WEBVTT - The Power of Interpretation

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Stephen Ferdick.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the pastor of Elevation Church, and this is our

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<v Speaker 2>podcast and I wanted to thank you for joining us today.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope this inspires you. Hope it builds your faith. Hope

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<v Speaker 2>it gives you perspective to see God is moving.

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<v Speaker 1>In your life. Enjoy the message.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go in our bibles now to Genesis chapter forty

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<v Speaker 2>for the final week of our series. Trigger at least

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the final week, but we'll preach.

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<v Speaker 1>It and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been preaching about taking back your mind in

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<v Speaker 2>the age of anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>But looking at you, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Seem to be completely now free of stress, and it

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<v Speaker 2>seems as if you have gotten the message, and we

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<v Speaker 2>can call it quits after today. But this last message

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<v Speaker 2>that I want to bring to you, I hope will

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<v Speaker 2>be as profound to you hearing it as it was

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<v Speaker 2>to me as I studied for it, and ask that

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<v Speaker 2>you consider it peerfully, because it's one of those messages

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<v Speaker 2>where if you try to understand it with your mind,

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<v Speaker 2>you won't get the most out of it. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you'll listen at a different level and see what God wants.

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<v Speaker 1>To speak to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that he will welcome to every single location.

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<v Speaker 2>I pray that you would lean into this word wherever

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<v Speaker 2>you are and receive something from the Lord. Genesis, chapter forty,

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<v Speaker 2>verse five. Let's jump right into the middle of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And one night they both dreamed, the cupbearer and the

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<v Speaker 2>baker and the King of Egypt, who were confined in

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<v Speaker 2>the prison, each his own dream, and each dream with

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<v Speaker 2>its own interpretation. When Joseph came to them in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>he saw that they were trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>So he asked Pharaoh's officers, who were.

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<v Speaker 2>With him in custody in his master's house, why are

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<v Speaker 2>your faces downcast today? And they said to him, we

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<v Speaker 2>have had dreams and there is no one to interpret them.

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<v Speaker 2>And Joseph said to them, do not interpretations belong to God?

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<v Speaker 2>That was the question that got me started on this

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<v Speaker 2>quest to preach this message today. Do not interpretations belong

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<v Speaker 2>to God? Please tell them to me. Now I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to do something kind of weird. I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 2>to a New Testament scripture. One verse of scripture that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't seem to go together on the surface with the

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<v Speaker 2>one I just read, but it does seemed like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Peanut butter and mayonnaise, but it's really jelly. So go

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<v Speaker 2>to First Corinthians fourteen three, and here Paul is giving

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<v Speaker 2>some instructions to the Corinthian Church about orderly worship, and

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<v Speaker 2>he says, therefore, one who speaks in a tongue should pray.

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<v Speaker 1>For the power to interpret.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, therefore, one who speaks in a tongue should pray

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<v Speaker 2>for the power to interpret. I want to lift that

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<v Speaker 2>phrase from my message title today and talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>about the power of interpretation. Very very, very good stuff

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<v Speaker 2>come in your way today from the word of God,

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<v Speaker 2>not from me, but from God.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's really the starting point for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I realize that you come to church not to hear

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, but to hear a correct interpretation of the

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<v Speaker 2>Word of God God for your life, and an application

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<v Speaker 2>so that it is not only a historical document, but

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<v Speaker 2>so that it becomes flesh, and so that the Spirit

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<v Speaker 2>of God would breathe into your situation. Understanding this, I've

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<v Speaker 2>already mentioned that many backgrounds attend church. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>read First Corinthians fourteen, verse thirteen, and Paul is talking

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<v Speaker 2>about speaking in tongues, you know half the church had flashbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you really want to start a good YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>food fight, just talk about tongues in the church, because

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<v Speaker 2>some people have a private prayer language where they speak

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<v Speaker 2>in tongues, and it is very beautiful and helpful to

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<v Speaker 2>many of us who believe in Jesus to pray that way.

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<v Speaker 2>But yet other people have been told, well, if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't speak in tongues, you're not full of the Holy Spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>Never mind the fact that Paul here is saying that

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<v Speaker 2>every spiritual gift is only given to build others up,

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<v Speaker 2>not to showcase your status and how much more spiritual

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<v Speaker 2>you are. I mean, spiritual gifts are just that there

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<v Speaker 2>are gifts. And what's far more important to God than

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<v Speaker 2>us going around condescending to others because of our spiritual gift,

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<v Speaker 2>is that we would cultivate the fruit of the Spirit

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<v Speaker 2>in our lives. Things like love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness,

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<v Speaker 2>and self control. These are the graces God would have

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<v Speaker 2>us to grow in. But right now, if I really

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<v Speaker 2>preached on First Corinthians fourteen thirteen, the Elevation Church YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>comment section would get busier than it ever has in

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<v Speaker 2>the history. I don't know how you type in tongues

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<v Speaker 2>on a YouTube comment. But Paul is saying here what

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<v Speaker 2>really matters isn't what is said as much as the

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<v Speaker 2>interpretation of it, because you know what's true here about

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<v Speaker 2>this spiritual gift of speaking in tongues, where one person

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<v Speaker 2>may speak in a heavenly language and someone needs to

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<v Speaker 2>turnpret it so that it can be understood. It is

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<v Speaker 2>not only true about languages, it is true about life.

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<v Speaker 2>To really live successfully, or maybe we could say a

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<v Speaker 2>more biblical word, faithfully for God, I need the correct interpretation.

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<v Speaker 2>Touch somebody next to you and say I need an interpretation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I need an interpretation to be a good husband because

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<v Speaker 2>men and women are different. And if I don't learn

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<v Speaker 2>to interpret, if I don't learn to understand that nothing

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<v Speaker 2>is wrong does not mean literally on the surface, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>is wrong. And by the way, most people when they

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<v Speaker 2>say literally, it doesn't mean literally.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally died. Think you mean figuratively.

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<v Speaker 2>Touch somebody, say I need an interpretation. I need an

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<v Speaker 2>interpretation to be able to raise my kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'll be thinking they're ungrateful when really they're just adolescent.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you want to play back the tape.

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<v Speaker 2>From when I was their age, well, let's don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Touch somebody say I need an interpretation. That's what Paul

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<v Speaker 2>is talking about. And really, no one's life illustrates this

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<v Speaker 2>more than the Old Testament character Joseph. I mentioned him,

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<v Speaker 2>and I read this scripture that I want to revisit

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<v Speaker 2>now in Genesis chapter forty, concerning the power of interpretation. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Joseph's life could be used to illustrate injustice.

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<v Speaker 1>He was abused and actually survived, and.

