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Speaker 3: The one and only Bucky Brooks. Buck. How you doing.

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Speaker 4: I'm great? How you doing? Andy?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that they hit it. You great, because

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Speaker 2: you know, I hate to be the bearer of bad news.

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Speaker 2: But like North Carolina, they look so good in the

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Speaker 2: games in Dayton, they come right back. Old Miss slapped

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Speaker 2: them around. I'm sorry, I am sorry. I feel for

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Speaker 2: I know seventy one sixty four and you know I

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Speaker 2: had that gut punch yesterday because I didn't go to

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Speaker 2: Saint John's. But I'm in New York and I love

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Speaker 2: to see Saint John's just roll along and that was tough.

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Speaker 2: That was a tough one. I mean, we'll get into

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Speaker 2: a couple of questions about this North Carolina thing. Number

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Speaker 2: one after that game, and I just happened to think

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Speaker 2: about this. You played the game, you played college football,

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Speaker 2: played in the pros, the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever cried after a loss?

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Speaker 2: I saw the McNee state coach yesterday who's leaving to

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Speaker 2: go to NC State. I saw him crying in the

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Speaker 5: I think the last time I was visibly upset after

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Speaker 5: second shot and my dad's high school coach. My dad,

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Speaker 4: It is never that serious.

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Speaker 5: So from that moment on, I never really took those

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Speaker 2: Wow. And I'm sure you've seen teammates crying after losses

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Speaker 2: even in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure right.

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Speaker 5: Looking in big moments in big games, like you talked

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Speaker 5: Did you lose on the last second play, did you

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Speaker 5: From someone who never makes those types of mistakes, I

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Speaker 5: Vinitary knocked the field goal, let the buzzer to win it,

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Speaker 5: same gut punch, you know, the sadness and all that

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Speaker 5: it's not for you. Yeah, that part is hard, But

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Speaker 5: I've never, like from that moment, i haven't cried.

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Speaker 2: All Right, that's good to hear. I'm glad that you

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying like for me, I just have never

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Speaker 4: I think Chris Dunn made have been his name.

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Speaker 5: They hit the three point shot to win it in

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Speaker 5: maybe twenty sixteen. I felt the gut punch. I still

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Speaker 2: All right now, speaking of crying, are we going to

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Speaker 3: Is he going to be gone?

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Speaker 2: What's the status of Hubert Davis coach events University of

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Speaker 5: You know, it's funny people bring that up, like he's

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Speaker 4: Even though he's the fastest.

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Speaker 4: So to me, it's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 5: But I just feel like there's there's buzz around the

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Speaker 5: College landscape is different, and I think you can't expect

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Speaker 5: yesteryear because it's just a completely different landscape, no doubt

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Speaker 2: You know, I did some research on North Carolina because

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Speaker 2: The athletic director, Bubba Cunningham, you know, I almost couldn't

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Speaker 2: believe this. He's going to get sixty seven, nine hundred

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Speaker 3: What the hell did he do? Why is he getting

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Speaker 2: And his salaries over eight hundred thousand salaries, eight hundred

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Speaker 2: Get this for making the sweet sixteen. If they would

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Speaker 2: if North Carolina would have won the national championship. DC year,

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Speaker 2: he gets an additional one hundred thousand dollars. Why, I mean,

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Speaker 2: come on, I mean, I mess. Hubert Davis probably has

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Speaker 2: But the athletic direct there, Bubba cunning Head, what has

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, like the athletic director supports all of

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Speaker 4: I'm not opposed to that.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure in the NIO did like you probably are

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Speaker 4: So no, I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 2: You know, he would have take some of that cash

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Speaker 3: That's what he should do. But that's for another day. Okay,

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Speaker 3: here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: I have watched probably more basketball in the last three

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, and I'm going to give a Mike North.

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Speaker 2: Quote here, if Troy University or Troy State, whatever the

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Speaker 2: if they were playing in my backyard, I closed the drapes. Really,

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Speaker 2: there's no way, on God's green Earth, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: If you want to talk on Mark, I'm gonna get

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Speaker 2: Would you watch the games if there was no betting

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Speaker 3: Would you watch these games if there were no brackets?

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Speaker 2: That's all I want to know, because I don't think

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Speaker 3: But I did fill out a bracket for Fox.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even look to see what I did because

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Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm all torn up already. Didn't put a

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Speaker 2: lot of thought process in it, because there's not much

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Speaker 2: really is. So you know, would you watch it if

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Speaker 4: I don't you know.

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Speaker 5: I didn't fill out a bracket, but I'm still watching

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Speaker 5: my team has been knocked out of it. But I

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Speaker 5: would say that maybe because it's so unpredictable this year

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Speaker 5: I've watched more college basketball than the last month than

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Speaker 4: Terms of knowing the team, seeing the teams and those things.

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Speaker 5: I watch Houston and Gonzaga last night, watched I mean

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Speaker 5: like pretty much all the tournament games.

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Speaker 4: So to me, they're still compelling.

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Speaker 5: It's different because I think so many people want to

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Speaker 5: that is appreciating these teams that are put together, but

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Speaker 5: more so, I would say, appreciating the coaches. To me,

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Speaker 5: the tournament has become more about the coaches, seeing Rick

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Speaker 3: For one second.

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad you mentioned Dusty May's name because last

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Speaker 2: year Michigan was eight and twenty four.

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Speaker 3: This guy is like really under the radar.

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Speaker 2: He had no, they don't took didn't even mention his

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Speaker 3: I don't think Dusty May.

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Speaker 2: I mean eight and twenty four last year Michigan and

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry I did to rupt, but.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, I mean I'm no, I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: Like he's done, he's done a terrific job. Like he

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Speaker 5: get into the sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 4: Like all the props in the world deserve to go

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Speaker 5: To me, it's just been a fascinating deal, like just

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Speaker 5: the coaches seeing seeing those guys go to work, ten

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Speaker 5: those guys put their finish touches. The thing that is

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Speaker 5: that shine in the tournament. Looking at these guys continue

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Speaker 3: Right I speaking to good coaches.

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Speaker 2: I don't get a little pop over here to my

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Speaker 5: He didn't show enough toughness to play through difficult moments,

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Speaker 5: they start playing hard. He comes back home, he knocks

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Speaker 4: They just play hardy.

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Speaker 5: They went toe to toe with Saint John's because the

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Speaker 5: it's great to see coaches make a difference. He certainly

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Speaker 4: That's why they're successful.

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Speaker 3: No doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: So yesterday two of the four number one seeds advanced

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Speaker 2: They beat up on Create and that was a pretty

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, you talk about like carbon copies,

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Speaker 4: To me, it just shows that.

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Speaker 4: It appears to me that the coaches that.

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Speaker 2: You know, one of the best stories I had seen,

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Speaker 2: So he put another wrinkle in the whole situation. I

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Speaker 2: He sold himself and he's got it done. He's a nil.

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Speaker 2: He's on the nil store with merchandise. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's done a really good job.

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Speaker 5: Parlane his success, making it right, making it pop, making

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Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting like Miunie State will Wade to coach.

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Speaker 5: Already accepted the NC State job before the tournament started

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Speaker 4: Uh there.

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Speaker 5: There's been a conversation about him taking his team with

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Speaker 4: We'll see if that happens. But Al has changed the landscape.

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Speaker 5: March Madness is fun because the stories that we finally

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Speaker 4: But he became like one of.

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Speaker 5: The big stories in terms of the student manager, one

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Speaker 5: Happy for him. For being able to parlay it and

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Speaker 2: It, no doubt about that. Texas Tech beat Drake yesterday

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Speaker 3: Maybe there isn't.

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Speaker 2: I think it was Drake that had three guys that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I would say a few things have happened,

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Speaker 5: And the more mature players are doing it, and that's

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Speaker 5: That's why it'll be interesting to see how Duke fairs

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Speaker 4: That are kind of hardened. And the only way that

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Speaker 2: Experience, no doubt about that. So you got Duke Bala today,

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Speaker 2: So you know it's getting better. I mean, there were

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Speaker 2: Rodgers was in Pittsburgh talking to the Steelers. You know,

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Speaker 2: they says that for six hours. Were you surprised to

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Speaker 2: hear about that, because you know, you even mentioned to

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Speaker 2: me that you didn't think that Mike Tomlin would want

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Speaker 2: to put up with the garbage of Aaron tom Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 4: I didn't think so.

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Speaker 5: But then this is a team that is desperate to

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Speaker 5: advance in the playoffs. They haven't moved forward in the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: I think since twenty sixteen under Mike Tomlin. Quarterback play

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Speaker 5: has been a huge issue. Since Ben Roethlisberger left, maybe

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Speaker 5: they feel like they have the ruction environment to be

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Speaker 5: able to get Aaron Rodgers to play at a level

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Speaker 5: that will help them. The thing about it, and there's

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Speaker 5: already been some frustration, like Cam Hayward was, you know,

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Speaker 5: voicing his frustrations about the Aaron Rodgers delay thing and

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Speaker 5: him you know, taking his time and doing that and

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Speaker 5: kind of treating the Stillers like a second class citizen.

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Speaker 5: But right now, where the Stillers are and where Aaron

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Speaker 5: Rodgers is like, they need him, maybe even more than

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Speaker 5: he needs them, and so they have to kind of

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Speaker 5: wait in position. It's crazy to think that the Stillers

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Speaker 5: brand is at that point, but that's where they're at.

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Speaker 5: Can it work, Yeah, it can work, but a few

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Speaker 5: things must happen. One, Mike Tomlin has to set a

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Speaker 5: hard line in terms of the hierarchy, the pecking order,

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Speaker 5: and how things work in the locker room. Two, Aaron

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Speaker 5: Rodgers has to relent some on his offense.

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Speaker 4: He's played in one offense.

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Speaker 5: He likes to bring that offense wherever he goes, but

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Speaker 5: that offense is dated. Can he and Arthur Smith create

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Speaker 5: a partnership that would allow the still to have an

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Speaker 5: offense that works for everybody that remains to be seen.

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Speaker 4: And then what is the money?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 5: What is Aaron Rodgers' leadership skills? Like all of those

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Speaker 5: things because you can see a lot of things about

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Speaker 5: the previous quarterbacks that they had and Russell Wilson and

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Speaker 5: Justin Fields. You can never dispute that they were good dudes.

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Speaker 5: You didn't hear anything about their dude factor in the

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Speaker 5: locker room. Can you have that relatability in the locker

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Speaker 5: room if you're Aaron Rodgers? That is a big thing

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Speaker 5: for me before we even talk about like the money

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Speaker 5: and all.

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Speaker 4: This other stuff. Does he fit the culture the environment

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Speaker 4: of the Steelers? To me, that's a million dollar question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I like what you said, Like, you know,

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Speaker 2: the Stealers may need him more than he needs them.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. It's the ongoing drama will

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Speaker 2: continue with that. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Ferman And

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Speaker 2: We got the blame game. But right now, the seventh

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Speaker 2: of April is a very very big day.

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Speaker 2: All right, Bucky, let's get back to this football situation

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Speaker 2: right now. We talked about Aaron Rodgers, who is the

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Speaker 2: only one in the world not watching basketball on Friday.

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Speaker 2: He was in Pittsburgh interviewing I guess, or they're interviewing him,

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Speaker 2: whatever it may be. But let's talk about the New

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Speaker 2: York Football Giants because they were flirting with Aaron for

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Speaker 2: a while. They missed out on Matthew Stafford. The Stafford,

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Speaker 2: you know, he used that as a crutch I guess

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Speaker 2: to stay with the La Rams. So now the Giants,

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Speaker 2: oh my goodness, they signed Jameis Winston. Not a bad

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Speaker 2: deal because when it got two years for eight mili

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Speaker 2: on the standards over the NFL it's kind of cheap,

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Speaker 2: it really is. But you know, the only quarterbacks they

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Speaker 2: have now are Jamis Winston than Tommy DeVito. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the only two in the roster is Well, they'll draft someone,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure, but it doesn't look good. It really doesn't

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Speaker 2: look that. They may be in worse shape than any

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Speaker 2: team in the NFL on quarterbacks, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean right now.

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Speaker 5: But the good thing is you don't play the season

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Speaker 5: right now. They still have an opportunity to pick up

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Speaker 5: a young quarterback in the draft. You know how the

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Speaker 5: draft is gonna fall. They may find their quarterback of

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Speaker 5: the future at three.

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Speaker 4: Part of the.

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Speaker 5: Reason you want to have Jameis Winston under wraps or

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Speaker 5: have a veteran quarterback under wraps, is if we put

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Speaker 5: the ball down, do we have enough to start? Jameis

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Speaker 5: Winston certainly has been a start in this league. No

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Speaker 5: matter what we think about his career, he started a

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Speaker 5: lot of games, and he would give them the veteran presence,

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Speaker 5: the guy to be great in the locker room. The

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Speaker 5: guy would be great with a young quarterback. So you

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Speaker 5: want to make sure that you started there and then

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Speaker 5: you kind of figure out what it looks like. But

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Speaker 5: he's had some success, but the success and the moments,

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Speaker 5: the highs have been high, the loads have been low.

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Speaker 5: But we'll see they at least have a veteran quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Take me a bridge for a young quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this came out of nowhere. This came out of

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Speaker 2: left field because you talked about the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: The number ten pick a year ago in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: he's going to be at the quarterback right now and

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Speaker 2: probably be the quarterback of the future because Sam Donald

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Speaker 2: right now is with Seattle. However, now the rumors are

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Speaker 2: coming out that the Vikings have shown some interest by

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Speaker 2: aiding Ryan Tannehill. All Right, Tannehill is no kid. He's

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Speaker 2: like thirty five, thirty six years old. But I guess

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Speaker 2: you need a veteran backup in this league right now.

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Speaker 2: Playing seventeen games, you got to get a backup. There's

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Speaker 2: no doubt in my mind. I mean really, with JJ

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Speaker 2: McCarthy coming off with that injury, you just don't know

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Speaker 2: how he's going to be.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he just missed the entire year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So if they signed Bryan Tannehill, this is another

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Speaker 5: thing where you want a veteran presence, but someone that's

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Speaker 5: not going to threaten the young quarterback, someone who can

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Speaker 5: be a really good pro, meaning his job is not

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Speaker 5: necessarily to mentor the young guy, but he comes in

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Speaker 5: as a backup knowing your primary thing is to make

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Speaker 5: sure that the young guy is ready if you have

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Speaker 5: to step into play, Yes, you need to be ready,

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Speaker 5: but we need you to be a good dude in

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Speaker 5: the quarterback room. Show him how to get his plan together.

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Speaker 5: When I mean plan, how does the quarterback plan this week?

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Speaker 5: What things are we looking at on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

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Speaker 5: Saturday to get ready to play well on Sunday. Ryan Tannehill,

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Speaker 5: you've played at a pro bowl level in this league.

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Speaker 5: You've had success, You've been up and down, You've been

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Speaker 5: an NFL Comeback Player of the Year. If you can

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Speaker 5: give some of that guidance, some of those wisdom, some

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Speaker 5: of that wisdom, those nuggets to the young quarterback. JJ

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Speaker 5: McCarthy man, that's what we're paying you for.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, all right, I hear what you're saying. We'll keep

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Speaker 2: you an eye on that. By the way, we'll lye

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Speaker 2: for Thetirack dot Com studios and I did mention that

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Speaker 2: April seventh is a big day. It's a Monday, and

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Speaker 2: obviously that game is going to be the ninth of

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Speaker 2: that April seventh is the mess National Championship game. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but there's another thing happening on the seventh of April.

