

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Speaker 1: Of you out there joining us on this very special evening.

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Speaker 1: Now we have a great Christmas gift because in just

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Speaker 1: a few weeks President Trump will be sworn in as

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Speaker 1: the next president of the United States of America. He's

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Speaker 1: got a very long agenda. There's a lot of work

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Speaker 1: to do to make America great again. But I can

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Speaker 1: tell you it starts with the border. Nothing means anything

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Speaker 1: if we do not secure our border. Why, illegal immigration

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Speaker 1: affects everything you think about it. It affects the schooling

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Speaker 1: of your kids, as illegal aliens and migrants overwhelm our

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Speaker 1: public school systems. You better believe that illegal immigration affects

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Speaker 1: crime and safety. We've witnessed that unfortunately firsthand, to see

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Speaker 1: our cities literally falling into a state of disrepair and

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Speaker 1: sex traffickers, the rapists, the murderers, the drug dealers, and

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Speaker 1: all the criminals that follow those types of things, so

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Speaker 1: we know it affects that it has an effect on

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Speaker 1: the economy. We know that there's a job issue when

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Speaker 1: it comes to this, the price of housing. You could

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Speaker 1: argue that inflation adds to this. Healthcare overwhelming our hospitals,

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Speaker 1: for city services, and those types of things. All of

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Speaker 1: this falls on illegal immigration. So the bottom line is

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Speaker 1: you have got to secure the border. There's a few

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Speaker 1: easy ways to do this. We know that the Democrats

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Speaker 1: set out to totally deconstruct our border. Okay, they want

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Speaker 1: an open border society, they want no borders at all.

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Speaker 1: We now have, by some estimates, twenty million illegals year.

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Speaker 1: I think the numbers much higher. I think just under

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden alone, when you look at the godaways those

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Speaker 1: through an illegal what I call an illegal loophole, what

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Speaker 1: through Joe Biden, maybe even twenty. Where did it all start.

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Speaker 1: It all goes back to Barack Obama. This is literally

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Speaker 1: what he said in two thousand and eight quote, we

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Speaker 1: of America. That was October thirtieth, two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 1: right before he was elected. He knew what he was

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Speaker 1: So we know that there is a fundamental problem here.

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Speaker 1: Scott Jennings on CNN sums it up like this, But.

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Speaker 3: You can't have a country without laws. And the political

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Speaker 3: reality is that the American people believe the border is

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Speaker 3: not secure, they believe the immigration system is amiss. They

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Speaker 3: major reason he won the election is to clean it up.

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Speaker 3: And part of cleaning it up is saying, if you

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Speaker 3: not giving you special privileges anymore. That's the political bottom line.

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Speaker 1: People now move about this country and they're afraid for

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Speaker 1: their safety. It's not all on illegal Certainly, We've got

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: You can look at what the Democrats have done with

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Speaker 1: But certainly illegal immigration has a large role in the

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Speaker 1: when he says it resonated with the American people, you

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Speaker 2: They know they're having a hard time getting a job.

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Speaker 1: They can't even go work construction because those jobs are

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Speaker 1: We have more Rhinos in the Senate. But again, the

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Speaker 1: President Trump has a plan. These lawmakers get better get

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Speaker 4: I would ask you go talk to some of the

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Speaker 4: Like a Osoff in Georgia, like a Peters in Michigan.

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Speaker 4: You already saw the resounding victory the mandate given to

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Speaker 2: So for those Senate Democrats, I would say.

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Speaker 4: Now is the time to let go of these radical

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Speaker 2: How did this become a partisan issue?

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Speaker 1: Would not everyone agreed that the secure border is part

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Speaker 2: They don't like America.

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Speaker 1: In fact, they hate this country, and they knew the

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Speaker 1: best way to tear it down was open these borders,

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Speaker 1: wide up, wide open. Now do you think that the

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Speaker 1: leftists that Byron Donald's was talking about really care about

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Speaker 2: Coming across the border.