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<v Speaker 2>A near assassination from his brothers, and years later in

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<v Speaker 2>his life he was dealing with false allegations of sexual

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<v Speaker 2>misconduct and that landed him in prison, which is what

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<v Speaker 2>put him in this position in Genesis chapter forty, the

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<v Speaker 2>situation he was in. Okay, principle number one and this

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<v Speaker 2>is not coming up on the screen, So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>write it down if it seems like it's worth writing

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<v Speaker 2>down to you, if you just got to write something down,

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<v Speaker 2>write this down.

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<v Speaker 1>My situation is not as important as my interpretation of

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<v Speaker 1>my situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean to sound like doctor SEUs to you,

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<v Speaker 2>but what I'm trying to say it is a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times we want an intervention from God in our

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<v Speaker 2>situation instead of that God will often give us a

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<v Speaker 2>different interpretation of the situation, and he won't necessarily change it.

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<v Speaker 2>He will change us in the way we see our situation.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the reasons we fight in church is

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<v Speaker 2>because we don't respect that other believers could read the

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<v Speaker 2>same scripture that we read and have a different interpretation,

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<v Speaker 2>and other people could watch the same news stories that

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<v Speaker 2>we watch and have a different interpretation, because interpretation is

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<v Speaker 2>based on many different things and filtered through the lens

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<v Speaker 2>of your life experiences and your cultural background and even

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<v Speaker 2>your intellectual ability, and some of us don't have as

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<v Speaker 2>much to work with, and so you know, we see

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<v Speaker 2>things more simple than they really are, and they're really complex.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, somebody says this about evolution, and somebody

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<v Speaker 2>says this about creation.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're reading the same story.

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<v Speaker 2>With a different interpretation, and it doesn't necessarily mean that

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<v Speaker 2>you're wrong and I'm right, and you're going to hell

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to heaven. And we get so triggered

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<v Speaker 2>going off on people who believe in the same God.

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<v Speaker 2>But just because I have a different interpretation doesn't give

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<v Speaker 2>you the right to be God and tell me that

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<v Speaker 2>my interpretation is not valid.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on clap like that blessed you, even though I

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<v Speaker 1>know has stepped on your toes a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So Joseph is in prison and he should

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<v Speaker 2>be in a bad mood. He should be having pity party,

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<v Speaker 2>day number seven hundred and forty three of his pity party,

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<v Speaker 2>since Potiphar's wife said, you know that he tried to

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<v Speaker 2>rape her, and he should.

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<v Speaker 1>Be reflecting on all of his brothers trying to.

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<v Speaker 2>Kill him, and yet he had the presence of mine,

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<v Speaker 2>like Reggie Miller in the thirty for thirty Dot where

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<v Speaker 2>he says to these men who are in prison with him,

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<v Speaker 2>what's wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>You look sad? Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine you've had his life, but you still are looking

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<v Speaker 2>at others through the lens of what's wrong with them?

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<v Speaker 2>And imagine you have so much resentment and you're in prison,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, you were able to still release empathy.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of living in your own resentment. Y'all. I am

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<v Speaker 1>preaching so hard right now, and I don't even have

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<v Speaker 1>to raise my voice to do it. He said, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the matter with you, you man?

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<v Speaker 2>And they said to him, we've had dreams and there's

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<v Speaker 2>no one interpret him. Joseph said, do not interpretations belong

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<v Speaker 2>to God.

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<v Speaker 1>Now nose why he didn't say, I have the power

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<v Speaker 1>of gret skul. I have the power of.

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<v Speaker 2>Interpretation, he said, And God can make sense of this,

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<v Speaker 2>who I believe deep down in your soul. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>you came to church, because only God can make sense

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<v Speaker 2>of some of the things that I feel and that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going through. And I need God to make sense

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<v Speaker 2>of this. So Joseph said, look, how polite he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Please tell them to me, please, I want to help you.

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<v Speaker 1>And the chief.

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<v Speaker 2>Cupbearer who used to bring Pharaoh his wine, said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it was weird man.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna just tell you like I dreamed.

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<v Speaker 2>It, because in the Old Testament, you know, they put

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more stock in their dreams than we do today.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think that you should necessarily think every

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<v Speaker 2>dream that you have comes from God either.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's pizza.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of the times has had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 2>with the Lord or your purpose in life. But when

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<v Speaker 2>the man started talking, he said, it was a vine

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<v Speaker 2>that I saw in my dream, and then there were

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<v Speaker 2>like three branches coming off the vine, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>they were like ripe right away, and all three of

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<v Speaker 2>them are filled with grapes. So I started squeezing the grapes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was holding Pharaoh's cup and I handed it

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<v Speaker 2>back to him. What does that mean? Joseph's like three

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<v Speaker 2>branches three days in three days. We could preach about that,

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't we from the perspective of something else that happened

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<v Speaker 2>after three days.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're not going to do that today.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, three days, Pharaoh's going to lift your head,

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<v Speaker 2>put you back in your rightful position.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the interpretation.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I remember there were two men and they both

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<v Speaker 2>had dreams, and the other one's standing over and he

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<v Speaker 2>hears the interpretation that Joseph gave to the cupbearer.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's the Pharaoh's chief baker.

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<v Speaker 2>And apparently Pharaoh is easily triggered because he threw both

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<v Speaker 2>of them in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>But we don't know what for.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe the brought him pumper nickel and he really wanted

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<v Speaker 2>rye or something like that. Or the Easter rolls weren't hot,

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<v Speaker 2>and so when he brings it out the bread, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>Pharaoh flies off the handle. And Joseph's life can be

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<v Speaker 2>understood through many different constructs, but one way to look

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<v Speaker 2>at it is there three major interpretations this is the

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<v Speaker 2>first one.

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<v Speaker 1>He tells the cupbearer three days, Pharaoh's going to put

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<v Speaker 1>you back in your position.

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<v Speaker 2>The baker hears this while Joseph is saying, and when

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<v Speaker 2>you get out of here, mention me to Pharaoh because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't deserve.

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<v Speaker 1>To be here.

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<v Speaker 2>So don't forget your boy who came through when you

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<v Speaker 2>get out. And the baker now he's waiting his turn

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<v Speaker 2>in line because he wants out of Shawshank as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he says, ooh, ooh, ooh, do mine do

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<v Speaker 1>my dream? I had a dream too, Can you do

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<v Speaker 1>my dream? And Joseph says, tell me your dream?

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<v Speaker 2>Do not interpretations belong to God, And so he's expecting

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<v Speaker 2>a favorable interpretation, and he has a similar dream that's

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<v Speaker 2>different in just a small.

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<v Speaker 1>Tiny little way. He says, okay, I had.

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<v Speaker 2>Three, not three branches on a vine, because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>do the cup bear thing. I had three baskets of

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<v Speaker 2>bread and they were all full of bread.

