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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Stephen Ferdick.

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Speaker 2: I'm the pastor of Elevation Church, and this is our

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Speaker 2: podcast and I wanted to thank you for joining us today.

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Speaker 2: Hope this inspires you. Hope it builds your faith. Hope

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Speaker 2: it gives you perspective to see God is moving.

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Speaker 1: In your life. Enjoy the message.

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Speaker 2: Let's go in our bibles now to Genesis chapter forty

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Speaker 2: for the final week of our series. Trigger at least

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Speaker 2: I think it's the final week, but we'll preach.

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Speaker 1: It and see what happens.

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Speaker 2: I have been preaching about taking back your mind in

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Speaker 2: the age of anxiety.

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Speaker 1: But looking at you, you.

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Speaker 2: Seem to be completely now free of stress, and it

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Speaker 2: seems as if you have gotten the message, and we

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Speaker 2: can call it quits after today. But this last message

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Speaker 2: that I want to bring to you, I hope will

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Speaker 2: be as profound to you hearing it as it was

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Speaker 2: to me as I studied for it, and ask that

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Speaker 2: you consider it peerfully, because it's one of those messages

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Speaker 2: where if you try to understand it with your mind,

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Speaker 2: you won't get the most out of it. But if

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Speaker 2: you'll listen at a different level and see what God wants.

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Speaker 1: To speak to you.

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Speaker 2: I believe that he will welcome to every single location.

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Speaker 2: I pray that you would lean into this word wherever

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Speaker 2: you are and receive something from the Lord. Genesis, chapter forty,

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Speaker 2: verse five. Let's jump right into the middle of it.

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Speaker 2: And one night they both dreamed, the cupbearer and the

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Speaker 2: baker and the King of Egypt, who were confined in

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Speaker 2: the prison, each his own dream, and each dream with

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Speaker 2: its own interpretation. When Joseph came to them in the morning,

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Speaker 2: he saw that they were trouble.

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Speaker 1: So he asked Pharaoh's officers, who were.

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Speaker 2: With him in custody in his master's house, why are

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Speaker 2: your faces downcast today? And they said to him, we

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Speaker 2: have had dreams and there is no one to interpret them.

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Speaker 2: And Joseph said to them, do not interpretations belong to God?

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Speaker 2: That was the question that got me started on this

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Speaker 2: quest to preach this message today. Do not interpretations belong

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Speaker 2: to God? Please tell them to me. Now I'm going

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Speaker 2: to do something kind of weird. I'm going to go

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Speaker 2: to a New Testament scripture. One verse of scripture that

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Speaker 2: doesn't seem to go together on the surface with the

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Speaker 2: one I just read, but it does seemed like, you know,

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Speaker 2: Peanut butter and mayonnaise, but it's really jelly. So go

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Speaker 2: to First Corinthians fourteen three, and here Paul is giving

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Speaker 2: some instructions to the Corinthian Church about orderly worship, and

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Speaker 2: he says, therefore, one who speaks in a tongue should pray.

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Speaker 1: For the power to interpret.

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Speaker 2: Again, therefore, one who speaks in a tongue should pray

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Speaker 2: for the power to interpret. I want to lift that

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Speaker 2: phrase from my message title today and talk to you

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Speaker 2: about the power of interpretation. Very very, very good stuff

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Speaker 2: come in your way today from the word of God,

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Speaker 2: not from me, but from God.

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Speaker 1: And that's really the starting point for me.

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Speaker 2: I realize that you come to church not to hear

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Speaker 2: my opinion, but to hear a correct interpretation of the

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Speaker 2: Word of God God for your life, and an application

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Speaker 2: so that it is not only a historical document, but

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Speaker 2: so that it becomes flesh, and so that the Spirit

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Speaker 2: of God would breathe into your situation. Understanding this, I've

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Speaker 2: already mentioned that many backgrounds attend church. And when I

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Speaker 2: read First Corinthians fourteen, verse thirteen, and Paul is talking

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Speaker 2: about speaking in tongues, you know half the church had flashbacks.

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Speaker 2: And if you really want to start a good YouTube

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Speaker 2: food fight, just talk about tongues in the church, because

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Speaker 2: some people have a private prayer language where they speak

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Speaker 2: in tongues, and it is very beautiful and helpful to

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Speaker 2: many of us who believe in Jesus to pray that way.

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Speaker 2: But yet other people have been told, well, if you

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Speaker 2: don't speak in tongues, you're not full of the Holy Spirit.