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Speaker 1: They care about them fleeing violence in their country, or oh,

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Speaker 2: The people coming from Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: I understand they're under an oppressive rule, but I'm going

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Speaker 1: to tell you right now, I care more about those

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Speaker 2: And here's here's the reality. If they cared.

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Speaker 1: About those people, they would shut the border down so

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Speaker 2: This is a little ten year old boy.

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Speaker 1: Found wandering around in Mexico on the US borders.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine where's his parents?

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Speaker 1: His parents probably paid some coyote to take him up,

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Speaker 2: Whatever you need, we're gonna take care of you.

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Speaker 1: So right now, just to give us all a kick

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration is racing to sell off the border

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Speaker 1: off all of that. You see that that's steel border wall.

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Speaker 1: They want it gone, and they're selling it for pennies

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Speaker 1: on the dollar. Here's my prediction, President Trump's going to

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Speaker 1: come back in the border wall We've already paid for.

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Speaker 1: Some entrepreneur who knows the United States government is so dumb,

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Speaker 1: and we'll end up buying it back for more expenses,

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Speaker 1: so we will have paid for.

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Speaker 2: The wall twice.

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Speaker 1: This is Joe Biden's gift to you on this Christmas Eve,

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Speaker 1: wasting taxpayer dollars and hoping to slow.

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Speaker 2: Down the securing of our border. It isn't right.

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Speaker 1: So we have to look now that when we get

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Speaker 2: Of the pushback. Guys like borders are.

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Speaker 6: Tom Holman, what's your overarching message to Americans who are

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Speaker 6: eager for major border action? On minute like Inauguration day?

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Speaker 6: One second, d how much will you be able to

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Speaker 2: I've got three words for him dockanall dockall shocking.

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Speaker 1: All sounds good to me. It needs to happen. We

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Speaker 1: take our country back. It starts on the border. Well,

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Speaker 1: joining me now, Border Security and Immigration Center Director for

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Speaker 2: Did I say that right, Laura? Yes? You did?

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Speaker 1: All right, good deal, Laura, Welcome to the program. This

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Speaker 1: couldn't be a more important issue. How difficult is it

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Speaker 1: going to be for President Trump, Tom Holman and the

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Speaker 7: Well, they could start by enforcing the laws on the books.

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Speaker 7: That will go a decent amount of the way to

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Speaker 7: get back to a secure border. These past four years,

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Speaker 7: both CVP agents and ICE agents have been chained to

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Speaker 7: who came in the past four years, but before that

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Speaker 7: as well, who have no right to be here.

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Speaker 1: All right, I read a report that you wrote for

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Speaker 1: the Herritage Foundation, and it was spot on.

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Speaker 2: I like to see.

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Speaker 1: I say it's spot on because it reiterated a lot

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Speaker 1: of things that I believe should happen with our immigration system.

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Speaker 1: And I think the left is surprised to hear when

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Speaker 1: want this immigration system streamlined, I want it simplified, and

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Speaker 1: I still want it secure, but streamlined and simplified.

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Speaker 1: But that cannot happen without a secure border, am I right?

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Speaker 7: That's right? You know, legal immigration illegal immigration are two

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Speaker 7: to have a secure border. We also have to enforce

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Speaker 7: the laws that Congress passed. But once we get past that,

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Speaker 7: what are we returning to. Well, we have considerable backlogs

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Speaker 7: And why is that. It's because there's a lot of

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Speaker 7: and frankly, we should pause in taking any more applications

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Speaker 8: And so.

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Speaker 7: Immigration law is often described as the second most complex

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Speaker 7: set of laws after the tax code, and it's correct.

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Speaker 7: Every rule in the statute has multiple exemptions and waivers

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Speaker 7: It's not simple, it's expensive, it's frustrating, and it's slow.

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Speaker 7: And FRANKLYUIS should chuck the ina out the door and

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Speaker 7: start over with a much simpler system that would prevent

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Speaker 7: so much of this.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: The other side of that, too, is from the immigrants perspective.