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<v Speaker 1>And then some birds came in my dream.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it sounds weird, but they started eating the

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<v Speaker 2>bread off my head. And Joseph said, oh no, And

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<v Speaker 2>he said oh no, he said, yeah, it means this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the interpretation, this is what it means.

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<v Speaker 2>Three days Pharaoh's gonna lift up your head, uh huh

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<v Speaker 2>and cut it off, and then the birds are going

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<v Speaker 2>to eat your flesh. And then Joseph took up an offering.

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<v Speaker 2>But see, he didn't have the power to make the dream.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean what he wanted it to mean.

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<v Speaker 2>What he had to do was seek God to say,

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<v Speaker 2>what does this mean? And one meaning was you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be restored to your position, that's the stuff that preaches good.

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<v Speaker 1>And one meaning is you know.

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<v Speaker 2>You're actually you're actually you're actually gonna be dead three

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<v Speaker 2>days from now. But it was the same power that

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<v Speaker 2>enabled him to interpret both dreams, and it happened just

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<v Speaker 2>like Joseph predicted.

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<v Speaker 1>The interpretation was accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>Three days later, the baker was dead and the cupbearer

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<v Speaker 2>was free. Only he forgot about Joseph, have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>done something for somebody? Have you ever helped somebody move

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<v Speaker 2>when they moved out of their apartment into their house,

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<v Speaker 2>and when it came time for you to move, their

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<v Speaker 2>truck was having some issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Has it ever happened to you? Have you ever raised

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<v Speaker 1>your kids?

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<v Speaker 2>And then they got out of the house and acted

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<v Speaker 2>like they were too busy for you and the cats

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<v Speaker 2>in the cradle. Well, you can relate to Joseph because

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<v Speaker 2>he was forgotten in prison until one day Pharaoh. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the second interpretation, and there are three. This one

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<v Speaker 2>gets more difficult. It kind of goes in stages of

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<v Speaker 2>interpretation where Pharaoh has a dream and he gathers all

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<v Speaker 2>of the magicians in his court to interpret his dream.

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<v Speaker 2>We watch what the Bible says. I believe this Genesis

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<v Speaker 2>forty one. Yeah, verse fifteen. Pharaoh said to Joseph, I

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<v Speaker 2>have had a dream, and there is no one who

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<v Speaker 2>can interpret it. I have heard it said of you

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<v Speaker 2>that when you hear a dream, you can interpret it. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>how did Joseph get in front of Pharaoh? I thought

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<v Speaker 2>he was in prison. Well, here's what happened. When Pharaoh

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<v Speaker 2>had a problem, Joseph had an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>I must say that again.

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<v Speaker 2>When Pharaoh came upon something that he could not solve

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<v Speaker 2>with his resources, it created an opportunity for someone who

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<v Speaker 2>knew how to interpret the times, the situation, and to bring.

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<v Speaker 1>Forth the solution.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's why I pointed that out, because sometimes we run

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<v Speaker 2>from stuff that God has introduced in order to bring

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<v Speaker 2>us into the opportunity that we were praying for. And

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<v Speaker 2>when Pharaoh had a dream, it was a strange dream,

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<v Speaker 2>and he brought Joseph and said, man, I heard about you.

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<v Speaker 2>And Joseph said, it's about time that dude was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to tell.

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<v Speaker 1>You about me two years ago. But see, sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>God will allow people to forget about you because he

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<v Speaker 2>knows where you need to be for the moment you

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<v Speaker 2>need to come forth.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't have.

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<v Speaker 2>A relationship with God, you won't know what to do

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<v Speaker 2>with yourself in those times where you feel imprisoned.

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<v Speaker 1>And confined. All right, So he said, heard about you.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no one who can interpret my dream, but I

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<v Speaker 2>have heard it said of you.

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<v Speaker 1>That you are.

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<v Speaker 2>You are really, really brilliant at this dream interpretation stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>so give it a shot. And Joseph answered Pharaoh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not in me. What a way to start your opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Go for a job interview, talk about I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the one.

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<v Speaker 2>But he said something similar to what he said in

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<v Speaker 2>verse forty. And you start to see a pattern. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not in me. God will give Pharaoh a favorable answer,

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<v Speaker 2>so let's hear it. Because the power of interpretation is

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<v Speaker 2>not in me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get it wrong. I've learned that about myself. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get it wrong every time.

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<v Speaker 2>Even preaching, I will mess the whole thing up. If

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<v Speaker 2>I preach from the perspective of how I interpret that

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<v Speaker 2>you are receiving the message, I start getting nervous because really,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're listening the most you look angry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you that about yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>When I'm really doing good, your eyebrows start making a

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<v Speaker 2>queue up there, and you start you start hunching forward.

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<v Speaker 2>And even when I'm really preaching good, you cross your

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<v Speaker 2>arms because I just offended something that you've been clinging to,

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<v Speaker 2>that God really wanted to pry out of your heart.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you start leaning back and stuff, start doing

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<v Speaker 2>all this. One woman one time looked like she was

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<v Speaker 2>sleeping in my sermon. I realized she was praying for me.

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<v Speaker 2>He took me twenty minutes into sermon. Oh, I was

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<v Speaker 2>so offended. And I've learned this about myself. I will

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<v Speaker 2>interpret it wrong every time because the power of interpretation

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<v Speaker 2>is to get into the presence of God. Watch this

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<v Speaker 2>and say, God, what are you saying, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you want to speak? And Joseph from that

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<v Speaker 1>place of humility.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Pharaoh's dream, and Pharaoh starts talking about cows. He's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>there were seven fat cows and seven skinny cows. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why Pharaoh's talking like this. It must be

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<v Speaker 2>southern Egypt, but he's like, the fat cows. First came

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<v Speaker 2>the fat cows, then came to skinny cows and skinny cows.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight the fat cows, and there were fat stalks and

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<v Speaker 2>skinny stalks.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a great story you can read sometimes. But josephs, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven years of plenty, that's the fat cows, seven years

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<v Speaker 2>of famine, that's skinny cat.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you save up during this fat years, you

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<v Speaker 1>can make it in the lean years.

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<v Speaker 2>And Pharaoh said, I need somebody smart to put in

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<v Speaker 2>charge of saving up during the fat years. I need

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to manage my fat cows. And Joseph said, well, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>if you need somebody to manage the fat cows, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the guy who told you about the fat cows would

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<v Speaker 2>be the one to manage the fat cows. And Pharaoh said,

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<v Speaker 2>you're the man. And he's second in command of all

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<v Speaker 2>of Egypt because of what the power of and if

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<v Speaker 2>he would have given his opinion in that moment, or

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<v Speaker 2>if he would have interpreted that opportunity through the lens

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<v Speaker 2>of his own pain, he would not have had the

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<v Speaker 2>clarity to see God and see what God is doing.