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Speaker 2: Never mind the fact that Paul here is saying that

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Speaker 2: every spiritual gift is only given to build others up,

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Speaker 2: not to showcase your status and how much more spiritual

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Speaker 2: you are. I mean, spiritual gifts are just that there

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Speaker 2: are gifts. And what's far more important to God than

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Speaker 2: us going around condescending to others because of our spiritual gift,

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Speaker 2: is that we would cultivate the fruit of the Spirit

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Speaker 2: in our lives. Things like love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness,

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Speaker 2: and self control. These are the graces God would have

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Speaker 2: us to grow in. But right now, if I really

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Speaker 2: preached on First Corinthians fourteen thirteen, the Elevation Church YouTube

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Speaker 2: comment section would get busier than it ever has in

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Speaker 2: the history. I don't know how you type in tongues

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Speaker 2: really matters isn't what is said as much as the

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Speaker 2: interpretation of it, because you know what's true here about

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Speaker 2: this spiritual gift of speaking in tongues, where one person

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Speaker 2: may speak in a heavenly language and someone needs to

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Speaker 2: turnpret it so that it can be understood. It is

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Speaker 2: not only true about languages, it is true about life.

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Speaker 2: To really live successfully, or maybe we could say a

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Speaker 2: more biblical word, faithfully for God, I need the correct interpretation.

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Speaker 2: Touch somebody next to you and say I need an interpretation. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I need an interpretation to be a good husband because

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Speaker 2: men and women are different. And if I don't learn

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Speaker 2: to interpret, if I don't learn to understand that nothing

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Speaker 2: is wrong does not mean literally on the surface, nothing

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Speaker 2: say literally, it doesn't mean literally.

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Speaker 1: I literally died. Think you mean figuratively.

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Speaker 2: Touch somebody, say I need an interpretation. I need an

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Speaker 2: interpretation to be able to raise my kids, you know,

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Speaker 2: because I'll be thinking they're ungrateful when really they're just adolescent.

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Speaker 1: And if you want to play back the tape.

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Speaker 2: From when I was their age, well, let's don't do that.

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Speaker 2: Touch somebody say I need an interpretation. That's what Paul

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Speaker 2: is talking about. And really, no one's life illustrates this

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Speaker 2: more than the Old Testament character Joseph. I mentioned him,

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Speaker 2: and I read this scripture that I want to revisit

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Speaker 2: now in Genesis chapter forty, concerning the power of interpretation. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know, Joseph's life could be used to illustrate injustice.

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Speaker 2: A near assassination from his brothers, and years later in

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Speaker 2: his life he was dealing with false allegations of sexual

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Speaker 2: misconduct and that landed him in prison, which is what

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Speaker 2: put him in this position in Genesis chapter forty, the

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Speaker 2: situation he was in. Okay, principle number one and this

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Speaker 2: write it down if it seems like it's worth writing

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Speaker 2: write this down.

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Speaker 1: My situation is not as important as my interpretation of

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Speaker 2: I don't mean to sound like doctor SEUs to you,

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Speaker 2: of times we want an intervention from God in our

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Speaker 2: situation instead of that God will often give us a

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Speaker 2: different interpretation of the situation, and he won't necessarily change it.

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Speaker 2: And one of the reasons we fight in church is

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Speaker 2: because we don't respect that other believers could read the

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Speaker 2: same scripture that we read and have a different interpretation,

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Speaker 2: and other people could watch the same news stories that

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Speaker 2: we watch and have a different interpretation, because interpretation is

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Speaker 2: based on many different things and filtered through the lens

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Speaker 2: your intellectual ability, and some of us don't have as

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Speaker 2: much to work with, and so you know, we see

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Speaker 2: And you know, somebody says this about evolution, and somebody

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Speaker 1: But we're reading the same story.

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Speaker 2: With a different interpretation, and it doesn't necessarily mean that

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Speaker 2: you're wrong and I'm right, and you're going to hell

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to heaven. And we get so triggered

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Speaker 2: But just because I have a different interpretation doesn't give

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Speaker 2: my interpretation is not valid.

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Speaker 1: Come on clap like that blessed you, even though I

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Speaker 1: know has stepped on your toes a little bit.

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Speaker 2: All right, So Joseph is in prison and he should

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Speaker 2: be in a bad mood. He should be having pity party,

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Speaker 2: day number seven hundred and forty three of his pity party,

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Speaker 2: since Potiphar's wife said, you know that he tried to

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Speaker 1: Be reflecting on all of his brothers trying to.

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Speaker 2: Kill him, and yet he had the presence of mine,

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Speaker 2: like Reggie Miller in the thirty for thirty Dot where

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Speaker 2: he says to these men who are in prison with him,

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Speaker 1: You look sad? Now.

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Speaker 2: Imagine you've had his life, but you still are looking

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Speaker 2: at others through the lens of what's wrong with them?

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Speaker 2: And imagine you have so much resentment and you're in prison,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, you were able to still release empathy.

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Speaker 1: Instead of living in your own resentment. Y'all. I am

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Speaker 2: And they said to him, we've had dreams and there's

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Speaker 1: Now nose why he didn't say, I have the power

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Speaker 2: Interpretation, he said, And God can make sense of this,

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Speaker 2: of this. So Joseph said, look, how polite he is.