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Speaker 2: It's the House versus the NCAA settlement's final approval hearing,

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Speaker 2: and it's slated for that day. Okay, And I'm not

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Speaker 2: certain about this, but I'm sure you know a lot

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Speaker 2: more than I do about this. Buck. The settlements go

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Speaker 2: over for two point eight billion with a B and

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Speaker 2: back damages to athletes who could not profit from nil name, image,

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Speaker 2: and likeness before twenty twenty one. Would that be you

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Speaker 2: before twenty twenty? Are you gonna get some cash, Bucky

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Speaker 2: h Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I'm gonna get any cash, but that's

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Speaker 4: a nice sentiment. What I hope doing.

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Speaker 5: What I'm worried about is, Look, I want everyone to

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Speaker 5: about the roster management. I'm worried about how it packs

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Speaker 5: athletes going forward. Football and basketball is gonna be taken

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Speaker 5: care of.

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Speaker 4: They're going to get it.

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Speaker 5: But the sports that I'm worried about are the Olympic sports.

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Speaker 5: I'm worried about track and field, the roster sizes where

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Speaker 5: you know, you used to have unlimited roster spots, now

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Speaker 5: they've cut.

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Speaker 4: Those dramatically down.

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Speaker 5: I'm worried about baseball, which has always had issues when

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Speaker 5: it comes to rosters and scholarships and how many scholarships

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Speaker 5: can you give in those things. I'm worried about the

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Speaker 5: fallout that affects some sports like field hockey and lacrosse,

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Speaker 5: me AND's lacrosse and those things. They are legions of

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Speaker 5: athletes that are going to be impacted by this settlement

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Speaker 5: because the haves are going to take up all of

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Speaker 5: the space, and the haves are going to occupy that

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Speaker 5: and you're gonna see these cuts, these roster cuts and

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Speaker 5: these things, the elimination of the walk on program, all

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Speaker 5: of these things that are going to affect some people

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Speaker 5: who go and participate in athletics for college, for the

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Speaker 5: purity of participating beyond high school, who understand the value

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Speaker 5: of playing collegiate sports helps them immensely in their world after.

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Speaker 4: They finish being an athlete.

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Speaker 5: So I'm glad that some people are getting their money

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Speaker 5: but I'm really worried about these other participants, men and

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Speaker 5: women that are going to have their opportunities diminished because

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Speaker 5: schools are having the fun football and basketball and revenue

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Speaker 5: sharing and nil. Even though I'm saying those things need

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Speaker 5: to be rewarded, I worry about these other guys.

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Speaker 3: This is an amazing situation.

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Speaker 2: Every Division one program is going to be allowed to

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Speaker 2: offer up to get this twenty point five million dollars

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Speaker 2: next year to all athletes in their athletic department. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so schools with FBS football programs have a big problem

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Speaker 2: on the hands. Really, if they give the vast majority

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Speaker 2: of that money to the football program, as they probably will,

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Speaker 2: they're going to leave their basketball teams with fewer recruiting

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Speaker 2: non football schools, and we talked about this last week,

660
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: I remember non football schools are already plenty to take

661
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: advantage of the different position. They have an advantage. The

662
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: Big East has many of those schools in that conference

663
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: without football. To Paul Marquette Xavier, they don't have football.

664
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: That money's going to go basically to basketball, which to

665
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: me is a tremendous advantage.

666
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's a huge advantage. It's a huge

667
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 5: advantage because you can't fund everything. Football is a machine

668
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 5: unlike any other and if you want to be good

669
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 5: in football and basketball, it's gonna be hard. How do

670
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 5: you split the money? How do you split the baby?

671
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 5: It's a challenge. And it's one of those challenges that

672
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 5: you talked about Bubba Cunningham and why he gets.

673
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 4: The bonus where he's gonna earn the bonus next year. Yeah,

674
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 4: because to pull it is off.

675
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 5: Look, you gotta be you gotta have effective being counters,

676
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 5: and you got to make sure that the money goes

677
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 5: to right places. It'd be interesting to see how some

678
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 5: of this stuff plays out, you know.

679
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: And it's not only the fact that the schools without

680
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: football will have more money to play to pay for basketball.

681
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: Here's the situation right now. This is gonna be a war.

682
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what's gonna happen. Schools without football

683
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: programs are now gonna pull more of their resources into basketball, obviously,

684
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: and they're gonna be able to entice recruits away from.

685
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 3: The power conferences.

686
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: In other words, if I'm a basketball player at a

687
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: big time school that has football, and basketball, and more

688
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: of the money's going with the football than basketball. I

689
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: could look at a school that just has basketball, and

690
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: they could pay me more than I'm getting at this

691
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: football basketball school. That's gonna be the war over there.

692
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: That's gonna be the major problem. I don't know if

693
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna have an edit out there saying that you

694
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: can only spend X amount of money on football and

695
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: or basketball. I don't know how you're ever going to

696
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: control that, But I will say this, the non football

697
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: playing schools are gonna have one heck of an advantage.

698
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: Or maybe they should rearrange the conferences, which will never happen,

699
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: that conferences only with basketball remain only with basketball, and

700
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: you can have a football playing school in that conference.

701
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's so many things.

702
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 5: I mean, shoot, I don't even know who the governing

703
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 5: bodies are, right, Like we talked about the DCAA, but

704
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 5: I don't even know. Like it's such a difficult situation,

705
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 5: and because everyone is kind of going rogue and done

706
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 5: their own thing what seemingly feels like the last two years. Yeah,

707
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,479
Speaker 5: someone's gonna have to police this and get this together,

708
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 5: and someone's gonna have to kind of try and figure

709
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 5: out how to create these situations that you're referring when

710
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 5: it comes to the basketball, the basketball only schools beginning

711
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 5: to dumb they and pluck the field because they don't

712
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 5: have those financial obligations of football. And with so many

713
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 5: athletic departments when you look around the country, like regardless

714
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 5: of whether we talk about football being king, so many

715
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 5: of them are operating in the red will. Some schools

716
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 5: just decide to drop football because they can't keep up,

717
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 5: and then interest and push us closer to the superpower

718
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 5: conferences or the super conferences that we've been hearing about

719
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 5: sixty four teams playing four different things where it's just

720
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 5: football only they did with football, and then everyone else

721
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 5: is left to play basketball and some of these other sports.

722
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: You know what I worry about the HBCU schools, the

723
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: schools like Howard University. I don't know how they're gonna

724
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: do that. They are those schools that have football and basketball.

725
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: Can they do it?

726
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: They can they afford to have both? Now it's not

727
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: gonna be good.

728
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: It really, I mean.

729
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 4: Really it's yeah, it's not gonna be good. It's not

730
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 4: gonna be good.

731
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 5: Like look, HBCUs are already having a tough time with

732
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 5: the funding. The new things that are being thrown out

733
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 5: there regarding like the elimination of Department of Education and

734
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 5: some of the things that it control. Is when it

735
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 5: comes to the money, it's already going to be difficult.

736
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 5: Then when you add this in, it makes it man,

737
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 5: it's can be nearly impossible to field athletic teams.

738
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 4: These schools HBCUs.

739
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 5: Already struggling getting the minimums required to operate athletically.

740
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, this puts them behind eight ball for sure.

741
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: This is an unbelievable story. I said, coming into the

742
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: seven key politics out of it.

743
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: I haven't heard this. This is crazy.

744
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: After the West Virginia Mountaineers we left out of the

745
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament, the governor, the governor of West Virginia called

746
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: it a miscarriage of justice. Don't you think you got

747
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: something a little better and bigger to do than worry

748
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: about the basketball team in West Virginia? I mean, honestly,

749
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: I mean the state of West Virginia was launching a

750
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: formal investigation into the NCAA's men's March Madness selection committee

751
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: process after the West Virginia Mountaineers were left out of

752
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: the bracket. This is Governor Patrick Morrissey and Attorney General J. B. Mccusky.

753
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: They announced this. I mean really, I mean, come on,

754
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: keep the poems out of it.

755
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 5: No, I mean no, no, no, no, Like politics are always a

756
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 5: part of it, like that's no matter what, Like it's

757
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 5: always been a part of it, Like whenever you put

758
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 5: these things together, when you put military all of this

759
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 5: is a part of the sports landscape.

760
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 4: The people like to conveniently pick and choose.

761
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 5: When political or not. Politicians love the grand stand on

762
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 5: these things. Like he took this as an opportunity to

763
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 5: put his face in front of the camera and create

764
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 5: an issue where none exists. But that's what politicians do.

765
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 5: They can't wait to run out and do some of

766
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 5: these things, big or small, to attract attention. So he

767
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 5: got the attention that he wanted, even though it's a

768
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 5: case that is ultimately going to be dismissed if he

769
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 5: ever tries to bring.

770
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 2: No doubt open and shut, no doubt about that bucket

771
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 2: brooks Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sunny and Fox Sports Radio.

772
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: It's got the only answers he always does. So we

773
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: asked Bucky next. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports

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792
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Speaker 2: let's get it done. Bucky, what happened to the once

793
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 2: mighty basketball conference?

794
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: You're acc in the NCAA's.

795
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 4: Arrogance got the best of them. They thought that basketball.

796
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 5: Players would continue to go to that conference because for

797
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 5: so long they've nominated basketball. But people are showing following

798
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 5: the money. The SEC made a commitment to upgrade their

799
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 5: basketball team because they're willing to shell our cash and

800
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 5: that's why the the SEC is left ont.

801
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 2: It's amazing though, because we thought the SCC was a

802
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: basketball league, football league. What is it now? It was

803
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: a football league, now it's a basketball league. How did

804
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 2: it change?

805
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's everything. They put money to their actions. They

806
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 5: want to dominate every sport. It's not only basketball that

807
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 5: they committed. They've upgraded baseball. So when you look around,

808
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 5: you see all SEC teams in the top twenty five

809
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 5: in baseball. You look around in basketball. Look, if you

810
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 5: want to be good at it, you got to devote

811
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 5: the resources to it. The SEC has done that in

812
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 5: every sport.

813
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about the Crown Tournament, which will be

814
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: at the end of the month till about April whatever,

815
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: and it's sponsored by Fox Sports. The Crown Tournament's going

816
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: to give a three hundred thousand dollars Hey Day to

817
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: the winner to the winners that they're gonna split, that

818
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: the team's gonna get that, and the kids will get that. Well,

819
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 2: the players and coaches eventually bypass the kind of sounds crazy,

820
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 2: bypass the anti double A tournament for the crown because

821
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: there's cash on the line.

822
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 5: Now, I don't think you ever get to the point

823
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 5: that you bypass the NC double A tournament.

824
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 4: But it's a nice gesture.

825
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 5: I love it. I love hearing about it. But yeah,

826
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 5: I don't think you can. I don't think you were

827
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 5: in fringe upon March Madness. I think March Maddness is

828
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 5: too big of a brand.

829
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 2: Not only that, I think that is going to create

830
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: a situation where it's going to force maybe March man

831
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: is to pay these kids as a bonus.

832
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 3: Don't you think I think they all time?

833
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 4: It's only amount of time at some point, it's coming. Right.

834
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about baseball for a second. I gotta

835
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 2: ask the question because they took about Lebron the face

836
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: of the NBA. Who is the face of baseball? And

837
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: maybe do they even have one?

838
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 5: I would say Shanaytani needs to be the face, but

839
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 5: I think it goes cycles. Brice Harper have a run.

840
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 5: Some other guys have run, but right now, yeah, that's

841
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 5: me showing Ay Toney. We haven't seen people do what

842
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 5: he's been able to do.

843
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

844
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Aaron Rodgers. We mentioned him that on Friday,

845
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: he was in Pittsburgh for about six hours into the Steelers.

846
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: Are you sick of the Aaron Rodgers drama yet? I

847
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: think the NFL probably is.

848
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 5: Oh I'm so tired of it, But it's going to

849
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 5: exist because that's what we do on our side, right

850
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 5: We know that if we bring his name up, it

851
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 5: draws listeners, viewers, clicks, So we're gonna continue doing it.

852
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna ride it to the wheels fall off.

853
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 5: But it is one of the things that I am

854
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 5: annoyed that that we have so much conversation about Aaron Rodgers.

855
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.

856
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 4: Okay.

857
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: The nc Double A, and you mentioned this early on.

858
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: The n Cuba Tournament basically is a coaches tournaments for

859
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: the coaches. Could you name for me right now perhaps

860
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: the best three coaches in your mind that are coaching

861
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: college band skeootball today on any level. Does that have

862
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: to be Division one that they don't even have to

863
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: be in the tournament right now.

864
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 5: On any level. Well, I mean we talked about two

865
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 5: of them earlier. I think Rick Patino, John Carler party

866
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 5: or in that conversation. Tom Izzo certainly deserves to be

867
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 5: in that conversation. But then there are a bunch of

868
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 5: young guys. Talk about Dusty May and the job that

869
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 5: he's doing. Natos isn't young, but he's done a really

870
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 5: good job at Alabama.

871
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 4: There are a lot there are a lot of really

872
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 4: good coaches run around.

873
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 5: Pat Kelsey at Louisville is another good coach to turn

874
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 5: around that program quickly. So there are a lot of

875
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 5: good coaches, a lot of good dudes that are getting done.

876
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: No doubt about that. Okay, I'll leave you with this question.

877
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: UCLA lost yesterday at Tennessee and it wasn't pretty. Sixty

878
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: seven fifty eight was the final. Have we seen the

879
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: last of Mick Cronin on the UCLA bench? Rumors have it?

880
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: Maybe Indiana they they got to charge the job in

881
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: Indiana has taken that, but there was a rumor there.

882
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: But what about Villanova? They say he may be interested

883
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: in Villanova or they're interested in him.

884
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 4: Then maybe it isn't him. I don't know why he

885
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 4: want to leave UCLA.

886
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 5: You know, you can talk about the challenges and those things,

887
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 5: but the brand is big. He's done a really good

888
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 5: job there and even though in theory his personality doesn't

889
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 5: really job with LA, it works.

890
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 4: I think he has a nice job and a nice

891
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 4: house in LA.

892
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: There we go. All right, he's the top quarterback in

893
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: the draft. We'll talk about him next right here on Fox.

894
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: All right, did Joe really get his wish? That's coming

895
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: right up? Good money, everybody. This is Fox Sports Sunday

896
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897
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898
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Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks and Ady Ferman and we're broadcasting live

899
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904
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Speaker 2: What's going on?

905
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 4: NC?

906
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: DOUBLEA in full swing right now? Big games today, Florida, Yukon,

907
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: Duke Baylor, Arizona, Oregon, Michigan State, tom Izzo, New Mexico

908
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: today today And of course what Alabama say, Mary's Maryland, Colorado.

909
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: State, big day.

910
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: I bet you'll be watching games all day, all night today.

911
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, big games.

912
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 5: Look, man, you love when the tournament reaches this point

913
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 5: where we have Sweet sixteen on the line.

914
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 4: It's the elite of the elite, the best of the best.

915
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 5: Swearing off, I'm excited to see what Cooper Flag does

916
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 5: against Baylor Duke is Roland. They are juggernaut and just

917
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 5: want to see if they're gonna be able to finish

918
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 5: it off.

919
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I heard Steve the saga the top of the

920
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 2: hour with the Sports Update. Okay, and I'm going crazy.

921
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: I gotta run this by it because this, to me

922
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 2: is disgusting. Yukon Women one O three to thirty four

923
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: over Arkansas State. I mean, come on, really, I mean

924
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: you talk about maybe I'm crazy, You talk about sportsmanship

925
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: and respect for your spell fellow coaches. How do you

926
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: do that? How do you run up a game like that?

927
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 2: One O three to thirty four Yukon over Arkansas State? Really?

928
00:41:59,440 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 3: Come on?

929
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 5: These kids that they're fine. They can handle it like

930
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 5: they candle it. Their college athletes, they can handle it

931
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 5: like you. I mean, yeah, if you're if you're a

932
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 5: gen Ariema, you want your team playing at a high level,

933
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 5: and it doesn't matter the opponent.

934
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 4: It's about the standard that they've created. U kind is

935
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 4: a powerhouse. Uh, they are.