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Speaker 1: If you're told that it's going to take you five

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Speaker 1: legally to come to the United States, well you might

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Speaker 1: as well just go try to sneak in, because you

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Speaker 1: know that five years for someone in that position.

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Speaker 2: Is a lifetime. If they told you it's going to take.

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Speaker 2: Hi, thank you, Grant.

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Speaker 10: You know, I was just thinking about that. This is

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Speaker 2: How do you deport those people?

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Speaker 11: Well, you have to do a thorough investigation on what

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Speaker 12: So the thing is.

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Speaker 11: You already know that I already threaten you and it

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Oscar Ramirez, ben Berkwam, you guys are awesome. Merry Christmas

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Speaker 1: President Trump has made some picks. Now, he's got a

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Speaker 1: new FTC commissioner who's nominated for chairman, Andrew Ferguson. This

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Speaker 1: guy's an antitrust guy, which is a good thing I

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Speaker 1: want to bring in now, Director of State and Federal

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Speaker 1: Affairs for net Choice, Amy Boss is here.

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Speaker 2: Amy, Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 8: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Amy, it's great to have you on your hope for

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Speaker 1: the FTC and free speech online.

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Speaker 8: Yes, so starting with that, I mean, first order under

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Speaker 8: the new administry, the government has to get out of

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Speaker 8: the business of colluding with companies to take down content.

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Speaker 8: We saw this during COVID is probably the best example,

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Speaker 8: you know, having the government coming in and saying, what

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Speaker 8: is misinformation or disinformation?

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Speaker 9: That was absurd?

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Speaker 8: One considers disinformation We learned the next week to be

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Speaker 8: the truth. So I think that's number one, and you're

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Speaker 8: seeing House Republicans really take the lead on this. So

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Speaker 8: I do expect legislation to move in Congress next year

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Speaker 8: on this. But two to your next point, the FTC chair,

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Speaker 8: I think we're going to get a breath of fresh

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Speaker 8: air from the new Commissioner, Andrew Ferguson. You know, I

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Speaker 8: will say frankly, I think any pick will be a

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Speaker 8: major change and improvement from the past four years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hope.

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Speaker 1: So and so now we move into this process of

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Speaker 1: getting them confirmed. We have a bunch of anti trust

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Speaker 1: lawsuits as well. You've got Amazon in.

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Speaker 2: On the mix.

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Speaker 1: Where do you folks come down on this? Because I

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Speaker 1: don't like monopolies and I don't like collusion, and I

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Speaker 1: see that from a lot of these places.

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Speaker 8: Sure, I think number one anti trust law needs to

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Speaker 8: be enforced, right, But what we've seen these past four

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Speaker 8: years under Lena Khan at the FTC and our counterpart

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Speaker 8: at the DOJ is really stretching the law and really

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Speaker 8: going after companies simply because of their size, simply because

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Speaker 8: they may be disfavored. Success is not illegal, being big

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Speaker 8: is not illegal. We really need to focus and return

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Speaker 8: the agency back to what is best for consumers. That

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Speaker 8: has been what has guided anti trust law for the

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Speaker 8: past forty years, and we need a return to that

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Speaker 8: independent agency and a return to bipartisanship.

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Speaker 1: Look, I think, look, even I may fall guilty when

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Speaker 1: I look at an Amazon and I see how big

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Speaker 1: it is. It's pushed the mom and pops out, and

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Speaker 1: I understand they're doing things for cheaper and less money

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Speaker 1: in many respects. Maybe that's a problem that the United

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Speaker 1: States lawmakers here in this country have set up a

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Speaker 1: system for them to succeed like that by forcing things overseas.

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Speaker 1: But I don't want to see every product coming into

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Speaker 1: America through Amazon is from China, and here we have.

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Speaker 2: American companies suffering. How do you balance that? Sure?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you're going to see a more measured

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Speaker 8: approach from the Trumpet administration. Yes, there are these lawsuits

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Speaker 8: against Google, against Amazon, Biden and Harrison administration has.