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Speaker 2: Cupbearer who used to bring Pharaoh his wine, said, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell you like I dreamed.

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Speaker 2: It, because in the Old Testament, you know, they put

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Speaker 2: And I don't think that you should necessarily think every

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's pizza.

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Speaker 2: A lot of the times has had nothing to do

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Speaker 2: the man started talking, he said, it was a vine

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Speaker 2: and I was holding Pharaoh's cup and I handed it

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Speaker 2: back to him. What does that mean? Joseph's like three

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Speaker 2: branches three days in three days. We could preach about that,

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Speaker 2: couldn't we from the perspective of something else that happened

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Speaker 2: after three days.

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Speaker 1: But we're not going to do that today.

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Speaker 2: He said, three days, Pharaoh's going to lift your head,

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Speaker 2: put you back in your rightful position.

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Speaker 1: This is the interpretation.

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Speaker 2: Now, I remember there were two men and they both

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Speaker 2: had dreams, and the other one's standing over and he

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Speaker 2: hears the interpretation that Joseph gave to the cupbearer.

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Speaker 1: But he's the Pharaoh's chief baker.

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Speaker 2: And apparently Pharaoh is easily triggered because he threw both

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Speaker 1: But we don't know what for.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the brought him pumper nickel and he really wanted

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Speaker 2: Here's Pharaoh's dream, and Pharaoh starts talking about cows. He's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't let them know yet who he is because

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Speaker 1: You know, some people in your.

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Speaker 2: We can't preach it today because this is one principle

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Speaker 1: And read the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: to decide how to interpret this encounter. And I'm preaching

443
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Speaker 2: right to your life today, because you're standing in front

444
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Speaker 2: of something that hurt you.

445
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: You're standing in front of some things.

446
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 2: That happened to you or didn't happen for you that

447
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 2: should have, and standing before.

448
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: His brothers, Joseph has a decision to make what is

449
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: the interpretation of this?

450
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: And now perhaps he remembers his dream that he had

451
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 2: over twenty years ago where he saw all of his

452
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: brothers bowing down to him, but he realized they would

453
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 2: not be bowing down to him so that he could

454
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 2: show off in front of them, but so that he

455
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 2: could serve them. In this moment, he's very powerful. It's

456
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 2: very powerful. What happens next, he's crying and he's hurting,

457
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Speaker 2: and finally he reveals himself. In verse three, Joseph said

458
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Speaker 2: to his brothers, I am Joseph. Is my father still alive?

459
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Speaker 2: But his brothers could not answer him, for they were

460
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Speaker 2: dismayed at his presence. And so Joseph said to his brothers,

461
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: come near to me, please, because you really can't interpret

462
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: what God is doing in your life from a distance.

463
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Speaker 2: And he has to call the thing that has caused

464
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 2: him so much pain closer in order to see what

465
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Speaker 2: God would have him to do. And when they come closer,

466
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: he identifies himself again and said, I am your brother.

467
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Speaker 1: Joseph doesn't disassociate himself from them.

468
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Speaker 2: He acknowledges his position before them, and then he mentions

469
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Speaker 2: what they did to him, whom you sold into Egypt.

470
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Speaker 1: In other words, it is your fault. I'm here verse five.

471
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Speaker 2: And now do not be distressed or angry with yourselves.

472
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Speaker 1: Because you sold me here.

473
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Speaker 2: For God sent me before you to preserve life.

474
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you.

475
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Speaker 2: I really had to pray about that verse because it

476
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Speaker 2: seemed like such a contradiction. He said, On one hand,

477
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: please put it on the screen for just another moment.

478
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Speaker 1: You sold me. Do you see that you sold me?

479
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Speaker 2: So he is placing the blame for his situation on

480
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Speaker 2: his brothers who stand before him. He's not denying their

481
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: hand in bringing him into this situation, nor is he

482
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: denying the dysfunction of it. You sold me, and it

483
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 2: was wrong. You sold me out, you let me down.

484
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Speaker 2: You are the reason. On one hand that I'm here.

485
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: I would not be in Egypt. I would be back

486
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 2: home if it were not for you. But watch the shift.

487
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: This is the message that God gave me for somebody today,

488
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: and I pray that you'll have ears to hear it

489
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: and that God will will.

490
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: Enlighten your spirit to receive it.

491
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: He said, you sold me here for God sent me

492
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 2: before you to preserve life. And what I was praying

493
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: about is which one is it? Did they sell you

494
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 2: or did God send you? And I kept praying about

495
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: that because it sounds like he's talking out of both

496
00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,120
Speaker 2: sides of his mouth, you sold me for God sent me.

497
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: Notice the construct. He doesn't say you sold me, but

498
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: God sent me. It's not even that he's contrasting the two.