936
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 5: Their expectation to win national titles and they have a

937
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 5: chance to take one again this year.

938
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 4: And the only way.

939
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 5: That you get your team ready to take on the

940
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 5: challenges that lie a head is you got to get

941
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 5: them to play well against whoever they're playing. And so

942
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 5: Arkansas State just happened to be a victim. But first

943
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 5: round of the tournament, we want to execute at a

944
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 5: high level. So I applaud them. I'm sure that's what well.

945
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 3: You applaud them.

946
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: But when I see that score, that's why in USC

947
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 2: didn't do much better when they had that big score

948
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: yesterday too.

949
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 3: But I want to see you can lose now because

950
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 3: what they did. I want to see.

951
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: Because because they hammered Arkansas State.

952
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, for shame, Come on, really that means that

953
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: stop the game if you have to, really.

954
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: No, No, Like, they're fine.

955
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 5: I think young people are resilient enough to be able

956
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 5: to bounce back from these moments.

957
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 4: They'll bounced back. They're in the tournament.

958
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 5: And the difference that you're seeing between the men's tournament

959
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 5: and the women's tournament is for all of the games

960
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 5: that have been made. In women's basketball, you still have

961
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 5: the have and the have nots, And that plays out

962
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 5: the early part, the early part of the tournament. That

963
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 5: plays out where men's basketball the parody has kind of

964
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 5: leveled everything out, it hasn't quite done that yet in

965
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 5: women So you continue to see some of these lopside

966
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 5: of scores in the first couple of rounds, but once

967
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 5: we get to the sweet sixteen, that's when you start

968
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 5: seeing the really, really, really good ball.

969
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: Well so maybe that's when I'll start watching. That's when

970
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: I'll start watching, all right, you tell about the NTA tournament.

971
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: I thought about this for a little bit, not a

972
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 2: long time, just for a little bit. What other sport

973
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: can keep you on your toes interested for three weeks?

974
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 2: I mean, the NFL does a week by week. Okay,

975
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: So my logic of my ill logic, whatever you want

976
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: to call it, tells me that sports really need to

977
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: take a peek at the NFL because they're like the

978
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: Kings and the NCAA. Because in our lives, I think

979
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: people have too much to do on a daily basis,

980
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 2: and if you have a tournament that goes for three weeks,

981
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: but they only play on the weekends. People are interested

982
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 2: can and it teases you. Baseball plays every single day.

983
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: There's no interesting. That's the way. And then the NFL

984
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 2: does well because they have the fantasy football because you

985
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: could do your fantasy once a week. You can't do

986
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: fantasy baseball. No one's gonna want to do it on

987
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: a daily basis, right.

988
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 4: No, I mean, no one wants to do it on

989
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 4: a daily basis.

990
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 5: But I think we saw from this, like I heard

991
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 5: all the complaining and all that other stuff about the

992
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 5: college football playoff and these teams and SMU doesn't deserve

993
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 5: to be in there versus Penn State, and it's not right.

994
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 4: YadA, YadA, YadA YadA.

995
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 5: Well, the only way you can create the football version

996
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 5: of marsh Maddness is to have a tournament like this.

997
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 5: It has been shown that we like watching playoff games.

998
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 5: We like watching when things have stakes a tie to.

999
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: Them, Yeah, one and done, when they'll go home. We

1000
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: love that.

1001
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, we love that.

1002
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 5: So you have to create more of that and put

1003
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 5: more teams in it and sell it and market it

1004
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 5: and those things.

1005
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 4: Here's the problem that you have with football.

1006
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 5: Playoff tournaments and bowl games don't mix because you can't.

1007
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 5: You can't do things, so you're trying to stay one

1008
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 5: foot into the old system while having a new system

1009
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 5: of playoffs.

1010
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: They have playoffs at every other level, but at the top.

1011
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 5: The bowl games have created so much money and ratings

1012
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 5: and revenue and all this other stuff. But from a

1013
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 5: fans perspective, we want to see playoff games because we

1014
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 5: live or die with the emotions that are associated with

1015
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 5: when or go on home.

1016
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: Right, And that's why when baseball has those one game

1017
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 2: playoff games, everybody's got their tongues hanging out and they

1018
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: love it because it's win.

1019
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: They'll go home and.

1020
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: There's a start and a finish the regular baseball season,

1021
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: there really is. Star Yeah, they start in March, I

1022
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: end in October, but there's no starting finish. If you

1023
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: go to a Wednesday afternoon ball game, you're going there

1024
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: for the relaxation, just to kill time and have a

1025
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: couple of cold beers. That's what you do. But there's

1026
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: really no start or finish there. And they stay with

1027
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 2: the NBA, and the NBA has taken it one step

1028
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 2: further to irritate the fans.

1029
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 3: What do they do.

1030
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 2: They don't play their players, they're sitting.

1031
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: That's another situation, right, that is another situation.

1032
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 4: But speaking to.

1033
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 5: Your thing about playoffs and watch a building, what we like.

1034
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 5: That's why the playing in tournament what's so good?

1035
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 4: Right?

1036
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 5: We like looking at the play in because those are

1037
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 5: one and done, eight, nine and ten plays for the

1038
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 5: right to play.

1039
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 4: Eight to see if you get into the you know,

1040
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 4: whateverever it's their formally is.

1041
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 5: But that works for them, and it has worked for

1042
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 5: a long time. You want to continue to drive those

1043
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 5: those things. I know there's been some conversation. People have

1044
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 5: talked about the lottery and not necessarily liking the tanking,

1045
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 5: and they've talked about, well, why not take the four

1046
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 5: worst teams and have a round robin tournament to see

1047
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 5: who gets the number one seed. Now they have to

1048
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 5: play to win as opposed to play in the loose.

1049
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 5: So the four teams at the end of the year,

1050
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 5: we're gonna have a play in to see who gets

1051
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 5: the number one seed. The winner of the tournament gets

1052
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 5: number one. That I mean, that can compell them, Like

1053
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 5: when we're in the the dog days of the season

1054
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 5: and no one is paying attention, Well, that would certainly

1055
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 5: goneer some of our attention at the end of the season.

1056
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: They need to do something like that. I mean, that's

1057
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 3: real creative.

1058
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: I like that. I like that a lot because the

1059
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: worst tanking will be thrown out the wind. Though no

1060
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: one's going to tank.

1061
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 5: There's no need, right, there's no need, doesn't need to

1062
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 5: be the bottom four. But now I gotta play well

1063
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 5: enough to win it, so I can't just be in

1064
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 5: complete shutdown mode because I need to win some of

1065
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 5: these games.

1066
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 3: I love that.

1067
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 2: I love the fact that you basically did like a

1068
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 2: term paper this week. I mean, you're a coach or

1069
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 2: a scout personnel man, really, TV radio star, NFL dot

1070
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: com author, and you were talking about Shador Sanders, the

1071
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: top twenty twenty five NFL quarterback draft pick on NFL

1072
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: dot Com. And I got to ask you why, and

1073
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 2: I have an answer, and maybe I'm wrong. I'm saying

1074
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: he's going to be the number one guy because really

1075
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: and truly, there's kind of a week quarterback class coming

1076
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 2: out this year, right.

1077
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 5: I mean people will say that, but I feel like

1078
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 5: people will say that all the time. Right, I always

1079
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 5: feel like they say that the quarterback class is so

1080
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 5: weak and then last year I felt like they said

1081
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 5: some of that and then they played well because I

1082
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 5: remember all of the criticism that bo Nicks received when

1083
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 5: he was drafted twelfth overall, and now everyone loves him

1084
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 5: and we can't remember about how poorly they talked about him.

1085
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 5: Years is separate year, every years the Snowflake. We'll see

1086
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 5: how this group plays out. Shudur Sanders is in a

1087
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 5: class where you do have some guys that don't have

1088
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 5: the brand that he has, so it's him and cam

1089
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 5: Ward are.

1090
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 4: Viewed as one and two.

1091
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 5: There's been a conversation about Jackson Dart and now of

1092
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 5: late Tyler Shutt and Jalen Milroe and Calvi McCord, but

1093
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 5: those two guys have been separate in the part. And

1094
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 5: over the next two weeks we're gonna see both of

1095
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,959
Speaker 5: those guys have their Pro day. On Monday, cam Ward

1096
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 5: from Miami will have his Pro Day that'll be shown

1097
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 5: shameless plug on NFL Network.

1098
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 4: I'll be covering that, and.

1099
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 5: Then on April fourth, Shudur Sanders will have his Pro Day.

1100
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 5: And those pro days ultimately are the final exam for

1101
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 5: two of the quarterbacks that are being celebrated as QB one,

1102
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 5: QB two and whatever order.

1103
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 3: Okay, let me do this now.

1104
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: Number one, we're gonna stick with shaduor Sanders because you

1105
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: say you spent a few days with Sanders the big

1106
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: twelve pro Days this past week. That's number one, So

1107
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: we'll talk about that. But these pro to me, did

1108
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: you just set up? So quarterback comes out there with

1109
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 2: his favorite receiver, and you know you can't screw up

1110
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 2: a pro day? Right? I mean?

1111
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: Am I right about that?

1112
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 4: You can?

1113
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 5: Teddy Bridgewater, Teddy Bridgewater didn't have a great pro day.

1114
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 5: That was your Johanna Monziela and Teddy Bridgewater fell like

1115
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 5: a rock thirty seconds to the Minnesota Vikings. Part of

1116
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 5: that was due to not kind of checking off the

1117
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 5: box on the prodad. So the thing about the pro

1118
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 5: day is you just want to show what you got

1119
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 5: asenuate the positives. Don't necessarily worry about the negatives, but

1120
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 5: just a showcase.

1121
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 4: The thing is one of those things like an open

1122
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 4: book test.

1123
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 5: If I give you an open book test, I need

1124
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 5: you to ace the test. It is more concerning when

1125
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 5: you get a C or a D on an open

1126
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 5: book test where the answers are all right there. So

1127
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 5: if he takes care of business, it won't change anything.

1128
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 4: People. People will look at the film and then they'll

1129
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 4: make a decision based on that. Guys, here, I hear gotcha,

1130
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 4: you got me? All right? Cool, we got your book?

1131
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 6: Andy there?

1132
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: All right?

1133
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 5: Amy, I got you, I got you, I got you

1134
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 5: that radio moment.

1135
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm good, I got you.

1136
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 2: I don't know what happen. I had a belch over

1137
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 2: there or something. What happened. But you talk about the

1138
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 2: pro day, so that that's good. So you say it's

1139
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 2: an open book test and you got to pass it.

1140
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: You can't get to see let's talk about your standers. Now,

1141
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: why do you say is number one? What are the strengths?

1142
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: And you wrote about this, What are the strengths that

1143
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 2: you do standers that would make him number one?

1144
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 4: Number one thing? And I said this in the article.

1145
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 5: There's never been anyone more prepared to be a franchise

1146
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 5: quarterback than Shadeur Sanders.

1147
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 4: Sheer.

1148
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 5: Sanders grew up in the home of a look Hall

1149
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 5: of Fame player Deon Sanders, who has been a lightning

1150
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 5: rod of criticism. To play under the watchful lot of

1151
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 5: the world. When you have the Sanders name on your

1152
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 5: back to me is something that no one can replicate.

1153
00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 5: That dealing with that pressure, dealing with the noise outsiders

1154
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 5: either supporting or condoning how you or condemning how you play.

1155
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 5: All of those things matter what he's dealt with that right.

1156
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 5: The other part of it is going to two programs,

1157
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 5: Jackson State and Colorado, two lightly regarded programs, two programs.

1158
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 4: That were downtrodden when he got there.

1159
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 5: Immediately turned around Jackson State sixteen to zero conference record,

1160
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 5: twenty three and three overall at Jackson State, two swack titles.

1161
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 5: So you like the fact that quarterbacks win. People say

1162
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 5: quarterback wins not a step, but it is because your

1163
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 5: job is the quarterback is the.

1164
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 4: Lead your team to the winner circle.

1165
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 5: Goes to Colorado, they're one and eleven, they go four

1166
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 5: and eight, and then they finish with nine wins this season,

1167
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:40,479
Speaker 5: go to a bowl game.

1168
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 4: So he certainly is an instrumental change.

1169
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 5: People say, well, he had the best team with him

1170
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 5: in those situations yet, but he didn't have the most

1171
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 5: talented teams. Yes, yeah, Travis Hunter on the outside, he

1172
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 5: had some playmakers, but people talk about that offensive line

1173
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 5: not being up to par. Took a ton of sacks

1174
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 5: because of the offensive line played.

1175
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 4: In a pro style offense.

1176
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 5: Underpass from a former NFL head coach, a guy with

1177
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 5: ties in this league to put in a system that

1178
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 5: is very much like the systems that are routinely used

1179
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 5: in the NFL. Crushes it with that touch, timing, anticipation

1180
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 5: he throws with people to talk about, Oh, he doesn't

1181
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 5: have the biggest arm.

1182
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 4: He lacks this. He doesn't have a pop gun arm.

1183
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 5: His arm is stronger than Brock Purdy's arm, and Brock

1184
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 5: perties has success in this league. This game is not

1185
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 5: about being able to throw fast balls. This game is

1186
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 5: about painting the strike zone consistently, which is what he does.

1187
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 5: He is the classic drop back passer that has played

1188
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 5: successfully in the league for the last fifty years. That's undeniable.

1189
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 5: He is someone who understands the moment. He understands how

1190
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 5: to play well under pressure. The things where he has

1191
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 5: to work on his timing. Sometimes he holds onto the

1192
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 5: ball too long because he's big play honting. He takes

1193
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 5: sacks and he has to quicken his clock and get

1194
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 5: the ball out of his hands so he can stay

1195
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 5: on time.

1196
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 4: But when you really look at him and watch him play.

1197
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 5: He stays on schedule when it's time to stay on schedule,

1198
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 5: meaning in the game's biggest moments, he delivers time after

1199
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 5: time on time. He's not the best athlete. Okay, well,

1200
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 5: the majority of quarterbacks in the NFL are not the

1201
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 5: greatest athletes. We've gotten to this point where we now

1202
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 5: have fallen in love with athleticism. Five years ago, we

1203
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 5: didn't want athletic quarterbacks. We weren't in love with the

1204
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 5: guys that can run around. You had to be able

1205
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 5: to deal from the pocket. Sanders deals primarily from the pocket.

1206
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 5: So stylistically, his game works because that's what traditionally.

1207
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 4: Has worked in the league.

1208
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 5: Now it just comes down to who is that coach,

1209
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 5: who's the offensive coordinator, How's he going to function outside

1210
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 5: of the daddy ball structure that some will talk about

1211
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 5: in Colorado. To me, I think it's a no brainer.

1212
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 5: I think he's going to be a star in this league.

1213
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 5: I think in the right situation, he's gonna have a

1214
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 5: lot of success. And I would expect us to revisit

1215
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 5: the conversation in a year or two and say, man,

1216
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 5: we're really wrong on shud Der Sanders, because he did

1217
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 5: have all those things that we look for in a

1218
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 5: franchise quarterback.

1219
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 2: Let me go back to the weaknesses, because everybody has

1220
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 2: a weakness, no matter what business you are. And then

1221
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 2: what you and the weakness you ways say he lacks

1222
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 2: arm strength or arm talent and athleticism, Okay, limited athleticism,

1223
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: He still say he's gonna be the number one pickt

1224
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: he probably will be. The point I want to throw

1225
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 2: out there is that how many quarterbacks really and truly

1226
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: have athleticism. The only one that comes to mind to

1227
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 2: me is Lamar Jackson. Matthew Stafford doesn't have athleticism. You know,

1228
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 2: back in the day, I probably could beat him in

1229
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: a fifty yard running Really. I mean I don't think

1230
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford's a great I mean he's a great quarterback.

1231
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: He's got great arm strength. I don't think he's great athleticism.