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Speaker 9: Called for their breakup.

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Speaker 8: I don't I think you're going to get again a

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Speaker 8: more measured approach. They're not going to abandon these lawsuits altogether.

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Speaker 8: They're going to enforce the law where it is.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And really that's all you can ask of someone, just

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Speaker 1: enforce the law. Isn't that a breath of fresh air.

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Speaker 1: We have a making up laws. We have them enforcing

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Speaker 1: laws that don't exist. We have them not enforcing laws.

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Speaker 1: It's been a while four years, but maybe all that

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Speaker 1: will will change. Amy, Boss, I appreciate you coming on tonight.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you so much for having me. Absolutely

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Speaker 2: very Christmas to you. We appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: All right, folks, it is not an easy conversation, but

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Speaker 1: we hope in this new year that child mutilation or

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Speaker 1: gender dysphoria will end up in history's dumpster.

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Speaker 2: That's next. Well, folks, welcome back. It is not fun flying, right, folks.

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Speaker 1: Anyone that goes to the airport, take a flight anywhere,

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Speaker 1: now knows that you're gonna be plagued with delays. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna get hit with fees, whether it's on your bags,

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Speaker 1: whether it's on your seats, whatever it's on snacks. It's

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Speaker 1: gotten quite out of control. Well, the United States Senate,

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Speaker 1: hell they hearing on this. Did you know the five

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Speaker 1: biggest airlines took in three billion dollars worth of seat fees.

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Speaker 1: Spirit and Frontier actually bonus employees to the two and

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Speaker 1: twenty six million dollars to act like the Gestapo for

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Speaker 1: anybody getting on the plane with a bag.

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Speaker 2: Here's the CEO admitting it. We recognize this as a

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Speaker 2: hard job and so therefore we incentivize them to do that.

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Speaker 10: How much it's ten dollars per bag?

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Speaker 14: Wow? Ten dollars per bag. And I think mister Klein,

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Speaker 14: you and mister Shorter your your airlines cumulatively have spent

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Speaker 14: twenty six million dollars paying gate agents between twenty twenty

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Speaker 14: two and twenty twenty three to catch passengers whose bags

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Speaker 14: are a little bit too big. Twenty six million dollars.

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Speaker 14: I mean, if people want to know why it's such

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Speaker 14: a terrible experience to fly, this is news for them today.

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Speaker 2: Let's get done so.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Ten dollars a bag that explain you got

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Speaker 1: your carry on and guy or girl says, oh, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: that's I put it in the put it in the

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Speaker 1: measuring box over there.

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Speaker 2: You're not going on the plane with that. It's the

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Speaker 2: most annoying thing ever.

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Speaker 1: You just paid one thousand dollars for a ticket to

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Speaker 1: get from Dallas to California, and they're not letting you

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Speaker 1: carry on a bag that's this much over the stuff factor.

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Speaker 2: They get ten dollars apiece. Go figure.

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Speaker 1: I want to turn now to another big hearing, this

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Speaker 1: one not in the United States Senate, but in the

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Speaker 1: United States Supreme Court over transgender care.

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Speaker 2: This is about that Tennessee law that.

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Speaker 1: Blocks doctors from basically mutilating kids prescribing hormone doctors to

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Speaker 1: children with or without parents permission.

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Speaker 2: And here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm not one to stand in the way of doctor

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Speaker 1: patient treatment.

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Speaker 2: I'm really not.

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Speaker 1: I think that should be between patient and doctor. I'm

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Speaker 1: all for even experimenting with drugs, but here's the difference

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Speaker 1: these are they don't get a say in the deal.

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Speaker 2: And if the parents are being abusive.

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Speaker 1: In what they are pushing on their children, that's where

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Speaker 1: the government has to step in when one party in

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Speaker 1: the deal doesn't really get a say or is incapable

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Speaker 1: of making a decision. And I believe we look at

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Speaker 1: society as kids they're eighteen and under their kids, they

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Speaker 1: don't get a say, So I'm okay with this. Justice

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Speaker 1: Alito talked about this that the surgeries seem to be

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Speaker 1: a money grab.