499
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: The second is a continuation of the first. God help

500
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 2: me preach this Bible verse right now. This is the

501
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: most anointed verse I've read all year. He said, you

502
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: sold me, and it hurt me not but you sold me.

503
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: For God sent me.

504
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: Don't be mad about it, don't even punish yourself, and

505
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: don't cower in my presence. You don't need to spend

506
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: another day tormented by it, because now I see through it.

507
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,479
Speaker 2: It's been a lot of years since you pushed me

508
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: in that pit. It's been a lot of years since

509
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: you broke my heart. It's been a lot of years

510
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 2: since my dad left me. It's been a lot of

511
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: years since they walked out. It's been a lot of

512
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: years since I went down. It's been a lot of

513
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 2: years since.

514
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: They lied on me. It's been a lot of years

515
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: since they said I did it. It's been a lot

516
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: of years, And now.

517
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: I've got a I've got an interpretation of the event.

518
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 2: I've been studying about this, and I realize it is

519
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: not the event that determines the outcome.

520
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: It is your interpretation of.

521
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: The event that determines the outcome.

522
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: And so watch this you'll be good. Sit down.

523
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 2: The first one is the event you sold me. The

524
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 2: second one is the interpretation God sent me.

525
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: Which one are you going.

526
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: To live in the event or the interpretation? And here's

527
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: a better question. Here's a better question. Who is your interpreter?

528
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: Are you interpreting your God through your life or your

529
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: life through your God? Because see your interpreter. Sometimes it's

530
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: not what's happening, it's how you are interpreting what's happening.

531
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: Right. I thought she was sleeping, but she was really praying.

532
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: I thought they didn't love me, but really they just

533
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: couldn't be there for me because they were going through

534
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: some of their own issues. Is not the event, it's

535
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: the interpretation. I thought the fire came to kill me,

536
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: but I found out God was using the fire that

537
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: I thought was gonna kill me to refine me. So

538
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: God will use a fire that nippechanesser started to refine.

539
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: Me and bring me forth this gold.

540
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: I don't just need the spirit of God to help

541
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: me interpret tongues. I need God to help me interpret trauma.

542
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: And trouble and trials, and so I'm praying like Paul

543
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: told the church, to pray for the power to interpret.

544
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: I need the power to interpret. How many of you

545
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: need the power to interpret by the wisdom of the

546
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: Spirit of God. You don't need the spirit of God

547
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: to give you goose bumps. A lot of things can

548
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: give you goosebumps. You know, if you put on Mariah Carey,

549
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: I can make it through the rain right now. It's

550
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: one of her lesser known hits, just off the album

551
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: with the rainbow on it where she's not wearing enough clothes.

552
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: So I never looked at the cover when I was

553
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: a teenager. Well, anyway, the problem with that, it can

554
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: give you a feeling. I don't need the spirit of

555
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: God just to give me a feeling. If it's a feeling, great,

556
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: But I need the Spirit of God to give me focus.

557
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: The unique property of the Spirit of God. You know,

558
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: you got the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

559
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: The Father that's the legislative branch of the government of God.

560
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: He's the one who makes the laws.

561
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: You've got the Son, who is the executive branch of

562
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: the government of Heaven, who enforces the grace of God

563
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: and takes the penalty of your sin because you can't

564
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: keep the law.

565
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: And then you've got the.

566
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: Judicial branch, which is the Holy Spirit which lives inside

567
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: of you. That helps you to get in a situation

568
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: and say, I don't know what to do, I don't

569
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: know what to say, but God, will you give me

570
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: an interpretation of what the people in my life need

571
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: right now this season I'm in right now, I need.

572
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: The Holy Spirit.

573
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: Or I'll get it wrong. I'll get it wrong. And

574
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: some of us have the wrong interpreter. We are interpreting

575
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: our present through our past. We are interpreting our purpose

576
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: through our pain. We are interpreting our entire life through

577
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: one little situation. We are interpreting our future through our flaws.

578
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: When you have the wrong interpreter, messages everything up. The

579
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: first time I went to speak in a country where

580
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: they didn't speak English, the first international speaking trip that

581
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: I remember was Australia that they speak kind of English.

582
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: I have to pick on the ossis they shorten everything,

583
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: kind of speak English, but they nickname everything.

584
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: They call praise songs praisees, and that's weird.

585
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: And when I go over there, they don't call me Steve,

586
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: and they call me Steve, and there's an inn on

587
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: my name for a reason my mom put it there.

588
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: Would you please let my consonants come through customs and

589
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: put the in on the end of my name.

590
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: I love Australia. I've been there many times.