1232
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: Am I correct on that?

1233
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 4: Well?

1234
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 5: I think it was different, right because I think what

1235
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 5: people are talking about when it comes to athleticism is

1236
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 5: people that have become fascinated with the Lamar Jackson slash

1237
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 5: Josh Allen athleticism that you're seeing, meaning, can they execute

1238
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 5: quarterback design runs, can they make impromptu plays and scramble

1239
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 5: outside of the structure of the offense.

1240
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes does it. We see all of these other things.

1241
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 5: However, athleticism comes in many forms, because there's athleticism that

1242
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 5: you must have within the pocket. Drew Reis which should

1243
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 5: be considered a great athlete. He was a junior level

1244
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 5: tennis player and he could move around within the pocket. Sure,

1245
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 5: Dure Sanders can operate within the pocket. He can move

1246
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 5: around within the pocket. Is he going to scramble and

1247
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 5: go make plays and have twenty five and thirty yard runs.

1248
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 5: That's not really his jam. You know, he can move

1249
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 5: and he'll escape when he needs to. But no, he's

1250
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 5: not an A plus athlete. I would say his athleticism

1251
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 5: with rate right around C plus B minus. You know,

1252
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 5: it's good enough to survive in the pocket. He's not

1253
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 5: a statue in the pocket. He can move around enough

1254
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 5: to succeed. You talk about Matthew Stafford and those things,

1255
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 5: He's not in that category because he doesn't have the

1256
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,479
Speaker 5: arm talent. But yeah, Matthew Stafford has survived in this league.

1257
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins has survived in this league by purty surviving

1258
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 5: in the league, and when you don't have one superpower,

1259
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 5: then you must be great with something else.

1260
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 4: You must have another superpower that can compensate for it.

1261
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 5: For me, I would say that's his processing speed, his

1262
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 5: diagnostic ability, his high football IQ when it comes to

1263
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 5: managing the game. That allows you to play faster, so

1264
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 5: you don't have to rely on your physical gifts.

1265
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 4: You rely on your mental acumen to be able to succeed.

1266
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: All right, So you mentioned all those factors, and I

1267
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: agree with you. He's going to probably be the number

1268
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:38,959
Speaker 2: one quarterback pick.

1269
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 4: But you say, I don't know if he's gonna be

1270
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 4: number one.

1271
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 2: I think he will. I think he will, Okay, dependent

1272
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: upon the actual team that thinks he might be the

1273
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 2: best fit. And you mentioned a couple of teams over here.

1274
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: Number one, he'll be gone. Is he the LA Rams?

1275
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 4: They picked?

1276
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 2: Number twenty six, he'll be gone by then. So he's

1277
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: not going to the Rams, and he's not going to

1278
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 2: the New Orleans Saints. Number nine, he'll be gone by

1279
00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 2: number nine. Agreed.

1280
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 4: Hold on, No, I don't know. I don't know. Here's

1281
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 4: why I say this.

1282
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 5: Here's why I say this, right, because we hear all

1283
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 5: of the commotion about his personality and how he feels

1284
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 5: or whatever.

1285
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 4: But here's the thing.

1286
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 5: When we look at quarterback Alley, right, quarterback Alley is

1287
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 5: first three picks, Tennessee, Cleveland, New York. They all need quarterbacks,

1288
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 5: but maybe they don't view him. He's not their type

1289
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 5: of hype.

1290
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 4: Six. Las Vegas Raiders when and got Geno Smith, so

1291
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 4: maybe they don't go there.

1292
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 5: Jets at seven they went and got Justin Fields, so

1293
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 5: maybe they don't go there.

1294
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 4: Now you're at the Saints.

1295
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 5: Do the Saints really need one? They got Derek Carr

1296
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 5: Kellen Moore. Does you want to sign up for that?

1297
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 5: If he gets outside the top ten, there is a

1298
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 5: long list of teams that don't need a quarterback before

1299
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 5: another team pops up, So we can talk about Pittsburgh

1300
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 5: at twenty one. Then you got the Rams down there.

1301
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 5: So that's why I say like, if he falls out the.

1302
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 4: Top ten, it could be a long drop for Sanders.

1303
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 5: And if we talk about ideal fits things, the La

1304
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 5: Rams would be absolutely perfect for.

1305
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 3: Him because of Sean McVay.

1306
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 5: Sean McVay, the city doesn't mind his personality because you

1307
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 5: got to remember La Man, it's about stars and marketability

1308
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 5: and those things.

1309
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 4: It's Hollywood.

1310
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 5: His personality, how his brash persona that works in La.

1311
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 3: So it works in New York.

1312
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: He'd be great for the Giants.

1313
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 5: It works in there. Like but the autditional old school thing.

1314
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 5: But yeah, like he can handle that. So to me, look,

1315
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 5: I think he certainly can go there. But I'm not

1316
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 5: just assuming that he's gonna be done by top ten,

1317
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 5: even though I grate him as a top ten talent.

1318
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 4: Everybody may not see it like that.

1319
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: But you did think that he'd be a good fit

1320
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 2: with Cleveland the number two pickover roll with the Browns

1321
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: because of Kevin Stefanski, And tell me why.

1322
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 4: The reason why? And no one is really talking about this.

1323
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 5: Kevin Stefanski was a quarterback coach for the Minnesota Vikings

1324
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 5: when Pat Sherman was the offensive coordinator. I would just

1325
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 5: have to believe that Pat Sherman, the offensive coordinator of

1326
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 5: the Colorado Buffalos, has certainly had some conversations with Kevin

1327
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 5: Stefanski on what Srdur Sanders is as a quarterback, as

1328
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 5: a leader, how he processes, what system works for him,

1329
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 5: what things in the playbook, because I'm sure they share

1330
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 5: similar playbooks, what things in the playbook would work for

1331
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 5: Sanders That's why to me it would work. And then

1332
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 5: when you think about Kevin Stefanski's success and the type

1333
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 5: of quarterbacks yet Kirk Cousins in Minnesota, you think about

1334
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 5: the best success that he's had in Cleveland, Baker Mayfield,

1335
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 5: who might be comparable athletically to Shrdur Sanders, but through

1336
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 5: in the pocket, Joe Flacco, Jameis Winston, when you've seen

1337
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 5: that offense really take off as those traditional pocket passers

1338
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 5: that have done it, Shardur Sanders is more like them

1339
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 5: than like Deshaun Watson, which is why I believe it

1340
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 5: will work in Cleveland.

1341
01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, I hope he doesn't go Cleveland, and I'll

1342
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 2: tell you why. I mean, for his sake, he should

1343
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: because it'd be more money. He'd be a number two pick.

1344
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 2: But he'll be in the same division with the Cincinnati

1345
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 2: Bengals and put some heat on the Bengals. But then again,

1346
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: on the other side of the coin, maybe I wouldn't

1347
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: mind them going to Cleveland because I'll see him play twice.

1348
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 3: So I don't know, but I.

1349
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: Think there's a good chance he goes to the Giants,

1350
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 2: and the Giants I'd love to see him play in

1351
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 2: New York. He'd be king in New York. He really would.

1352
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 2: He might be better served than New York for his career

1353
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 2: than in LA because there's too much competition in LA

1354
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: with the Dodgers, the Lakers, the Clippers, everybody else. I

1355
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 2: think in New York with the down trodden Jets, and

1356
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 2: what he could do to help the Giants be somewhat revervent.

1357
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 2: Come on, I mean, the Giants have been down and

1358
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 2: out so long, especially what they did last year with

1359
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: Sakwan Barkley. I think he'd be great in New York

1360
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 2: with the Giants.

1361
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Speaker 5: So the only thing that concerns me about New York

1362
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 5: would be Brian da Ball and maybe Joe Shane being

1363
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 5: on the hot seat. So if it doesn't go well

1364
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 5: right away, say they remove those guys from the equation

1365
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 5: and now you have a new coaching staff, new front office,

1366
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 5: everyone coming in.

1367
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 4: That's a lot of change for a young quarterback.

1368
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 5: That would be the cern, and I guess you could

1369
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 5: have the same concern in Cleveland. The only time that

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Speaker 5: you wouldn't have that concern would be the Tennessee Titans,

1371
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 5: not because of Brian Callahan's status, but because of the

1372
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 5: new general manager comes in you got a president football lop,

1373
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:29,479
Speaker 5: Chad Brinker, who's there.

1374
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 4: Those guys are going to be there.

1375
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 5: So if they make the commitment to make him the pick,

1376
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 5: he's going to be there and it's going to work.

1377
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say this because I don't assume, because everyone

1378
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 5: is assumed that cam Ward is going to the Tennessee Titans.

1379
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 4: That's been the ward of the street forever and ever.

1380
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 4: But I'll say this.

1381
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 5: Brian Callahan in January compares Shader Sanders to Joe Burrow.

1382
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 5: He talked about Joe Burrow's ability to throw with touch,

1383
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 5: timing and anticipation and how those guys and he included

1384
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:03,439
Speaker 5: Shoulder because it was a direct comparison. Those guys win

1385
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 5: because of their ability to throw guys open and to anticipate.

1386
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 5: And there's a place in this league for those kind

1387
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 5: of players to excel at a high level in the

1388
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 5: right offense. And that quote and that thing has been dismissed.

1389
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 5: But coaches are not typically savvy guys that set up

1390
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 5: smoke screens. I believe him when he says that. When

1391
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 5: Callahan says that, I take him at his word. And

1392
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 5: we've seen the level of success that Joe Burrows had.

1393
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 5: People don't want to make that comparison. But when you

1394
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 5: look at how Joe Burrow plays and how Shadur plays,

1395
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 5: they're more alike than different. That is why I still

1396
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 5: have that thought in my head. Le Brian Callahan certainly

1397
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,919
Speaker 5: saw something in Sheder Sanders that made him say that

1398
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 5: and make that direct comparison.

1399
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Speaker 2: on YouTube. Now you mentioned Shadeer Sanders, Shudeer Sanders, and

1425
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 2: of course Joe Burrow. Let's talk about Joe Burrow, because

1426
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 2: I want to know if Joe Burrow really out what

1427
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 2: he wanted. The sonning of Jamar Chase and t Higgins.

1428
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 2: Just the other day, it looks like Chase reportedly he's

1429
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 2: gonna get a four year deal like one hundred and

1430
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 2: sixty one million. Higgins gets a four year deal fo

1431
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteen million, a lot of money he

1432
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 2: needed to the scene going into that team's salary cap

1433
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: just for two receivers, no matter how good these guys are.

1434
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 2: And I'm going to say this that generally, and maybe

1435
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: I'm all face here, and I love the fact that

1436
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 2: the Bengals stepped up and did this. Maybe he was

1437
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 2: pressure from Burrow or pressure from the fan base, I

1438
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 2: don't know. But franchises that build too heavy on our

1439
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 2: fence at the expense of the other positions don't usually

1440
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 2: win Super Bowls.

1441
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.

1442
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Speaker 5: You agree, I disagree, and I disagree because to me,

1443
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 5: this is the blueprint that the Indianapolis coast use so

1444
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 5: well during the paid Manning era, where they had a

1445
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 5: franchise quarterback and elite quarterback in Peyton Manning, they made

1446
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 5: sure that they took care of the marquee positions on

1447
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 5: our offense to give him what he needs. If you

1448
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 5: go back and think about the coast, they always had

1449
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 5: Edrin James, they had Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, they had

1450
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 5: a tie end in Dallas Clark. They would invest in

1451
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 5: first round offensive tackles and the offense was loaded. And

1452
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 5: their point was, we want to make sure that we

1453
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 5: load up on offense so we can put points on

1454
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 5: the board. Then on defense, we only invest in two positions,

1455
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,479
Speaker 5: well really one position that's pass rushers, and so Robert

1456
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 5: Mathis and Dwight Frenny were big investments.

1457
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 4: They paid them.

1458
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 5: Everybody else was a draft and developed product on that

1459
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 5: side of the ball. So it required you to use

1460
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 5: a simplistic system Tony Dungee's Tampa two to be able

1461
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 5: to get young guys on the field to support an

1462
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 5: offense that always gave you the lead, which allowed the

1463
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 5: defense to play against teams that were chasing points, which

1464
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 5: is why the pass rushers were critical. Now for the Bengals,

1465
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 5: you look at it, and I believe success least breadcrumbs

1466
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 5: and clues follow it. So their defensive coordinator is Al Goldon.

1467
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 5: Al Golden comes from where Notre Dame. Notre Dame is

1468
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 5: at the collegiate level, So what.

1469
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Speaker 4: Does that enable him to do.

1470
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Speaker 5: It enables them to relate to younger player so I

1471
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 5: can put them in a position schematically to play faster.

1472
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 5: So none of these things were just coincidental. It was

1473
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 5: all part of a bigger plan. How are we going

1474
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 5: to build a Super Bowl champion by paying these two

1475
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 5: guys on the perimeter with Joe Burrow, Well, we can

1476
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 5: go younger on defense. We got to coordinate who understands

1477
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 5: how to get young guys ready to play. That's why

1478
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 5: to me, it works out in Cincinnati.

1479
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I understand that the logic of the Bengals right now,

1480
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 2: they're not going to beat you defensively, They're gonna win

1481
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 2: games like thirty five thirty one.

1482
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 3: They're just outscoring. They'll shoot you in shootouts.

1483
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I mean that's certainly a big part of

1484
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 5: the process that they want.

1485
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 4: They want to win by putting points on the board.

1486
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 5: It puts pressure now on Zach Taylor and that offense.

1487
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 5: Every week, Man, the magic numbers thirty. We need to

1488
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 5: see thirty on the board. If you do not get

1489
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 5: thirty on the board, it's an offensive failure. That's the

1490
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 5: kind of pressure that you put on Joe Burrow, T Higgins,

1491
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 5: Jamar Chase. You guys can't have a week off. There

1492
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 5: can't be a bad win on offense. Defensively, we're gonna

1493
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 5: have some struggles, but the money's on offense. That is

1494
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 5: why if you're a Bengals fan, every week you're looking

1495
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 5: at the box score. Did Joe Burrow have over three

1496
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 5: hundred yards? Did Jamar Chase and T Higgins have an

1497
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:14,479
Speaker 5: impact on the passing game?

1498
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 4: An impact on the game, And.

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01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 5: Are the Bengals winning because of their offense, not necessarily

1500
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:19,799
Speaker 5: their defense.

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01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 4: That's how you have to check off the boxes.

1502
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying.

1503
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 2: Okay, Now the media is claiming, and maybe they're right

1504
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 2: in this. I don't know that the reason why Jamar

1505
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 2: Chase and T Higgins was signed is because that Joe

1506
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 2: Burrow forced the hands of the Bengals management to do that.

1507
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 2: Bengals manager, they were in a tough spot. Obviously, Joe

1508
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 2: Burrow was in a lot of public campaigning really to

1509
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 2: pressure the ownership to do that, and they did it.

1510
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 2: But I don't think. I don't think Joe Burrow really

1511
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 2: he said what he had to say, and obviously he

1512
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 2: wanted these guys there because they're a vital part of

1513
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 2: his offense. But I don't think the Bengals did it

1514
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 2: because of Joe Burrow and what Joe Burrow did. Am

1515
01:08:58,280 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 2: I right on that or wrong?

1516
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 4: I think Joe Burr had a lot of influence. Really,

1517
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 4: he had a lot of influence franchise quarterback.

1518
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 5: Franchise quarterback typically gets what he wants, and he was

1519
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 5: very adamant about what he wanted. And I commend him

1520
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 5: because you heard Jamar Chase and Higgins both say, if

1521
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 5: he doesn't advocate.

1522
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 4: For us like that, I don't know if these deals

1523
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 4: get done.