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Speaker 15: True in every respect, but on page one ninety five

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Speaker 15: for the CAST report, it says there is no evidence

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Speaker 15: that gender affirmative treatments reduce suicide.

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Speaker 9: What I think that is referring to is there.

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Speaker 8: Is no evidence in the studies that this treatment reduces

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Speaker 8: completed suicide.

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Speaker 16: And the reason for that is completed suicide, thankfully and

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Speaker 16: admittedly is rare.

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Speaker 1: Well, folks, I want to bring in someone who is

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Speaker 1: very seasoned to weigh in on all of this. She

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Speaker 1: spoke outside the Supreme Court yesterday as a de transitioner

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Speaker 1: and Independent Women's Forum Ambassador Priscia Moseley is with us.

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Speaker 2: Priscia, it is great to have you on the program.

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Speaker 9: Hi, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: All right, Priscia, So your story is important because you

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Speaker 1: transition to a man, realized it was a mistake, and

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Speaker 1: then detransitioned.

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Speaker 2: Please tell me what that experience was like.

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Speaker 16: Well, actually, I didn't transition into a man at all.

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Speaker 9: That's what my doctors told me was going to happen.

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Speaker 16: And that's what is the purpose of all of the

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Speaker 16: euphemisms and all of that gender affirming hare and top surgery.

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Speaker 16: They're all lies to promote this scam, this fraud. But

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Speaker 16: humans can't change sex. It's impossible. What happened was I

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Speaker 16: was a girl who was experiencing distress related to puberty

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Speaker 16: and related to trauma, and instead of treating me for

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Speaker 16: that distress, my doctors told me that making my body

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Speaker 16: look like a boy's body would take all the distress away.

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Speaker 16: And it didn't. I didn't become a man or a boy.

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Speaker 16: I became a girl who took unnecessary wrong sex hormones

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Speaker 16: and how to bilateral double misseectomy on my healthy breasts

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Speaker 16: just because.

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Speaker 2: I was sad. Prisia, how old were you when you

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Speaker 2: went through this.

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Speaker 16: The medicalization with hormones started at sixteen, and I had

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Speaker 16: just turned eighteen when I had my double misseectomy.

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Speaker 1: All right, So this is a tough question because this

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Speaker 1: gets to the heart of the Tennessee law. This is

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Speaker 1: about parents wanting control over their kids. The parents in

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Speaker 1: Tennessee says, if we want to do this for our children,

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Speaker 1: we know better. You had parents involved. Where were they

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Speaker 1: on all of this? Were you driving the train on this?

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Speaker 1: Were they driving the train? Were the doctors driving the train?

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Speaker 2: How did it go down?

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Speaker 9: It was the doctors driving the train.

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Speaker 16: My parents never thought that I was a boy or

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Speaker 16: I was in the wrong body, but they did know

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Speaker 16: that they had a child who was suicidal and not

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Speaker 16: doing well. And when I went to my doctors and

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Speaker 16: said that I felt like a boy, they repainted all

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Speaker 16: of my symptoms as gender dysphoria and said, and they

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Speaker 16: were adamant about the fact that making myself look like

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Speaker 16: a boy would take it all away. And my parents

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Speaker 16: were blackmailed into consenting. There are really two different types

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Speaker 16: of parents in this. There are parents that blackmailed their

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Speaker 16: children and their parents that are blackmailed by the doctors.

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Speaker 16: Not all of the parents are innocent in this, but

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Speaker 16: some of them are victims of the doctors too.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm a dad, I got a fifteen year old boy.

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Speaker 1: If a doctor's telling you your kid's going to commit

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Speaker 1: suicide whether unless you do this to them, what a

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Speaker 1: flux that would throw any parent into. Which is why

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Speaker 1: in some respects I like the Tennessee law because every

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Speaker 1: piece of m and I've seen seeing these these surgeries

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Speaker 1: don't work, and they don't save lives, and they only

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Speaker 1: cause problems.