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<v Speaker 1>The second interpretation, and here's the third one. Okay, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a pattern.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's three branches on the vinus, three interpretations and joseph life.

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<v Speaker 2>And this one, this last one that I want to

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<v Speaker 2>show you, is going to be the most difficult of all,

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<v Speaker 2>because now Joseph has to interpret not the prisoner's dream,

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<v Speaker 2>the cup baker, cup baker, it's new things. Cup baker

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<v Speaker 2>bakes cups, the cup bearer, and the baker.

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<v Speaker 1>But the second interpretation of Pharaoh's dream.

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<v Speaker 2>Was easy in comparison to Joseph's final test, when he

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<v Speaker 2>had to interpret his own dream, and to do that

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<v Speaker 2>he had to face his own pain, because remember I

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<v Speaker 2>told you when he was seventeen years old, he had

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<v Speaker 2>a dream where he saw all these sheaves of grain

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<v Speaker 2>that his brothers were out in the field harvesting, and

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<v Speaker 2>his was at the middle, and they all bowed down

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<v Speaker 2>to him. And perhaps in his immature eagerness to be important,

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<v Speaker 2>he went and told his brothers what he saw, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's one of the reasons they hated him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean many reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>His father liked him better because he came from the

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<v Speaker 2>wife Rachel that Jacob really loved, and his dad gave

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<v Speaker 2>him this Gucci coat, and so many reasons why he

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<v Speaker 2>was hated and theirs her from target. But it's crazy

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<v Speaker 2>because you know now he's standing in front of him.

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<v Speaker 2>READI you the passage, and you imagine how emotional this

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<v Speaker 2>would have been. Because the famine that Joseph predicted is

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<v Speaker 2>now in full swing. It's been seven years of plenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph has stored up all the supplies and so they're

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<v Speaker 2>ready for it. But he won't ready for this because

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<v Speaker 2>two years into the famine, seven years of plenty, and

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<v Speaker 2>two years into the seven year famine, Jacob sends all

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<v Speaker 2>of his boys, Joseph's brothers to Egypt because he heard

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<v Speaker 2>there was grain there, and Joseph is the one who's

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<v Speaker 2>in control of the pantry.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes God will test you by putting you in a

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<v Speaker 2>position to see how you will deal with somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>hurt you, and how you interpret that moment has everything

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<v Speaker 2>to do with what happens next and how much God

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<v Speaker 2>can trust you. And I'm gonna read it to you

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<v Speaker 2>just like it says it in verse one. Start from

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<v Speaker 2>verse one of Genesis forty five. He's been with his brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the second time that he's seen them. He's

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<v Speaker 2>been dealing with a wide array I'm sure of different

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<v Speaker 2>instincts and impulses of how.

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<v Speaker 1>He should deal with them.

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<v Speaker 2>He hasn't let them know yet who he is because

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<v Speaker 2>he's dressed like an Egyptian, and so they don't recognize him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, some people in your.

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<v Speaker 2>Life don't recognize the you that you are now, not

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<v Speaker 2>only because of what you've been through in life, but

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<v Speaker 2>because God has taken you to a different place.

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<v Speaker 1>And what he did this very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>In Genesis forty two, it says he spoke to them

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<v Speaker 2>through an interpreter, so he pretended like he couldn't understand them,

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<v Speaker 2>and he played tricks on him. It's an epic story.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't preach it today because this is one principle

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to illustrate, but it would be well worth

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<v Speaker 2>your time to invest about forty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>And read the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But when he finally decided to reveal himself to his brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>It triggered that trauma.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the day when he was so hated by them

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<v Speaker 2>that they dipped his robe in animal blood and sold

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<v Speaker 2>him to the Ishmaelit caravan, and he ended up separated

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<v Speaker 2>from everything that he knew.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Says in verse one, Joseph could not control himself before

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<v Speaker 2>all those who stood by him, and so he cried,

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<v Speaker 2>make everyone go out from me, so no one stayed

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<v Speaker 2>with him. When Joseph made himself known to his brothers,

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<v Speaker 2>he's all alone in front of the thing that hurt him,

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<v Speaker 2>in front of the unfair situation that started this whole

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<v Speaker 2>chain of events in his life. And now he has

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<v Speaker 2>to decide how to interpret this encounter. And I'm preaching

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<v Speaker 2>right to your life today, because you're standing in front

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<v Speaker 2>of something that hurt you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're standing in front of some things.

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<v Speaker 2>That happened to you or didn't happen for you that

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<v Speaker 2>should have, and standing before.

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<v Speaker 1>His brothers, Joseph has a decision to make what is

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<v Speaker 1>the interpretation of this?

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<v Speaker 2>And now perhaps he remembers his dream that he had

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<v Speaker 2>over twenty years ago where he saw all of his

0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 2>brothers bowing down to him, but he realized they would

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:21.360
<v Speaker 2>not be bowing down to him so that he could

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:23.119
<v Speaker 2>show off in front of them, but so that he

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 2>could serve them. In this moment, he's very powerful. It's

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<v Speaker 2>very powerful. What happens next, he's crying and he's hurting,

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<v Speaker 2>and finally he reveals himself. In verse three, Joseph said

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<v Speaker 2>to his brothers, I am Joseph. Is my father still alive?

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<v Speaker 2>But his brothers could not answer him, for they were

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<v Speaker 2>dismayed at his presence. And so Joseph said to his brothers,

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<v Speaker 2>come near to me, please, because you really can't interpret

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 2>what God is doing in your life from a distance.

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<v Speaker 2>And he has to call the thing that has caused

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<v Speaker 2>him so much pain closer in order to see what

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<v Speaker 2>God would have him to do. And when they come closer,

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<v Speaker 2>he identifies himself again and said, I am your brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph doesn't disassociate himself from them.

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<v Speaker 2>He acknowledges his position before them, and then he mentions

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<v Speaker 2>what they did to him, whom you sold into Egypt.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, it is your fault. I'm here verse five.

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<v Speaker 2>And now do not be distressed or angry with yourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you sold me here.

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<v Speaker 2>For God sent me before you to preserve life.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I really had to pray about that verse because it

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<v Speaker 2>seemed like such a contradiction. He said, On one hand,

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<v Speaker 2>please put it on the screen for just another moment.

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<v Speaker 1>You sold me. Do you see that you sold me?

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<v Speaker 2>So he is placing the blame for his situation on

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<v Speaker 2>his brothers who stand before him. He's not denying their

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<v Speaker 2>hand in bringing him into this situation, nor is he

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<v Speaker 2>denying the dysfunction of it. You sold me, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was wrong. You sold me out, you let me down.