1524
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 5: He advocated for him, talked about the importance of having

1525
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 5: both of them there. They paid both of them handsomely,

1526
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 5: and that doesn't happen if Joe Burrow doesn't push the

1527
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 5: envelope a little bit and ride for his guys. To me,

1528
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 5: that's great leadership. Moreover, that's great connectivity between Joe Burrow

1529
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 5: and wide receiver one and two or wide receiver one

1530
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 5: A and one B, whatever you want to call them.

1531
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 4: It's significant. Though.

1532
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 2: Well, look, I would say this, What separates good teams

1533
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 2: and great teams in my mind is that those great

1534
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 2: teams could beat you in so many different ways. The

1535
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 2: only way Bengals they're gonna beat other teams next year

1536
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 2: is by scoring a lot of points. And maybe I'm

1537
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 2: way off base on that, but hey, you look at

1538
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles. They could beat you in so many

1539
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 2: different ways. That's just the way they are. The Philadelphia Eagles.

1540
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 2: They're very talented both defensively and offensively. And look on

1541
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the Cincinnati Bengals. Look, they had

1542
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 2: defensive star Troy Hendrickson last year, but the Bengals didn't

1543
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 2: allow the seventh most points a game and the third

1544
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 2: highest red zone touchdown rate last year, and that was

1545
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 2: with Troy Hendrickson playing like I hate. They would compare

1546
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 2: it though, playing like Reggie White, and they couldn't win.

1547
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 2: They had three guys that were like All stars last

1548
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 2: year way before you know, Hendrickson, Higgins who was injured

1549
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 2: a lot, Jamar Chase and Borrow and they still didn't

1550
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:42,480
Speaker 2: make the playoffs.

1551
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they were coming all that game busses down

1552
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 5: the end, you know, and we can talk about it. Defensively,

1553
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 5: they weren't up to snuff, but they made some moves

1554
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 5: in recent years where the guys they drafted didn't pan out.

1555
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 5: You know, they were going to replace all the guys

1556
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 5: in the back end, the secondary, right, von Bel and

1557
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 5: Jesse Bates, and they won.

1558
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 3: That was a big loss. Draft Jesse Bates is a

1559
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 3: big loss.

1560
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 5: Drafted some young guys didn't work out, wanted to move

1561
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 5: on at the corner.

1562
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 4: Drafted some guys haven't worked out.

1563
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 5: The pressure now is not only on defensive coordinator, but

1564
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 5: it's on the front office scouting staff. They got to

1565
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 5: make sure they get the right people to replace me

1566
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 5: if we're gonna be a draft and developed team, Well

1567
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:25,759
Speaker 5: we got a draft will and then the coaching staff

1568
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 5: got to develop.

1569
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 3: Well, no doubt about that.

1570
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 4: Okay.

1571
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 2: So now we talk about the NFL. Is that time

1572
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 2: of the year where they have the rule changes, and

1573
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: one of the rules right now, they're kind of pushing us.

1574
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 2: I guess it was thought about the Green Bay Packers.

1575
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 2: They're going after the tush push, and the proposal was

1576
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 2: this way to prohibit an offensive player from pushing a

1577
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 2: teammate who was lined up directly behind the snapper and

1578
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 2: receives a snap immediately at the snap. Okay, and the

1579
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 2: Packers say the reason they want to change because.

1580
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 3: Player safety ball. I don't believe it.

1581
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 2: They're saying that because they can't get it done and

1582
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 2: a lot of teams can't stop it.

1583
01:11:58,160 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 3: I hate I would.

1584
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 2: Hate to see the tush push basically go by the boards.

1585
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 3: I hope it doesn't happen.

1586
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 2: And look that the Eagles have a down pad pretty good,

1587
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 2: but they got those big brutes on the offensive line

1588
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 2: to get it done. Three hundred plus guys that I

1589
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 2: was six foot eight. I mean, that's why the touch

1590
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: push works in Philadelphia and other teams can't do it.

1591
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they do have those big guys. They

1592
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 5: are uniquely qualified to be able to do it.

1593
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 4: And it's.

1594
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 5: Look, man, I hate this when Green Bay does it.

1595
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 5: I hate when people always look for the easy way out.

1596
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 5: You can't always go runn into the officials and those things.

1597
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 5: And to me, that's what they're doing. They're running to

1598
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 5: the officials trying to find a solution as opposed to man,

1599
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 5: you gotta play better, you gotta figure it out. You

1600
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 5: got to figure out way to stop it. Of watching

1601
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 5: commanders stop it a few times, I've seen other teams

1602
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 5: stop it a few times.

1603
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 4: You got to figure out a way to stop it.

1604
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 2: Right, And you're close to the NFL. You work in

1605
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 2: the NFL. Do you see it happen. Do you see

1606
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 2: the toush push going away?

1607
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,719
Speaker 4: I don't, you know, I don't look.

1608
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 5: I think other teams, if everyone could do it, they

1609
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 5: would do it.

1610
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 4: The Philadelphia Eagles just do it better than anybody else.

1611
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 4: And no one else does it.

1612
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 5: We've seen other teams try to do their variations of it.

1613
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 5: No one else has mastered the art of the quarterbacks

1614
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 5: neat like the Philadelphia Eagles. To me, they deserve to

1615
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 5: have that advantage because they created that advantage through their

1616
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 5: coaching and development and those things.

1617
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 2: And you don't like it, stop it, Yeah, exactly right.

1618
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 2: What about the defensive holding and illegal contact penalties? Now?

1619
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 3: As it stands?

1620
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 2: Right now, five yards in an automatic first down or

1621
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 2: reward to the offense when defensive holding or illegal contact

1622
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 2: is called. The Detroit Lions want to change that. What's

1623
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:49,879
Speaker 2: the reason why competitive equality and equity? Current penalties enforcement

1624
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 2: is too punitive for the defense? I mean, what explain

1625
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 2: that way to me?

1626
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, like, here's the thing that's frustrating to me.

1627
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 5: Right, So, how fen have you watched the game and

1628
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 5: then you see a team just throw the ball up

1629
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 5: and they get a penalty, and so it's an automatic

1630
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 5: first down way down the field and changes the impact

1631
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 5: of the game. I think pass interference, defensive holding, illegal contact,

1632
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 5: all of those things, like you're just giving away first downs.

1633
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 5: And so I think there's a way to make it

1634
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 5: different because then everyone says, well, if you only make

1635
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 5: it a fifteen yard penalty, you can get the hugging

1636
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 5: and mugging that you see in college.

1637
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 4: Well, I look at college games. I don't see those

1638
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 4: guys committing egregious pass interference penalties.

1639
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 5: You know, I mean, like there's a way to do it,

1640
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 5: but you have taken all of the advantages away from

1641
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 5: the defense. You've just tilted the playing field to the

1642
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 5: offensive players. They have everything, they initiate contact, they get it,

1643
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,560
Speaker 5: particularly on the outside with wide receivers and the physicality

1644
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 5: that they play with. You just make it really really

1645
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 5: difficult to defend. And I know it's a league where

1646
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 5: we won't scoring in those things, but you got to

1647
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 5: give the defense something.

1648
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 4: Every rule that.

1649
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 5: That has been implemented has always been in favor of

1650
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 5: the offense. Yeah.

1651
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 2: One points to.

1652
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 4: Player ball every now and yeah, just just just a

1653
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 4: little ball.

1654
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're exactly right. He's Bucky Brooks and Ady Firman.

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Speaker 2: now you got two choices, yay or ay? And you

1669
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Speaker 2: know what they're freaking next her nay coming right up.

1670
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 2: He is Bucky Brooks, I mean firm, and this is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. And the best part, the best part

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Speaker 2: of yay, your name is Stevie Wonder. He happens to

1673
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 2: come on every time we have your nay well life

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01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 2: on the tairaq dot com studios, and it's that time

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01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: yay onnay and our executive producer Patty Patty, you got

1676
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Speaker 2: it all. Let's get it done. Okay, let's begin rack

1677
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 2: those brains, gentlemen. These stories need an answer.

1678
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 4: I think we need a ruling on this.

1679
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 1: Yay or nay.

1680
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,919
Speaker 6: That's right, gentlemen, in his time for yay or nay.

1681
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 6: So I say, let's play on this fabulous Sunday. All right,

1682
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 6: I'm kind of done with the other puns here, but

1683
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 6: you get the gist of it. It's yeah, your nay guys.

1684
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 2: Let's start us off.

1685
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 6: Yea yay, all right, So first one here for you guys,

1686
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 6: So eliminate the push push, yay or nay. Andy Furman,

1687
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 6: you go first, A big time nay.

1688
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 3: I love it.

1689
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 2: And you know why those teams at the Green Bay

1690
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 2: Packers and others out there that want.

1691
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 3: To see it go away, just stop it. Stop it.

1692
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: If you can't stop it, don't say you want it

1693
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 2: to go away. It's a nay, nay, nay.

1694
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 4: Look I'm with him, it's a nay.

1695
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 5: Like we need to continue and figure out a way

1696
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 5: to stop it, figure out a way to defend it.

1697
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 2: So I just want to let you know one thing

1698
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 2: before we continue. I'm a little down. I'm a little down, tried.

1699
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 2: I'm depressed. Do you know Bucky Brooks in the Fox

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01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Hosts and in the Fox Sports Radio Bracket Challenge,

1701
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 2: I'm in the basement. I'm at the last place. However,

1702
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 2: close to Dan, I'm very close to Dan Patrick. He's real.

1703
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 2: He's just a shade above me. But I'm last right now.

1704
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 2: So today I'm hoping that Duke loses the Baylor because

1705
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 2: I don't knock everybody out.

1706
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 4: Who did you have? Who are you picking? Yeah?

1707
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 2: I picked I think Grand Valley Stay, I picked him,

1708
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 2: I picked I picked all the underdoor. I just looked

1709
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 2: for upsets all the way through. I did. Oh my god,

1710
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 2: he really is I picked Drake, Dreg, Grand Valley, you

1711
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 2: name it. I think I'm pickles them too. I mean

1712
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 2: I think I picked them all. I picked Yale, I

1713
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 2: just like Yale. I don't know why, and.

1714
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 3: Why do you do this? Csel, I don't know.

1715
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 6: I'm with a nay on this one. All right, well

1716
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 6: speak well, speaking of college, we're gonna go to football

1717
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 6: in this one. Oh, actually it's a little bit about

1718
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 6: So NCAA football and basketball coaches should know should no

1719
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,560
Speaker 6: longer have buyout clauses?

1720
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 1: Yay or nay? Bucky Brooks, Oh.

1721
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 5: They absolutely should. No, they should have buyout clauses. You

1722
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 5: got to tie them to it. If if players are

1723
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 5: getting criticized for moving around, we got to have the

1724
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 5: bioclause to make it challenging for coaches to move to

1725
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 5: move around.

1726
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 4: So, yes, bioclauses are necessary.

1727
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 2: I don't think they're necessary because I think of what

1728
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 2: it does. It holds up schools. I want to get

1729
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 2: rid of a coach because they don't have the money

1730
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 2: to buy them out. That's the problem. Look, I have

1731
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 2: no problem with a coach jumping from school to school.

1732
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 2: West Virginia, we got their coach left. They want to

1733
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 2: anything on I get it. It's okay you want to

1734
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 2: better yourself to make more money. But to lock a school,

1735
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 2: to hold a school ransom or against the wall like that,

1736
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 2: it's not right.

1737
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 3: I don't think it's right.

1738
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 4: All right, guys, we're.

1739
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 6: Gonna pivot to baseball for this one and this one

1740
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 6: near and dear to my heart. The LA Dodgers open

1741
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 6: their season in Tokyo. And if you lived anywhere anywhere,

1742
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 6: you know, in the US, well you never really kind

1743
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 6: of knew because it was in It was great for Japan,

1744
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 6: but not so much here except for maybe the people

1745
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 6: in LA. I E me over here in La here.

1746
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, your nay, Andy Furman.

1747
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of a shame that Major League

1748
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 2: Baseball for their opening day that couldn't even do it

1749
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 2: on our own turf.

1750
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 3: To how to go to Japan?

1751
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,560
Speaker 2: To do them because they knew they couldn't compete with

1752
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament that can't compete the World Series with

1753
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 2: the NFL.

1754
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 3: It's amazing. It's sad, it really is sad.

1755
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 4: Yay, No, I'm okay with it.

1756
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 5: Like you're trying to grow to the international presidents of

1757
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 5: the game. The Times are the best team. A lot

1758
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 5: of the stars are international. Take those stars so they can.

1759
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 4: Even expand it global reach even more. Some with it.

1760
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 2: Oh they like that? All right, We're gonna tell you

1761
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 2: if your team was a winner, that and so much

1762
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 2: more where I'm Fox Sports Sunday coming up right here next.

1763
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 3: Oh was your team a winner?

1764
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 1: Oh?

1765
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 2: By the way, we're not talking basketball here. We'll get

1766
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 2: that in just about a minute. Good morning, everybody. This

1767
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 2: is Andy Furman. He's Bucky Brooks. We have Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Bucky, We're rocking and rolling right now, and I wanted

1776
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 2: to throw something idea. If I can not throw, I've

1777
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 2: actually talked to you about this. I would never throw

1778
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 2: anything to you, Bucky, I really would never. We talked

1779
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 2: about some of the changes in the NFL. We talked

1780
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 2: about the Tush push, but this is a big one.

1781
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,799
Speaker 2: This is a good one. Changes in the playoff seating,

1782
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 2: and this is a proposed the Detroit Lions another proposal

1783
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 2: each conferences of four division winners would still make the postseason. However,

1784
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 2: rather than the four teams getting the top four seeds,

1785
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 2: the seedings will be determined by which of the seven

1786
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 2: playoff teams had the best record. Now, the Vikings, if

1787
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 2: you remember last year, had a fourteen to three record,

1788
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 2: but they were given the nfceeds number five seed after

1789
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 2: the Lions won the NFC North with a fifteen to

1790
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 2: two record. Under the proposed seeding format, Minnesota would have

1791
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 2: been the NFL's number three seed.

1792
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 3: I like that. I think that's good.

1793
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 2: I really do. I think it's a good deal. I

1794
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 2: want to see the twos per stay, but honestly, I'd

1795
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 2: like to see this one come in.

1796
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 5: No, I think you have to reward division champs. Otherwise,

1797
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 5: why like, why have division champions? Why not just lump

1798
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 5: in the top, lump in everyone in one big group,

1799
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 5: you know, one to sixteen, and then just play it out.

1800
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 5: If we're not going to have an incentive for winning

1801
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 5: the division, then why have divisions? So to me, the

1802
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 5: incentive to win the division is to have an opportunity

1803
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 5: to have a home game. If you don't win your division,

1804
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 5: you shouldn't have a home game. So there has to

1805
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 5: be levels to it. And I know sometimes it doesn't

1806
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 5: work out the way that you want to work out.

1807
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 5: You can have a great record not win the division,

1808
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 5: but oh well, life is hard, like so I don't

1809
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 5: like this rule.

1810
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 2: Well, but you have a better record than a division winner.

1811
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 2: Are you're not getting any sort of reward whatsoever.

1812
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 5: Well, you're in the playoffs. Your reward is being able

1813
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 5: to play in the playoffs. Like, that's it. But the

1814
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 5: division champion should get the right to have a home

1815
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 5: game because you're the champ. The other guys a wildcard team.

1816
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 5: Wildcard team shouldn't have home games. You're a wildcard. You

1817
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 5: have to earn it on the tough road. If you

1818
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 5: won your division, you would get that. So regardless of

1819
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 5: what you know. Detroit won fifteen sixteen games in Minnesota.

1820
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 5: Find a way to be Detroit. That's just how it

1821
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 5: has to go. And if you're good enough to.

1822
01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 4: Win, then you'll be able to find a way to

1823
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:00,799
Speaker 4: win on the rope.

1824
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 2: You know, we talk about these rule changes. The NFL

1825
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 2: is going to vote on the proposed changes for the

1826
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 2: rules at the annual meeting, and that's gonna be like

1827
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 2: on April second, I believe. So how does that work?