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Speaker 2: Would you agree with that?

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Speaker 9: I completely agree.

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Speaker 16: There's no evidence that it reduces suicide, as we heard

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Speaker 16: reported yesterday, even by proponents for gender affirming care, which

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Speaker 16: is really sex destroying harm. Parents don't have any right

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Speaker 16: to take away the health of their children. Doctors don't

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Speaker 16: have the right to trick parents into consenting to their

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Speaker 16: children being experimented on.

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Speaker 9: It doesn't help anyone. It just takes away your health.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 1: If the Tennessee law was in place in your state

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Speaker 1: where you went through this at the time, would that

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Speaker 1: have saved you great physical pain, heartache, headache, and the

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Speaker 1: rest of it.

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Speaker 16: Yes, I was a minor when I started my medicalization,

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Speaker 16: and I wasn't well. I wasn't stable, and I couldn't.

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Speaker 16: I wasn't that capacity to consent. And even though I

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Speaker 16: had turned eighteen when I had my surgery, it was

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Speaker 16: being roomed as a child that made me a vulnerable

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Speaker 16: and confused adult. And if that hadn't been allowed to happen,

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Speaker 16: if my doctors had maybe been afraid of accountability that

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Speaker 16: came with tricking me or scamming patients, maybe it wouldn't

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Speaker 16: have happened at all, and there would be a lot

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Speaker 16: more normalcy and peace in my life.

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Speaker 1: I have heard that the D transition is often worse

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Speaker 1: and more painful than the transition itself.

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Speaker 9: That's true.

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Speaker 16: Not only is it more difficult, but we're all doing

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Speaker 16: so that means there's also not any way to track

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Speaker 16: how many people have de transitioned.

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Speaker 9: But there's no way for us to build for our

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Speaker 16: In some states, including my state, Michigan, there are laws

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Speaker 16: restricting even giving care to D transitioners because they count

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you I believe, and I know it

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Speaker 1: sounds corny that things happen for a reason, but Priscia,

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Speaker 1: maybe you went through some of this so you can

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Speaker 1: help others down down the road. In the end, I

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Speaker 1: think your voice is phenomenal when it comes to something

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Speaker 9: Thank you. I'm so grateful that you're listening. Thank you.

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Speaker 9: I hope other people listen. I don't want anyone else

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Speaker 2: Thank you absolutely, and it's a great point. We appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Prishia Mosley, thank you for coming on today. And you

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Speaker 2: know it's amazing. You know, I'm a talk show host.

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Speaker 2: You know what my firm belief is.

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Speaker 1: The best talk show hosts are the ones that listen.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Bitcoin surges over one hundred thousand dollars overnight per coin. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and many are saying this is part of the Trump effect.

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Speaker 1: It is, we'll talk about it next. Welcome back everyone.

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Speaker 1: How about this?

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Speaker 2: Bitcoin is on.

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Speaker 1: The move yesterday, pushing up over one hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: per coin.

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Speaker 2: This has been making the stock market.

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Speaker 1: I believe this is all part of President Trump's resurging

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Speaker 1: back onto the scene, going to be going into the

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Speaker 1: White House on January twentieth.

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Speaker 2: I think that.

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Speaker 1: There is certainty back in the market. I think there

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Speaker 1: is optimism back in not just the stock market, but

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Speaker 1: also the cryptocurrency market, as President Trump is now widely

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Speaker 1: known as the cryptocurrency President. So bitcoin going on? Is

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Speaker 1: it it the cop I don't think so. You know,

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Speaker 1: I look at bitcoin. It's called cryptocurrency, but I don't

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Speaker 1: really look at it as currency. I look at it

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Speaker 1: as a commodity. I can buy pork bellies and invest

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Speaker 1: in it. I can't really trade it. There's some time

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Speaker 1: you can trade you bitcoin. Advice it, but it's very,

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Speaker 1: very difficult, to be honest with you, an old guy

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Speaker 1: like me has a hard time doing it.