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<v Speaker 2>You are the reason. On one hand that I'm here.

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<v Speaker 2>I would not be in Egypt. I would be back

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<v Speaker 2>home if it were not for you. But watch the shift.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the message that God gave me for somebody today,

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<v Speaker 2>and I pray that you'll have ears to hear it

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<v Speaker 2>and that God will will.

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<v Speaker 1>Enlighten your spirit to receive it.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, you sold me here for God sent me

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<v Speaker 2>before you to preserve life. And what I was praying

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<v Speaker 2>about is which one is it? Did they sell you

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<v Speaker 2>or did God send you? And I kept praying about

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<v Speaker 2>that because it sounds like he's talking out of both

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<v Speaker 2>sides of his mouth, you sold me for God sent me.

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<v Speaker 2>Notice the construct. He doesn't say you sold me, but

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<v Speaker 2>God sent me. It's not even that he's contrasting the two.

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<v Speaker 2>The second is a continuation of the first. God help

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 2>me preach this Bible verse right now. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>most anointed verse I've read all year. He said, you

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<v Speaker 2>sold me, and it hurt me not but you sold me.

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<v Speaker 1>For God sent me.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't be mad about it, don't even punish yourself, and

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<v Speaker 2>don't cower in my presence. You don't need to spend

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<v Speaker 2>another day tormented by it, because now I see through it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a lot of years since you pushed me

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<v Speaker 2>in that pit. It's been a lot of years since

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<v Speaker 2>you broke my heart. It's been a lot of years

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<v Speaker 2>since my dad left me. It's been a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>years since they walked out. It's been a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>years since I went down. It's been a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>years since.

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<v Speaker 1>They lied on me. It's been a lot of years

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<v Speaker 1>since they said I did it. It's been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of years, And now.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a I've got an interpretation of the event.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been studying about this, and I realize it is

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<v Speaker 2>not the event that determines the outcome.

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<v Speaker 1>It is your interpretation of.

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<v Speaker 2>The event that determines the outcome.

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<v Speaker 1>And so watch this you'll be good. Sit down.

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<v Speaker 2>The first one is the event you sold me. The

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<v Speaker 2>second one is the interpretation God sent me.

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<v Speaker 1>Which one are you going.

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<v Speaker 2>To live in the event or the interpretation? And here's

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<v Speaker 2>a better question. Here's a better question. Who is your interpreter?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you interpreting your God through your life or your

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<v Speaker 2>life through your God? Because see your interpreter. Sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 2>not what's happening, it's how you are interpreting what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. I thought she was sleeping, but she was really praying.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they didn't love me, but really they just

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't be there for me because they were going through

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<v Speaker 2>some of their own issues. Is not the event, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the interpretation. I thought the fire came to kill me,

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 2>but I found out God was using the fire that

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<v Speaker 2>I thought was gonna kill me to refine me. So

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 2>God will use a fire that nippechanesser started to refine.

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<v Speaker 1>Me and bring me forth this gold.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't just need the spirit of God to help

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 2>me interpret tongues. I need God to help me interpret trauma.

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 2>And trouble and trials, and so I'm praying like Paul

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<v Speaker 2>told the church, to pray for the power to interpret.

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I need the power to interpret. How many of you

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 2>need the power to interpret by the wisdom of the

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<v Speaker 2>Spirit of God. You don't need the spirit of God

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<v Speaker 2>to give you goose bumps. A lot of things can

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 2>give you goosebumps. You know, if you put on Mariah Carey,

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 2>I can make it through the rain right now. It's

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<v Speaker 2>one of her lesser known hits, just off the album

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 2>with the rainbow on it where she's not wearing enough clothes.

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 2>So I never looked at the cover when I was

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<v Speaker 2>a teenager. Well, anyway, the problem with that, it can

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 2>give you a feeling. I don't need the spirit of

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 2>God just to give me a feeling. If it's a feeling, great,

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 2>But I need the Spirit of God to give me focus.

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<v Speaker 2>The unique property of the Spirit of God. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you got the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 2>The Father that's the legislative branch of the government of God.

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>He's the one who makes the laws.

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 2>You've got the Son, who is the executive branch of

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 2>the government of Heaven, who enforces the grace of God

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 2>and takes the penalty of your sin because you can't

0:30:58.360 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>keep the law.

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 1>And then you've got the.

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<v Speaker 2>Judicial branch, which is the Holy Spirit which lives inside

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<v Speaker 2>of you. That helps you to get in a situation

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<v Speaker 2>and say, I don't know what to do, I don't

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 2>know what to say, but God, will you give me

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 2>an interpretation of what the people in my life need

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 2>right now this season I'm in right now, I need.

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>The Holy Spirit.

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Or I'll get it wrong. I'll get it wrong. And

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 2>some of us have the wrong interpreter. We are interpreting

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 2>our present through our past. We are interpreting our purpose

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 2>through our pain. We are interpreting our entire life through

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 2>one little situation. We are interpreting our future through our flaws.

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 2>When you have the wrong interpreter, messages everything up. The

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<v Speaker 2>first time I went to speak in a country where

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't speak English, the first international speaking trip that

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<v Speaker 2>I remember was Australia that they speak kind of English.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to pick on the ossis they shorten everything,

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of speak English, but they nickname everything.

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>They call praise songs praisees, and that's weird.

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 2>And when I go over there, they don't call me Steve,

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 2>and they call me Steve, and there's an inn on

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 2>my name for a reason my mom put it there.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you please let my consonants come through customs and

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<v Speaker 2>put the in on the end of my name.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Australia. I've been there many times.

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<v Speaker 2>But one time I went to preach in a place

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<v Speaker 2>where they didn't speak English, and I called a wiser

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 2>minister who had preached many times in international settings, and said,

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<v Speaker 2>give me some just different things I need to know

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<v Speaker 2>about preaching through an interpreter. Translator is for written, interpreter

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<v Speaker 2>is for spoken. I said, I need some of your

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<v Speaker 2>wisdom on speaking through an interpreter. He gave me a

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<v Speaker 2>few things, but one thing he said that stood out.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, First, pray that you get a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, because you'll think that he's saying what you said,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes you can tell. I said, how will I

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 2>tell if I have a bad interpreter? He said, one thing,

0:32:57.520 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 2>he'll talk longer than you. When you finish your sentence,

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 2>he'll say three sentences. That means he's putting something in

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<v Speaker 2>that you didn't intend to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I tell you all something?

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<v Speaker 2>The devil has been putting some stuff in come on

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 2>between what God has spoken to you. He puts thoughts

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 2>in people's minds about you, in your mind that they

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 2>weren't even thinking about you.

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Makes you paranoid. Oh man, look how they're looking at me.

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>They don't like me.