591
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: But one time I went to preach in a place

592
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: where they didn't speak English, and I called a wiser

593
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: minister who had preached many times in international settings, and said,

594
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: give me some just different things I need to know

595
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: about preaching through an interpreter. Translator is for written, interpreter

596
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: is for spoken. I said, I need some of your

597
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: wisdom on speaking through an interpreter. He gave me a

598
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: few things, but one thing he said that stood out.

599
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: He said, First, pray that you get a good one.

600
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: He said, because you'll think that he's saying what you said,

601
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: and sometimes you can tell. I said, how will I

602
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: tell if I have a bad interpreter? He said, one thing,

603
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: he'll talk longer than you. When you finish your sentence,

604
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: he'll say three sentences. That means he's putting something in

605
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: that you didn't intend to say.

606
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: Can I tell you all something?

607
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: The devil has been putting some stuff in come on

608
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: between what God has spoken to you. He puts thoughts

609
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: in people's minds about you, in your mind that they

610
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: weren't even thinking about you.

611
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: Makes you paranoid. Oh man, look how they're looking at me.

612
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: They don't like me.

613
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: No, they actually don't like their husband, and they came

614
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: to work in a bad mood because of something else

615
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: that had nothing to do with you. But the devil

616
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: will make you think that they don't like you because

617
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: he's an.

618
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: Interpreter that likes to add. He puts all that you have.

619
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: You ever had this happen before in a situation where

620
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: you start interpreting it wrong, And now all of a

621
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: sudden you're thinking that they said things or thought things

622
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: that they didn't say or think. He said, the other

623
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: extreme you got to look out for. Sometimes they won't

624
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: say everything that you just they'll cut it short, he said.

625
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: Sometimes they'll leave stuff out. And that's what the enemy

626
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 2: will do when you let him interpret your life. He'll

627
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: only show you what's wrong with you. But he won't

628
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: let you see how God is going to use everything

629
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: that you consider to be a deficiency to bring you

630
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: into your destiny. So he will only keep you confined

631
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 2: come on church. That golf clap that's not even worth

632
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: doing if you're going to brace God and worship God

633
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 2: for what he's spoken over your life, and the fact

634
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: that no man can add to it or subtract from it.

635
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 2: If he said it, it will happen. If he said in.

636
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: Three days he will rise.

637
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: I might be on a cross now, baby, but resurrection

638
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 2: power is in my god future. So before we leave

639
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: this place today, I just want to give you five

640
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: things to pray for. Don't get nervous where we are

641
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: now approaching our initial dissent.

642
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: Make sure your bibles are securely open.

643
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: But I thought we would just spell out the word dream,

644
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: because Joseph interpreted not only the dream of the prisoners,

645
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: not only the dream of Pharaoh, but his own dream

646
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: that he had at seventeen years old, not through the

647
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: lens of what he had lost in his life.

648
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: You know how you keep doing it? You keep get

649
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: You keep focusing so much on.

650
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: Who left you and the opportunity that you wasted that

651
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: you keep bringing that forward with you into the next opportunity.

652
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: And it's messing with you and you need the Holy Spirit.

653
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 2: This is what the Holy Spirit does speak in tongues.

654
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Shout at the top of your lungs, that's awesome.

655
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: Get a goosebump. I'll get one with you.

656
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: We'll go, we'll goose will rub our goosebumps together.

657
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: It's all wonderful.

658
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: But what I really need the spirit of God for

659
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: it is for those groans that words can't express.

660
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: And I'll give them to you and we'll go and

661
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: we'll call it a day, and we'll call it a series.

662
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: But the first one that I'm praying for the power

663
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: to interpret, like Paul said, because I know that interpretations

664
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: belong to God. So I need God, God help me

665
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: to interpret my desires. I don't sometimes know why I

666
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: want what I want, and neither did Paul.

667
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: He was like, what I want to do it? Don't

668
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: do what I don't want to do it. Don't do

669
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: that didn't make any sense. If you want to do it,

670
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: you want to do it. What do you mean you

671
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: want to do it? You don't do it?

672
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 2: Like, well, there's flesh, there's the spirit. I got a

673
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 2: new nature. I love God, and then four minutes later,

674
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: I really.

675
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: I really still love God, but.

676
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: I love something that's the opposite of God too.

677
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: And I don't know what to do, and I need

678
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit to show me why I want what

679
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: I want, because if the Holy Spirit doesn't.

680
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 2: Interpret my desires, I will run around my whole life

681
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: trying to get what I want, and then when I

682
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: get it, I won't even want what I've got. God,

683
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: help me interpret my desires, because sometimes what will happen

684
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 2: is it's not like one desire is divine and one

685
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: is demonic, and you know there's no devil and no angel.

686
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes what the enemy will do to me.

687
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: Is he'll take a god given desire and distort it.

688
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: And what I really want is not a bad thing.

689
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 1: It's not a bad desire.

690
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 2: I notice a lot of people these days seem to

691
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: want to be famous, famous for what famous?

692
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: So I could be famous?