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Speaker 2: But I look at it as a commodity.

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Speaker 1: I look at it as a part of my investment

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Speaker 1: portfolio that will operate and maybe be even somewhat of

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Speaker 1: a safe haven from the dollar. And I want to

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Speaker 1: collect it as much as I can. Well, joining me

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Speaker 1: now to talk about the bitcoin craze, where it's headed,

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Speaker 1: what this means, what's responsible for it? Is the chief

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Speaker 1: operating officer of the company called NFN eight Group. They

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Speaker 1: mind bitcoin at an institutional level and for full transparency here.

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Speaker 1: I am an investor with n f N eight Group

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Speaker 1: and it has been fabulous. I don't have to deal

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Speaker 1: with the wild swings. I literally just deal mine on

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Speaker 1: the bitcoin and sell it up.

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Speaker 2: That's a whole nother story.

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Speaker 1: But I want to bring in Corey Rodriguez because I

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Speaker 1: have great respect for him and his knowledge of all

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Speaker 1: of this.

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Speaker 2: Corey, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 12: Thank you for having me. And I'm going to make

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Speaker 12: a correction. It did hit one hundred and four thousand

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Speaker 12: last night, Bin all right.

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Speaker 1: So it's back down about ninety seven thousand.

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Speaker 2: Now, why do you think the surge?

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Speaker 12: President Trump? Right, I mean, he's a He's the first

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Speaker 12: president that has made a purchase on bigcoin. He's the

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Speaker 12: first president who's endorsing bigcoin. He is the first president

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Speaker 12: that wants to bring more bigcoin into into the marketplace.

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Speaker 12: And you know, thanks to him and with the new

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Speaker 12: regulations he's going to be putting up, we're very excited

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Speaker 12: as institutional minors.

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Speaker 1: Let me play a clip from you. This is the

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Speaker 1: FED chairman, Jerome Powell. We now have the FED chair

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Speaker 1: talking about bitcoin. And I know that in the United

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Speaker 1: States government many respects want its own digital current and see,

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Speaker 1: which I think is very, very dangerous. They want to

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Speaker 1: track everything you do. Can't do that with bitcoin. Let

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Speaker 1: me play this clip from Jerome Powell.

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Speaker 2: People use bitcoin as a speculative asset, right. It's it's

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Speaker 2: like gold. It's just like gold, only it's virtual. It's digital.

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Speaker 1: People are not using it as a form of payment

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Speaker 1: or is a store of value.

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Speaker 2: It's highly volatile. It's it's it's not a competitor for

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Speaker 2: the dollar. It's really a competitor for gold. You know.

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Speaker 2: It's That's really how I think of it.

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Speaker 1: I see you shaking your head. Corey Rodrigue is with

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Speaker 1: n FNA Group.

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Speaker 12: Why well, Lisa, we're now starting to see bitcoin adopted

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Speaker 12: in the marketplace, the transactions that are going on with

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Speaker 12: bitcoin from institutional I mean, look at the look at

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Speaker 12: all the institutions, financial institutions like black Rock, Fidelity, Marathon Riots,

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Speaker 12: They have spent hundreds of millions of dollars adapting to

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Speaker 12: bitcoin and mining bitcoin on a daily basis. I think

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Speaker 12: howel is a little bit outdated. He put out an

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Speaker 12: article the other day.

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Speaker 9: Like you said, it's like gold but even better.

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Speaker 12: So where you're going to now start seeing bigcoin being

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Speaker 12: widely used in the retail marketplace and more on the

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Speaker 12: institutional side as well.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, so this gets involved in your business.