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 2>No, they actually don't like their husband, and they came

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>to work in a bad mood because of something else

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 2>that had nothing to do with you. But the devil

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 2>will make you think that they don't like you because

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 2>he's an.

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<v Speaker 1>Interpreter that likes to add. He puts all that you have.

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<v Speaker 2>You ever had this happen before in a situation where

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 2>you start interpreting it wrong, And now all of a

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 2>sudden you're thinking that they said things or thought things

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 2>that they didn't say or think. He said, the other

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 2>extreme you got to look out for. Sometimes they won't

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 2>say everything that you just they'll cut it short, he said.

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes they'll leave stuff out. And that's what the enemy

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.879
<v Speaker 2>will do when you let him interpret your life. He'll

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 2>only show you what's wrong with you. But he won't

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 2>let you see how God is going to use everything

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 2>that you consider to be a deficiency to bring you

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 2>into your destiny. So he will only keep you confined

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.839
<v Speaker 2>come on church. That golf clap that's not even worth

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 2>doing if you're going to brace God and worship God

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:36.399
<v Speaker 2>for what he's spoken over your life, and the fact

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 2>that no man can add to it or subtract from it.

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.359
<v Speaker 2>If he said it, it will happen. If he said in.

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Three days he will rise.

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<v Speaker 2>I might be on a cross now, baby, but resurrection

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 2>power is in my god future. So before we leave

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 2>this place today, I just want to give you five

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 2>things to pray for. Don't get nervous where we are

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 2>now approaching our initial dissent.

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Make sure your bibles are securely open.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought we would just spell out the word dream,

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 2>because Joseph interpreted not only the dream of the prisoners,

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 2>not only the dream of Pharaoh, but his own dream

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 2>that he had at seventeen years old, not through the

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 2>lens of what he had lost in his life.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how you keep doing it? You keep get

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 1>You keep focusing so much on.

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:40.759
<v Speaker 2>Who left you and the opportunity that you wasted that

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 2>you keep bringing that forward with you into the next opportunity.

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 2>And it's messing with you and you need the Holy Spirit.

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.720
<v Speaker 2>This is what the Holy Spirit does speak in tongues.

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. Shout at the top of your lungs, that's awesome.

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Get a goosebump. I'll get one with you.

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 2>We'll go, we'll goose will rub our goosebumps together.

0:35:57.840 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 1>It's all wonderful.

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 2>But what I really need the spirit of God for

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 2>it is for those groans that words can't express.

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 1>And I'll give them to you and we'll go and

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:11.280
<v Speaker 1>we'll call it a day, and we'll call it a series.

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 2>But the first one that I'm praying for the power

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:17.839
<v Speaker 2>to interpret, like Paul said, because I know that interpretations

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:20.440
<v Speaker 2>belong to God. So I need God, God help me

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 2>to interpret my desires. I don't sometimes know why I

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 2>want what I want, and neither did Paul.

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 1>He was like, what I want to do it? Don't

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 1>do what I don't want to do it. Don't do

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 1>that didn't make any sense. If you want to do it,

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>you want to do it. What do you mean you

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 1>want to do it? You don't do it?

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:40.319
<v Speaker 2>Like, well, there's flesh, there's the spirit. I got a

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:43.439
<v Speaker 2>new nature. I love God, and then four minutes later,

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I really.

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I really still love God, but.

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 2>I love something that's the opposite of God too.

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:53.839
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what to do, and I need

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:58.239
<v Speaker 1>the Holy Spirit to show me why I want what

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 1>I want, because if the Holy Spirit doesn't.

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:06.280
<v Speaker 2>Interpret my desires, I will run around my whole life

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:09.319
<v Speaker 2>trying to get what I want, and then when I

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 2>get it, I won't even want what I've got. God,

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 2>help me interpret my desires, because sometimes what will happen

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:22.439
<v Speaker 2>is it's not like one desire is divine and one

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 2>is demonic, and you know there's no devil and no angel.

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes what the enemy will do to me.

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Is he'll take a god given desire and distort it.

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:35.359
<v Speaker 1>And what I really want is not a bad thing.

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:36.720
<v Speaker 1>It's not a bad desire.

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<v Speaker 2>I notice a lot of people these days seem to

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 2>want to be famous, famous for what famous?

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:44.800
<v Speaker 1>So I could be famous?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you noticed that fame is like the number one

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 2>cultural value now? And I was thinking about that as

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<v Speaker 2>to why everybody wants to be famous.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you think about it. Famous is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a weird thing.

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<v Speaker 2>People aren't really built to receive that amount of attention.

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 2>And when you see the number of famous people who

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 2>are famous and don't even want to go on living,

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 2>it should cause you to question what is the real

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 2>thing that I want?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it really fame? Is it really.

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<v Speaker 2>Followers on some platform full of people who don't even

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 2>know me, but only the presentation and projection that I

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 2>choose to stage, the props that I put in my life?

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Is that really what I want? Do I really want

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 1>to be noticed? Or do I really want to be known?

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Because I think a lot of times we're trying to

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:34.839
<v Speaker 2>be noticed and the real desires we want to be known?

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:38.399
<v Speaker 2>And the Spirit of God can show you your real

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 2>desire to say, I know that you're doing all this

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 2>to try to get people to notice you, but I'm

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:49.839
<v Speaker 2>the only one who really knows you. And see when

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:53.879
<v Speaker 2>people know you from a distance and they notice things

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 2>about you, but they don't know the real you, and

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 2>you still feel lonely. It's so important that you ask

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 2>the Spirit of God things like this, What am I

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 2>really spending fourteen sixteen hours a day working for?

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Is it really to give my kids the life that

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:10.399
<v Speaker 1>they Yeah? Is it really that?

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:13.839
<v Speaker 2>Are you really trying to prove something to somebody who's

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 2>not even paying attention.

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:19.479
<v Speaker 1>Like early in Joseph's life, He's like, you were all

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:20.400
<v Speaker 1>bowing down to me.

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:24.840
<v Speaker 2>It was awesome twenty years later, he's the one crumbling

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:27.439
<v Speaker 2>on his knees because he realizes that the desire God

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 2>gave him was not so he could be important, but

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:34.399
<v Speaker 2>so that he could have influence, not so he could

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 2>have status, but so that he could be a servant. So, God,

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:43.319
<v Speaker 2>show me my desires, Show me which ones come from you,

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:47.359
<v Speaker 2>and help me. You know, I used to always pray

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:49.839
<v Speaker 2>Some thirty seven for it says, delight yourself in the Lord,

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 2>and He will give you the desires of your heart.

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 2>And an immature interpretation of that is God's going to

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 2>give me what I want.

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, God's just peeling them off. You know what

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 1>you want, what you want? What you want?