693
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 2: Have you noticed that fame is like the number one

694
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: cultural value now? And I was thinking about that as

695
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: to why everybody wants to be famous.

696
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: I mean, you think about it. Famous is kind of

697
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: a weird thing.

698
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: People aren't really built to receive that amount of attention.

699
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: And when you see the number of famous people who

700
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: are famous and don't even want to go on living,

701
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: it should cause you to question what is the real

702
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: thing that I want?

703
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: Is it really fame? Is it really.

704
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: Followers on some platform full of people who don't even

705
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: know me, but only the presentation and projection that I

706
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: choose to stage, the props that I put in my life?

707
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: Is that really what I want? Do I really want

708
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: to be noticed? Or do I really want to be known?

709
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: Because I think a lot of times we're trying to

710
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 2: be noticed and the real desires we want to be known?

711
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 2: And the Spirit of God can show you your real

712
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: desire to say, I know that you're doing all this

713
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: to try to get people to notice you, but I'm

714
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 2: the only one who really knows you. And see when

715
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 2: people know you from a distance and they notice things

716
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: about you, but they don't know the real you, and

717
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: you still feel lonely. It's so important that you ask

718
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: the Spirit of God things like this, What am I

719
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: really spending fourteen sixteen hours a day working for?

720
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: Is it really to give my kids the life that

721
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: they Yeah? Is it really that?

722
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: Are you really trying to prove something to somebody who's

723
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: not even paying attention.

724
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,479
Speaker 1: Like early in Joseph's life, He's like, you were all

725
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: bowing down to me.

726
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 2: It was awesome twenty years later, he's the one crumbling

727
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 2: on his knees because he realizes that the desire God

728
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: gave him was not so he could be important, but

729
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 2: so that he could have influence, not so he could

730
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: have status, but so that he could be a servant. So, God,

731
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 2: show me my desires, Show me which ones come from you,

732
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 2: and help me. You know, I used to always pray

733
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 2: Some thirty seven for it says, delight yourself in the Lord,

734
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: and He will give you the desires of your heart.

735
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: And an immature interpretation of that is God's going to

736
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: give me what I want.

737
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: You know, God's just peeling them off. You know what

738
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: you want, what you want? What you want?

739
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: Now, I look at it like he will give me

740
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 2: the right desires. He will give me, I part unto me,

741
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 2: the right desires. So I don't just come up wanting

742
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 2: to impress people. But I start asking God, how can

743
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: I be a blessing? Because I cannot simultaneously be a

744
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: blessing if I'm trying to be Impressif so, I want

745
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 2: to get out of my own way and ask God

746
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: to interpret my desires. God, I want you, I want

747
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: your presence in my life.

748
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: God.

749
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: I want your pleasure, your smile. God, I want harmony

750
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 2: and peace with you, even if it costs me sometimes

751
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: position with people. God, I don't want to just be popular.

752
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 2: I want to live a life of purpose. I want

753
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: to know that this matters and means something at the

754
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: end of it all. So I need the power of

755
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: interpretation for my desires. And see, you can't really have

756
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 2: that if you don't get past rejection. So the second

757
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 2: thing is, God, will you help me interpret my rejection?

758
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 2: Will help me look at my brothers not just through

759
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 2: the lens of what they did to me, but through

760
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 2: the lens of what you want to do through me.

761
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: I did not expect.

762
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: An amen right there, but I didn't expect that level

763
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: of silence. I'll tell you that right now, that that

764
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: was just over the top. Praise Lord, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah,

765
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: all of them. Yeah, because he says two things. He says,

766
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: you rejected me, but God protected me. See it, you know,

767
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: see it again on the screen? Do you. I can

768
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: show it to you on the screen that push a button.

769
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: It'll come right up on the screen. Genesis forty five

770
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: to five.

771
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: You sold me.

772
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: God sent me to preserve life. So when I was seventeen,

773
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: it felt like rejection. But now that I've grown, and

774
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: now that I've experienced the grace of God, and now

775
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: that I've let go of the resentment and I refuse.

776
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: To hold on to it.

777
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 2: I see that what man calls rejection, sometimes God calls protection.

778
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: Some of the.

779
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: People who left you, God was removing them.

780
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: God wanted to do some things for you that only.

781
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: He could do, and if he had let them say yes,

782
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: you wouldn't.

783
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: Have been ready for what was match. I'm gonna come

784
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: back to these and preach a whole series on them.

785
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: Each one. I'm gonna preach a series on dream. I

786
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: promise you I will do it. If you stay here

787
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: long enough, I will do it. I might be ninety

788
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: three years old, board over three.

789
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm APPRECIAU singer because I gotta get God to help.