1828
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 2: I mean, if in fact Detroit wants this changed? I mean,

1829
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 2: do they get to vote. Every team has a vote,

1830
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 2: so obviously Detroit's going to vote for this, so they

1831
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 2: would to need like a seventy five percent vote. How

1832
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 2: does it work?

1833
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 5: I mean, I think you have to get to I

1834
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 5: think you have to get twenty four votes to pass the.

1835
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 3: Twenty four to thirty two, which is seventy five percent.

1836
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think you have to get twenty four

1837
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 5: votes to pass. So you have to have everyone on

1838
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 5: board with the changes, you know.

1839
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 4: You know.

1840
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 5: The funny thing to me is ownership has a lot

1841
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 5: to say. And I find it funny that ownership has

1842
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 5: a lot to say because ownership doesn't.

1843
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 4: Play so what do they know about the game? But

1844
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 4: it is what it is.

1845
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 3: But you're right about that. But but who should get

1846
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 3: to vote?

1847
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 4: Then?

1848
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,719
Speaker 2: If it's not ownership, who who do the vote?

1849
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 4: No?

1850
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 5: Like can we do general managers or the people that

1851
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 5: are a little closer tied to ball than the owners?

1852
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 4: Like those guys don't know anything.

1853
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 5: They canna vote on the touch first, they can vote

1854
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 5: on they vote on all these rules that they don't

1855
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 5: know anything really about. It's it's just a weird. It's

1856
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 5: just a weird thing for me. Yeah, it's a weird

1857
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 5: thing that they are the ones.

1858
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 2: That well, they have the keystead of castle. That's what

1859
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 2: it is. They have the keystad of castle. The owners,

1860
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:20,640
Speaker 2: that's what they do.

1861
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 4: All right.

1862
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 2: NCAA basketball taking center stage today again? Whatsoever? And I

1863
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 2: had the question out there and I was hoping somebody

1864
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 2: would at least, you know, put it on X give

1865
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 2: us a holler about that. How popular would the NCAA

1866
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 2: basketball tournament be without brackets? Okay, well, with get this,

1867
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 2: how about the lower to about schedule changes? And with

1868
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 2: like the NFL with the rule changes, how about the

1869
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 2: lower seedings hosting the games not having games at neutral sites?

1870
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 2: The lower seeds host the games in the Anti DOUAA

1871
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 2: tournament never happen. I don't think because you take a

1872
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 2: place like Duke, they only hold about seventy five hundred

1873
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 2: and their arena. They want to have any these big

1874
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 2: time arenas to get some bucks and big crowds.

1875
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, it's money, it's all money.

1876
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 5: That wouldn't be fair if you say the lower seeds

1877
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:11,480
Speaker 5: hosting a Yeah, no, that's home that's home field advantage.

1878
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 4: Why we get the lesser team.

1879
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:17,600
Speaker 2: Well with the division championship, you know, sorry, get the

1880
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 2: record win you know.

1881
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're the lower seed, if you're the team

1882
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 4: you mean you mean the number one seed would get

1883
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 4: it right, lower up? Okay, yeah, okay, okay, Florida is

1884
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 4: playing No, I get that. Okay, yeah yeah Florida. Well yeah, yeah, no, no,

1885
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 4: I'm good.

1886
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're if you're the team with if you're

1887
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 5: the team that has the better seeding, yeah you should.

1888
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 4: Get the home game, not the whatever. Okay, I get

1889
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 4: what you're saying.

1890
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 5: I was confused because I was thinking lower seed, like

1891
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 5: the fourteen seed would get the thing over the three seed.

1892
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 4: I was like, no, we shouldn't do that.

1893
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 2: But now like today Illinois playing Kentucky. Illinois is six

1894
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 2: seat Kentucky's a three seed game would be in Lexington, Okay.

1895
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 2: And I've always said that I try to beat somewhat

1896
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 2: of an app kid and a fan.

1897
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 3: For the fans, what do I mean by that?

1898
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 2: You're paying big money for season tickets, you follow the team,

1899
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,759
Speaker 2: Why should you make I saw those fans yesterday in Milwaukee.

1900
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 2: Why should Saint John's fans have to travel to Milwaukee

1901
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 2: to see their team play when they pay big bucks

1902
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 2: to watch them play at home all year long? And

1903
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 2: then you're penalized. Really if you want to see him

1904
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 2: play and follow them to have to go on the road.

1905
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 2: I don't think it's fair.

1906
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, yeah, it don't never happen. Though, No,

1907
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 5: it won't happen because it's too much money. You get

1908
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 5: too much money afore, right, and because we can get

1909
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 5: everybody there. Also, think about all the different travel right,

1910
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 5: because if we do those things, well, now I win.

1911
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 5: Now one team has to travel to me as opposed

1912
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 5: to being in a neutral site where we had the

1913
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:48,839
Speaker 5: round robin for the whole weekend.

1914
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, logistically it makes more sense.

1915
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 2: Right I mean? But still in all like Kentucky's playing

1916
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 2: in Illinois, and obviously a lot of blue in the

1917
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,679
Speaker 2: stands today, But after that Kentucky game, the fans empty out.

1918
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 2: That's the way I used to be like that for

1919
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 2: the SEC Tournament. When the SEC Tournament was at Atlanta,

1920
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 2: you know, eighty percent of the crowd was Kentucky feet.

1921
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 2: But they travel, they travel well, they really do. I

1922
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 2: don't think any other team in America travels as good

1923
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 2: as Kentucky. I really don't in any sport. It's just

1924
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:21,719
Speaker 2: the way they are. Great fans.

1925
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they travel.

1926
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 2: I got a personal question to ask you, okay, and

1927
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 2: I know you're right. He'd give me the honest answer.

1928
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 2: I could handle it. I got broad shoulders. I won't cry,

1929
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 2: I promise I will not do that. But if you

1930
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 2: had a perfect round in the brackets, and obviously if

1931
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 2: you didn't do that well in the brackets, which I

1932
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:45,759
Speaker 2: did not. Right now, I'm in last place all alone.

1933
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick's ahead of me that he's got twenty eight points.

1934
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 2: I got twenty five points. I'm buried in the cellar. Okay,

1935
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 2: So if you're buried in the cellar, does that make

1936
01:27:55,439 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 2: you stupid? Unlucky? If you win it. Are you smart?

1937
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 2: What does that mean that now I'm last? I am

1938
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,759
Speaker 2: last in the practice. If everybody in Fox Sports Radio,

1939
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 2: I have the distinction to be least at least. You know,

1940
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 2: people know two people, the winner and the loser. Right,

1941
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 2: So I'm stop it. I don't want to hear that. Okay,

1942
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 2: I can handle it, okay, because I'm throwing out there

1943
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 2: like I bet grand Canyon, I bet Yale, I bet

1944
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 2: all these schools McNeice I had. But still, what does

1945
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 2: that make me? Just unlucky or a fool or a stupid.

1946
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 4: And like how.

1947
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:40,600
Speaker 5: Just like like just I just don't like some of

1948
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 5: the upsets that you may have.

1949
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 2: It's close, the points are real close. Because I got

1950
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 2: twenty five points. Dan Patrick's got twenty eight, so that

1951
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 2: makes me feel pretty good.

1952
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 3: Really. But I'll tell you what I was. I just

1953
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 3: I tell you why I bet I had Akron.

1954
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 2: I took Akron because I'm betting with my heart and

1955
01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 2: I on my head, right, I took Akron. I think

1956
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 2: I took Vanderbilt.

1957
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 4: So I can't call you. I can't call you unlucky,

1958
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 4: so we.

1959
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 3: Have to have you call me stupid. It's okay, I

1960
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 3: can't call.

1961
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 5: You unlucky, because unlucky would be you took a bunch

1962
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 5: of top season they just played back. But you're just

1963
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:22,719
Speaker 5: taking these random long shots. Yes, yes, I mean yeah,

1964
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,759
Speaker 5: but like the upsets typically come in what five and twelve?

1965
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 4: We know that's when it traditionally happens, six and eleven?

1966
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 4: He saw. But you can't pick.

1967
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 5: I mean, well, I guess you can't pick two and fifteen,

1968
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 5: but the odds are not.

1969
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 3: Against I did pick.

1970
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 2: I picked Xavier to be a little Illinois. You know,

1971
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 2: I just can I tell you. I just I didn't

1972
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 2: do well. All right, it happens, okay, So but you

1973
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 2: didn't tell me. I mean, I'm I stupid. You could

1974
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 2: I could handle it.

1975
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 4: Stupid. I mean, I can't call you stupid. I'm gonna

1976
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 4: do like Rick Patino.

1977
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 5: I'll never throw one of my players under the bus.

1978
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 5: But if I eliminate, if I eminate unlucky, you're left

1979
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 5: with the other word. Oh so thanks, So so I

1980
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 5: just have to have everyone take the context clues and

1981
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 5: figure it out like Rick Patino did.

1982
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 4: He didn't say, but he said without saying. So that's

1983
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 4: all I'm gonna say.

1984
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1985
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 1: I get it.

1986
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 3: I'm reading between the lines.

1987
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 2: It's okay, let's talk about actual winners and losers. And

1988
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,839
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the NCAA tournament right now, thank you. Okay.

1989
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 2: I'll talk at the NFL free agency winners and losers, okay,

1990
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 2: And I'm going to throw it a couple of winners.

1991
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 2: You tell me at least if I'm right on this,

1992
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 2: if I'm stupid on this one, I think that, really

1993
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:39,799
Speaker 2: and truly, the Minnesota Vikings are right there. Minnesota Vikings

1994
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 2: right there. They spent almost two hundred and fifty million

1995
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 2: dollars in free agency, and a couple of things that

1996
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 2: they did that made them look real good and put

1997
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 2: them right near the top.

1998
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 4: To me.

1999
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 2: They signed defensive tackle Jonathan Allen, okay, and they re

2000
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 2: signed running back Aaron Jones for two years. I think

2001
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 2: that right now, I think the Vikings were right there.

2002
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 2: If not that one of the best teams, one of

2003
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 2: the better teams in free agency. I consider them a winner,

2004
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:02,759
Speaker 2: all right.

2005
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 4: Agreed, Yeah, I'm with it. They made some nice moves.

2006
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 4: They upgraded the defense to help Brian Flores, So I

2007
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 4: like that.

2008
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna give you another winner, and again, you

2009
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 2: know I can handle it. If you say, I'm out

2010
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 2: of my mind. I say the Pittsburgh Steelers with wide

2011
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 2: receive a DK Metcalf, they're a winner right now. They

2012
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 2: got to get a solid quarterback to get in the football,

2013
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 2: But right now, two time Pro Bowl Wide receive a

2014
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 2: DK Metcalf is a Pittsburgh Steeler. In my mind, that

2015
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 2: makes the Steelers winners in the free agency go around.

2016
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 5: I can't say, I can't say, getta go thumbs down.

2017
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:43,759
Speaker 4: It is a gladiated big thumbs down.

2018
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 5: DK Mtcalf is great, But if you have no one

2019
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 5: that can get them the ball, what's the point. You

2020
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 5: just got a track athlete out there. Thirty million dollars

2021
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 5: for DK Metcalf. It's a lot of money. So then

2022
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 5: you have two big body playmakers on the outside who

2023
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 5: can be emotional male contents in George Pickens and DK Metcalf.

2024
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 5: That's a lot for the new quarterback to manage. And

2025
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 5: if Aaron Rodgers coming in there with his own stuff,

2026
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 5: combustible environment you've created.

2027
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 3: Really okay, I'm gonna throw out a team right now.

2028
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say whether they're a winner or a loser,

2029
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 2: and I we'll discuss it after the fact. I'm gonna

2030
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 2: give you the team. It's gonna be the Houston Texas. Okay.

2031
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,680
Speaker 2: And I think you can make a case that the

2032
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 2: quarterback CJ. Strouds offensive line got worse and it was

2033
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,720
Speaker 2: a problem. Last year they traded five time Pro Bowl

2034
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 2: left tackle Laramie Tunsil. Okay, he was, like I think,

2035
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 2: according to Pro Football focused the fourth best pass blocking tackle.

2036
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:46,679
Speaker 2: All right. So I would have to say if hearing

2037
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 2: that and seeing that, I would have to put the

2038
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 2: Houston Texas under the loser bracket, the loser bracket free agency,

2039
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 2: all right.

2040
01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 4: I can't put them in the loser bracket.

2041
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 5: This is why declearing the decks for the big extension

2042
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 5: they're going to eventually have to give c J. Stroud

2043
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 5: after the season, because I think Stroud is probably.

2044
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 4: Eligible to begin those conversations after this third year.

2045
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 5: I think you want to kind of start clearing the

2046
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 5: decks to make sure you have enough money to do it.

2047
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 5: Also with Laramie Tussle, for all the things you talked

2048
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 5: about PFF rating him as what fourth best or whatever,

2049
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:26,640
Speaker 5: best offensive tackle. Yeah, I think he also led the

2050
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 5: league in penalties. I think he had either fourteen or

2051
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 5: eighteen penalties holding he did not have.

2052
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 4: His greatest year. An't want to mention that. I mean,

2053
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 4: you didn't want to mention that. You want to conveniently

2054
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 4: leave out.

2055
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Yes, I'm allowed. Right, It's kind of like

2056
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 2: poetic justice. Okay, But they also traded away to their

2057
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 2: first round pick, offensive god Kenyan Green. I think I

2058
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 2: said that the negative.

2059
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 4: I mean he hadn't played well. I mean he hadn't

2060
01:33:58,240 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 4: played well.

2061
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 5: You don't play well, you're subject to get up out

2062
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:03,639
Speaker 5: of here. That's part of the deal. It's a lifetime agreement.

2063
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 5: I think they've actually done a really good job of

2064
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 5: doing I wouldn't give them an A plus grade or whatever,

2065
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 5: but I understand the logic behind the moves, and we'll

2066
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 5: see how it adds up. It all depends on how

2067
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 5: well they play. That's ultimately what it comes down to.

2068
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:22,639
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you another team and I'll see what

2069
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 2: your discussion is on this one. Let's talk about the

2070
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys, and to me, the Cowboys right now just

2071
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:32,639
Speaker 2: a standing and quicksand in mud. They're afraid to make

2072
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 2: a big move in free agency, which they've done nothing.

2073
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 2: But they did kind of restructure contracts with Dak Prescott

2074
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 2: and cde Lamb.

2075
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 3: Big whoop.

2076
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 2: They didn't do anything. They didn't do anything of agency.

2077
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 2: They are to me a big l. Take the day

2078
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:48,919
Speaker 2: off the hat and put an L there. They're losers

2079
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 2: in free agency.

2080
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, nothing great, having moved the needle at all.

2081
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 5: Continue to try it out the same team. Don't know

2082
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:03,600
Speaker 5: how talented that is that they currently have. Yeah, I

2083
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 5: don't know. I don't know how they got better.

2084
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 4: I don't We won't know it after the draft. Yeah,

2085
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 4: we won't know it. After the draft.

2086
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 5: We can talk about maybe the young guys will developed,

2087
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 5: but until we see them, we don't know. So yeah,

2088
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 5: I'm with you. They don't get any no bonus points

2089
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:22,759
Speaker 5: over here.

2090
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, here we go. Let's talk about the

2091
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 2: LA Rams wide receiver Davonte Adams. Okay, he did not

2092
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 2: make the Pro Bowl last year with the Las Vegas Raiders.

2093
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 2: Now he's with the Rams, and I think that right

2094
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 2: now you have to give the Rams a little bit

2095
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 2: of a star, a little bit of a plus. I

2096
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 2: consider it was a win move that Devonte Adams goes

2097
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 2: to the La Rams, although we'll see what happens. Look,

2098
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 2: he had a problem because he was with Aaron Rodgers

2099
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 2: who basically didn't do anything. I think there's a good

2100
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 2: situation here with him on the Rams. I give the

2101
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 2: Rams a plus. I give them a winner in this

2102
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 2: free agency situation.