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Now, I look at it like he will give me

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 2>the right desires. He will give me, I part unto me,

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:14.360
<v Speaker 2>the right desires. So I don't just come up wanting

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 2>to impress people. But I start asking God, how can

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I be a blessing? Because I cannot simultaneously be a

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 2>blessing if I'm trying to be Impressif so, I want

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:26.439
<v Speaker 2>to get out of my own way and ask God

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 2>to interpret my desires. God, I want you, I want

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 2>your presence in my life.

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 1>God.

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I want your pleasure, your smile. God, I want harmony

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.760
<v Speaker 2>and peace with you, even if it costs me sometimes

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 2>position with people. God, I don't want to just be popular.

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:46.399
<v Speaker 2>I want to live a life of purpose. I want

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 2>to know that this matters and means something at the

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 2>end of it all. So I need the power of

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 2>interpretation for my desires. And see, you can't really have

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 2>that if you don't get past rejection. So the second

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:02.320
<v Speaker 2>thing is, God, will you help me interpret my rejection?

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Will help me look at my brothers not just through

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:09.399
<v Speaker 2>the lens of what they did to me, but through

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 2>the lens of what you want to do through me.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not expect.

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<v Speaker 2>An amen right there, but I didn't expect that level

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 2>of silence. I'll tell you that right now, that that

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 2>was just over the top. Praise Lord, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah,

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 2>all of them. Yeah, because he says two things. He says,

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 2>you rejected me, but God protected me. See it, you know,

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:37.920
<v Speaker 2>see it again on the screen? Do you. I can

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 2>show it to you on the screen that push a button.

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:41.920
<v Speaker 2>It'll come right up on the screen. Genesis forty five

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 2>to five.

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 1>You sold me.

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 2>God sent me to preserve life. So when I was seventeen,

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:55.799
<v Speaker 2>it felt like rejection. But now that I've grown, and

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 2>now that I've experienced the grace of God, and now

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 2>that I've let go of the resentment and I refuse.

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 1>To hold on to it.

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 2>I see that what man calls rejection, sometimes God calls protection.

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Some of the.

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 2>People who left you, God was removing them.

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>God wanted to do some things for you that only.

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 2>He could do, and if he had let them say yes,

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't.

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Have been ready for what was match. I'm gonna come

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 1>back to these and preach a whole series on them.

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Each one. I'm gonna preach a series on dream. I

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 2>promise you I will do it. If you stay here

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 2>long enough, I will do it. I might be ninety

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 2>three years old, board over three.

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm APPRECIAU singer because I gotta get God to help.

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 2>Me interpret what my desires and rejection, and then I

0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:54.640
<v Speaker 2>gotta make sure that God filters my emotions. So God,

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 2>help me interpret my emotions because I know what I feel. Well,

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 2>let me be honest as a man. Sometimes I don't

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:04.359
<v Speaker 2>even know what I feel. And being married has helped

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 2>me so much with interpretation. I really love my wife.

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I jokingly call Holly the Holly Spirit. It's only half joking.

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 2>She's a great interpreter. She interprets things. One time we

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 2>were fighting about a bill. I think it was like

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 2>three two hundred and forty three dollars. And guess what

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have in the bank account three thousand, two

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty whatever. I said, dollars, And I got

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 2>so angry. I say, and I don't yell. I'm not

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 2>the kind of guy that goes around yelling at his wife.

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 1>But I was yelling at her this day. This was

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:35.919
<v Speaker 1>years ago.

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 2>This was like, you know, the early stage is a marriage,

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:42.720
<v Speaker 2>and so you know, you'll forgive me for being angry.

0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 2>But she she, at one point in the argument, goes,

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 2>why are you so angry?

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I said, that'sens around. You know what I was telling

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:55.840
<v Speaker 1>the truth. I wasn't really angry.

0:43:55.880 --> 0:44:02.720
<v Speaker 2>I was afraid, and it was expressing itself as anger.

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:09.719
<v Speaker 1>But she was able to interpret the fear that was

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>driving my anger. And when she realized that I wasn't

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 1>mad at her.

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I was mad at the attorney who sent that bill,

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 2>and mad at BB and T for not having enough

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 2>money in my bank account to pay the attorney who

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:24.840
<v Speaker 2>sent the bill.

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 1>See how an interpretation can change everything.

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:31.440
<v Speaker 2>She was able to realize, it's not me versus you

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 2>in this moment, it's us versus this bill, and let's

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 2>figure it out together. But if you don't pray for

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 2>the power to interpret, you will just live at the

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 2>level of the emotion and never know what is beneath

0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 2>the surface. And you will repeat the emotion on the

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 2>next person who steps into the line of fire of

0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:51.280
<v Speaker 2>your unfiltered experiences.

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm gonna download this podcast myself.

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:58.320
<v Speaker 2>I think, all right, so God help me interpret my emotion.

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 1>So I say, I'm depressed. I'm in depression right now.

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe maybe you are depressed or maybe you know

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:09.880
<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's just it's just Monday. You always feel this

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:12.080
<v Speaker 2>way on Monday.

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:14.319
<v Speaker 1>This hasn't been outside yet.

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But if you don't ask God, God, see, do

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:22.959
<v Speaker 2>not interpretations belong to God.

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 1>That's what Joseph knew.

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:29.800
<v Speaker 2>That's what Joseph knew because on one hand, emotionally, he's angry,

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 2>he's crying, and he sends everybody out of his presence.

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 2>But then beneath the emotion, he realized the reason now

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 2>here's a good question, are you living at the level

0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:45.239
<v Speaker 2>of reaction or reason? Because if you always just react, react, react, but.

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Never ask God, what is the reason I'm.

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Reacting this way, you will fix the wrong factors.

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:51.920
<v Speaker 1>And this is where a.

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:55.959
<v Speaker 2>Lot of preaching gets so mean and hateful and impossible,

0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 2>because we're correcting behaviors but not addressing the beliefs that

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:03.359
<v Speaker 2>drive the behaviors. So you'll hear a preacher sometimes preach

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 2>against addiction, but why is she drinking six classes?

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Or you'll hear it preached.

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Against, you know, pornography or sexual addiction, and the preacher

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:15.879
<v Speaker 2>will never address the fact that you're reaching out for God.

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 1>When you log on that site, you just don't know.

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:20.839
<v Speaker 2>It's God that you're reaching out for, so you're trying

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 2>to fill it with something that leaves you more empty.