790
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: Me interpret what my desires and rejection, and then I

791
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: gotta make sure that God filters my emotions. So God,

792
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: help me interpret my emotions because I know what I feel. Well,

793
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: let me be honest as a man. Sometimes I don't

794
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 2: even know what I feel. And being married has helped

795
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: me so much with interpretation. I really love my wife.

796
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: I jokingly call Holly the Holly Spirit. It's only half joking.

797
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: She's a great interpreter. She interprets things. One time we

798
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: were fighting about a bill. I think it was like

799
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: three two hundred and forty three dollars. And guess what

800
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: I didn't have in the bank account three thousand, two

801
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: hundred and forty whatever. I said, dollars, And I got

802
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: so angry. I say, and I don't yell. I'm not

803
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: the kind of guy that goes around yelling at his wife.

804
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: But I was yelling at her this day. This was

805
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: years ago.

806
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: This was like, you know, the early stage is a marriage,

807
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 2: and so you know, you'll forgive me for being angry.

808
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: But she she, at one point in the argument, goes,

809
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: why are you so angry?

810
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: I said, that'sens around. You know what I was telling

811
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: the truth. I wasn't really angry.

812
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 2: I was afraid, and it was expressing itself as anger.

813
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: But she was able to interpret the fear that was

814
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: driving my anger. And when she realized that I wasn't

815
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: mad at her.

816
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: I was mad at the attorney who sent that bill,

817
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: and mad at BB and T for not having enough

818
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: money in my bank account to pay the attorney who

819
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 2: sent the bill.

820
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: See how an interpretation can change everything.

821
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: She was able to realize, it's not me versus you

822
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: in this moment, it's us versus this bill, and let's

823
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: figure it out together. But if you don't pray for

824
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: the power to interpret, you will just live at the

825
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: level of the emotion and never know what is beneath

826
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: the surface. And you will repeat the emotion on the

827
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: next person who steps into the line of fire of

828
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 2: your unfiltered experiences.

829
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna download this podcast myself.

830
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 2: I think, all right, so God help me interpret my emotion.

831
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: So I say, I'm depressed. I'm in depression right now.

832
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: Well, maybe maybe you are depressed or maybe you know

833
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: sometimes it's just it's just Monday. You always feel this

834
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: way on Monday.

835
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: This hasn't been outside yet.

836
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, But if you don't ask God, God, see, do

837
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,959
Speaker 2: not interpretations belong to God.

838
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: That's what Joseph knew.

839
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 2: That's what Joseph knew because on one hand, emotionally, he's angry,

840
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: he's crying, and he sends everybody out of his presence.

841
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: But then beneath the emotion, he realized the reason now

842
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: here's a good question, are you living at the level

843
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: of reaction or reason? Because if you always just react, react, react, but.

844
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: Never ask God, what is the reason I'm.

845
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: Reacting this way, you will fix the wrong factors.

846
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: And this is where a.

847
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,959
Speaker 2: Lot of preaching gets so mean and hateful and impossible,

848
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: because we're correcting behaviors but not addressing the beliefs that

849
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 2: drive the behaviors. So you'll hear a preacher sometimes preach

850
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: against addiction, but why is she drinking six classes?

851
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: Or you'll hear it preached.

852
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 2: Against, you know, pornography or sexual addiction, and the preacher

853
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 2: will never address the fact that you're reaching out for God.

854
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: When you log on that site, you just don't know.

855
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 2: It's God that you're reaching out for, so you're trying

856
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 2: to fill it with something that leaves you more empty.

857
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 2: But you're really reaching out for God. But what you

858
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: really want isn't sex, it's connection. So you run around

859
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: for sex, but you don't get connection because it's empty

860
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 2: because you never ask God why. And this takes reflection,

861
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: and this takes sitting alone with God and even other

862
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: people that you trust, and joining an e group and

863
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: sharing some stuff that makes you uncomfortable, shameless plug. Today

864
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 2: there's tenths outside join any group. She again interpret Pharaoh said,

865
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: I need someone interpret my drink. The prisoner said, someone

866
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: interpreted the dream. But really I need God to help

867
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: me interpret not only the hard things I've been through.

868
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: But look at Joseph. Now he's in a position of power.

869
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 2: Not only does have the power of interpretation that God

870
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 2: has given him, but he has the power to punish

871
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: his brothers or provide for them.

872
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: And what's he going to do with his advantage? That's

873
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: the fourth one.

874
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: God, show me the advantages that you've given me, and

875
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: show me why you gave.

876
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: Them to me.

877
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: Because when people receive advantages, but they think that the

878
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 2: purpose for the advantage so that they can call attention

879
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Speaker 2: to themselves, that's when leaders become toxic. That's when rich

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00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: people become oppressive. The hard thing is sometimes recognizing the advantage.

881
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: Because remember when David.

882
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: Killed Goliath, and Bible says that after he killed him,

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00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: he took his sword. I always thought that was an

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Speaker 2: illustration of how today's attack can become tomorrow's advantage.