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Speaker 1: You mine the bitcoin at an institutional level. You seem

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Speaker 1: to me when I talk to you, you're not playing

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Speaker 1: the wild swings of bitcoins, the ups and downs, the

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Speaker 1: buying and selling. You're mining and pushing it out. Is

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Speaker 1: that is that your industry?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: So as institutional miners, we're able to mine bitcoin way

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Speaker 12: way way below spot price, and they're able to liquidate

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Speaker 12: the big cooin on the open market for full market

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Speaker 12: trade value. And that's the benefit of being an institutional miner. Again,

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Speaker 12: we mind way below the spot price and we cash

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Speaker 12: out in US dollars every twenty four to seventy two hours.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: So that's where the investment came in again, full transparency.

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Speaker 1: I've invested with you guys to do this and it's

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Speaker 1: working absolutely great.

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Speaker 2: But here's my other question. What happened with bitcoin?

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Speaker 1: It seems like there has been all of these other

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Speaker 1: ancillary parts of the industry where people are making money growing.

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Speaker 1: This is only going to get bigger. I don't think

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand is the top, do you.

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Speaker 12: I you know, no one has a crystal ball here.

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Speaker 12: But I truly believe once President Trump takes office, you're

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Speaker 12: going to really see the big swing in bitcoin. You know,

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Speaker 12: a lot of industry people like myself, we believe that

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Speaker 12: bitcoin will be a two hundred thousand by the end

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Speaker 12: of twenty twenty five. And as President Trump endorses and

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Speaker 12: talks about it. And by the way, President Trump just

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Speaker 12: hired a new SEC I forgot his name, pardon me,

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Speaker 12: he was just he's now coming into office in January

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Speaker 12: who's a big, a big advocate of bigcoin, knows all

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Speaker 12: about cryptocurrency. And again you're going to see the prompt administration,

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Speaker 12: we believe, promoting bigcoin to its fullest. And you know

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Speaker 12: he's looking now also to cash in half the gold

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Speaker 12: reserves into bitcoin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing. It's amazing to watch. And they call

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Speaker 1: him the crypto President for a reason. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to gold, I would love for them

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Speaker 1: to audit Fort Knox. I'm not sure how much America

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Speaker 1: really has in gold. Nobody really has said, so I

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Speaker 1: would love for that to be audited.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: The COO of NFN eight group, Corey Rodriguez, my friend,

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming on tonight.

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Speaker 12: Hey, thank you for having me pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 12: Have a nice.

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Speaker 1: Evening by pleasure as well. N f N eight dot

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Speaker 1: com is his website. Checking in nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 2: Who remembers that I was in high school.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna give you a little look of the nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 1: Does it compare to Trump's twenty twenty five, twenty six,

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty eight, Maybe that's next. Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 1: I have great hopes for America. I mean, look tomorrow's Christmas.

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Speaker 1: I remember back to when I was in high school

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Speaker 1: and things were so freaking great. We went back to

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Speaker 2: Check this out.

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Speaker 1: This is it's nuts.

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Speaker 2: Een eighties, Mall Syne.

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Speaker 1: Back when life was good, right, Ronald Reagan was in office, America.

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Speaker 2: Was on a roll.

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Speaker 1: It was about as fabulous as.

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Speaker 2: You could possibly imagine. Somebody outfits.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not going back to nineteen eighties outfits, but

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Speaker 1: let's go back to Ronald Reagan style success. I guess

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Speaker 1: if I really wanted to, I could end up showing

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Speaker 1: you video from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty when we

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Speaker 1: were doing pretty good too, except for COVID, I guess, but.

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Speaker 2: The Democrats and the left really hammered us with that. No.

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Speaker 1: Seriously, great hopes for the next four years thanks to

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Speaker 1: President Trump, and really thanks to all of you. You

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Speaker 1: got to take a big role in all of that.

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Speaker 1: Stinchfield's army roles. Speaking of that, Merry Christmas, enjoy it

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Speaker 1: do a shameless plug?

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 1: Santa goes to my website all the time. Grant Stenchfield

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Speaker 1: dot com, Grant Stenchfield dot com. Thanks for watching, everybody.

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Speaker 1: I so appreciate you, so appreciate everybody behind the glass.

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to the whole crew that puts the show on.

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Speaker 2: We'll see us soon.