0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 2>But you're really reaching out for God. But what you

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 2>really want isn't sex, it's connection. So you run around

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 2>for sex, but you don't get connection because it's empty

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:41.880
<v Speaker 2>because you never ask God why. And this takes reflection,

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:45.680
<v Speaker 2>and this takes sitting alone with God and even other

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:47.759
<v Speaker 2>people that you trust, and joining an e group and

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:53.640
<v Speaker 2>sharing some stuff that makes you uncomfortable, shameless plug. Today

0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:58.439
<v Speaker 2>there's tenths outside join any group. She again interpret Pharaoh said,

0:46:58.440 --> 0:47:00.279
<v Speaker 2>I need someone interpret my drink. The prisoner said, someone

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 2>interpreted the dream. But really I need God to help

0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:07.120
<v Speaker 2>me interpret not only the hard things I've been through.

0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:09.600
<v Speaker 1>But look at Joseph. Now he's in a position of power.

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:13.399
<v Speaker 2>Not only does have the power of interpretation that God

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:16.360
<v Speaker 2>has given him, but he has the power to punish

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:20.360
<v Speaker 2>his brothers or provide for them.

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:23.359
<v Speaker 1>And what's he going to do with his advantage? That's

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the fourth one.

0:47:24.560 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 2>God, show me the advantages that you've given me, and

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 2>show me why you gave.

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Them to me.

0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:37.799
<v Speaker 2>Because when people receive advantages, but they think that the

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:41.280
<v Speaker 2>purpose for the advantage so that they can call attention

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 2>to themselves, that's when leaders become toxic. That's when rich

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:54.719
<v Speaker 2>people become oppressive. The hard thing is sometimes recognizing the advantage.

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Because remember when David.

0:47:57.680 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Killed Goliath, and Bible says that after he killed him,

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 2>he took his sword. I always thought that was an

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:10.239
<v Speaker 2>illustration of how today's attack can become tomorrow's advantage.

0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:16.759
<v Speaker 1>You sold me for God sent me, and the.

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:18.919
<v Speaker 2>Whole time that people were pushing me in a pit.

0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 2>God was preparing me so that I could provide with

0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 2>the power that He's given me.

0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 1>And maybe the reason that you went through.

0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 2>The attack is so that you could have an advantage.

0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you hear me, Just forget I'm talking. Hear this

0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:38.279
<v Speaker 2>from God. He wanted to say this to you, and

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:40.920
<v Speaker 2>he's just using me to do it. Quit calling it

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:45.719
<v Speaker 2>an attack. It's an advantage. Quit calling it a weakness

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 2>because it is in your weakness that.

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:50.840
<v Speaker 1>He is strong. Quit being ashamed of it.

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:53.479
<v Speaker 2>Quit trying to run from it, hide it and numb

0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:57.040
<v Speaker 2>it and cover it up. The attack is the advantage.

0:48:57.360 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 2>And you know what Paul said. He said, I am

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:03.239
<v Speaker 2>convinced that the sufferings of this present time are not

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 2>even worthy to be compared with the glory that will

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:08.799
<v Speaker 2>be revealed.

0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:11.839
<v Speaker 1>So I interpret my.

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Pain through the lens of God's purpose and my feelings

0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:22.320
<v Speaker 2>through my faith. So God give me the power to interpret.

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:29.759
<v Speaker 2>Not just to interpret when I get there, not just

0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:34.319
<v Speaker 2>to interpret when it's all better. But God, help me

0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 2>to interpret when I'm in the middle. I'm in the middle.

0:49:43.360 --> 0:49:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Joseph spent twenty years with a dream they contradicted everything

0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 2>he was facing in his situation. And yet the most

0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:59.880
<v Speaker 2>frequent line that is repeated in the account of his

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:03.839
<v Speaker 2>life is this, the Lord was with.

0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Joseph.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's not something you always feel. That's not

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:14.960
<v Speaker 2>something that you can always prove. That's not something that

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 2>you always have facts to back it up. But I

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:22.040
<v Speaker 2>don't need facts. I got faith. I don't need feelings.

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:26.840
<v Speaker 2>I've got faith God. I want to interpret my life

0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:30.840
<v Speaker 2>as it unfolds through the lens that you love me

0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:34.839
<v Speaker 2>and that you're with me. And I need a faith

0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:38.680
<v Speaker 2>interpretation because you know, Church, the world is trying to

0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 2>give us a fear interpretation every single day, and if

0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:47.120
<v Speaker 2>you read the paper, it's a fear interpretation. But when

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I come to God, I can look at everything in

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:53.960
<v Speaker 2>my life and look at it through the lens of

0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 2>what He's spoken to me. And the power of interpretation

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<v Speaker 2>is to confess the presence of God in every situation,

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<v Speaker 2>whether you feel it or not. And if you need

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<v Speaker 2>God to show you something right now in your life,

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<v Speaker 2>stand to your feet so I can pray for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Because this message was not meant for those who just

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<v Speaker 2>want to live by your five senses. And this message

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<v Speaker 2>was not intended for those who just want to spend

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of their life blaming people. And this message

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<v Speaker 2>was not for those who everything is easy and you

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<v Speaker 2>can always explain it and you understand it all. This

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<v Speaker 2>message is for someone who needs an interpretation.

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<v Speaker 1>God. I don't need you to explain everything to me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're God and I'm not. But I need to know God,

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<v Speaker 1>what you are doing in this moment of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to spend the.

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<v Speaker 2>Rest of my life projecting stuff. I need an interpretation,

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<v Speaker 2>Paul said, pray for the power of interpretation. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>get this on your own. You can't get this by logic.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't see this on a spreadsheet. You cannot consult

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<v Speaker 2>bank accounts and other people and books in a library.

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<v Speaker 2>This only comes from God.

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<v Speaker 1>God. I need an interpretation.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to know why my kids are acting crazy

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I need to know God, why my money

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<v Speaker 2>is acting funny right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to know why they said no.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to know why this keeps happening. I need

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<v Speaker 2>to know why this pattern keeps submerging.

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<v Speaker 1>And I need to know more than anything.

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<v Speaker 3>That you are with me in this moment, even when

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<v Speaker 3>I don't feel it. I need an interpretation. Do not

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<v Speaker 3>interpretations belong to God. Doesn't he have the power to

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<v Speaker 3>show you why I made you? Doesn't he have the

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<v Speaker 3>power to comfort you in all of your trouble. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>he have the power to assure you of His presence

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<v Speaker 3>in this moment? Father, thank you for your word, and

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<v Speaker 3>thank you for your people. And I pray that today

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<v Speaker 3>I have been a faithful interpreter of what you said

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<v Speaker 3>through Joseph, and what you said through Paul, and what

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<v Speaker 3>you're saying to each life represented in this place. Today

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<v Speaker 3>I asked God that you would interpret the message exactly

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<v Speaker 3>as each hearer needs to receive it. In fact, if

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<v Speaker 3>you would just lift your hands right now and show

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<v Speaker 3>the Lord that you're listening, we'll receive from you in

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<v Speaker 3>this moment.

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