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Speaker 1: You sold me for God sent me, and the.

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Speaker 2: Whole time that people were pushing me in a pit.

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00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: God was preparing me so that I could provide with

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Speaker 2: the power that He's given me.

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Speaker 1: And maybe the reason that you went through.

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Speaker 2: The attack is so that you could have an advantage.

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Speaker 2: Do you hear me, Just forget I'm talking. Hear this

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Speaker 2: from God. He wanted to say this to you, and

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Speaker 2: he's just using me to do it. Quit calling it

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00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: an attack. It's an advantage. Quit calling it a weakness

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Speaker 2: because it is in your weakness that.

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Speaker 1: He is strong. Quit being ashamed of it.

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00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,479
Speaker 2: Quit trying to run from it, hide it and numb

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00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: it and cover it up. The attack is the advantage.

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Speaker 2: And you know what Paul said. He said, I am

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Speaker 2: convinced that the sufferings of this present time are not

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00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: even worthy to be compared with the glory that will

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00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 2: be revealed.

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Speaker 1: So I interpret my.

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Speaker 2: Pain through the lens of God's purpose and my feelings

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00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 2: through my faith. So God give me the power to interpret.

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Speaker 2: Not just to interpret when I get there, not just

907
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 2: to interpret when it's all better. But God, help me

908
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: to interpret when I'm in the middle. I'm in the middle.

909
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: Joseph spent twenty years with a dream they contradicted everything

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00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: he was facing in his situation. And yet the most

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00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 2: frequent line that is repeated in the account of his

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Speaker 2: life is this, the Lord was with.

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Speaker 1: Joseph.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's not something you always feel. That's not

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Speaker 2: something that you can always prove. That's not something that

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00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: you always have facts to back it up. But I

917
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: don't need facts. I got faith. I don't need feelings.

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Speaker 2: I've got faith God. I want to interpret my life

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Speaker 2: as it unfolds through the lens that you love me

920
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: and that you're with me. And I need a faith

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00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: interpretation because you know, Church, the world is trying to

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00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: give us a fear interpretation every single day, and if

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00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: you read the paper, it's a fear interpretation. But when

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00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: I come to God, I can look at everything in

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Speaker 2: my life and look at it through the lens of

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Speaker 2: what He's spoken to me. And the power of interpretation

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Speaker 2: is to confess the presence of God in every situation,

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Speaker 2: whether you feel it or not. And if you need

929
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: God to show you something right now in your life,

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00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 2: stand to your feet so I can pray for you.

931
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Speaker 2: Because this message was not meant for those who just

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00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 2: want to live by your five senses. And this message

933
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: was not intended for those who just want to spend

934
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: the rest of their life blaming people. And this message

935
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: was not for those who everything is easy and you

936
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 2: can always explain it and you understand it all. This

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00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 2: message is for someone who needs an interpretation.

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Speaker 1: God. I don't need you to explain everything to me.

939
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: You're God and I'm not. But I need to know God,

940
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: what you are doing in this moment of my life.

941
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to spend the.

942
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 2: Rest of my life projecting stuff. I need an interpretation,

943
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 2: Paul said, pray for the power of interpretation. You can't

944
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: get this on your own. You can't get this by logic.

945
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 2: You can't see this on a spreadsheet. You cannot consult

946
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 2: bank accounts and other people and books in a library.

947
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: This only comes from God.

948
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 1: God. I need an interpretation.

949
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: I need to know why my kids are acting crazy

950
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: right now. I need to know God, why my money

951
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: is acting funny right now.

952
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 1: I need to know why they said no.

953
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 2: I need to know why this keeps happening. I need

954
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: to know why this pattern keeps submerging.

955
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: And I need to know more than anything.

956
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 3: That you are with me in this moment, even when

957
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 3: I don't feel it. I need an interpretation. Do not

958
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 3: interpretations belong to God. Doesn't he have the power to

959
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: show you why I made you? Doesn't he have the

960
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 3: power to comfort you in all of your trouble. Doesn't

961
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 3: he have the power to assure you of His presence

962
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 3: in this moment? Father, thank you for your word, and

963
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 3: thank you for your people. And I pray that today

964
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 3: I have been a faithful interpreter of what you said

965
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Speaker 3: through Joseph, and what you said through Paul, and what

966
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Speaker 3: you're saying to each life represented in this place. Today

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00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 3: I asked God that you would interpret the message exactly

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Speaker 3: as each hearer needs to receive it. In fact, if

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Speaker 3: you would just lift your hands right now and show

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00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 3: the Lord that you're listening, we'll receive from you in

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Speaker 3: this moment.

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Speaker 1: As you speak to us. Thank you for joining us.

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974
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: this ministry. Is because of you that this ministry is possible.

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00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,879
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976
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,280
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977
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,640
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