2103
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:07,879
Speaker 4: You give him a plus.

2104
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 5: Yes, If I can't give him a plus and I

2105
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 5: won't give him a minus, what would that be?

2106
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 4: What's a neutral? That would be a neutral? I don't look.

2107
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 5: Devanta Adams is a declining player right now. Like Davanta

2108
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 5: Adams has been a great player for his career. We

2109
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 5: can talk about whether he has gold jacket status in

2110
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 5: those things. He's a declining player and he doesn't have

2111
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 5: the same kinds of traits that he exhibited when he

2112
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 5: was demand in Green Bay. He's still very productive, he's

2113
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 5: still reliable, and some would say maybe an upgrade over

2114
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 5: Cooper Cup just because he's available. But on the field, look,

2115
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:57,439
Speaker 5: he's more He's more role player than superstar right now.

2116
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 5: Meaning I wouldn't change depecting whether this offense pookin the

2117
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 5: coup should be one then DeVante Adams. They can't go

2118
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:07,520
Speaker 5: the other way?

2119
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 4: Yeah? Can I go the other way? Over thirty years old? Speed?

2120
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 5: Isn't their explosiveness of separation is not what it was.

2121
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 4: He's not the same player.

2122
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:22,719
Speaker 5: Maybe I'm wrong for calling it out, but yeah, that's

2123
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 5: I don't see the same player that keeps you up

2124
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 5: at night.

2125
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,759
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I want to talk to you about

2126
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 2: running backs because I thought that with the emergence of

2127
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley and you could throw in Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs,

2128
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:41,680
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard, all these guys. Not many free agents on

2129
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:43,680
Speaker 2: the mark for running backs, but I thought like the

2130
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 2: price tag of free of running backs would increase because

2131
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 2: of the because of the success.

2132
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 3: And the valuability.

2133
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 2: I've used that word after such a word, the valuability

2134
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 2: of these running backs, what Saquon did in Philadelphia and

2135
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:00,720
Speaker 2: what Derek did as well. So I think that there's

2136
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 2: a possibility the running back position, which they claimed to

2137
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:06,680
Speaker 2: be dead several years ago, I think it's alive and

2138
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 2: somewhat well. Vikings we mentioned they re signed Aaron Jones

2139
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:13,800
Speaker 2: two years for twenty MILI with thirteen guaranteed, not a

2140
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 2: lot of money. So the running back position, to me

2141
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 2: is still a question mark in the minds of many

2142
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 2: people in the National Football League. The charge A signed

2143
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 2: A G. Harris one year five point two mil. I mean,

2144
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 2: what's the deal. The running back position still is not

2145
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 2: as valued as it once was, and the moneies that

2146
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:36,719
Speaker 2: have been thrown out there is nothing. Cowboys signs Javonte

2147
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 2: Williams three million for a year. Come on, I mean

2148
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 2: that's I hate to run people's money around like that,

2149
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 2: but it's peanuts, it really is.

2150
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 4: It's the talent.

2151
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 5: Like noh, just because Derrick Henry and Sakuon Barkley or

2152
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 5: whatever have great years, they're also elite running backs and

2153
01:38:56,360 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 5: they've been elite. The guys that you mentioned, no disks,

2154
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 5: no knock, they're not elite running backs, and they got

2155
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 5: paid accordingly for an elite runner. Yeah, you still crack

2156
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 5: it open, you know, Sakawon bark you got big money.

2157
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 5: Derrick Henry, two time NFL rushing Champ, big money, Josh

2158
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 5: Jacob former NFL rushing champ, big money.

2159
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:24,680
Speaker 4: You got to ask some accolades to go on to

2160
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 4: the money. That's what we're seeing.

2161
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 5: And the reflection in the running back position would never

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Speaker 5: be seen in free agency.

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01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 4: It would be seen in the draft. Let's see how.

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Speaker 5: Many first round running backs come off the board. Let's

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Speaker 5: see if Aston genty gets his just due? Omarion Hampton?

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01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 5: Does he get his just due? What do they think

2167
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 5: about the Ohio State kids? Traveon Henderson and crunch On Jukins.

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01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:53,799
Speaker 5: Those guys, that's where the evaluation will really be tested,

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01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 5: because if we're being honest, Genty and Hampton are no

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01:39:58,040 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 5: brainers when it comes to first round picks.

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01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 2: For Let's talk about Genti for a second. That's a

2172
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:04,959
Speaker 2: guy who played at Boise State. Would people will personnel

2173
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 2: people in scouts be hesitant to look at him in

2174
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Speaker 2: a different light simply because he played at Boise he

2175
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 2: stayed and didn't play against top notch competition, which I

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01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 2: hate to say that. I mean he rolled, he ran

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01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 2: over the competition he played against, but he was not

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01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 2: playing in the Big twelve or sec.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 5: I think with running backs, you've seen that you don't

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01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 5: have to come from the biggest conference to have the impact.

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01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 4: But you will take a look at how you perform

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01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:33,160
Speaker 4: versus Penn State. You will take a look.

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01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 5: At the knowledge or the tread that's left on the

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01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 5: tires because he had a heavy workload the last two

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01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 5: years of boys.

2187
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:41,680
Speaker 4: Can't he sustain it? Can't he prepare it?

2188
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:43,599
Speaker 5: How can he take his game to the next level.

2189
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 5: All those things will be in the conversation when it

2190
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:52,760
Speaker 5: comes to genty great start, star, quickness, great balance, physicality, toughness.

2191
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 4: Burst, all the things that you look for.

2192
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:57,800
Speaker 5: He is in elite RB one day steps onto the

2193
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:01,320
Speaker 5: field right offense, which to me is any offense, gap

2194
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 5: schemes on scheme. He's friendly. Uh with all of those.

2195
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:08,479
Speaker 5: It's just a matter of how how soon can.

2196
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:10,880
Speaker 4: We take it. If I'm the Las Vegas Raiders, he's there.

2197
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:11,719
Speaker 4: He should be there.

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01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 5: Man, we walked the card up because we've now given

2199
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:18,720
Speaker 5: Geno Smith a franchise running back to build around. We

2200
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 5: can come back and get another pass catchup.

2201
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:21,599
Speaker 4: But we got brock Bowers.

2202
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 5: I now have a young nucleus of playmakers that are.

2203
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 4: Gonna be around for a minute.

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01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 2: You know.

2205
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:29,679
Speaker 3: Now you're scare him because you've got brock Bowers.

2206
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 2: Do you know Smith? And they get that running back

2207
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 2: from Boise, They're they're they're they're cooking. Then they're in business.

2208
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

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01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, that's that's that's that's how we would approach it.

2210
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:41,720
Speaker 5: Because when Pete Carroll's been at his best, it's because.

2211
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:45,799
Speaker 4: Of the running game. Uh, he can do the committee situation.

2212
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 5: But he had it best when he was giving it

2213
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 5: to one workhorse runner. That's Marshawn Lynch over and over

2214
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 5: and over again. They ran it down your throat and

2215
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 5: you couldn't stop him. They played with young quarterbacks and

2216
01:41:58,360 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 5: they were able to get it done.

2217
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 2: It really is last but not least. We talked about

2218
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 2: Laramie Laramie Tunsel going to Washington right now. I got

2219
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:10,479
Speaker 2: to give a plus to a quarter about Jayden Daniels committed.

2220
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 2: They're a team to reckon with right now because they

2221
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 2: got Deebo Samuel Okay, and I got it for like

2222
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 2: a for nothing for a fifth round pick really, so

2223
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:24,360
Speaker 2: he's gonna go alongside Terry McLaurin. And that guy was tough.

2224
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:25,280
Speaker 3: So you got two.

2225
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:27,439
Speaker 2: It's so great when you have two receivers like you know,

2226
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 2: since he's got Chase and Higgins because you can't double

2227
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 2: team one. That's the key right there. And I think

2228
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 2: that Washington right now. I mean, I'm not saying they're

2229
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 2: going to the super Bowl, but they're they're a tough

2230
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 2: well they could it could be a tough.

2231
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:44,640
Speaker 4: Tough you're saying it, go ahead and see it. Just

2232
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 4: say it. With your chef, so we can they.

2233
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 2: Could very well be in the super Bowl next year.

2234
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:50,440
Speaker 2: Very well, I would not be surprised.

2235
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 5: Okay, So now this is when we put the disclaimer

2236
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:57,559
Speaker 5: that the opinions and thoughts of Andy, especially his own,

2237
01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 5: you should know that he finished last in the march, madness,

2238
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 5: brackets and all of those.

2239
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 4: Things, all of those things should be a part of it.

2240
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 4: That should be a part of the legal leaese.

2241
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:09,880
Speaker 2: I didn't finish last. I'm in last, but I didn't

2242
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 2: finish there yet. I mean I may, I may, I

2243
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:15,600
Speaker 2: may improve after today. That may change a little bit.

2244
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 2: We'll see, it may change.

2245
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 4: So so one of your upsets are going to end

2246
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:21,679
Speaker 4: up in the final the final four.

2247
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 2: Uh well, I pick Houston to win it all.

2248
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:29,679
Speaker 4: So okay, So that's so Houston is just saving grace.

2249
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 5: So last so last night you're you're biting your nails

2250
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:35,679
Speaker 5: waiting a little bit when they were fading fast.

2251
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 2: Well, when Saint John's lost that that bounced me because

2252
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 2: at Saint John's the final four too, So it's not

2253
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 2: good and it's.

2254
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 4: Not a good luck. And you're not you're not climbing

2255
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:47,720
Speaker 4: out the cellar. You're not climbing out.

2256
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 5: The good thing is, I know it Fox Like, once

2257
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:53,760
Speaker 5: we get to the the sweet sixteen or the final four,

2258
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:54,640
Speaker 5: they'll give you a.

2259
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:56,760
Speaker 4: Chance to do a new bracket. So maybe you have

2260
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:58,680
Speaker 4: a chance to do a new bracket, and maybe in

2261
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:00,559
Speaker 4: the makeup bracket you're fair better.

2262
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, thank you, all right, you know one

2263
01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:06,280
Speaker 2: lest let me just run this by. I see a

2264
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 2: team losing a player and getting the same player back,

2265
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:12,720
Speaker 2: Samaji Perron. Okay, they're running back. The Bengals get him now,

2266
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 2: they get him back. Obviously they need a running back.

2267
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 2: They need a guy who could run the football, you know,

2268
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 2: not catch the ball out of their backfield, but run

2269
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:21,720
Speaker 2: the football. And he was pretty good. They let him go,

2270
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 2: he was a free agent, and then he comes back again.

2271
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 2: So now he got him for two years for three

2272
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 2: mil or three point six mil. I mean to me,

2273
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 2: I don't think I would do that, although you know

2274
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 2: he was good here in Cincinnati, but I think it

2275
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 2: shows everybody you made a mistake by letting him go.

2276
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 4: Right, No, a different time, different circumstances.

2277
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 5: You also don't know what kind of money he was

2278
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 5: asking for back then you tell me he signs what

2279
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 5: two year three million dollars or yeah, whatever, like he's

2280
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 5: just a yeah, he's just a tick above the veteran minimum.

2281
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 4: It also tells me that.

2282
01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 5: Maybe they view him as a great guy in the

2283
01:44:57,320 --> 01:45:00,720
Speaker 5: locker room. You're gonna bring in a you running back

2284
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 5: to do it because obviously, look, they missed Joe Mixing.

2285
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:06,160
Speaker 5: They'll never admit it, they missed Joe Mixing. What Joe

2286
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 5: Mixing gave the textans they certainly.

2287
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 4: Couldn't needed at some point they didn't get a.

2288
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 5: Young running back, So then you got an old head

2289
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 5: in the locker room who can help the young guy

2290
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 5: acclimate to the league, learn what it's like to be

2291
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 5: a pro, all of those things I like to move.

2292
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Speaker 2: We talk about winners and losers with the free agency

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Speaker 2: with the football teams in the National Football League. I

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Speaker 2: got a winner. Who's an agent? And I gotta find

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Speaker 2: out who this guy's agent is. All right, I'm talking

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Speaker 2: about Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 3: Did you hear this story? Buck about Daniel Jones? All Right?

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Speaker 2: Last year was the fourth time and the last five

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Speaker 2: years he started each of his team's first ten games

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Speaker 2: with the Giants, and he's had fewer than ten touchdown passes.

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Speaker 2: That is something all other NFL quarterbacks have done four

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01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 2: times in the last five years. He's also gone fifty

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01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 2: eight consecutive starts get this, without throwing three or more

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Speaker 2: touchdowns in a game, which is the longest streak in

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Speaker 2: the last thirty years. All Right, Now, despite all that,

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01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:50,599
Speaker 2: despite all that, he signed a deal with the Indianapolis Colts.

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01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 2: For thirteen point one mili fully guaranteed for the Indianapolis Colts. Okay,

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01:47:56,800 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 2: this guy's not worth thirteen bucks, let alone thirteen million

2344
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 2: dollars and the Colts sign him. Tell me we all

2345
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 2: thoughts when you heard about that deal. I want to

2346
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 2: see who is agent. The agent's a genius. How did

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01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 2: they squeeze thirteen million dollars out of the coach for him?

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01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, thirteen million dollars is barking basement deal.

2349
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 5: It's almost a split between QB one QB two money.

2350
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 5: It's kind of the the hybrid version of high end

2351
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 5: backup low end starter money. The reason they were able

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01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 5: to secure that deal is because they wanted legitimate competition

2353
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 5: for Anthony Richardson. In fact, I would say that this

2354
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 5: deal signals that they want to hand the ball to

2355
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones. If it's close, the ball is going to

2356
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones.

2357
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 4: He is someone who help a team win a playoff game.

2358
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 4: He has played well at times when he stays within himself.

2359
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 5: Kevin O'Connell did a really good job of watching him

2360
01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:57,240
Speaker 5: over the course of the season when he came over

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01:48:57,280 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 5: to Minnesota, and he was able to probably relay some

2362
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:02,840
Speaker 5: of the things that he saw to Shane Stikeen and

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01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 5: that staff. And this is a team that is desperate

2364
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 5: for a franchise quarterback. It's unlikely they'll be able to

2365
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 5: get one in the draft, so they're going to have to.

2366
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 4: Make it happen on the cheap.

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01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:17,839
Speaker 5: And Daniel Jones, even at thirteen million dollars is relatively

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01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 5: cheap for QB one, which is wanted me to move.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you use the term desperate, and I gotta

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01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:25,040
Speaker 2: believe they are desperate. But you know what, I may

2371
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 2: end up eating my words. And look at what Sam Donald.

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01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:28,800
Speaker 2: I mean, they thought he was washed up, they thought

2373
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 2: he was through in New York, and he came out

2374
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:33,400
Speaker 2: to Superstar really like last year. So Sam Donald got

2375
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:35,800
Speaker 2: it done. Maybe Daniel Jones a new environment, a new

2376
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 2: coaching staff, a new place, new scenery. Maybe maybe maybe

2377
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:42,679
Speaker 2: he does. Maybe he comes out there and does some good.

2378
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:43,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2379
01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 3: I mean, I just never thought much of him.

2380
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:47,799
Speaker 2: Did you think much of him going to the NFL?

2381
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:49,960
Speaker 2: Did you think he was gonna make it in the NFL?

2382
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 4: Danny Dimes.

2383
01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 5: Look, I thought he'd be solid. I didn't see him

2384
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 5: as a top ten down. But it doesn't matter if

2385
01:49:57,160 --> 01:49:59,560
Speaker 5: he's the first round quarterback. He can go anywhere in

2386
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 5: the first I saw that in New York. He did

2387
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 5: some some decent things.

2388
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 4: He was solid and serviceable.

2389
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 5: The thing that got out of pocket when they made

2390
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:12,680
Speaker 5: a decision to pay him, but they wouldn't pay. That's

2391
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:15,960
Speaker 5: when you had issues because everyone could look at the

2392
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 5: team and yeah, everyone could look at the team and say,

2393
01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 5: a Saquon Barkley is the driving force of the offense,

2394
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:22,639
Speaker 5: not Daniel Jones. Why are you willing to pay him?

2395
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:25,120
Speaker 5: But you won't pay the running back. That was the

2396
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:27,439
Speaker 5: bigger issue, And that's when you kind of faded on

2397
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,759
Speaker 5: the just because they didn't do the right thing based

2398
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 5: on how the talent should have played out it should

2399
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 5: have been.

2400
01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:39,320
Speaker 2: I mean, besides, they didn't have much of an offensive

2401
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 2: line and didn't have much of a receiving court at

2402
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 2: the time, so it wasn't much of a team. It

2403
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 2: really wasn't.

2404
01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean, but the team got to the playoffs. Now,

2405
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 5: I mean they weren't much of a team. They still

2406
01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 5: got to the playoffs, and he didn't play well when

2407
01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:56,680
Speaker 5: they lost. Like, he has to play well in the

2408
01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:58,479
Speaker 5: bigger moments, and he hasn't done that.

2409
01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 2: Doubt about that. They did beat the Vikings two years ago.

2410
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 5: I remember, yeah, early, yeah, I mean they got they

2411
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:06,639
Speaker 5: got to win and all that stuff. But it's falling

2412
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:10,000
Speaker 5: apart since then and last year. Let you know what

2413
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 5: it looks like without them. I would say that they

2414
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 5: need to make sure they have them them.

2415
01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:17,840
Speaker 4: In place all right.

2416
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 2: By the way, Well, life for the Tirack dot com studios,

2417
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 2: And I wanted to throw this out for you and

2418
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:25,680
Speaker 2: anybody else. It's about card collecting because I read a

2419
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:28,599
Speaker 2: story the other day, maybe crazy. Does anybody still collect

2420
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:30,200
Speaker 2: baseball cards with cards in general?

2421
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 3: Did you do that as a kid? Baseball cards?

2422
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:35,280
Speaker 4: Did? Yes? Did you really loved it? I thought it

2423
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:35,840
Speaker 4: was great.

2424
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:39,160
Speaker 2: I mean the tops with the chewing gum and stuff

2425
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:39,679
Speaker 2: and everything.

2426
01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:43,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, all them had all the baseball cards following them.

2427
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 4: Love reading the stats on the back.

2428
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 5: It's such a different time like now, I mean, we

2429
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:49,360
Speaker 5: get all that access, but remember back then, you didn't.

2430
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:51,599
Speaker 5: You didn't get a chance to see your heroes all

2431
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 5: the time. You only got a chance to kind of

2432
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:56,920
Speaker 5: see them. But Joe gariol Is Saturday Baseball, like that's

2433
01:51:57,000 --> 01:51:59,639
Speaker 5: that's kind of how I remember it. So those cards

2434
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:02,519
Speaker 5: kept close to the game and being a stats guy

2435
01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 5: seeing the stats on the back of the car and

2436
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:07,360
Speaker 5: all that other stuff that was that was fun, you

2437
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:07,600
Speaker 5: know what.

2438
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 2: I was a big time baseball card collector and I

2439
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 2: still have some of them at home, still have some

2440
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:17,880
Speaker 2: buried away here down my basement. But I don't think

2441
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 2: kids aren't doing it today. And more than that, you know,

2442
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:24,000
Speaker 2: I think maybe too expensive. I mean, I don't know

2443
01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:25,960
Speaker 2: how much it was back then. Maybe twenty five cents

2444
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:28,280
Speaker 2: for a pack, I don't remember. But now it's got

2445
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 2: to be close to a buck, buck and a half,

2446
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:33,160
Speaker 2: maybe two, I don't know. I don't even see him.

2447
01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:35,679
Speaker 2: I don't even see them in stores anymore. I really don't.

2448
01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 4: No, Normally you have to get the whole kit and

2449
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:45,200
Speaker 4: you get the hold the whole deal. But it's it's it's.

2450
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:47,840
Speaker 5: Great that when you see people do it. But yeah,

2451
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 5: it's amazing people still collecting them. How much money people

2452
01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:55,439
Speaker 5: will pay for the elite cards.

2453
01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 4: Right.

2454
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:59,280
Speaker 2: And I brought this up though, because there was a

2455
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:02,800
Speaker 2: card featuring the Pittsburgh Pirates pitcher pulls schemes and an

2456
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 2: autograph major League Baseball debut patch. This sold this card

2457
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 2: featuring the picture and the patch sold for one point

2458
01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 2: one million dollars.

2459
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 3: It's amazing. An eleven year old.

2460
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 2: Boy originally acquired the card in a packed and a

2461
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:23,800
Speaker 2: baseball package this past Christmas. He's gonna get nine hundred

2462
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:26,679
Speaker 2: and twenty five thousand dollars from the sale. It's amazing.

2463
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:29,719
Speaker 2: That's more than the eight hundred and seventy five thousand

2464
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 2: dollars salary that the pirates are paying schemes in twenty

2465
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:36,640
Speaker 2: twenty five. They think about that the kid got more

2466
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 2: money for the card and it's his card, then the

2467
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 2: picture is actually getting paid for this year. Something's not

2468
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 2: jelling over if something's wrong, okay, and also fanatics collect

2469
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 2: proceeds from the card will be donated. This is beautiful, really, Tody,

2470
01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:55,040
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Wildfire and Relief Fund. That's a beautiful thing.

2471
01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:57,040
Speaker 2: But I don't understand how the kid can get more

2472
01:53:57,120 --> 01:53:59,760
Speaker 2: money than they're actually paying the picture. And you know,

2473
01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:02,840
Speaker 2: but nil money. Don't you think like the picture should

2474
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 2: get something. It's his card, his picture, and the kids

2475
01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:08,720
Speaker 2: getting more money than he's his salary is this year

2476
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:09,840
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense.

2477
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 4: No, it doesn't make sense. But that's it's crazy. Nice, nice, nice,

2478
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:18,519
Speaker 4: nice little investment there right there on the card.

2479
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,600
Speaker 2: That's something nine hundred and twenty five thousand for a

2480
01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:25,080
Speaker 2: baseball card. Unbelievable. All right, he's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Firman.

2481
01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Buttsradio. Now now

2482
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 2: we have a real reason to point why the blame

2483
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:38,800
Speaker 2: game is freaking next. All right, the blame game right

2484
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:41,760
Speaker 2: around the bend. He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Fermer. We

2485
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:44,840
Speaker 2: have Fox Sports Sunday. Oh, Foxbotsradio. We're live for the

2486
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 2: tiraq dot com studios. And by the way, at the

2487
01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:50,080
Speaker 2: top of the hour, nine am easton, which is about

2488
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:54,080
Speaker 2: twelve minutes away. Right now, countdown when my guy's Brian No,

2489
01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:58,040
Speaker 2: Bill Krackenberger and Jeff Schwartz comes up at nine am

2490
01:54:58,120 --> 01:54:59,960
Speaker 2: easton right here on Foxbots Radio.

2491
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 3: Right now, it's time for the blame game.

2492
01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:04,320
Speaker 4: With me.

2493
01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 7: It's all your fault. It's your fault, your fault. Maybe

2494
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:16,800
Speaker 7: it's everyone's fault. She's a liar, that's why there's the

2495
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 7: blame game. Let's figure out who to blame.

2496
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:22,520
Speaker 3: He's a liar, that's you, Patty.

2497
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 2: You're a liar.

2498
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:24,120
Speaker 3: You're a liar.

2499
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 2: Let's call, let's get it done here instead a blame.

2500
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 6: You know what, Andy, I blame you for being last

2501
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:32,520
Speaker 6: place in You're in the Bragged Challenge.

2502
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 3: Let it go and you let it go? Please?

2503
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:37,520
Speaker 4: Moving on?

2504
01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 1: So guys, so NBA, you know I'll never be able

2505
01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:40,360
Speaker 1: to be on.

2506
01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:44,080
Speaker 2: The Countdown show with those guys, those gambles. Really, it's unbelievable.

2507
01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:48,520
Speaker 6: You know what. Then I blame that to you. But anyways,

2508
01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 6: so the NB NBA player, NBA players are resting, not playing.

2509
01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 6: So NBA and their fans are furious. Who do you

2510
01:55:57,720 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 6: blame Andy.

2511
01:55:59,520 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 2: To come in?

2512
01:56:00,520 --> 01:56:01,600
Speaker 3: He lets him get away with it.

2513
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:04,240
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan will stay out two wee hours of the

2514
01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 2: night at gambling casinos, smoke cigars and still play. It's unbelievable, really,

2515
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:11,920
Speaker 2: and these guys won't play. I mean, I don't blame

2516
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 2: the coaches really, because you want to rust your guys

2517
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:15,800
Speaker 2: for the playoffs and as long as you're not being

2518
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 2: punished by it day. What the hey, what the hey,

2519
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 2: come on, come on, commissioner, get something done over here.

2520
01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:22,440
Speaker 3: It's embarrassing.

2521
01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:25,560
Speaker 2: It's embarrassing not for the game itself, it's embarrassing for

2522
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:27,640
Speaker 2: the people that are paying for tickets and want to

2523
01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:30,000
Speaker 2: see their star players play and they're on the bench.

2524
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 4: Yeah it's hard.

2525
01:56:33,040 --> 01:56:35,640
Speaker 5: I mean, look, I'll blame the players in terms of

2526
01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:38,360
Speaker 5: like the players sitting down in those things, but I

2527
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:40,160
Speaker 5: don't think everyone can have it both ways. Do you

2528
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 5: want to see your stars in the regular season, you

2529
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:43,080
Speaker 5: want to see him in the postseason. If you see

2530
01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 5: him in the regular season, they get hurt and you

2531
01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 5: can't see him in the postseason.

2532
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just saying, you got your ticket and

2533
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 4: you got your money's worth, but you may not win

2534
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:51,280
Speaker 4: a title. You know.

2535
01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 3: That's a great point. But you know what, they'll never

2536
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 3: do this.

2537
01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:56,360
Speaker 2: Maybe the regular season is too long, and maybe maybe

2538
01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:58,440
Speaker 2: the playoffs are too Maybe too many teams get into

2539
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:01,760
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Playoffs are or a joke. Really they play

2540
01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 2: just to get into the playoffs. The playoffs. Maybe too

2541
01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:05,879
Speaker 2: many teams are invited to the playoffs.

2542
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe, Well I got another one for you guys.

2543
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:13,640
Speaker 6: So no real upsets in the NCAA tournament thus far,

2544
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:21,400
Speaker 6: minus Andy Furman's last place in the bracket. But that aside,

2545
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 6: who do you blame Bucky?

2546
01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 5: I blame Andy, I believe, and everybody's bracket Andy's to

2547
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:36,520
Speaker 5: blame picked the wrong the wrong sway.

2548
01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:37,880
Speaker 4: He put bad mojo on the tournament.

2549
01:57:39,160 --> 01:57:41,880
Speaker 2: I wish they were upsets because I'd be sitting pretty

2550
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 2: right now. I'm not looking up at everybody, which I

2551
01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:46,440
Speaker 2: am in the basement, but I will say this. You know,

2552
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 2: I'm not blaming people for this. I think that no

2553
01:57:49,480 --> 01:57:52,040
Speaker 2: upsets because right now, and I think Bucky mentioned this

2554
01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:55,040
Speaker 2: early on. You know, the landscape of college basketball is

2555
01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 2: somewhat even right now.

2556
01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:56,800
Speaker 3: Think about that.

2557
01:57:56,880 --> 01:57:58,960
Speaker 2: I mean with nil, and you know, you could be

2558
01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:01,800
Speaker 2: rebuild it team with one year. Look at University of

2559
01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:04,560
Speaker 2: Michigan eight and twenty four a year ago. Look where

2560
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:05,120
Speaker 2: they are now.

2561
01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:06,040
Speaker 3: I get it.

2562
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:07,560
Speaker 2: The coach has a lot to do with that, but

2563
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:10,200
Speaker 2: still at all NIL has a lot to do with

2564
01:58:10,280 --> 01:58:12,240
Speaker 2: it as well. You could change your roster overnight.

2565
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:17,520
Speaker 6: All right, Well, we're gonna stay on this. So why

2566
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 6: why is March Madness more popular than MLB's opening Day?

2567
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:24,040
Speaker 3: Who do you blame?

2568
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 1: Andy?

2569
01:58:25,040 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, more people probably know about March

2570
01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:29,760
Speaker 2: Madness the Major League Baseball opening day. I forgot that

2571
01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:32,360
Speaker 2: Dodgers were playing at six am Eastern the other day

2572
01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 2: when they were playing in Tokyo. But there's something to

2573
01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:38,880
Speaker 2: be said about one and done games one and done.

2574
01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:42,440
Speaker 2: I mean when Baseball has their one game playoffs, it's tremendous.

2575
01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:45,480
Speaker 3: People love it. People love one and done.

2576
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:48,680
Speaker 2: That's the key. Baseball doesn't have that opening Day. It's

2577
01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 2: a big deal, you know, no big whoop about it.

2578
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:53,560
Speaker 2: You know they're playing the same team for weekend series.

2579
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:55,600
Speaker 2: Let me give you one little item, which is kind

2580
01:58:55,640 --> 01:59:01,000
Speaker 2: of cute. Most professional sports teams have big time tick

2581
01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 2: or tape parades after they win championships.

2582
01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:05,000
Speaker 3: Not in Cincinnati.

2583
01:59:05,480 --> 01:59:08,440
Speaker 2: This Thursday's opening Day in Cincinnati, and they have the

2584
01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:12,520
Speaker 2: country's largest opening day parade ever, maybe the only team

2585
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:14,800
Speaker 2: that has an opening day parade. They got the parade

2586
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:17,800
Speaker 2: before the first pitch this Thursday in Cincinnati.

2587
01:59:20,240 --> 01:59:24,360
Speaker 4: Wow, I mean, I lost my training thought. So who knows.

2588
01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:26,440
Speaker 4: I don't know who to belay like, I was so

2589
01:59:26,840 --> 01:59:29,080
Speaker 4: intent on listening to thing. I don't know. I'm sorry

2590
01:59:29,080 --> 01:59:31,560
Speaker 4: everything to say. That's what mean I got, I got,

2591
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:32,160
Speaker 4: I got one more.

2592
01:59:32,160 --> 01:59:33,200
Speaker 3: I don't want more for you guys.

2593
01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:38,120
Speaker 6: So these four teams got snubbed for the tournament and

2594
01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:41,480
Speaker 6: potentially from Andy having to choose them in the bracket.

2595
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:46,839
Speaker 6: It was Indiana the Boise State and a West Virginia.

2596
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:49,360
Speaker 6: Did I say four? I meant say three? Sorry, Indiana,

2597
01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:53,120
Speaker 6: Boise State in West Virginia. Who do you blame? Buckie

2598
01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:56,760
Speaker 6: Brookie Brooks, he got the final say West Virginia.

2599
01:59:56,840 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 5: I blame Look, I blame the coach. You already had

2600
01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:01,440
Speaker 5: a deal in place to go to Indiana. I blame him.

2601
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:03,600
Speaker 5: He messed it all up because he secretly didn't want

2602
02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 5: his team to go so he can sign his deal

2603
02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:06,600
Speaker 5: and take his son with it.

2604
02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:07,640
Speaker 4: I blamed it.

2605
02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:10,840
Speaker 2: When more games he'll go, that's about it. Oh all right,

2606
02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:13,960
Speaker 2: countdown next right here, Fox, stay with him